Let us pray that the Blessed Mother Mary will help the call of her children from being prosecuted. May God bless and protected the Christians always. Amen.
Should have challenged such pastors to one to one single combat with blades, at least give them an opportunity of proving God's power does exist for them.
@mahender6969 and like you do with widows and anyone who is a christian or muslim. you people are just another organization of terrorists. hopefully some terrorist will burn you and then you can sit there and hehehe.
@flywithmeamerica Really? How? We are Indian like them, we only want to worship our God but yet Hindus won't let us do that and they beat beat and kill us! So whose culture is REALLY being destroyed? If you notice, Hindus do this same crap with internaional religion that enters India (Islam, Christianity, etc.), but yet they teach about peace. Don't be brainwashed! The comment you made was very ignorant!
@devdasrai actually, I posted this comment on the wrong video, sorry. But I do agree, I'm not a nationalist guy like the RSS or anything....most Christians in developed parts of India (Kerala, Goa) are ok. Most violence happens in poorer states. But do realize aggressive missionaries activities are going to piss people off, breaking temples and destroying the sentiments of Hindus to promote Christianity is bad. Like wise, those "Hindus" who burn churches and rape nuns are bad too. Peace, bro.
@butterchicken: Why is every European nation aside from the Basque referred to as INDO Europeans then? To my knowledge Indians (for the most part), Arabs and Europeans (and to a lesser extent Berbers) are all Caucasoid.
@gnomesrule19 Because Aryans migrated from the Caucasus to both Europe, the land of the Arabs, and to the Indian Subcontinent. The term "Indo-European" does not refer to the origins of the peoples- rather, where they went.
shame on this christians taking beating, Stupid swe are the mighty fighters of this world, We screwed every religion kicked everyone ass , Revolt aganist this evil people.
What is common between rich and poor, that God is the Maker of both of them. And, He is always on the side of the poor.................He will ask....U....on the judgement day and none of the material things will save you from His judgement.
This is disgusting. In USA and the rest of the european countries, hindus preach and propagate their religion. Christians dont stop them or beat them or kill them. We are a democratic country where we have right to practice and propagate our religions. Freedom of speech. In the christian democracy they are allowed to propagate there religion. But in India we have hindu terrorist organization and govt. is with them, thats not democracy thats a theocracy of demon worship, oh, 80% of demons.
@Mac6524 don't 'get me'? what 'don't you get'? you seemed to be come across as though Christians are the most tolerant of other Religions & systems of belief.. i was merely showing you that to be total bullshite.
hey, Doc, actually I'm glad you just mentioend that. We christians are the ones who get blamed for all that. People accuse us chrsitians of being the source of the world's problems and of causing all the wars and calamity that goes on in the world. I haven't see nearly as much mention of muslim or hindu extremists or anyone else.
@DocReasonable I know very well that there's a lot of people who will kill in the name of what they believe, but how mnay christians do you personally know that would kill someone over believe in God? We get accused of that, but AI know so many christians who are accepting to non-believers.
@DocReasonable Sure there ar ethose who misused the name of the Lord such as the catholic inquistion, but it doesn't take much common sense to see that those who truly practiced christiantiy were not a bunch of people who killed for not believing in God. Anti-christian people have twisted this around to destroy christianity's reputation. They have fed you this propaganda and you have swallowed their lies.
@DocReasonable lol, I've already tried to explain to him the violence and hate Christians have carelessly smeared onto this world, but now deny it. He'll never get it in his head. He'll keep finding self-satisfying excuses. After that, he'll just be like, "I showed HIM". And then he'll get into his car*, drive* down the concrete road*, and he'll go into his well-lighted* church and pray to his mythological being, reading from books mass produced* through machinery*. He's a delusional prick
@DocReasonable Christians will be bad as long as they continue to spread their ignorance to other people. They are the most dangerous people in the world, who jealously try to claim that all science results from their work and that creation is 'right' and evolution is 'wrong', that the Second Law of Thermodynamics somehow proves our case 'right' and that of the atheist's 'wrong', etc. etc. The spread of scientific illiteracy is more dangerous than terrorism, for they threathen DEVELOPMENT
It concerns me greatly that so many people, especially people in positions of great power, believe in the absurd fallacies and demented moral teachings of the Bible.
@DocReasonable, Faith, Revelations: The One who rides the white horse, His Name is Faithful. Faith His Name is Jesus Christ. So when Faith came in flesh into this world, His little sister Grace of God, came along with Him. And, Grace is free. Grace loves Faith so much, she wants to accompany Faith all the time and Faith wants her too.So it says: God was reconcialing the sins of this world lookin thru the blood of Christ and ther is no sin which cant be cleansed with the blood of Jesus Christ
@DocReasonable If U dont understand me. It simply means, you are blindfaithed, superstitious and simply a fool. Who will say, where is God? And, God is a Spirit, so we worship Him in Spirit.
Only christianity teaches salvation. There is no other religion, which teaches salvation. Your religions are based on sex glorification, bestiality, killing of innocents, blood thirsty demon worship, etc, etc.
@DocReasonable God said : As surely I am a Living God, the judgement day will come. Numbers: God is not a man that He should lie.
Salvation from God's judgement. God also said: I will ask you, if you will trample over Jesus's blood. Eccl: Our God is a consuming fire. When He stands up from His thrown, the creation trembles. He sits above the upper waters in unapproachable lights from us. God says: I am and there is nobody, besides Me there is no other god. Jesus lives and Jesus saves.
@DocReasonable Jesus Christ is not our own GOD nor he came to form religion ,He is for every one, Muslims firmly believe him as the mighty messenger, we followers of him believe him as our savior.If somebody do evil things in Christian name, Jesus told long back abt this false prophets who come in sheep skin..
Sahih Bukhari Volume 3, Book 43, Number 656: Narrated Abu Huraira: Allah's Apostle said, 'The Hour will not be established until the son of Mary (i.e. Jesus) descends amongst you as a just ruler, he will break the cross, KILL THE PIGS, and abolish the Jizya tax. Money will be in abundance so that nobody will accept it (as charitable gifts).
@butterchicken4 Man, I dont like butter chicken. I like to marinate my chicken with spices for an hour and then cook it my way. Butter chicken is too cheesy.
@butterchicken4 Europe was behind in christianity? than how come this many inventions for mankind took place during christian rule?Hindus never allow women and low caste people to sit with them, this is their equality.Hindus cant build proper road for walking since 2000years.We christians united this country and gave them , after Independence they divided into three countries and many states.Christians killed many stupid people not innocent people , because it is required for country developmen
@martyr732 You're completely incorrect. It was only after Christianity was NOT ruling Europe that advancements took place. That's a basic fact of European History. STUDY IT. Christians have done little for India. Don't lie. Hinduism and Islam are what built India. "Christians killed many stupid people not innocent people , because it is required for country development" No, what are you talking about? Atheism 'caused' European downfall? You do know WHY Europe is falling right?
@butterchicken4 Christians united this country which was 400 princeley states, gave hospitals, schools, railways, modern military warfare,Dams for irrigation go around the country u find the developments they gave upto 1947.Due to their developments India was filled with 5 crore jobs which is the pillars of GDP, when they left India country stands 20 th position in the world , now it came down to 120th position.If u take polio drops, that is the invention of Christians..
@martyr732 The British did, yes. Not INDIAN Christians. India is 11th in GDP. What are you smoking? Polio Vaccine was actually developed by Jonas Salk, who was Jewish. If you read his autobiography, he never mentions Yahweh or any supernatural forces, as influence or causes. Christians have developed things. CHRISTIANITY has not. No religion has resulted in ANY development, outside of beautiful architecture. It was people who stepped outside and innovated.
@butterchicken4 U r really an asshole, U blame people of christian origin for wars and other things, when some Christians do it , u twist claiming that Brits, french,Portuguese, who are this ? they united in Christ. Why cant stupid HIndus do it?
show me one hospital existed before christians, Jonas Salk Ethnically he was Jewish but his work is based on Christianity, As Bible says, You can't earn it but you can lose the free gift given from the Father (James 1:17).Polio vaccine was not patented
@martyr732 I'm an asshole for what? Telling the truth? Yeah, that's how it works with theists. Truthfully destroy their fradualent dreams and then you're an asshole. I mean, we're not the ones who insist on relying on scientists from 200 years ago because they are Christian. Science GROWS. We don't lose knowledge (except for those that Christians carelessly destroyed, like Mesoamerican documents). Our knowledge EXPANDS. And during that time, we threw out myths. So theists rely on past scientists
@butterchicken4 Yes science grow by Christians only, why not science developed by other religion people?Jesus Christ preached the way of salvation.Many believes prayed for the epidemics caused by this diseases and GOD answered their prayers.
@martyr732 You want 'proof' that hospitals existed before Christians? Well, first off, if you were properly educated in World History, you would already know that. Anyways 'Christian Hospitals' during the Dark Age were NOTORIOUS for providing TERRIBLE health care. Why do you think Bubonic Plague spread so fast, when Christianity ruled Europe?
@butterchicken4 , why not now? many plagues exited before that we started curing one by one.leprosy, TB,small pox, measles etc Please check this , u can find any other religion people finding cure in this...
@martyr732 If your medicines were so 'great' and you had god 'helping you', why would the disease spread so fast? Small pox, leprosy, measles follow this.
@butterchicken4 ..It spread fast to balance the population.GOD gave only to Human to decision of choice, whether to live or to die.Never u find animals dieing with this diseases.
@martyr732 Christian 'hospitals' were notorious for being unsanatary and filthy. They were a large factor in spreading the desease, first off. Second, many people with Bubonic Plague had PRIESTS come and pray for them, pour holy water, etc, etc. The vast majority died nontheless. "GOD gave only to Human to decision of choice, whether to live or to die" This is an excuse. It always come out. Animals always die of diseases. What are you talking about? Bubonic plague is known to infect rats
@martyr732 Anyways, for proof, visit Harappa in Pakistan. It's an Indus Valley site where archeologists have located what they believe is a hospital. Or read Classical Roman texts and Islamic medicine books. OR, if you can't take the time for that, simply read the Wikipedia article for 'Hospitals'
HAHA!!! Johas Salk's work was based on Christianity? No, his work was based on medical research. Why are you lying?
