(cont'd)Their position, or worldview, is by definition a universal negative, which could "never" be proven. Based on the atheist's own epistemological understanding of reality he or she would have to reject their own worldview, that is if he or she is to be consistent with their own epistemology
@MattAlexWatsonEvery Christian has heard the atheist accuse him or her that, "You cannot 'prove' there is a God." Which by implication defaults to the verification principle, however, this poses a serious problem for the atheist
Ok,atheist looney wants Christians to be receptive when she "explains it all nice" but says it's ok when atheists are disrespectful to Christians. Both sides of her mouth spew lies. I will pray your eyes are opened .
That being said (below), I think there IS a problem with posting such extreme videos because it has the automatic effect of people putting up their defences. Speaking as a moderate, I sometimes find myself irked by those videos and hungry for videos that actually discuss the issues (which you do in your other videos very well).
In any event, just my opinion and a few of my observations (not like anyone asked for them anyways right :P)
I understand that you never set out to bring the religious into the atheistic fold, but still, I think its impossible to take a strong position and not want people to understand/accept that position (or at least TRY to understand it). That just seems to be part of our nature as social beings.
Clever. I guess, sort of. Too bad it only shows how simple minded you are. Where are the arguments? The refutations, the evidence? The average indoctrinatee like you is a sad person. The kind of childish person who's never even tried to think for themselves.
@utubepunk I would definitely keep it (to have an example of what millions of people used to follow in the past, because no one would want to believe me! xxD) ;-)
Besides, I have never wanted to burn the Torah, Bible or Quran, why should I? "Look, theists, I've burned your book! You got nothing now!!! *evil/insane laugh*" - "Right, now what?" See?
It won't make me feel any better or bring any feel of inner accomplishment or satisfaction. I hope this answers your question.
@utubepunk christians would desperately need bible in order to carry on believing. It won't solve my problem, so, NO, I won't burn/destroy the last copy of the HOLLY BIBLE if I had it in possession.
@stuchly1 I hear ya. I wouldn't destroy the last copy of the bible either, but for different reasons. Burning books feels very wrong- in fact, its what many religious zealots do / have done. However, I think xtians would just make up a new bible in its place.
@utubepunk That's pretty much what I meant actually! The fact that it wouldn't bring me any good feelings is precisely because I feel bad about burning books just because I disagree with the idea. It's not the book's fault anyway. ;-)
I have never seen a creationist set "The Origin of Species" on fire, so why should I participate in something as stupid as that? =D
@stuchly1 Actually, I recall some church groups have burned Darwin's book & definitely the Harry Potter books. Too bad they couldn't spend that time, energy & money helping the homeless! Remember- first they burn books, then they burn people. My wife, however, said she would burn it. Can't agree with that, but I understand her reasoning.
@stuchly1 I also believe this was done in Europe during the Dark Ages. Burned books that were considered against god or church doctrine and burned witches at the stake. This was before civilization & science dragged religion into moderation.
@utubepunk And yeah, I thing they would just re-write it again, maybe without some of the contradictions or factual inconsistences, so I think it would be for the "greater good" of my fellow atheists to gladly let them have their original contradictory book instead... =D
@utubepunk I wouldn't destroy the last copy of the Bible in existence. Doing that is just like destroying the evidence of one of the most ridiculous systems of belief created by mankind. Leave that evidence so that hopefully people in the future would learn from it and not become part of something similar to it. I say this because there will always be things similar to Christianity (or even more ridiculous) to be invented by human. It's part of their nature, unfortunately.
She isn't going to Hell for being an atheist. She is going to Hell for being a bitch. That is the secret 11th commandment, "thou shall not be a bitch"
Just for the record to theists watching these and generating assumptions on atheists. We are not this ignorant, she is literally one of the most unintelligent people I have ever heard, she seems to have heard that it is cool to be atheist and say fuck you to the bible, but in any respect most atheist are respectful to peoples belief because most atheist agree with being TOLERANT of others she has some self entitlement issues. She is no less hyprocritical than the people she claims to hate.
@jayk111 I liked your comment. I kind of feel that way when I see idiots waving "GOD HATES..." signs. I do believe in God but I would much sooner choose the company of a respectful atheist than a bigot. I do not believe everything in the Bible but I do find it comforting to think that our existence doesn't end in the failure of the body. I feel no need to force my beliefs upon others, what people believe or what they don't is between them and God and that everyone will reach Heaven if it exists.
Well I feel its important to warn people about the eternal fire thats ahead for all those who dont believe. I warn them out of love. People should always be repectful to each other. I dont believe its a physical fire. But people will suffer because they will be away from Gods love and protection for eternity. Wouldnt you want to warn someone you love of a danger???
@chairincarnate God gives us freedom through His son Jesus Christ. Who said you had to be a slave??? On your channel you admit to being a troll. If you are looking for an argument move along.
@KatsumotosHeart You said I have to submit to him, why do I have to submit to someone if im free?Jesus doesn't give us freedom he says we need to serve god, which is the opposite of freedom.Troll or not your logic makes no sense.
@KatsumotosHeart Actually sin isn't slavery, sin is supposedly doing whatever you want, while being with Jesus is supposedly not doing whatever you want.So sin can't be slavery, while Satan is my OMFLOLBFF I don't actually serve him, he's just like a pretty cool guy to me.See you're left your morals and knowledge of good and evil behind and let someone else do all the thinking for you.Im a Satanist but yet I don't hurt anyone, and I certainly don't condemn anyone to eternal damnation, see?
@KatsumotosHeart No I haven't, see the only one demanding I burn in eternal agony here would be you and your cross dressing egocentric tyrant of a god.I refuse to worship this death god of yours, that kills newborn children and genocides entire worlds, and he threatens me with death?Well this is some choice you have here, slavery or death, that's just lovely.What happened to the love and hugs and friendship and forgiving?I thought Jesus was all about those.
@KatsumotosHeart No I haven't, see the only one demanding I burn in eternal agony here would be you and your cross dressing egocentric tyrant of a god.I refuse to worship this death god of yours, that kills newborn children and genocides entire worlds, and he threatens me with death?Well this is some choice you have here, slavery or death, that's just lovely.What happened to the love and hugs and friendship and forgiving?I thought Jesus was all about those.
@KatsumotosHeart "Well I feel its important to warn people about the eternal fire thats ahead for all those who dont believe. I warn them out of love. People should always be repectful to each other. I dont believe its a physical fire."
For more sceptical, rationalist views try youtube video and books by Dan Barker, John W. Loftus, Robert M. Price, Joseph Wheless, Earl Doherty, Timothy Freke, Valerie Tarico, Tentmaker777, Gary Greenberg, Jason Long, Keith Parsons, Ken Pulliam, Richard Carrier, Ken Humphreys, C. Dennis McKinsey, Daniel Dennett, Victor J. Stenger, Bart Ehrman, Joseph Wheless, Try reading the whole history of world religions, history of western philosophy & comparative religion, history of protestantism,
Would a sane person waste his time screaming at a monkey for doing something you think is uncivil? Then you should not waste your time screaming at religious crazy people who do not or cannot understand your views. There are certainly better ways to spend your time. Like make money to help yourself, your family, the world etc. Instead of sowing anger in monkeys, just live as an example of what a "good" person is.
well lets compare who is more insane . christians or muslims . i mean really do they get provoked that easily ? well nowadays i m testing the waters.pissing people off is somekinda cool hobby or something
Speaking as a Gnostic Christian, I respect your right to be an athiest and can understand
why you believe such. It makes sence on a scientific point of view. However, I feel you should respect other faiths as well. Burn the Koran at all, you are a dead woman! Make sure you are willing to die for your beliefs because its suicide. If fundie Christians are crazy, fundie Muslems are criminally insane! Nice knowing you, RIP.
