Love Argerich to death but in all honesty there was something a bit messy and uneven about certain sections. Something a bit too unfocused or too casual.... I dunno, still loved it though, but there are better on YouTube. That Japanese blind guy for instance. Nobuyuki or something the rather from the Van Cliburn competition. His is breathtaking.
@Chakiejan surely not Martha "Messy Uneven Casual Unfocused" Argerich playing in a way that's messy and unfocused? Haha, seriously, at times she seems like the living embodiment of those four words (at least by modern concert pianist standards) which just makes me love her even more.
...the only woman ever to grow a pair of balls...and, here, they are showing...not that she is particularly shy about it...but it is still damn musical...and her legato has better control, is more relaxed than Pollini's...
That RH articulation... I would recognize it anywhere! Every single phrase swells and recedes with such evenness. Jaw-dropping! Remember, Argerich learnt to play these when she was 8!!... I suppose that's what comes of 15 years practice + insurmountable talent!
In term of pure technique, I doubt this performance has ever been equaled by another pianist. The sheer force, speed, and evenness of those extended right-hand arpeggios is nothing short of amazing!!
@Malcolm64 Indeed. And we must remember that this is LIVE playing, from the Chopin Competition. She was 24 and under immense pressure. She won, of course. This is, in my view, one of THE great performances of any Chopin Etude. Technically terrifying, without being at all mechanical.
Das ist die BESTE! die ALLERALLERBESTE version... gott ich sterbe... grossartig! xDDD und so exakt und so ausdrucksvoll und abwechslungsreich! Die einzige der ich auf Anhieb richtig zugehört habe! voller Verzückung! xD
Ich hatte erst vor das Stück selber auch zu spielen... aber wie sollte ich es nach so einer Aufnahme überhaupt wagen!!
Clearly the idea that this can be done too fast does not make any sense, remember what an etude is, don't forget your fundamental definitions, it just has to be expressive and legato. This ferocious approach won her the freaking competition, the rest was a piece of cake. The farts on the jury just could not get this out of their minds, and handed the thing to her. Winning that with a single etude, man!
this is the piece that won her the prestigious Chopin competition! uhhh.. does anyone know if this is on the "1965 legendary recording" released by EMI?
god, she is exquisite. i wouldn't say i am "blinded" by the intensity; certainly it's intense, but the right hand, despite a few little errors, sounds SO beautiful... her dynamism is remarkable here, as usual. to play with such speed and such delicacy... really extraordinary.
She has beautiful technique in the right hand...and speed galore. It's the left hand that seems a little heavy at times. My favorites for the left hand melody are Pollini and Garrick Ohllson.
I am an Argerich fan. Her Rach 3 is the best to me. A marvellous pianist, that has the finger power to bring out all those inner voices.
I've heard countless interpretations of this piece and this certainly made me sit up an take notice. This piece is so notoriously difficult to take it beyond a harmonic progression of arpeggios and give it true musicality. The pianist in this recording has managed, imho, to create a shimmering harp-like texture that it stands quite rightly as a fully-formed piece of music. I, for one, am impressed.
Your knowledge of how to spell "knowledge" isn't that good either. Neither is your English grammar. Now don't post comments on all the videos pretending you know your stuff. Maybe do something useful?
i didnt think i would like this but, she has more musicality than the rest. i would have to say tie between her and arrau. all the others play at one volume basically.
this is the 2nd best op.10-1 out there, the first is Arrau,... for clarity, legato, eveness and speed, and musicality, then Martha's version (this one)
i dont like ashkenazy's. his sound is not so good, and bangs the piano,... the best for me is still Arrau;s (rememebr that it was recorded in the 50's and with litttle pedal !!!) Arrau's sound, as always is marvelous, as well as the legato,....
Well, I tried to find op 10 no 1 by Wild, but it doesn't seem to be on youtube. Anyway, Argerich plays with fantastic right hand clarity considering the speed she is playing at. I was reading that sometimes she doesn't keep the tempo in pieces. I consider her a great pianist, but I don't like her left hand treatment in this one.
She is another speedster though, close to Cziffra. All these concert pianists deserve praise. It's an incredible thing to even reach the level they play at.
she is the best at this tune on youtube, but have you seen her titties?? they're so saggy and unattractive. you have to admit that jamie callum is a much better pin-up for classical, although his cock is small. i saw it last week while training my binoculars on his parents' house when he was staying. i believe he is uncircumsized too. and fairly average in size and girth.
I love Martha, she is fantastic!! And this video is funny because it begins with the score and suddenly appears Argerich giving a smile - "not be impressed...i'm the best anyway" - hahahah
WOW she plays this like she has special effects helping her, which makes it even more amazing. A piano is what you make it, and Martha well... u already know.
Somehow I've never heard this jaw-dropping performance before thanks so much. Very unlike the best of the others I know, and totally Argerich. Wild but controlled, hard but passionate... I'll shut up and listen again..
