indoctrination is a part of life. The media indoctrinates children along with you everyday with shit that isn't real. Science indoctrinates you too. And takes singular observations to use for expanded theories not proven real to dictate how we look at things and act. That stories are religious or not, are real or not, does not mean they can't offer your mind something to ponder or way to look at things.
Lol. Colagoodfellow, cause and effect is actually...pretty straight forward. I find reality both inspiring and useful. But to each his own, and surely humans will continue to dream up comforting stories to explain reality and I.m sure they will continue to attract a devoted following.
Quote by Father Capari: The Beatitude found a principle of living where any person can find harmony in any path of life they may choose to live in so that Light and truth may be their guardian; for the Gates of enlightenment are thorns and passion and to unravel this strangulation ironically is In thy own desires & compassion, hence forth shall we survive in absolute freedom.
@AuntieDiluvian Jesus did't exist Joseph (His known name) could of but becuase his entire life is mixed with bullshit then no the one we hear of does not exist. Some Jewish man building stuff out of wood did.
@TheColaGoodfellow And there's your problem. You have swallowed the bait of religion hook, line and sinker. So did I when I was your age, but eventually I figured out what nonsense it all is, and I am happier now than I ever could have dreamed of being as a young christian haunted by fear of failure and the 'evils' of just being me. I wish you a life of rationality and intelligent free thinking. I believe one day you will toss aside the burden of religion. Take care.
Haha, I haven't swallowed any more bait than you have!
Education, maths, science, it's all indoctrination. In reality, there is no difference between science and The Bible other than the so called "miracles" (whatever that's suppsoed to mean). Both can be explained using maths, I could give you a mathematic formula for miracles if I thought about it long enough.
Sorry if I'm sounding harsh, still getting over the fact you called my God an asshole.
@TheColaGoodfellow Well that's bull if I ever heard it. Science doesn't *need* to indoctrinate or brainwash. If you don't believe it, go ahead and test it yourself!
I still remember the "miracle" of when my physics teacher mystically passed his hand through a lightbulb. Now that I've passed the course and understand optics, I don't *need* to have faith in the miracle because I know how it works.
You can't give me a math formula for the bible, nor can you try out any of the miracles in it.
Great points. A run-o-the-mill average bloke could of put forth a much more inspiring moral system than that of Jesus. It amazes me how Christians (and Muslims) see their religion as the pinnacle of morality when at best it's some second rate platitudes on top of a load of horrific crap.
good video, and I agree with almost everything that you say. But, there's probably more evidence that Jesus exissted than that he didn't, even thought it is quite clear that he was not what the gospels portray him to be. Also ou are right that Jesus didnt teach people to be anti-homophobic etc., but he did treat women with equal respect as men, something which at the time, would have caused massive contraversy and not doubt got him in trouble. Suggest you read a bit of bart ehrman.
good video, and I agree with almost everything that you say. But, there's probably more evidence that Jesus exissted than that he didn't, even thought it is quite clear that he was not what the gospels portray him to be. Also ou are right that Jesus didnt teach people to be anti-homophobic etc., but he did treat women with equal respect as men, something which at the time, would have caused massive contraversy and not doubt got
You are so enlightened! Now go visit the poor black neighborhoods here in America and spread the gospel that Jesus never existed. They are still believing in all that hocus pocus about the blood of Jesus. They still find it very comforting. That's because they don't have your superior education.
@caveatemp Cold comfort. There are many many wonderful black and white atheists, and indeed atheists from diverse backgrounds who are actually American who will get the message out. I live in Australia where religion is not such a problem. It does however occasionally become a problem and I and many others are working to change that.
@AuntieDiluvian Oh, it's even worse in the global south where christianity is exploding in numbers. It does seem to thrive in the impoverished and tyrannically trodden down areas of the world. I wonder why when it is so pro-slavery as you have clearly documented here. Why do you think? Do they have different bibles than us western educated folk? What is it about modern western education that helps us to see the clearly mythological fairy tale of christianity where the poor cannot?
@caveatemp Most evangelical sects focus almost solely on the New Testament and merely throw in a bit of the old to show how prophecy was 'fulfilled' (it certainly was not). In any case, believers can justify the most horrible things if they want to believe - they will rationalise things away that should set off huge alarm bells. Ask an African American Christian about those passages and let me know the reaction. Many may not even know the bible finds slavery acceptable.
@AuntieDiluvian I live in the "deep south" of America. They definitely know their bible here, especially the evangelical blacks. They point to the deeply anti-slavery theme in the bible. They say that the main theme is the deliverance of the Hebrews from slavery in Egypt. Slavery is still very common in the world today, especially economic slavery, of which the western educated world is under and for the most part unaware of. It's so ingrained that they don't even see it.
@caveatemp It's ironic that god didn't lift a spirit-finger to prevent the enslavement of the Israelites though, even though they were his 'chosen people'. What is interesting about slave spirituals is that they were mostly coded messages relating to the Underground Railway. River Jordan that features a lot was the Ohio river, and the Promised Land was the free states north or the Ohio. ctl.du.edu/spirituals/freedom/coded.cfm
@caveatemp Well, I'm one black guy-not too poor-that doesn't believe that crap. You'd be hard pressed to find many that don't. Now Islam's catching on like the plague. So depressing.
