Beethoven 3rd Symphony (2/5); 1st-2nd movements; Bernstein

[renato45222]

@mahlerite. Chi si fa chiamare così dovrebbe amare, oltre alle letture mahleriane di Lenny, del quale è evidente che sei giustamente estimatrice/estimatore, quelle letteralmente sublimi di Karajan: la Quarta, la Quinta, la Sesta, la Nona.

[gigeorge17371]

@koyunbaba73 Humanity is made up of individuals. Some achieve greatness, some don't. Some achieve evil, some don't. Humanity is capable of greatness just as Individuals are capable of evil. Humanity is what ended Auschwitz, a creation of one mans evil, surely? Beethoven wrote the Eroica symphony over a series of years. Possibly as long as it took Humanity to prevail over the evils of the second world war.

Now shut up and listen.

[Hobitman62]

Oh, my ancestor....

[vapourphaze]

There is other good music, but nothing compares to the true beauty of this kind of music.

[MrGidderz]

I just realised that the 2nd movement is the piece used for Bismark in Civilization IV - not very accurate Sid Meires

[marianoarenaza]

2 PEOPLES ARE NOT PEOPLES

[Johlies]

I'm 21 and I despise Beethoven. He, thus, makes it a point that anything I listen to composed by him I fall aptly in love with. This symphony is included.

[angela44ize]

Sublime, awesome, endlessly fascinating Beethoven 3rd Sym (2/5); 1st-2nd Mvts. Historically profoundly significant, Eroica remains powerful, beautiful & a priceless legacy of Brilliant Giant, God-like Ludwig van Beethoven...Maestro Leonard Berstein powerfully conducts & the musicians playing the oboe & other wind instruments as well as Strings par excellance put feelings & thought into art...Thank you very kindly!!

[klpillow23]

Why do people come on to these videos and post smug comments like," wow im 16 and I cant believe I like this or its weird I listen to this and im only 12" when no one cares. Next time someone feels the need to let the world know how different they are because they listen to classical music please remember your being a smug douche nozzle.

[lindzyIsAwesome]

@klpillow23 most people that age listen to gaga crap, the few that don't are the only ones that appreciate true art

[franklywright]

@lindzyIsAwesome the edge of glory is an excellent POPULAR piece; you should listen to it



[bobbybob188]

@lindzyIsAwesome Thank you :)

[lindzyIsAwesome]

@klpillow23 by the way, how old are you?most machure adults don't post stuff like that

[JimmyWhiffler]

@lindzyIsAwesome Most adults can also spell "mature". 

[Elle11]

@klpillow23 So true, so true. And I think 'smug douche nozzle' might just be the best phrase I've ever read hahaha.

[eatmetoday23]

2 dislikes! I can't imagine why, unless they're deaf.

[thebrowniesaur22]

@eatmetoday23 that is so ironic

[nogveelove]

People think Mozart is the best, because he was a child prodigy and all of that, but actually Beethoven is a WHOLE LOT better than Mozart. Compare this symphony (3rd symphony aka Eroica) to one of Mozarts. Much better. And then remember Beethoven was deaf. LOADS BETTER now, right?

[serialkiller1990]

@nogveelove

Now, thats is what people think its one of the reasons that people who actually know music think often of Mozart as best, and your rationalizing your opinion, by categorizing the people which think Mozart is the best as incompetent and admiring him for something other then his music.

The XIX century was a century of Beethoven fascination and Mozart was almost forgotten. XX century brought a rediscovery of Mozart.

[serialkiller1990]

@nogveelove

As much as it is inspiring how he fought and lived with a condition so unbearable for his profession, and composed such great music.

The fact that you cant really see diminishment in the after he did go deaf suggests the impact was not severe. Some argue he may lost some of his sense of time, some that the trauma made his music better.

On the other hand if Beethoven died (like Mozart) in age of 35 there would be only 3 symphonies.

[nogveelove]

I never get sick of the 2nd movement.

[bluebirdchat101]

about 2/3 of the population listens 2 2days music wat kind of world r we living in if beethoven was alive 2day i think he will kill himself due 2 how crappy 2days music sounds

[kleineschutter]

@bluebirdchat101 I disagree, if you know where to look and how to appreciate the people behind it then you'd find a lot nice stuff.

