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Darien and Basil, Both photographs are iconic of the theatre they represent. It is not generaly known but both shots are recreations of the events they portray and taken days after they actually happened.
@BasilFawlty4444 Long training doesn't make it good training. Your our allies, and I know your training is one of the best in the world, our marines just hold a more iconic image for their valor and the ability to get almost anything done.
@TheDARIEN54321 Surely the SAS and Royal Marines also have the ability to succeed in their missions?
Sure, the marines are an iconic image, but so are the SAS. Their image (with the American marines) resounds in modern culture - never played Modern Warfare?
@BasilFawlty4444 I didn't say they didn't have the ability, I'm just pulling stuff from WWII. They were the main heroes of the troops in WWII. The thing is, we are both allies fighting a war together, and we both get stuff done.
@BasilFawlty4444 Okay, we have different opinions. My opinion is that our marines were the main heroes because they lost thousands apon thousands of men island hopping to Japan. That, and the picture of them on top of Mt. Sarabachu is probably the most iconic image of the war.
@BasilFawlty4444 Hmm. I can say I have been studying WWII for a very long time, and not only from my country's point of view, and I have to say i have only seen that image once or twice.
@TheDARIEN54321 Well the defeat of Japan, from the point of view of the British at least, is not anywhere near as important as the downfall of Hitler.
I know that the war in the Pacific is very big to America because it's what dragged them into the war, and in effect, it's what made them a superpower to replace Britain.
But to us, the war in Europe - which changed the entire worldview of the British - is of far more profound importance.
@BasilFawlty4444 I do think that the men of the Merchant Navy always get left out when it comes to credit.Lets face it, neither the Russians or the RAF would have been able to do much without the MN
@jp234ify I'm talking this moment, when it comes to history we had our fights and we did got saved by the Canadian, British and American, but that were common interests. Your Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carrier has the best radar systems in the world; Thales radar systems. That means that Carrier has become a 400 km rocket shield. Detects anything from swimmers to stealth missiles, stealth fighters like the Chinese stealth J20, our JSF and US F22. Thales Netherlands pimped your navy.
Best Royal Navy?? Remember Michiel de Ruyter? We took your Royal Charles right out of your freakin Thames. But don't worry.. our ships are the best in the world and we let you compete right now, because we Dutch invented anti-stealth technology that's on board of your modern ships right now. You guys won't get destroyed by some J20 or new Russian fighter coming up.
@marks95911 Did you actually read my post?(Youtube wont let me post links but if you search "list of active royal navy ships" on wikipedia you will find we do have a carrier+more ships than19) do have a bloody carrier!. The cold war is over and with no immediate sophisticated threats,if we launched many vessels most would see negligible combat service till they were decommissioned. If this was 1935 and our navy was in this state,I would understand your worries fully. fortunately they are not.
@SuperAncientmariner Well strictly speaking, the Flying Fish is in Carbrooke. And about the RN and the USN, the difference is so great in size that any small difference in training quality is negligible.
@Katsumoto0456 Ah, it's still there then. Is it still the dive it used to be?(only just in Carbrook)
As for the two navies, it's not what you've got but how you use it. Todays USN, although highly proffesional and well trained is somewhat over-rated, and the RN is very under-rated. As I said, I've worked with Both and was with FOST training both. I have no reason to change my opinion. Your opinion is just that , as is mine. It all depends how you look at it.
@Katsumoto0456 the rn and the us navy is not even close irealise that ancient mariner wants to be proud but today the royal navy only has 19 ships left and no carriers .the best navy is the one with the best capabilitys .the us navy today has so many different options that the rn can only dream of.today really the only thing the rn could do in a major conflict would be offer anti air from the type 45 (altough thats not fully working)and they have good mine detection and a few subs
@marks95911 I believe we still have a active carrier (WITH NO PLANES THROUGH). with 2 on order, although they have uncertain futures. I think the navy we got is sufficient for our needs. on another note I hear the USN is on the route for some cuts.
@Katsumoto0456 im glad you think its sufficent that you dont have carrier capability and that you have to rely on other countrys .if you were to ask british admirals they would tell you alot different story than you .the usn is not in line for any cuts at the moment but in my opinion they should .we really have no need for so many carriers
@Katsumoto0456 also im glad you can look into your crystal ball and tell what threats are coming in five years .i dunno about you but i think history says always error on the side of caution .if the us navy cuts some ships in the future they can easily absorb it .they have right now launched and preparing to launch 12 amphibious landing ships along with all the helicopters .a bit of over kill i think but they have a massive budget for now
@marks95911 Its probable to believe there will be no real threat to the realm which would require a substantial navy force to fend off. Look at UK's geographic location in relation to its allies and its potential enemies, do we really need a large navy?
@Katsumoto0456 lol that means that u only consider the rn a defensive force .ofcourse you need a large navy ,your an island .you dont have an intercontinental bomber anymore .there are many threats and emerging threats .if korea goes to war or iran how are u going to land troops unless theres a friendly nieghbour to let u land planes .thats why ur building 2 carriers (who knows whatll happen with them )
@marks95911 In fact re-reading it, thats a mighty presumptuous statement to make. "if Korea or Iran goes to war, how are we going to land our troops" If either of those two went to war, you can bet the US would be/get involved, and being as all I read from US contributors( most of whom hav'nt any experience) is how crap our troops are, I,m surprised you presume we would be involved.
@SuperAncientmariner i never said uk troops were crap infact i know they are far from it
the korea or iran comment was a hypothetical to emphasise a point that without aircover you cannot do a marine landing .nobody can predict the future and wars flare up .this is one of the reason s the british admiralty fought hard to keep the harrier capability as they know it severly cuts down on there options .a incontinental bomber as you well know gives a country almost imediate strike options
@marks95911 I did'nt say that you said of infered it, I was just stating an observation. Regarding bombing capability, as long as we still have SLBMs we don't need bombers. If we loose the SLBMs then we are in the shit.
@SuperAncientmariner well while slbms have great advantages as you know they have a few disadvantages over strike aircraft such as the b-2 or b1b or the latest incarnation of the b-52 for that matter .a sub has to be moved to within range which as you know takes alot more time than flying somewere .in all trident d5 missiles were updated with new systems ,i believe the missiles are leased from the usa with uk warheads which are very similar .but i believe u only have around 50 of them
@SuperAncientmariner but a slbm cannot offer air support to troops .it can only take out targets
do you know that in the 2nd gulf war for the first few months the uk had not one surveillance aircraft or uav .i think it was cos the nimrod had been grounded .the us ended up giving them uavs to use .i dunno why but the mod was very slow to give the troops even basics like ammunition and plates for vests.then they were so slow to give the troops mraps and made those poor men die in snatch
@marks95911 that's wierd, More Americans died per 10,000 deployed than British in the invasion of Iraq 2003(2nd gulf war). doing some simple maths and using data from Wikipedia. I worked out that for the US, 9.4 per 10K troops deployed were fatalities while for the UK it was 7.3 per 10K troops deployed. therefore I hastily don't believe the whole "mod was slow to give ammo and body army to troops" is true.
@Katsumoto0456 lol well firstly it was your news sources and military website that reported on the lack of survielence equipment lack of plates for vests and men being sent out without ammo .it was in the gaurdian,bbc,sky etc.the snatch debacle is well publisised and it is a well known fact that the mod ordered mraps (very late) and then left them sitting in wearhouses in the usa waiting to be shipped .then ontop of that they didnt send enough helicopters and YOUR generals were screaming
@SuperAncientmariner the uk also bought around 60 of the latest tomahawk cruise missile (block 4) which can be launched by sub .but still you get my point a longe range bomber gives commanders more options as was shown by the vulcan 30 years ago .
@Katsumoto0456 now onto your next point .i believe the uk only had one city and surounding areas while the usa took on the whole of the country and took part in some intense battles .if you were to really look at what happened in basra u would see they went in expecting a n ireland style action ,which for a while it was but then the shit hit the fan and the british withdrew and then were defeated .so its pretty hard to kill troops while there held up in there base and not going out now isnt it
@marks95911 A Vulcan could not have given ground support.