As the bible says? Why would I care about what a Dark Age fairy tale says?
@DocReasonable that is what u see with ur blind eyes, U must have known spiritual healing which is a part of medicine copied from Holy Bible.U people littering on tube foe passing ur time without knowledge.Stupid always think everything happen around them is a Nonsence.
@martyr732 religion has nothing to do with medicine. If so, go break you leg and pray to god that he will fix it. Or go to a doctor who uses MEDICAL techinques. Why are you crediting Christianity with everything? Please accept the facts. As for Harappa, talk to archeologists. Islam came after Christianity. I SAID that. But their hospitals were developed to a much further extent. As for your 'Rome treats royal only', first off no. Second, it doesn't matter. It was still a hospital
@butterchicken4 they believ its an Hospital but not,Christian hospitals are unsantiray/ Ohh u talking from ur muth r from A>>, How come lakhs of stupid people like ur ancestors got free treatment ? We christians gave good cleanng materials like Phenol, Saop, Antiseptic, Lavotories etc which HIndus used to shit all around and spread diseases.
@martyr732 It's a well known fact that Dark Age Christian Hospitals were filthy and helped spread disease. Modern EUROPEAN hospitals, however, are good. Those developed AFTER Christianity ruled Europe. Who got 'free treatment'? No one gets 'free' treatment. You BUY treatment.
Soap has been used since the Mesopatamians. Indus Valley had the first sewage systems.
"stupid people like ur ancestors... u talking from ur muth r from A>>"
@butterchicken4 than what abt Hindu Hospitals in India , Just throwing some comments which u like, U want me to post some videos on Hindus hospitals , who treat in a Box cabins.How many of ur ancestors used soap? Who introduced soap to ur granny? Without free treatment how ur grannies deliverd fools like u parents ? Do u have money to give them?
@martyr732 lol, I'm simply stating facts. "...Hindus hospitals" This is the thing. You INSIST on bringing Hindus into everything. Sure, healthcare in India isn't the best. But it's a known fact that Dental, plastic, and catarac surgery have taken place in India more than a thousand years ago. As for soap, the Muslims brought soap to India. It's also a known fact that soap was sparsly used in Medieval Europe. It was AFTER the Crusades that Europeans were introduced to soap
@butterchicken4 How can u prove that , dental, plastic and cataract done succefully? Why not the same technology existed now?If so why somany people in Hindu dharmasasatra where blind and polio, It shows what ever u write or prove is just rubbish.
@martyr732 Because technology doesn't always stay. What happened to the great Muslim works of the Abbasid. Your ignorance is incredible. ", It shows what ever u write or prove is just rubbish." lol, this coming form the guy who has repeatidly said bullshit like 'plows are roman', 'Potatoes are Christian based', 'Stalin wasn't atheist', etc. ,etc. Everything I've said is FACT. You simply deny everything I say. want proof, look it up. If you don't believe your own sources, then it's ur prob.
@martyr732 "How can u prove that , dental, plastic and cataract done succefully?" The same way we can 'prove' the works of Newton and Galileo. TEXTS. The technology DOES exist. It's been improved and is still used today. For example, the Indian method for using forehead skin to reconstruct noses, has been the basis for skin grafts. Cataract surgery is performed in a very similar method. "Hindu dharmasasatra" Who cares? It's a story book. Why aren't the discoveries n physics present in the bible?
@martyr732 lol, the British united India under FORCE. Why do you think Christians are a small minority in South Asia? Why do you think there were seperatist movements? Why do you think India SPLIT? Imperialism was not 'uniting' It was CONTROLLINGChristians have started wars. That's a fact. Just accept it and maybe people will respect you. That's the thing. Christians REFUSE to accept facts, whether regarding to Christianity or backing up science. They either childishly ignore it or find excuses.
@butterchicken4 By force r by begging , which u people failed to do it, we always tell the truth and guide others.India required force and kicks, that is the reason after Independence its graph came down rapidly..
@martyr732 "By force r by begging , which u people failed to do it, we always tell the truth and guide others.India required force and kicks, that is the reason after Independence its graph came down rapidly.."
@butterchicken4 Kabaddi(useless game):Pajamas( ohh people used to wear lungi ),Prayer flags,Algebraic abbreviations ( Iranian Al-Zeber), Indigo dye by britishers in Bihar and bengal area,Plough by romans
@martyr732 lol, if you want to push it aside then fine. There are plenty of things on the list. Dyes were Indian. Everyone knows that. Ploughs were developed long before Rome was even in existance in both Mesopatamia and the Indus Valley Civilization. Algebrraic abbreviations were developed by many people, including Indians, ignorant fool. What I don't get is, why are you desperately trying to discredit the works of Indians? Is it just that you can't accept that Christians didn't do everything?
@butterchicken4 It is different between Hindus and Christians stupid a.. hole,They are many Indians who are not Hindus, Indus valley civilization is not formed by Hindus but Dravidians who are not the worshipers of any Hindu gods.
@martyr732 Not all Europeans are Christians either. France and Russia have a large Muslim minority. Before the Holocaust, there were many Jews throughout Europe. Turkey is 99% Muslim, Albania is 70% Muslim, Bosnia is 48% Muslim, Kosovo is 91% Muslim, and Macedonia is 31% Muslim, Montenegro is 18% Muslim, Cyprus is 19% Muslim, etc, etc.
@martyr732 What inventions came during Christian rule? Torture devices? Important devices came during the Age of ENLIGHTENMENT and the Industrial Revolution. You can't change FACTS. Sorry
@butterchicken4 Medicine was another great area of Christian innovation. Sickness was regarded as a condition ordained by Fate in the Hindu and Buddhist religionsBecause Christians believed that the universe is ordered, they created tools by which to measure Time and Space. Clocks, navigational aids, measures, optical advances, watermills and windmills, advances in boat building, in architecture who can overlook the Cathedrals? were all contributions of Christianity.
@martyr732 Actually, no. It is a wellknown fact that HINDUS, during the Gupta, progressed Medicine largely and brought it to Baghdad during the Abbasid, where the Muslims improved it. The Christians got improved medicine, among many things, from there, during and after the Crusades. The Chinese made many of the innovations in boat building and navigation that Christians credit themselves from. The Mughals built some of the most succesful watermills at Fatapur Sikri, etc. etc. etc. Fradulent
@martyr732 Who can overlook the Cathedrals? How about the Taj Mahal? The Great Mosque of Cordoba? The Temples of Tenochtitlan(which Christians destroyed BTW)? Hazara Rama Temple? The Great Buddha in Afganistan (Which Islamic Fanatics Blew up)? Etc, etc. I agree that Cathedrals JOIN the group of great Religous architecture, but I DON'T say they are the best. I don't know which is the best.
@martyr732 Yes, just as you talk about work of Hindus 'couldn't heal people' 1000 years back. Please, just educate yourself before you try to spread more ignorance here. Christianity has NEVER resulted in any kind of advancement. That is evident by the fact that when Christianity ruled Europe, in the Postclassical Era, virutally NO advancments were made. This is a FACT. Medicine is NOT based on Christianity to the slightest extent. Stop crediting yourself with everything
@martyr732 You're giving too much credit to the works of Christians. You're actually quite wrong. The works of scientists have always been built on the works of EARLIER scientists. Christians built their work on those of the Hindus, Greeks and Romans, Chinese, Mayas, and even Muslims, who came later. Today, majority of scientists are nonreligious. There is a reason why.
@butterchicken4 Dont see with the eye of criminal, If some torture events happen during christian rule , doesn't mean Christians made it,what abt communist rule where crores of people killed for no reason.Read HIndu vedas u can find differrent ways of tortures during their vedic period..
@martyr732 Of Course I know what about Hindu caste discrimination and communist revolutions. I talk to Hindo-Muslim fanatics too. But that's not what WE'RE talking about. Stop changing the subject. When Christianity ruled Europe, NOTHING came out of it. Europe was using Feudal and Manoral Systems. There was NO development. It was when people started to EXPLORE and left the "God explains everything" mentality (except for Newton), that things boomed and Europe came to the top.
@butterchicken4 Europe left GOD when? After WWII when their was somuch migration and people started going for celibacy and false preachings.any scientists came from preachers background.Micheal faraday,John dalton,mendelev,Newton etc Only in the Christian cultures, during the ages of faith,Hospitals are a Christian invention; they did not exist before Christianity. The dedication of Christians to the sick laid the foundations of modern medicine.
@martyr732 lol, age of ENLIGHTENMENT. When else? I never said CONVERTED away. I said removed god from the central of science and understanding. Hospitals are not Christian invention, fool. Hospitals existed long before in Classical India, China, and Rome. The Muslims also built them. Christians were not even close to laying the foundation of medicine. This is just more ignorance, piling from your side. Why do Christians also credit themselves with everything? Sorry, but you DIDN'T do that
@butterchicken4 If it is from Hindus, than why didnt they develop? Why cant they epics people drutharastra get cured of his blindness? why cant krishna heal his leg injury? If ran traveled by Air ? where is the Plane wrecks?why HIndu population was so less before Christians came to India?They cant even fight with small army of baber with 1500 soldiers,they cant fight with huns,ratrakutas etc..
@martyr732 lol, even today, we can't heal all forms of blindness. As for your 'Krishna' thing, it's a STORY. The Hindu population was also less when the British left. The Christians lost to the Muslims at Spain and in the Balkans. What I don't understand, is why do you insisit on denying facts? It is well known that Hindus contributed largely to the development in Medicine. It is even documented that Hindus were able to heal Muslim officials that Greeks couldn't.
@butterchicken4 If Hindus contributed largely in medicine why didn't they heal their own kings? dasarath was impotenet for 10,000 years, Drhutharastra was blind and his brother also a sufferer, sakuni was polio,krishna injured his leg and dead.
