Question(s): When did Obama's father entered Hawaii? INS(in Hawaii) should have a record of Obama's father whereabouts! This is a possible way of going around the privacy issue(if there is one)! YES,let's end this NONSENSE....once and for all!!! Let INS present documentation or a record of when Obama's father entered HAWAII !! Unless,INS has a privacy issue on this as well??? and how many times he entered Hawaii and/or another state?
Question(s): When did Obama's father entered Hawaii? INS(in Hawaii) should have a record of Obama's father whereabouts! This is a possible way of going around the privacy issue(if there is one)! YES,let's end this NONSENSE....once and for all!!! Let INS present documentation or a record of when Obama's father entered HAWAII !! Unless,INS has a privacy issue on this as well??? and how many times he entered Hawaii and/or another state?
Whilst we do not yet know where Obama was born, the nationality of his father is irrelevant if Obama was American born. The USSC has established that those born legally in America are natural born citizens.
His Indonesian citizenship is also irrelevant. Maureen O'Hara established the right of Americans to maintain dual citizenship.
What's relevant is his place of birth. The only one who said they were there said it was in Kenya. Perhaps his birth certificate says otherwise. Who knows?
You are talking about invasion and that is illegal in every country on earth. Make the country you are from a decent place to live, don't come here and demand rights you never had here. You have the right to LEAVE. DO SO YOU ARE A TRAITOR.
neither of your parents need to be a USA citizen at the time of your birth for you to be USA citizen as long as you are born on USA soil; the only time that this rule does not apply is if your parents were certain members of a foreign service staff of another country. That is why the so called "anchor babies" of illegal aliens are such an issue, because they get automatic citizenship just by being born on USA soil.
Even so, that does not create the special citizenship of "natural born citizen". Both parents of a "natural born citizen" are citizens themselves by birth.
The whole point is so that the president would not have another allegiance whatsoever but have only the best interest of the US at heart.
I hope you understand that a child of two illegal aliens that was born on USA soil is able to run for president. "Natural born" is not defined in the constitution as any special state of being other than to have born on USA soil. The thing about your parents needing to have been citizens is no where in the constitution; if it is show me where it is stated.
The founding fathers patterned our government after Vattel's Law of Nations. It defines NATURAL BORN as those born in a nation with both parents being citizens. You might be able to make a case for the child born with only his father being a citizen because it also says, "those children NATURALLY follow the condition of their fathers." The Naturalization Act of 1790 extended the definition of NATURAL BORN to foreign born children of two U.S. citizens. I can't find any redefinitions since then.
Actually the Congress did an excellent job of defining "natural born citizen" when making a provision for allowing John McCain to run for president. In fact, Obama supported it.
As the framers of the Constitution has excellent education at the time, it was common knowledge what this term meant, except for Chester A. Arthur, there has never been any question of any president but Obama.
courag1, are you saying that a child born of two illegal alien parent and that child has a USA birth certificate, is not eligible to be the president of the United states? If so, how do you support that finding and what case law do you have to back you up?
If you can show the deed stating that this country belongs to you, I will get out with no problem.
As I can tell from your post, you only have the ability to speak out of your back side and you can show nothing to back up the crap that you are saying.
what an inflammatory view... Think. If you're a good grandparent in 1961 hawaii and you have the chance to give your grandson a shot at US citizenship by filling out a form and paying a fee then you'd likely do it to afford your new grandson a better life, education, etc...
The fact that O ended up all the way to the presidency is just how life worked out for him. That part is likely a manifestation of the American dream. Just show the original Presidaent Obama so this country can move on.
His grandparents in Hawai'i knew that one day this Kenyan born mixed race person would one day run for president of the USA so they quietly entered the birth information at Hawaii Health Services and placed ads in the Hawaiian newspapers. The plan of the Kenyan government is to annex the USA as a colony and enslave all white evangelicals.
LOL. I rarely watch the news, but I recently watched a news commentator just for giggles and grins; and he was using the 1961 newspaper announcements to try to suggest birthers actually believed it was a conspiracy planned back in 1961. LOL. Everybody knows that if someone actually believes it was a conspiracy planned back in 1961, then it's time for a psychiatist!
You are an idiot. The news papers got their birth info from the hospitals. The grandparents registered Obama's birth there and the news just put it in the paper as they always did when they posted registered births.