As for Basra, since handover to Iraq inDec 07, the purpose of British forces has been overwatch in Southern Iraq and assisting Iraqi security forces. This was their task set by governments, (with the knowledge of US) Given that, why do US armchair generals knock UK troops. I notice the Americans are yowling because the Brits are leaving. Thats me done.
@SuperAncientmariner im not knocking uk troops at all thats what you do to us troops .as for basra it was a defeat ,not really the troops fault .more the uk goverment got cold feet when it wasnt going well .the only info i get about basra is from british generals and embassy staff as they werre the ones there on the ground .
theres alot of idiots who say "my mate dave was there and he said the uk won so fuck off ".well thats not what happened .the uk has not been there really for 3 years
@marks95911 How was it a defeat?, we were the protecting force when the iraqi forces were building up and slowly having more responibility for their own safety till the point they could govern and protect Basra their-selves. I don't hear in the news the insecurity in Basra now? so our counter insurgency worked. If you want to look up a defeat I suggest searching the Vietnam war on Wikipedia.
@Katsumoto0456 well i tell u what im going to send you a bbc documentry aired 1 month ago about the timeline of events in iraq and interviews with the british commanding officers on the ground in basra
vietnam was 40 years ago, basra was 3 BBC SECRET IRAQ 2 parts 4,5,6 are all the british part on youtube
@marks95911 So you don't actually get it from Generals and Embassy staff, just the controlled stuff that Higher beings say you can have. Not the whole picture..
Like the rest of the worlds media, the Beeb does'nt always get things totaly right.
Carefull how you word things, misunderstandings can happen.
@SuperAncientmariner ahhhh ok well if something was inncorrect in there ,or the words of general were taken out of context then let me know which ones exactly were wrong and ill take a look .if its wrong then lets contact the director !!!
i watched the interviews and i see that the general in charge in basra is now one of the highest british officers in the land .
@marks95911 Just looked at it again,and it seems to be concentrating on US mistakes as much as anything.. It is only the opinion of Keane and Manson that it was a defeat. We had done the job required in the 3 years we were there, and the US was surging while we ,on political grounds ,were reducing. It was'nt our greatest move I'll grant you, but it was the best play given the circumstances.
We had taken, and held, South Iraq until handover to the Iraqis.
@marks95911 ..You seem to overlook the fact that we were greatly overstretched (not given a lot of coverage in "the Awakening) and why did more troops US troops get sent in, because you were close to losing it.
Basra was being handed over before any "deals" were struck. And you cannot hold British troops accountable for actions taken after they left.
Put it this way. You withdrew from Vietnam under exactly the same circumstances. (Political expediency) ....
@SuperAncientmariner and yes we withdrew from vietnam under the same circumstances as you did in basra .as such this was your vietnam ,which was my point all the way along this conversation
@marks95911 .My comparison was if Basra was a defeat, so was Vietnam. There is a difference between Basra and Vietnam in that US was forced out (Search N.Viet. conditions of signing Paris accord). In Basra we were pulling out anyway having obtained enough stability to hand over to Iraq authorities, which is what was happening when the insurgants started up again, fighting for power of a vacated town. Anyway, the point is we are not going to agree on a moot subject so I'll agree to differ.
@SuperAncientmariner it was on a different video that i mentioned vietnam i appologise.deputy commading officer general fry says qauite clearly thye americans decided they were going to win ,where as we (british decided we were going to leave .it also clearly state the 7000 british troops lost control of the city .it was a forced withdrawl made not to look like one and if you wernt looking at it through british patriotic eyes then you would agree but you cant so the end
@marks95911 I think it should be infered that the term "lost control" should be viewed as being told by our polititians to hand it over , rather than loosing to insurgents. But as you say, depends how you look at it and we won't agree so let us agree to differ and move on.
@marks95911 ...yet no American will admit to it being defeat, That was a whole war you walked from, we are talking a town that was being handed over anyway. A town that was in an area that had stability. It was a withdrawal, having completed what we were sent to do.
@SuperAncientmariner lol i think we watched 2 different programmes or one of us is wearing some rose tinted glasses.
no american will admit to it being a defeat cos we won our part and then your part (which was the whole country by the way v not just one city that u had ).you left and we were forced to come and retake basra with the iraqis ,all of which while we had our own shit to deal with .
@marks95911 WOH! when I said No American admits etc I was refering to Vietnam. If your programme Secret Iraq 2 , "The Awakening "then it was the same programme. I seem to recall that our part of the country was the south. I also recall that ,when the descision to pull out was taken, the South and Basra had harmony and stability (which were the long term aims). The "Awakening" started after we had started to remove troops.....
@SuperAncientmariner lol also you said a town that had stability ,are you being serious .did you not watch the same programme .yes you were overstretched and that was youtr governments fault not ours .i just wait to see future wars as now you have been cut back even more .the estimates are that for a sustained period the uk can only provide 7000 troops now and 20,000 for a short period
@SuperAncientmariner 19 is the number of capital ships according to janes and defence industry daily .but i believe thats before the cuts so it might be less now
@marks95911 Think yourself lucky. They never manage to fully put over what combat situations are like when training. Niether do documentary makers for that matter.
Hello chaps, I have returned, sorry for the absence, Looking forward to a good debate. Talking of which, I see the great mass-debater Quackers is still providing amusement to the masses. To answer a point, he talks to himself in order to get someone to agree with him.
first with the RMC being better than US Marines and now the royal navy is the best in the world ???your arrogance is very laughable brits HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
@marks95911 why waste money on things you don't need? Hmmm, Q:- How many Supercarriers in the USN at present? How many other countries have these? Given the answers to those questions, why do you need to spend how many billions more on a further class of them? You don't need them. Just think what else you could do with all that money..
We still have our dear little carriers, ....nothing to use on them thanks to politicians, but we still have two of them
@yandykun RMC are better that USMC in the sense that are trained better. But in the sense of size your marine corps is as big as our entire military. But the fact you have marines is because you saw what we the British had done. Its hardly arrogance either we have a very proud naval history but no one in there right mind would say that US military is not the best hands down overall. Its just you guys are not the best trained. RMC 32 week training course is longest infantry course in the world
@mattyreynolds1990 the 13 weeks of USMC training is just the first phase. after that they go to infantry school. who the hell told u that longer means better ?i doesnt matter if USMC saw what u had done because it doesnt change the fact that their long rifles shook your army.get this straight: US Marines will always be the baddest motherfuckers on the planet. it looks that your RMC ads are doing a good job..........
@yandykun Awhile ago, a series of exercises were held pitting Marines and various other specialised troops of many countries, (inc US marines, RM and SAS) The benchmark troops were the "specials"of the French Foreign legion. Only 2 forces beat the benchmark. Royal Marines and SAS. (and if you know your subject, you will know the standard of the the Foreign Legion)
@SuperAncientmariner lol you have a selective or illinformed memory .the british were badly defeated and sent in full retreat in basra .watch on youtube "bbc secret iraq 2 parts 4 5 6" are all about basra it aired in oct 2010 on bbc 2 i believe .anyway get back to me with another take the piss answer about the usa after youve watched it
@marks95911 I believe we held on to Basra long enough to hand it over to Iraqi security forces and US forces
So if anyone questions the effectivness of the US military in reply to denegration of ones own military , that is taking the piss is it. Yes we suffered at Basra but we held it for 6 years. That is not a defeat.
And your "specials"....went to rescue a hostage. SAS advised . Advice ignored in favour of the American way. Result, they killed the person they were supposed to rescue!
@SuperAncientmariner ahhh i see you dont like to watch the truth you would rather just spout what you believe to be true ,it must help you sleep better at night
@SuperAncientmariner ohhh so if its something you dont agree with then its properghanda .lmao i thought that might be your answer .well if u were to bother to watch you would szee the whole programme is one of the best on iraq ive seen
@marks95911 Re;- the reef, I had to write something whilst awaiting your return.Where are my insults?