Nice video, very true. When I read immoral & bigoted verses in the Bible to Christians, many of them use excuses like "That verse isnt literal" or "Out of Context" They usually follow it up with, "We are supposed to just follow the teachings of Jesus (ie: the red letters)". I usually will put the ball in their court at that point, and bring up evil verses quoted by Jesus. That seems to shut the christians up & they usually dont want to discuss the matter anymore.
It's so clear now @~1:22 when the holy great "Noodlines" the "Pastamonster" returned to Earth, it was in the shape of the holy "Grilled Cheese Sandwich" ! :)
Even as one never raised Christian, I had a positive view of him as an early Gandhi or teacher of love and peace. It took a lot of effort to rip off the rose colored glasses and read the Gospels with a critical eye. His admonishments of self-mutilation, words about burning heretics and hypocrisy ("The poor ye shall always have, but ye shall not always have me") make him at best an over-rated philosopher.
@TheBadKidz I take issue with you saying "Fuck Christians" my family is christian and they're good people even if they're confused about the nature of reality. There are a lot of psychological reasons why people become religious and it isn't as much of a choice as people think.
watch?v=hU1bIixwUZA
and
watch?v=n1A9vrsw6Hw
I'm sure there's more to it, but it's not something everyone can easily discard.
I believe you will find that the "Let he who is without sin" story is a later insertion. As a practicing Jew who believed Mosaic law an actual Wheezus would never have sought to subvert it. Also much is made of the story of the money changers but the real point was that they were inside the temple, outside would have been fine.
I'm so weary of listening to the rhetoric on this fictional character, I've begun hearing nothing but "bla bla bla bla" every time a bible quoter
opens their foolish mouth to blurt out more of the nonsense trapped in their heads. Yet it is tolerated (point A), unless....they say this invisible character talked back to them (point B), then it's off to mental health! Now I find point A is the stepping off point, actually my backing away point, for my toleration of them, after 50 yrs an atheist.
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Seek him with your whole heart and you will find him, I know Jesus and I'll never be the same again after knowing the pure joy of god and there is so much more then you know atheists if only you believe in him.
@philthy122 Beware pointing out others' errors - especially when you've make some yourself ("that[']s a reflection of the level of reasoning you posses[S]").
Best way to drop the delusion of sky daddy worship, just read the particular book that your faith uses for support. Seems unreasonable at first but the only conclusion or result that can happen, is escape from the clutches of fear and loss of freewill.
@littleyellowkite Bullocks, it that was true, it would have been front page news. And the Christians would be parading down the streets. Stop believing everything you hear.
@littleyellowkite The name "Jesus" was quite common at that time, on par with John Smith. If, in fact, that name was chiseled into the stone at a bronze age intersection, it hardly qualifies as unequivocal, empirical evidence of the existance of a saviour named Jesus.
I looked. I read. I asked. I sought truth. That's why I'm an atheist.
@KCKatheist I read(The Inspired Version) I prayed.I listened.
The graffiti was a drawing of a man on the cross with the head of a donkey.The writing stated that the followers of Christ were donkeys. Jesus given name was Emmanual,
The brass was paper thin and the writing was tapped into the metal,(The Ancient Egyptians knew how to handle metals)Just like the gold plates of the Book of Mormon. For someone who never existed he did change the world....
The Old testament was not written in Greek.It was inspired by GOD to Moses who probably wrote it in ancient Egyptian or Aramaic .It was written in brass plates not on scrolls and NONE of the Greek,Roman or any other church has these plates.
Both the Greeks and Romans weeziled their own stories and pagan beliefs into the scriptures.
Suuure it was, just like the little magic books of every other superstition were ALSO "inspired by god", right? Your cult's fairy tales have no more to do with reality than any other cult's do.
@littleyellowkite Which pat of that is in anyway hypocritical? Do you want me to quote the whole unabridged bible from cover to cover? I'm sure you can look it up yourself.
And yes i'm just quoting one line from one passage; funnily enough that exactly how i found it....on a christian youtube channel.
Why is it immoral to be cruel to animals? Why should it be prohibited? I'm not opposed to it, I just haven't seen a good justification for it, i.m.o., but I'm not opposed to it.
@herpiethelovebug I know a lot of creatures suffer in a very similar way to us. I think the question I've been strugling with is "Why should we care about those who do not care about us?". We do care (I do too) but why SHOULD we?
@FHomeBrew Because humans are not separate from environment. We like to think we are, but we are not. As the populations grow, it is ever more important to maintain the physical environment, to in turn maintain the population. And animals are part of that environment. That's why we should care. Consumerism is destroying the world. Most people cant see that, far too short sighted. As far as it being immoral, thats also comes from environment. You are not born with morals.
@herpiethelovebug On both sides of the nature vs nurture issue there are studies that support one side or the other, so I guess time + science = answer regarding that matter. But tell me, what is inherently morally wrong with factory farming? We can shape the physical environment to fit our needs in maintaining the population (for now, the bubble will burst one day). So why should we care about animal suffering?