@martyr732 So Hindu folklore tells you the accomplishments they made? If only you would bother to do some research you'd see for yourself. But, of course, like EVERY other creationist in the book, you don't. You come back here and leave more fraudalent, ignorant, delusional messages. Yes, you are shamelessly teaching your children to reject science and adopt myth. You can 'prove' that I'm an asshole? Well, you didn't really. What you said didn't even make sense
@butterchicken4 If Hindus have done some inventions what is the proof and achievements ? Their language Sanskrit itself not having script.Vegetables like cabbage, cauliflower, carrot, beat root was brought by Moravian Christian missionaries.
@martyr732 Sanskrit has a script. What are you talking about? What part of India are you from? Onions were domesticated in India. Rice was brought from China and has been growing there for 5000 years.nges were domesticated in the Indianized Siam. So what if vegetables were brought by others? Vegetables have to be bred from plants that already exist in the AREA. Christians recieved many vegetables form other civilizations too, like potatoes, tomatoes, rice, sugar, soybean, wheat, peanuts, etc.
@martyr732 "Tell me thj script of sanskrit" ROFLMFAO!!! Everyone knows Sanskrit has a text! What, do you think the vedas were memorized!? And the great stories of Ramayana and Mahabharta, too!? Seriously man, how can you be so ignorant of such an obvious fact? Text of Northern Indian languages are based on Sanskrit text. What part of India are you from man?
@martyr732 "potatoes, green chilli,Tomatoes, sugar, wheat peanuts all r Christian based vegetables" Wow, you are SO ignorant. You haven't even bothered to do research. Potatoes, Chillies, Tomatoes, and Peanuts are all from the AMERICAS. They were bred by NATIVE AMERICANS, not Christians of any kind. Wheat is from Anatolia and it was also grown in Egypt, following the beginning of their dynasties. Sugar is from Papua. If you want European plants, the main ones are lettuce, grapes, and beet.
@DocReasonable Did they kill u grandfather? r u written this story in ur backyard? If some christian kings fight aganist each other for supremacy , it is not the fault of Christians.
@DocReasonable How come u blame that christian killing? Why not HIndus kill their own wives and low caste poeple for their own benefits.Brothers killing each other in mahabharatha and many HIndus GODS fight each other for celibacy...
@martyr732 lol, this has become an ego trip for you. You are desperately trying to point out flaws in Hinduism to jealously protect your fantasy. lol, don't forget Christianity is the same religion that accepts Cannabalism (Matthew 26:26 ), child abuse (I Kings 3:24,25), sexual slavery ( Genesis 16:1-2), slavery as a whole (Exodus 21:20-21), discrimination against race or sexuality ( Leviticus 18:22), genocide (1Samuel 15:1-8), etc etc Stop trying to push of YOUR load on other religions
@butterchicken4 Now can prove that u r really an asshole, who pretends to be sleeping .I can wake up people who are alive and really slept.Now the all those laws should be on u..
1. Stop crediting Christianity with stuff that it didn't do
2. Stop making the ludicrous claim that Christianity had something to do with advancements in science, since anyone with an education in World History knows that science has BUILT up over the years, through many civilizations, mostly NON-Christian
3. Understand that the scientific advances of Europe happened AFTER Christianity was routed and science was seperated, by GALILEO
@martyr732 You're wrong on several accounts. First off, Stalin was raised in the Georgian Orthodox Chruch. Second, he wasn't a 'priest' (although he recieved a scholorship from an orthodox seminary). Third, who cares? He was an athiest in the end. And what does Stalin have to do with anything?
@butterchicken4 Gergoian Orthodox Church came from from Catholic U nigger,He never died Atheist but as communist , both are different. If I am wrong on several accounts post all ..I will answer u...Christians will rule and win ..ANY DOUBT?
@butterchicken4 Catholic with Georgian style of worshipp is Georgian Orthodox Church, He was a trained priest later left ordinal due to its toughest way of living.
@martyr732 "Indus valley civilization is not formed by Hindus but Dravidians who are not the worshipers of any Hindu gods" I know that. I already mentioned it. Why do you act like I didn't? The fact is, you say 'All development results from Christians'. The Indus Valley Civilization was not Christian. The vast majority of civilizations were not Christian. Hindu development in mathematics and sciences is immense. Why do you keep denying it? It's a universally accepted fact, by historians
@butter dude,you are ignoring real facts.science says Indus civilization was created probably 6500 BCE and destroyed near of 2200 BCE.It means harappan n mahenjodaro civilization were created 8150 years ago.But according to now some French scientists Indus civilization destroyed cus of drought not for foreign attack.It also suggests that vedic civilization existed before of Indus civilization because rig veda contains astrological pre-dates from the indus.so,Hinduism exists before of the indus.
@TheShuryansh "Indus civilization destroyed cus of drought not for foreign attack" I'm well aware of this. The Indus Valley Civilization was already WEAKENED when the Aryans arrived. Why else are there isolated Dravidian peoples in Balochistan? The Indus Valley sites have yeilded murtis of non-Hindu gods. The Vedas were written around 2000BCE-1700BCE and caste distinction was visible by 1300BCE. Hinduism did not exist before the Indus. I can tell you that much, regardless of the invasion
@butter If there were similarities in certain features of Indian people and people from Central Europe,then automatic inference drawn was that the Aryans coming from Europe invaded India and settled here.No one dared of thinking in any other way.There is need to gather,dig out,search,unearth and analyze all the evidences,which would throw more light on ancient Indian civilization and culture.
@TheShuryansh "Central Europe" OH! Now I see why you're confused. The theory does NOT suggest that Indo-Europeans migrated from Central Europe. They migrated from the CAUCASUS and West Kazakhstan
@martyr732 " Catholic with Georgian style of worshipp is Georgian Orthodox Church" Not at all. Where did you get this assertion? The Georgian Orthodox Church, first of all, has no connection to the pope, which is, by far, the biggest clue that it is NOT Catholic. In reality, they are headed by Catholicos, like all other Eastern Orthodox Churches. Don't be confused by the name. They are in no way connected to Catholocism. Besides, Georgia also has a CATHOLIC church. Stalin wasn't part of it
@martyr732 Besides, the Georgian Orthodox Church uses Icons, allows priests to marry, etc., etc., things that the Roman Catholic Church does not allow. Joseph Stalin was never a priest. Although, as I said, he was given an education at a seminary, he abandoned it after the seminary raised their admission fee, which he could no longer pay. He never took the exam, and he ended up as a clerk. But of course, he rose to power, after Lenin's death [through some cheating] and he abandoned religion.
@butterchicken4 dude,you need to know more about Hinduism.Aryan invention theory is totally myth.It is the Invasion that never happened.the Aryan invasion theory of India is a myth that owes more to European politics than anything in Indian records or archaeology.Vedic civilization exists before of the evolution of Harappan civilization.you can say Harappan was a part of vedic civilization.Veda civilization started 7000 BCE ago means probably 10000 years ago.
@butterchicken4 An Arya is one who hails from a noble family, of gentle behavior and demeanor, good-natured and of righteous conduct.Aryan Invasion theory has no support whatsoever from Indian records - literary or archaeological.In this Imperial history,India is portrayed as the land “conquered” first by the ‘Dravidians’, then by the ‘Aryans’, later by Muslims, and finally by the British. Otherwise, everything else is mythical. Our history books today exhibit this obsession with foreign rule.
@TheShuryansh The reason there is no 'support in text' is because the Indus Valley Text is yet to be decoded. The genetic similarities, along with lingual, religious, and technological similarities between the peoples of Europe and South Asia really point to the invasion. It makes more sense than proposed theories of articles saying other
@butterchicken4 Genetic similarities!?there is no study says such similarities.Lingual?!do you know that Sanskrit is considered as oldest language and also mother of many western n eastern languages.Religious?!YOU should know that Hinduism is oldest religion on the world.Buddhism,Jainism,Sikhism are off shoot of it.Even jesus went to India to gain knowledge abt Hinduism and his lost years says all.BTW can u say more abt technological similarity?!
@TheShuryansh You're clearly not well informed. There are many studies showing genetic similarities between Indians and Europeans. "do you know that Sanskrit is considered as oldest language and also mother of many western n eastern languages" This is a rumor that is quite rampant in India. In reality, Latin and Sanskrit share many similarities in grammatic structure, word similarities, etc. I'm not talking about Christianity. I'm talking about Greco-Roman, Germanic, Nordic, and Slav Pagananism
@butterchicken4 yes,i know Latin and some of European languages has similarities with Sanskrit.but that does not mean Sanskrit is derived from Latin.why it cant be in reverse way?!you should first remember that Indian civilization is oldest in the planet.then Greece,roman n other civilizations came to exist.Aryan invention is not widely accepted it is widely controversial though out the world.and i'm not a brahmin,me a so called dalit here.
@TheShuryansh It does not mean that Sanskrit 'derived' from Latin. It suggests that BOTH languages evolved from a SINGLE language. The Indo-European Language family is HUGE. Sanskrit and Latin are some of the most significant that resulted in the development of many modern languages like [Sanskrit] Hindi, Bengali, Gujarati, Sindhi, etc and [Latin] Spanish, Italian, etc. With many other members, like German, English, French, Balochi etc.
@TheShuryansh Believe me, the theory is only 'controversial' among some Indians. Westerners accept the theory. So do I. It makes sense. The grammatical similarities point to a common ancestrial language between Latin and Sanskrit. Both are Indo-European. That's why they have so many similarities. Mathematical formulas are written by the Hindu [arabic] numberal system. That's Indian. The Roman Numerals are different. The NUMERAL system, along with text, developed independently of each other
@butterchicken4 i think you should read another book called "The Aryan Invasion: theories, counter-theories and historical significance" - By David Grey. he is a westerner and he also denies the possibilities of any invention to india.