A few days ago I`ve heard Evgeny Kissin playing this Etude in Vienna! It´s too bad, that there is no recording of Kissins interpretation of Chopin Etudes - but I can tell you HE is really amazing! He uses his unbelievable technique to make a perfekt interpretation. Not like Lang Lang - who only shows off with his technique without intelligence. Argerich is a great pianist - but in my opinion, she plays this Etude too fast. Chopin Etudes are no Cerny Etudes - you need technique AND virtuosity!
May be, but i realy like this reccord by Argerich (on of the best for me), Cziffra and Garick Ohlsson are very goog too, I like when it is play very fast, very legatto and without rubato (To much rubatto in Cziffra performance).... If Alexei Sultanov could be with us may be he make something wonderfull from these piece.. A great pianist too in Chopin. (And of Course Richter, Horowitz, Rubinstein, Hofmann, Angeli...)
@franzl I can believe Kissin would sound great. He is one of my favorite pianists. I've heard him play so many difficult pieces it's not hard to believe he could play the etudes at breakneck speed with the right feeling and smoothness.
Kissin also happens to be a good friend of Argerich.
@franzl Virtuosity means speed. Speed to the mindtwisting level. Talking about technique... pfff hahah. Argerich is recognized as one of the most technical pianists ever. Well, it's your opinion...pff.
Musically, this is the most expressive, imaginative interpretation of this etude I have ever heard. Technically, it's a miracle! Argerich is one of the greatest pianists of all time.
This comment has received too many negative votesshow
Great technique but thats it... very few interesting musical ideas. Music should not be a means to show off technique, technique should be a means to show off the music...
This comment doesn't make a lot of sense to me. I mean, how the hell musical do you have to be to play an ETUDE?! It is a STUDY. It's a piece designed to show off! So, the technique has to be good enough to show off the music, and be enough to bring the music out. This performance is arguably unmatched with that along with everything else.
PS Liebromeistal: in a different case, this comment would work, like if you were talking about some of the stuff, dare I ruffle some feathers, Lang Lang does, or something a noob does. Not this. This is pure class up and down.
I agree with your analysis that all music should display some kind of emotional contrast, however I disagree in saying that this performance does not yield so. I found it very enlightening not only because of her technique but because of the varying colors she produces with different dynamic levels.
These are Chopin's etudes. Part of the reason they are so revolutionary is that they have musical legitimacy, they are not just "studies". They should be played beautifully.
Both Argerich and Cziffra have the same time in this Etude:1:46, which is astounding, considering the clarity in both. Cziffra seems less concerned in "arching" the arpeggios and has several instances of unstable tempo. Not so in Argerich, whose icy sharp articulation is never so much in evidence as here.
Et oui c'est vraiment une belle version (ma favorite avec la version de Cziffra lors d'un échauffement également en vidéo sur youtube à voir : c'est incroyable la manière dont il articule la main droite avec autant d'aisance et de facilité, à le regarder, on à l'impression que cette pièce est facile. :-()
Je la poste en vidéo le jour où je ferai mieux que lui....LOLOLOLOLOL ou que M.ARGERICH.
je regarde ta vidéo, il est tard, mais le temps s'arrête on dirait quand j'écoute martha. J'aime énormément cette étude, et elle la joue tellement bien !!
I am curious as to which notes those might be that she supposedly adds. I love experts! You really said nothing positive and certainly nothing of significance ofr importance at all. My suggestion to you is to shut up until you can play like this.
I've noticed that if a performance is fast and clean, people say that it's "too technical," regardless of how good the sense of line, sound, and phrasing. If a performance is slow and sloppy, people gush about how "musical" it is, even though the technical imperfections detract from the player's ability to convey their musical intent. Technique is a means to an end, but it has to be there. And Chopin writes 176 bpm in the score, so for those who say it's too fast, take it up with Chopin.
@finlayma84 how do you know Chopin said or wanted 176 bpm? Is there any edition that confirms this? Most editions ask for a 210 tempo which is insanely fast, like in this performance.
@tschaikowski Look at ANY edition of the Chopin etudes and you will find your answer. Every single edition I've ever seen, including Paderewski, Henle, Mikuli, Cortot, and Joseffy, indicates 176 bpm. And Argerich's tempo is nowhere near 210; it's about exactly 176. Check your metronome if you don't believe me. It IS true that many people play it slower (Ashkenazy's, for example is around 152). Not that it matters what the PRECISE tempo is: the point is that she plays it superbly.
@finlayma84 That's because if a performance is actually good, people are jealous of it and therefore criticize. If a performance is bad, they sympathise with the musician and therefore praise them.
If a pianist has a "musical mind" but has a technique which prevents them from playing with expression, they are still a bad pianist until their technique develops. Technique, in my opinion, is not only a technical but also a musical matter. If you don't have the technique, expression will not work.