@acippico yeah, but some people use curse words to convey the indignation and fierceness of the views held. That's why conversations between adults sometimes contain expletives, and sometimes you really gotta call a spade a spade and a molesting priest a fucking child-raping piece of shit. Euphemisms do a disservice to the natural outrage we all ought feel towards really bad ideas.
@acippico ooh, poor baby. does it make your ears bleed?
you're not intelligent enough to listen to her ideas, you're too focused on the fact that she said something that you've been conditioned to reject for no real or valid reasons. grow up, break free of your bronze-aged conditioning, i.e. vulgar language. do a little reading up on the vulgate culture and why they were 'vulgar' (because they were not part of the rich elite and spoke another language that the elite labeled 'vulgar').
@factsvsreligion Christians and people of other religious people need to be more respectful of atheists. @leon327 6). The biggest reason to oppose religion is that it stifles learning, understanding and peace. The world will get much better over night if people will just give up duality. We can all just stop fighting.
the question is. Do you REALLY want to convince other people that rational and skeptical thinking is good, or do you only want to offend them? Because if you only want to offend them and laugh at them, and you arent going to try to talk to them, then its no point. You are wasting time.
I got an idea to direspect religion. Me and you, Factvsreligion.....sexual relations in a church parking lot. You know you can't pass that offer up lol........jk
LMAO both Christianity and Islam DERIVED from Judaism, so to blame them is to blame it. Also have you ever heard of Zionism? Innocent Arabs are being killed in the middle east right now because of Jews. You are lost and ignorant.
Reasons to kill religion: 1) It appeals to peoples credulity rather than their scepticism. 2) It preaches guilt and shame about our sexual acts and sexual relationships 3) It terrifies children with the idea of hell and eternal punishment 4) It considers women an inferior creation 5) It informs us that we are created and not evolved in spite of all the evidence 6) It forces good people to do evil things
@AirForceGirl You're right about Judaism. The OT of the bible is a bloodbath and if scripture is to be believed the Israelites were bloodthirsty, genocidal marauding terrorists. Over the intervening centuries however, Jews are a tiny minority and the harm they directly caused is small compared to the slaughters and widespread oppression committed in the name of Christianity and Islam. But it's also true Christianity and Islam derived from Judaism--so all Abrahamic religions are equally to blame.
I'm not religious and I honestly hate other atheists. All you do is start shit with these religious people. The fact of the matter is that all religious people are evil idiots who try to push their beliefs on other people. All lot of them are good folks. Atheists on the other hand, I can't say that for. Most of you embarrass me.
That is correct, you cant have reasonable conversation with theist, because they are deluded, ignorant and unresonable. You can just present them facts, but they are deluded so they just deny facts.
Agnostics can be theists and atheists. I am agnostic atheist (hard core atheist).
I do not support drugs (science prooved how drugs effect human body, it is shame what some people do to themselves).
LOL! WE'RE HUMAN! You're whole "hypocrite" thing is hypocrisy in and of itself! Atheists, Christians, Muslims, etc ALL have a history of being hypocritical. And here is a question to you, FactVsReligion: why MUST people be disrespectful to each other? Am I wrong? Because from your video I only could come up with you wanting people to be disrespectful. Why is it that you keep thinking that everyone in a group is the same kind of person? Just b/c one person is bad doesn't mean every1 is bad.
I don't think I'm obligated to respect someone who tells me that I'll go to hell. They can disrespect me as much as they want but I'm not allowed to disrespect them back? I don't respect any religion and no religious people at all. And if they have a problem with that they can go fuck themselves!
How many atheists have heared a Christian say "You have to respect me because at least I believe in (a) god or "The Constitution says you have to respect me for believing in (a) god. My answer is always the same. The Constitution requires that we as a people respect your right to believe anything you want to in the name of religious freedom not that I respect what you believe without proof. The laws of this country do however limit how you can practice your religion.
So i pressume that all atheist believe everything happens simply by chance.......and that when u die u just come back to life like some sort of video game....and that the earth formed because of the big bang.... Where did the infinately expanding gasses insidw that one point come from i assume they just appeared out of nowhere......athiest are so Ignorant for lack of a better word
@kingk252 Theists think an infinite being self-created itself from nothing and proceeded to create a virtual infinitude of galaxies, stars, black holes, comets, worlds, and an probable infinite array of creatures..only to obsess about the sex lives of a band of primitive primates? God-believers embrace vision of the divine so ludicrously tiny and pathetic, it's downright disgusting. RELIGION IS A MENTAL ILLNESS!!
You are still a mindless drone worshiping a being who believes that not showing himself and expecting all humans to know he exists and worship him then burn ALL suposed infidels is a'ok.
Come on. The Christian god is more of an asshole then their devil.
Him: Atheist's have no respect for people's beliefs or values.
You: Good
With this statement how do expect anyone to respect your beliefs or values? You must show respect to get respect. Show some compassion and some love when you try and help people. Otherwise your negativity will leave you spinning your wheels going nowhere. Just my opinion.
This is why atheism will never prevail, because it is just another dogma without consideration of other's personal truths.
Nothing is more disrespectful than threatening people with eternal torture for not believing. Based on this one point alone, Christianity is the most disrespectful and offensive belief system ever to exist.
Oh? Both Islam and Judaism promise eternal torture for non believers as well. Not only that, but Islam doesn't offer forgiveness for heathens, whereas Christianity offers it for anyone who come to Christ. So how is Chritianity the "most" disrespectful? By the way, I'm not a Christian.
@AirForceGirl05 You may have point about Islam---the Koran does include the hell threat and it probably outscores the bible in it's barbarism, but not by much. But I don't believe Judaism has a hell threat as there is no mention of it in the OT. 'Sheol' is mentioned but most Jews consider it to be a grave or pit or resting place for the dead. And heaven is where god resides--mankind doesn't go to either of these places. I'm not a scholar of the OT so I'm open to correction on these matters.
@KrfNYC2 Theists can't respect Atheists because their doctrines dictate that anyone who doesn't believe in gods is evil and damned. Atheists can't respect Theists because it's impossible to respect delusion and madness. The only "respect" possible across the existential divide is feigned and hypocritical, which is worse than useless. The world's full of things, ideas and people that merit zero respect. Get used to it.
@Hottides From my understanding a theist is one who believe in God. I do not think that you need to follow a specific doctrne to fit this description. I am a perfect example. I am not religious but I believe in God. Now I simply disagree that an atheist can't be polite and respectful towards a theist. Why can't you disagree with somone's veiwpointbut still remain civil and considerate?
Alot of people asking me to prove god doesn't exist I will do so as soon as you prove to me that the giant marshmallow man at the bottom of the ocean who invented oxygen doesn't exist?. I just created him but if you believe in a higher life form or intelligent being just because people did along time ago doesn't make him real, if it does people will worship my marshmallow man in millennia to come
religion and the nutbags have ruined who Jesus really is. he is kind and loving sure i dont understand the whole old testament i admit it ok but i know we are responsible for ourselves and today is a new day.i cannot control what others have done or will do.why do atheist and christians argue and hate on each other? i dont hate a soul.i believe in God and science.there is no need to hate.im not religious but I love Jesus.death threats are not of God!i will pray for your safety.
@saintpine well im just saying i dont wanna see anything bad happen to anyone and i know we live in a world full of good and bad people. i dont know you nor am i around you so all i can do is pray and encourage you.
@Jmonkey515 Laura's "rudeness" is actually candor and honesty, which I find exhilarating! Enough with Atheists feigning phony respect for religion! Lies and delusions that destroy lives deserve neither respect for courtesy!!