We were forced to leave a town, US forced to leave Vietnam, So you only know from what you read. I was career navy, inc. Gulf service. Believe me, that doc told a simplified version. You read and believe what you wish, but take it with a pinch of salt
Anyway, before we get nasty, shall we agree to differ.
@SuperAncientmariner your insults were about the failure of us marines etc and just because i wasnt able to join the military doesnt discount my opinion .yes i read ,thats how people aquire knowledge .
the documentry was the most in depth thing ive seen on iraq acctually and im still waiting for what part of it was wrong so i can research the issue .yes us forces were forced to leave 40 years ago ,so in essence this was ur vietnam .
@marks95911 If you scroll back far enough (a week ago) and read the remarks of yandykun. It is to those remarks that I made factual comment, no insults, just a comment to which you yourself put the argument stating differences between commandoes and infantry. As you also have said,,,no insult only fact.
If you wish to equate one town with a war, ...your opinion as you say..
@SuperAncientmariner well lets put it this way the uk was in a war and you lost in your part of the war and us forces had to come in and clean up the mess an finish the job .so yes it was a war and far less in intensity than vietnam .you will also note that in vietnam there were large numbers of conscripts as opposed to to a fully profesional army .anyway im not into insulting the british military they are a fine force
@marks95911 It will no doubt amuse you to know that I have not been out long enough to be allowed to give public comment on things.that have been o/kd from higher sources. Just take my word, it was not as simple or straight forward as publicly shown.
@SuperAncientmariner the british army lost control of the city as the mahdi army took over and the british made a deal not to come out of there base .they were then forced to leave if that is not defeat then i dont know what is and the bbc documentry explains the whole chain of events ........ill say again before you wanna take the piss over small oiperations that went wrong look no further than your own debacle BBC SECRET IRAQ 2 PARTS 4 5 6 shows the full story
@yandykun What do you think they are doing for 32 weeks having a rest a couple of days a week? 32 weeks of hard hard work training to be a near elite unit. I am not saying USMC are bad they are fucking tough mother fuckers. But I am proud of our RMC who the facts show go through the longest and hardest basic infantry training in the world. But USMC have 200,000 men our marines dont even have 10,000.
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@FitePlayer Your wit is spot on Fite. I agree, the British military is a laughing stalk. Barely even on open water navy anymore. I also agree with what you said about this "warrior" character. Straight up dude, he is a kiddy fiddler. Ignore his emails. Thanks for your kind words about my brother. The Brit that murdered him tried to insult the arresting officers with anti-American insults. I hope they give him the death penalty.
@HRMacQuacken You're a fucking asshole. Even though I don't entirely know what you're talking about, you're clearly insulting the British navy. We don't comment on the marines videos just because they're American. You're so ignorant and should look over what you have posted, it's people like you who give your country a bad name.
Everything I posted is true. The British navy is more of Channel navy today, unlike the mighty US blue water navy. Also, I posted the truth about that sexual deviant QABWARRIOR. He was on another video talking about how he puts on puppet shows in bible school to get closer to kids. I suspect he is a pedo.
@HRMacQuacken You are a sad troll. Just because your family does not love you does not mean you should spend your life on our military videos. Get a life. Get some friends. Get laid.
@DEFiengold Dude, just stop replying to his emails. OABWARRIOR is a pedo. As long as he thinks you are a 10 year old boy, he is going to keep trying to kiddy fiddle you. He is sick. Just ignore his emails or report him to YouTube.
@deltondawn I don't know the weirdo personally. All I know is that this Canadian who calls himself "warrior" is sick. I am not going to lie to you. I don't like Britain and I loath the British, but even the British don't deserve to have their children molested. Every one should stand up against this kind of evil.
@HRMacQuacken you are 1 Loser man! look at what you're writing you shamed american idiot, is that the best you have got? Make up storys in you're head. boy you are 1 sad american low life, 2 sit there & talk about you're dead brother on UTUBE, & SAY BEFORE HE DIED, MADE YOU PROMISE THAT YOU WOULD LET BRITISH PEOPLE KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING IN AMERICA????? LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!! Why are you talking 2 yourself?
@WMVMadman7 I don't pretend to be knowledgeable. I AM KNOWLEDGEABLE. The US has been far stronger than Europe since 1945. Heck, if we didn't rebuilt you after WW2, you would have gone commy. Look at France, they are about to have a civil war because they have to raise the retirement age by 2 years. Pathetic. As for this warrior freak, just ignore him. He is a confirmed pedophile trolling YouTube for young boys . Sick bastard.
@HRMacQuacken What,!!! waiting for you to say something inteligent is like putting a candle in the window for Jimmy Hoffa. You come over with all the charm of a dead mouse in a loaf of bread and give the impression of being the culmination of many years of genetic mishaps. I bet if someone told you it was chilly outside, you'd get a bowl and spoon.
Right before my brother died, he made me promise that I would go on YouTube and let everyone know what British citizens are doing in the US. They are causing deadly accidents because they watch soccer on TV, get drunk, and then drive their poorly designed Jaguars, Land Rovers, and Range Rovers. Also, their cars are breaking down a lot causing traffic jams. Horrible country. Horrible murdering people.
@SuperAncientmariner Funny how his imaginary brother that died is only mentioned on this one video - out of the dozens of others that he trolls daily. The same video where you posted your loss.
Also note that he's up to three imaginary users he's talking to about me. He has completely fallen off the edge. Quackers has quacked!
@BrianZebraX I stand by my comments. This warrior character is a perv. He trolls YouTube looking to satisfy his sick pedo fantasies. You don't have to take my word for it. Send him an email and tell him you are a 10 year old boy interested in the Canadian military and read the filth he sends you in the reply.
HRMacQuacken is the victim of a Sexual Assault. Consequently he has developed PTSD and vents his emotions in an uncontrollable way by trying to hurt and insult everyone around him. He has become the single worst Youtube Troll since his last account was suspended (MrJJackYT)
He has hate posts on over 25 different British Videos and has a personal vendetta against me because I won't stand for his unacceptable behaviour.
BLOCK USER and ignore his hate until his account gets suspended soon.
@JayCee I agree with. No need to argue, "warrior" is definitely a pervert. I believe him to be a sexual deviant. He was sending me emails asking me if I am "10 years old or younger" and that he "has a lot to teach me". After I reported him, he started harrassing me. Be careful around this person. He is probably a kiddy fiddler.
@HRMacQuacken AKA MRJackYT You need medical help, all you do is insult people shamed american freak. you are 1 low life who sit here 24 hours a day 7 days a week. Look at the way everybody feels sorry for you.
I also confirm that no Anti-American comments were made. HRMacQuackers made it a point to use the pain of SuperAncientmariners' loss to hurt and harrass him. HATE SPEECH it's called.
HRMacQuacken is spiralling completely out of control.
If anyone reading this knows him in real life call the Police and have him sent for mental evaluation.
Quakers got annoyed because I said the driver of the car that killed my brother and nephew was driven by an American(which he was) under the influence of drugs and booze(which he was), and that he died 2 days later in hospital(which he did. and that some people would say thats justice. Don't forget Quakers that anyone can track back and see it. No anti American comments were made. I leave it to the world to judge.
Attention Everyone, you will notice a jibbering half-wit called MacQuackers trying to fool you into thinking he is intelligent. Don't be fooled.
George Washington was indeed born in Virginia which as Quackers says makes him a Virginian, at a time when Virginia was still a Briish colony, which would make him British.
You believe him to be a PeAdophile( not Pedo)..you also believe you are intelligent and have some valid points to make....easily fooled ar'nt you.
You may have noticed a very sad, sick individual named SuperAncientmariner. Recently, his brother died. Now, at the risk of sounding insensitive, I must point out that this sick bastard used his brother's death to make cheap anti-American comments here on YouTube trying to suggest that his brother was murdered by an American...well you get the point. This is a sick individual who shames his country and disgraces his brother's memory. You should pity him.
You may noticed a user calling himself warrior trying to shadow my posts. I believe him to be a pedophile. He has stated many times that he has "4 children". You might want to report his YouTube behavior. Pedophile behavior is illegal in the states and I am sure it is illegal in your countries as well. Help me make YouTube a safer place for our children.