Prior to 1980, Hawaii still used Territory Act 96 which allowed foreigners to get COLB's as well. Just about anyone could do it. It is this reason why Obama's half sister born and raised in Indonesia has a COLB from Hawaii as well. If she wanted one after 1980 she would have been given a COFB. It is no secret that the Hawaiian COLB means nothing concrete. When I try to explain this to anti-questioners (aka anti-birthers), they usually just get pissed and call me a liar without looking it up.
You're right. Dr. Orly explained Hawaiian statute 338 in this video (v=WNHIR1NcuL4). At the 5:30 point she shows the box on the Hawaiian birth certificate that says "county, state, or FOREIGN COUNTRY."
Don't forget that the "forged" birth certificate was an image that had been altered by a hacker on Dr. Taitz' website. The actual document did not have the encoded jokes. Dr. Taitz still plans to submit the document to the court for authentification. Right now investigators from World Net Daily are in Kenya trying to ascertain whether the document could be real, and for some reason Hillary is there too. Hmmmm.
But I agree there is something fishy with the numbers you mention in your video.
Thanks Gregg. I had read that Dr. Orly had accused the Obama collaborators of giving her a fake Kenyan BC to discredit her. I guess that was wrong. There's a lot of lies to sort through in the quest for the truth.
Obama may have been born in Kenya but his birth was registered in Hawaii after his actual birth in Kenya. Thus, Obama would have higher Certificate number. The twins got their number because they were actually born in Hawaii and recieved them at the instant of their births. Obama';s # was delayed because he was registered after his actual birth in Kenya. It is quite a compelling mystery that the State of Hawaii has not be able to provide an answer to.
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Question(s): When did Obama's father entered Hawaii? INS(in Hawaii) should have a record of Obama's father whereabouts! This is a possible way of going around the privacy issue(if there is one)! YES,let's end this NONSENSE....once and for all!!! Let INS present documentation or a record of when Obama's father entered HAWAII !! Unless,INS has a privacy issue on this as well??? and how many times he entered Hawaii and/or another state?
cris750 1 year ago
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cris750 1 year ago
Well at least a Mexican would have opened his mother's womb on the right continent. LOL.
childrenoftheway 2 years ago
@childrenoftheway The last who laugh... Obama's long form bc ta da! LOL!!
clarity023 10 months ago
Whilst we do not yet know where Obama was born, the nationality of his father is irrelevant if Obama was American born. The USSC has established that those born legally in America are natural born citizens.
His Indonesian citizenship is also irrelevant. Maureen O'Hara established the right of Americans to maintain dual citizenship.
What's relevant is his place of birth. The only one who said they were there said it was in Kenya. Perhaps his birth certificate says otherwise. Who knows?
christianpatriot125 2 years ago
You are talking about invasion and that is illegal in every country on earth. Make the country you are from a decent place to live, don't come here and demand rights you never had here. You have the right to LEAVE. DO SO YOU ARE A TRAITOR.
courag1 2 years ago
neither of your parents need to be a USA citizen at the time of your birth for you to be USA citizen as long as you are born on USA soil; the only time that this rule does not apply is if your parents were certain members of a foreign service staff of another country. That is why the so called "anchor babies" of illegal aliens are such an issue, because they get automatic citizenship just by being born on USA soil.
powerone1 2 years ago
Even so, that does not create the special citizenship of "natural born citizen". Both parents of a "natural born citizen" are citizens themselves by birth.
The whole point is so that the president would not have another allegiance whatsoever but have only the best interest of the US at heart.
Obama clearly doesn't.
courag1 2 years ago 2
I hope you understand that a child of two illegal aliens that was born on USA soil is able to run for president. "Natural born" is not defined in the constitution as any special state of being other than to have born on USA soil. The thing about your parents needing to have been citizens is no where in the constitution; if it is show me where it is stated.
powerone1 2 years ago
The founding fathers patterned our government after Vattel's Law of Nations. It defines NATURAL BORN as those born in a nation with both parents being citizens. You might be able to make a case for the child born with only his father being a citizen because it also says, "those children NATURALLY follow the condition of their fathers." The Naturalization Act of 1790 extended the definition of NATURAL BORN to foreign born children of two U.S. citizens. I can't find any redefinitions since then.
childrenoftheway 2 years ago
Actually the Congress did an excellent job of defining "natural born citizen" when making a provision for allowing John McCain to run for president. In fact, Obama supported it.