1) Atheism is not a religion it is a belief, a belief that to be religious beliefs requires suspension of reality
and logic be it christian Buddhist, muslim or scientologist.
2)Judeo-christian religion has killed millions over millennia from the crusades to the Irish troubles and about 250 other conflicts. not to mention that in the bible god himself killed or ordered the killing of millons of people.
1) what is theism? The belief in a higher power What is atheism? The belief in no higher power.
what makes one religions and one not??
2) Judeo-christians may have killed byt they're not called to, the catholic vs. protestant war in Ireland isn't Biblical, the Crusades were not Biblical AND if God wants someone dead you can't get mad at him for that because he owns all we see so put 2 and 2 to gether. God doesn't call for people to just be exterminated. Why do you dislike God
@Jmonkey515 In the old testament God called on and tribes to kill other tribes hence he ordered the killing of.
The crusades where not biblical but they where based on religion so as such are a religious war, Ireland isn't/wasn't a religious war? You've have never been to belfast where saying in public you are catholic can get you killed. Religion it plays a huge part in it. God doesn't own all he sees becaus ehe doesn't exist if that is the basis of your argument it is flawed from the start
2) Just because someone does something inthe name of God doesn't mean that's what God teaches. IF God orders someone to be brought to death you can't be mad at him because (again) he created everything so he has every right to do what he pleases. "God doesn't own what he sees because he doesn't exhist" is a poor argument, just b/c you believe there is no God doesn't mean there isn't one. Can you provide proof for your atheistic argument?
@Jmonkey515 Bible says then god told ... to kill ... to me means god ordered the killing of. It works in court and works here. Can I prove atheism exists?. science today has a explanation for pretty much everything that happens and has happened so superstitions like religion aren't needed anymore. Scientists / biologists are very advanced today and find no evidence of a greater life form that created the universe or even a blade of grass. This is why christians don't like science
@hakaboy6924 Christians don't like science?. Where have you been for the past like 800 years? Atheism is VERY new belief among scientists who forever were all theists. Saying that christians (or theists) don't like science is very arrogant, not stupid though. No evidence for a higher life form? Ever looked at your computer? It runs on its own (given it's a laptop), you can turn it on and comment on youtube, it's a complex machine. Take it apart and you won't see the creator of it, does he exist
@Jmonkey515 Most scientists under theist regimes where either Christians or Muslims because these belief systems permeated all aspects of life, and doubting them was punishable by death. Once secularism made reason safe and legal, scientists dropped religion in droves; many went further and ardently attacked Church and Mosque. Science and religion are incompatible mortal foes at total war for humanity's allegiance and future. As Stephen Hawking said, science is destined to win :-)
@Jmonkey515 thats retarded logic scientists before this time did not have a choice. people would outcast you if you didnt believe in god and on the flip side the scientists were not pronounced theists because there was not really an atheism at the time. religion stays out of science, politics, and out of our currency it has no place in intellectual minds just a place for weak minded people who had the religious cock shoved down their throat when they were young.
Yeah to burn a book now should no longer hold the stigma it once did. No one is going to be able to destroy an idea by destroying the text. In the past it was the suppression of ideas. THAT IS NOT POSSIBLE ANYMORE. At least in free societies. If Uganda started burning Ugandan books then I would care.
@AtheistToothFairy I think that respect is a vague word. But, for the sake of this discussion let's define it as kindness, politeness, delicacy and consideration. I see no reason why you cannot disagree with people but still apply those principles to the way that you treat them.
@AtheistToothFairy If you find it funny then you find it funny. I honestly don't have a problem with laughter, I'm just not crazy about it when it comes at the expense of treating others with sensitivity.
@KrfNYC2:" I'm just not crazy about it when it comes at the expense of treating others with sensitivity"
I think you meant to say, "without sensitivity", yes?
Look, we treat young the Santa fantasy that young kids have, with sensitivity, but should we do the same when they cling to that Santa belief with great insistence, while they are teenagers?
To atheists, this belief in the bible god is JUST AS SILLY and undeserving of respect.
@AtheistToothFairy I meant without. "Expense" means cost. S you have to give up treating others with sensitivity. Anyway, I think we both understand what I mean. Now if a teenager believes in Santa Claus then you should try to reasonw with him, but still...I see no reason to be rude and mean in that case.
@KrfNYC2:"Now if a teenager believes in Santa Claus then you should try to reasonw with him, but still...I see no reason to be rude and mean in that case"
Yes, and if a teen in my real life life announced he/she believed in Santa still, I would indeed show compassion and get them help.
However, to come onto a PUBLIC FORUM and claim with certainty that Santa is real, does not merit any respect IMHO, anymore than coming here and claiming one's [imaginary] god exists, would merit respect.
@KrfNYC2:"Are you claiming that you should only treat close ones with compassion and sensitivity and not strangers"
You missed my point, it seems. I'm not surprised.
Just as it is with any PUBLIC FIGURE, once a person posits an idea in a PUBLIC FORUM, they must realize they've put themselves in the public eye and that means one must expect scorn, as well as the kudos one hopes to get.
As they say, if you can't take the heat, stay out of the kitchen.
@AtheistToothFairy The scorn is common so maybe they should expect it. But this does not make it justified. By that logic a WWII Nazi who executes an openly Jewish man in Germany is justified in doing so because the Jew should expect it.
@KrfNYC2:"that logic a WWII Nazi who executes an openly Jewish man in Germany is justified in doing so because the Jew should expect it"
1. You're attempting to equivocate here.
2. Killing someone is permanent.
3. Attacking an IDEA is not on the same level as killing someone and we are mostly attacking their IDEAS (beliefs), unless the person acts like an idiot or troll et al
@AtheistToothFairy Of course they are not the same but the logic behind the action is similar. You claim that acting towards another in a way that this other would not enjoy is justified as long as this other should expect it. This doesn't apply. What is the Nazi just slapped the Jew or called him by a deragatory name (i.e. treat him with direspect)? Is it justified because the Jew should expect it?
@KrfNYC2:"What is the Nazi just slapped the Jew or called him by a deragatory name"
Being "Jewish" in your example, is not a choice of BELIEF, so this isn't applicable to picking on someone for the beliefs that they choose and/or hold.
If one chooses to howl naked at the full moon while claiming they are part werewolf, I guess you're saying we should treat their delusion with 'respect'?
To me, creationists are just a wacky and also deserve no respect for their held beliefs, period.
@AtheistToothFairy From my understanding Judiasm is a religion. But if you are referring to the ethnic implications of Judiaism then I don't see why "choice" is an issue here. What if I "choose" to convert to Judaism? Then is a Nazi justified in belittling me? Also I don't believe in free will so I don't agree that we choose anthing.
@AtheistToothFairy If you don't want to respond then, of course, you don't have to. But assuming that you have read my comment, I simply ask that you think about it, agree with it, and then apply it to your own life. Peace and love.
@AtheistToothFairy That video, to me, suggests that religious people should not be treated with respect because one does not repect their religion. If you do not respect their religion this is one thing, but why would you not respect the person? The human being.
@AtheistToothFairy Yes, often on websites like youtube, we do not really KNOW the peson who we ae conversing with. Hell, a lot of times we don't even know those closest to us. The only thing that you have to judge hese peope off of is their claims. Now you seem to agree that this is insufficient. So why quikcly judge them as not worthy of respect? What is to be gained by this? Even if you don't like somebody who you've known for a long time...what is gained by being rude and insensitive?
@AtheistToothFairy We seem to agree that it is illogical to judge people on youtube (I don't think that it is good to judge people in general), but to me this is not even an issue in this discussion. I can't see any circumstance in which it is imperative to be rude and insensitive. These types of things are part of the reason why, and this is my gut reaction, we have trouble maintining a civil society. We cannot learn to disagree without stooping to violence of mind or body.
