@flowergirl503 lol yeaa i be qettinq fukin sleepyy so i just fall asleep nd my teacher be trippin..nd i qoo to high point central high school which is in north carolinaa lmao onee of the worst school ever lol fights every day nd cops surround the whole school so we dont skip no moree which i still do hahah ...what bout yhuu? what school do yhu qo to
This movie is awesome!! I never expect Telemachus to do that, I was like what-The-FUCK that was the best kill I have ever seen in a movie I WANT TO SEE MORE MOVIES LIKE THIS!! NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 2010!!!! not all the stupid movies now a days with the same stupid actors!!! over and OVER AND OVER AND OVER
@TheAStenson Wow... that's awesome. I'm kind of curious though, how well did you get along with the suitors in real life? Because after watching this, it's almost impossible to picture you like, not despising them. Lol.
@Miley71520 This scene was actually really good fun to do as Eric Roberts and Vincenzo were both having a laugh with me and joking around! I was most concerned about not cutting the guy whose face I slash with the sword... where the blood flies! Was great... AL
@TheAStenson Ah... that would've been just a tad bit painful. Lol. I seriously just can't imagine "happiness" going on between you guys... I've been trying to picture a "behind the scenes" thing for the longest time, but it's well, uh, hard. xD That was some quality acting there. ;D
this orlando girl 213 have no ide a of mythology... she doestn read the history of her country to see how many reaql murders happened,, when your history is nothing but rubbish you cnat see the world but as it is in mountain men europe
hey..''orlandogirl213' he was so right to kill these men cause all they wanted is his kingdom and money,,,they werent true men,,,they just wanted to be kings they didnt care about his wife his son his world just like he said he made with his hands...that woman he killed at the end he did very well cause she betrayed her queen she told them her secret about the woven.she wasnt trustworthy...im from Greece and i know these stories very well,,,,well done Odysseus,,you were a true king and warrior.
@ntorateo Odysseus was no true king either. Look at what he did to the Trojans. He threw Trojan babies from the walls just because he was too much of a coward and feared they would grow up and kick his butt. And he thought he was the greatest after he slaughtered innocent Trojans that never harmed him or Greece. Let's not forget that he pissed off a lot of people and slept around. He was no better than the men he killed. Penelope and Telemachus deserved better.
@orlandogirl213 kings are not chosen for their kindness or goodness, they aren't even a choice, kings are picked by birth so technically he a true king.
@orlandogirl213 greece called him to give a helping hand as they called Achilleas too...Trojans wanted that war,,,,if they had give Helen back nothing of all these wouldnt be happened...and all was Paris fault.
@ntorateo nah, he had to choose one goddess. If he choose any of the other two, Greece would be in ruins. Hera:Domain over Greece and Asia. Athena:Wisdom and the destruction of Greece. So if Paris choose any of the other, war would have happened, but with Troy killing Greece. Also war really started w/Eris Goddess of Discord who put the Golden Apple in the wedding cause she wasn't invinted.
@ntorateo Actually he orders the slaying of all the suitors mistress, after they carry off their bodies and clean their blood, their death Odysseus sees it as an act of mercy
Ooh heated arguments haha if u want to truly understand Greek mythology u gotta let go of the ideas of Christianity of forgiveness justice and etc Greeks came before Jesus keep that in mind when analyzing greek, norse, chinese, indian, native americans etc type mythology, anything that came before Jesus
To orlandogirl213. What did your man do to make you so bitter? Why do you care where Odysseus stuck his prick? It's just historical fiction. Relax and take your meds. If you chill out you will probably find a new man someday.
hey, since there are so many people that disagree with Odysseus, who doesn't agree with what he does in this clip? Does he have the right to kill all these guys, i mean, because of all of the crimes he committed. Shouldn't he be the one getting killed?
All of you stupid son of bitches that are saying that Odysseus is stupid wil be raped until they can crap out pringles cans with ease. Odysseus was the best thinker of the Trojan War, not to mention he survived it. None of you critics could last a second in the war because you think that you could kill someone when in reality, you would be killed instantly, you faggot come guzzling ape shits
flamblaz, I can tell you I wouldn't go killing any1 when I returned home. That shows me Odysseus lusts for blood. His men didn't hurt any1. They weren't the best sort, but they didn't slaughter an entire nation. If I were him, I'd tell them to get lost. Odysseus is blind if he can only think with his bow and sword.