You may noticed a user calling himself warrior trying to shadow my posts. I believe him to be a pedophile. He has stated many times that he has "4 children". You might want to report his YouTube behavior. Pedophile behavior is illegal in the states and I am sure it is illegal in your countries as well. Help me make YouTube a safer place for our children.
I said HATERS can go to hell. Do you really think Youtube disagrees?
Oh look my "Account Is In Good Standing" still.
Stop trolling, HATING and being a nuisance. Get some therapy. Go do something useful with your life like take REAL History Lessons or put a uniform on and EARN all the things you brag about.
And above all remember that being a good American doesn't mean youhave to HATE everyone else.
Your country still has SOME friends but you hate them too. WHY?!?
The Royal Navy was pretty good over a hundred years ago. You guys got totally beaten by the French though in the American Revolution. And today, your Navy is extremely small compa
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evsupp2011 2 days ago
Darien and Basil, Both photographs are iconic of the theatre they represent. It is not generaly known but both shots are recreations of the events they portray and taken days after they actually happened.
TheGreatGollum 1 month ago
Uh, no. I believe the best navy in the world honor belongs to the U.S.
TheDARIEN54321 2 months ago
@TheDARIEN54321 All the British armed services are trained to a better standard than the American ones.
BasilFawlty4444 2 months ago
@BasilFawlty4444 Says who? The American Marines are an iconic image around the world.
TheDARIEN54321 2 months ago
@TheDARIEN54321 Sure US marines are well trained.
But just google which country trains their troops to the best standard.
BasilFawlty4444 2 months ago
@TheDARIEN54321 For instance, the Royal Marines have the longest basic training course in the world.
BasilFawlty4444 2 months ago
@BasilFawlty4444 Long training doesn't make it good training. Your our allies, and I know your training is one of the best in the world, our marines just hold a more iconic image for their valor and the ability to get almost anything done.
TheDARIEN54321 2 months ago
@TheDARIEN54321 Surely the SAS and Royal Marines also have the ability to succeed in their missions?
Sure, the marines are an iconic image, but so are the SAS. Their image (with the American marines) resounds in modern culture - never played Modern Warfare?
BasilFawlty4444 2 months ago
@BasilFawlty4444 I didn't say they didn't have the ability, I'm just pulling stuff from WWII. They were the main heroes of the troops in WWII. The thing is, we are both allies fighting a war together, and we both get stuff done.
TheDARIEN54321 2 months ago
@TheDARIEN54321 I think the RAF in the summer of 1940 are the 'main' heroes of WWII.
That and the Soviets at Stalingrad.
BasilFawlty4444 2 months ago
@BasilFawlty4444 Okay, we have different opinions. My opinion is that our marines were the main heroes because they lost thousands apon thousands of men island hopping to Japan. That, and the picture of them on top of Mt. Sarabachu is probably the most iconic image of the war.
TheDARIEN54321 2 months ago
@TheDARIEN54321
Isn't the photo of the Red Army raising their flag over the Reichstag the most iconic image of the war?
BasilFawlty4444 2 months ago
@BasilFawlty4444 Hmm. I can say I have been studying WWII for a very long time, and not only from my country's point of view, and I have to say i have only seen that image once or twice.
TheDARIEN54321 2 months ago
@TheDARIEN54321 Well the defeat of Japan, from the point of view of the British at least, is not anywhere near as important as the downfall of Hitler.
I know that the war in the Pacific is very big to America because it's what dragged them into the war, and in effect, it's what made them a superpower to replace Britain.
But to us, the war in Europe - which changed the entire worldview of the British - is of far more profound importance.
BasilFawlty4444 2 months ago
@BasilFawlty4444 I do think that the men of the Merchant Navy always get left out when it comes to credit.Lets face it, neither the Russians or the RAF would have been able to do much without the MN
TheGreatGollum 1 month ago
Sorry, we have very little Navy and no standards anymore, its a bust flush, thanks to the people who run this country.
daveyohm122 5 months ago
@daveyohm122 yea, our navy is so small *rolls eyes* ( we are one of the three current "blue water" navies).
vonkeonig 5 months ago
senior service every time , god bless you all . spent me whole life in the royal navy now have two sons following me . i am so very proud .
dave2806 7 months ago
@jp234ify I'm talking this moment, when it comes to history we had our fights and we did got saved by the Canadian, British and American, but that were common interests. Your Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carrier has the best radar systems in the world; Thales radar systems. That means that Carrier has become a 400 km rocket shield. Detects anything from swimmers to stealth missiles, stealth fighters like the Chinese stealth J20, our JSF and US F22. Thales Netherlands pimped your navy.
Brulluhman 9 months ago
@Brulluhman Yep, Thales UK.
SuperAncientmariner 7 months ago
Thank you for your generosity you condescending ass-hole.
CNCRoadKill 9 months ago
Best Royal Navy?? Remember Michiel de Ruyter? We took your Royal Charles right out of your freakin Thames. But don't worry.. our ships are the best in the world and we let you compete right now, because we Dutch invented anti-stealth technology that's on board of your modern ships right now. You guys won't get destroyed by some J20 or new Russian fighter coming up.
Brulluhman 9 months ago
@marks95911
Our carrier does have aircraft.
rudeydudey05 1 year ago
@marks95911 Did you actually read my post?(Youtube wont let me post links but if you search "list of active royal navy ships" on wikipedia you will find we do have a carrier+more ships than19) do have a bloody carrier!. The cold war is over and with no immediate sophisticated threats,if we launched many vessels most would see negligible combat service till they were decommissioned. If this was 1935 and our navy was in this state,I would understand your worries fully. fortunately they are not.
Katsumoto0456 1 year ago
@Katsumoto0456 lol you do have a carrier .hmm should a carrier have aircraft .how can it be operational then .
you have 19 capital ships left ie destroyers ,frigates etc and it might be less than that now im not sure
marks95911 1 year ago
I really wish that they had saved HMS Vanguard from the breakers.
Marlever357 1 year ago
well if MR. Cameron would stop fucking around .....we might have.............
hiho59ish 1 year ago
We really don't have the best navy. As a British person its quite obviously that America got the best navy.
Katsumoto0456 1 year ago
@Katsumoto0456 depends on what you mean by best. Largest undoubtably.
Is that Watton Norfolk.. If so, Is the Flying Fish still there?
SuperAncientmariner 1 year ago
@SuperAncientmariner or maybe best means most powerful .that to me is what really counts at the end of the day
marks95911 1 year ago
@marks95911 I'm ex RN, I've served on secondment with the USN. I stick to my opinion.:o)
SuperAncientmariner 1 year ago
@SuperAncientmariner Well strictly speaking, the Flying Fish is in Carbrooke. And about the RN and the USN, the difference is so great in size that any small difference in training quality is negligible.
Katsumoto0456 1 year ago
@Katsumoto0456 Ah, it's still there then. Is it still the dive it used to be?(only just in Carbrook)
As for the two navies, it's not what you've got but how you use it. Todays USN, although highly proffesional and well trained is somewhat over-rated, and the RN is very under-rated. As I said, I've worked with Both and was with FOST training both. I have no reason to change my opinion. Your opinion is just that , as is mine. It all depends how you look at it.
SuperAncientmariner 1 year ago
@SuperAncientmariner Well its been re managed since i last went there. under the old management we called it the "public toilet".
Katsumoto0456 1 year ago
@Katsumoto0456 the rn and the us navy is not even close irealise that ancient mariner wants to be proud but today the royal navy only has 19 ships left and no carriers .the best navy is the one with the best capabilitys .the us navy today has so many different options that the rn can only dream of.today really the only thing the rn could do in a major conflict would be offer anti air from the type 45 (altough thats not fully working)and they have good mine detection and a few subs
marks95911 1 year ago
@marks95911 I believe we still have a active carrier (WITH NO PLANES THROUGH). with 2 on order, although they have uncertain futures. I think the navy we got is sufficient for our needs. on another note I hear the USN is on the route for some cuts.
