How Bought Is The Republican Party? - David Sirota w/ Cenk on MSNBC

[dockclerk1]

Had to check out this site just for the peculiar last names. That aside, I just want to say that if you are not rolling in the dough, you are committing financial suicide by voting for the GOP. Not a freaking liberal, but want my 2 year old grandson to have a chance to rise up on his own merits, not based on if his parents are old money Ivy League tools. The middle class is being destroyed by these wankers, and I advocate voting third party to vaporize the existing system. Use your mind.

[dockclerk1]

Had to check out this site just for the peculiar last names. That aside, I just want to say that if you are not rolling in the dough, you are committing financial suicide by voting for the GOP. Not a freaking liberal, but want my 2 year old grandson to have a chance to rise up on his own merits, not based on if his parents are old money Ivy League tools. The middle class is being destroyed by these wankers, and I advocate voting third party to vaporize the existing system. Use your mind.

[Masonsky123]

No it not hard to know if they are 80, 90 , or 100 percent bought. they vote in 100 percent blocks, so they are 100 percent bought.

[dizzymasekela]

The U.S. is turning into such a shithole. We got Issa, an arsonist and car-jacker, investigating wrong-doing? We are fucked.

[quickieSS]

Obama is a traitor to his claim. What a fucking joke.  Boy he sure did trick all of us. What an asshole. The people are trying to improve things, but are being cock blocked by corporation. What a dickhead that guy is.

[310sucks]

america is a free market, so I'm not surprised its government is too.

[normalais]

@310sucks Government bought by corporations equals fascism and a corporate dictatorship, not free market.

[jimmycrackedcorn226]

@normalais Governments bought by corporations is a natural result of the "free market." Players in a market want power, and will do all things within their ability to gain that power. If they're allowed to get that power, then they will do so.

[mrafaeldie]

@frictionrx5 ratings have never been higher for MSNBC.

[1Mastermind1990]

@frictionRx5 you sound hurt. butt hurt

[Richardgwm]

Obama never fights for anything.

[EcrossH]

Fuck big business. They are worse than big government by a LONG SHOT.

[saumacus]

"If" the Dems roll over? There's no "if" about that.

[MercenaryNL]

@saumacus

Update for you. Dems did fold on EPA. So fail, this is our government.

[hellshade2]

though i applaud showing who is and is'nt bought this particular vid is a bit one sided because if anyone thinks it's only republican politicians that are bought then i have a bridge in brooklyn to sell you.

all politicians are bought to a greater or lesser degree,hell some of em may even still be trying to do the job they were elected to but for the most part they are all bought and sold by big business.

[Ex0dus111]

@hellshade2 True, but the republicans take it to another level.

[Scipio2021]

@hellshade2 I know it's not only the Republicans. However:

There are a good chunk of Democrats that attempt to address the issues and implement reforms in behalf on what's best for the American people.

The Republican party (with very few exceptions) are totally owned by rich and powerful self serving lobby groups and act much like a cancer. Many that say "but..democrats suck too" only say this so less time is spent talking about Republican failure, corruption and incompetence.

[hellshade2]

@Scipio2021 well i don't only say it not to talk about republican failure scipio, the democrats suck for a number of reasons and while in some instances many of them do try to help americans they have no backbone,no balls whatsoever. republicans get in thier face and they back down.obama too. he might as well be republican because he folds like a paper tiger all the damn time. and if you don't think dems are bought out by corporations and lobbyists too your delusional...

[Scipio2021]

@hellshade2 Glad to know you don't think I'm delusional because I agree with everything you said.

I've been a strong advocate of a Democrat running against Obama in 2012 for the very reasons you stated.

[Scipio2021]

@hellshade2 I would also like to point out that when a group like the GOP is virtually all owned by self serving lobby groups, they're much like a cancer. They need to be voted out of existence.

Nothing anyone can say about Democrats will change the fact that the GOP is a destructive entity and cares nothing about America's future. You can not dispute this.

[durhamdf]

@hellshade2 Yeah but if you look at statistical analysis, the vast majority of donationsfrom large corporations goes to Republicans. Yes, the vast amjority of donations from unions go to democrats but there are two differences. 1. union donations are asmall fraction of the donations coming from corporate treasuries. 2. Unions actual ARE representative! All of the money they spend comes from member dues who elect them to represent the interests of those members. (contd)

[durhamdf]

@hellshade2 (contd) Corporate donations come DIRECTLY from corporate treasuries. This means that the owners of these companies (usually public so usually the share holders) are having their money spent by the executives without their consent on things that don't necessarily benefit those owners. So YES there is a huge difference, Republicans are bought by the extremely wealthy at the top, Democrats are bought by Unions who represent the average attitudes of the workers they represent...

[1tofallen]

David Sirota sounds way different on the radio then he does on tv.

