Quakecon 2010 Rage iPhone Demo

[MrSacrafice]

plays perfect on ipod touch 4g 8gb :D

[dkmariolink]

Hope this comes on PS vita with free roam.. A true portable gaming machine

[Vestu]

I'd go as far as to say that this John guy here knows a thing or two about programming an fps-engine.

[buddysmithburg]

sheesh, bethesda needs to step up their fallout games.

[BeyFan97]

Gamer in the crowd: "Hey, that guy looks like the Medic"... *iphone screen explodes and a pigeon comes out*

Carmack: "Archimedes!"

[omghai2u]

fuck that could be on xbox 360 andi wouldnt be able to tell

[ux92]

What I love about id Software is that they make every single game they release available for all kind of platforms, from cellphones to consoles, going from Windows to Linux and Mac. And their engines helped a lot to develop another cool games. Most games owe a lot to id for the Quake engines they're based upon. Carmack, you are the best. id team, you are the best.

[george3dmax]

If most of video games on earth were made by smart programmers like this guy, john carmack, we won't be suffering a period of slow framerates in any way.

[Wolcorn]

Doesn't run on ipod touch 3g 8gb, right? :/

[letters99999]

@Wolcorn Runs on my 2g 8g but the game is terrible you cant move the game moves your character for you.

[pamew]

Seeing how awesome that looked on an iphone kind of makes me pissed at how sub-par the newest wolfenstein's graphics were :\

Seriously John, if you can do THAT with a mobile phone, you have no excuse.

[a55kika18]

LOL @ the way he ignores the characters because of their poor graphics

[Jackalofdeath]

@a55kika18 yup 

[laifalbert]

Pisses me off that a console with a CPU and GPU that's more powerful than an iPhone has so few games that look like this. (Wii)

[MrHairspary]

reminds me a bit of the fallout 3 graphics

[xxashton92xx]

looks amazing

[Clerks0]

It's pretty amazing, how they actually manage to make something look that good on the iPhone

[Isthisthelongestname]

Hate all the geeky (aka virgin for life) clapping - frothing at the mouth and pants me thinks! Its the same with Steve jobs and his hareem of fans haha.

Its awesome I agree but unless your getting paid for it, calm the fck down...

[hexen93]

@Isthisthelongestname

I'm sure you've clapped for something in your life time.

Unless you don't have hands, then I could understand your anger.

[DestinyHeroMovieDude]

Carmack never ceases to amaze.

[Elfenlied89]

Terrible iphone game.

[a121509]

Fucking adverts.

[TheLostYohan]

Iphone looks better than wii haha

[animerocks56]

when is this game coming out for the iphone???

[dano555666]

Also complaining about onrails is stupid. Call of Duty Black Ops is an on rail shooter, and statistically, you bought a copy.

So, fuck off.

[Badlogic2]

@dano555666 If you play the tacked on single player I bet it is one rails, get with the multiplayer.

[dano555666]

Um, why are people saying the shadows aren't rendered real time.

NONE of your consoles games have actual real time lighting. I repeat, not one. Not. One. Some have precomputed dynamic lightmaps, but that's not the same thing.

The only games that do fully, are STALKER and Crysis, both for the PC.

Your complaining about lightmapping on a fucking phone? Jesus h christ you people are retards. Level uv coords having lightmaps baked on them is completely fucking normal.

[D3STRUKT0R99]

@dano555666

Actually I'm fairly certain that FarCry 2 has full dynamic lighting

[Punkyemoking]

is this the same Rage thats on the consoles?

[SniiperAssassin]

what if he unlocked it and it was on pornhub!!!!

[quityojibbajabbaa]

@SniiperAssassin hahah thats what i use mine for 

[madmax2069]

this game is a rail shooter, meaning you do not walk around freely in the rooms. the gfx are not impressive either, the lighting ad shadows are all static images (not being rendered real time) they are apart of the textures that make up the walls and floors.

[thepineapple1]

@madmax2069 I've been saying this from the beginning. Ignorant people still think that this is the best game ever. This crap got nothing on Gameloft games. If you look at Modern Combat 2. The fire/explosions/lighting is all done in real time. Just do a 360 and watch how awesome the gun looks with the sun light hitting it in different ways. But I guess the illusion of graphics is enough for most people. Sad

[flipaovids]

@madmax2069 Well environment shadows might be baked in but character shadows are clearly rendered in real time.