If he was as smart as legend says, he wouldn't have done that. Common sense. All those men did was take over his home, but they thought he was dead, so it wasn't their fault. If he'd spend less time pissing people off and sleeping around, things would've been different. If he were a wise man, he would've at least banished them from his court, not kill them. That just shows he thought with his sword, not his brain.
The suitors had broken the ancient Greek rules of hospitality, a pretty grave crime in those days. You didn't give your host a hard time or you paid for it. You need to understand this historically or, like you say, Odysseus looks like a pretty bad guy.
He already is a bad guy. He committed genocide for no reason at Troy. He raped women, threw babies from city walls, killed men, enslaved, etc. Then he kills men who only thought he was dead. He's disgustingly evil.
One of the interesting parts of Iliad and Odyssey is that--intentionally or not--Homer actually has the Trojans come out as more admirable than the Greeks--on this scene, how one old man with one bow can can 10+ men in a small room--this is Quentin Tarantino math.
No... I wouldn't say that's the reason he joined in Troy. He had Agammemnon knocking at his doorstep, and Agammemnon, in the Illiad was supposedly a powerful king, with armies compiled from other conquests added to his own. If Odysseus were to not engage in the war, it would cause big problems for ithica, and I don't ever remember Odysseus being known for raping women, atleast.
He created the Horse. That plan killed every Trojan in sight. Who says Odysseus didn't rape women? He sleeps around with goddesses, why not? He's a despicable man
Killing the Trojans was not necessary. The stupid Horse was not necessary. Basically, Odysseus the Odious was committing genocide. He had no reason to harm the citizens of Troy. They didn't hurt him, so why should he hurt them? It's one thing to kill soldiers, another to kill civilians. He said in the movie Troy that the Trojans insulted Greece and he showed little remorse for what he did.
orlandogirl213 and all the rest here... it is very sad to make conclusions for such a great story out of a TV series or a hollywood movie... please read the genuine script.. and you will find out why Homer's work is so great... All of your questions will be aswered if you read it... and you will understand...
I've read the Odyssey. All I see from Odysseus the Odious is how much of a rotten man he was. He slaughtered the Trojans for what? And while his poor wife was fending off potential suitors, he was shagging Circe and later, Calypso. Yes, she held him captive, but when she released him, he willingly slept with her. Sounds like a jerk to me. He didn't deserve his own story.
dear orlandogirl213...i'm very sorry but i don't believe you've read it...and you, in my opinion, you confuse the real world with literature... remember this is a work of art..not a little adventure of the guy next door..the "shagging" as you call it...has another deeper meaning and tropology...you deliberate debase an action in the standars of todays world...In the poem Circe represents the temptation which Odysseus confront and wins..Don't confuse Odysseus with a drunken Marlboro man..please..
Circe is temptation and Odysseus couldn't resist sleeping with her. Neither could he resist sleeping with Calypso. I'm sorry if there is no other way 2 convince you but I read the Odyssey in my freshman year and I'll never read it again. I don't care if it's in todays world or not, you don't sleep around with some1 when you're married. Odysseus is a cowardly, disgusting, despicable wretch
and if 3:47 is anything to go by, those men were not innocent as you call them, that they were willing to commit treason on their king, rather than step down and let him take his rightful place as king when they see he has returned
Look what he did at 4:43. He just killed an innocent woman! He had no right to kill these men. They all thought he was dead. What crime is there in that? They were good men and they just wanted a new King. Odysseus just loves to kill. That's his way of solving things. He kills innocent Trojans, he kills men that wanted to be King of Ithaca.
two things wrong with what you just said: firstly, he didnt mean to kill that woman he shot his arrow at the final suitor and just as she opened the door it pierced them both, unintentionally, plus she was trying to help him to escape so i hardly think that classes her as innocent. Secondly, he killed those men because "they tried to steal his world", sure they may have treated his wife ok etc but they tried to take his throne
He didn't care that he killed her, unintentional or not. Those men only tried to "steal" his throne because they thought he was dead. He didn't return for 20 years, how should they know? They were only taking the law in Ithaca that there must be a King.
Good men? They were sitting there for years, eating and drinking Odysseus wine, raping women, ploting to kill Odysseus son and marry Odysseus wife against her will... while he was so far from home for 20 years - fighting for Greece and trying to find the way back home...
They all thought Odysseus was dead and they knew Ithaca needed a king. Penelope had no choice but to accept if Odysseus was dead. They didn't harm any1 and they didn't deserve death. It's not like they knew Odysseus the Odious lived. Odysseus shouldn't have left to slaughter innocent Trojans. That's why he's a moron.