Look for people who actually want to make art or something commercial, you'll notice easily enough.

[serialkiller1990]

@bluebirdchat101

People did not listen to the same kind of things as they do now.

But then you needed to know how to write down music those days.

And many composers also enjoyed simpler, less elevated music, your just a hater.

[serialkiller1990]

@serialkiller1990

I mean they did, in general. A similar, simple music.

[flylotusfly]

Not to be mean, but nobody cares how old you are, except perhaps your mom. This is great music and the age of the listener doesn't change that nor does anonymously posting your age here prove anything.

[ThePhilosorpheus]

It blew my mind, it´s overwhelming!

[graffitisank]

I have to admit, I don't know much about music (except some years of guitar lessons that I ve taken) but I find all of beethoven's symphonies perfect. I just feel kind of strange cause all of you who enjoy that kind of music know so many things about it..

[kennydinoboy]

Beautiful oboe solo

[ManlySlut]

<3 2nd movement

[777wallaby777]

beethoven a crée des oeuvres merveilleuse, et quand c'est si bien conduit, ça devient génial!

[thecursedfly]

06:05 feels like a herd of horses following your guide.. *shivers*

[EDP8278]

@jcalli66 Yes. I did hear of that somwhere. You know, that's probably got the idea that Beethoven included a funeral march for Napoleon.

[Kennychan222]

this song makes me to fight against the hardship! And show my Pirde! HEroic song

[morristercode]

Two words: thank you

[EDP8278]

@jcalli66 Yes. Knowing the history of Beethoven and his reputation that would be more of his suit. I was always taught it was for Napoleon. Learn something new everyday. Thanks.

Elsa

[jcalli66]

@EDP8278 - Should have mentioned that when Beethoven was composing it, it was originally to be dedicated to Napoleon, who Beethoven was originally a great admirer of. But when Napoleon appointed himself Emperor in 1802-03, Beethoven angrily changed his mind, saying "So - he is like all the rest of them" (meaning all of the other European kings/despots of the time) and dedicated it to the 'memory of a heroic man' or words to that effect.

[EDP8278]

@jcalli66 Yes. I did hear of that. That's maybe where I got the idea of the funeral march. 

[serrotful]

pretty thought provoking, good when writing essays

[TheAbyri]

Beethoven was & still is the shit(:

Love him & his great talents

[reidrocks1]

I love this kind of music, but the majority of people in the city im from are always listening to techno and stuff like that, and it sucks because they think im the one with a bad taste of music!

[IsThisSumBattleToads]

@reidrocks1

Ignorance is bliss. Absolutely.

They don't want to face music which deals with the hardships and struggles of life. Let them enjoy their pretty, little, electronic music.

[EDP8278]

Okay, starting at 6:56. Check it out.

[jcalli66]

@EDP8278 --not to nitpick but it certainly is not a funeral march for Napoleon. Its a funeral march for all the French soldiers who died in Napoleon's wars, who were pawns in Napoleon's relentless lust for more-and-more power and conquest. It gets my vote as one of the most magnificent pieces of music ever written - it was heard a lot after 9/11/2001 and JFK's assassination.

[EDP8278]

@jeri4579 What are you talking about, this Bernstein! He expected nothing but perfection. Just listen closely, nothing but the best...

[EDP8278]

I don't know if you care to know because most of you are all very young but (I'm not good at punctuating the minuets or seconds on here) but there's a thing in Classical Music called movements. In the second movement that's close to the end of this cut of the piece there's a funeral march for the death of Napoleon. Hope you like it.

[EDP8278]

Ahhh yes, the brillance of Beethoven...

[19GirlBad]

Im 19 and the music is great.

[AnonymousWhitePerson]

Your insults are as redoubtable as cat feces.

[li0nsl0ver]

@AnonymousWhitePerson They weren't insults, just simply putting you in your place

[li0nsl0ver]

(continuing off my earlier comment) scratched out the words "Bonaparte Symphony" so violently he left huge holes and gashes in the paper and retitled the symphony, the "Eroica Symphony", I love it haha.