[madmax2069]

@flipaovids the same as with any old FPS such as UT99, half-life.

[Specias]

@fpsisfun. First of all, I do not own a Wii. Secondly, you do realize you are comparing a phone to a phone to console whereas their areas are widely different. The Iphone, although it has alot of games, it is not something for several people as the Wii. What I am trying to say is that comparing the Wii vs Iphone is as stupid as comparing water vs a rose and saying the rose is better than water because it smells nice.

[Konfleik]

@Specias more like who make those comparisons are 360/PS3 fanboys, lol.

[ScrubsEntertainment]

Wow, the guy in the beginning is the perfect example of a Geek.

[xalener]

@ScrubsEntertainment

You mean the guy whose Judo expert and created the foundation of the modern 3d engine?

Diss him all you want, he's done more in a month than most people have done in their lives.

[ScrubsEntertainment]

@xalener

He's still a nerd

[xalener]

@ScrubsEntertainment

The best.

[ScrubsEntertainment]

@xalener

The best nerd?

lmao

[xalener]

@ScrubsEntertainment

Have anything to add to that?

The mother fucker founded a company. What have you done lately?

[lucirz]

the game just came out...it sucks :*...good graphics but that's all....it's a boring ass rail shooter...

[linkdivide]

this game will be available for the iphone 3g or just for the iphone 4 ???????????????

[MrDECLANFTW]

@linkdivide both its out now

[kahuna3901]

when he talks about the idea of being as good as a ps3 or 360, there are a couple really big problems. one is actual storage, this amount of textures at the iphone 4 resoloution will be huge for a whole game let alone for a whole new standard of games on ios. another problem is the actual raw gpu and cpu power, the ps3 has 1ppe and 7spe's running at 3.2ghz. the iphone has a 1ghz ppe. the other huge problem is battery. the ps3 uses something like 220v, i doubt the iphone will last like that

[sajti111]

Rage will be coming to iPhone/Touch/iPad in the next 24hrs

[Skateir]

I love my iphone 4, but this game... it'll be a battery killer lol.

[mindf1ow]

MAN!!!! Carmack is one bad dude.

[fenixwylde]

Commercial SUX!

[biplav32]

Jesus, he made a game that good looking in a month

[Aphradonis]

@IntelgratedShiznit I agree, though that's not saying much.

[boomerxxx]

Lol, that's John Carmack? Not what I expected. He's so ... geeky. Awesome.

[JustinAilyn]

Wow, he made it run on an iPhone 2nd gen with those graphics. D:

[Prometheus722]

How can there be realtime radiosity on the iphone when it has only recently been figured out for the consoles (cryengine 3 tech demo is the first i've ever seen). A lot of that had to have been light maps.

[GoldNCase]

@Prometheus722

lol two words,

John Carmack.

He boomed the gaming industry.

[TheNemesisInferno]

2:45 RETARDS

[kingofhanzhong1]

id tech 5 , unreal engine 3 , i wonder if cry engine 3 could be on iphone

[biplav32]

@kingofhanzhong1 It's not the full version as you can see.

[0MakoBlaster0]

If they make it for iPhone and Android, why don't make it on Wii? D:

[GoldNCase]

@0MakoBlaster0

They dislike nintendo and it doesn't have the power they want

[iTooob]

iPhone... Rage... Lmao that was hilariously genius. The guy knows his stuff...

[loveSc7]

Carmack is the best programmer in the world! The true genius

[Pompeytillidie94]

awesome that they are starting to make games like this now, it really shows what the i/pad/touch and phone are capable of so we can expect to see more games being vamped up

[MCJAILBREAKER]

DUDES THE NEXT GEN OF PHONE games is PROJECT SWORD UVE NOT SEEN games on a phone till uve seen this.

[Medevila]

@MCJAILBREAKER Rage Engine > Unreal Engine

[TitaniumGrass]

@Medevila rage engine= id Tech 5

[Doominatorx6]

@Medevila Don't forget Id Software > EVERYONE

[fpsisfun]

wow ipodtouch/iphone is a better gaming console than wii now haha XD

rofl lmao nintendo u fking fail

1. Some itouch games have better graphics than wii now look at codzombies or modern combat black pegasus

2. Most of the ipod games are 99 cents to $3 which is like 20 times cheaper than wii games and if u want to get the really good game on ipod it only like $5-$8 at most

3. Itouch is a portable MUSIC PLAYER!!! and the wii is a fking VIDEO GAME CONSOLE and itouch still a better gaming console!