This is after all an etude, meaning "practice, study or excercise." In this sense then, making musical poetry could be an after-thought as the point is to deliberately study and aritculate a particular technical element. (Which Argerich does perfectly)
Yup, that's right.... if this was Czerny. But it is not: it is Chopin. And Chopin composed 27 Concert Études, so, while they are technically challenging and give you the full spectrum of piano technique, they are still music. Take op 10 no 3 as an example...
to crybanshee - fewest soloists can mate technique and expressive playing,speed and touch.Put aside that...personal taste rules,may i suggest you to listen to Gavrilov's rendition ? A good mix of virtuosistic and still expressive playing,
Pollini - 192. Berezovsky (live), Argerich, Ohlsson, Cvetkovic, and no doubt many more all play at 176 or faster. So much for "barely anyone". I do accept your point that the etudes develop specific techniques. I just don't think that is their main purpose. I think they "feature" specific techniques, which will cause you to learn them better if practiced.
Je pense Que G.Cziffra et M Argerich ont donné le meilleur de ce qu'il était possible de faire avec cette étude de Chopin ; tous deux l'abordent différemment mais y apportent ce "petit plus" que je ne retrouve pas chez les autres (grands) pianistes mais c'est un avis très subjectif.
Martha Argerich launched a really innovating new way to interprete Chopin and romantic Composers generally! This interpretation is by far one of the best I've ever heard in my entire life. Martha Argerich is really my favourite pianist... She renewed the old institutional art that piano was since Horowitz!
Anybody who experienced honestly the mechanical challenge to keep relaxed on this etude cannot deny that this performance is that of a pure genius. It has simply an unrivalled musicality, a grace and a mastery in dynamics with no equivalent in my opinion, at such speed. Including Ashkenazy and Richter, so brillant themselves though!
have to agree. I love this piece so much that i had to buy the music. This etude is particularly difficult because you need large hands to facilitate the arpeggieic runs, not to mention maintaining fluidity and effortless grace.
Yes I totally agree that 25/6 and 25/11 should be the most hardest of the etudes. How can you say that 10/1 i is simple? I have already finished learning that and definitely dont think that it is the most simplest of all the etudes! In my opinion 10/5 is the easier etudes compared to the rest (:
Having said all that... I would like to say this is a lovely performance, played with greatness I cant begin to comprehend. Its a gorgeous wild flourish of notes, she is so good Agerich! I can hear the mistakes she makes too, but it does not matter as this is my favourite perfomance now :)
This comment has received too many negative votesshow
Hmm, I don't think you guys understand. This is perhaps the easiest of the Chopin etudes, but what makes this performance unique and amazing is not only the musical and technical prowess she displays here, but more importantly, the fact that this is sight reading. She pretty much won the 7th chopin competition with this defiant sight reading of the piece. That's what makes her interpretation unique.
Y a-t-il plus beau et plus sincère que Chopin ?
xPHYLLISDIETRICHSONx 1 day ago
martha argerich is the best
VHddeus 2 months ago
daring, bravura, and alla Liszt, to whom it was dedicated
much more dynamic and pulse variation than all cited
chrisczajasager 3 months ago
Love Argerich to death but in all honesty there was something a bit messy and uneven about certain sections. Something a bit too unfocused or too casual.... I dunno, still loved it though, but there are better on YouTube. That Japanese blind guy for instance. Nobuyuki or something the rather from the Van Cliburn competition. His is breathtaking.
Chakiejan 4 months ago
@Chakiejan surely not Martha "Messy Uneven Casual Unfocused" Argerich playing in a way that's messy and unfocused? Haha, seriously, at times she seems like the living embodiment of those four words (at least by modern concert pianist standards) which just makes me love her even more.
RH98 4 months ago
it's a perfect esecution!!
francesca8ify 5 months ago
This is completely awesome.
VisioninScience 6 months ago
c beau uhsnipdfinbisubnioauiurubeiuieunbioabnuyuabiouabiurignhfrhnKUHYBIUGVUAKHGIUAIUYUINNIUAHIUIUiuywubiojwuhb tyuiioyiuy
Cathoubinou1 6 months ago
WTF with the gender comments.....close your eyes.....what's male or female about the pianist?????
shakychevy 6 months ago
...the only woman ever to grow a pair of balls...and, here, they are showing...not that she is particularly shy about it...but it is still damn musical...and her legato has better control, is more relaxed than Pollini's...
fredericfranc 6 months ago
HOLY SHIT
812holy 7 months ago 2
questa è la migliore esecuzione di questo studio! Fantastica!!
francesca8ify 7 months ago
why isn't there a video of this.... oh my god, what a treat it would be to see those hands flying across the keyboard to produce such dazzling sound
pianofan24 8 months ago
différent but nice too :-)
givemetime123 9 months ago
another version of this song : watch?v=UkApPrdfW_U
bubu102 9 months ago
C'est vraiment une déesse du clavier. Quelle musique. Chopin serait trop fier.
louismagie 10 months ago 5
semplicemente MAGNIFICO!!!
letyrinik 10 months ago 2
This is why she won the Chopin competition! I can just imagine all other contestants listening her play this piece and go, "crap, I'm screwed."