@oOoLucciolaoOo Odysseus was no better than they were. Look at what he did. He murdered innocent Trojans-not only soldiers, but women and children. Troy never hurt him or Greece, but he felt it was right to hurt them because he was commanded to. You can't do something wrong because you are commanded to. Odysseus pillaged, murdered, raped, etc in Troy, so he's no better than the suitors after his crown. Ithaca was better off w/o him.
@orlandogirl213 the stories about odysseus r, by historians, considered as legend so there is a chance none of this happened or it did but on a smaller scale. hence it being called mythology
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"You tried to steal my world!" Oh, boo-hoo! They all thought you were dead, Odysseus, you craven moron! Of course they were going to make a move! Seriously, these guys had no reason to die. They thought Odysseus was dead. Where's the crime in that? Penelope would be kicking herself for not choosing one of them if she knew what little rat Odysseus was doing for all those years. *cough shag goddesses, cough*
I can't believe you people! I love Odysseus, you're speaking blasphemies, haha. Athena tells him that he's the first man to ever use his brain. He is opposed by Poseidon, a god, and somehow in spite of that he manages to make it back home, using his wile. His mind is always teeming. He's an inspiration.
Remember that the suitors tried to kill Telemachus, eat him out of house and home, defile the maids of his palace, and steal away Penelope(quite against her will). They only wish to rule Ithaca.
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I think Athena had the wrong guy. Odysseus doesn't have a brain. If he did, there'd be no stupid horse. Besides, you call that horse clever? Pretty dumb if you ask me, considering it took him ten years to come up with the idea. He's nothing more than a monster and adulterer. It's really not hard to see why Poseidon hated his guts. Odysseus just has a black heart and he's a craven fool. He should've died at Troy. Or by his own bow. I read he had a son that killed him(by Circe.) YAY!
Seriously, all of those men were much better men than Odysseus. If only Penelope knew what he was doing while he was "trying" to go home. If only she knew how he pissed off Poseidon and slept with Circe and Calypso, she'd think twice before accepting him. I think those men deserved to live. It's not like they knew Odysseus was alive. They just wanted to be Penelope's wife. If Penelope knew what "faith" her husband had, one of those men would've been her new husband.
Odysseus is a complete villain. Why does he get a happy ending after what he did to the people of Troy? He drenched his hands in blood. He didn't defeat Troy, he annhiliated it. He killed too many families so he has no right to his own. He should've died in Troy. He thinks he's a hero because he kills innocents. And I know he cares nothing for his family he pissed off Poseidon, god of the sea and slept with Circe and Calypso. Sounds like he really wanted to go home. He's Odysseus the Odious.
In the movie I can't help it only because Sean Bean plays him. But other than that, I loathe Odysseus the Odious. A guy who slaughters people and thinks himself a hero is not the most admirable. Neither is a man who is unfaithful to his wife after being away from her for more than 10 years. I don't see why anyone can love this guy. I feel sorry for poor Penelope because she married a player! I wish Odysseus died. He didn't deserve happiness. I wish Poseidon had drowned him.
this is my favorite scene of the movie(because finally he becomes king and proves to people of who he is),it is a wonderful movie that gives much wisdom to man
Odysseus: Your crime is that you tried to steal my world. The world I built with my hands, and my sweat and my blood. The world that I shared with a woman who bore me my son, and no one will ever take that from me. Now you will die to a man in a river of blood.
hey, it's eric roberts! :)
zendojo3 4 months ago
I don't know how Odysseus was portrayed but I like this one
boredstudent 6 months ago
"Do you know me now?" Makes one shudder. This dude is a serious alpha male. These losers didn't stand a chance.
DandAinTac 7 months ago
Who are you old man?
Well he's either Odysseus or Gandalf the grey
solesurvivor5 7 months ago 5
@solesurvivor5 lol
MrSmokeythedragon 6 months ago
the pinnacle of Greek heroes
TalonMercenary 8 months ago
love this guy
NeonnxRainbow 10 months ago
DAMN!!!! that was like the best movie crime ive ever seen that wass super cool
flowergirl503 1 year ago
im a freshman nd im watchinq thiz moviee in english 1 class..but sometimezz i juzt fall asleep lol :)
flybabyqurl95 1 year ago
@flybabyqurl95 wow!! we hav soo much in common!! lol i always fall asleep too wen i watch dat movie wat school do u go to?
flowergirl503 1 year ago
@flowergirl503 lol yeaa i be qettinq fukin sleepyy so i just fall asleep nd my teacher be trippin..nd i qoo to high point central high school which is in north carolinaa lmao onee of the worst school ever lol fights every day nd cops surround the whole school so we dont skip no moree which i still do hahah ...what bout yhuu? what school do yhu qo to
flybabyqurl95 1 year ago
Damn that was pretty fuckin cool.