[sutchsteve]

@fpsisfun don't post comments

[fpsisfun]

@sutchsteve haha do u own a wii??? XD

[Specias]

@fpsisfun Shut. The. Fuck. Up

[fpsisfun]

@Specias

you know what i noticed about when i post bad facts about the wii all the wii owners reply to me sayin stfu or ur retarded or fk u

but not once have any of them posted a reply sayin how the facts that i said about the wii is untrue never not once lol so next time 1 of u wii owners post a reply to me plz explain to me how the wii is better than what my comment described it to be

[saqibd123new]

yesss if its this good on iphone 3g or 3gs whatever

imagine how good itll be on iphone 4 or my touch 4g :D

[MrStasko]

he said it runs great on 2g iphone :) awesome

[dotsona07]

They need to bring this over to android :D

[taypuc31]

@dotsona07 I was at quakecon, and he said it most likely won't be on android because it wouldn't be worth it for them. Not enough people have android, and many of the people that do pirate their games was his reasoning.

[ThePs3reviewer]

@taypuc31 Well as you can see, Iphones/Ipods pirating have been up quite a well. Mainly because of jailbreaks, though 4gens of these idevices are not jailbreakable (yet). Maybe you are right but still, don't matter how hard you try. Mobile apps will eventually be pirated.

[miguelhidalgo94]

@ThePs3reviewer watch Greenp0ison and Limera1n out...

[chkdsk1991]

BONERRRRR

[comedypros]

lol sounds like a nerd

[xmonkeyofevil]

@comedypros With good reason. That's John Carmack, he's a rocket scientist. I mean that literally, he has his own aerospace engineering team. The man is the exact definition of nerd.

[taypuc31]

@xmonkeyofevil And he's our nerd. (I'm from Dallas)

[xmonkeyofevil]

@taypuc31 Lucky, I would of been there at Quakecon but couldn't make the drive to Dallas. I'm in San Antonio.

[cyrusken30]

@Horidikanas ps2 u joking right??? ps2 is clocked at 294.912 MHz CPU while iphone 4 beats it with 1ghz A4 processor. That alone shows u power not just optimization. By the way it will never be a gaming platform cause its a phone, but better than any portable gaming device right now.

@Warrior59 it may play on evo & X but without the retina display and game center multiplayer it will not have the same experience as playing with an iphone 4.

[DevilmanAltair]

@cyrusken30 naah ipod touch is already start being a gaming platform cause much precent of users use it as gaming device soo since itouch is being gaming device so can iphone be since they are the same just the one is phone too the fact that it is a phone doesnt say a thing since it is an iphone not like lets say android that every week a new model comes out with iphone you get new one every year only

[phlexonance]

John Carmack = GOD

[Tenktory]

Warrior59, really. It's idea of being open is also great weakness. Too many different phones. Also Google does nothing to cooperate with big developers like ID or Epic.

So have fun runnig Quake 3 demo on your awesome hardware.

[Primal89]

@Tenktory Just type "id software rage android" into google

[lonne16]

Is it just me, or does this look better than the unreal engine on iphone (epic citadel)?

[ItsJustAC]

@lonne16

On a pure texture level yes, seamless mega-textures. the performance is also 60fps compared to 30fps.

HOWEVER, Epic's tech demo is showing of a lot more complex shaders with the bump maps, normal maps and HDR. It also has its own good example of radiosity lighting using the new Unreal Lightmass like in the console/pc engine counterparts.

[kruegda]

gosh that looks better than my laptop trying to chug through fallout 3.

wow.

[kawaihui]

It'll be awesome if Iphone has a gaming control adapter with a external battery.

[QuikDJ]

Holy shit cant wait to get this on my iphone 4

[HUZ31N]

will this run on 2g devices?

[ItsJustAC]

@HUZ31N

According to Carmack, yes.

[mdmagnusson]

Carmack is like the Forest Gump of 3D gaming... Even more than that he may well be the second coming of Jesus.

