NS W34 TOO CLOSE!

[benschlechter]

Has the city been designated a quiet zone?

[stagmie]

@benschlechter No it hasn't.

[Rocketboy1950]

Why does FRED whine ? We just have a battery operated unit that is totally silent. Terminology differs from ETAS to ETM or BOG for battery operated guard which comes from the days that we had a van ( caboose ) with a conductor ( guard ) in it.

[adamsloco]

@Rocketboy1950 The newer models of FRED (SBU - Sensing and Braking Unit - at my railroad) use a small turbine that runs off of the brake pipe to generate electricity for the unit. No more batteries required.

[mbw1001]

that train is doing more than 10mph for sure!!!

[benschlechter]

Too bad the FRED (EOTD) replaced the caboose, because the train doesn't seem the same w/out it. Some local trains still use it in some areas.

[Sodiumreactor]

Maybe the engineer doesnt want to disturb the townspeople by blaring his horn, so hes trying to be polite by using short bursts?

[ASPRAG29]

We have had several people in the Alexander city area get hit by the train. One was an elderly lady with Alzheimer who wandered out of a car parked nearby at the wrong time. There are also places where the track is literally is feet from buildings and in the backyard of people with children. It is understandable why there is a slow order. Not sure why this guy blows the horn like that other than preference. Most blare their horn coming through.

[stagmie]

@ASPRAG29 Yep, got video of the lady with Alzheimer's getting hit and photos of the stopped train that hit the other lady between Carlisle's and the Fire Department. The "slow order" is not (was not) for that, though. The slow order was for track work going on East of here close to the Lake Martin Trestle. There is, however, a 20 mph speed limit through town because of the numerus grade crossings, not because of the space between the rails and buildings or closeness of yards.

[jasada09]

too close to what you didnt look that close to the train especially coz the train is going slow

[maddennis55]

That whine of the EOT was likely a dynamo using train line air to keep a charge on the battery, a system to keep from having to change out the batteries so often.

[heyzues90210]

prolly coulda done without the first three minutes of the video!!!!

[BNSFandSP]

zonezigger, the "TOO CLOSE" part comes at the end. When you can hear the EOT(FRED) whiz by, you know ur too close

[MiguelGalarceS]

Good work!!

[zonezigger]

i dont get wat the close part was

[starcraftguy1]

I think the first locomotive is an SD40-2 second loco a Dash 9 and third loco a SD70

[BNSFandSP]

No, it's a low hood Geep, an M-2 and a pair of SD70s.

[starcraftguy1]

@BNSFandSP

what are you talking about...?

[BNSFandSP]

Look closer, what do you see? I see a pair of 2 axel trucks, an SD70ACe/M-2 nose, and two SD bodies, which

(to me) look like a pair of SD70's, not to mention the fact that the two trailing units have a 6500 #.

[TrainiacProductions]

@starcraftguy1 GP38-3 (ex-SOU GP50 rebuild), SD70M-2, SD60, SD60.

[graysonator123]

At least through here it is :D

[graysonator123]

The EOT also monitors air pressure in the brake line and send the info back to the locomotive where the engineer can hear it.

[charlieb640]

Well......a lot depends on the EOT and the locomotive.  What you say is not always true....and on some shortlines equipped with older power it's never true.

[silvester59]

What is EOT?

[oddball200889]

End Of Train a device that has a red light to show the EOT.

[DipDop99]

now i can officially be called a train spotter :D

[boeingLL747]

perfect shot. nice n steady and nice sound too. 5/5 from me

[maxcady69]

SCARY HORN

[DipDop99]

lmao, i can hear it, but i cant see it... seems like its getting further and further away...

[robertgift]

Nice steady video, stagmie. Thanks.

Set exposure on "Manual".

Where was the close call?

I like how the engineer is considerate of the community and briefly blasts the horn.

I'm sure he is watching for motorists turning or crossing in front of him and would give longers blasts if needed.

There is a greater risk of a collison when turning when the train is behind.

