ваша не популярная зимняя война закончилась позорным соглашением о перемирии. армию свою положили в Карелии, окончательно летом 1944, и если бы не политики наши, то Русские Воины прошли бы с парадом по Хельсинки...Второго раза не будет...
Nationalism is not an external thing, but lives in the hearts of men. It called out "NEXT YEAR IN JERUSALEM" for 2000 years.
Despite of the centuries of Russian occupation, repression and russification, the hope for freedom in the hearts of Latvians, Lithuanians, Estonians and the Finns hadn't died either.
At first opportunities to express their NATIONALISM more visibly, these people acted. So in 1917-20, and 1990. Sadly, the Ingrians were no longer in their throng.
The Finns have forgotten that their independence questionable means. When a country (Russia) in chaos and war, can hardly be regarded as an attempt to detach a number of areas as legitimate. And of course I smiled, knowing that Finland won the war.Karelia part of Russia from the 11th century, Finland was established in 1918 as an independent state. In Karelia, the Karelian population 6-9%.
@ZimoP You contradict his words,"be part" and at the same time "not be."In fact of the matter is that any consists of its "parts"There is also a law and order, and there are rules regulating the right to self-determination.War and chaos are not the right time. Given that Finland before 1918 was not an independent state,it is believed that the Finns were not aware of a separate nation.For the first time I hear that the tribes were engaged in colonization may be correct to say "settlement"?
It is colonization because you forcibly converted finnic peoples to orthodoxy, forced them to speak and write russian, and swarmed their land with massive numbers of slavic immigrants, thus effectively claiming the land as a part of the russian ethnicity.
There was killing, too.
Karelian population of Karelia is low thanks to Stalin, KGB murdered people simply for having finnish/karelian names. Also transfers to Siberia. They were replaced with tens of thousands russians.
@MyPopori Because that is the whole history. Whether it was the earlier tribes or the greater state, things always played in the hands of the slavic idiom, more and more finno-ugric peoples being destroyed/assimilated.
And yes, I think those 200 other peoples could and should break away from Russia. Russia has always been a prison and a destroyer of nations. I don't believe in multiculturalism/ multi-national states anyway.
@MyPopori I used to have as my "auto-play" track for months, might put it back up.
So, you continue your unfounded argument for non-existence of Finns. But you're wrong. My family background goes to regions settled by a Finic Tribe back at 4th century AD.
That tribe and other Finic tribes have the LAND RIGHTS to what's always been theirs.
That Novgorodians and later Russians and still later the Soviets began itching their way into their territories, DOES NOT do away with those rights.
@MyPopori "Ex nihilo nihil fit" is a true statement. And so is "I am, therefore I speak."
If there never was nothing; there would've never been russification of the people, military garrisons in the land, no declaration of independence, no Winter War. No nothing.
But now, that those were present (and more), is a proof of, "I'm different, I'm not a part of you, I don't belong to you. Let me be me! Away with your yoke from my neck! Away with you! Be gone!"
@obuBBubo There is a "we" are "you" in your opinion. "I'm different, I'm not a part of you" - so you so you rassist, fascist, selfish or chauvinist? -)))) Such thoughts are not to be taken into account seriously. You out of the same crap as everything on this planet.)
@MyPopori Been out of town for four days. But I'm back!!
So, unless you're a Russian; you don't exist...That seems to be underlying thought in your posts generally. WRONG! There were tribes and cultures in existence, who spoke different to Novgorodians.
And their voice is still heard. After hundreds of years of Russian repression and occupation, Latvians, Lithuanians, Estonians and Finns are INDEPENDENT & SOVEREIGN nations, and they STILL speak, and won't be silenced no Russian. Dig that fella.
@obuBBubo Estonia has never been a state for a thousand years.),Finland and Latvia by the way,too.and Lithuania-this is the historic invader.Occupy state, and not the territory.Moreover,in 1940,when Soviet troops entered Estonia did not hear a single shot.And that says a lot.Because local authorities were not legitimate, occupation and in connection with the revolution in the country in 1917.
@MyPopori Holy simplicity!! How is it that braking off from the force that imposed its will uninvited over free people is somehow "illegal"; whereas, the invasions that took away their freedom in the first place is deemed as "legal".
It seems that Russia is the only colonial power left in the world that's crying for the loss of its illegally obtained colonies, and wanting to turn the clock back.
It's time to live in the 21st century, de-colonize even further, and live in peace.
@obuBBubo A considerable part of the Estonians fought on the Soviet side in the 2ww, but now there are marching on the areas veterans of the SS. You are a propagandist, who advocates the separation processes that transform Europe into a weak country-village. Themselves hanging noose around his neck. In some countries already own missile defense system the U.S. military. This in fact is not independence -)
@MyPopori Not one shot. Perhaps, it had something to do with the fear of consequences if they did. Question; did Russians buy Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia and Finland? Or did these invite Russians to take over? If not, Russian occupation was always ILLEGAL!
What says a lot is the fact that given an opportunity, the people above RUN to brake free from their colonial uninvited rulers with their russification and people transfers programs.
Our hearts cry for the Ingrians and North Karelians.
@obuBBubo Yes of course death and the deaths of millions due to the fault is all of Europe "Holy simplicity!!". Here it is the European chauvinism in all its purity. -) Complete crap. That's what I say I do not care about Poland, Finland or any other country I will not and can not respect those who spit in the face and then cries because was answer.We do not want to regain Finland, Poland and some Asian territories. They had long since become common consumers.-)
@obuBBubo However, any strength in unity, not disunity in and we will continue to look for any opportunity. -)
21century - this is an age when the earth will end resources, spoil the environment, overpopulation, and the world face a crisis. It would be naive to believe that 21 is perfect, rather it will be more dreadful than 20. First and foremost, it involves the smallest countries. future for the Asia - Pacific region and we are there, but not Europe.=)
@obuBBubo Fear of the consequences? Lithuania, Latvia is not afraid. What is this nation so cowardly? Why she have army? -) And read about how lived in the Estonia in 20-30 years XX century, a poor agricultural country, dissatisfaction with his rule. Believe North Karelia do not care for your heart and tears. those who live there, not think about this. This was written by a man who had lived there for 3 years.
@MyPopori "Fear of the consequences? Lithuania, Latvia is not afraid."
I was reflecting on your "not one shot was fired when the Soviets entered Estonia", saying they might've been afraid.
Of course, they WERE afraid; hence, they allowed Soviet bases in their countries.
Well, the Finns WERE NOT AFRAID, and consequently refused the same demand put to them by the Soviets. History proves their CHOICE to have been a correct one.
Finland was free from 1944 - 1990 - the other three were not.
@obuBBubo Take a small Belgium. Her Hitler expect to pass for 3 days to capture the France, resisted the small country of about 3 weeks. You say Estonians particularly cowardly nation. Perhaps .=) How else Estonians had to fight for Germany (which is also occupied by her), or for the Soviet Union. Today, a veteran of the Soviet Union - is a villain, but in the area ofveterans marching SS as freedom fighters. -) This causes resentment in Germany.
@MyPopori What happened to my posts..? Hmm..."being coward" is too strong a term to use - afraid (or wise).
Why Estonians fought for Germany? For the same reason the Finns accepted Germans' help (mainly military hardware); that is, SU had occupied (or tried to occupy) their countries, and killed (or deported) tens of thousands of them.
So, don't accused them for anything at all. If no no invasion by SU...
@obuBBubo And how do Europeans may criticize colonial mode and think about the bright future when Europe is in NATO - a military alliance and even bombed the whole world, in every country from 100 to 500 thousand peaceful lives. Moreover colonial to increase stomach all Europeans, rob the entire world.