[cyrusken30]

@hajvecjednom lol android wont even close to playing this, not even the evo and droid x... did u see epic citadel by unreal engine??? that shows u the power of the iphone in terms of graphics and processor... that game and rage will be a killer this holiday season i cant wait...

[Horidikanas]

@cyrusken30 Yeah, power, more like just optimization. It's still light years away from a normal gaming platform. Just wait for iPhone 613154512. That should be able to go on par with the PS2.

[drewbocop]

@cyrusken30 Same here bro, I'm excited as hell!

[karlvinland]

@drewbocop they absolutely and surely will have to tune down the graphics in order to put the AI, PHYSICS, NPCS OR CHARACTERS the full game is not gonna look near to this, this is why always we have to be very cautious with this TECH DEMOS, the game is gonna look impressive.. for a handheld, but don't expect to see this graphics in a full game

[Warrior59]

@cyrusken30 Really? Because the Droid X has the same Power VR SGX 530 Gpu the iPhone 3G has, and my Samsung Captivate also running Android has one more powerful than the iPhone 4 and iPhone 3GS. Which is a Power VR SGX 540, while yours and other peoples iPhone 4s and 3GSs have a Power VR SGX 535.

[imDarkensei]

wow.... nerd

[drewbocop]

@imDarkensei John Carmack would light your ass on fire with his mind!

[hajvecjednom]

if iPhone can run it - Android running phone can run it too. Maybe even better.

I saw android.fr some kind of Samsung Galaxy S video running some pretty damnd cool3D shooter... and it ran fast as hell

asphalt 5 for example

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[zawette]

@hajvecjednom asphalt is a bad game for an iphone

and android can't run it becaus the iphone's gfx can support more polygones than ps2 and psp

[dragoro7]

@redspade04 but that logic it's impossible to make any good pc games.

[careface2k6]

"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." -- Arthur C. Clarke

[speedy123321]

Just remember to keep 6gb on your iphone when this game comes out....

[nik0la84]

@speedy123321 Installation is 537 MB! ;)

[Darkhaarmen]

@speedy123321

exactly is 531 MB

[daivenluo]

@speedy123321 Will it's actually 743 MB

[gtareviewer789]

is it on rails. does it control like myst??

[1990rms]

Why the fuck does the iPhone have better graphics than the Wii?

[ItsJustAC]

@1990rms

Because Wii is based on technology from 1999/2000, recent smartphones are based on complex shader technologies generations ahead.

[1990rms]

@ItsJustAC

I was speaking of the logical reason behind it not the technical reason.

[ItsJustAC]

@1990rms

Ok, I see.

I guess in any case developers should have done a lot more on Wii, its a shame the approach to visual technology has been so poor - especially being a souped up Gamecube which itself was impressive.

I would have liked to see iD persue and make a little something on Wii with Megatexture. Clearly what they're doing here is very scalable and doesn't rely on heavy CPU resources.

[karlvinland]

@1990rms this demo has this graphics cause its only an empty level.. there's no AI, no physics, NPC'S OR CHARACTERS on screen. it has to be toned down to compensate this and believe me.. it will look no better than for example super mario galay on wii

[DevilmanAltair]

@karlvinland it has characters but propably as i see with no AI but since it candle 4-5 characters on this level with so good fps so it can handle more and with AI i dont think that there will be physics

[pingouinsauvage]

@1990rms better hardware, i guess. That may be why it's three time the price of a wii.

[Alyxium]

@1990rms because the Wii is 10 year old tech. And Nintendo are cheap.

[Mounce2]

@1990rms Because the Wii is the Gamecube with white duct tape.

[MajorasWrath97]

@1990rms It doesn't :P

[taypuc31]

@MajorasWrath97 Yes it is. And I own a wii. This is even running at a higher resolution.

[dtownmaverick05]

@taypuc31 Take away the megatexture technology, the baked in lighting/shading, and you're looking at a hideous, low polygon environment. Everything is static or baked in. The character models are hideously animated and PS1 in quality. It's nowhere near Wii level.

[Croketas]

@dtownmaverick05 So what's your point?? You take away Kobe Bryant's arms and legs to say he's not a good player??