@KrfNYC2 One can show others superficial civility and courtesy without respecting them or their beliefs. Such should be the "default" setting for discourse, since it conveys hospitality and facilitates dialogue. However, civility must be reciprocal, and should be revoked in response to outrageous utterances or actions. When religious people speak and act reasonably, they deserve respect; when they start mouthing insanity, no respect's due. It's vital not to reward or dignify harmful beliefs.
@Hottides I disagree. Again, if someone starts making outrages claims, what is gained by being rude and harmful towards them. Why can't we, in a civil manner, disagree...however strongly? It does't require you to minimize your beliefs and it promotes good will and a healthy relationship.
Theist exceptionalism is highly offensive! Some theists have unthinking respect for anyone not part of their religion, but the truer the adherence to their religion, the disrespectful, rude, or outright cruel to apostates. After all, non-Christians deserve Hell and non-muslims should be killed according to the Q'uran.
I see no reason for atheists to show any respect to theists.
I'm an atheist and I find it difficult to accept all of the hostility here towards people of faith. You become them when you're so sure you're right that you feel anger toward them. I am clearly a non confrontational non activist atheist. And they are no more nut bags than you. We're all nut bags.
(cont'd)Their position, or worldview, is by definition a universal negative, which could "never" be proven. Based on the atheist's own epistemological understanding of reality he or she would have to reject their own worldview, that is if he or she is to be consistent with their own epistemology
tnmusicman1 11 hours ago
@MattAlexWatsonEvery Christian has heard the atheist accuse him or her that, "You cannot 'prove' there is a God." Which by implication defaults to the verification principle, however, this poses a serious problem for the atheist
tnmusicman1 11 hours ago
Ok,atheist looney wants Christians to be receptive when she "explains it all nice" but says it's ok when atheists are disrespectful to Christians. Both sides of her mouth spew lies. I will pray your eyes are opened .
tnmusicman1 13 hours ago
i smoked a page of Deuteronomy once, made my weed taste of bigotry.
AlexMcshred6505plus 1 week ago
Those hummingbird feeders are working REALLY well. Ours never got more than one at a time, and mostly zero. Maybe it's the location.
logicked 3 weeks ago
(sigh) i love her.
D3viouz1 3 weeks ago
@D3viouz1 i wanna pray to her lung tumour.
taffysaur 2 days ago
@taffysaur wha? oh i get it, youre one of those militant anti smokers.
aha...hah..ehe... erm... yea. whatever you say.
D3viouz1 2 days ago
That being said (below), I think there IS a problem with posting such extreme videos because it has the automatic effect of people putting up their defences. Speaking as a moderate, I sometimes find myself irked by those videos and hungry for videos that actually discuss the issues (which you do in your other videos very well).
In any event, just my opinion and a few of my observations (not like anyone asked for them anyways right :P)
Bucci885 4 weeks ago
I understand that you never set out to bring the religious into the atheistic fold, but still, I think its impossible to take a strong position and not want people to understand/accept that position (or at least TRY to understand it). That just seems to be part of our nature as social beings.
Bucci885 4 weeks ago
Fuck god and all that bullshit, there's
More evidence of aliens and life on other planets then Jesus and god, where's the proof? Give me that and I will believe.
VixzL 1 month ago 3
Disrespectful Atheism - also known as 'Anti-theism'. Believe it or not but the majority of atheists are not anti-theists
haribo687 1 month ago
obsession.! !!!!
all73n 2 months ago
hahahaha...!!! low life no life... I shall name you " clown " but the joke is on you...
all73n 2 months ago
@all73n
Clever. I guess, sort of. Too bad it only shows how simple minded you are. Where are the arguments? The refutations, the evidence? The average indoctrinatee like you is a sad person. The kind of childish person who's never even tried to think for themselves.
MattAlexWatson 4 weeks ago
FvR=WIN
jssherrard 2 months ago
The camera guy has an annoying voice. I wouldn't be able to stand this guy for a minute.
TheAtheistSocialist 2 months ago
I agree with you 100%. It makes me sick when atheists think they need to respect religions.
TheAtheistSocialist 2 months ago
@TheAtheistSocialist dirty commie
synchronium24 1 month ago
Good work. I've seen many of your youtube clips. Thoughtful and solid arguments.
Besides, you are young and pretty. A great embassor :-)
wasabinguyen 2 months ago
Question: If you had the last remaining copy of the Bible in existence, would you keep it or would you burn / destroy it?
utubepunk 2 months ago
@utubepunk I would definitely keep it (to have an example of what millions of people used to follow in the past, because no one would want to believe me! xxD) ;-)
Besides, I have never wanted to burn the Torah, Bible or Quran, why should I? "Look, theists, I've burned your book! You got nothing now!!! *evil/insane laugh*" - "Right, now what?" See?
It won't make me feel any better or bring any feel of inner accomplishment or satisfaction. I hope this answers your question.
Besides, I don't think
stuchly1 2 months ago
@utubepunk christians would desperately need bible in order to carry on believing. It won't solve my problem, so, NO, I won't burn/destroy the last copy of the HOLLY BIBLE if I had it in possession.
stuchly1 2 months ago
@stuchly1 I hear ya. I wouldn't destroy the last copy of the bible either, but for different reasons. Burning books feels very wrong- in fact, its what many religious zealots do / have done. However, I think xtians would just make up a new bible in its place.
utubepunk 2 months ago
@utubepunk That's pretty much what I meant actually! The fact that it wouldn't bring me any good feelings is precisely because I feel bad about burning books just because I disagree with the idea. It's not the book's fault anyway. ;-)
I have never seen a creationist set "The Origin of Species" on fire, so why should I participate in something as stupid as that? =D
stuchly1 2 months ago
@stuchly1 Actually, I recall some church groups have burned Darwin's book & definitely the Harry Potter books. Too bad they couldn't spend that time, energy & money helping the homeless! Remember- first they burn books, then they burn people. My wife, however, said she would burn it. Can't agree with that, but I understand her reasoning.
utubepunk 2 months ago
@utubepunk Really? I didn't know that...
And the "first books, then people" part is true too. That's what Nazis did. =/
stuchly1 2 months ago
@stuchly1 I also believe this was done in Europe during the Dark Ages. Burned books that were considered against god or church doctrine and burned witches at the stake. This was before civilization & science dragged religion into moderation.
utubepunk 2 months ago
@utubepunk Yeah =/
stuchly1 2 months ago
@utubepunk And yeah, I thing they would just re-write it again, maybe without some of the contradictions or factual inconsistences, so I think it would be for the "greater good" of my fellow atheists to gladly let them have their original contradictory book instead... =D
stuchly1 2 months ago
@utubepunk I wouldn't destroy the last copy of the Bible in existence. Doing that is just like destroying the evidence of one of the most ridiculous systems of belief created by mankind. Leave that evidence so that hopefully people in the future would learn from it and not become part of something similar to it. I say this because there will always be things similar to Christianity (or even more ridiculous) to be invented by human. It's part of their nature, unfortunately.
wasabinguyen 2 months ago
@utubepunk burn it!
fatdrood 2 months ago
Hummingbirds in LA? cool :D
rgrannell1 3 months ago
Some suggested uses for the Qu'ran:
Tampon
Bumwipe for pig
Goat fodder
VoxNeruda 4 months ago
She isn't going to Hell for being an atheist. She is going to Hell for being a bitch. That is the secret 11th commandment, "thou shall not be a bitch"
SkylitDriveFan123 4 months ago
Christianity is about guilt. Google manipulation and one of the more effective ways to 'do manipulation' is thru guilt. Just check it out
Defhrone 4 months ago
atheists rule the internet, because theyre smart
atheist: over 9000!!!
christians and other delusional sheeple: 0
Met0llicA 5 months ago
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The Koran should be stoned to death and beheaded
DeemotheAtheist 5 months ago
Respect goes a long way. You have much to learn. Take some time and ask yourself why you are so passionate about this.