Katsumoto0456 1 year ago
@Katsumoto0456 im glad you think its sufficent that you dont have carrier capability and that you have to rely on other countrys .if you were to ask british admirals they would tell you alot different story than you .the usn is not in line for any cuts at the moment but in my opinion they should .we really have no need for so many carriers
marks95911 1 year ago
@Katsumoto0456 also im glad you can look into your crystal ball and tell what threats are coming in five years .i dunno about you but i think history says always error on the side of caution .if the us navy cuts some ships in the future they can easily absorb it .they have right now launched and preparing to launch 12 amphibious landing ships along with all the helicopters .a bit of over kill i think but they have a massive budget for now
marks95911 1 year ago
@marks95911 Its probable to believe there will be no real threat to the realm which would require a substantial navy force to fend off. Look at UK's geographic location in relation to its allies and its potential enemies, do we really need a large navy?
Katsumoto0456 1 year ago
@Katsumoto0456 lol that means that u only consider the rn a defensive force .ofcourse you need a large navy ,your an island .you dont have an intercontinental bomber anymore .there are many threats and emerging threats .if korea goes to war or iran how are u going to land troops unless theres a friendly nieghbour to let u land planes .thats why ur building 2 carriers (who knows whatll happen with them )
marks95911 1 year ago
@marks95911 In fact re-reading it, thats a mighty presumptuous statement to make. "if Korea or Iran goes to war, how are we going to land our troops" If either of those two went to war, you can bet the US would be/get involved, and being as all I read from US contributors( most of whom hav'nt any experience) is how crap our troops are, I,m surprised you presume we would be involved.
Why do we need an intercontinental bomber?
SuperAncientmariner 1 year ago
@SuperAncientmariner i never said uk troops were crap infact i know they are far from it
the korea or iran comment was a hypothetical to emphasise a point that without aircover you cannot do a marine landing .nobody can predict the future and wars flare up .this is one of the reason s the british admiralty fought hard to keep the harrier capability as they know it severly cuts down on there options .a incontinental bomber as you well know gives a country almost imediate strike options
marks95911 1 year ago
@marks95911 I did'nt say that you said of infered it, I was just stating an observation. Regarding bombing capability, as long as we still have SLBMs we don't need bombers. If we loose the SLBMs then we are in the shit.
SuperAncientmariner 1 year ago
@SuperAncientmariner well while slbms have great advantages as you know they have a few disadvantages over strike aircraft such as the b-2 or b1b or the latest incarnation of the b-52 for that matter .a sub has to be moved to within range which as you know takes alot more time than flying somewere .in all trident d5 missiles were updated with new systems ,i believe the missiles are leased from the usa with uk warheads which are very similar .but i believe u only have around 50 of them
marks95911 1 year ago
@marks95911 oh yes, we have a "few more" :o)
Yes ,but given the ranges of modern delivery vehicles, the disadvantage of being positioned isn't as crucial as it was in my day.
Good plane the Vulcan. By accident of design, it was a stealthy aircraft, only that big fin gave a radar return.
SuperAncientmariner 1 year ago
@SuperAncientmariner but a slbm cannot offer air support to troops .it can only take out targets
do you know that in the 2nd gulf war for the first few months the uk had not one surveillance aircraft or uav .i think it was cos the nimrod had been grounded .the us ended up giving them uavs to use .i dunno why but the mod was very slow to give the troops even basics like ammunition and plates for vests.then they were so slow to give the troops mraps and made those poor men die in snatch
marks95911 1 year ago
@marks95911 that's wierd, More Americans died per 10,000 deployed than British in the invasion of Iraq 2003(2nd gulf war). doing some simple maths and using data from Wikipedia. I worked out that for the US, 9.4 per 10K troops deployed were fatalities while for the UK it was 7.3 per 10K troops deployed. therefore I hastily don't believe the whole "mod was slow to give ammo and body army to troops" is true.
Katsumoto0456 1 year ago
@Katsumoto0456 lol well firstly it was your news sources and military website that reported on the lack of survielence equipment lack of plates for vests and men being sent out without ammo .it was in the gaurdian,bbc,sky etc.the snatch debacle is well publisised and it is a well known fact that the mod ordered mraps (very late) and then left them sitting in wearhouses in the usa waiting to be shipped .then ontop of that they didnt send enough helicopters and YOUR generals were screaming
marks95911 1 year ago
@SuperAncientmariner the uk also bought around 60 of the latest tomahawk cruise missile (block 4) which can be launched by sub .but still you get my point a longe range bomber gives commanders more options as was shown by the vulcan 30 years ago .
marks95911 1 year ago
@Katsumoto0456 now onto your next point .i believe the uk only had one city and surounding areas while the usa took on the whole of the country and took part in some intense battles .if you were to really look at what happened in basra u would see they went in expecting a n ireland style action ,which for a while it was but then the shit hit the fan and the british withdrew and then were defeated .so its pretty hard to kill troops while there held up in there base and not going out now isnt it
marks95911 1 year ago
@marks95911 A Vulcan could not have given ground support.
As for Basra, since handover to Iraq inDec 07, the purpose of British forces has been overwatch in Southern Iraq and assisting Iraqi security forces. This was their task set by governments, (with the knowledge of US) Given that, why do US armchair generals knock UK troops. I notice the Americans are yowling because the Brits are leaving. Thats me done.
SuperAncientmariner 1 year ago
@SuperAncientmariner im not knocking uk troops at all thats what you do to us troops .as for basra it was a defeat ,not really the troops fault .more the uk goverment got cold feet when it wasnt going well .the only info i get about basra is from british generals and embassy staff as they werre the ones there on the ground .
theres alot of idiots who say "my mate dave was there and he said the uk won so fuck off ".well thats not what happened .the uk has not been there really for 3 years
marks95911 1 year ago
@marks95911 How was it a defeat?, we were the protecting force when the iraqi forces were building up and slowly having more responibility for their own safety till the point they could govern and protect Basra their-selves. I don't hear in the news the insecurity in Basra now? so our counter insurgency worked. If you want to look up a defeat I suggest searching the Vietnam war on Wikipedia.
Katsumoto0456 1 year ago
@Katsumoto0456 well i tell u what im going to send you a bbc documentry aired 1 month ago about the timeline of events in iraq and interviews with the british commanding officers on the ground in basra
vietnam was 40 years ago, basra was 3 BBC SECRET IRAQ 2 parts 4,5,6 are all the british part on youtube
marks95911 1 year ago
@marks95911 You move in good circles, getting it from Generals and Embassy staff....!!
SuperAncientmariner 1 year ago
@SuperAncientmariner yes i do !!!!! and so can you .its public knowledge
marks95911 1 year ago
@marks95911 So you don't actually get it from Generals and Embassy staff, just the controlled stuff that Higher beings say you can have. Not the whole picture..
Like the rest of the worlds media, the Beeb does'nt always get things totaly right.
Carefull how you word things, misunderstandings can happen.
SuperAncientmariner 1 year ago
@SuperAncientmariner ahhhh ok well if something was inncorrect in there ,or the words of general were taken out of context then let me know which ones exactly were wrong and ill take a look .if its wrong then lets contact the director !!!
i watched the interviews and i see that the general in charge in basra is now one of the highest british officers in the land .
marks95911 1 year ago
@marks95911 Just looked at it again,and it seems to be concentrating on US mistakes as much as anything.. It is only the opinion of Keane and Manson that it was a defeat. We had done the job required in the 3 years we were there, and the US was surging while we ,on political grounds ,were reducing. It was'nt our greatest move I'll grant you, but it was the best play given the circumstances.
We had taken, and held, South Iraq until handover to the Iraqis.
The general followed his orders.
SuperAncientmariner 1 year ago
@marks95911 ..You seem to overlook the fact that we were greatly overstretched (not given a lot of coverage in "the Awakening) and why did more troops US troops get sent in, because you were close to losing it.
Basra was being handed over before any "deals" were struck. And you cannot hold British troops accountable for actions taken after they left.
Put it this way. You withdrew from Vietnam under exactly the same circumstances. (Political expediency) ....