[cyrax752]

@Croketas 

[HeroOfWinds007]

@1990rms

everything is static apart from a few character models which look utterly hideous and have no realistic dynamic shading/lighting/shadowing.

[thumper5555]

@1990rms To me, that didn't seem to be the case. I could see some really ugly polygons on those characters. But who know, maybe they'll improve it a lot. Plus, the Wii is 4 years old, the iphone 4 isn't even 4 months old.

[Coillscath]

@1990rms Because the Wii doesn't cost an arm and a leg. Plus it's almost 5 years old, dude.

[abhorredparadox]

@1990rms Nintendo intentionally gimped that aspect of the system (for better or worse) and Apple made it a point to push that aspect of theirs. No mystery.

[Darkoita]

@1990rms because wii is a shit

[ATLMember]

@1990rms It doesn't

[S3rtkayaftw]

@ATLMember he made a joke just shut up

[combinesoldier1229]

@ATLMember yes it does

[ATLMember]

@combinesoldier1229 No, it does not.

[jaredeldin123]

@1990rms becuz wii's suck shit

[fenixwylde]

@1990rms Wii is a toy.. you can actually do something on an iPhone. I prefer the Palm Pre but this is still an interesting demo.

[videowatcherforsale]

Them graphics look amazing.

[slot9]

this runs great on my 3g touch?.this is insane!

[dragoro7]

@PureRebelM1ko Google Nexus One running Android 2.2 Froyo.

[sufy1000]

Bloody hell that looks sweet!

[anichiba]

probably only for iPhone 4!

[WaveMaster21]

@anichiba No, it'll be available for the iPod Touch' also as it will be available to buy from the App Store like every other game :)

[WaveMaster21]

@anichiba I hope anyway, lol.

[baronvonchunk]

@anichiba He said it still looked great on an iPhone 2, so no, it's probably for every one.

[kamilbubela12]

In new iPhone is gyroscope I hope they will use it...

[Slider2k]

Freaking impressive!

[sorafinalforn]

when exactly is the realese date?

[BSavvi]

@sorafinalforn probably the same time RAGE is out on the PC and consoles which is Sep 2011, yes thats right 2011 :(

[BboyChunGViN]

any game that requires lots of action is gunna be shitty on an iphone. only games that are good on iphones r puzzle games like parking lot.

[MrBmw4life]

@BboyChunGViN are u dump wat about nova, Modern Combat Sandstorm, nfs shift, nfs under cover. they look better than any psp game i ever seen

[fearme1012]

id buy an iphone for that

[indianacheckers]

Now I have to wonder how you control a first person shooter on an iphone

[vicboy129]

damn this is the future of handheld gaming

[AboDi22lalala]

nerds WILL take over the world

[EnforcedCrowd]

@AboDi22lalala yes we will

[pyroguy5432]

@AboDi22lalala

so true D:

[dragoro7]

Looks cool, now port this to android!

[PureRebelM1ko]

@dragoro7 that is exactly what i was thinking, lol

what android do you have?

[redspade04]

@dragoro7 lol, these types of quality apps will never make it to android. i take it you never dev. with all the different android phones out there, it makes it extremely hard to do all the screen sizes, touch screens (some not even being multi touch or even good touch screens... nexus one is a great example), whether or not it has a keyboard, which processor, ram allotting, and i think you get the point. with the iphone, you have one standard and it makes it easier to make good apps. make sense

[DudeJudge]

@redspade04 ever heard of some magical box called "PC"? there are tons of games for pc, wich has millions of possible hardware variations. i dont see a problem programming games on android, you can say the hardware variation is similar to a pc plattform.

[redspade04]

@DudeJudge No it's totally different. In pc you have things called drivers that handle that stuff, while these phones do have drivers, they are handled different. When they upscale you get distortion and blocks. It's kinda hard to explain but it's

Different. I made a few and I went to port one and I had to add keyboard input and what not and I didn't feel like doing it all cause it was going to take so long it wouldn't pay off so I quit

[ravenshield56]

wowo that looks nniiiice

[killthenerd5]

people are realizing that iphone is a good hand held game system and there is money to be made in good games

[SilentAlien55]

oh dear mother of god.... this game looks fantastic :D

[1Heretic]

Revenge of the nerds!!!

[spencerisgod1990]

he must get all the girls