Nicodemo17 1 year ago
Odysseus- "Telemachus...now you can release your anger" (or whatever he says)
Telemachus- "AHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" (Stabs guy up againt wall)
LOL PWNAGE
jnvbeach11 1 year ago
@miley71520 haha what state cuz we already watched this a couple days ago and I'm a freshman
HawkIx14 1 year ago
@HawkIx14 Arizona. I'm a Junior, so it was a while ago. But it's still amusing to watch from time to time. ;D
Miley71520 1 year ago
Ah... this brings back memories from Freshman year. Lol, back then I felt like the only one who was seriously getting into this movie. xD
I always liked 2:23.
Miley71520 1 year ago
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This was my fav. scene other then the cyclops scene lol
Etthomas13sexhexy13 1 year ago
This was my fav. scene other then the cyclopse scene lol
Etthomas13sexhexy13 1 year ago
Why is his son a Klingon?
TheHeklor 1 year ago
so did he kill his wife? or did he just scare her?
Trakheed 1 year ago
This movie is awesome!! I never expect Telemachus to do that, I was like what-The-FUCK that was the best kill I have ever seen in a movie I WANT TO SEE MORE MOVIES LIKE THIS!! NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 2010!!!! not all the stupid movies now a days with the same stupid actors!!! over and OVER AND OVER AND OVER
reyshakquit 1 year ago 3
@reyshakquit Glad you liked it... was a real laugh doing it.
TheAStenson 1 year ago
@TheAStenson what do you mean, were you in the movie?!?!?ZOMG!
reyshakquit 1 year ago
@reyshakquit yeah... I played Telemachus. Was a long time ago now!
TheAStenson 1 year ago
@TheAStenson unbelievable!
reyshakquit 1 year ago
@reyshakquit you can tweet on@AlanStenson
TheAStenson 1 year ago
@TheAStenson OMG!! Im so going to tell my literature teacher about this, she is freak ooooooout!!!!!!!!!!
reyshakquit 1 year ago
@reyshakquit hahhaaa... hope the studying goes well... cheers.
TheAStenson 1 year ago
@TheAStenson Wow... that's awesome. I'm kind of curious though, how well did you get along with the suitors in real life? Because after watching this, it's almost impossible to picture you like, not despising them. Lol.
Miley71520 1 year ago
@Miley71520 This scene was actually really good fun to do as Eric Roberts and Vincenzo were both having a laugh with me and joking around! I was most concerned about not cutting the guy whose face I slash with the sword... where the blood flies! Was great... AL
TheAStenson 1 year ago
@TheAStenson Ah... that would've been just a tad bit painful. Lol. I seriously just can't imagine "happiness" going on between you guys... I've been trying to picture a "behind the scenes" thing for the longest time, but it's well, uh, hard. xD That was some quality acting there. ;D
Miley71520 1 year ago
@TheAStenson: Holy shit, you're the guy who played Telemachus?
akosigundam 10 months ago 3
@akosigundam yeah... that was me.
TheAStenson 10 months ago
xXTelemachus120xX assasinated Amphin0mus320 *xbox live reference*
reyshakquit 1 year ago
@reyshakquit wow ur cool *cough*
hammerman2006 1 year ago
at the end double kill! FTW!
Ash6555555 1 year ago
The sound quality of this vid is athena-damned bad. A pity. But not even that can take away to power from this scene!
NemesisNejRocks 1 year ago
I love this actor in this role !
xaralamb1 1 year ago
whaqt about scottish genocide from british in their own territory thsi is not a myth!!!
JIMY45GR 1 year ago
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his story is spread through the centuries the centuries and tacht in schools ignorants,, ask your teachers in elementary school
JIMY45GR 1 year ago
thsi story is spread through the centuries the centuries and tacht in schools ignorants,, ask your teachers in elementary school
JIMY45GR 1 year ago
when peasants in britain lived in caves eating each other . some people in mediterannea were spreading filosofy medicine astronomy...