SuperAncientmariner 1 year ago
@SuperAncientmariner and yes we withdrew from vietnam under the same circumstances as you did in basra .as such this was your vietnam ,which was my point all the way along this conversation
marks95911 1 year ago
@marks95911 .My comparison was if Basra was a defeat, so was Vietnam. There is a difference between Basra and Vietnam in that US was forced out (Search N.Viet. conditions of signing Paris accord). In Basra we were pulling out anyway having obtained enough stability to hand over to Iraq authorities, which is what was happening when the insurgants started up again, fighting for power of a vacated town. Anyway, the point is we are not going to agree on a moot subject so I'll agree to differ.
SuperAncientmariner 1 year ago
@marks95911 I will just say that having gone back a while I cannot see where you mentioned Vietnam before I did.
Part of the definition of defeat is being forced from the field of combat. We were not forced we were withdrawing .
SuperAncientmariner 1 year ago
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marks95911 1 year ago
@SuperAncientmariner it was on a different video that i mentioned vietnam i appologise.deputy commading officer general fry says qauite clearly thye americans decided they were going to win ,where as we (british decided we were going to leave .it also clearly state the 7000 british troops lost control of the city .it was a forced withdrawl made not to look like one and if you wernt looking at it through british patriotic eyes then you would agree but you cant so the end
marks95911 1 year ago
@marks95911 I think it should be infered that the term "lost control" should be viewed as being told by our polititians to hand it over , rather than loosing to insurgents. But as you say, depends how you look at it and we won't agree so let us agree to differ and move on.
SuperAncientmariner 1 year ago
@SuperAncientmariner sorry for the spelling ,i had a couple !
marks95911 1 year ago
@marks95911 Just noticed that bit. No probs, I usually have a few shots before I come on these sites. It deadens the mind to some things. lol
SuperAncientmariner 1 year ago
@marks95911 ...yet no American will admit to it being defeat, That was a whole war you walked from, we are talking a town that was being handed over anyway. A town that was in an area that had stability. It was a withdrawal, having completed what we were sent to do.
SuperAncientmariner 1 year ago
@SuperAncientmariner lol i think we watched 2 different programmes or one of us is wearing some rose tinted glasses.
no american will admit to it being a defeat cos we won our part and then your part (which was the whole country by the way v not just one city that u had ).you left and we were forced to come and retake basra with the iraqis ,all of which while we had our own shit to deal with .
marks95911 1 year ago
@marks95911 WOH! when I said No American admits etc I was refering to Vietnam. If your programme Secret Iraq 2 , "The Awakening "then it was the same programme. I seem to recall that our part of the country was the south. I also recall that ,when the descision to pull out was taken, the South and Basra had harmony and stability (which were the long term aims). The "Awakening" started after we had started to remove troops.....
SuperAncientmariner 1 year ago
@SuperAncientmariner lol also you said a town that had stability ,are you being serious .did you not watch the same programme .yes you were overstretched and that was youtr governments fault not ours .i just wait to see future wars as now you have been cut back even more .the estimates are that for a sustained period the uk can only provide 7000 troops now and 20,000 for a short period
marks95911 1 year ago
@marks95911 I'd revise you're numbers if I were you. It's a few more than 19.Also look into cuts in the USN
SuperAncientmariner 1 year ago
@SuperAncientmariner 19 is the number of capital ships according to janes and defence industry daily .but i believe thats before the cuts so it might be less now
marks95911 1 year ago
@marks95911 Ah, thats different to "the RN only has 19 ships left" which is what I was commenting on. If Korea or Iran goes to war. With whom?
SuperAncientmariner 1 year ago
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marks95911 1 year ago
@marks95911 Think yourself lucky. They never manage to fully put over what combat situations are like when training. Niether do documentary makers for that matter.
Have a nice day!
SuperAncientmariner 1 year ago
@marks95911 Yeh, I know..neither. Touche.
SuperAncientmariner 1 year ago
Hello chaps, I have returned, sorry for the absence, Looking forward to a good debate. Talking of which, I see the great mass-debater Quackers is still providing amusement to the masses. To answer a point, he talks to himself in order to get someone to agree with him.
SuperAncientmariner 1 year ago
first with the RMC being better than US Marines and now the royal navy is the best in the world ???your arrogance is very laughable brits HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
yandykun 1 year ago
@yandykun Sorry
At the recent combat trials you Americans flopped pretty bad,
Looks like you need to up your training, As it was pretty embarrassing
Royal Navy serves it purpose fine, its more than capable of defending UK intrests, Britain doesnt overkill like the US
Why would we waste money on things we dont need?
Thats an American habit, a bad one
Its why you have kids dying in your country from dental problems,
No health service at all
So Sad : [
TheWiseOldLion 1 year ago
@TheWiseOldLion americans will always lose those stupid combat trials, but when shit comes in.................
yandykun 1 year ago
@TheWiseOldLion lol so your happy then you dont have carriers anymore ,i guess you dont need them according to you .
so stop with the bullshit of over kill and why waste money on stuff we dont need cos its pathetic at best
marks95911 1 year ago
@marks95911 why waste money on things you don't need? Hmmm, Q:- How many Supercarriers in the USN at present? How many other countries have these? Given the answers to those questions, why do you need to spend how many billions more on a further class of them? You don't need them. Just think what else you could do with all that money..
We still have our dear little carriers, ....nothing to use on them thanks to politicians, but we still have two of them
SuperAncientmariner 1 year ago
@yandykun RMC are better that USMC in the sense that are trained better. But in the sense of size your marine corps is as big as our entire military. But the fact you have marines is because you saw what we the British had done. Its hardly arrogance either we have a very proud naval history but no one in there right mind would say that US military is not the best hands down overall. Its just you guys are not the best trained. RMC 32 week training course is longest infantry course in the world
mattyreynolds1990 1 year ago
@mattyreynolds1990 the 13 weeks of USMC training is just the first phase. after that they go to infantry school. who the hell told u that longer means better ?i doesnt matter if USMC saw what u had done because it doesnt change the fact that their long rifles shook your army.get this straight: US Marines will always be the baddest motherfuckers on the planet. it looks that your RMC ads are doing a good job..........
yandykun 1 year ago
@yandykun Awhile ago, a series of exercises were held pitting Marines and various other specialised troops of many countries, (inc US marines, RM and SAS) The benchmark troops were the "specials"of the French Foreign legion. Only 2 forces beat the benchmark. Royal Marines and SAS. (and if you know your subject, you will know the standard of the the Foreign Legion)
SuperAncientmariner 1 year ago
@SuperAncientmariner you know bfull well the us marines are marine infantry not marine commandoes
marks95911 1 year ago
@marks95911 Oh, yes thats right forgive my slip. But even US seals failed.
SuperAncientmariner 1 year ago
@SuperAncientmariner yes and so did the british in iraq ,so its ok no problem
marks95911 1 year ago
@marks95911 Really,, ...I seem to recall that our aims were achieved, or are you going beck to the mesopotamian era?.
SuperAncientmariner 1 year ago
@SuperAncientmariner lol you have a selective or illinformed memory .the british were badly defeated and sent in full retreat in basra .watch on youtube "bbc secret iraq 2 parts 4 5 6" are all about basra it aired in oct 2010 on bbc 2 i believe .anyway get back to me with another take the piss answer about the usa after youve watched it
marks95911 1 year ago
@marks95911 I believe we held on to Basra long enough to hand it over to Iraqi security forces and US forces
So if anyone questions the effectivness of the US military in reply to denegration of ones own military , that is taking the piss is it. Yes we suffered at Basra but we held it for 6 years. That is not a defeat.
And your "specials"....went to rescue a hostage. SAS advised . Advice ignored in favour of the American way. Result, they killed the person they were supposed to rescue!
SuperAncientmariner 1 year ago
@SuperAncientmariner ahhh i see you dont like to watch the truth you would rather just spout what you believe to be true ,it must help you sleep better at night
marks95911 1 year ago
@marks95911 I take media reporting with a pinch of salt.