So much money, compensation must be paid to the affected countries. Europe immediately fly to the stone age.
@MyPopori ALL colonialism was wrong - not just Russians'. Stronger countries simply shouldn't have occupied weaker ones. EVER.
Countries of Europe today belong to NATO for their security. Russians have proven they cannot be trusted when it comes national borders.
Throughout their history, Russia has NEVER recognized sovereignty of its neighbours; but has always meddled in the affairs of its neighbouring nations.
If I had a say, Finland would be a NATO member tomorrow.
@obuBBubo The European countries are in NATO. In order to have bombed the country's oil-rich and resource management. U.S. is actually controlled by NATO. And those countries where The NATO missile defense system, in fact passed its defense stranger to the state. Independence is relative. U.S. Empire, 90% of Europe's is a colonial-imperial past. In 60% of Russian-European wars, the war began by Europeans. Throughout its history, Russia is constantly attacked, we defend itself.
Great respect to finnish people for brave winter war. The loss of area is still quite sad. Bloody european countries like UK should have helped you! They left you alone like the left us (Czechoslovakia) in Munich agreement 29.9.1939. For us it was even sadder :-( It's hard to figt alone, therefore great respect.
Finnish people defended very well their land of a russian aggression it is more than i can say of two nations like USA and UK which make war in the name of "freedom and democracy" on the overseas.
As to that crime of Finns; there's no point in flogging the dead horse. TO THOSE WHOM IT CONCERNS HAVE FORGIVEN IT TO FINNS upon their apology. To those whom it does not concern are but dirty little slanderers running around internet with empty ranting; whilst, the dossier against them themselves is a mile high. The dossier that tells of MURDERED MILLIONS, whose deaths have never been apologised for by the HITLER'S PALS - SS&uSSr aug 1939.
@TheYellowbellyfins "Finland exchanged Jews for Wheat" are LIAR's words. Fact:
"Finnish Jews were not persecuted, and even among extremists of the Finnish Right they were highly tolerated, as many leaders of the movement came from the clergy. Of approximately 500 Jewish refugees, eight were handed over to the Germans, a fact for which Finnish prime minister Paavo Lipponen issued an official apology in 2000."
Russians killed tens of thousands peace-loving people of Europe. Any apology...No.
@TheYellowbellyfins No, Finland only gave the nazis 8 foreign jews and also Finland only allied with Nazis for support against Russians. Finland wanted nothing to do with Nazis other than that. Finnish Jews even fought along side German soldiers and Jews were not persecuted. They even had field synagogue services.. Finland did what they needed to do to defeat Soviets
Let's say my cousins father owns shit loads of land in Finland. During the winter war captured russians soldiers were held prisoners on the land. Along with them weapons and ammuniton was storaged on the land but was forgotten after the war. The governant tryed to find them but was never lucky enough. He found them by making a metal detector, but he never told the governant since he wouldn't get to keep them.
well Finland is damn right to be happy and celebrate they managed to stop SU. We were alone in the winter war only help we got was from sweden. Its really lame of u to support Soviet union . By supporting Soviet union u support the nazis because the nazis allowed Soviet union to attack us it was in the Molotov ribbentrop pact.
@naamakii WINNING is a relative phenomenon ... Standing against destruction , invasion , occupation and tyranny is VICTORY in my mind . Yes Karjala was invaded it was sad . But if Finland had not fought like in Winter War ; an extremely bitter destruction , occupation and invasion would have come not only Karjala but also ENTIRE Finland. Even Karjala was lost the courage and will of Finland for fredom an independence is a VICTORY!
@hunvaybin Funny to read your unstable illogical comment . Finland was on the side where she had to be because of the fact that standing against INVASION and TYRANNY and OCCUPATION of communist Russia...Finland was on German side because it was Russia who threatened and invaded Finland especially KARELIA the ever FINNISH TERRITORY...ON THE OTHER HAND DO YOU THINK YOU FUCKING DAMNED COCSUCKER RUSSIAN BITCHES better ? NO! RUSSIA was the most bloody , damned ,agressor TYRANNY that world ever seen!
@hunvaybin Hey Dumass,, Finland was invaded by the Soviets,, they kicked the soviets asses,, but the Soviets came back with massive numbers and defeated the Finns and took some territory, The only reason the Finns allied with the Nazi's was for revenge against the Russians,, no other reason, The Nazis rearmed and supplied the Finns, to help against Russian domination.. The Finns were not Nazi's they did not want to Rule the world, They wanted to be left alone,, Russians started it
@hunvaybin You're right! Also, Finland has occupied part of Russian Karelia, and held one-third of the siege ring around Leningrad. The fault of the fascists and the Finns in Leningrad died of starvation more than a million civilians.
@zkss10a *facepalm* Not this again. Look, Finland never took part in the whole Siege! Our troops were ordered to halt at he border of 1920, some 30 kilometers north of Leningrad. They had strict order not to take any actions against the city.
But I guess I'll have to thank you for pointing out that we Finns were not "fascists", though not all seem to understand that, so credit where it's due.
@hunvaybin Seriously, you russians should learn your history or shut the fuck up. Soviets were the ones who started this war with the border incident known as "shelling of Mainila". The shelling was carried out from the Soviet side of the border by an NKVD unit with the purpose of providing the Soviet Union a justification for acts of war. Even your government has admitted that it definitely was Russia who attacked first.
its fathers land but finland its shelf called suomineito(finnish lady or woman) so its little bit confusing.sorry my english ja eläköön suomi.nyky räkänokat pilaa meiän maineen oikeen urakalla sen siitä saa ku sotketaan liikaa kulttuureja ja otetaan mallia jenkeistä.oikeastaan vois syyttää kaikesta jenkkien paskaa tv tarjontaa josita me sitte viisaana väsätään omat versiot..
Respect to our finnish brothers from Hungary! You showed how to fight against the russian aggressors! You gave a great example, that such a few patriot can fight against the largest army of the world! Simo Hayha: 705 reasons not to fuck with FINLAND!
@Tonzai2002 me ei hävitty sotaa tollo ollaanko me ryssiä? -ei ja talvisodassa kumpikaan ei voittanut koska venäjä ei saanut mitä piti eli vallata suomee ja me menetettii vain vähän maata ja pidettiin itsenäisyys joten se oli sota ilman voittoa molemmille ja pistä tämä päähäs
@olsku360 Neuvostoliiton populaatio oli yli 200 miljoonaa, suomen liki 2-4 miljoona. Neuvostoliitto menetti enemmän sotilaita kuin Suomi mutta jos verrataan koko kansan populaation suomi sai turpaan ja pahasti. 200k on aika paljon poist 2-4miljoonasta. Yks miljoona 200 miljoonasta? Olisko 1%? Meiän häviöt oli yli 40% Mies populaatiosta ties enemmän, myös köyhöys mikä seurasi siitä. Kato sweduja miten hyvin elivät kun eivät tullut mukaan sotaan.
@tevisboe234 Kuullut ensimmäisestä maailmansodasta? Mannerheim ihan vain oli kenraali tuolloin ryssille.
Muistan että kävin tänä vuonna sota veteraanien kokoontumisissa yli 5000 tuli paikalle ja tein heille kyselyitä että olisivatko antanut maat sodan sijaan? Kyllähän 99.99% Vastas kyllä. Ja miten pääsin sinne oli silleen että menin vanhvanhaäitini kanssa sinne joka myöskin vastusti sotaa.
@tevisboe234 Ihan vain sitä että jos pidät holokaustia pahana pitäisit meidän sotaa ryssiä vastaa pahana. Ja kyllä menis paremmin kulttuuri-tasolta ylipäätänsä. Hirveä häviöhän se oli ja Mannerheim oli vaa veren perässä vaikka itte palveli ryssiä. Oltais vaa annettu ne saaret ryssille ja ei olis tullu sottaa.