JIMY45GR 1 year ago
@JIMY45GR u shud look at china at this time, they have invented flamethrower, bombs, whiskey and much much more.
KongMatthew119 1 year ago
this orlando girl 213 have no ide a of mythology... she doestn read the history of her country to see how many reaql murders happened,, when your history is nothing but rubbish you cnat see the world but as it is in mountain men europe
JIMY45GR 1 year ago
OMG HIGH SOUND VOLOME
SSwipperSS 1 year ago
man..they should have just zerg rushed him straight away!
FreneticBoofs 1 year ago
Honestly, this movie is crap. In the poem, his reasons for killing them made much more sense.
HugoLuman 1 year ago
i love this movie o3o
XxAtreyuxXAngelxX 1 year ago
2:20! LOVE THAT!
SpartanMan80 1 year ago
Those suitors are kind of dumb.
"He just killed that guy! Oh well, I'm sure he won't do it to me-GLUUURK!"
"Oh my gods! He killed him too! I bet if I stand still he won't-GARGGH!"
variag62 1 year ago
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ntorateo 1 year ago
hey..''orlandogirl213' he was so right to kill these men cause all they wanted is his kingdom and money,,,they werent true men,,,they just wanted to be kings they didnt care about his wife his son his world just like he said he made with his hands...that woman he killed at the end he did very well cause she betrayed her queen she told them her secret about the woven.she wasnt trustworthy...im from Greece and i know these stories very well,,,,well done Odysseus,,you were a true king and warrior.
ntorateo 1 year ago 13
@ntorateo Odysseus was no true king either. Look at what he did to the Trojans. He threw Trojan babies from the walls just because he was too much of a coward and feared they would grow up and kick his butt. And he thought he was the greatest after he slaughtered innocent Trojans that never harmed him or Greece. Let's not forget that he pissed off a lot of people and slept around. He was no better than the men he killed. Penelope and Telemachus deserved better.
orlandogirl213 1 year ago
@orlandogirl213 kings are not chosen for their kindness or goodness, they aren't even a choice, kings are picked by birth so technically he a true king.
KongMatthew119 1 year ago
@orlandogirl213 greece called him to give a helping hand as they called Achilleas too...Trojans wanted that war,,,,if they had give Helen back nothing of all these wouldnt be happened...and all was Paris fault.
ntorateo 1 year ago
@ntorateo nah, he had to choose one goddess. If he choose any of the other two, Greece would be in ruins. Hera:Domain over Greece and Asia. Athena:Wisdom and the destruction of Greece. So if Paris choose any of the other, war would have happened, but with Troy killing Greece. Also war really started w/Eris Goddess of Discord who put the Golden Apple in the wedding cause she wasn't invinted.
muyangdong 1 year ago
@ntorateo Actually he orders the slaying of all the suitors mistress, after they carry off their bodies and clean their blood, their death Odysseus sees it as an act of mercy
solesurvivor5 7 months ago
Ooh heated arguments haha if u want to truly understand Greek mythology u gotta let go of the ideas of Christianity of forgiveness justice and etc Greeks came before Jesus keep that in mind when analyzing greek, norse, chinese, indian, native americans etc type mythology, anything that came before Jesus
shinigamiv 1 year ago
The suitors were swine. In Homer's "Odyssey", Telemachus tells Pallas Athena's sparkling eyes they consume
someone else's property and pay nothing in return.
The suitors' crime is stealing.
Phineas1996 1 year ago
Odysseus, the greatest party crasher in Western Civilization.
TangomanX2008 1 year ago 55
Eurymachus is hot!
dudewheresmydignity 1 year ago
i saw this movie in english class it was cool
SeksYxBoI 2 years ago
To orlandogirl213. What did your man do to make you so bitter? Why do you care where Odysseus stuck his prick? It's just historical fiction. Relax and take your meds. If you chill out you will probably find a new man someday.
rarebreedinNC 2 years ago
hey, since there are so many people that disagree with Odysseus, who doesn't agree with what he does in this clip? Does he have the right to kill all these guys, i mean, because of all of the crimes he committed. Shouldn't he be the one getting killed?
sonoranguitarlois 2 years ago
does anyone know what kind of bow he would be using
sk8hmd1121 2 years ago
I think a bow with that kind of curve is called a composite bow
Mytholgylove 2 years ago
oddysseus Pwned them..! i'm So pround being from Ithaca..!
panostzimas 2 years ago
@panostzimas Leukada !!!
zigsauer 1 year ago
when he asked "who are you old man?" He should have said nobody
juicedup14 2 years ago
1:51, epic moment. They are like nuh uh it cant be.
neoxigbar 2 years ago 3
Pwnt.
neoxigbar 2 years ago 21
Werd
nomooon 2 years ago
Look at them bitches surprized !