[li0nsl0ver]

I love the story behind this symphony. It was orignally going to be called the Bonaparte Symphony, for Napoleon Bonaparte, the French revolutionary. Beethoven really admired Napoleon, he liked the fact that Napoleon was going to establish a sort of democracy similar to ours once he finished the conquest in France. But then once Beethoven heard that Napoleon had crowned himself king, and emperor of France, Beethoven went over to his finished score and sratched out the words "Bonaparte Symphony"

[li0nsl0ver]

@AnonymousWhitePerson I really hope your not trying to edit Beethoven's work, because I'm quite positive your not even close to the level of musical genious he was at, none of us are.

[li0nsl0ver]

@AnonymousWhitePerson Thats not a sonata, that's a chord progression.........

[AnonymousWhitePerson]

This symphony makes me want to drown in a pool of my own blood and feces.

[li0nsl0ver]

@AnonymousWhitePerson Go ahead, nobody is going to care really, if you think your better than Beethoven, or have the right to even think about critiquing his work, your absolutely, undoubtedly and unequivocally wrong.

[AnonymousWhitePerson]

@li0nsl0ver,

This symphony would sound so much better like this:

Dmaj, Fmin, C#maj, Amin, Gmaj, Emin

Good huh?

[li0nsl0ver]

@AnonymousWhitePerson No, its quite terrible really

[BalzatNo5]

the Heroic Symphony the book it so cool when yourlistening to this!1!

i love Beethoven!

[boikotera]

Nothing could describe Napoleon like this music does...(L)

[jeri4579]

Please tell me I'm wrong, but is that a flat note I hear at 6:17 into the video? When the b flat trumpets play the main theme?

[funkyalto]

Probably my favorite composer of all time

[oropesinoa]

Beethoven GENIAL !!! como siempre. esta version tiene sonido EXELENTE !!! saludos de Peru.

[Valhalla1756]

Bernstein has his fingerprints all over this one.

[sireofzelda]

yeah he does.

[TibeusPhillips]

I think it's Mahler's

[Valhalla1756]

WTF are you talking about?

[jeri4579]

LOL have you been living in a cave somewhere?

[polymath7]

He always does...

[IsThisSumBattleToads]

@Valhalla1756

That's because Bernstein was the man...

There's a reason that European orchestras (ESPECIALLY Germany) wouldn't let him conduct.

They didn't like the fact that an American was the best conductor alive. (Ooh.... I went there... Do something about it.)

[TheJaHoli]

@IsThisSumBattleToads Your damn right there, I can't really listen anyone else conduct beethove,! It's just not the same!

[SilverEyedVampire]

@Valhalla1756

Bernstein usually does a very good job of translating these pieces to as close as he thinks the original might've sounded when the composer did it himself. He's good, right?

[kleineschutter]

@SilverEyedVampire if you mean what he believed beethoven felt, then I agree.Can't imagine the orchestra's of that time to play it the way beethoven felt it, but I can be wrong of course.

It's just that I remember something like the orchestras of that time sidereading most of the music they get to play, as people wanted to listen to new, progressive music.

[eatmetoday23]

@kleineschutter Please do not forget that Beethoven used different metronome markings than Leinsdorf. Beethoven's original metronome marking's third symphony is here on You Tube, under Orchestre Revolutionaire et Romantique conducted by Sir John Eliot Gardiner. The first time I ever heard it, was Leinsdorf, 40 years ago. Beethoven's metronome markings change the timing of the instruments a bit, and is only slightly different.

[MassEffectFanatic]

Its weird. I'm 18 and I never thought I'd like this, but I do.

[AlexanderW94]

Me too, I love Beethoven's music.

[crzyaznchick812]

Age has NOTHING to do with it. ;)

[justicewithasword]

I have never found music that can instigate the complete outpour of my emotions, classical and romantic has been my life since I was just 16, and now im 20. Age will discern such perfection regardless.

[sargentmajor]

Oh man 4 years how much time >_>

[Xargxes]

@MassEffectFanatic 15 here... Although the first time I listened to this while knowing it was Beethoven was at the age of 4 and I still love the Heroica

[magmas26]

@MassEffectFanatic watch da movie "Clockwork Orange"

[ultraikki]

@MassEffectFanatic And what's the matter? i'm 15 and i like this..