MrYou2ber 11 months ago 2
Martha and my mother were good friends ! This perfect version makes me cry...
zorbazig 11 months ago 2
perfect®
sttar1982 11 months ago
i have this recording but i didnt kno it was Argerichs this is one of my favorites
anonymousQ45 1 year ago
EPIC!
That RH articulation... I would recognize it anywhere! Every single phrase swells and recedes with such evenness. Jaw-dropping! Remember, Argerich learnt to play these when she was 8!!... I suppose that's what comes of 15 years practice + insurmountable talent!
pianofan24 1 year ago
ZU SCHNELL!
111Blowfish 1 year ago
This is unbelievable - she is really giving an own interpretation of this study. A pity she did not record all studies.
PHILBXL 1 year ago
C'est monstrueux comme elle joue bien. C'est vraiment la virtuosite a l'etat pur car elle garde la poesie de l'oeuvre.
Un grand merci Martha.
louismagie 1 year ago
Every time I hear her hands dancing on the masterpieces, as I see her muscled arms... I get a very massive erection.
Th3xGoaT 1 year ago
@Th3xGoaT LOL
ultracoolhomies 1 year ago
@Th3xGoaT Ew?
mmoynan 11 months ago
@mmoynan Ah come on!
Th3xGoaT 10 months ago
@Th3xGoaT LOL, nope still EW!
mmoynan 10 months ago
@mmoynan Ah man! Whatever :3
Th3xGoaT 10 months ago
this is a great version, but i think Pollini is the best in interpreting Chopin's etudes.
iWillBlockYou 1 year ago
Can some1 tell me whats rubato please -.-''
BassicStorm 1 year ago
@BassicStorm Musical delaying of tempo. Very used in Chopin. Basically not playing up to tempo to give a swaying and fluctuating effect. :)
MyExGirlf 1 year ago
@BassicStorm Adding on to that, not necessarily reducing your tempo. Can also be accelerating.
MyExGirlf 1 year ago
@MyExGirlf thx ;)
BassicStorm 1 year ago
In term of pure technique, I doubt this performance has ever been equaled by another pianist. The sheer force, speed, and evenness of those extended right-hand arpeggios is nothing short of amazing!!
Malcolm64 1 year ago
@Malcolm64 Indeed. And we must remember that this is LIVE playing, from the Chopin Competition. She was 24 and under immense pressure. She won, of course. This is, in my view, one of THE great performances of any Chopin Etude. Technically terrifying, without being at all mechanical.
Grazpop 1 year ago
Das ist die BESTE! die ALLERALLERBESTE version... gott ich sterbe... grossartig! xDDD und so exakt und so ausdrucksvoll und abwechslungsreich! Die einzige der ich auf Anhieb richtig zugehört habe! voller Verzückung! xD
Ich hatte erst vor das Stück selber auch zu spielen... aber wie sollte ich es nach so einer Aufnahme überhaupt wagen!!
saemundar 1 year ago
Comment removed
saemundar 1 year ago
Comment removed
saemundar 1 year ago
Heheheh this is epic awesomeness XD
dussekfan 1 year ago
Genialne !!!!!
justap20 1 year ago
this version rocks! perfect pace and dynamics. awesome dude.
squoocher 1 year ago
Best Chopin Etude 10-1
imagineer310 1 year ago
Clearly the idea that this can be done too fast does not make any sense, remember what an etude is, don't forget your fundamental definitions, it just has to be expressive and legato. This ferocious approach won her the freaking competition, the rest was a piece of cake. The farts on the jury just could not get this out of their minds, and handed the thing to her. Winning that with a single etude, man!
fredericfranc 1 year ago
there is nothing against rubato...
12345qazx1 1 year ago
this is the piece that won her the prestigious Chopin competition! uhhh.. does anyone know if this is on the "1965 legendary recording" released by EMI?
hsndong 1 year ago
@hsndong Unfortunately it's not.
sbtndr 1 year ago
best rendition by far: Maurizio Polini
Keytaster 1 year ago
god, she is exquisite. i wouldn't say i am "blinded" by the intensity; certainly it's intense, but the right hand, despite a few little errors, sounds SO beautiful... her dynamism is remarkable here, as usual. to play with such speed and such delicacy... really extraordinary.
semicolin 1 year ago
This music makes me think of a sunny day with ocean waves crashing against the shore.
bombergal1 1 year ago
She has beautiful technique in the right hand...and speed galore. It's the left hand that seems a little heavy at times. My favorites for the left hand melody are Pollini and Garrick Ohllson.
I am an Argerich fan. Her Rach 3 is the best to me. A marvellous pianist, that has the finger power to bring out all those inner voices.
robertslistening 1 year ago
WTF... there's no RITARDANDO or PIANO at 0.21, what the fuck is she playing?
lupash 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@lupash "WTF... there's no RITARDANDO or PIANO at 0.21, what the fuck is she playing?"