@FHomeBrew In scientific circles, there is not much argument that human behavior is overwhelmingly determined by environment. Oh there's a few who might make the argument the other way, but they usually prove to be incorrect. Its just that you never hear that, because its not newsworthy, or profitable. Speaking for myself, factory farming is not morally wrong. I am not morally opposed to it. Scientifically speaking tho, I have issues.
@herpiethelovebug I remember at least one conclusion from a study where very young children would help others without being asked to or anything, supposedly demonstrating humans are born with a will to help others. There was another study about kids in a classroom that could distinguish between rules from authority and moral right and wrong at a very early age. But I guess by then, nurture might have already have a deep impact. I'd have to look up those studies for references though.
@herpiethelovebug continued, it's certainly an interesting topic. But anyway, to reply, how are you scientifically opposed to factory farming? I'm curious because in my understanding, science is not prescriptive, especially on topic about right and wrong. Just about how the world works, not how it should work.
@FHomeBrew Well, what I mean is, factory farming promotes unforeseeable consequences. Diseases, such as mad cow, or avian flu. Or inhuman practices like cannibalism (feeding cows to cows). Also, the effect on people who kill and process the meat. I couldn't do it. In fact, if I had to do the killing, I would most likely be vegan. But I grew up in an environment of meat eaters, so I eat meat. Do you ever wonder what is in a Macdonalds burger? It ain't 100 beef I'll tell you that.
@herpiethelovebug Well cannibalism is more common in nature than you might think. Also, what's wrong with cannibalism?. At least the cows don't know they're eating other cows (I think). The diseases will occur on "green" farms as well, though maybe not as heavy and often.
The McDonalds cheese isn't cheese either. I don't even call that stuff "junk food" because I don't think it's food. As a meat eater, I would also have to be able to kill an animal for food.
@herpiethelovebug continued... And I would kill an animal for food. That's because to me, there's no difference between me killing it and me paying someone else to do it for me. Killing it yourself might be even better since that would make you face the reality of it. Other creatures kill each other all the time, why shouldn't I? (and there's the whole circle to the morality thing again).
@FHomeBrew The first thing a person would say in their step to become a serial killer.....
Genisis:ALL living things have souls.Animals feel pain,but people like you probably delights in that...What's your next question,"are children really human?"
@littleyellowkite L2read, I already said I care about animals. I've always had several pets I've cared for deeply. If we're assuming random things about each other may I assume that the only reason you don't go on a killing spree is because your magical sky daddy told you not to, even though you have the incredible urge to do it anyway if it weren't for that sky daddy? Talk about psycho.
Religion messes people up. I do believe in the fact that there are things more powerful then normal human beings but the bible seems more like a children's story gone horribly wrong to me. It really fucks people up when they realize their whole childhood they've been lied to about something like God, for some people it changes everything.
Thomas Jefferson wrote a bible without all the magic and god and called it the moral teachings of Jesus.
As a Libertarian Atheist, the fictional character Jesus does say somethings I tend to agree with. Ironically its all the things Christians ignore about Jesus which makes them hypocrites. You'll never hear a Christian believe that you shouldn't defend your self, that you should love your enemies, or if you live in violence then you'll die by violence, or that our gov't is elected by god.
I was only thinking today along the same lines that the teachings are a load of bollocks and If you asked a christian what his teachings are most would not quote more than one or two. Great video!
Great music for this. Of the few unequivocally and universally 'good' things Jesus supposedly said, all can be found in writings older than the Jesus story , contemporary to the Jesus story by people who didn't know the Jesus story, and by many wise folks and philosophers who weren't Christians or Jews.
@MrEmeraldfusion A law that can be suspended by grace arbitrarily isn't a law worth keeping. If the law was found to be unduly hard, then it should have been changed sensibly. Jesus would have been the man to do this, but he expressly held onto it.
The Pericope Adulterae is widely held to be an interpolation, although scholarly opinion differs as to the purpose, author and time of the insertion respectively omission. I reckon this confusion doesn't facilitate gleaning a "one true meaning" here.
@littleyellowkite They didn't bring the man. Perhaps he got away, we don't know. Under Jewish Law, these regulations have changed a few times. Deuteronomy declares both the male and female adulterer punishable. Leviticus restricts this, saying that they are only punishable if the betrayed man was not a foreigner.
My quibble with this passage is that Jesus apparently extends grace to civil law, basically setting a precedent of anarchy. I don't think that's a good idea.
A Christian guy that I otherwise respected, tried the "slavery was different back then" argument, and compared it to having a job in the modern world.
I never cease to be amazed how Christians can lie to themselves, to justify the shitty things that the bible condones. It has zero use as a moral compass.
Leviticus 22-10. 25:44-46 who makes a good slave. Exodus 21:7-11,13,20-2&26. how to beat your slave. Ephesians Be a good slave. Deuteronomy 20 10-14.. Colossians 3:22-25, 1 Timothy 6:1-5. 12:41-48. Titus 2:9-10,15 1 Peter 2:18-20. 6:5. Slaves obey. Luke 12-37,38,45,46,47. God tells slaves to be good or get beaten. happy to add more if anybody has any suggestions?.
"refuses anything Greek, much to his wifes relief" Well, after being schtupped with a sink plunger that was a pressie from the 'good' man, well, can ya blame all the 16 stone that shat out 16 kids of her?