Voisi sanoa että suomi on tehny samoja asioita kun hitleri juutalaisille..Me oltiin ryssiä, me ollaan vielki ryssiä. Jätkät tulee rajan yli ja pamautetaa ne, ylvistellään että Simo Häyhä tappo 1000 ryssää. Masentavaa, olis suomi parempi maa jos oltais viel venäjää.
@Tonzai2002 Et vittu voi olla suomalainen jos sulla on tommoset periaatteet, mihin tää maa on menossa, vertailet vielä Suomea ja Natseja keskenään... juutalaiset eivät hyökänneet natsien kimppuun, vaan natsit hyökkäsivät juutalaisten kimppuun. Suomi ei hyökännyt neuvostoliittoon , vaan cccp hyökkäsi suomeen.Ei voi olla noin vaikeeta ymmärtää, paitsi joillekkin ryssien perseennuolijoille se voi olla...
Ootko edes käynyt entisellä suomen alueella venäjällä? Siellä oon niin karun näköstä...
I think the main thing is the strongest friendship of USSR and Finland, which took part after 3 wars. It's pretty, that our soldiers hadn't good equipment and so had the serious losses. Finns and Soviet soldiers fought bravely, so keep the memory of participants of these wars.
@BalashovM you know, we dont even want your grannys to stay in finland. we dont want you will make our country as junk yard as you have done yours. please stay in your own country.
Syvatogor51 You brought up a perfect example of Retardness from you beloved soviet side. The break through at the Mannerheim line... Yes they broke through, but at what cost. Thousands of russians were slaughtered in front of it every day. Hundreds of tanks and planes destroyed.. And in the end, the soviets got the great idea to put almost 150.000men against a small bit of the line, and yet. The only reason you idiots for grandfathers broke through was because of the finns ran out of bullets=(
Russians fought poorly. Mainly because Stalin killed most of his own smart russian war leaders and he though it would be easy to capture Finland so he didn't go with full force at start. If finland would rented them hanko then none of this would happened, but instead Finland turned back against russia. Stalin got pissed only because they didn't rent them that Hanko. It's not smart to piss mentally sick criminal leader especially if that leader is from largest country. Stupid war...
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Ha-ha. Finland was defeated. Mannergeim line was destroyed. Border between SU and Finland relocated. What kind of victory is that? And dont forget - Finland was jast a part of RUSSIAN EMPIRE.
P.S. But your soldiers fought well. My grandfather took part at that war. For SU of course.
@Svyatogor51 Finland may be considered as she was defeated but in reality Finland was a great Victorious. Because the cruel aim of tyrant Russia was to invade not only all of the finland but also all of the scandinavia.If heroic Finns had not resisted and fought against devil all the fatherland would have been invaded and all the Finns would have been sent to GULAG system and would have been perished ; swedish and norwegian people may heve been also. Hail to heroic brave people of FINLAND!
@krallargeliyor Hail to heroic brave people of FINLAND! Only you forgot that the Red Army gave freedom from the Nazis in Norway. You forgot that the Red Army saved the whole of Europe from the Nazis. You forget that the Finnish Government is guilty of a war of 1939. They did not think about Finland and Finnish people and would not negotiate with the USSR. You forgot that the war ended in 1945 and now Russian friends with the Finns.Mauno Koivisto knew this and was the best president of Finland.
@zkss10a I forgot NOTHING ! But you really forgot the CORE point or yo don't have ABILITY to understand. You forgot that communist Russia was not better than Nazis but also more more brutal, inhumane,totalitarian,tormentor and EVIL . Do you wanna know what you forgot or distorted? ONLY stalin killed more than "30 MILLION people" during his bloody reign...Under SOVIET or Russian pressure and TYRANNY MORE THAN 100 MILLION people were killed IDIOT !!! Nazis killed 3,5 million WHAT THE FUCK CCCP??
@hectorbolshevik Logic. If Poland (hundreds of kms away from Russia) was needed for "secure borders", so would've Sweden and Norway been (who would've had a common border with SU. Moreover, public domain tells us of Stalin's overall plan to occupy all of Europe. After Germans and the West had bled each other enough, countries of Europe would've been easy pickings for Soviet "liberators". So, USSR was happy to assist Nazis' war-effort against the West.
@obuBBubo: And does your "public domain" tell you how Stalin would've occupied all of Europe? Here's logic: Stalin with a decapitated army, making treaties with imperialist countries (Germany, France, Britain) hardly shows a plan to occupy all of Europe. A better example is how Mannerheim was quick to embrace Hitler in 1941 and assist the Nazi war effort, only to switch sides when his master was losing. When I ask for a source, I don't mean some outlandish opinion.
@hectorbolshevik "how Stalin would've occupied, etc?" By assisting Germany's war effort against the west, and letting them beat a sh...t out of each other and then attack weakened winner with fresh intact Soviet army.
Stalin embraced Hitler in 1939 willingly without any external pressures; so, how can Mannerheim's seeking for weapons be a "better example". Nah. Molotov travelled to Berlin in Sept 1940 to ask Hitler if SU could try again to occupy Finland. The Nation needed weapons and fast.
@obuBBubo: I strongly believe Finland was totally involved in the siege of Leningrad for these reasons: a rabid anti-Communist like Mannerheim who unleashed the White terror on working people across Finland (not unlike Hitler would do in 1933), wisely playing the victim card for the world after Stalin's fiasco, embracing Hitler. Logic shows Mannerheim to be a person would love a chance to crush the USSR. But as this is a subject that neither Russia or Finland care to explore we may never know.
@hectorbolshevik You're wrong. 1) Mannerheim, an ex-Russian Cavalry general, NEVER believed Germany could take Russia; therefore he counselled for caution. 2) he opposed joining the axis. 3) when Hitler arrived for his 75's, he was whisked away to a little town, instead of given a state reception in Helsinki. 4) Mannerheim REFUSED to attack Leningrad (to Hitler's fuming annoyance). 5) he did not allow Finnish airforce to bomb Leningrad - City he admired and loved greatly.
Dude thats bollocks! Did your grandfather ever tell you anything about that war? And dude we had a revolution and we left your country long time ago. All my grandfathers took a part in that war in Finnish side.
If your grandfather was in Winter War he may have told you about the freezing climate that froze half of the Russian army. Read history oaf!
@Svyatogor51 Hmmm, and im guessing that all the russian ppl are very happy over the way your country is run theese deays?? Corruption, Poverty ppl freeze and starve to death!! YEAH!! sounds awesome... Damn i cant say this enough...Thanks all finnish veterans who kept out nation free of these animals called Russians. If we only would have been a bit more prepared, and a bit more geared. Stalin would have been eating finnish steel for breakfest=(
@Svyatogor51 It was a military victory but a political defeat for Finland.
The Finnish armed forces were fighting until the truce came to power, and it never surrendered. Also, there was no Soviet occupation. However, due the lack of foreign support, we were forced to sign a harsh peace treaty. After all, the western contries were unable to do anything meaningful, Germany was allied with USSR and the other Northern countries refused to form a defencealliance with Finland.
@Svyatogor51@Svyatogor51 Your saying that 100,000 men against 1.5 million, who kill one million with only losing forty thousand of there own lost? They may have lost tiny parts of their country but they still won
@Svyatogor51 Defeated? Then tell me when Finland was a part of the Soviet union. Never, you damn ruskies just cant admit that you failed on your mission to invade finland.
@Svyatogor51 next time you write a comment, please don't refer to the Soviet Union as SU. Finland is "Suomi" in Finnish and this makes your referencing confusing. Plus, every knows the abbreviation for the Soviet Union is USSR(United Soviet Socialist Republic) so it makes me question just how much you know about the topic.