[Buffalotrains93]

The "Close Call" is the fact that his camera is about 2 feet from the tracks, and if you can hear the winning of the EOT with clearity then it is said you are a little to close,

Take care,

Ryan

[HighIronofWisconsin]

Never mind, I see in an earlier comment - track work. Makes sense.

[HighIronofWisconsin]

What's the reason for the slow order? Looks like they picked it up quite a bit after the power got by, so can't be condition of the track.

[irtwit]

Its probably to avoid hitting those that want to try to beat the train. After passing all the intersections he picked up the speed.

[stagmie]

Wrong, irtwit, there was some track work going on just East (behind) of here.

[TrainiacProductions]

Awesome video! Great shot! But hey -- someone needs to learn how to blow the horn!

Jim

[robertgift]

Why would the FRED be whining?

Does it have a generator powered by brakeline air?

[Trainmaster1212]

That blue van at 3:20 looked like it turned hard and sped up to try to beat the train at another crossing...

[stagmie]

Nope, no other crossings on that road behind the camera.

[Trainmaster1212]

Ah, ok.

[Inventor555]

how long is that thing ?

[NardolTheElf]

Four engines, 73 cars long, I counted ;D

[llamasocks92]

well that was not action packed at all. Im sorry. I hate it when they go really slow like that. its dissapointing.

[unionpacificrr]

Nice shot!! I think I got closer to a train though, I'll post a video response of it. I almost crapped my pants when I saw how close the plow was to the tripod leg. Literally, about 2" clearance.

[TheGondorian]

wat camera do u use?

[TrainmasterCurt]

What a funny sound that SBU makes, weird, oh well nothin beat the human wave of the Conductor on a CP Rail Van

[KazzTheSeventh]

Engineer "What does this dohickey do?"

*He presses it*

"HAHA it's the horn!" He says

He keeps doing little bursts and giggling in beteween.

[theshugchannel]

@KazzTheSeventh you sir are an idiot

[zwquilia]

@KazzTheSeventh bahahahaaha!!! ikr!!

[tmotorman]

An there's uncle Joe he's a movin kinda slow at the junction!!!!!

[KSE828]

He doesn't blow the horn very well... Nice job recording though. Great quality.

[dontsqueezethecheese]

whats FRED in your description ?? i assume EOT means end of train.

[Dgently]

flashing rear-end device, or "FRED," (also called an end-of-train device, ETD or EOT) is an electronic device mounted on the end of North American freight trains in lieu of a caboose.

[decline2state]

FRED means Flashing Rear End Device. However, another, rather unpleasant epithet beginning with F is sometimes used instead of Flashing--probably by people who wish trains still used cabooses!

[crapper1]

are the eot devices battery powered or some other means ? cause ive never heard them do that

[waterboy31602]

alot of them now days have a high pitched whining noise that most times u can hear. Some still have the old ones that dont whine.

[BNSF5608]

LOL, I was just asking a question similar. The new ones made by Quantum Engineering use a small turbine powered by the air in the airlines to keep the batteries at charge and they also measure pressure in the lines at the same time.

[UPTRAIN]

The air EOT's don't charge batteries, they don't have a battery on them, as soon as you take the air off of them, they die. It is seldom now that you run across an old EOT with a battery, as most of them have been retired in favor of the air turbine models.

[BNSF5608]

I and a MOW crew member took one apart, they have batteries incase the air supply dies, then the rear is still protected.

[pdlip1]

Either they have changed the way you blow the horns at crossings or there is some town ordinace but that is the wrong way to blow the horn for crossings. NS is normal anal on rules. The propper way is 2 longs, 1 short and 1 long and repeat.

[stagmie]

Dude, man, y'all all need to lighten up! Man! Y'all act as if you've NEVER bent/broken any rule in your life. There are NO "town ordinace" rules concerning blowing at crossings. Each engineer is free to blow as they see fit. Yes, there is a standard to go by. But no one goes by the standard 100% of the time.