I don't believe that he never existed, however, he is probably 98% fictionalised, perhaps even a combination of different myths, legends, and stories written only to fulfil the prophecies in the book that it is supposed to fulfil.
@AuntieDiluvian I'm a fairly new subscriber to your channel and so far love it. Your video of "The Creationists' Nightmare" was one of the best I have seen. This one is not to shabby either. Keep up the good work.
indoctrination is a part of life. The media indoctrinates children along with you everyday with shit that isn't real. Science indoctrinates you too. And takes singular observations to use for expanded theories not proven real to dictate how we look at things and act. That stories are religious or not, are real or not, does not mean they can't offer your mind something to ponder or way to look at things.
jdbohdan 1 month ago
Lol. Colagoodfellow, cause and effect is actually...pretty straight forward. I find reality both inspiring and useful. But to each his own, and surely humans will continue to dream up comforting stories to explain reality and I.m sure they will continue to attract a devoted following.
Laralu12 1 month ago
Ahhh, wonderful ranting, Auntie!
a2zdiy 2 months ago
Anyone who uses the phrase "*My* God..." and who actually thinks it could be something OUTSIDE of their (tiny) brain, is an arsehole.
nice vid.
calmreason 5 months ago
Where can I skip to the part of the video where Jesus says "shit"?
CappitranoBellephant 6 months ago
@CappitranoBellephant Ah - that's in the Gospel of AuntieDiluvian - one of the gospels chucked out by the Council of Nicea. Sorry!
AuntieDiluvian 6 months ago
Quote by Father Capari: The Beatitude found a principle of living where any person can find harmony in any path of life they may choose to live in so that Light and truth may be their guardian; for the Gates of enlightenment are thorns and passion and to unravel this strangulation ironically is In thy own desires & compassion, hence forth shall we survive in absolute freedom.
TheOdhisattva 6 months ago
@AuntieDiluvian Jesus did't exist Joseph (His known name) could of but becuase his entire life is mixed with bullshit then no the one we hear of does not exist. Some Jewish man building stuff out of wood did.
yuo252 7 months ago
I haven't forgotten the indoctrination of education either, *sigh* good times.
TheColaGoodfellow 8 months ago
@TheColaGoodfellow And there's your problem. You have swallowed the bait of religion hook, line and sinker. So did I when I was your age, but eventually I figured out what nonsense it all is, and I am happier now than I ever could have dreamed of being as a young christian haunted by fear of failure and the 'evils' of just being me. I wish you a life of rationality and intelligent free thinking. I believe one day you will toss aside the burden of religion. Take care.
AuntieDiluvian 8 months ago
@AuntieDiluvian
Haha, I haven't swallowed any more bait than you have!
Education, maths, science, it's all indoctrination. In reality, there is no difference between science and The Bible other than the so called "miracles" (whatever that's suppsoed to mean). Both can be explained using maths, I could give you a mathematic formula for miracles if I thought about it long enough.
Sorry if I'm sounding harsh, still getting over the fact you called my God an asshole.
TheColaGoodfellow 8 months ago
@TheColaGoodfellow Your god is an asshole, sorry to say :p
superduperjew 7 months ago
@TheColaGoodfellow Well that's bull if I ever heard it. Science doesn't *need* to indoctrinate or brainwash. If you don't believe it, go ahead and test it yourself!
I still remember the "miracle" of when my physics teacher mystically passed his hand through a lightbulb. Now that I've passed the course and understand optics, I don't *need* to have faith in the miracle because I know how it works.
You can't give me a math formula for the bible, nor can you try out any of the miracles in it.
ShallowThoughts 7 months ago
@TheColaGoodfellow "I could give you a mathematic formula for miracles if I thought about it long enough."
I will give you exactly $10,000 USD if you can. I will wait.
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@TheColaGoodfellow "Education, maths, science, it's all indoctrination."
Eh, so typical a position and so acceptable to me as I'll need someone to shine my shoes, bus my tables, and drive my cabs. Enjoy!
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Great points. A run-o-the-mill average bloke could of put forth a much more inspiring moral system than that of Jesus. It amazes me how Christians (and Muslims) see their religion as the pinnacle of morality when at best it's some second rate platitudes on top of a load of horrific crap.
ozmoroid 9 months ago
:-)
RandomAussieStuff 9 months ago
good video, and I agree with almost everything that you say. But, there's probably more evidence that Jesus exissted than that he didn't, even thought it is quite clear that he was not what the gospels portray him to be. Also ou are right that Jesus didnt teach people to be anti-homophobic etc., but he did treat women with equal respect as men, something which at the time, would have caused massive contraversy and not doubt got him in trouble. Suggest you read a bit of bart ehrman.
lotsbg 9 months ago
good video, and I agree with almost everything that you say. But, there's probably more evidence that Jesus exissted than that he didn't, even thought it is quite clear that he was not what the gospels portray him to be. Also ou are right that Jesus didnt teach people to be anti-homophobic etc., but he did treat women with equal respect as men, something which at the time, would have caused massive contraversy and not doubt got
lotsbg 9 months ago
Great stuff my friend! ;-D
Xoroaster 9 months ago
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Xoroaster 9 months ago
Hi, Auntie! Nice work. I especially liked the rant about Jesus and the woman caught in adultery.
thechaplain1 9 months ago
You are so enlightened! Now go visit the poor black neighborhoods here in America and spread the gospel that Jesus never existed. They are still believing in all that hocus pocus about the blood of Jesus. They still find it very comforting. That's because they don't have your superior education.
caveatemp 9 months ago
@caveatemp Cold comfort. There are many many wonderful black and white atheists, and indeed atheists from diverse backgrounds who are actually American who will get the message out. I live in Australia where religion is not such a problem. It does however occasionally become a problem and I and many others are working to change that.