@Svyatogor51 The Soviets had taken over the entire northern countries where Finland would have given up. Finland won, and so was allowed to retain autonomy.
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KubeesCz 2 weeks ago
What is the name of the song and its author?
P.S: Respect and greetings for brave fins.
KubeesCz 2 weeks ago
@KubeesCz Thanks ... Tuli Kokko - KORPIKLAANI
krallargeliyor1 2 weeks ago
ваша не популярная зимняя война закончилась позорным соглашением о перемирии. армию свою положили в Карелии, окончательно летом 1944, и если бы не политики наши, то Русские Воины прошли бы с парадом по Хельсинки...Второго раза не будет...
MrRoverTSS 3 weeks ago
@MrRoverTSS Utter RUBBISH!!!
Winter War:
- 3.5 million vs. 184 million; 30 tanks vs. 2000 tanks; 114 vs. 1000 fighter planes; a few ww1 artillery pieces vs. thousands of modern ones.
- 25 000 dead vs. 250 000 dead
Continuation War:
- Red Army ground to halt at Tali/Ihantala
- "After the DEFEAT of our forces, Stalin lost his nerve" (Khruschev)
- "We were stopped by that ###@ Finnish army" (Molotov)
Policy was to OCCUPY ALL OF FINLAND.
Couldn't do it; hence, NO Soviet parading in Helsinki. Yep.
obuBBubo 3 weeks ago 3
Today stalin is comm. china. Vietnam won in 1979. How Japan tomorrow ???
1969winentice 1 month ago
Nationalism is not an external thing, but lives in the hearts of men. It called out "NEXT YEAR IN JERUSALEM" for 2000 years.
Despite of the centuries of Russian occupation, repression and russification, the hope for freedom in the hearts of Latvians, Lithuanians, Estonians and the Finns hadn't died either.
At first opportunities to express their NATIONALISM more visibly, these people acted. So in 1917-20, and 1990. Sadly, the Ingrians were no longer in their throng.
NEXT YEAR IN KARELIA!!
obuBBubo 1 month ago
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ZimoP 1 month ago
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ZimoP 1 month ago
The Finns have forgotten that their independence questionable means. When a country (Russia) in chaos and war, can hardly be regarded as an attempt to detach a number of areas as legitimate. And of course I smiled, knowing that Finland won the war.Karelia part of Russia from the 11th century, Finland was established in 1918 as an independent state. In Karelia, the Karelian population 6-9%.
MyPopori 1 month ago
@MyPopori
Being part of "russia" does not equal being russian. Every nation has the right to be governed by themselves
There is nothing new under the sun about slavs colonising ancient finnic lands.
ZimoP 1 month ago
@ZimoP You contradict his words,"be part" and at the same time "not be."In fact of the matter is that any consists of its "parts"There is also a law and order, and there are rules regulating the right to self-determination.War and chaos are not the right time. Given that Finland before 1918 was not an independent state,it is believed that the Finns were not aware of a separate nation.For the first time I hear that the tribes were engaged in colonization may be correct to say "settlement"?
MyPopori 1 month ago
@MyPopori
It is colonization because you forcibly converted finnic peoples to orthodoxy, forced them to speak and write russian, and swarmed their land with massive numbers of slavic immigrants, thus effectively claiming the land as a part of the russian ethnicity.
There was killing, too.
Karelian population of Karelia is low thanks to Stalin, KGB murdered people simply for having finnish/karelian names. Also transfers to Siberia. They were replaced with tens of thousands russians.
ZimoP 1 month ago
@ZimoP The last time you wrote about the tribes of the Slavs. But the tribe is not the state. Why now are writing about the country?
MyPopori 1 month ago
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@MyPopori Because that is the whole history. Whether it was the earlier tribes or the greater state, things always played in the hands of the slavic idiom, more and more finno-ugric peoples being destroyed/assimilated.
And yes, I think those 200 other peoples could and should break away from Russia. Russia has always been a prison and a destroyer of nations. I don't believe in multiculturalism/ multi-national states anyway.
ZimoP 1 month ago
@MyPopori I used to have as my "auto-play" track for months, might put it back up.
So, you continue your unfounded argument for non-existence of Finns. But you're wrong. My family background goes to regions settled by a Finic Tribe back at 4th century AD.
That tribe and other Finic tribes have the LAND RIGHTS to what's always been theirs.
That Novgorodians and later Russians and still later the Soviets began itching their way into their territories, DOES NOT do away with those rights.
obuBBubo 1 month ago
@MyPopori "Ex nihilo nihil fit" is a true statement. And so is "I am, therefore I speak."
If there never was nothing; there would've never been russification of the people, military garrisons in the land, no declaration of independence, no Winter War. No nothing.
But now, that those were present (and more), is a proof of, "I'm different, I'm not a part of you, I don't belong to you. Let me be me! Away with your yoke from my neck! Away with you! Be gone!"
Only forced people speak like that.
obuBBubo 1 month ago
@obuBBubo There is a "we" are "you" in your opinion. "I'm different, I'm not a part of you" - so you so you rassist, fascist, selfish or chauvinist? -)))) Such thoughts are not to be taken into account seriously. You out of the same crap as everything on this planet.)
MyPopori 1 month ago
@MyPopori Been out of town for four days. But I'm back!!
So, unless you're a Russian; you don't exist...That seems to be underlying thought in your posts generally. WRONG! There were tribes and cultures in existence, who spoke different to Novgorodians.
And their voice is still heard. After hundreds of years of Russian repression and occupation, Latvians, Lithuanians, Estonians and Finns are INDEPENDENT & SOVEREIGN nations, and they STILL speak, and won't be silenced no Russian. Dig that fella.
obuBBubo 1 month ago
@obuBBubo Estonia has never been a state for a thousand years.),Finland and Latvia by the way,too.and Lithuania-this is the historic invader.Occupy state, and not the territory.Moreover,in 1940,when Soviet troops entered Estonia did not hear a single shot.And that says a lot.Because local authorities were not legitimate, occupation and in connection with the revolution in the country in 1917.
MyPopori 1 month ago
@MyPopori Holy simplicity!! How is it that braking off from the force that imposed its will uninvited over free people is somehow "illegal"; whereas, the invasions that took away their freedom in the first place is deemed as "legal".
It seems that Russia is the only colonial power left in the world that's crying for the loss of its illegally obtained colonies, and wanting to turn the clock back.
It's time to live in the 21st century, de-colonize even further, and live in peace.
obuBBubo 1 month ago
@obuBBubo A considerable part of the Estonians fought on the Soviet side in the 2ww, but now there are marching on the areas veterans of the SS. You are a propagandist, who advocates the separation processes that transform Europe into a weak country-village. Themselves hanging noose around his neck. In some countries already own missile defense system the U.S. military. This in fact is not independence -)
MyPopori 1 month ago
@MyPopori Not one shot. Perhaps, it had something to do with the fear of consequences if they did. Question; did Russians buy Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia and Finland? Or did these invite Russians to take over? If not, Russian occupation was always ILLEGAL!
What says a lot is the fact that given an opportunity, the people above RUN to brake free from their colonial uninvited rulers with their russification and people transfers programs.