I guess you should go and teach her how this is supposed to be played. Oh wait, you're not half as good as she is XD
This etude won her the Chopin competition so i guess she's playing it just fine.
th3wing3dpaint3r 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
the piano is so out of time. disgusting.
nicholasmaspono 1 year ago
the piano is so out of time. disgusting.
nicholasmaspono 1 year ago
Brilliant!!!
wots72 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
I've heard countless interpretations of this piece and this certainly made me sit up an take notice. This piece is so notoriously difficult to take it beyond a harmonic progression of arpeggios and give it true musicality. The pianist in this recording has managed, imho, to create a shimmering harp-like texture that it stands quite rightly as a fully-formed piece of music. I, for one, am impressed.
ThoughtGazeCarlos 1 year ago
I just listened to this very etude played by 7 pianists, all 'greats' and so many of them are awful...this is cute stirring, imo.
rmjs777 1 year ago 2
unicuique suum...
,,e' la migliore interpretazione che io abbia mai ascoltato..Martha Argerich e'...grandissima.
leonboelmann 1 year ago
it's sad that people are blinded by this intensity
libetta 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
Argerich has a bad touch and she play without soul and knowledge!
WaldemarKoszlowsky 1 year ago
Comment removed
WaldemarKoszlowsky 1 year ago
Your knowledge of how to spell "knowledge" isn't that good either. Neither is your English grammar. Now don't post comments on all the videos pretending you know your stuff. Maybe do something useful?
CadwnYMur 1 year ago 3
WOW!!!!
Coralwinderful 1 year ago
bello
00scipione00 2 years ago
i didnt think i would like this but, she has more musicality than the rest. i would have to say tie between her and arrau. all the others play at one volume basically.
trevjr 2 years ago
the right hand is spectacular, but i do feel that left hand is a little too intense at some points.
TayuyaCS2 2 years ago
somewhere in between the versions of ashkenazy and pollini,
the point being this is very good.
dak91424 2 years ago
this is the 2nd best op.10-1 out there, the first is Arrau,... for clarity, legato, eveness and speed, and musicality, then Martha's version (this one)
arturon111 2 years ago
Have you heard ashkenazy's performance? its phenomenal! I like argerich but i still think that vladimir takes the cake. so much power in his!!
godsloved3 2 years ago
i dont like ashkenazy's. his sound is not so good, and bangs the piano,... the best for me is still Arrau;s (rememebr that it was recorded in the 50's and with litttle pedal !!!) Arrau's sound, as always is marvelous, as well as the legato,....
arturon111 2 years ago
Well, I tried to find op 10 no 1 by Wild, but it doesn't seem to be on youtube. Anyway, Argerich plays with fantastic right hand clarity considering the speed she is playing at. I was reading that sometimes she doesn't keep the tempo in pieces. I consider her a great pianist, but I don't like her left hand treatment in this one.
She is another speedster though, close to Cziffra. All these concert pianists deserve praise. It's an incredible thing to even reach the level they play at.
robertslistening 2 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
Puleeeeeaaase!!!!! Listen to the Earl Wild versions and you think Martha is a kindergarderer just starting out!!!!!
kv466 2 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
Amazing! just amazing!!!!!!!!!!!!
itzacu 2 years ago
This is AMAZING ! surely one of the best version of this study...
Babouloukoumkablam 2 years ago 25
wrong pitch..........
God440owsky 2 years ago 2
is it higher than the original?
shadecross 2 years ago
@shadecross: no it's a little too low, but still closer to c-major than b-major.
God440owsky 2 years ago
ok thx
shadecross 2 years ago
Comment removed
molecoladimollica 2 years ago
暴走
irutheniucam 2 years ago
Marto, Ty jesteś najlepszą kreacją w tej Etiudzie. NAJLEPSZĄ Z NAJLEPSZYCH ! ! !
ARCHI4110 2 years ago 2
Mille fois mieux que Pollini,par exemple.
antoinezygfryd 2 years ago 2
always thought only the starting notes count, but she makes the notes in between flow like waves. revolutionary.
bogus2581 2 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
this recording only tells you one thing: speed is not quality
nordjens 2 years ago
Comment removed
vadimrusmov85 2 years ago
Undoubtedly, this is the best performance of Etude Op 10 n 1.
aomf58 2 years ago 5
This has been flagged as spam show
she is the best at this tune on youtube, but have you seen her titties?? they're so saggy and unattractive. you have to admit that jamie callum is a much better pin-up for classical, although his cock is small. i saw it last week while training my binoculars on his parents' house when he was staying. i believe he is uncircumsized too. and fairly average in size and girth.
squoocher 2 years ago
M. Argerich has titan's hands! Such a strenght in woman' hands!!! What an expression! I love you Martha.
Nganguen 2 years ago 26
Incredibleeeeeee!!!!!!!!
XavifromSeville 2 years ago 2
Hahahaha
I love Martha, she is fantastic!! And this video is funny because it begins with the score and suddenly appears Argerich giving a smile - "not be impressed...i'm the best anyway" - hahahah
silcmo 2 years ago 2
Amazing!
ericfan20 2 years ago 2
WOW she plays this like she has special effects helping her, which makes it even more amazing. A piano is what you make it, and Martha well... u already know.
killingangel707 2 years ago
This particular performance won her the Chopin Competition in Warsaw in 1965, which kick-started her international career.