AuntieDiluvian 9 months ago
@AuntieDiluvian Oh, it's even worse in the global south where christianity is exploding in numbers. It does seem to thrive in the impoverished and tyrannically trodden down areas of the world. I wonder why when it is so pro-slavery as you have clearly documented here. Why do you think? Do they have different bibles than us western educated folk? What is it about modern western education that helps us to see the clearly mythological fairy tale of christianity where the poor cannot?
caveatemp 9 months ago
@caveatemp Most evangelical sects focus almost solely on the New Testament and merely throw in a bit of the old to show how prophecy was 'fulfilled' (it certainly was not). In any case, believers can justify the most horrible things if they want to believe - they will rationalise things away that should set off huge alarm bells. Ask an African American Christian about those passages and let me know the reaction. Many may not even know the bible finds slavery acceptable.
AuntieDiluvian 9 months ago
@AuntieDiluvian I live in the "deep south" of America. They definitely know their bible here, especially the evangelical blacks. They point to the deeply anti-slavery theme in the bible. They say that the main theme is the deliverance of the Hebrews from slavery in Egypt. Slavery is still very common in the world today, especially economic slavery, of which the western educated world is under and for the most part unaware of. It's so ingrained that they don't even see it.
caveatemp 9 months ago
@caveatemp It's ironic that god didn't lift a spirit-finger to prevent the enslavement of the Israelites though, even though they were his 'chosen people'. What is interesting about slave spirituals is that they were mostly coded messages relating to the Underground Railway. River Jordan that features a lot was the Ohio river, and the Promised Land was the free states north or the Ohio. ctl.du.edu/spirituals/freedom/coded.cfm
AuntieDiluvian 9 months ago
@caveatemp Well, I'm one black guy-not too poor-that doesn't believe that crap. You'd be hard pressed to find many that don't. Now Islam's catching on like the plague. So depressing.
billzybobb 9 months ago
Auntie, I remain, now, and evermore, a fan.
billzybobb 9 months ago
Bravo!
stzach 9 months ago
Nice video, very true. When I read immoral & bigoted verses in the Bible to Christians, many of them use excuses like "That verse isnt literal" or "Out of Context" They usually follow it up with, "We are supposed to just follow the teachings of Jesus (ie: the red letters)". I usually will put the ball in their court at that point, and bring up evil verses quoted by Jesus. That seems to shut the christians up & they usually dont want to discuss the matter anymore.
arise212 9 months ago
You said 'jebus'! Excellent.
AtheismTV 9 months ago
I really enjoyed this music. What is it?
PS - Video was great, too.
OutlawGrrl 9 months ago
It's so clear now @~1:22 when the holy great "Noodlines" the "Pastamonster" returned to Earth, it was in the shape of the holy "Grilled Cheese Sandwich" ! :)
otur1 9 months ago
Even as one never raised Christian, I had a positive view of him as an early Gandhi or teacher of love and peace. It took a lot of effort to rip off the rose colored glasses and read the Gospels with a critical eye. His admonishments of self-mutilation, words about burning heretics and hypocrisy ("The poor ye shall always have, but ye shall not always have me") make him at best an over-rated philosopher.
DeistPaladin 9 months ago
Fuck Christians
TheBadKidz 9 months ago
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@TheBadKidz I take issue with you saying "Fuck Christians" my family is christian and they're good people even if they're confused about the nature of reality. There are a lot of psychological reasons why people become religious and it isn't as much of a choice as people think.
watch?v=hU1bIixwUZA
and
watch?v=n1A9vrsw6Hw
I'm sure there's more to it, but it's not something everyone can easily discard.
Samuria11 9 months ago
JEBUS SABES.
TomMSTie1138 9 months ago
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John 8:7
If any one of you is without sin, let him be the first to throw a stone at her.
***This is a forgery added 100’s of years later after the original, not found in any early writing of the gospel of John.
So the original jesus character was totally for stoning, as in Mark 7:10
10 For Moses said, “Honor your father and your mother, and, anyone who curses his father or mother MUST be put to death.”
*Also in Exodus 21:17; Lev. 20:9
Good video Auntie!
Fastlan3 9 months ago
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John 8:7
If any one of you is without sin, let him be the first to throw a stone at her.
***This is a forgery added 100’s of years later after the original, not found in any early writing of the gospel of John.
So the original jesus character was totally for stoning, as in Mark 7:10
10 For Moses said, “Honor your father and your mother, and, anyone who curses his father or mother MUST be put to death.”
*Also in Exodus 21:17; Lev. 20:9
Good video Auntie!
Fastlan3 9 months ago
Great background music!