Our hearts cry for the Ingrians and North Karelians.
obuBBubo 1 month ago
@obuBBubo Yes of course death and the deaths of millions due to the fault is all of Europe "Holy simplicity!!". Here it is the European chauvinism in all its purity. -) Complete crap. That's what I say I do not care about Poland, Finland or any other country I will not and can not respect those who spit in the face and then cries because was answer.We do not want to regain Finland, Poland and some Asian territories. They had long since become common consumers.-)
MyPopori 1 month ago
@obuBBubo However, any strength in unity, not disunity in and we will continue to look for any opportunity. -)
21century - this is an age when the earth will end resources, spoil the environment, overpopulation, and the world face a crisis. It would be naive to believe that 21 is perfect, rather it will be more dreadful than 20. First and foremost, it involves the smallest countries. future for the Asia - Pacific region and we are there, but not Europe.=)
MyPopori 1 month ago
@obuBBubo Fear of the consequences? Lithuania, Latvia is not afraid. What is this nation so cowardly? Why she have army? -) And read about how lived in the Estonia in 20-30 years XX century, a poor agricultural country, dissatisfaction with his rule. Believe North Karelia do not care for your heart and tears. those who live there, not think about this. This was written by a man who had lived there for 3 years.
MyPopori 1 month ago
@MyPopori "Fear of the consequences? Lithuania, Latvia is not afraid."
I was reflecting on your "not one shot was fired when the Soviets entered Estonia", saying they might've been afraid.
Of course, they WERE afraid; hence, they allowed Soviet bases in their countries.
Well, the Finns WERE NOT AFRAID, and consequently refused the same demand put to them by the Soviets. History proves their CHOICE to have been a correct one.
Finland was free from 1944 - 1990 - the other three were not.
obuBBubo 1 month ago
@obuBBubo Take a small Belgium. Her Hitler expect to pass for 3 days to capture the France, resisted the small country of about 3 weeks. You say Estonians particularly cowardly nation. Perhaps .=) How else Estonians had to fight for Germany (which is also occupied by her), or for the Soviet Union. Today, a veteran of the Soviet Union - is a villain, but in the area ofveterans marching SS as freedom fighters. -) This causes resentment in Germany.
MyPopori 1 month ago
@MyPopori What happened to my posts..? Hmm..."being coward" is too strong a term to use - afraid (or wise).
Why Estonians fought for Germany? For the same reason the Finns accepted Germans' help (mainly military hardware); that is, SU had occupied (or tried to occupy) their countries, and killed (or deported) tens of thousands of them.
So, don't accused them for anything at all. If no no invasion by SU...
A there for B. If no A then no B.
It all was a fault of the Soviets.
obuBBubo 1 month ago
@obuBBubo And how do Europeans may criticize colonial mode and think about the bright future when Europe is in NATO - a military alliance and even bombed the whole world, in every country from 100 to 500 thousand peaceful lives. Moreover colonial to increase stomach all Europeans, rob the entire world.
So much money, compensation must be paid to the affected countries. Europe immediately fly to the stone age.
MyPopori 1 month ago
@MyPopori ALL colonialism was wrong - not just Russians'. Stronger countries simply shouldn't have occupied weaker ones. EVER.
Countries of Europe today belong to NATO for their security. Russians have proven they cannot be trusted when it comes national borders.
Throughout their history, Russia has NEVER recognized sovereignty of its neighbours; but has always meddled in the affairs of its neighbouring nations.
If I had a say, Finland would be a NATO member tomorrow.
obuBBubo 1 month ago
@obuBBubo The European countries are in NATO. In order to have bombed the country's oil-rich and resource management. U.S. is actually controlled by NATO. And those countries where The NATO missile defense system, in fact passed its defense stranger to the state. Independence is relative. U.S. Empire, 90% of Europe's is a colonial-imperial past. In 60% of Russian-European wars, the war began by Europeans. Throughout its history, Russia is constantly attacked, we defend itself.
MyPopori 1 month ago
Great respect to finnish people for brave winter war. The loss of area is still quite sad. Bloody european countries like UK should have helped you! They left you alone like the left us (Czechoslovakia) in Munich agreement 29.9.1939. For us it was even sadder :-( It's hard to figt alone, therefore great respect.
KubeesCz 1 month ago
Finnish people defended very well their land of a russian aggression it is more than i can say of two nations like USA and UK which make war in the name of "freedom and democracy" on the overseas.
pericopico876 1 month ago
Needs some correction and punctuation:
"Finland, at the centre of European fascism" (which of course is untrue)
Ps. Hitler's dirty little henchmen (blockthehood, yogibear, and yellowbelly) wrote the above.
obuBBubo 2 months ago
Finland AT THE CENTRE OF EUROPEAN FASCISM HITLERS DIRTY LITTLE HENCHMEN WHO WROTE THAT ?
TheMrBlockTheHood 2 months ago
Finland Faggots
TheMrBlockTheHood 2 months ago
@TheMrBlockTheHood LOLOLOLOOOOOOOLOLOL
Zuomigundi 2 months ago
Finland land of Nazi Arse licking cowards
TheMrBlockTheHood 2 months ago
@TheMrBlockTheHood OH I WANT TO FUCK YOU OH YEAH OOOOH UUUH AAH
Zuomigundi 2 months ago
Finland Gestapo Bum Boys Fucking Filthy Nazi Loving Finnish COWARDS
TheMrBlockTheHood 3 months ago
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Zuomigundi 2 months ago
@TheMrBlockTheHood mm your ass is so juicy
Zuomigundi 2 months ago
@Zuomigundi Finnish Bum Boy Typical Finland Nazi Loving PRICKS
TheMrBlockTheHood 2 months ago
The Finnish State Police handed over to the Gestapo on the 6th November 8 Jews to be MURDERED A cowardly act by a Cowardly two faced bunch of rats
TheYellowbellyfins 4 months ago
@TheYellowbellyfins Is a LIE, and a lousy LIAR.
As to that crime of Finns; there's no point in flogging the dead horse. TO THOSE WHOM IT CONCERNS HAVE FORGIVEN IT TO FINNS upon their apology. To those whom it does not concern are but dirty little slanderers running around internet with empty ranting; whilst, the dossier against them themselves is a mile high. The dossier that tells of MURDERED MILLIONS, whose deaths have never been apologised for by the HITLER'S PALS - SS&uSSr aug 1939.
obuBBubo 4 months ago
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russian army is one of the worst and amoral armies in the world
C2H5OHhhh 4 months ago
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C2H5OHhhh 4 months ago
FILTHY FINNS
PanglossPuckeredButt 5 months ago
Finland exchanged Jews for Wheat
TheYellowbellyfins 5 months ago
@TheYellowbellyfins is a LIE, and a dirty LIAR. Period.
obuBBubo 5 months ago
@TheYellowbellyfins "Finland exchanged Jews for Wheat" are LIAR's words. Fact:
"Finnish Jews were not persecuted, and even among extremists of the Finnish Right they were highly tolerated, as many leaders of the movement came from the clergy. Of approximately 500 Jewish refugees, eight were handed over to the Germans, a fact for which Finnish prime minister Paavo Lipponen issued an official apology in 2000."
Russians killed tens of thousands peace-loving people of Europe. Any apology...No.
obuBBubo 4 months ago
hey, what's that? Finnish metal? (btw fuck all russkies, 90 years ago, fucking communist but now fucking gangsters)
efrainc23 5 months ago
Finland Nazi Sympathisers
TheYellowbellyfins 5 months ago
@TheYellowbellyfins No, Finland only gave the nazis 8 foreign jews and also Finland only allied with Nazis for support against Russians. Finland wanted nothing to do with Nazis other than that. Finnish Jews even fought along side German soldiers and Jews were not persecuted. They even had field synagogue services.. Finland did what they needed to do to defeat Soviets
nflfabfonz 5 months ago
Genius Mannerheim & the heroic fight of the Finns should never be forgotten!
luckyowl249 6 months ago
Let's say my cousins father owns shit loads of land in Finland. During the winter war captured russians soldiers were held prisoners on the land. Along with them weapons and ammuniton was storaged on the land but was forgotten after the war. The governant tryed to find them but was never lucky enough. He found them by making a metal detector, but he never told the governant since he wouldn't get to keep them.