@TheShuryansh Okay, I'll try to find this book at the local Barnes & Nobles. I know about the whole "British made it to control" idea, but I disagree. I think it was simply a discovery. Anglo-Saxons were, indeed Indo-Europeans. But most westerners today will agree that the Indus Valley Civilization was Dravidian. Also, China is a very important civilization that is non-while. Grey's case is fraudalent.
@butterchicken4 The theory that the original Aryans were northern Europeans who had migrated into India was used by some British imperialists as an ideological justification for British control of India, on the grounds that the founders of Indian culture were of the same race as the Anglo-Saxon invaders who established the British Raj.just to show that "there never was a civilized nation of any other complexion than white"-The British philosopher David Hume.
@TheShuryansh I'm talking about the Numeral system that was developed by Hindus, and then brought to Baghdad during the Abbasid, where the Europeans got it. What else? Don't you know what Arabic numerals are?
@butterchicken4 ....of these Indian things in ancient European literature except only chariot.but that does not prove any invasion.no need to say that Indian style chariots were much more different in shape and size from European came before of the European civilization.“The West tried its best to persuade India that its philosophy is absurd, its art puerile, its poetry uninspired, its religion grotesque and its ethics barbarous” - Sir (Dr) Sarvepalli Radhakrishnan.
@TheShuryansh The fact that both civilizations used chariots AT ALL largely points to a connection. But more than chariots, the METAL WORK of the peoples point to a common peoples. Few civilizations at the time could use iron and none to the ability of Indo-Europeans. The styles of construction and work are eerily similar. Lingual, genetic, religious, and technological similarities don't simply point to an 'Aryan Invasion' but an Aryan ASSIMILATION into India. Europe too, was 'invaded'
@butterchicken4 There is no mention of any location outside the mainland of India in any of the Vedic texts! If Aryans came from Europe , then why haven't the so called Aryans mentioned any of the European locations in any of the Vedic or related texts? The farthest location away from India towards the west mentioned in the Vedas is Kadhahar of present day Afghanistan , which was called Gandhar in the Vedic texts and was said to be the kingdom of Shakuni .......
@TheShuryansh It's simple. They could have FORGOTTEN European places. Think about it, Indo-Europeans were pastoral peoples, who migrated with their cows from Central Asia. It would have taken generations. Anyways, Indo-European peoples never built cities or landmarks in there homeland. They moved around. Anyways, Indo-Aryans wrote the Vedas some 200 years after they arrived to India. They had ASSIMILATED
@butterchicken4 no way.while "Sanskrit" was passed to one generation to other generation by only SRUTI and SMRUTI FOR 2000 years,then it's really hard to believe that they had forgotten their mainland!!!Even "they have forgotten" is only guess not logical.that's why i said It was the invasion which was never happened.
@TheShuryansh "The aboriginals would be a good target group for conversion to Christianity. They have yet to start on the path of progress. It remains for us to decide whether the path is to lead them to Hinduism, or the purer faith and civilization which we represent."
(source: The Invasion That Never Was - By Michel Danino)
@TheShuryansh "They have forgotten" is a guess that goes along perfectly with all the other lingual, technological, and genetic evidence. Sanskrit did not exist until the Aryans arrived to India. Why do you think there are differences between Latin and Sanskrit? Man, you make such rudimentary assumptions. lol, rivers are important from ancient civilizations. Correct. But the Indo-Europeans were not a 'civilization'. They were nomadic peoples who roamed with their cattle. Don't you know this?
@TheShuryansh ROLF. Sorry, there is an abundance of proof suggesting the Aryan Migration theory. Anyways, it's not globalization, with me. It's EDUCATION. I'm not the one who dies to wear 'American Eagle' and 'Puma' and am obsessed with Hindi 'rap'. Despite living in USA, I maintain my Indian heritage. By presenting quotes, btw, you're presenting an OPINION. Not a fact. Quotations don't prove anything. Anyways, you can fool yourself into not believing a well-substaniated theory, if u want
@butterchicken4 yeah,you are now making your own previous comment false.just like you said "they have forgotten",which is only miraculously proving Aryan invasion right while the first point to note is that the idea of the Aryans as foreigners who invaded India and destroyed the existing Harappan Civilization is a modern European invention; it receives no support whatsoever from Indian records - literary or archaeological.
@TheShuryansh "you are now making your own previous comment false.just like you said" How so? I said they wouldn't have remembered specific parts of their homeland because they were pastoralists who never lived in specific places. They DID NOT 'destroy' Harappa. It had already fallen apart. It doesn't recieve support because they Harappan text is yet to be decoded, and Sanskrit didn't form at the time. "Truth is what it is not what you want it to be" I think you should take your own advice
@butterchicken4 1-why you giving your comments regarding The Western European area as a fixed pole.
2-Aryan invasion theory clearly says that a race called Aryan migrated to India and destroyed existed civilization because Aryan were great than the local tribe.
3-why it cant be the reverse?!like,Indian civilization spread to Afghanistan and Persia and further west from India!It is also a appropriate answer to all the question.
Let us pray that the Blessed Mother Mary will help the call of her children from being prosecuted. May God bless and protected the Christians always. Amen.
kedah5555 1 week ago
OK lets blame the Muslims!!!!
bustedmaher 1 month ago
Have the courtesy of letting them die like warriors or samurais at least.
birminmin 2 months ago
Should have challenged such pastors to one to one single combat with blades, at least give them an opportunity of proving God's power does exist for them.
birminmin 2 months ago
another Oscar worthy drama by Christians!
avatarmingtien 2 months ago
hehehehehe, beat the dame christian, burn him alive, like they did, in usa witch burning.
mahender6969 3 months ago
@mahender6969 and like you do with widows and anyone who is a christian or muslim. you people are just another organization of terrorists. hopefully some terrorist will burn you and then you can sit there and hehehe.
SuperNymous 1 month ago
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''You will be hated by all nations for My names' sake''
allenshcweitzer 7 months ago
These idiots, Christians are destroying Hindu culture.
flywithmeamerica 8 months ago
@flywithmeamerica Really? How? We are Indian like them, we only want to worship our God but yet Hindus won't let us do that and they beat beat and kill us! So whose culture is REALLY being destroyed? If you notice, Hindus do this same crap with internaional religion that enters India (Islam, Christianity, etc.), but yet they teach about peace. Don't be brainwashed! The comment you made was very ignorant!
devdasrai 3 months ago
@devdasrai actually, I posted this comment on the wrong video, sorry. But I do agree, I'm not a nationalist guy like the RSS or anything....most Christians in developed parts of India (Kerala, Goa) are ok. Most violence happens in poorer states. But do realize aggressive missionaries activities are going to piss people off, breaking temples and destroying the sentiments of Hindus to promote Christianity is bad. Like wise, those "Hindus" who burn churches and rape nuns are bad too. Peace, bro.
flywithmeamerica 3 months ago
hindu militants? that doesnt even make sense. Isn't Hinduism suppose to be about peace and love of all creatures?
a1awind 8 months ago 4
@a1awind it was until muslim and we thought you were some
snakemast66 4 months ago
@a1awind There have been fucking Buddhist militants man.. lol, they arent supposed to kill a cricket for fear of hell, doesn't seem to matter.
Klaus1386 4 months ago
forgive them lord they still dont know what they are doing :( amen
warlocks970 9 months ago 7
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@warlocks970
lol. You idiot.
Parabol0086 8 months ago
@butterchicken: Why is every European nation aside from the Basque referred to as INDO Europeans then? To my knowledge Indians (for the most part), Arabs and Europeans (and to a lesser extent Berbers) are all Caucasoid.
gnomesrule19 10 months ago
@gnomesrule19 Because Aryans migrated from the Caucasus to both Europe, the land of the Arabs, and to the Indian Subcontinent. The term "Indo-European" does not refer to the origins of the peoples- rather, where they went.
butterchicken4 10 months ago
shame on this christians taking beating, Stupid swe are the mighty fighters of this world, We screwed every religion kicked everyone ass , Revolt aganist this evil people.
martyr732 1 year ago
What is common between rich and poor, that God is the Maker of both of them. And, He is always on the side of the poor.................He will ask....U....on the judgement day and none of the material things will save you from His judgement.
Mac6524 1 year ago
This is disgusting. In USA and the rest of the european countries, hindus preach and propagate their religion. Christians dont stop them or beat them or kill them. We are a democratic country where we have right to practice and propagate our religions. Freedom of speech. In the christian democracy they are allowed to propagate there religion. But in India we have hindu terrorist organization and govt. is with them, thats not democracy thats a theocracy of demon worship, oh, 80% of demons.
Mac6524 1 year ago
@Mac6524 /watch?v=cFc3rCXgzUQ
there's Christian tolerance for ya'. -:o)
AnkHknA 1 year ago
@AnkHknA , I dont get U my brother.
Mac6524 1 year ago
@Mac6524 don't 'get me'? what 'don't you get'? you seemed to be come across as though Christians are the most tolerant of other Religions & systems of belief.. i was merely showing you that to be total bullshite.
AnkHknA 1 year ago
@AnkHknA, Do you live on earth? You sound like a marcian or some alien kinda. U dont know christians. May be, you may be an alien on earth.
Mac6524 1 year ago
@AnkHknA, I still dont get U, buddy.
Mac6524 1 year ago
@Mac6524 what exactly 'don't you get'? of course, in another context.. you're right,there is absolutely NO CHANCE you get me, as i'm taken. sorry.
AnkHknA 1 year ago
@AnkHknA Take it easy buddy. I dont hate U. I am a xian.
Mac6524 1 year ago
hey, Doc, actually I'm glad you just mentioend that. We christians are the ones who get blamed for all that. People accuse us chrsitians of being the source of the world's problems and of causing all the wars and calamity that goes on in the world. I haven't see nearly as much mention of muslim or hindu extremists or anyone else.
777jsca 1 year ago
@777jsca
ALL religious groups have been known to kill in the name of their beliefs.
Do you deny that?
DocReasonable 1 year ago
@DocReasonable I know very well that there's a lot of people who will kill in the name of what they believe, but how mnay christians do you personally know that would kill someone over believe in God? We get accused of that, but AI know so many christians who are accepting to non-believers.