SuperAncientmariner 1 year ago
@SuperAncientmariner ohhh so if its something you dont agree with then its properghanda .lmao i thought that might be your answer .well if u were to bother to watch you would szee the whole programme is one of the best on iraq ive seen
marks95911 1 year ago
@marks95911 propagada. Who mentioned that. Media reporting is not propaganda (note spelling) I've seen the doc. and it is not strictly accurate.
So, being forced to leave constitutes a defeat, is that right?
Please be good enough to answer previous question.
SuperAncientmariner 1 year ago
@marks95911 Another question....if we were kicked out of Basra, how did we hand it over to US troops around March/April 2009?
SuperAncientmariner 1 year ago
@SuperAncientmariner yes and thank you for the spelling leason but i didnt know we were writing a book .
so what parts were inaccurate ?
yes being forced to leave is defeat as the programme shows and it is not me insulting british forces ,im simply stating facts .
you did not hand over to us troops in reality the iraqi army with the help of us troops had to go in and retake basra .
no ive never been in the military .my hobby is the defence industry .
marks95911 1 year ago
@marks95911 Re;- the reef, I had to write something whilst awaiting your return.Where are my insults?
We were forced to leave a town, US forced to leave Vietnam, So you only know from what you read. I was career navy, inc. Gulf service. Believe me, that doc told a simplified version. You read and believe what you wish, but take it with a pinch of salt
Anyway, before we get nasty, shall we agree to differ.
SuperAncientmariner 1 year ago
@SuperAncientmariner your insults were about the failure of us marines etc and just because i wasnt able to join the military doesnt discount my opinion .yes i read ,thats how people aquire knowledge .
the documentry was the most in depth thing ive seen on iraq acctually and im still waiting for what part of it was wrong so i can research the issue .yes us forces were forced to leave 40 years ago ,so in essence this was ur vietnam .
yes we can agree to disagree if u wish
marks95911 1 year ago
@marks95911 If you scroll back far enough (a week ago) and read the remarks of yandykun. It is to those remarks that I made factual comment, no insults, just a comment to which you yourself put the argument stating differences between commandoes and infantry. As you also have said,,,no insult only fact.
If you wish to equate one town with a war, ...your opinion as you say..
SuperAncientmariner 1 year ago
@SuperAncientmariner well lets put it this way the uk was in a war and you lost in your part of the war and us forces had to come in and clean up the mess an finish the job .so yes it was a war and far less in intensity than vietnam .you will also note that in vietnam there were large numbers of conscripts as opposed to to a fully profesional army .anyway im not into insulting the british military they are a fine force
marks95911 1 year ago
@marks95911 It will no doubt amuse you to know that I have not been out long enough to be allowed to give public comment on things.that have been o/kd from higher sources. Just take my word, it was not as simple or straight forward as publicly shown.
I must agree to differ
SuperAncientmariner 1 year ago
@SuperAncientmariner anyway i must go .i do not wish to disscuss military secrets !!!.
marks95911 1 year ago
@marks95911 Take care
SuperAncientmariner 1 year ago
@marks95911 just re-read things. No secrets involved as such .
SuperAncientmariner 1 year ago
@SuperAncientmariner so now you going to the enviroment .quite the leap
marks95911 1 year ago
@marks95911 Tell me ,is the Osbourne reef still shedding its tyres. That was a success was.nt it?
SuperAncientmariner 1 year ago
@SuperAncientmariner i presume so yes
marks95911 1 year ago
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marks95911 1 year ago
@marks95911 We can trade insults as much as you like. As long as someone is scathing about our troops, I will return the compliment.
Serious question, no bullshit....do you have military service history?
SuperAncientmariner 1 year ago
@SuperAncientmariner the british army lost control of the city as the mahdi army took over and the british made a deal not to come out of there base .they were then forced to leave if that is not defeat then i dont know what is and the bbc documentry explains the whole chain of events ........ill say again before you wanna take the piss over small oiperations that went wrong look no further than your own debacle BBC SECRET IRAQ 2 PARTS 4 5 6 shows the full story
marks95911 1 year ago
@SuperAncientmariner by the way you are the one spouting insults on here ,hence my comments
marks95911 1 year ago
@yandykun What do you think they are doing for 32 weeks having a rest a couple of days a week? 32 weeks of hard hard work training to be a near elite unit. I am not saying USMC are bad they are fucking tough mother fuckers. But I am proud of our RMC who the facts show go through the longest and hardest basic infantry training in the world. But USMC have 200,000 men our marines dont even have 10,000.
mattyreynolds1990 1 year ago
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OABW4RR10R 1 year ago
@FitePlayer Your wit is spot on Fite. I agree, the British military is a laughing stalk. Barely even on open water navy anymore. I also agree with what you said about this "warrior" character. Straight up dude, he is a kiddy fiddler. Ignore his emails. Thanks for your kind words about my brother. The Brit that murdered him tried to insult the arresting officers with anti-American insults. I hope they give him the death penalty.
HRMacQuacken 1 year ago
@HRMacQuacken You're a fucking asshole. Even though I don't entirely know what you're talking about, you're clearly insulting the British navy. We don't comment on the marines videos just because they're American. You're so ignorant and should look over what you have posted, it's people like you who give your country a bad name.
matthe3234 1 year ago
@matthe3234
Everything I posted is true. The British navy is more of Channel navy today, unlike the mighty US blue water navy. Also, I posted the truth about that sexual deviant QABWARRIOR. He was on another video talking about how he puts on puppet shows in bible school to get closer to kids. I suspect he is a pedo.
HRMacQuacken 1 year ago
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@HRMacQuacken You are a sad troll. Just because your family does not love you does not mean you should spend your life on our military videos. Get a life. Get some friends. Get laid.
mattyreynolds1990 1 year ago
@DEFiengold Dude, just stop replying to his emails. OABWARRIOR is a pedo. As long as he thinks you are a 10 year old boy, he is going to keep trying to kiddy fiddle you. He is sick. Just ignore his emails or report him to YouTube.
HRMacQuacken 1 year ago
@deltondawn I don't know the weirdo personally. All I know is that this Canadian who calls himself "warrior" is sick. I am not going to lie to you. I don't like Britain and I loath the British, but even the British don't deserve to have their children molested. Every one should stand up against this kind of evil.
HRMacQuacken 1 year ago
@HRMacQuacken Well, we love you too like a recurrant case of syphillus.
SuperAncientmariner 1 year ago
@SuperAncientmariner
Since you don't believe in God, does that mean your dead brother is just going to rot forever and is now forever lost to the world?
HRMacQuacken 1 year ago
@HRMacQuacken you are 1 Loser man! look at what you're writing you shamed american idiot, is that the best you have got? Make up storys in you're head. boy you are 1 sad american low life, 2 sit there & talk about you're dead brother on UTUBE, & SAY BEFORE HE DIED, MADE YOU PROMISE THAT YOU WOULD LET BRITISH PEOPLE KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING IN AMERICA????? LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!! Why are you talking 2 yourself?
BritishLad87 1 year ago
@SuperAncientmariner And he's still talking to himself LMAO!
OABW4RR10R 1 year ago
And another user that doesn't exist on YouTube...
Quacky has lost it talking to himself lol!
OABW4RR10R 1 year ago
@WMVMadman7 I don't pretend to be knowledgeable. I AM KNOWLEDGEABLE. The US has been far stronger than Europe since 1945. Heck, if we didn't rebuilt you after WW2, you would have gone commy. Look at France, they are about to have a civil war because they have to raise the retirement age by 2 years. Pathetic. As for this warrior freak, just ignore him. He is a confirmed pedophile trolling YouTube for young boys . Sick bastard.
HRMacQuacken 1 year ago
@HRMacQuacken What,!!! waiting for you to say something inteligent is like putting a candle in the window for Jimmy Hoffa. You come over with all the charm of a dead mouse in a loaf of bread and give the impression of being the culmination of many years of genetic mishaps. I bet if someone told you it was chilly outside, you'd get a bowl and spoon.