False or true? you will never know !
IcyViking 7 months ago
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IcyViking 7 months ago
Russia invaded but at the end Finland was still an independent country governed by Finns ...
They may have lost some land but they WON the war.
Somewhere in the neighborhood of 250,000 dead russians with25,000 Finns lost?
Anyone who doesn't consider that a Victory is an idiot.
As did the whole world at that time.
m9b7v5 7 months ago
This video seems like propaganda.
TheYoMiEs 7 months ago
6TH NOVEMBER 1942 Brave Finland Ha Ha
TheYellowbellyfins 7 months ago
YELLOW BELLY'S
TheYellowbellyfins 8 months ago
well Finland is damn right to be happy and celebrate they managed to stop SU. We were alone in the winter war only help we got was from sweden. Its really lame of u to support Soviet union . By supporting Soviet union u support the nazis because the nazis allowed Soviet union to attack us it was in the Molotov ribbentrop pact.
blasb111 9 months ago 6
@blasb111 Well put, friend. Drolls make no difference how the FACTS stack up.
obuBBubo 9 months ago
The Fighting Finns that's a JOKE
TheYellowbellyfins 9 months ago
FIGHT AGAINST COMMUNISM!
TheRedSkin2009 9 months ago 2
The character of the Finns was demonstrated to the world. As David faced Goliath with heaven on the side of right.
poetlionheart 9 months ago
Finland has always been in the shadow of SWEDEN
TheYellowbellyfins 10 months ago
@TheYellowbellyfins How so?
MrSuurijohtaja 9 months ago
@TheYellowbellyfins Sweden is just full of fags, you would lose a war against the Vatican State.
TheCaMaker 8 months ago
@TheCaMaker Sweden has puny faggot finland well under the boot
TheYellowbellyfins 8 months ago
@TheYellowbellyfins No oltiinko Ruotsin varjossa vuosina 1939-1944?
Eiköhån noi vuodet kerro kaiken meistä. Kyllä lähtee :)
Kyllä se Suomi-poika rupee tappelee kun meinaa torppa lähtee alta.
lintu25 8 months ago 4
If it were not for Russia, Finland would have been part of Sweden.
Vadsee 10 months ago
War as a war. There were hundreds in Europe.
0Russia0 10 months ago
FINLAND>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>russia
metalhealth1980 10 months ago
Finnish metal RAWKS! HAIL NORDIC BATTLEGROUP!
specom 11 months ago
Finland did NOT won the war -.- They won many battles, kept good defence, but officially lost the war.
naamakii 11 months ago
@naamakii WINNING is a relative phenomenon ... Standing against destruction , invasion , occupation and tyranny is VICTORY in my mind . Yes Karjala was invaded it was sad . But if Finland had not fought like in Winter War ; an extremely bitter destruction , occupation and invasion would have come not only Karjala but also ENTIRE Finland. Even Karjala was lost the courage and will of Finland for fredom an independence is a VICTORY!
krallargeliyor 11 months ago 24
@krallargeliyor yes, but there are no winners on war. :P
GmaulGOD 11 months ago
@krallargeliyor well played sir well played.
TheExtremenator 7 months ago
@naamakii Depends how you define victory.
Officially Finland lost the war yes.
Finland completed/won her objective, (Independence) Soviet Unions objective was taking over Finland, they failed horribly.
OniBeast 11 months ago
@naamakii but the victory for that price was a big moral lose for USSR
GmaulGOD 8 months ago
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Funny to read the comments. Finland started this war. Finland was on Germans side in WWII. Fucking Nazis.
hunvaybin 1 year ago
@hunvaybin Funny to read your unstable illogical comment . Finland was on the side where she had to be because of the fact that standing against INVASION and TYRANNY and OCCUPATION of communist Russia...Finland was on German side because it was Russia who threatened and invaded Finland especially KARELIA the ever FINNISH TERRITORY...ON THE OTHER HAND DO YOU THINK YOU FUCKING DAMNED COCSUCKER RUSSIAN BITCHES better ? NO! RUSSIA was the most bloody , damned ,agressor TYRANNY that world ever seen!
krallargeliyor 1 year ago 16
@hunvaybin Yes, we were on the Axis side AFTER 1941. Winter War how ever happened in 1939, when USSR and Germany were allies.
We were as much nazis as USSR was democratic. Also, in 1944-45 drove the germans out of Lapland by force.
When will these people learn to fact check before they start repeating the same tired old propagand bulls'it like robots?
Arkticus 1 year ago
@hunvaybin Oh, and the Winter War began after Soviet bombers bombed our cities and the Red Army units stationed next to our border crossed it.
The start of the Continnuation war was a deja-vu, but this time on ground it was our forces that advanced into the occupied Karjala....
Arkticus 1 year ago
@hunvaybin Hey Dumass,, Finland was invaded by the Soviets,, they kicked the soviets asses,, but the Soviets came back with massive numbers and defeated the Finns and took some territory, The only reason the Finns allied with the Nazi's was for revenge against the Russians,, no other reason, The Nazis rearmed and supplied the Finns, to help against Russian domination.. The Finns were not Nazi's they did not want to Rule the world, They wanted to be left alone,, Russians started it
ikambor 1 year ago
@hunvaybin You're right! Also, Finland has occupied part of Russian Karelia, and held one-third of the siege ring around Leningrad. The fault of the fascists and the Finns in Leningrad died of starvation more than a million civilians.
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zkss10a 1 year ago
@zkss10a *facepalm* Not this again. Look, Finland never took part in the whole Siege! Our troops were ordered to halt at he border of 1920, some 30 kilometers north of Leningrad. They had strict order not to take any actions against the city.
But I guess I'll have to thank you for pointing out that we Finns were not "fascists", though not all seem to understand that, so credit where it's due.
Arkticus 11 months ago
@hunvaybin Seriously, you russians should learn your history or shut the fuck up. Soviets were the ones who started this war with the border incident known as "shelling of Mainila". The shelling was carried out from the Soviet side of the border by an NKVD unit with the purpose of providing the Soviet Union a justification for acts of war. Even your government has admitted that it definitely was Russia who attacked first.
Laakerii 11 months ago
Oh ya....Finland invaded Russia? Read a book you ignorant idiot.
Bjorklund75 10 months ago
@hunvaybin What bad is in nazis germany old old army
arttusaarinen 9 months ago
Fuck Russia and Comunism from Croatia!
88Matija 1 year ago
Only small can be a brave. Home of brave, Finland.
Isanmaantoivo100 1 year ago
Good music!!! I wish I could understand the lyrics!
worras2007 1 year ago
its fathers land but finland its shelf called suomineito(finnish lady or woman) so its little bit confusing.sorry my english ja eläköön suomi.nyky räkänokat pilaa meiän maineen oikeen urakalla sen siitä saa ku sotketaan liikaa kulttuureja ja otetaan mallia jenkeistä.oikeastaan vois syyttää kaikesta jenkkien paskaa tv tarjontaa josita me sitte viisaana väsätään omat versiot..
rakkipallo 1 year ago
The finns are in their element when its winter.
xB4LL50F5T33Lx 1 year ago
Russia is the bigest aggressor ever!
Ukraine was occupied by Russia many times during last few centuries.
Unfortunately even now we are still suffering from them.
YSmetana 1 year ago
@YSmetana
Что ты болтаешь обезьяна! Киев всегда был русским городом и столицей Киевской Руси. Ты вонючий русофоб.
kashakrus47 1 year ago
FUCK RUSSIA
MrShneck 1 year ago
Respect to our finnish brothers from Hungary! You showed how to fight against the russian aggressors! You gave a great example, that such a few patriot can fight against the largest army of the world! Simo Hayha: 705 reasons not to fuck with FINLAND!