777jsca 1 year ago
@777jsca
Christians have been killing in the name of god/jesus for nearly 2,000 years.... are you really THAT uninformed?
DocReasonable 1 year ago
@DocReasonable Sure there ar ethose who misused the name of the Lord such as the catholic inquistion, but it doesn't take much common sense to see that those who truly practiced christiantiy were not a bunch of people who killed for not believing in God. Anti-christian people have twisted this around to destroy christianity's reputation. They have fed you this propaganda and you have swallowed their lies.
777jsca 1 year ago
@DocReasonable lol, I've already tried to explain to him the violence and hate Christians have carelessly smeared onto this world, but now deny it. He'll never get it in his head. He'll keep finding self-satisfying excuses. After that, he'll just be like, "I showed HIM". And then he'll get into his car*, drive* down the concrete road*, and he'll go into his well-lighted* church and pray to his mythological being, reading from books mass produced* through machinery*. He's a delusional prick
butterchicken4 1 year ago
@butterchicken4
It's like talking to a neo-Nazi who says 'Well, maybe we USED TO be bad but we're nice now'.
A complete FALLACY!
DocReasonable 1 year ago
@DocReasonable Christians will be bad as long as they continue to spread their ignorance to other people. They are the most dangerous people in the world, who jealously try to claim that all science results from their work and that creation is 'right' and evolution is 'wrong', that the Second Law of Thermodynamics somehow proves our case 'right' and that of the atheist's 'wrong', etc. etc. The spread of scientific illiteracy is more dangerous than terrorism, for they threathen DEVELOPMENT
butterchicken4 1 year ago
@butterchicken4
It concerns me greatly that so many people, especially people in positions of great power, believe in the absurd fallacies and demented moral teachings of the Bible.
DocReasonable 1 year ago
@DocReasonable U can come to my house and polish my boots and then I will teach U our faith.
Mac6524 1 year ago
@Mac6524
I know your faith, it's a load of twisted, moronic garbage. Watch out for demons next time you pray -- that is all.
DocReasonable 1 year ago
@DocReasonable I see many demons in u please smash ur head on some gutter..
martyr732 1 year ago
@martyr732
You will see a demon EVERY time you pray from now on. It is done.
Enjoy.
DocReasonable 1 year ago
@DocReasonable, Faith, Revelations: The One who rides the white horse, His Name is Faithful. Faith His Name is Jesus Christ. So when Faith came in flesh into this world, His little sister Grace of God, came along with Him. And, Grace is free. Grace loves Faith so much, she wants to accompany Faith all the time and Faith wants her too.So it says: God was reconcialing the sins of this world lookin thru the blood of Christ and ther is no sin which cant be cleansed with the blood of Jesus Christ
Mac6524 1 year ago
@Mac6524
If you're just going to speak complete nonsense can you put in a disclaimer next time?
DocReasonable 1 year ago
@DocReasonable If U dont understand me. It simply means, you are blindfaithed, superstitious and simply a fool. Who will say, where is God? And, God is a Spirit, so we worship Him in Spirit.
Only christianity teaches salvation. There is no other religion, which teaches salvation. Your religions are based on sex glorification, bestiality, killing of innocents, blood thirsty demon worship, etc, etc.
Mac6524 1 year ago
@Mac6524
I'm NOT RELIGIOUS, you damned imbecile. Christianity teaches salvation, you say? Salvation from WHOM? From your OWN GOD HIMSELF!
It is no different than a man who beats his wife but will stop if she OBEYS and does everything exactly as he says.
DocReasonable 1 year ago
@DocReasonable God said : As surely I am a Living God, the judgement day will come. Numbers: God is not a man that He should lie.
Salvation from God's judgement. God also said: I will ask you, if you will trample over Jesus's blood. Eccl: Our God is a consuming fire. When He stands up from His thrown, the creation trembles. He sits above the upper waters in unapproachable lights from us. God says: I am and there is nobody, besides Me there is no other god. Jesus lives and Jesus saves.
Mac6524 1 year ago
@DocReasonable Jesus Christ is not our own GOD nor he came to form religion ,He is for every one, Muslims firmly believe him as the mighty messenger, we followers of him believe him as our savior.If somebody do evil things in Christian name, Jesus told long back abt this false prophets who come in sheep skin..
martyr732 1 year ago
@martyr732
Muslims believe that Jesus (Isa) is an avenging angel of Allah who is going to force everyone to convert to Islam by the sword!!
Are you SURE you agree with that and want to boast about it?
DocReasonable 1 year ago
@DocReasonable Muslims beleive that ISA is an mighty messenger of all , but not by sword, quote some verses from Holy Quran to prove.
martyr732 1 year ago
@martyr732
Sahih Bukhari Volume 3, Book 43, Number 656: Narrated Abu Huraira: Allah's Apostle said, 'The Hour will not be established until the son of Mary (i.e. Jesus) descends amongst you as a just ruler, he will break the cross, KILL THE PIGS, and abolish the Jizya tax. Money will be in abundance so that nobody will accept it (as charitable gifts).
DocReasonable 1 year ago
@DocReasonable He is not a prophet only a preacher , we never took serious notes of preachers
martyr732 1 year ago
@martyr732
According to Islam, Jesus (Isa) is a PROPHET of Allah.
DocReasonable 1 year ago
@butterchicken4 Man, I dont like butter chicken. I like to marinate my chicken with spices for an hour and then cook it my way. Butter chicken is too cheesy.
Tell me what is your belief?
Mac6524 1 year ago
@butterchicken4 Europe was behind in christianity? than how come this many inventions for mankind took place during christian rule?Hindus never allow women and low caste people to sit with them, this is their equality.Hindus cant build proper road for walking since 2000years.We christians united this country and gave them , after Independence they divided into three countries and many states.Christians killed many stupid people not innocent people , because it is required for country developmen
martyr732 1 year ago
@martyr732 You're completely incorrect. It was only after Christianity was NOT ruling Europe that advancements took place. That's a basic fact of European History. STUDY IT. Christians have done little for India. Don't lie. Hinduism and Islam are what built India. "Christians killed many stupid people not innocent people , because it is required for country development" No, what are you talking about? Atheism 'caused' European downfall? You do know WHY Europe is falling right?
butterchicken4 1 year ago
@butterchicken4 Christians united this country which was 400 princeley states, gave hospitals, schools, railways, modern military warfare,Dams for irrigation go around the country u find the developments they gave upto 1947.Due to their developments India was filled with 5 crore jobs which is the pillars of GDP, when they left India country stands 20 th position in the world , now it came down to 120th position.If u take polio drops, that is the invention of Christians..
martyr732 1 year ago
@martyr732 The British did, yes. Not INDIAN Christians. India is 11th in GDP. What are you smoking? Polio Vaccine was actually developed by Jonas Salk, who was Jewish. If you read his autobiography, he never mentions Yahweh or any supernatural forces, as influence or causes. Christians have developed things. CHRISTIANITY has not. No religion has resulted in ANY development, outside of beautiful architecture. It was people who stepped outside and innovated.
butterchicken4 1 year ago
@butterchicken4 U r really an asshole, U blame people of christian origin for wars and other things, when some Christians do it , u twist claiming that Brits, french,Portuguese, who are this ? they united in Christ. Why cant stupid HIndus do it?
show me one hospital existed before christians, Jonas Salk Ethnically he was Jewish but his work is based on Christianity, As Bible says, You can't earn it but you can lose the free gift given from the Father (James 1:17).Polio vaccine was not patented
martyr732 1 year ago
@martyr732 I'm an asshole for what? Telling the truth? Yeah, that's how it works with theists. Truthfully destroy their fradualent dreams and then you're an asshole. I mean, we're not the ones who insist on relying on scientists from 200 years ago because they are Christian. Science GROWS. We don't lose knowledge (except for those that Christians carelessly destroyed, like Mesoamerican documents). Our knowledge EXPANDS. And during that time, we threw out myths. So theists rely on past scientists
butterchicken4 1 year ago
@butterchicken4 Yes science grow by Christians only, why not science developed by other religion people?Jesus Christ preached the way of salvation.Many believes prayed for the epidemics caused by this diseases and GOD answered their prayers.
martyr732 1 year ago
@martyr732
Do a Google search for 'Jesus prophet of Allah' and you will find much confirmation that this IS Islamic doctrine.
DocReasonable 1 year ago
@martyr732 "science grows by Christians only"
An education. Get one
butterchicken4 1 year ago
@martyr732 You want 'proof' that hospitals existed before Christians? Well, first off, if you were properly educated in World History, you would already know that. Anyways 'Christian Hospitals' during the Dark Age were NOTORIOUS for providing TERRIBLE health care. Why do you think Bubonic Plague spread so fast, when Christianity ruled Europe?
butterchicken4 1 year ago
@butterchicken4 , why not now? many plagues exited before that we started curing one by one.leprosy, TB,small pox, measles etc Please check this , u can find any other religion people finding cure in this...
martyr732 1 year ago
@martyr732 If your medicines were so 'great' and you had god 'helping you', why would the disease spread so fast? Small pox, leprosy, measles follow this.
butterchicken4 1 year ago
@butterchicken4 ..It spread fast to balance the population.GOD gave only to Human to decision of choice, whether to live or to die.Never u find animals dieing with this diseases.
martyr732 1 year ago
@martyr732 Christian 'hospitals' were notorious for being unsanatary and filthy. They were a large factor in spreading the desease, first off. Second, many people with Bubonic Plague had PRIESTS come and pray for them, pour holy water, etc, etc. The vast majority died nontheless. "GOD gave only to Human to decision of choice, whether to live or to die" This is an excuse. It always come out. Animals always die of diseases. What are you talking about? Bubonic plague is known to infect rats
butterchicken4 1 year ago
@martyr732 Anyways, for proof, visit Harappa in Pakistan. It's an Indus Valley site where archeologists have located what they believe is a hospital. Or read Classical Roman texts and Islamic medicine books. OR, if you can't take the time for that, simply read the Wikipedia article for 'Hospitals'
HAHA!!! Johas Salk's work was based on Christianity? No, his work was based on medical research. Why are you lying?