I believe you will find that the "Let he who is without sin" story is a later insertion. As a practicing Jew who believed Mosaic law an actual Wheezus would never have sought to subvert it. Also much is made of the story of the money changers but the real point was that they were inside the temple, outside would have been fine.
colourmegone 9 months ago
I'm so weary of listening to the rhetoric on this fictional character, I've begun hearing nothing but "bla bla bla bla" every time a bible quoter
opens their foolish mouth to blurt out more of the nonsense trapped in their heads. Yet it is tolerated (point A), unless....they say this invisible character talked back to them (point B), then it's off to mental health! Now I find point A is the stepping off point, actually my backing away point, for my toleration of them, after 50 yrs an atheist.
CrankyCrone 9 months ago
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Seek him with your whole heart and you will find him, I know Jesus and I'll never be the same again after knowing the pure joy of god and there is so much more then you know atheists if only you believe in him.
mh4777abc 9 months ago
@mh4777abc what's his favorite colour? Pray now and ask him? Will other christians agree with you?......It's all in your head dude.
alienlifeform11 9 months ago 2
@mh4777abc It's all in your head - absolutely.
AuntieDiluvian 9 months ago 28
@mh4777abc
You belong in a mental hospital, please keep you insanity to yourself.
Fastlan3 9 months ago
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@mh4777abc
You belong in a mental hospital, please keep you insanity to yourself.
Fastlan3 9 months ago
@mh4777abc well 'he' didn't give you amazing powers of spelling - it should be "than" not "then"
Or perhaps thats a reflection of the level of reasoning you posses....sad
philthy122 9 months ago
@philthy122 Beware pointing out others' errors - especially when you've make some yourself ("that[']s a reflection of the level of reasoning you posses[S]").
Peace.
klhcc 9 months ago
@klhcc point well maded
philthy122 9 months ago
Great video. Accurate to the finest points.
Netwriter 9 months ago
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@TLSlayer1 But there is no evidence. So why would you believe that?
herpiethelovebug 9 months ago
Cool music, nice rant.
aotweb2 9 months ago
The story of the adulterous woman is definitely made up, wasn't even a part of the original gospel.
adrenacrumb 9 months ago
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@adrenacrumb-"The story of the adulterous woman is definitely made up, wasn't even a part of the original gospel." Can you prove that?
MrEmeraldfusion 9 months ago
Not only is the story of the adulterous woman not nice, but it's an 11th-12th century forgery; see Bart D Ehrman
SiriusMined 9 months ago
Best way to drop the delusion of sky daddy worship, just read the particular book that your faith uses for support. Seems unreasonable at first but the only conclusion or result that can happen, is escape from the clutches of fear and loss of freewill.
saxmanchiro 9 months ago
that music is annoying.
lashkaretoiba 9 months ago
nice one
cjeffers101 9 months ago
There is archeological proof there was a Jesus....Found written on a wall with a "graffiti" drawing.
Look and you shall find....If you truly want to know.
littleyellowkite 9 months ago
@littleyellowkite Bullocks, it that was true, it would have been front page news. And the Christians would be parading down the streets. Stop believing everything you hear.
herpiethelovebug 9 months ago
@littleyellowkite The name "Jesus" was quite common at that time, on par with John Smith. If, in fact, that name was chiseled into the stone at a bronze age intersection, it hardly qualifies as unequivocal, empirical evidence of the existance of a saviour named Jesus.
I looked. I read. I asked. I sought truth. That's why I'm an atheist.
KCKatheist 9 months ago
@KCKatheist I read(The Inspired Version) I prayed.I listened.
The graffiti was a drawing of a man on the cross with the head of a donkey.The writing stated that the followers of Christ were donkeys. Jesus given name was Emmanual,
The brass was paper thin and the writing was tapped into the metal,(The Ancient Egyptians knew how to handle metals)Just like the gold plates of the Book of Mormon. For someone who never existed he did change the world....
littleyellowkite 9 months ago
The Old testament was not written in Greek.It was inspired by GOD to Moses who probably wrote it in ancient Egyptian or Aramaic .It was written in brass plates not on scrolls and NONE of the Greek,Roman or any other church has these plates.
Both the Greeks and Romans weeziled their own stories and pagan beliefs into the scriptures.
littleyellowkite 9 months ago
@littleyellowkite
Suuure it was, just like the little magic books of every other superstition were ALSO "inspired by god", right? Your cult's fairy tales have no more to do with reality than any other cult's do.
StaceyC123 9 months ago
@littleyellowkite I see, so the perfect word of god was diluted by man. And he is ok with that. Hmmm
herpiethelovebug 9 months ago
@herpiethelovebug Ever heard of the Inspired version of the scriptures..........
littleyellowkite 9 months ago
@littleyellowkite Nope, and if there was a god, I'm sure I would.
herpiethelovebug 9 months ago
The woman taken in adultery was added many centuries after Jebus died, if he ever existed, he was not the source of the story.
TheTomtompiper 9 months ago
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@TheTomtompiper Where is YOUR proof
littleyellowkite 9 months ago
Jesus would have been one of those cunts that are ok in a pub but two pints in they become right bastards.
monkeytail2002 9 months ago
Hi Auntie, where were you when I was a wee lad? I could have used an auntie like you.
mcrd2001 9 months ago
Mithra, Apollonius of Tyana, Krishna... all those guys have been attributed as being inspirations for ole Jay-boy.