Chrystoforoo 1 year ago 2
Yeah, Norg drop that enemy plane!
Hiikeri 1 year ago
@tevisboe234 Mistäs tiiät? Ei Neuvostoliitto mikään paholainen sentään ollu.
Tonzai2002 1 year ago
@tevisboe234 Ja sitäpaitsi me hävittiin ja vitun pahasti.
Tonzai2002 1 year ago
@Tonzai2002 me ei hävitty sotaa tollo ollaanko me ryssiä? -ei ja talvisodassa kumpikaan ei voittanut koska venäjä ei saanut mitä piti eli vallata suomee ja me menetettii vain vähän maata ja pidettiin itsenäisyys joten se oli sota ilman voittoa molemmille ja pistä tämä päähäs
olsku360 1 year ago
@olsku360 Neuvostoliiton populaatio oli yli 200 miljoonaa, suomen liki 2-4 miljoona. Neuvostoliitto menetti enemmän sotilaita kuin Suomi mutta jos verrataan koko kansan populaation suomi sai turpaan ja pahasti. 200k on aika paljon poist 2-4miljoonasta. Yks miljoona 200 miljoonasta? Olisko 1%? Meiän häviöt oli yli 40% Mies populaatiosta ties enemmän, myös köyhöys mikä seurasi siitä. Kato sweduja miten hyvin elivät kun eivät tullut mukaan sotaan.
Tonzai2002 1 year ago
@Tonzai2002 Tuskin hävittiin suomee puhuva reppahousu.. Ota pää hanurista! ja / tai ole hiljaa.... mä säälin sua.. kommari....
MrKettu77 1 year ago
@tevisboe234 Kuullut ensimmäisestä maailmansodasta? Mannerheim ihan vain oli kenraali tuolloin ryssille.
Muistan että kävin tänä vuonna sota veteraanien kokoontumisissa yli 5000 tuli paikalle ja tein heille kyselyitä että olisivatko antanut maat sodan sijaan? Kyllähän 99.99% Vastas kyllä. Ja miten pääsin sinne oli silleen että menin vanhvanhaäitini kanssa sinne joka myöskin vastusti sotaa.
Tonzai2002 1 year ago
@tevisboe234 Ihan vain sitä että jos pidät holokaustia pahana pitäisit meidän sotaa ryssiä vastaa pahana. Ja kyllä menis paremmin kulttuuri-tasolta ylipäätänsä. Hirveä häviöhän se oli ja Mannerheim oli vaa veren perässä vaikka itte palveli ryssiä. Oltais vaa annettu ne saaret ryssille ja ei olis tullu sottaa.
Tonzai2002 1 year ago
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Respect to Finland. Brave people. Vous être des héros. People of FINLAND is Best of the Best.
vietnaquehuongtoi 1 year ago
I'm Swedish.
I salute Finnish independence.
Let enemies come.
scholion 1 year ago 3
Voisi sanoa että suomi on tehny samoja asioita kun hitleri juutalaisille..Me oltiin ryssiä, me ollaan vielki ryssiä. Jätkät tulee rajan yli ja pamautetaa ne, ylvistellään että Simo Häyhä tappo 1000 ryssää. Masentavaa, olis suomi parempi maa jos oltais viel venäjää.
Tonzai2002 1 year ago
@Tonzai2002
Nii ku asiat ois yhtä hyvi ku 10 v sit virossa. Et oikeesti oo tota mieltä, tiiät sen ittekkin.
Joojamo 1 year ago
@Tonzai2002 Et vittu voi olla suomalainen jos sulla on tommoset periaatteet, mihin tää maa on menossa, vertailet vielä Suomea ja Natseja keskenään... juutalaiset eivät hyökänneet natsien kimppuun, vaan natsit hyökkäsivät juutalaisten kimppuun. Suomi ei hyökännyt neuvostoliittoon , vaan cccp hyökkäsi suomeen.Ei voi olla noin vaikeeta ymmärtää, paitsi joillekkin ryssien perseennuolijoille se voi olla...
Ootko edes käynyt entisellä suomen alueella venäjällä? Siellä oon niin karun näköstä...
MikeRFIN 1 year ago
Respect to Finland, great country.
Better dead than red. FUCK COMMUNISM!!!
88Matija 1 year ago 33
@88Matija INDEED! F*CK COMMUNISM!
OtakuPraetorius 5 months ago
I think the main thing is the strongest friendship of USSR and Finland, which took part after 3 wars. It's pretty, that our soldiers hadn't good equipment and so had the serious losses. Finns and Soviet soldiers fought bravely, so keep the memory of participants of these wars.
BalashovM 1 year ago
@BalashovM
What's your problem mate?
blukasz1 1 year ago
@BalashovM you know, we dont even want your grannys to stay in finland. we dont want you will make our country as junk yard as you have done yours. please stay in your own country.
PekkaGreat 1 year ago
live long finland brave nation it has stand up to the red beast and won
live long finland may Odin bless you for year to come
odinhorns 1 year ago
Ha-ha. Svyatogor51 on Ryssä!
djhylje 1 year ago
Isoisämme olivat tosi urheita ja sitkeitä
kuningaspaukku 1 year ago
'nobody respects a country with a poor army,but everybody respects a country with a good army,i raise my toast to the finnish army'
Joseph Stalin 1948
even the stalin himself gave us Finns some respect.
stalkka 1 year ago
Syvatogor51 You brought up a perfect example of Retardness from you beloved soviet side. The break through at the Mannerheim line... Yes they broke through, but at what cost. Thousands of russians were slaughtered in front of it every day. Hundreds of tanks and planes destroyed.. And in the end, the soviets got the great idea to put almost 150.000men against a small bit of the line, and yet. The only reason you idiots for grandfathers broke through was because of the finns ran out of bullets=(
Marauder115 1 year ago
Russians fought poorly. Mainly because Stalin killed most of his own smart russian war leaders and he though it would be easy to capture Finland so he didn't go with full force at start. If finland would rented them hanko then none of this would happened, but instead Finland turned back against russia. Stalin got pissed only because they didn't rent them that Hanko. It's not smart to piss mentally sick criminal leader especially if that leader is from largest country. Stupid war...
kungiiii 1 year ago
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finlandorc 1 year ago
im finnish and my grandpa died in the winter war
marines0777 1 year ago
Fuck commie dogs!
polkuauto55 1 year ago
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Ha-ha. Finland was defeated. Mannergeim line was destroyed. Border between SU and Finland relocated. What kind of victory is that? And dont forget - Finland was jast a part of RUSSIAN EMPIRE.
P.S. But your soldiers fought well. My grandfather took part at that war. For SU of course.
Svyatogor51 1 year ago
@Svyatogor51
Finland wasn't defeated because Stalin's idea was to occupy whole Finland and move the Finns to Siberia.
MembThePenguinII 1 year ago
@Svyatogor51 Finland may be considered as she was defeated but in reality Finland was a great Victorious. Because the cruel aim of tyrant Russia was to invade not only all of the finland but also all of the scandinavia.If heroic Finns had not resisted and fought against devil all the fatherland would have been invaded and all the Finns would have been sent to GULAG system and would have been perished ; swedish and norwegian people may heve been also. Hail to heroic brave people of FINLAND!
krallargeliyor 1 year ago 29
@krallargeliyor
Agreed.