LaughingElite 5 months ago
You are not alone
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valerytozer 5 months ago
Just for the record to theists watching these and generating assumptions on atheists. We are not this ignorant, she is literally one of the most unintelligent people I have ever heard, she seems to have heard that it is cool to be atheist and say fuck you to the bible, but in any respect most atheist are respectful to peoples belief because most atheist agree with being TOLERANT of others she has some self entitlement issues. She is no less hyprocritical than the people she claims to hate.
jayk111 6 months ago
@jayk111 I liked your comment. I kind of feel that way when I see idiots waving "GOD HATES..." signs. I do believe in God but I would much sooner choose the company of a respectful atheist than a bigot. I do not believe everything in the Bible but I do find it comforting to think that our existence doesn't end in the failure of the body. I feel no need to force my beliefs upon others, what people believe or what they don't is between them and God and that everyone will reach Heaven if it exists.
LeeAnnOfAlderaan 6 months ago
@jayk111 I wish I could frame your comment because its so perfect to describing this
DeJay17Revolution 4 months ago
Hummingbirds!!!
SpazzyMcGee1337 6 months ago
Well I feel its important to warn people about the eternal fire thats ahead for all those who dont believe. I warn them out of love. People should always be repectful to each other. I dont believe its a physical fire. But people will suffer because they will be away from Gods love and protection for eternity. Wouldnt you want to warn someone you love of a danger???
KatsumotosHeart 6 months ago
@KatsumotosHeart You don't love.
You just want your ass to get accepted into heaven so you stick to the Tyrant dictator God.
chairincarnate 5 months ago
@chairincarnate and you just maybe love your sin so much you refuse to submit to God.
KatsumotosHeart 5 months ago
@KatsumotosHeart Why should I submit to him?Can't I be his friend, not his slave?
Isn't slavery bad in the first place?
chairincarnate 5 months ago
@chairincarnate God gives us freedom through His son Jesus Christ. Who said you had to be a slave??? On your channel you admit to being a troll. If you are looking for an argument move along.
KatsumotosHeart 5 months ago
@KatsumotosHeart You said I have to submit to him, why do I have to submit to someone if im free?Jesus doesn't give us freedom he says we need to serve god, which is the opposite of freedom.Troll or not your logic makes no sense.
chairincarnate 5 months ago
@chairincarnate you are a slave to sin. You serve the devil.
KatsumotosHeart 5 months ago
@KatsumotosHeart Actually sin isn't slavery, sin is supposedly doing whatever you want, while being with Jesus is supposedly not doing whatever you want.So sin can't be slavery, while Satan is my OMFLOLBFF I don't actually serve him, he's just like a pretty cool guy to me.See you're left your morals and knowledge of good and evil behind and let someone else do all the thinking for you.Im a Satanist but yet I don't hurt anyone, and I certainly don't condemn anyone to eternal damnation, see?
chairincarnate 5 months ago
@chairincarnate if you are a satanist , then you have condemed yourself to hell.
KatsumotosHeart 5 months ago
@KatsumotosHeart No I haven't, see the only one demanding I burn in eternal agony here would be you and your cross dressing egocentric tyrant of a god.I refuse to worship this death god of yours, that kills newborn children and genocides entire worlds, and he threatens me with death?Well this is some choice you have here, slavery or death, that's just lovely.What happened to the love and hugs and friendship and forgiving?I thought Jesus was all about those.
chairincarnate 5 months ago
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@KatsumotosHeart No I haven't, see the only one demanding I burn in eternal agony here would be you and your cross dressing egocentric tyrant of a god.I refuse to worship this death god of yours, that kills newborn children and genocides entire worlds, and he threatens me with death?Well this is some choice you have here, slavery or death, that's just lovely.What happened to the love and hugs and friendship and forgiving?I thought Jesus was all about those.
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@KatsumotosHeart "Well I feel its important to warn people about the eternal fire thats ahead for all those who dont believe. I warn them out of love. People should always be repectful to each other. I dont believe its a physical fire."
Isn't brimstone basically sulfur?
vmelkon 4 weeks ago
I Love this video, the interviewer is an idiot.
The dogs are awesome.
brendakim1111 6 months ago
For more sceptical, rationalist views try youtube video and books by Dan Barker, John W. Loftus, Robert M. Price, Joseph Wheless, Earl Doherty, Timothy Freke, Valerie Tarico, Tentmaker777, Gary Greenberg, Jason Long, Keith Parsons, Ken Pulliam, Richard Carrier, Ken Humphreys, C. Dennis McKinsey, Daniel Dennett, Victor J. Stenger, Bart Ehrman, Joseph Wheless, Try reading the whole history of world religions, history of western philosophy & comparative religion, history of protestantism,
zytigon 6 months ago
I wish I had that many hummingbirds where I lived. Also, great video!
TheSmaych 7 months ago
Would a sane person waste his time screaming at a monkey for doing something you think is uncivil? Then you should not waste your time screaming at religious crazy people who do not or cannot understand your views. There are certainly better ways to spend your time. Like make money to help yourself, your family, the world etc. Instead of sowing anger in monkeys, just live as an example of what a "good" person is.
My 2¢.
matreyia 7 months ago
well lets compare who is more insane . christians or muslims . i mean really do they get provoked that easily ? well nowadays i m testing the waters.pissing people off is somekinda cool hobby or something
nicklaue 7 months ago
Speaking as a Gnostic Christian, I respect your right to be an athiest and can understand
why you believe such. It makes sence on a scientific point of view. However, I feel you should respect other faiths as well. Burn the Koran at all, you are a dead woman! Make sure you are willing to die for your beliefs because its suicide. If fundie Christians are crazy, fundie Muslems are criminally insane! Nice knowing you, RIP.
astrofrk 7 months ago
It would be good to hear you put forward your arguments without a potty mouth.
acippico 7 months ago
@acippico yeah, but some people use curse words to convey the indignation and fierceness of the views held. That's why conversations between adults sometimes contain expletives, and sometimes you really gotta call a spade a spade and a molesting priest a fucking child-raping piece of shit. Euphemisms do a disservice to the natural outrage we all ought feel towards really bad ideas.
BrendoNintendo01 7 months ago
@acippico ooh, poor baby. does it make your ears bleed?
you're not intelligent enough to listen to her ideas, you're too focused on the fact that she said something that you've been conditioned to reject for no real or valid reasons. grow up, break free of your bronze-aged conditioning, i.e. vulgar language. do a little reading up on the vulgate culture and why they were 'vulgar' (because they were not part of the rich elite and spoke another language that the elite labeled 'vulgar').
hoosiergambler 6 months ago
@factsvsreligion Christians and people of other religious people need to be more respectful of atheists. @leon327 6). The biggest reason to oppose religion is that it stifles learning, understanding and peace. The world will get much better over night if people will just give up duality. We can all just stop fighting.
beautyinbreakdowns2 7 months ago
the question is. Do you REALLY want to convince other people that rational and skeptical thinking is good, or do you only want to offend them? Because if you only want to offend them and laugh at them, and you arent going to try to talk to them, then its no point. You are wasting time.
gulbirk 7 months ago
I got an idea to direspect religion. Me and you, Factvsreligion.....sexual relations in a church parking lot. You know you can't pass that offer up lol........jk
HybridD91 8 months ago
This bitch fuckin better except Jesus so I don't have to deal with her when I get to hell.