As the bible says? Why would I care about what a Dark Age fairy tale says?
butterchicken4 1 year ago
@butterchicken4 Medical research is based on Christian faith to help people live happily without sufferings..
martyr732 1 year ago
@martyr732
The Christian idea of 'medicine' is the laying on of hands and praying to get rid of demons.
It's nonsense, by the way.
DocReasonable 1 year ago
@DocReasonable that is what u see with ur blind eyes, U must have known spiritual healing which is a part of medicine copied from Holy Bible.U people littering on tube foe passing ur time without knowledge.Stupid always think everything happen around them is a Nonsence.
martyr732 1 year ago
@martyr732
I would say the STUPID one is YOU, with your incoherent illiterate rambling, Mr Moron.
DocReasonable 1 year ago
@martyr732 religion has nothing to do with medicine. If so, go break you leg and pray to god that he will fix it. Or go to a doctor who uses MEDICAL techinques. Why are you crediting Christianity with everything? Please accept the facts. As for Harappa, talk to archeologists. Islam came after Christianity. I SAID that. But their hospitals were developed to a much further extent. As for your 'Rome treats royal only', first off no. Second, it doesn't matter. It was still a hospital
butterchicken4 1 year ago
@butterchicken4 so harappa got hospital? what r the medicines they use? how do they treat people?
martyr732 1 year ago
@butterchicken4 Stupid, Islam came after Christianity,Romans treat only the royals not the ordinary people.
martyr732 1 year ago
@butterchicken4 they believ its an Hospital but not,Christian hospitals are unsantiray/ Ohh u talking from ur muth r from A>>, How come lakhs of stupid people like ur ancestors got free treatment ? We christians gave good cleanng materials like Phenol, Saop, Antiseptic, Lavotories etc which HIndus used to shit all around and spread diseases.
martyr732 1 year ago
@martyr732 It's a well known fact that Dark Age Christian Hospitals were filthy and helped spread disease. Modern EUROPEAN hospitals, however, are good. Those developed AFTER Christianity ruled Europe. Who got 'free treatment'? No one gets 'free' treatment. You BUY treatment.
Soap has been used since the Mesopatamians. Indus Valley had the first sewage systems.
"stupid people like ur ancestors... u talking from ur muth r from A>>"
What's wrong? Are you mad that I'm right? lol
butterchicken4 1 year ago
@butterchicken4 than what abt Hindu Hospitals in India , Just throwing some comments which u like, U want me to post some videos on Hindus hospitals , who treat in a Box cabins.How many of ur ancestors used soap? Who introduced soap to ur granny? Without free treatment how ur grannies deliverd fools like u parents ? Do u have money to give them?
martyr732 1 year ago
@martyr732 lol, I'm simply stating facts. "...Hindus hospitals" This is the thing. You INSIST on bringing Hindus into everything. Sure, healthcare in India isn't the best. But it's a known fact that Dental, plastic, and catarac surgery have taken place in India more than a thousand years ago. As for soap, the Muslims brought soap to India. It's also a known fact that soap was sparsly used in Medieval Europe. It was AFTER the Crusades that Europeans were introduced to soap
butterchicken4 1 year ago
@butterchicken4 How can u prove that , dental, plastic and cataract done succefully? Why not the same technology existed now?If so why somany people in Hindu dharmasasatra where blind and polio, It shows what ever u write or prove is just rubbish.
martyr732 1 year ago
@martyr732 Because technology doesn't always stay. What happened to the great Muslim works of the Abbasid. Your ignorance is incredible. ", It shows what ever u write or prove is just rubbish." lol, this coming form the guy who has repeatidly said bullshit like 'plows are roman', 'Potatoes are Christian based', 'Stalin wasn't atheist', etc. ,etc. Everything I've said is FACT. You simply deny everything I say. want proof, look it up. If you don't believe your own sources, then it's ur prob.
butterchicken4 1 year ago
@martyr732 "How can u prove that , dental, plastic and cataract done succefully?" The same way we can 'prove' the works of Newton and Galileo. TEXTS. The technology DOES exist. It's been improved and is still used today. For example, the Indian method for using forehead skin to reconstruct noses, has been the basis for skin grafts. Cataract surgery is performed in a very similar method. "Hindu dharmasasatra" Who cares? It's a story book. Why aren't the discoveries n physics present in the bible?
butterchicken4 1 year ago
@martyr732 lol, the British united India under FORCE. Why do you think Christians are a small minority in South Asia? Why do you think there were seperatist movements? Why do you think India SPLIT? Imperialism was not 'uniting' It was CONTROLLINGChristians have started wars. That's a fact. Just accept it and maybe people will respect you. That's the thing. Christians REFUSE to accept facts, whether regarding to Christianity or backing up science. They either childishly ignore it or find excuses.
butterchicken4 1 year ago
@butterchicken4 By force r by begging , which u people failed to do it, we always tell the truth and guide others.India required force and kicks, that is the reason after Independence its graph came down rapidly..
martyr732 1 year ago
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@martyr732 "By force r by begging , which u people failed to do it, we always tell the truth and guide others.India required force and kicks, that is the reason after Independence its graph came down rapidly.."
You're an idiot
butterchicken4 1 year ago
@butterchicken4 Kabaddi(useless game):Pajamas( ohh people used to wear lungi ),Prayer flags,Algebraic abbreviations ( Iranian Al-Zeber), Indigo dye by britishers in Bihar and bengal area,Plough by romans
Please dont make me laugh by this wikipedia....
martyr732 1 year ago
@martyr732 lol, if you want to push it aside then fine. There are plenty of things on the list. Dyes were Indian. Everyone knows that. Ploughs were developed long before Rome was even in existance in both Mesopatamia and the Indus Valley Civilization. Algebrraic abbreviations were developed by many people, including Indians, ignorant fool. What I don't get is, why are you desperately trying to discredit the works of Indians? Is it just that you can't accept that Christians didn't do everything?
butterchicken4 1 year ago
@butterchicken4 It is different between Hindus and Christians stupid a.. hole,They are many Indians who are not Hindus, Indus valley civilization is not formed by Hindus but Dravidians who are not the worshipers of any Hindu gods.
martyr732 1 year ago
@martyr732 Not all Europeans are Christians either. France and Russia have a large Muslim minority. Before the Holocaust, there were many Jews throughout Europe. Turkey is 99% Muslim, Albania is 70% Muslim, Bosnia is 48% Muslim, Kosovo is 91% Muslim, and Macedonia is 31% Muslim, Montenegro is 18% Muslim, Cyprus is 19% Muslim, etc, etc.
butterchicken4 1 year ago
@martyr732 What inventions came during Christian rule? Torture devices? Important devices came during the Age of ENLIGHTENMENT and the Industrial Revolution. You can't change FACTS. Sorry
butterchicken4 1 year ago
@butterchicken4 Medicine was another great area of Christian innovation. Sickness was regarded as a condition ordained by Fate in the Hindu and Buddhist religionsBecause Christians believed that the universe is ordered, they created tools by which to measure Time and Space. Clocks, navigational aids, measures, optical advances, watermills and windmills, advances in boat building, in architecture who can overlook the Cathedrals? were all contributions of Christianity.
martyr732 1 year ago
@martyr732 Actually, no. It is a wellknown fact that HINDUS, during the Gupta, progressed Medicine largely and brought it to Baghdad during the Abbasid, where the Muslims improved it. The Christians got improved medicine, among many things, from there, during and after the Crusades. The Chinese made many of the innovations in boat building and navigation that Christians credit themselves from. The Mughals built some of the most succesful watermills at Fatapur Sikri, etc. etc. etc. Fradulent
butterchicken4 1 year ago
@martyr732 Who can overlook the Cathedrals? How about the Taj Mahal? The Great Mosque of Cordoba? The Temples of Tenochtitlan(which Christians destroyed BTW)? Hazara Rama Temple? The Great Buddha in Afganistan (Which Islamic Fanatics Blew up)? Etc, etc. I agree that Cathedrals JOIN the group of great Religous architecture, but I DON'T say they are the best. I don't know which is the best.
butterchicken4 1 year ago
@butterchicken4 u talk about the work done 400-500 years back? Ohh u only shooting around the bush.
martyr732 1 year ago
@martyr732 Yes, just as you talk about work of Hindus 'couldn't heal people' 1000 years back. Please, just educate yourself before you try to spread more ignorance here. Christianity has NEVER resulted in any kind of advancement. That is evident by the fact that when Christianity ruled Europe, in the Postclassical Era, virutally NO advancments were made. This is a FACT. Medicine is NOT based on Christianity to the slightest extent. Stop crediting yourself with everything
butterchicken4 1 year ago
@martyr732 You're giving too much credit to the works of Christians. You're actually quite wrong. The works of scientists have always been built on the works of EARLIER scientists. Christians built their work on those of the Hindus, Greeks and Romans, Chinese, Mayas, and even Muslims, who came later. Today, majority of scientists are nonreligious. There is a reason why.
butterchicken4 1 year ago
@butterchicken4 Dont see with the eye of criminal, If some torture events happen during christian rule , doesn't mean Christians made it,what abt communist rule where crores of people killed for no reason.Read HIndu vedas u can find differrent ways of tortures during their vedic period..
martyr732 1 year ago
@martyr732 Of Course I know what about Hindu caste discrimination and communist revolutions. I talk to Hindo-Muslim fanatics too. But that's not what WE'RE talking about. Stop changing the subject. When Christianity ruled Europe, NOTHING came out of it. Europe was using Feudal and Manoral Systems. There was NO development. It was when people started to EXPLORE and left the "God explains everything" mentality (except for Newton), that things boomed and Europe came to the top.
butterchicken4 1 year ago
@butterchicken4 Europe left GOD when? After WWII when their was somuch migration and people started going for celibacy and false preachings.any scientists came from preachers background.Micheal faraday,John dalton,mendelev,Newton etc Only in the Christian cultures, during the ages of faith,Hospitals are a Christian invention; they did not exist before Christianity. The dedication of Christians to the sick laid the foundations of modern medicine.