Finland won in my book.
lagduftothemax 1 year ago
@krallargeliyor She?Its a fatherland not motherland like those dirty russians.
xB4LL50F5T33Lx 1 year ago
@krallargeliyor Hail to heroic brave people of FINLAND! Only you forgot that the Red Army gave freedom from the Nazis in Norway. You forgot that the Red Army saved the whole of Europe from the Nazis. You forget that the Finnish Government is guilty of a war of 1939. They did not think about Finland and Finnish people and would not negotiate with the USSR. You forgot that the war ended in 1945 and now Russian friends with the Finns.Mauno Koivisto knew this and was the best president of Finland.
zkss10a 1 year ago
@zkss10a And the best Finnish President Urho Kaleva Kekkonen was
zkss10a 1 year ago
@zkss10a I forgot NOTHING ! But you really forgot the CORE point or yo don't have ABILITY to understand. You forgot that communist Russia was not better than Nazis but also more more brutal, inhumane,totalitarian,tormentor and EVIL . Do you wanna know what you forgot or distorted? ONLY stalin killed more than "30 MILLION people" during his bloody reign...Under SOVIET or Russian pressure and TYRANNY MORE THAN 100 MILLION people were killed IDIOT !!! Nazis killed 3,5 million WHAT THE FUCK CCCP??
krallargeliyor 1 year ago
@krallargeliyor: What source do you have that the Soviets wanted to invade all of Scandinavia?
hectorbolshevik 9 months ago
@hectorbolshevik Logic. If Poland (hundreds of kms away from Russia) was needed for "secure borders", so would've Sweden and Norway been (who would've had a common border with SU. Moreover, public domain tells us of Stalin's overall plan to occupy all of Europe. After Germans and the West had bled each other enough, countries of Europe would've been easy pickings for Soviet "liberators". So, USSR was happy to assist Nazis' war-effort against the West.
obuBBubo 9 months ago
@obuBBubo: And does your "public domain" tell you how Stalin would've occupied all of Europe? Here's logic: Stalin with a decapitated army, making treaties with imperialist countries (Germany, France, Britain) hardly shows a plan to occupy all of Europe. A better example is how Mannerheim was quick to embrace Hitler in 1941 and assist the Nazi war effort, only to switch sides when his master was losing. When I ask for a source, I don't mean some outlandish opinion.
hectorbolshevik 9 months ago
@hectorbolshevik "how Stalin would've occupied, etc?" By assisting Germany's war effort against the west, and letting them beat a sh...t out of each other and then attack weakened winner with fresh intact Soviet army.
Stalin embraced Hitler in 1939 willingly without any external pressures; so, how can Mannerheim's seeking for weapons be a "better example". Nah. Molotov travelled to Berlin in Sept 1940 to ask Hitler if SU could try again to occupy Finland. The Nation needed weapons and fast.
obuBBubo 9 months ago
@obuBBubo: I strongly believe Finland was totally involved in the siege of Leningrad for these reasons: a rabid anti-Communist like Mannerheim who unleashed the White terror on working people across Finland (not unlike Hitler would do in 1933), wisely playing the victim card for the world after Stalin's fiasco, embracing Hitler. Logic shows Mannerheim to be a person would love a chance to crush the USSR. But as this is a subject that neither Russia or Finland care to explore we may never know.
hectorbolshevik 9 months ago
@hectorbolshevik You're wrong. 1) Mannerheim, an ex-Russian Cavalry general, NEVER believed Germany could take Russia; therefore he counselled for caution. 2) he opposed joining the axis. 3) when Hitler arrived for his 75's, he was whisked away to a little town, instead of given a state reception in Helsinki. 4) Mannerheim REFUSED to attack Leningrad (to Hitler's fuming annoyance). 5) he did not allow Finnish airforce to bomb Leningrad - City he admired and loved greatly.
obuBBubo 9 months ago
@krallargeliyor I support russians in this war because finns are very arrogant because they win this war
3DSFuture 9 months ago
@krallargeliyor Norway was already taken by Germany dude, USSR and Germany were allies then.
whythewar1 8 months ago in playlist Favorites.
Dude thats bollocks! Did your grandfather ever tell you anything about that war? And dude we had a revolution and we left your country long time ago. All my grandfathers took a part in that war in Finnish side.
If your grandfather was in Winter War he may have told you about the freezing climate that froze half of the Russian army. Read history oaf!
PatriaFinlandia 1 year ago
@Svyatogor51 Do you openly mock Finland ?
you dont want to wake the sleeping Lion...
commie pigfucker..
My Grandfather fought in both wars. he is a finnish war hero...
Dont talk shit about my fatherland...
41NJPLUT 1 year ago
@Svyatogor51 Hmmm, and im guessing that all the russian ppl are very happy over the way your country is run theese deays?? Corruption, Poverty ppl freeze and starve to death!! YEAH!! sounds awesome... Damn i cant say this enough...Thanks all finnish veterans who kept out nation free of these animals called Russians. If we only would have been a bit more prepared, and a bit more geared. Stalin would have been eating finnish steel for breakfest=(
Marauder115 1 year ago
@Svyatogor51 typical mongoloid tool not understanding the losses of war.
leeho98 1 year ago
@Svyatogor51 To bad Finland killed 10 times as many ruskis as the russians did with the fins ;) FUCK RUSSIA, GO FINLAND !
btsimonsen 1 year ago
@Svyatogor51 It was a military victory but a political defeat for Finland.
The Finnish armed forces were fighting until the truce came to power, and it never surrendered. Also, there was no Soviet occupation. However, due the lack of foreign support, we were forced to sign a harsh peace treaty. After all, the western contries were unable to do anything meaningful, Germany was allied with USSR and the other Northern countries refused to form a defencealliance with Finland.
Arkticus 1 year ago
@Svyatogor51 what victory??? DEFENCIVE VICTORY IM STILL SPEAKING AS A FINN NOT BLOODY RUSSIAN and im proud from the outcome from the war
juispurg 1 year ago
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whythewar1 1 year ago
@Svyatogor51 @Svyatogor51 Your saying that 100,000 men against 1.5 million, who kill one million with only losing forty thousand of there own lost? They may have lost tiny parts of their country but they still won
whythewar1 1 year ago 3
@Svyatogor51 Defeated? Then tell me when Finland was a part of the Soviet union. Never, you damn ruskies just cant admit that you failed on your mission to invade finland.
MikeRFIN 1 year ago 2
@Svyatogor51 next time you write a comment, please don't refer to the Soviet Union as SU. Finland is "Suomi" in Finnish and this makes your referencing confusing. Plus, every knows the abbreviation for the Soviet Union is USSR(United Soviet Socialist Republic) so it makes me question just how much you know about the topic.
nflfabfonz 1 year ago
@Svyatogor51 The Soviets had taken over the entire northern countries where Finland would have given up. Finland won, and so was allowed to retain autonomy.
editys1 1 year ago
well.. these days if there would be a war with finland and ruskies, it would be really fukt up.
if they even spot a fart-gas from the forrest of finland they would send few nuclear spears.
HarhaStobe 1 year ago
Paras video ikinä kuvaamaan Suomen rankkaa ja veristä taistoa itse pirua vastaan!!!
The best video ever to tell the bloodiest war against the devil himself !!!
PS. Sorry if my English language is little bad but i hope you still know what I mean
Whitetiger1942 1 year ago
Красиво
vikdon1 1 year ago
Casualties ratio 1:20 - Finnish scored!! Bravo!!
currishev 1 year ago
Brave nation!
Labrador316 1 year ago
ancestors of finns are both german and uralic
11vivisection11 1 year ago
By the way... Finland lost that war, you scumbag. I'm Finnish.
iBaNezRG95 1 year ago
@iBaNezRG95 you are wrong, i am also finnish, it was a so called fraud win
bandieandie 1 year ago