Its time for the Steel supper mathafakkaz !
zigsauer 2 years ago 3
All of you stupid son of bitches that are saying that Odysseus is stupid wil be raped until they can crap out pringles cans with ease. Odysseus was the best thinker of the Trojan War, not to mention he survived it. None of you critics could last a second in the war because you think that you could kill someone when in reality, you would be killed instantly, you faggot come guzzling ape shits
Achilles940 2 years ago
i think we all know that if we were in the war we would be killed
nimalakers24 2 years ago
wowa.. a lot of people don't understand the Odyssey! not just on this post...
Fallen0paper 2 years ago 2
was odysseus killed in the true story or died by old age?
priest1090kukulcan 2 years ago 2
Not very true to the original, but still entertaining anyway. The maid didn't die that way for starters.
Cathain78 2 years ago
what do you think would have heppenen,if odysseus coulndt come back. can you meet your dead mum and forget how painfull its not to see her anymore,
cladower 2 years ago
orlandogirl213 u must be such a wit to say such about him wat would u do if u were in such a position
flamzblaz121 2 years ago
flamblaz, I can tell you I wouldn't go killing any1 when I returned home. That shows me Odysseus lusts for blood. His men didn't hurt any1. They weren't the best sort, but they didn't slaughter an entire nation. If I were him, I'd tell them to get lost. Odysseus is blind if he can only think with his bow and sword.
orlandogirl213 2 years ago
it was a different time. Morales were different. In his time, Odyssyus is doing what most others would do.
a1z58o 2 years ago
If he was as smart as legend says, he wouldn't have done that. Common sense. All those men did was take over his home, but they thought he was dead, so it wasn't their fault. If he'd spend less time pissing people off and sleeping around, things would've been different. If he were a wise man, he would've at least banished them from his court, not kill them. That just shows he thought with his sword, not his brain.
orlandogirl213 2 years ago
The suitors had broken the ancient Greek rules of hospitality, a pretty grave crime in those days. You didn't give your host a hard time or you paid for it. You need to understand this historically or, like you say, Odysseus looks like a pretty bad guy.
fliegeroh 2 years ago
He already is a bad guy. He committed genocide for no reason at Troy. He raped women, threw babies from city walls, killed men, enslaved, etc. Then he kills men who only thought he was dead. He's disgustingly evil.
orlandogirl213 2 years ago
One of the interesting parts of Iliad and Odyssey is that--intentionally or not--Homer actually has the Trojans come out as more admirable than the Greeks--on this scene, how one old man with one bow can can 10+ men in a small room--this is Quentin Tarantino math.
RPenta 2 years ago
No... I wouldn't say that's the reason he joined in Troy. He had Agammemnon knocking at his doorstep, and Agammemnon, in the Illiad was supposedly a powerful king, with armies compiled from other conquests added to his own. If Odysseus were to not engage in the war, it would cause big problems for ithica, and I don't ever remember Odysseus being known for raping women, atleast.
Mytholgylove 2 years ago
He created the Horse. That plan killed every Trojan in sight. Who says Odysseus didn't rape women? He sleeps around with goddesses, why not? He's a despicable man
orlandogirl213 2 years ago
Who says he, HIMSELF, planned to kill every trojan he saw, although he knew his men would, he saved only the brutality that was necessary.
Mytholgylove 2 years ago
Killing the Trojans was not necessary. The stupid Horse was not necessary. Basically, Odysseus the Odious was committing genocide. He had no reason to harm the citizens of Troy. They didn't hurt him, so why should he hurt them? It's one thing to kill soldiers, another to kill civilians. He said in the movie Troy that the Trojans insulted Greece and he showed little remorse for what he did.
orlandogirl213 2 years ago
orlandogirl213 and all the rest here... it is very sad to make conclusions for such a great story out of a TV series or a hollywood movie... please read the genuine script.. and you will find out why Homer's work is so great... All of your questions will be aswered if you read it... and you will understand...