Also, the Gilgamesh epic is the inspiration for Noah and his water problems.
JesusCockInAllahAss 9 months ago 11
This is more like it! It is good to hear that people, like you, are cutting through the bs.
ThotherBrother 9 months ago
I am aware of one line from the bible that atheists will agree with.
"Prove all things; hold fast that which is good" 1 Thessalonians 5:21
shame fundies don't put that one into practice.
Ok i feel dirty after quoting the bibble.....time for a bleach bath.
philthy122 9 months ago
@philthy122 hahahah
davidealessio 9 months ago
@philthy122 Quote the whole thing not just a portion hypocrite.
littleyellowkite 9 months ago
@littleyellowkite Which pat of that is in anyway hypocritical? Do you want me to quote the whole unabridged bible from cover to cover? I'm sure you can look it up yourself.
And yes i'm just quoting one line from one passage; funnily enough that exactly how i found it....on a christian youtube channel.
So i politely suggest you get over yourself :)
philthy122 9 months ago 3
Why is it immoral to be cruel to animals? Why should it be prohibited? I'm not opposed to it, I just haven't seen a good justification for it, i.m.o., but I'm not opposed to it.
FHomeBrew 9 months ago
@FHomeBrew Its a thing called empathy. Look into it.
herpiethelovebug 9 months ago
@herpiethelovebug I know a lot of creatures suffer in a very similar way to us. I think the question I've been strugling with is "Why should we care about those who do not care about us?". We do care (I do too) but why SHOULD we?
FHomeBrew 9 months ago
@FHomeBrew Because humans are not separate from environment. We like to think we are, but we are not. As the populations grow, it is ever more important to maintain the physical environment, to in turn maintain the population. And animals are part of that environment. That's why we should care. Consumerism is destroying the world. Most people cant see that, far too short sighted. As far as it being immoral, thats also comes from environment. You are not born with morals.
herpiethelovebug 9 months ago
@herpiethelovebug On both sides of the nature vs nurture issue there are studies that support one side or the other, so I guess time + science = answer regarding that matter. But tell me, what is inherently morally wrong with factory farming? We can shape the physical environment to fit our needs in maintaining the population (for now, the bubble will burst one day). So why should we care about animal suffering?
FHomeBrew 9 months ago
@FHomeBrew In scientific circles, there is not much argument that human behavior is overwhelmingly determined by environment. Oh there's a few who might make the argument the other way, but they usually prove to be incorrect. Its just that you never hear that, because its not newsworthy, or profitable. Speaking for myself, factory farming is not morally wrong. I am not morally opposed to it. Scientifically speaking tho, I have issues.
herpiethelovebug 9 months ago
@herpiethelovebug I remember at least one conclusion from a study where very young children would help others without being asked to or anything, supposedly demonstrating humans are born with a will to help others. There was another study about kids in a classroom that could distinguish between rules from authority and moral right and wrong at a very early age. But I guess by then, nurture might have already have a deep impact. I'd have to look up those studies for references though.
FHomeBrew 9 months ago
@herpiethelovebug continued, it's certainly an interesting topic. But anyway, to reply, how are you scientifically opposed to factory farming? I'm curious because in my understanding, science is not prescriptive, especially on topic about right and wrong. Just about how the world works, not how it should work.
FHomeBrew 9 months ago
@FHomeBrew Well, what I mean is, factory farming promotes unforeseeable consequences. Diseases, such as mad cow, or avian flu. Or inhuman practices like cannibalism (feeding cows to cows). Also, the effect on people who kill and process the meat. I couldn't do it. In fact, if I had to do the killing, I would most likely be vegan. But I grew up in an environment of meat eaters, so I eat meat. Do you ever wonder what is in a Macdonalds burger? It ain't 100 beef I'll tell you that.
herpiethelovebug 9 months ago
@herpiethelovebug Well cannibalism is more common in nature than you might think. Also, what's wrong with cannibalism?. At least the cows don't know they're eating other cows (I think). The diseases will occur on "green" farms as well, though maybe not as heavy and often.
The McDonalds cheese isn't cheese either. I don't even call that stuff "junk food" because I don't think it's food. As a meat eater, I would also have to be able to kill an animal for food.
FHomeBrew 9 months ago
@herpiethelovebug continued... And I would kill an animal for food. That's because to me, there's no difference between me killing it and me paying someone else to do it for me. Killing it yourself might be even better since that would make you face the reality of it. Other creatures kill each other all the time, why shouldn't I? (and there's the whole circle to the morality thing again).
FHomeBrew 9 months ago
@FHomeBrew The first thing a person would say in their step to become a serial killer.....
Genisis:ALL living things have souls.Animals feel pain,but people like you probably delights in that...What's your next question,"are children really human?"
littleyellowkite 9 months ago
@littleyellowkite L2read, I already said I care about animals. I've always had several pets I've cared for deeply. If we're assuming random things about each other may I assume that the only reason you don't go on a killing spree is because your magical sky daddy told you not to, even though you have the incredible urge to do it anyway if it weren't for that sky daddy? Talk about psycho.