DIEGOPSYCHE 8 months ago
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DIEGOPSYCHE 8 months ago
@pakleglia
Jews own the media which is why sheep like you believe they are completely innocent.
AirForceGirl05 8 months ago
@pakleglia
LMAO both Christianity and Islam DERIVED from Judaism, so to blame them is to blame it. Also have you ever heard of Zionism? Innocent Arabs are being killed in the middle east right now because of Jews. You are lost and ignorant.
AirForceGirl05 8 months ago
If I close my eyes I picture Dana Scully is talking.
ahhhhjjjj 8 months ago
I love you.
krisdijne 8 months ago
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Reasons to kill religion: 1) It appeals to peoples credulity rather than their scepticism. 2) It preaches guilt and shame about our sexual acts and sexual relationships 3) It terrifies children with the idea of hell and eternal punishment 4) It considers women an inferior creation 5) It informs us that we are created and not evolved in spite of all the evidence 6) It forces good people to do evil things
leon327 8 months ago
Hummingbirds are cool.
dhaddox 9 months ago 28
Ever notice how atheists completely ignore Judaism and all the bad it's done in this world?
AirForceGirl05 9 months ago
@AirForceGirl You're right about Judaism. The OT of the bible is a bloodbath and if scripture is to be believed the Israelites were bloodthirsty, genocidal marauding terrorists. Over the intervening centuries however, Jews are a tiny minority and the harm they directly caused is small compared to the slaughters and widespread oppression committed in the name of Christianity and Islam. But it's also true Christianity and Islam derived from Judaism--so all Abrahamic religions are equally to blame.
sweetsweatyfeet 9 months ago
I'm not religious and I honestly hate other atheists. All you do is start shit with these religious people. The fact of the matter is that all religious people are evil idiots who try to push their beliefs on other people. All lot of them are good folks. Atheists on the other hand, I can't say that for. Most of you embarrass me.
AirForceGirl05 9 months ago
That is correct, you cant have reasonable conversation with theist, because they are deluded, ignorant and unresonable. You can just present them facts, but they are deluded so they just deny facts.
Agnostics can be theists and atheists. I am agnostic atheist (hard core atheist).
I do not support drugs (science prooved how drugs effect human body, it is shame what some people do to themselves).
zigifrojd 9 months ago
LOL! WE'RE HUMAN! You're whole "hypocrite" thing is hypocrisy in and of itself! Atheists, Christians, Muslims, etc ALL have a history of being hypocritical. And here is a question to you, FactVsReligion: why MUST people be disrespectful to each other? Am I wrong? Because from your video I only could come up with you wanting people to be disrespectful. Why is it that you keep thinking that everyone in a group is the same kind of person? Just b/c one person is bad doesn't mean every1 is bad.
UFLSD 9 months ago
this chick better become a christian so I don't see her when get I to hell. I offfend christians when they tell me I should respect these athiest.
DIEGOPSYCHE 9 months ago
I like your hammock. Can I have one?
oliethefolie 9 months ago
I don't think I'm obligated to respect someone who tells me that I'll go to hell. They can disrespect me as much as they want but I'm not allowed to disrespect them back? I don't respect any religion and no religious people at all. And if they have a problem with that they can go fuck themselves!
fablan6 10 months ago
How many atheists have heared a Christian say "You have to respect me because at least I believe in (a) god or "The Constitution says you have to respect me for believing in (a) god. My answer is always the same. The Constitution requires that we as a people respect your right to believe anything you want to in the name of religious freedom not that I respect what you believe without proof. The laws of this country do however limit how you can practice your religion.
MsMommaRose 10 months ago
So i pressume that all atheist believe everything happens simply by chance.......and that when u die u just come back to life like some sort of video game....and that the earth formed because of the big bang.... Where did the infinately expanding gasses insidw that one point come from i assume they just appeared out of nowhere......athiest are so Ignorant for lack of a better word
kingk252 10 months ago
@kingk252 Theists think an infinite being self-created itself from nothing and proceeded to create a virtual infinitude of galaxies, stars, black holes, comets, worlds, and an probable infinite array of creatures..only to obsess about the sex lives of a band of primitive primates? God-believers embrace vision of the divine so ludicrously tiny and pathetic, it's downright disgusting. RELIGION IS A MENTAL ILLNESS!!
Hottides 10 months ago
@kingk252 Please tell me this was a joke?
bl2489 10 months ago
@kingk252 Come back to life? When you die, you die! You obviously don't know a single thing about atheism.
offwithurhead 9 months ago
Lets say they are right
Lets say any religion of your choice is right.
You are still a mindless drone worshiping a being who believes that not showing himself and expecting all humans to know he exists and worship him then burn ALL suposed infidels is a'ok.
Come on. The Christian god is more of an asshole then their devil.
WarOnSanity 10 months ago
beautiful dogs and hummingbirds!
peeps have been smoking bibles for ages - bible paper thin and easy to manipulate.
bakkiedutchman 10 months ago
beautiful dogs and hummingbirds!
bakkiedutchman 10 months ago 3
Him: Atheist's have no respect for people's beliefs or values.
You: Good
With this statement how do expect anyone to respect your beliefs or values? You must show respect to get respect. Show some compassion and some love when you try and help people. Otherwise your negativity will leave you spinning your wheels going nowhere. Just my opinion.
This is why atheism will never prevail, because it is just another dogma without consideration of other's personal truths.
Vuntry 10 months ago 2
I have no beef with god, if it does exist.
It's the blatant pedling of ignorance under the banner of faith that makes my blood boil.
You cannot justify a world view in which to posession of knowlege is not a prerequisite for respect on a scientific and philosophical stage.
You have to earn the right to make claims about the nature of reality, the meaning of life and the existence of god.
Kerouac0deciple 10 months ago
Let's smoke the Koran so Muslims will riot and we can "smoke" them. Lol.
Hottides 11 months ago
Nothing is more disrespectful than threatening people with eternal torture for not believing. Based on this one point alone, Christianity is the most disrespectful and offensive belief system ever to exist.
sweetsweatyfeet 11 months ago 27
@sweetsweatyfeet:"Nothing is more disrespectful than threatening people with eternal torture for not believing"
Xtians fail to see how INSANE such a concept would be for a 'god' to behave this way.
Then to wish an eternal torture to anyone for a FINITE crime, is just far beyond unjust.
Of course they themselves believe they'll be on a cushy cloud, playing their harps, licking the dirt of of jesus’ feet.
AtheistToothFairy 11 months ago
@sweetsweatyfeet
Oh? Both Islam and Judaism promise eternal torture for non believers as well. Not only that, but Islam doesn't offer forgiveness for heathens, whereas Christianity offers it for anyone who come to Christ. So how is Chritianity the "most" disrespectful? By the way, I'm not a Christian.
AirForceGirl05 9 months ago
@AirForceGirl05 You may have point about Islam---the Koran does include the hell threat and it probably outscores the bible in it's barbarism, but not by much. But I don't believe Judaism has a hell threat as there is no mention of it in the OT. 'Sheol' is mentioned but most Jews consider it to be a grave or pit or resting place for the dead. And heaven is where god resides--mankind doesn't go to either of these places. I'm not a scholar of the OT so I'm open to correction on these matters.
sweetsweatyfeet 9 months ago
I think that there is disrespect on both the thesit and atheist side. As well as poiltness.
KrfNYC2 11 months ago
@KrfNYC2 Theists can't respect Atheists because their doctrines dictate that anyone who doesn't believe in gods is evil and damned. Atheists can't respect Theists because it's impossible to respect delusion and madness. The only "respect" possible across the existential divide is feigned and hypocritical, which is worse than useless. The world's full of things, ideas and people that merit zero respect. Get used to it.