SullivanNiall 2 years ago
Beautiful
chusomen 2 years ago 3
sorry i was in vienna and watched kissin too last month in musikverein right? , his playing is no where near this
martbrahms 2 years ago 3
Somehow I've never heard this jaw-dropping performance before thanks so much. Very unlike the best of the others I know, and totally Argerich. Wild but controlled, hard but passionate... I'll shut up and listen again..
gratecourt 2 years ago 2
O
M
G
Musicman180 2 years ago 6
This has been flagged as spam show
O
M
F
G
!!!!!
EdiEllerymissing 2 years ago
y cant i click NOT SPAM on EdiEllerymissing's comment
callenishss 2 years ago
A few days ago I`ve heard Evgeny Kissin playing this Etude in Vienna! It´s too bad, that there is no recording of Kissins interpretation of Chopin Etudes - but I can tell you HE is really amazing! He uses his unbelievable technique to make a perfekt interpretation. Not like Lang Lang - who only shows off with his technique without intelligence. Argerich is a great pianist - but in my opinion, she plays this Etude too fast. Chopin Etudes are no Cerny Etudes - you need technique AND virtuosity!
franzl 2 years ago 4
May be, but i realy like this reccord by Argerich (on of the best for me), Cziffra and Garick Ohlsson are very goog too, I like when it is play very fast, very legatto and without rubato (To much rubatto in Cziffra performance).... If Alexei Sultanov could be with us may be he make something wonderfull from these piece.. A great pianist too in Chopin. (And of Course Richter, Horowitz, Rubinstein, Hofmann, Angeli...)
givemetime123 2 years ago
try cziffra's playing in his video "cziffra crazy improvisation" it has less rubato and more fluid legato
libetta 2 years ago
i have seen these video, it is very good to... but with a little bit rubato for me.
givemetime123 2 years ago
@franzl I can believe Kissin would sound great. He is one of my favorite pianists. I've heard him play so many difficult pieces it's not hard to believe he could play the etudes at breakneck speed with the right feeling and smoothness.
Kissin also happens to be a good friend of Argerich.
robertslistening 1 year ago
@franzl She's Martha.
MrYou2ber 11 months ago
@franzl Virtuosity means speed. Speed to the mindtwisting level. Talking about technique... pfff hahah. Argerich is recognized as one of the most technical pianists ever. Well, it's your opinion...pff.
Ianthe22 10 months ago
oh Mar\tha.....the greatest.
orannisthedestroyer 2 years ago
Musically, this is the most expressive, imaginative interpretation of this etude I have ever heard. Technically, it's a miracle! Argerich is one of the greatest pianists of all time.
troppofiato 2 years ago 6
I agree, but I haven't found many great pianists that are any better at interpretation than martha, and at least her versions are less boring
Sam26100 2 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
Great technique but thats it... very few interesting musical ideas. Music should not be a means to show off technique, technique should be a means to show off the music...
Liebromeistal 2 years ago
I totaly agree with you !! because it's so boring the high demonstrations of technique!!
it's the reason why I don't like the pianist François René Duchable for exemple...
piannelly 2 years ago
Yes I agree with what you said but sometimes Etudes is regarded as just Etudes. That's what you have to know as well .
DennisChoy1 2 years ago
This comment doesn't make a lot of sense to me. I mean, how the hell musical do you have to be to play an ETUDE?! It is a STUDY. It's a piece designed to show off! So, the technique has to be good enough to show off the music, and be enough to bring the music out. This performance is arguably unmatched with that along with everything else.
Excellent recording!
SCHneiDen777 2 years ago
PS Liebromeistal: in a different case, this comment would work, like if you were talking about some of the stuff, dare I ruffle some feathers, Lang Lang does, or something a noob does. Not this. This is pure class up and down.
SCHneiDen777 2 years ago
I agree with your analysis that all music should display some kind of emotional contrast, however I disagree in saying that this performance does not yield so. I found it very enlightening not only because of her technique but because of the varying colors she produces with different dynamic levels.
These are Chopin's etudes. Part of the reason they are so revolutionary is that they have musical legitimacy, they are not just "studies". They should be played beautifully.
scottturner1994 2 years ago
This is probably the most inventive rendition of this overwhelming etude. Poor Liebromeistal, your hate makes you deaf !
rigel48 2 years ago
I prefer Ashkenaskys and Keith Emersons performance, in this one the left hand is left behind. And the right one is way too fast.