As the framers of the Constitution has excellent education at the time, it was common knowledge what this term meant, except for Chester A. Arthur, there has never been any question of any president but Obama.
Anchor babies don't equal "natural born".
courag1 2 years ago
courag1, are you saying that a child born of two illegal alien parent and that child has a USA birth certificate, is not eligible to be the president of the United states? If so, how do you support that finding and what case law do you have to back you up?
powerone1 2 years ago
Get the hell out of my country you asshole.
courag1 2 years ago
If you can show the deed stating that this country belongs to you, I will get out with no problem.
As I can tell from your post, you only have the ability to speak out of your back side and you can show nothing to back up the crap that you are saying.
powerone1 2 years ago
Love it!!!
MrRussm02 2 years ago
I wouldn't worry about it I don't believe the states can recover from the economic damage done to cool country for the last 40 years.
1971 Gold backing of the US dollar ended, all world leaders are in on the subversion of the US Constitution.
boots920 2 years ago
what an inflammatory view... Think. If you're a good grandparent in 1961 hawaii and you have the chance to give your grandson a shot at US citizenship by filling out a form and paying a fee then you'd likely do it to afford your new grandson a better life, education, etc...
The fact that O ended up all the way to the presidency is just how life worked out for him. That part is likely a manifestation of the American dream. Just show the original Presidaent Obama so this country can move on.
sureal7551 2 years ago
His grandparents in Hawai'i knew that one day this Kenyan born mixed race person would one day run for president of the USA so they quietly entered the birth information at Hawaii Health Services and placed ads in the Hawaiian newspapers. The plan of the Kenyan government is to annex the USA as a colony and enslave all white evangelicals.
1940jan 2 years ago
LOL. I rarely watch the news, but I recently watched a news commentator just for giggles and grins; and he was using the 1961 newspaper announcements to try to suggest birthers actually believed it was a conspiracy planned back in 1961. LOL. Everybody knows that if someone actually believes it was a conspiracy planned back in 1961, then it's time for a psychiatist!
childrenoftheway 2 years ago
You are an idiot. The news papers got their birth info from the hospitals. The grandparents registered Obama's birth there and the news just put it in the paper as they always did when they posted registered births.
wetweasel56 2 years ago
Prior to 1980, Hawaii still used Territory Act 96 which allowed foreigners to get COLB's as well. Just about anyone could do it. It is this reason why Obama's half sister born and raised in Indonesia has a COLB from Hawaii as well. If she wanted one after 1980 she would have been given a COFB. It is no secret that the Hawaiian COLB means nothing concrete. When I try to explain this to anti-questioners (aka anti-birthers), they usually just get pissed and call me a liar without looking it up.
Shiftfallout 2 years ago
You're right. Dr. Orly explained Hawaiian statute 338 in this video (v=WNHIR1NcuL4). At the 5:30 point she shows the box on the Hawaiian birth certificate that says "county, state, or FOREIGN COUNTRY."
childrenoftheway 2 years ago
Don't forget that the "forged" birth certificate was an image that had been altered by a hacker on Dr. Taitz' website. The actual document did not have the encoded jokes. Dr. Taitz still plans to submit the document to the court for authentification. Right now investigators from World Net Daily are in Kenya trying to ascertain whether the document could be real, and for some reason Hillary is there too. Hmmmm.
But I agree there is something fishy with the numbers you mention in your video.
courtago 2 years ago
Thanks Gregg. I had read that Dr. Orly had accused the Obama collaborators of giving her a fake Kenyan BC to discredit her. I guess that was wrong. There's a lot of lies to sort through in the quest for the truth.
childrenoftheway 2 years ago
Obama may have been born in Kenya but his birth was registered in Hawaii after his actual birth in Kenya. Thus, Obama would have higher Certificate number. The twins got their number because they were actually born in Hawaii and recieved them at the instant of their births. Obama';s # was delayed because he was registered after his actual birth in Kenya. It is quite a compelling mystery that the State of Hawaii has not be able to provide an answer to.
jy22077 2 years ago
If Mr. Obama was born and registered before the twins, how could his registration # be LARGER???,
paulhumber 2 years ago