[decline2state]

Some towns have established "quiet zones" where trains are not supposed to routinely blow their horns at crossings. However, I believe establishment of a quiet zone takes more than unilaterally passing a city ordinance; gates and signals may have to be installed, signs warning motorists that the train will not whistle have to be installed, etc. Railroads are reluctant to allow quiet zone, since they probably (rightly) fear they'll be sued the first time an accident occurs there.

[raridan1]

Note that you can hear the air operated EOT as the rear of the train goes by the camera. I used to think all EOTs were battery operated. Speed restriction was to clear ungated crossings. Once past camera he could pick up speed.

[stagmie]

Nope, the 10mph speed restriction was for ongoing trackwork just west of this location (behind the camera). The normal speed through town at this location is 20mph.

[Kelvintanxuande]

how long was the train if i may ask?

[kirmititus]

Pull his tapes, that's more than 10 mph. Maybe 10 mph on a head end restriction, but that hogger definitly picked it up after he went by the camera. Don't show this to the road foreman of engines.

[Jordo133]

And what makes you think that the slow order started right where the author was standing? The ass-end may very well have cleared the slow and he was notching up accordingly.

[CountVonBoco]

with the sound of the wheel clacks getting more frequent, he was surely doing more than 10MPH. i have ridden aboard several trains, even in cabrides, and the speed he was doing, was about eqivalent to the speed of the train i rode. so dont tell me he was doing 10mph. Just because the 10MPH rule is there, doesnt mean most engineers follow it.

[Derailedtrain666]

a bit wimpy on the horn.

[nelsonrn]

Yeah, a lot of non-foamers get grumpy when trains blow their horns.

[stuntedcards]

he was doing more then 10 miles more like 25

[stagmie]

Uhhhhmmmmmmmmm.........NO stuntedcards, he WAS NOT doing "more like 25". He WAS going 10 MPH as I said. That was the speed restriction and that's what he was doing.

[stuntedcards]

ok if you say so i meant after he cleared the crossing he picked up speed

[stagmie]

Actually he didn't. The speed restriction was for the whole main through town. He wouldn't have increased speed until a mile further down the track.

[kanjo007]

I've watched enough trains to know that you're right - it picked up speed just as the engines passed the camera (heck, you can even hear the engines rev up). By the end that train was going about 33 - 40 mph, about the same speed limit down the Houston UP branch between I-10 and Alt. 90.

[o00o00ozy]

ATX air tele's are loud, it is the turbine spinning inside. Where I'm from, 'marker' is said too much.

Not too many GE's your way? We have 'em all in the north, I'd be glad to trade for EMD power any day :).

[norfolkdash9]

ow can you tell the difference between GE and EMD?

[o00o00ozy]

GE makes the "Dash" series.

EMD makes the SD's and GP's.

There is a significant difference in the way they look, look up what a Dash-8-40CW looks like and then look up what a GP40-2 looks like... not nearly the same!

[norfolkdash9]

ok thx!

[KCR58]

I really love the horns , I need to say that again !!

[DAKRUPAINATER]

I hear that noice every time a train passes!

[NSAaron]

a couple of my vidoes have those EOT sounds on the Flashing Rear End Device (FRED)

[NSAaron]

OOOOOOOHHHHHHHH. I just love the sound of them T710 locomotive engines throttling up! FANTASTIC! 5 stars!

[Hickthu06]

I think he's referring to the EOT. Railroaders also like to refer to them as markers.

[stagmie]

Oh, ok man. I see. I've been scanning railroads for 10 years and never heard any crews refer to them as markers. Always FRED or EOT "winkin' and a blinkin".

[wsordave]

those markers suck if you've got a short train!

[stagmie]

Uhhmmm.........what? What "markers" are you talking about?

[ibuy4unow]

Hi,

What is the EOT OR (FRED)?

Thanks,

Fellow train fan,

Ibuy4unow

[krnsushi575]

It's a small device attached to the rear end of most common trains. It notifies other trains as it flashes when it's dark.

[Ham549]

It is called a FRED and it does more than that

[nssd70m2]

I wish he would have blown the horn longer ,instead of those short little blasts

[boardman49]

Nice close-up! Is the railroad ok with you placing a camera on railroad property?