Hottides 11 months ago
@Hottides From my understanding a theist is one who believe in God. I do not think that you need to follow a specific doctrne to fit this description. I am a perfect example. I am not religious but I believe in God. Now I simply disagree that an atheist can't be polite and respectful towards a theist. Why can't you disagree with somone's veiwpointbut still remain civil and considerate?
KrfNYC2 11 months ago
Alot of people asking me to prove god doesn't exist I will do so as soon as you prove to me that the giant marshmallow man at the bottom of the ocean who invented oxygen doesn't exist?. I just created him but if you believe in a higher life form or intelligent being just because people did along time ago doesn't make him real, if it does people will worship my marshmallow man in millennia to come
hakaboy6924 1 year ago
religion and the nutbags have ruined who Jesus really is. he is kind and loving sure i dont understand the whole old testament i admit it ok but i know we are responsible for ourselves and today is a new day.i cannot control what others have done or will do.why do atheist and christians argue and hate on each other? i dont hate a soul.i believe in God and science.there is no need to hate.im not religious but I love Jesus.death threats are not of God!i will pray for your safety.
chadmight 1 year ago
@chadmight "i will pray for your safety."
Thats a real efficient method of protection, well done.
saintpine 1 year ago
@saintpine well im just saying i dont wanna see anything bad happen to anyone and i know we live in a world full of good and bad people. i dont know you nor am i around you so all i can do is pray and encourage you.
chadmight 1 year ago
Our Religious, Political and Cultural views serve a "Death Denying" function!
Pablo113 1 year ago
atheists were offended by smoking a bible video?
Its because some of them still have childish attachments to their
quire boy days. Pathetic just pathetic.
atheistkyo 1 year ago
@BillyJackification I like open minded people. Your beliefs may be bullshit, but you aren't. By the way, why are you a Christian?
mslewp 1 year ago
Hehe, I smoked the first page of the book of revelations years ago in Vegas before I ever heard of this. Keep up the fire. A.D.
TheAnubisDrake 1 year ago
I can't listen to her...
Jmonkey515 1 year ago
@Jmonkey515 then dont?
SmileFIN 1 year ago
@SmileFIN It's discusting how rude she is, I just can't believe it...
Jmonkey515 1 year ago
@Jmonkey515 Laura's "rudeness" is actually candor and honesty, which I find exhilarating! Enough with Atheists feigning phony respect for religion! Lies and delusions that destroy lives deserve neither respect for courtesy!!
Hottides 1 year ago
@Hottides lies and delusions that destroy lives....really?
1) Atheism is a religion too so I wouldn't say 'all religion is destructive', it's kind of like shooting yourself in the foot.
2) Why do you think that religion (specifically Judeo-Christian views) are destructive?
3) If you respect her attitude, her crude and disrespectful language I simply woldn't know what to say.
Jmonkey515 1 year ago
@Jmonkey515
1) Atheism is not a religion it is a belief, a belief that to be religious beliefs requires suspension of reality
and logic be it christian Buddhist, muslim or scientologist.
2)Judeo-christian religion has killed millions over millennia from the crusades to the Irish troubles and about 250 other conflicts. not to mention that in the bible god himself killed or ordered the killing of millons of people.
hakaboy6924 1 year ago
@hakaboy6924
1) what is theism? The belief in a higher power What is atheism? The belief in no higher power.
what makes one religions and one not??
2) Judeo-christians may have killed byt they're not called to, the catholic vs. protestant war in Ireland isn't Biblical, the Crusades were not Biblical AND if God wants someone dead you can't get mad at him for that because he owns all we see so put 2 and 2 to gether. God doesn't call for people to just be exterminated. Why do you dislike God
Jmonkey515 1 year ago
@Jmonkey515 In the old testament God called on and tribes to kill other tribes hence he ordered the killing of.
The crusades where not biblical but they where based on religion so as such are a religious war, Ireland isn't/wasn't a religious war? You've have never been to belfast where saying in public you are catholic can get you killed. Religion it plays a huge part in it. God doesn't own all he sees becaus ehe doesn't exist if that is the basis of your argument it is flawed from the start
hakaboy6924 1 year ago
@hakaboy6924 1) can you answer my question?
2) Just because someone does something inthe name of God doesn't mean that's what God teaches. IF God orders someone to be brought to death you can't be mad at him because (again) he created everything so he has every right to do what he pleases. "God doesn't own what he sees because he doesn't exhist" is a poor argument, just b/c you believe there is no God doesn't mean there isn't one. Can you provide proof for your atheistic argument?
Jmonkey515 1 year ago
@Jmonkey515 Bible says then god told ... to kill ... to me means god ordered the killing of. It works in court and works here. Can I prove atheism exists?. science today has a explanation for pretty much everything that happens and has happened so superstitions like religion aren't needed anymore. Scientists / biologists are very advanced today and find no evidence of a greater life form that created the universe or even a blade of grass. This is why christians don't like science
hakaboy6924 1 year ago
@hakaboy6924 Christians don't like science?. Where have you been for the past like 800 years? Atheism is VERY new belief among scientists who forever were all theists. Saying that christians (or theists) don't like science is very arrogant, not stupid though. No evidence for a higher life form? Ever looked at your computer? It runs on its own (given it's a laptop), you can turn it on and comment on youtube, it's a complex machine. Take it apart and you won't see the creator of it, does he exist
Jmonkey515 1 year ago
@Jmonkey515 Most scientists under theist regimes where either Christians or Muslims because these belief systems permeated all aspects of life, and doubting them was punishable by death. Once secularism made reason safe and legal, scientists dropped religion in droves; many went further and ardently attacked Church and Mosque. Science and religion are incompatible mortal foes at total war for humanity's allegiance and future. As Stephen Hawking said, science is destined to win :-)
Hottides 1 year ago
@Jmonkey515 thats retarded logic scientists before this time did not have a choice. people would outcast you if you didnt believe in god and on the flip side the scientists were not pronounced theists because there was not really an atheism at the time. religion stays out of science, politics, and out of our currency it has no place in intellectual minds just a place for weak minded people who had the religious cock shoved down their throat when they were young.
dusty500067 1 year ago
@dusty500067 hooray maturity...
Jmonkey515 1 year ago
@Jmonkey515 lol thanks niggy
dusty500067 1 year ago
That is amazing! I've never seen so many humming birds in one place.
dulgrani 1 year ago
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LinkMEP 1 year ago
C'mon I used to use the yellowpages to roll my smokes.
Thayer79 1 year ago
Yeah to burn a book now should no longer hold the stigma it once did. No one is going to be able to destroy an idea by destroying the text. In the past it was the suppression of ideas. THAT IS NOT POSSIBLE ANYMORE. At least in free societies. If Uganda started burning Ugandan books then I would care.
Thayer79 1 year ago
Its a great intellectual outlet, but I needs breaks from my trollaholicism.
Thayer79 1 year ago
I agree with her, I have no respect for religion, especially those that involve a 'god'
AtheistToothFairy 1 year ago 16
@AtheistToothFairy I think that respect is a vague word. But, for the sake of this discussion let's define it as kindness, politeness, delicacy and consideration. I see no reason why you cannot disagree with people but still apply those principles to the way that you treat them.
KrfNYC2 11 months ago
@KrfNYC2
Now that all depends on the attitude I detect from the theist themselves.
If they're preaching-at-me, sorry, they'll get zero respect from me.
If they wish to have an intelligent discussion, then I can debate with them nicely UNTIL they toss out the ole hell card.
AtheistToothFairy 11 months ago
@AtheistToothFairy In those cases, how does being rude benefit anybody?
KrfNYC2 11 months ago
@KrfNYC2
It then becomes a source of humor to other atheists.