SuperAncientmariner 1 year ago
@SuperAncientmariner
Right before my brother died, he made me promise that I would go on YouTube and let everyone know what British citizens are doing in the US. They are causing deadly accidents because they watch soccer on TV, get drunk, and then drive their poorly designed Jaguars, Land Rovers, and Range Rovers. Also, their cars are breaking down a lot causing traffic jams. Horrible country. Horrible murdering people.
HRMacQuacken 1 year ago
@SuperAncientmariner Funny how his imaginary brother that died is only mentioned on this one video - out of the dozens of others that he trolls daily. The same video where you posted your loss.
Also note that he's up to three imaginary users he's talking to about me. He has completely fallen off the edge. Quackers has quacked!
OABW4RR10R 1 year ago
@OABW4RR10R Let him c.arry on. We have a saying over here, "give him enough rope and he'll hang himself" The more he writes, the more others will see.
It's funny though that Delton Dawn is a duck lake in Delton Wisconsin. (Ducks....quakers.......well I was amused ) lol
SuperAncientmariner 1 year ago
@SuperAncientmariner "Imagine that" LMAO!
Q U A C K !
OABW4RR10R 1 year ago
@SuperAncientmariner ROTFLMAO, your wit is spot on mariner,keep it coming mucker lol
jonboy1973 1 year ago
@BrianZebraX I stand by my comments. This warrior character is a perv. He trolls YouTube looking to satisfy his sick pedo fantasies. You don't have to take my word for it. Send him an email and tell him you are a 10 year old boy interested in the Canadian military and read the filth he sends you in the reply.
HRMacQuacken 1 year ago
@HRMacQuacken Yeah I'd like to see BrianZebraX send any kind of message including posting here.....
Oh wait there's no such user on Youtube because BrianZebraX only exists IN YOUR SICK LITTLE TWISTED MIND.
Damn you get more insane as each day passes.
How many MORE voices are in your head right now telling you to hate more?
HATE HATE HATE HATE. Copy and paste that because that's all any of us see from your posts you tiresome FREAKSHOW.
OABW4RR10R 1 year ago
HRMacQuacken is the victim of a Sexual Assault. Consequently he has developed PTSD and vents his emotions in an uncontrollable way by trying to hurt and insult everyone around him. He has become the single worst Youtube Troll since his last account was suspended (MrJJackYT)
He has hate posts on over 25 different British Videos and has a personal vendetta against me because I won't stand for his unacceptable behaviour.
BLOCK USER and ignore his hate until his account gets suspended soon.
OABW4RR10R 1 year ago
@JayCee I agree with. No need to argue, "warrior" is definitely a pervert. I believe him to be a sexual deviant. He was sending me emails asking me if I am "10 years old or younger" and that he "has a lot to teach me". After I reported him, he started harrassing me. Be careful around this person. He is probably a kiddy fiddler.
HRMacQuacken 1 year ago
@HRMacQuacken AKA MRJackYT You need medical help, all you do is insult people shamed american freak. you are 1 low life who sit here 24 hours a day 7 days a week. Look at the way everybody feels sorry for you.
BritishLad87 1 year ago
I also confirm that no Anti-American comments were made. HRMacQuackers made it a point to use the pain of SuperAncientmariners' loss to hurt and harrass him. HATE SPEECH it's called.
HRMacQuacken is spiralling completely out of control.
If anyone reading this knows him in real life call the Police and have him sent for mental evaluation.
OABW4RR10R 1 year ago
@OABW4RR10R Cheers warrior. Don't let him get to you, he has the inteligence of a bucket of rocks.
SuperAncientmariner 1 year ago
Quakers got annoyed because I said the driver of the car that killed my brother and nephew was driven by an American(which he was) under the influence of drugs and booze(which he was), and that he died 2 days later in hospital(which he did. and that some people would say thats justice. Don't forget Quakers that anyone can track back and see it. No anti American comments were made. I leave it to the world to judge.
SuperAncientmariner 1 year ago
Attention Everyone, you will notice a jibbering half-wit called MacQuackers trying to fool you into thinking he is intelligent. Don't be fooled.
George Washington was indeed born in Virginia which as Quackers says makes him a Virginian, at a time when Virginia was still a Briish colony, which would make him British.
You believe him to be a PeAdophile( not Pedo)..you also believe you are intelligent and have some valid points to make....easily fooled ar'nt you.
SuperAncientmariner 1 year ago
Attention Everyone:
You may have noticed a very sad, sick individual named SuperAncientmariner. Recently, his brother died. Now, at the risk of sounding insensitive, I must point out that this sick bastard used his brother's death to make cheap anti-American comments here on YouTube trying to suggest that his brother was murdered by an American...well you get the point. This is a sick individual who shames his country and disgraces his brother's memory. You should pity him.
HRMacQuacken 1 year ago
@HRMacQuacken Seriously get a life. If you were not so crazy you may just lose you virginity....and family members that fuck you do not count
mattyreynolds1990 1 year ago
@mattyreynolds1990 who in their right mind would want to take his virginity. I'd rather screw a bagfull of Badgers.
SuperAncientmariner 1 year ago
@SuperAncientmariner I am just saying if she wasnt such a cunt then she would get more cock than just her daddy cock lol
mattyreynolds1990 1 year ago
@mattyreynolds1990 yeah, know what ya mean mate. lol
SuperAncientmariner 1 year ago
SDSR has made the RN second rate. Even France will have a better navy.
stalkingalizee 1 year ago
Attention Everyone:
You may noticed a user calling himself warrior trying to shadow my posts. I believe him to be a pedophile. He has stated many times that he has "4 children". You might want to report his YouTube behavior. Pedophile behavior is illegal in the states and I am sure it is illegal in your countries as well. Help me make YouTube a safer place for our children.
HRMacQuacken 1 year ago
@HRMacQuacken Why do you always run away from me. It's not right for a bitch to run from her master.
SuperAncientmariner 1 year ago
HRMacQuacken is an Anti-British Youtube Troll with hate posted on over 25 different British Videos.
Help make Youtube a Safer Place by BLOCKING USER HRMacQuacken and reporting his hate posts like the "pedophile" one below.
OABW4RR10R 1 year ago
Attention Everyone:
You may noticed a user calling himself warrior trying to shadow my posts. I believe him to be a pedophile. He has stated many times that he has "4 children". You might want to report his YouTube behavior. Pedophile behavior is illegal in the states and I am sure it is illegal in your countries as well. Help me make YouTube a safer place for our children.
HRMacQuacken 1 year ago
@HRMacQuacken Hey Quackjob this is Youtube.
Post comments about the videos.
This is not a Political Forum.
Leave your insane political and historical ideas at the door.
OABW4RR10R 1 year ago
@OABW4RR10R Do you not Know Anything about Our British Military Past, you Dumb ass Uneducated american Idiot.
BritishLad87 1 year ago
@BritishLad87
I'm going to assume your post was meant for HRMacQuacken as I am neither American nor uneducated.
OABW4RR10R 1 year ago
@BritishLad87
Also, that warriorfag is a pedophile. So, be careful.
HRMacQuacken 1 year ago
@HRMacQuacken trolling for more attention again?
Got owned on the other videos HATER?
I'd feel sorry for you but HATERS can go to hell.
OABW4RR10R 1 year ago
@OABW4RR10R
Telling people to "go to hell".
Reported.
HRMacQuacken 1 year ago
@HRMacQuacken
I said HATERS can go to hell. Do you really think Youtube disagrees?
Oh look my "Account Is In Good Standing" still.
Stop trolling, HATING and being a nuisance. Get some therapy. Go do something useful with your life like take REAL History Lessons or put a uniform on and EARN all the things you brag about.
And above all remember that being a good American doesn't mean youhave to HATE everyone else.
Your country still has SOME friends but you hate them too. WHY?!?
OABW4RR10R 1 year ago
Something, something, something
Darkside
Something, something, something
Complete
HRMacQuacken 1 year ago
RULE, BRITANNIA!
HL5IHarrier 1 year ago
The Royal Navy was pretty good over a hundred years ago. You guys got totally beaten by the French though in the American Revolution. And today, your Navy is extremely small compa