[YOURINQUIRER]

Hey, must be the money!

[MarmaladeINFP]

I just don't understand how people keep voting for these corrupt politicians. They don't even try to hide their corruption. Someone like Boehner is well known to have passed out lobbyist checks and it just seems to make him more popular. It's not like all Republicans are completely ignorant. I can only explain it by assuming many average Republicans want a corrupt govt. But why?

[marsCubed]

@MarmaladeINFP.

When Reagan was defeated, in obscurity, GOP formed 'think'-tanks which established big business funding in exchange for deregulation that later trashed our economies.

When Bush lost.. massive defeat, they merged piles of shit with far-right & openly KKK thugs. It was all the support they had.

LIES. conspiracy & bigotry is what they do now.

Why is like Egypt, paid creeps. divide & rule gives them power & $. their actual policies are scams. so they scapegoat regular working people.

[MarmaladeINFP]

@marsCubed But what do you think about the point I brought up? Do you think the average Republican is ignorant of what politicians like Issa and Boehner do? If the Tea Party hates corruption so much, why aren't they protesting this type of thing? I understand that politicians want power and money. That is understandable. But I just don't get why the average conservative stays loyal to the GOP. What does the average conservative think they are gaining?

[marsCubed]

@MarmaladeINFP Why are republicans republican?

Many reasons. As complex as a political argument sometimes, or as simple as not realizing that they just gave the ultra rich a tax-cut.

Two main reasons are alienation and history.

Some still see others as not worthy, cynical about humanity & are afraid, so cover that with bravado and even selfish cruelty, then it becomes like tradition or something.

idk. Hope they saw Egypt & understand.. it's all just people, some now hopeful for a better world.

[TheNewzbreak]

@ecwaufisxtreme what a joke!

[dsquaredmlg]

@ecwaufisxtreme shut the fuck up cunt

[cne08]

@ecwaufisxtreme. Sarah Palin CAN'T COMPLETELY PURGE and ROOT OUT all the corporate corruption out of gov't and purify the GOP and gov't out of this cancerous taint. That's because she's one of the most bought politicians ever just like the GOP, RepubliCONS and Tea Party. All of them are bought by the rich.

[njabulani]

I like how he says the EPA may be in trouble IF the president backs down. OF COURSE he's gonna back down. He's Obama, thats what he does. A wolf in sheep's clothing.

[TheNewzbreak]

@njabulani you mean a sheep in wolves clothing

[CooperLordOfAll]

100%~!!!!!~!~!~!~!~!!!!

eff the repubs.

[fenderboy88]

As George Carlin said the people of America have 'owners'',both parties are ''fascists'' with the Democrats being the most ''fascist'' because they believe they know whats best for people.

As Woodrow Wilson said ''the essence of progresivism ought to require each individual to marry thier interests to the state'' so in other words concepts like individuality means nothing to leftists.

[kazooga1234]

@fenderboy88 the democrats arent fascist obama is just a republican

[fenderboy88]

@kazooga1234 You can argue that Obama is a Republican in the sense that his foreign policy isnt that different to Bushes Neocon agenda.

Obama isnt a marxist but he is definetely a ''corporatist'',his new health care bill is full of special interests even Howard Dean said he is against it

[kazooga1234]

@fenderboy88 corporist = republican and cenk has proven many times that obama is to the right of reagan hence him being a republican as well

[bighugejake]

@fenderboy88 I disagree. First of all, in Wilson's day, Progressivism had a very different meaning. I also think that individuality gets it's best go in a system that doesn't allow people to be swept into poverty and funds innovation, so long as the people agree with what this funding should go to. It is, of course, not a perfect, or even necessarily always correct system. But it is the way that promotes people and human rights rather than calculations and profits. IMO

[fenderboy88]

What different meaning did progressivism have under Wilson?......if you look at Wilsons record on civil liberties you would know that it was awful.

He said that he wanted America into WW1 because he wanted to ''Redeem the world'',he may of had good intentions but his record on Wart is so bad he makes Bush look a peaceful hippy.......LOL

[restlesspride666]

@fenderboy88 Out of your ass.

[kazooga1234]

ha bisky upload

[CooperLordOfAll]

@kazooga1234 itll catch one man. some day

[fenderboy88]

Both political parties are bought and contrary to popular belief both parties want to grow government but just in different ways to each other.

The Democrats believe in a government that will watch over you like a nanny .Democrats have a paternalistic view of government while Republicans believe in ''policing the world'' and wiretapping people with the Partiot Act.

[fonkymaster]

Ok think about it like this. If you buy a whore, they do what you pay for. The same goes for senators. That is why we must put them on trial for political prostitution! Ever heard of this new virus called Swine Communism, or the Privatiphilis?

[dsquaredmlg]

first bitches

[CooperLordOfAll]

@dsquaredmlg BLAST!