martyr732 1 year ago
@martyr732 lol, age of ENLIGHTENMENT. When else? I never said CONVERTED away. I said removed god from the central of science and understanding. Hospitals are not Christian invention, fool. Hospitals existed long before in Classical India, China, and Rome. The Muslims also built them. Christians were not even close to laying the foundation of medicine. This is just more ignorance, piling from your side. Why do Christians also credit themselves with everything? Sorry, but you DIDN'T do that
butterchicken4 1 year ago
@butterchicken4 If it is from Hindus, than why didnt they develop? Why cant they epics people drutharastra get cured of his blindness? why cant krishna heal his leg injury? If ran traveled by Air ? where is the Plane wrecks?why HIndu population was so less before Christians came to India?They cant even fight with small army of baber with 1500 soldiers,they cant fight with huns,ratrakutas etc..
martyr732 1 year ago
@martyr732 lol, even today, we can't heal all forms of blindness. As for your 'Krishna' thing, it's a STORY. The Hindu population was also less when the British left. The Christians lost to the Muslims at Spain and in the Balkans. What I don't understand, is why do you insisit on denying facts? It is well known that Hindus contributed largely to the development in Medicine. It is even documented that Hindus were able to heal Muslim officials that Greeks couldn't.
butterchicken4 1 year ago
@butterchicken4 If Hindus contributed largely in medicine why didn't they heal their own kings? dasarath was impotenet for 10,000 years, Drhutharastra was blind and his brother also a sufferer, sakuni was polio,krishna injured his leg and dead.
martyr732 1 year ago
@martyr732 So Hindu folklore tells you the accomplishments they made? If only you would bother to do some research you'd see for yourself. But, of course, like EVERY other creationist in the book, you don't. You come back here and leave more fraudalent, ignorant, delusional messages. Yes, you are shamelessly teaching your children to reject science and adopt myth. You can 'prove' that I'm an asshole? Well, you didn't really. What you said didn't even make sense
butterchicken4 1 year ago
@butterchicken4 If Hindus have done some inventions what is the proof and achievements ? Their language Sanskrit itself not having script.Vegetables like cabbage, cauliflower, carrot, beat root was brought by Moravian Christian missionaries.
martyr732 1 year ago
@martyr732 Sanskrit has a script. What are you talking about? What part of India are you from? Onions were domesticated in India. Rice was brought from China and has been growing there for 5000 years.nges were domesticated in the Indianized Siam. So what if vegetables were brought by others? Vegetables have to be bred from plants that already exist in the AREA. Christians recieved many vegetables form other civilizations too, like potatoes, tomatoes, rice, sugar, soybean, wheat, peanuts, etc.
butterchicken4 1 year ago
@butterchicken4 .nges* oranges were domes...
butterchicken4 1 year ago
@butterchicken4 ...k Tell me thj script of sanskrit? potatoes, green chilli,Tomatoes, sugar, wheat peanuts all r Christian based vegetables
martyr732 1 year ago
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@martyr732 "Tell me thj script of sanskrit" ROFLMFAO!!! Everyone knows Sanskrit has a text! What, do you think the vedas were memorized!? And the great stories of Ramayana and Mahabharta, too!? Seriously man, how can you be so ignorant of such an obvious fact? Text of Northern Indian languages are based on Sanskrit text. What part of India are you from man?
butterchicken4 1 year ago
@butterchicken4 and Mahabharta* Mahabharata
butterchicken4 1 year ago
@martyr732 "potatoes, green chilli,Tomatoes, sugar, wheat peanuts all r Christian based vegetables" Wow, you are SO ignorant. You haven't even bothered to do research. Potatoes, Chillies, Tomatoes, and Peanuts are all from the AMERICAS. They were bred by NATIVE AMERICANS, not Christians of any kind. Wheat is from Anatolia and it was also grown in Egypt, following the beginning of their dynasties. Sugar is from Papua. If you want European plants, the main ones are lettuce, grapes, and beet.
butterchicken4 1 year ago
@martyr732 Want proof? Just look it up! Ever thought of that!?
Read Wikipedia article "List of Indian Inventions and Discoveries"
butterchicken4 1 year ago
@DocReasonable Did they kill u grandfather? r u written this story in ur backyard? If some christian kings fight aganist each other for supremacy , it is not the fault of Christians.
martyr732 1 year ago
@martyr732
Try making SENSE, you moron.
DocReasonable 1 year ago
@DocReasonable How come u blame that christian killing? Why not HIndus kill their own wives and low caste poeple for their own benefits.Brothers killing each other in mahabharatha and many HIndus GODS fight each other for celibacy...
martyr732 1 year ago
@martyr732 lol, this has become an ego trip for you. You are desperately trying to point out flaws in Hinduism to jealously protect your fantasy. lol, don't forget Christianity is the same religion that accepts Cannabalism (Matthew 26:26 ), child abuse (I Kings 3:24,25), sexual slavery ( Genesis 16:1-2), slavery as a whole (Exodus 21:20-21), discrimination against race or sexuality ( Leviticus 18:22), genocide (1Samuel 15:1-8), etc etc Stop trying to push of YOUR load on other religions
butterchicken4 1 year ago
@butterchicken4 Now can prove that u r really an asshole, who pretends to be sleeping .I can wake up people who are alive and really slept.Now the all those laws should be on u..
martyr732 1 year ago
@martyr732 A few suggestions
1. Stop crediting Christianity with stuff that it didn't do
2. Stop making the ludicrous claim that Christianity had something to do with advancements in science, since anyone with an education in World History knows that science has BUILT up over the years, through many civilizations, mostly NON-Christian
3. Understand that the scientific advances of Europe happened AFTER Christianity was routed and science was seperated, by GALILEO
4. Stop spewing ur load
butterchicken4 1 year ago
@butterchicken4 Truth is Truth we will rule with truth, Ur communist policies came from our Bible .Stalin was a trained Catholic Priest.
martyr732 1 year ago
@martyr732 You're wrong on several accounts. First off, Stalin was raised in the Georgian Orthodox Chruch. Second, he wasn't a 'priest' (although he recieved a scholorship from an orthodox seminary). Third, who cares? He was an athiest in the end. And what does Stalin have to do with anything?
butterchicken4 1 year ago
@butterchicken4 Gergoian Orthodox Church came from from Catholic U nigger,He never died Atheist but as communist , both are different. If I am wrong on several accounts post all ..I will answer u...Christians will rule and win ..ANY DOUBT?
martyr732 1 year ago
@martyr732 "Gergoian Orthodox Church came from from Catholic" So what? Stalin was never in his life Roman Catholic.
Stalin was an atheist and a communist. Are you that ignorant?
"U nigger" lol, looks like I made you mad. It's not rare for Christians to start attacking others when they realize their case is fraudalent.
Yes, I have doubt.
butterchicken4 1 year ago
@butterchicken4 Catholic with Georgian style of worshipp is Georgian Orthodox Church, He was a trained priest later left ordinal due to its toughest way of living.
martyr732 1 year ago
@martyr732 "Indus valley civilization is not formed by Hindus but Dravidians who are not the worshipers of any Hindu gods" I know that. I already mentioned it. Why do you act like I didn't? The fact is, you say 'All development results from Christians'. The Indus Valley Civilization was not Christian. The vast majority of civilizations were not Christian. Hindu development in mathematics and sciences is immense. Why do you keep denying it? It's a universally accepted fact, by historians
butterchicken4 1 year ago
@butter dude,you are ignoring real facts.science says Indus civilization was created probably 6500 BCE and destroyed near of 2200 BCE.It means harappan n mahenjodaro civilization were created 8150 years ago.But according to now some French scientists Indus civilization destroyed cus of drought not for foreign attack.It also suggests that vedic civilization existed before of Indus civilization because rig veda contains astrological pre-dates from the indus.so,Hinduism exists before of the indus.
TheShuryansh 1 year ago
@TheShuryansh "Indus civilization destroyed cus of drought not for foreign attack" I'm well aware of this. The Indus Valley Civilization was already WEAKENED when the Aryans arrived. Why else are there isolated Dravidian peoples in Balochistan? The Indus Valley sites have yeilded murtis of non-Hindu gods. The Vedas were written around 2000BCE-1700BCE and caste distinction was visible by 1300BCE. Hinduism did not exist before the Indus. I can tell you that much, regardless of the invasion
butterchicken4 1 year ago
@butter If there were similarities in certain features of Indian people and people from Central Europe,then automatic inference drawn was that the Aryans coming from Europe invaded India and settled here.No one dared of thinking in any other way.There is need to gather,dig out,search,unearth and analyze all the evidences,which would throw more light on ancient Indian civilization and culture.
TheShuryansh 1 year ago
@TheShuryansh "Central Europe" OH! Now I see why you're confused. The theory does NOT suggest that Indo-Europeans migrated from Central Europe. They migrated from the CAUCASUS and West Kazakhstan
butterchicken4 1 year ago
@butterchicken4 oh,sorry.It is northern Europe.
TheShuryansh 1 year ago
@TheShuryansh What is 'northern Europe'? What are you refering to?
butterchicken4 1 year ago
@martyr732 " Catholic with Georgian style of worshipp is Georgian Orthodox Church" Not at all. Where did you get this assertion? The Georgian Orthodox Church, first of all, has no connection to the pope, which is, by far, the biggest clue that it is NOT Catholic. In reality, they are headed by Catholicos, like all other Eastern Orthodox Churches. Don't be confused by the name. They are in no way connected to Catholocism. Besides, Georgia also has a CATHOLIC church. Stalin wasn't part of it
butterchicken4 1 year ago
@martyr732 Besides, the Georgian Orthodox Church uses Icons, allows priests to marry, etc., etc., things that the Roman Catholic Church does not allow. Joseph Stalin was never a priest. Although, as I said, he was given an education at a seminary, he abandoned it after the seminary raised their admission fee, which he could no longer pay. He never took the exam, and he ended up as a clerk. But of course, he rose to power, after Lenin's death [through some cheating] and he abandoned religion.
butterchicken4 1 year ago
@butterchicken4 dude,you need to know more about Hinduism.Aryan invention theory is totally myth.It is the Invasion that never happened.the Aryan invasion theory of India is a myth that owes more to European politics than anything in Indian records or archaeology.Vedic civilization exists before of the evolution of Harappan civilization.you can say Harappan was a part of vedic civilization.Veda civilization started 7000 BCE ago means probably 10000 years ago.