Matelad 2 years ago
Both Argerich and Cziffra have the same time in this Etude:1:46, which is astounding, considering the clarity in both. Cziffra seems less concerned in "arching" the arpeggios and has several instances of unstable tempo. Not so in Argerich, whose icy sharp articulation is never so much in evidence as here.
janicezany 2 years ago 4
Salut Nelly
Et oui c'est vraiment une belle version (ma favorite avec la version de Cziffra lors d'un échauffement également en vidéo sur youtube à voir : c'est incroyable la manière dont il articule la main droite avec autant d'aisance et de facilité, à le regarder, on à l'impression que cette pièce est facile. :-()
Je la poste en vidéo le jour où je ferai mieux que lui....LOLOLOLOLOL ou que M.ARGERICH.
givemetime123 2 years ago
oui il est impressionnant Cziffra !
Jouer cette musique comme elle se doit d'être jouée ouah, le rêve!
piannelly 2 years ago
je regarde ta vidéo, il est tard, mais le temps s'arrête on dirait quand j'écoute martha. J'aime énormément cette étude, et elle la joue tellement bien !!
piannelly 2 years ago
excelent but i prefer Pollini
zurzica51 2 years ago
OMG!
But too fast for me. Choral in the left hand is lost
jewgienij13 2 years ago
she adds a few notes in the left hand every so often. which is not to say anything demeaning about the performance at all....
KDVSradio903 2 years ago
Comment removed
HerrNollie 2 years ago
Dear KDVSradio903-
I am curious as to which notes those might be that she supposedly adds. I love experts! You really said nothing positive and certainly nothing of significance ofr importance at all. My suggestion to you is to shut up until you can play like this.
HerrNollie 2 years ago 5
Even better than Pollini.
elgar34 2 years ago
I think her Op. 10 No. 1 is the best I've ever heard, it's unbelievably clear. Ashkenazy's live performance is my closest second.
KeithWhalen11 2 years ago 4
Eccellente********************
decimaquinta69 2 years ago 2
Excellent !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Serena
DreamPiano 2 years ago 2
I've noticed that if a performance is fast and clean, people say that it's "too technical," regardless of how good the sense of line, sound, and phrasing. If a performance is slow and sloppy, people gush about how "musical" it is, even though the technical imperfections detract from the player's ability to convey their musical intent. Technique is a means to an end, but it has to be there. And Chopin writes 176 bpm in the score, so for those who say it's too fast, take it up with Chopin.
finlayma84 2 years ago 26
@finlayma84 how do you know Chopin said or wanted 176 bpm? Is there any edition that confirms this? Most editions ask for a 210 tempo which is insanely fast, like in this performance.
tschaikowski 1 year ago
@tschaikowski Look at ANY edition of the Chopin etudes and you will find your answer. Every single edition I've ever seen, including Paderewski, Henle, Mikuli, Cortot, and Joseffy, indicates 176 bpm. And Argerich's tempo is nowhere near 210; it's about exactly 176. Check your metronome if you don't believe me. It IS true that many people play it slower (Ashkenazy's, for example is around 152). Not that it matters what the PRECISE tempo is: the point is that she plays it superbly.
finlayma84 1 year ago
@finlayma84 That's because if a performance is actually good, people are jealous of it and therefore criticize. If a performance is bad, they sympathise with the musician and therefore praise them.
If a pianist has a "musical mind" but has a technique which prevents them from playing with expression, they are still a bad pianist until their technique develops. Technique, in my opinion, is not only a technical but also a musical matter. If you don't have the technique, expression will not work.
andrew190495 1 year ago
Stunning!
Langsam75 2 years ago
c'est super ! merci beaucoup !
jeunepianiste 2 years ago
She is the best I LOVE THIS PERFORMANCE thanks MARTHA <3
zhenjiqiaos 2 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
showing off
brandix30000 2 years ago
oh magnifique!
piannelly 2 years ago
There is beautiful poetry in Martha's performance. She is a true artiste.
MillerMusicStudiosTV 3 years ago 3
This is after all an etude, meaning "practice, study or excercise." In this sense then, making musical poetry could be an after-thought as the point is to deliberately study and aritculate a particular technical element. (Which Argerich does perfectly)
lamorlayefrance 3 years ago
Yup, that's right.... if this was Czerny. But it is not: it is Chopin. And Chopin composed 27 Concert Études, so, while they are technically challenging and give you the full spectrum of piano technique, they are still music. Take op 10 no 3 as an example...
crybanshee 2 years ago
to crybanshee - fewest soloists can mate technique and expressive playing,speed and touch.Put aside that...personal taste rules,may i suggest you to listen to Gavrilov's rendition ? A good mix of virtuosistic and still expressive playing,
and with such a smart touch....obv. on my op.
And if you love pure poetry go to Pachmann....
indigoblue555 2 years ago
klingt für euch das Klavier auch so tief?
Ich habe meinen Bechstein auf 442HZ stimmen lassen und übe zur Zeit diese Etüde von Chopin.
Mir fällt dieser unterschied schon auf!
Bei mir klingt es viel heller.
Interessant.
Von Martha Argerich hatte ich eigentlich erwartet, daß sie diese Etüde viel schneller spielen würde.
Aber zu diesem Zeitpunkt war sie wohl in meinem Alter und spielte es etwas langsamer. Irgendwie beruhigend ...