If you doubt that, then go to FSTDT . com
AtheistToothFairy 11 months ago
@AtheistToothFairy If you find it funny then you find it funny. I honestly don't have a problem with laughter, I'm just not crazy about it when it comes at the expense of treating others with sensitivity.
KrfNYC2 11 months ago
@KrfNYC2:" I'm just not crazy about it when it comes at the expense of treating others with sensitivity"
I think you meant to say, "without sensitivity", yes?
Look, we treat young the Santa fantasy that young kids have, with sensitivity, but should we do the same when they cling to that Santa belief with great insistence, while they are teenagers?
To atheists, this belief in the bible god is JUST AS SILLY and undeserving of respect.
AtheistToothFairy 11 months ago
@AtheistToothFairy I meant without. "Expense" means cost. S you have to give up treating others with sensitivity. Anyway, I think we both understand what I mean. Now if a teenager believes in Santa Claus then you should try to reasonw with him, but still...I see no reason to be rude and mean in that case.
KrfNYC2 11 months ago
@KrfNYC2:"Now if a teenager believes in Santa Claus then you should try to reasonw with him, but still...I see no reason to be rude and mean in that case"
Yes, and if a teen in my real life life announced he/she believed in Santa still, I would indeed show compassion and get them help.
However, to come onto a PUBLIC FORUM and claim with certainty that Santa is real, does not merit any respect IMHO, anymore than coming here and claiming one's [imaginary] god exists, would merit respect.
AtheistToothFairy 11 months ago
@AtheistToothFairy Are you claiming that you should only treat close ones with compassion and sensitivity and not strangers? If so, I disagree.
KrfNYC2 11 months ago
@KrfNYC2:"Are you claiming that you should only treat close ones with compassion and sensitivity and not strangers"
You missed my point, it seems. I'm not surprised.
Just as it is with any PUBLIC FIGURE, once a person posits an idea in a PUBLIC FORUM, they must realize they've put themselves in the public eye and that means one must expect scorn, as well as the kudos one hopes to get.
As they say, if you can't take the heat, stay out of the kitchen.
AtheistToothFairy 11 months ago
@AtheistToothFairy The scorn is common so maybe they should expect it. But this does not make it justified. By that logic a WWII Nazi who executes an openly Jewish man in Germany is justified in doing so because the Jew should expect it.
KrfNYC2 11 months ago
@KrfNYC2:"that logic a WWII Nazi who executes an openly Jewish man in Germany is justified in doing so because the Jew should expect it"
1. You're attempting to equivocate here.
2. Killing someone is permanent.
3. Attacking an IDEA is not on the same level as killing someone and we are mostly attacking their IDEAS (beliefs), unless the person acts like an idiot or troll et al
AtheistToothFairy 11 months ago
@AtheistToothFairy Of course they are not the same but the logic behind the action is similar. You claim that acting towards another in a way that this other would not enjoy is justified as long as this other should expect it. This doesn't apply. What is the Nazi just slapped the Jew or called him by a deragatory name (i.e. treat him with direspect)? Is it justified because the Jew should expect it?
KrfNYC2 11 months ago
@KrfNYC2:"What is the Nazi just slapped the Jew or called him by a deragatory name"
Being "Jewish" in your example, is not a choice of BELIEF, so this isn't applicable to picking on someone for the beliefs that they choose and/or hold.
If one chooses to howl naked at the full moon while claiming they are part werewolf, I guess you're saying we should treat their delusion with 'respect'?
To me, creationists are just a wacky and also deserve no respect for their held beliefs, period.
AtheistToothFairy 11 months ago
@AtheistToothFairy From my understanding Judiasm is a religion. But if you are referring to the ethnic implications of Judiaism then I don't see why "choice" is an issue here. What if I "choose" to convert to Judaism? Then is a Nazi justified in belittling me? Also I don't believe in free will so I don't agree that we choose anthing.
KrfNYC2 11 months ago
@AtheistToothFairy If you don't want to respond then, of course, you don't have to. But assuming that you have read my comment, I simply ask that you think about it, agree with it, and then apply it to your own life. Peace and love.
KrfNYC2 11 months ago
@KrfNYC2
Watch this video please
/watch?v=P4dSiHqpULk&feature=related
AtheistToothFairy 11 months ago
@AtheistToothFairy That video, to me, suggests that religious people should not be treated with respect because one does not repect their religion. If you do not respect their religion this is one thing, but why would you not respect the person? The human being.
KrfNYC2 11 months ago
@KrfNYC2:"If you do not respect their religion this is one thing, but why would you not respect the person? The human being"
Here in these 'forums' (virtual world) we deal with CLAIMS that are made.
We cannot possibly 'know' the person behind these claims 99% of the time.
So, what we are primarily picking-on, are the BELIEFS in such wild claims that are being made.
In real life, I can judge the overall person and not just the claims they make, see?
AtheistToothFairy 11 months ago
@AtheistToothFairy Yes, often on websites like youtube, we do not really KNOW the peson who we ae conversing with. Hell, a lot of times we don't even know those closest to us. The only thing that you have to judge hese peope off of is their claims. Now you seem to agree that this is insufficient. So why quikcly judge them as not worthy of respect? What is to be gained by this? Even if you don't like somebody who you've known for a long time...what is gained by being rude and insensitive?
KrfNYC2 11 months ago
@AtheistToothFairy We seem to agree that it is illogical to judge people on youtube (I don't think that it is good to judge people in general), but to me this is not even an issue in this discussion. I can't see any circumstance in which it is imperative to be rude and insensitive. These types of things are part of the reason why, and this is my gut reaction, we have trouble maintining a civil society. We cannot learn to disagree without stooping to violence of mind or body.
KrfNYC2 11 months ago
@KrfNYC2 One can show others superficial civility and courtesy without respecting them or their beliefs. Such should be the "default" setting for discourse, since it conveys hospitality and facilitates dialogue. However, civility must be reciprocal, and should be revoked in response to outrageous utterances or actions. When religious people speak and act reasonably, they deserve respect; when they start mouthing insanity, no respect's due. It's vital not to reward or dignify harmful beliefs.
Hottides 11 months ago
@Hottides I disagree. Again, if someone starts making outrages claims, what is gained by being rude and harmful towards them. Why can't we, in a civil manner, disagree...however strongly? It does't require you to minimize your beliefs and it promotes good will and a healthy relationship.
KrfNYC2 11 months ago
Theist exceptionalism is highly offensive! Some theists have unthinking respect for anyone not part of their religion, but the truer the adherence to their religion, the disrespectful, rude, or outright cruel to apostates. After all, non-Christians deserve Hell and non-muslims should be killed according to the Q'uran.
I see no reason for atheists to show any respect to theists.
drfoxcourt 1 year ago
Try peeling the pages off one by one. Just like one of the torments it describes. Sent it to hell.
TimothyStuartRiches 1 year ago
Make a paper mache sculpture of muhamed out of the Koran
realityhack 1 year ago
I love the dogs in the video.
minnescanada 1 year ago
I can't help but notice all the goofy little hummingbirds in the background lol.
jjason23296 1 year ago
@Redneck2141 Better yet, smoke all of Mecca :-)
Hottides 1 year ago
Religion is poison. Useless superstition.
bary1234 1 year ago
"Religion of peace" is a great example of Orwellian doublespeak in our society.
DienervonWotan14 1 year ago
Like the hummingbirds.
MegF142857 1 year ago
I'm an atheist and I find it difficult to accept all of the hostility here towards people of faith. You become them when you're so sure you're right that you feel anger toward them. I am clearly a non confrontational non activist atheist. And they are no more nut bags than you. We're all nut bags.
slump75 1 year ago