TheShuryansh 1 year ago
@TheShuryansh No man, it's not a myth. I've heard this rumor before
butterchicken4 1 year ago
@butterchicken4 An Arya is one who hails from a noble family, of gentle behavior and demeanor, good-natured and of righteous conduct.Aryan Invasion theory has no support whatsoever from Indian records - literary or archaeological.In this Imperial history,India is portrayed as the land “conquered” first by the ‘Dravidians’, then by the ‘Aryans’, later by Muslims, and finally by the British. Otherwise, everything else is mythical. Our history books today exhibit this obsession with foreign rule.
TheShuryansh 1 year ago
@TheShuryansh The reason there is no 'support in text' is because the Indus Valley Text is yet to be decoded. The genetic similarities, along with lingual, religious, and technological similarities between the peoples of Europe and South Asia really point to the invasion. It makes more sense than proposed theories of articles saying other
butterchicken4 1 year ago
@butterchicken4 Genetic similarities!?there is no study says such similarities.Lingual?!do you know that Sanskrit is considered as oldest language and also mother of many western n eastern languages.Religious?!YOU should know that Hinduism is oldest religion on the world.Buddhism,Jainism,Sikhism are off shoot of it.Even jesus went to India to gain knowledge abt Hinduism and his lost years says all.BTW can u say more abt technological similarity?!
TheShuryansh 1 year ago
@TheShuryansh You're clearly not well informed. There are many studies showing genetic similarities between Indians and Europeans. "do you know that Sanskrit is considered as oldest language and also mother of many western n eastern languages" This is a rumor that is quite rampant in India. In reality, Latin and Sanskrit share many similarities in grammatic structure, word similarities, etc. I'm not talking about Christianity. I'm talking about Greco-Roman, Germanic, Nordic, and Slav Pagananism
butterchicken4 1 year ago
@butterchicken4 yes,i know Latin and some of European languages has similarities with Sanskrit.but that does not mean Sanskrit is derived from Latin.why it cant be in reverse way?!you should first remember that Indian civilization is oldest in the planet.then Greece,roman n other civilizations came to exist.Aryan invention is not widely accepted it is widely controversial though out the world.and i'm not a brahmin,me a so called dalit here.
TheShuryansh 1 year ago
@TheShuryansh It does not mean that Sanskrit 'derived' from Latin. It suggests that BOTH languages evolved from a SINGLE language. The Indo-European Language family is HUGE. Sanskrit and Latin are some of the most significant that resulted in the development of many modern languages like [Sanskrit] Hindi, Bengali, Gujarati, Sindhi, etc and [Latin] Spanish, Italian, etc. With many other members, like German, English, French, Balochi etc.
butterchicken4 1 year ago
@TheShuryansh Believe me, the theory is only 'controversial' among some Indians. Westerners accept the theory. So do I. It makes sense. The grammatical similarities point to a common ancestrial language between Latin and Sanskrit. Both are Indo-European. That's why they have so many similarities. Mathematical formulas are written by the Hindu [arabic] numberal system. That's Indian. The Roman Numerals are different. The NUMERAL system, along with text, developed independently of each other
butterchicken4 1 year ago
@butterchicken4 i think you should read another book called "The Aryan Invasion: theories, counter-theories and historical significance" - By David Grey. he is a westerner and he also denies the possibilities of any invention to india.
TheShuryansh 1 year ago
@TheShuryansh Okay, I'll try to find this book at the local Barnes & Nobles. I know about the whole "British made it to control" idea, but I disagree. I think it was simply a discovery. Anglo-Saxons were, indeed Indo-Europeans. But most westerners today will agree that the Indus Valley Civilization was Dravidian. Also, China is a very important civilization that is non-while. Grey's case is fraudalent.
butterchicken4 1 year ago
@butterchicken4 The theory that the original Aryans were northern Europeans who had migrated into India was used by some British imperialists as an ideological justification for British control of India, on the grounds that the founders of Indian culture were of the same race as the Anglo-Saxon invaders who established the British Raj.just to show that "there never was a civilized nation of any other complexion than white"-The British philosopher David Hume.
TheShuryansh 1 year ago
@butterchicken4 what do you mean by hindu(arabic) numerical system?!
TheShuryansh 1 year ago
@TheShuryansh I'm talking about the Numeral system that was developed by Hindus, and then brought to Baghdad during the Abbasid, where the Europeans got it. What else? Don't you know what Arabic numerals are?
butterchicken4 1 year ago
@butterchicken4 yeah i know about all numerical systems but wanted to hear from you.LoL
TheShuryansh 1 year ago
@TheShuryansh 'wanted to hear from you" Do you think I'm poorly informed, or something?
butterchicken4 1 year ago
@butterchicken4 ....of these Indian things in ancient European literature except only chariot.but that does not prove any invasion.no need to say that Indian style chariots were much more different in shape and size from European came before of the European civilization.“The West tried its best to persuade India that its philosophy is absurd, its art puerile, its poetry uninspired, its religion grotesque and its ethics barbarous” - Sir (Dr) Sarvepalli Radhakrishnan.
TheShuryansh 1 year ago
@TheShuryansh The fact that both civilizations used chariots AT ALL largely points to a connection. But more than chariots, the METAL WORK of the peoples point to a common peoples. Few civilizations at the time could use iron and none to the ability of Indo-Europeans. The styles of construction and work are eerily similar. Lingual, genetic, religious, and technological similarities don't simply point to an 'Aryan Invasion' but an Aryan ASSIMILATION into India. Europe too, was 'invaded'
butterchicken4 1 year ago
@TheShuryansh I'll get back to you later
butterchicken4 1 year ago
@butterchicken4 There is no mention of any location outside the mainland of India in any of the Vedic texts! If Aryans came from Europe , then why haven't the so called Aryans mentioned any of the European locations in any of the Vedic or related texts? The farthest location away from India towards the west mentioned in the Vedas is Kadhahar of present day Afghanistan , which was called Gandhar in the Vedic texts and was said to be the kingdom of Shakuni .......
TheShuryansh 1 year ago
@TheShuryansh It's simple. They could have FORGOTTEN European places. Think about it, Indo-Europeans were pastoral peoples, who migrated with their cows from Central Asia. It would have taken generations. Anyways, Indo-European peoples never built cities or landmarks in there homeland. They moved around. Anyways, Indo-Aryans wrote the Vedas some 200 years after they arrived to India. They had ASSIMILATED
butterchicken4 1 year ago
@butterchicken4 no way.while "Sanskrit" was passed to one generation to other generation by only SRUTI and SMRUTI FOR 2000 years,then it's really hard to believe that they had forgotten their mainland!!!Even "they have forgotten" is only guess not logical.that's why i said It was the invasion which was never happened.
TheShuryansh 1 year ago
@TheShuryansh "The aboriginals would be a good target group for conversion to Christianity. They have yet to start on the path of progress. It remains for us to decide whether the path is to lead them to Hinduism, or the purer faith and civilization which we represent."
(source: The Invasion That Never Was - By Michel Danino)
TheShuryansh 1 year ago
@TheShuryansh "They have forgotten" is a guess that goes along perfectly with all the other lingual, technological, and genetic evidence. Sanskrit did not exist until the Aryans arrived to India. Why do you think there are differences between Latin and Sanskrit? Man, you make such rudimentary assumptions. lol, rivers are important from ancient civilizations. Correct. But the Indo-Europeans were not a 'civilization'. They were nomadic peoples who roamed with their cattle. Don't you know this?
butterchicken4 1 year ago
@butterchicken4 Sheldon Pollock Professor of Sanskrit and Indian Studies at Columbia University has said,
"Colonialism nearly killed India's capacity to know its past; globalization threatens to destroy its will".
i think that is now happening with you.
TheShuryansh 1 year ago
@TheShuryansh ROLF. Sorry, there is an abundance of proof suggesting the Aryan Migration theory. Anyways, it's not globalization, with me. It's EDUCATION. I'm not the one who dies to wear 'American Eagle' and 'Puma' and am obsessed with Hindi 'rap'. Despite living in USA, I maintain my Indian heritage. By presenting quotes, btw, you're presenting an OPINION. Not a fact. Quotations don't prove anything. Anyways, you can fool yourself into not believing a well-substaniated theory, if u want
butterchicken4 1 year ago
@butterchicken4 yeah,you are now making your own previous comment false.just like you said "they have forgotten",which is only miraculously proving Aryan invasion right while the first point to note is that the idea of the Aryans as foreigners who invaded India and destroyed the existing Harappan Civilization is a modern European invention; it receives no support whatsoever from Indian records - literary or archaeological.
TheShuryansh 1 year ago
@TheShuryansh "you are now making your own previous comment false.just like you said" How so? I said they wouldn't have remembered specific parts of their homeland because they were pastoralists who never lived in specific places. They DID NOT 'destroy' Harappa. It had already fallen apart. It doesn't recieve support because they Harappan text is yet to be decoded, and Sanskrit didn't form at the time. "Truth is what it is not what you want it to be" I think you should take your own advice
butterchicken4 1 year ago
@butterchicken4 1-why you giving your comments regarding The Western European area as a fixed pole.
2-Aryan invasion theory clearly says that a race called Aryan migrated to India and destroyed existed civilization because Aryan were great than the local tribe.
3-why it cant be the reverse?!like,Indian civilization spread to Afghanistan and Persia and further west from India!It is also a appropriate answer to all the question.
TheShuryansh 1 year ago