[Impalla11x]

Amen

[rodrigocientista]

@MassEffectFanatic there is nothing weird in having good taste, it is not because you are 18 you need to listen to garbage "lick me like a lollypop" all day long :)

[Impalla11x]

Lmao

[LtSurge659]

@MassEffectFanatic

Wouldn't be so weird if more of our peers enjoyed it as much as us.

[tsfpvideochannel1]

@LtSurge659 Couldn't agree more.

[monkydogthingy]

@MassEffectFanatic age shouldn't matter if the music you are listening to is this beautiful

[Deltonax]

@MassEffectFanatic

You are a rockstar for 2 reasons:

1st) You are 100% correct!

2nd) You are a Mass Effect Fanatic, which may be one of the best games ever made!

[Kuseikos]

@MassEffectFanatic Music has no age requirements :)

[gwpotgieter]

@MassEffectFanatic It's weird. I'm 14 and I never thought I'd like this, but I do too.

[jaswantn149]

@MassEffectFanatic I'm 19 and I like this!!

[jaswantn149]

@MassEffectFanatic I'm 19 and I like this!!

[pettisco]

@jaswantn149 wooooo! It's fantastic..good for you

[fadethetrade]

@MassEffectFanatic It's the best period in music, early romanticism. 1799 thru about 1850.In the 1830's,woman masturbated and reached orgasms sitting under the piano while chopin played his ballads and scherzo's!The stories are true!

[serialkiller1990]

@MassEffectFanatic

Wow, fascinating.

[nahedh]

@MassEffectFanatic Think you're confused? I'm 15.

[whneo97]

@lindzyIsAwesome Think you're confused? I'm thirteen :D

[marianoarenaza]

@MassEffectFanatic this is ¡THE SOUND OF HUMANITY!, you must like it. if some one don't like it... we can't be that shure about his inteligent.

[blacespace]

@marianoarenaza Have you ever read Theodor Adorno? If not, please do.

[koyunbaba73]

@marianoarenaza This is the sound of how humanity OUGHT to be, or if you will, a ROMANTICIZED notion of humanity, hence the name of the period. The problem is that music like this gives credence to the fictitious notion that humanity is somehow magnificent or inspirational, when in fact humanity is a cesspool.

[marianoarenaza]

@koyunbaba73 la humanidad es buena, maravillosa, noble y digna. como lo es esta obra musical. pero el hombre como individuo no siempre es todas estas cosas juntas

[thenamesfrancisco]

@koyunbaba73 humanity is magnificent and inspirational your negative view on life will handicap you for the rest of your life

[koyunbaba73]

@thenamesfrancisco Tell me, which is the most magnificent aspect of humanity, Auschwitz or Gulags? Humanity is a cesspool, however individuals may be magnificent. But your comment astonishes me for another reason: that you suggest my opinion is negative, or that it will handicap me. On the contrary, it is precisely because I know of the tragic nature of humanity, that I look for what works in creating good societies, and what makes men better men. You're living a lie, a dream of your making.

[thenamesfrancisco]

You focus on the negative aspects of humanity to prove your point, completely ignoring the acheivements humankind has persevered to reach. This world can be heaven or hell its up to you to decide. Open your eyes!!!

[koyunbaba73]

@thenamesfrancisco You are mistaken. Beethoven was an individual, not humanity. Individuals have achieved great things. Humanity unfortunately is the negative sum of its parts. Tell me something that humanity has achieved.

[thenamesfrancisco]

@koyunbaba73 are you serious?! at what point did i say beethoven was "humanity"? you expect me to TELL YOU something positive humanity has achieved because you can't think of anything yourself? Or is it that you refuse to think of one because then your whole argument would be invalid? whatever the case there is no further point in arguing with you because I can tell you are too stubborn to see things any other way than your own.

[koyunbaba73]

@thenamesfrancisco I'll miss your intellect, but I'll get over it.

[SatchmoSings]

@koyunbaba73 Wow! You made a great point!

Do you mind if I steal it and quote it at people?

[whneo97]

@MassEffectFanatic No it's not weird. Those who never thought they'd like this, and they still didn't after listening, are weird.

[mwpxy]

by which I mean conceived.

[rosettastoned451]

:) haha

[mwpxy]

Brilliant, this man has performed miracles. One of the best symphonies ever concieved.