blestra 2 years ago
I've read the Odyssey. All I see from Odysseus the Odious is how much of a rotten man he was. He slaughtered the Trojans for what? And while his poor wife was fending off potential suitors, he was shagging Circe and later, Calypso. Yes, she held him captive, but when she released him, he willingly slept with her. Sounds like a jerk to me. He didn't deserve his own story.
orlandogirl213 2 years ago
dear orlandogirl213...i'm very sorry but i don't believe you've read it...and you, in my opinion, you confuse the real world with literature... remember this is a work of art..not a little adventure of the guy next door..the "shagging" as you call it...has another deeper meaning and tropology...you deliberate debase an action in the standars of todays world...In the poem Circe represents the temptation which Odysseus confront and wins..Don't confuse Odysseus with a drunken Marlboro man..please..
blestra 2 years ago
Circe is temptation and Odysseus couldn't resist sleeping with her. Neither could he resist sleeping with Calypso. I'm sorry if there is no other way 2 convince you but I read the Odyssey in my freshman year and I'll never read it again. I don't care if it's in todays world or not, you don't sleep around with some1 when you're married. Odysseus is a cowardly, disgusting, despicable wretch
orlandogirl213 2 years ago
such strong words...youth is so straightlaced... i'm sorry i couldn't change your point of view.. but i think, and hope, time will...
But remember.. he was tossed around by the sea for many years just to see her...and the laws of christianity...didn't exist then...
blestra 2 years ago
that may be, but you have to remember this was ancient greece, and their values were way different from ours today
TalonMercenary 2 years ago
So what? I don't care whatever time and place, it doesn't change that Odysseus the Odious is the worst excuse for a creature.
orlandogirl213 2 years ago
and if 3:47 is anything to go by, those men were not innocent as you call them, that they were willing to commit treason on their king, rather than step down and let him take his rightful place as king when they see he has returned
TalonMercenary 2 years ago
Look what he did at 4:43. He just killed an innocent woman! He had no right to kill these men. They all thought he was dead. What crime is there in that? They were good men and they just wanted a new King. Odysseus just loves to kill. That's his way of solving things. He kills innocent Trojans, he kills men that wanted to be King of Ithaca.
orlandogirl213 2 years ago
two things wrong with what you just said: firstly, he didnt mean to kill that woman he shot his arrow at the final suitor and just as she opened the door it pierced them both, unintentionally, plus she was trying to help him to escape so i hardly think that classes her as innocent. Secondly, he killed those men because "they tried to steal his world", sure they may have treated his wife ok etc but they tried to take his throne
TalonMercenary 2 years ago
He didn't care that he killed her, unintentional or not. Those men only tried to "steal" his throne because they thought he was dead. He didn't return for 20 years, how should they know? They were only taking the law in Ithaca that there must be a King.
orlandogirl213 2 years ago
10 or so years actually
TalonMercenary 2 years ago
yes but you dont seem to realise that Eurymachus tried to kill Odysseus with the axe even though his rightful ruler had returned
TalonMercenary 2 years ago
Only because brainless Odysseus the Odious started it. He was trying to defend himself. His own King was trying to kill him for no crime
orlandogirl213 2 years ago
2 orlandogirl213
Good men? They were sitting there for years, eating and drinking Odysseus wine, raping women, ploting to kill Odysseus son and marry Odysseus wife against her will... while he was so far from home for 20 years - fighting for Greece and trying to find the way back home...
Gosh, I would do the same.
oOoLucciolaoOo 1 year ago
They all thought Odysseus was dead and they knew Ithaca needed a king. Penelope had no choice but to accept if Odysseus was dead. They didn't harm any1 and they didn't deserve death. It's not like they knew Odysseus the Odious lived. Odysseus shouldn't have left to slaughter innocent Trojans. That's why he's a moron.
orlandogirl213 1 year ago
@oOoLucciolaoOo Odysseus was no better than they were. Look at what he did. He murdered innocent Trojans-not only soldiers, but women and children. Troy never hurt him or Greece, but he felt it was right to hurt them because he was commanded to. You can't do something wrong because you are commanded to. Odysseus pillaged, murdered, raped, etc in Troy, so he's no better than the suitors after his crown. Ithaca was better off w/o him.
orlandogirl213 1 year ago
@orlandogirl213 the stories about odysseus r, by historians, considered as legend so there is a chance none of this happened or it did but on a smaller scale. hence it being called mythology
KongMatthew119 1 year ago
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"You tried to steal my world!" Oh, boo-hoo! They all thought you were dead, Odysseus, you craven moron! Of course they were going to make a move! Seriously, these guys had no reason to die. They thought Odysseus was dead. Where's the crime in that? Penelope would be kicking herself for not choosing one of them if she knew what little rat Odysseus was doing for all those years. *cough shag goddesses, cough*
orlandogirl213 2 years ago
this movie sucks at interperating the book
hookem794 2 years ago 3
I can't believe you people! I love Odysseus, you're speaking blasphemies, haha. Athena tells him that he's the first man to ever use his brain. He is opposed by Poseidon, a god, and somehow in spite of that he manages to make it back home, using his wile. His mind is always teeming. He's an inspiration.