FMatt099 3 years ago
o mijn god, zo snel :O echt fantastisch!
annebrackman 3 years ago
i like it....there is a lot of pashion in this performance,but my favorite is Ashkenazy....
stefici90 3 years ago 2
This comment has received too many negative votes show
way too fast... listen to ashkenazy poetry instead...
AndreAx1985 3 years ago
would 'poetry' be lacking because of fast tempo ? don't you hear any poetry, just for instance in the coda in c7 near 1:32 ?
Ashkenazy's version is really valuable anyway, those are just complementary performances.
romotchka 3 years ago
etude is for fast
callenishss 3 years ago
176 bpm
bobomber 2 years ago
Pollini - 192. Berezovsky (live), Argerich, Ohlsson, Cvetkovic, and no doubt many more all play at 176 or faster. So much for "barely anyone". I do accept your point that the etudes develop specific techniques. I just don't think that is their main purpose. I think they "feature" specific techniques, which will cause you to learn them better if practiced.
camaysar222 3 years ago
Bonjour
Je pense Que G.Cziffra et M Argerich ont donné le meilleur de ce qu'il était possible de faire avec cette étude de Chopin ; tous deux l'abordent différemment mais y apportent ce "petit plus" que je ne retrouve pas chez les autres (grands) pianistes mais c'est un avis très subjectif.
givemetime123 3 years ago
Bonjour givemetime123.
Je partage tout à fait votre avis sur cette magnifique étude de Chopin quant à son interprétation.
Argerich donne une extraordinaire luminosité aux arpèges de la main droite, et ses phrasés de la main gauche sont vraiment inspirés.
Cziffra c'est le délire des doigts avec une virtuosité très expressive.
Bien sûr d'autres jouent cette étude magnifiquement (Richter, Pollini, Ashkenazy, ...) mais d'une façon peut-être plus convenue.
rigel48 3 years ago
So sorry... my post was meant for another performance thread on this etude (Freddy Kempf).
camaysar222 3 years ago
Martha Argerich launched a really innovating new way to interprete Chopin and romantic Composers generally! This interpretation is by far one of the best I've ever heard in my entire life. Martha Argerich is really my favourite pianist... She renewed the old institutional art that piano was since Horowitz!
Vlaanderson 3 years ago 4
martha is a great2 chopin interpreter but this etude is better interpreted by pollini
rvn10rvn17 3 years ago
Certainly not ! (even if Pollini is very good)
rigel48 3 years ago
Anybody who experienced honestly the mechanical challenge to keep relaxed on this etude cannot deny that this performance is that of a pure genius. It has simply an unrivalled musicality, a grace and a mastery in dynamics with no equivalent in my opinion, at such speed. Including Ashkenazy and Richter, so brillant themselves though!
romotchka 3 years ago 6
have to agree. I love this piece so much that i had to buy the music. This etude is particularly difficult because you need large hands to facilitate the arpeggieic runs, not to mention maintaining fluidity and effortless grace.
The genius of chopin.
DualThunder 3 years ago
Very true. I've played this since high school. It is not easy!
junglejim66 3 years ago
i love argherich interpretation!very beautiful sound and perfect control!
lisztbest 3 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
this fast tempo is needless.
relaxanimal 3 years ago
that's cause you're a relaxing animal. for the non-relaxing, fast tempo is quite all right
divodivnoe 3 years ago 2
i agree the tempo is quite agitated
mdoub 3 years ago
I love argerich!!
nhkamakura 3 years ago 8
whoa, she's fast ! I didn't know women play faster than men......
Timmytimtimtm 3 years ago
hahaha...me neither until I discovered Argerich and Valentina Lisitsa, have a look at her Rachmaninoff Etude op39 no.6 lol, Its astonishing !!!!!!!!!
UKpiano 3 years ago
what a sound, phrasing...unbelievable. Totally gifted.
gta661610 3 years ago 11
very, very difficult
mdoub 3 years ago 5
Yes I totally agree that 25/6 and 25/11 should be the most hardest of the etudes. How can you say that 10/1 i is simple? I have already finished learning that and definitely dont think that it is the most simplest of all the etudes! In my opinion 10/5 is the easier etudes compared to the rest (:
wargreymagic 3 years ago
Having said all that... I would like to say this is a lovely performance, played with greatness I cant begin to comprehend. Its a gorgeous wild flourish of notes, she is so good Agerich! I can hear the mistakes she makes too, but it does not matter as this is my favourite perfomance now :)
UKpiano 3 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
Hmm, I don't think you guys understand. This is perhaps the easiest of the Chopin etudes, but what makes this performance unique and amazing is not only the musical and technical prowess she displays here, but more importantly, the fact that this is sight reading. She pretty much won the 7th chopin competition with this defiant sight reading of the piece. That's what makes her interpretation unique.
fatalfuz 3 years ago
May be u are right :-), Cziffra play these piece very well too, (see video on youtube, good tempo not to fast).
givemetime123 3 years ago
Is this correct , is this really a sight resding??
notichka 3 years ago