Remember that the suitors tried to kill Telemachus, eat him out of house and home, defile the maids of his palace, and steal away Penelope(quite against her will). They only wish to rule Ithaca.
weezberger 2 years ago 2
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I think Athena had the wrong guy. Odysseus doesn't have a brain. If he did, there'd be no stupid horse. Besides, you call that horse clever? Pretty dumb if you ask me, considering it took him ten years to come up with the idea. He's nothing more than a monster and adulterer. It's really not hard to see why Poseidon hated his guts. Odysseus just has a black heart and he's a craven fool. He should've died at Troy. Or by his own bow. I read he had a son that killed him(by Circe.) YAY!
orlandogirl213 2 years ago
Seriously, all of those men were much better men than Odysseus. If only Penelope knew what he was doing while he was "trying" to go home. If only she knew how he pissed off Poseidon and slept with Circe and Calypso, she'd think twice before accepting him. I think those men deserved to live. It's not like they knew Odysseus was alive. They just wanted to be Penelope's wife. If Penelope knew what "faith" her husband had, one of those men would've been her new husband.
orlandogirl213 2 years ago
Odysseus is a complete villain. Why does he get a happy ending after what he did to the people of Troy? He drenched his hands in blood. He didn't defeat Troy, he annhiliated it. He killed too many families so he has no right to his own. He should've died in Troy. He thinks he's a hero because he kills innocents. And I know he cares nothing for his family he pissed off Poseidon, god of the sea and slept with Circe and Calypso. Sounds like he really wanted to go home. He's Odysseus the Odious.
orlandogirl213 2 years ago
You can't help loving him though "I ordered my men to release me using my eyebrows" Legend!
samsoniite 2 years ago
In the movie I can't help it only because Sean Bean plays him. But other than that, I loathe Odysseus the Odious. A guy who slaughters people and thinks himself a hero is not the most admirable. Neither is a man who is unfaithful to his wife after being away from her for more than 10 years. I don't see why anyone can love this guy. I feel sorry for poor Penelope because she married a player! I wish Odysseus died. He didn't deserve happiness. I wish Poseidon had drowned him.
orlandogirl213 2 years ago
this movie is cool
especially this part
i watched it in my english class 2 weeks ago
cheapalien 2 years ago
We just finished this in school 2 days ago. Love itttt! and odysseus!!
blehman12 2 years ago
I have wacht this film about 34 Times
kakaloekia 2 years ago 3
Odysseus Is my hero!.
kakaloekia 2 years ago
what the geef!!!!!!!!!
THExDETROITxLIONS 3 years ago
the son Telamachus (sp?) is so HOTT!! especially when he was trying to kill that man and he had blood and wounds all over. Gosh he's so sexy
DivaAngel7J 3 years ago
you can now release you anger!.....favorite part of the movie
BlahArmy 3 years ago
Telemachus--Alan Stenson- is such a hottie!
PrincessDiariesLive 3 years ago 3
@PrincessDiariesLive You are far too kind...! Thanks...
TheAStenson 1 year ago
telemachus is alan stenson who was the best man at my wedding ! lol
rainTHEORIGINAL 3 years ago 3
had to watch this at school few days ago,pretty good
diamondbik3r 3 years ago
He already was king......
waterbron 3 years ago 2
Oh man, great book, and favorite scene in the movie. :)
Linksmilk 3 years ago
this is my favorite scene of the movie(because finally he becomes king and proves to people of who he is),it is a wonderful movie that gives much wisdom to man
frenchmuslimtruth 3 years ago
That was a great movie. thanks for putting this on here
dinodeuce92 3 years ago 2
Odysseus: Your crime is that you tried to steal my world. The world I built with my hands, and my sweat and my blood. The world that I shared with a woman who bore me my son, and no one will ever take that from me. Now you will die to a man in a river of blood.
guachoko 3 years ago 5