FHomeBrew 9 months ago
While I love your musical videos... these always bring a bit of joy to my day :) Informative :)
tattooskin72 9 months ago
"Where's the birth certificate"?
LOVE IT.
AncientAtheist 9 months ago
Oh I love your voice
ekhaat 9 months ago
And if he did exist, how much did he charge for a set of shelves?
falchion49 9 months ago
@falchion49 no no no if he did exist, how much did he charge for a crucifixion cross...
zoxovox 9 months ago
Religion messes people up. I do believe in the fact that there are things more powerful then normal human beings but the bible seems more like a children's story gone horribly wrong to me. It really fucks people up when they realize their whole childhood they've been lied to about something like God, for some people it changes everything.
SkepsisDub 9 months ago
Thomas Jefferson wrote a bible without all the magic and god and called it the moral teachings of Jesus.
As a Libertarian Atheist, the fictional character Jesus does say somethings I tend to agree with. Ironically its all the things Christians ignore about Jesus which makes them hypocrites. You'll never hear a Christian believe that you shouldn't defend your self, that you should love your enemies, or if you live in violence then you'll die by violence, or that our gov't is elected by god.
CelticAlphabet 9 months ago
@CelticAlphabet Thomas Jefferson had many children with his slave and took credit f or inventing mac and cheese........
littleyellowkite 9 months ago
Yep, Bollocks is definitely the right word to use when discussing jebus, the bible, and all the shit therein.
unixhead101 9 months ago
Many philosophers and scientists back then said things that were much more intelligent and beautiful, things that I'd actually like to remember.
freetrader0000 9 months ago
So very true :)
kaxitaksi 9 months ago
I was only thinking today along the same lines that the teachings are a load of bollocks and If you asked a christian what his teachings are most would not quote more than one or two. Great video!
Darwinsgift 9 months ago
@Darwinsgift Yeah,so HOW MANY did you ask~
littleyellowkite 9 months ago
thank you auntie. you have a good message, and i had a good laugh or two. and the lack of a catchy tune didn't hurt either. on that note....
peace, lardo444.
lardo444 9 months ago
Dead on target and bitingly so!
stromatolite775 9 months ago
Great music for this. Of the few unequivocally and universally 'good' things Jesus supposedly said, all can be found in writings older than the Jesus story , contemporary to the Jesus story by people who didn't know the Jesus story, and by many wise folks and philosophers who weren't Christians or Jews.
MacNutz2 9 months ago
If Jesus said "let he who is without sin cast the first stone", then why didn't he himself do it?
Duh.
blackwolf1200 9 months ago 6
@blackwolf1200-Because Jesus was showing grace...John 1:17
For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.
MrEmeraldfusion 9 months ago
@MrEmeraldfusion A law that can be suspended by grace arbitrarily isn't a law worth keeping. If the law was found to be unduly hard, then it should have been changed sensibly. Jesus would have been the man to do this, but he expressly held onto it.
The Pericope Adulterae is widely held to be an interpolation, although scholarly opinion differs as to the purpose, author and time of the insertion respectively omission. I reckon this confusion doesn't facilitate gleaning a "one true meaning" here.
blackwolf1200 9 months ago
@blackwolf1200 Ask why did they bring the MAN before Jesus...She didn't do it alone~
Jesus point,all are sinners.Jesus was bring common sense to the laws of Moses... DUH!
littleyellowkite 9 months ago
@littleyellowkite They didn't bring the man. Perhaps he got away, we don't know. Under Jewish Law, these regulations have changed a few times. Deuteronomy declares both the male and female adulterer punishable. Leviticus restricts this, saying that they are only punishable if the betrayed man was not a foreigner.
My quibble with this passage is that Jesus apparently extends grace to civil law, basically setting a precedent of anarchy. I don't think that's a good idea.
blackwolf1200 9 months ago
Someone had to say that...
Wrath0fKhan 9 months ago
A Christian guy that I otherwise respected, tried the "slavery was different back then" argument, and compared it to having a job in the modern world.
I never cease to be amazed how Christians can lie to themselves, to justify the shitty things that the bible condones. It has zero use as a moral compass.
TychoCelchu 9 months ago
@TychoCelchu I have run into that "Slavery was different and therefore alright" excuse several times. The pretzel logic used is amazing to behold.
Meatbag211 9 months ago
SLAVERY’S OK WITH GOD.
Leviticus 22-10. 25:44-46 who makes a good slave. Exodus 21:7-11,13,20-2&26. how to beat your slave. Ephesians Be a good slave. Deuteronomy 20 10-14.. Colossians 3:22-25, 1 Timothy 6:1-5. 12:41-48. Titus 2:9-10,15 1 Peter 2:18-20. 6:5. Slaves obey. Luke 12-37,38,45,46,47. God tells slaves to be good or get beaten. happy to add more if anybody has any suggestions?.
itsasin1969 9 months ago 3
Well said ★★★★★
Katalyzt
Katalyzt 9 months ago
@Katalyzt Here we are with only bits and pieces not the whole scripture......
littleyellowkite 9 months ago
I'm a jesus birther. myself
no1saphead 9 months ago
Great video , I love it , thank you . I would like to recommend you display the bible verse you are quoting in text and not just read it out loud.
itsasin1969 9 months ago
"refuses anything Greek, much to his wifes relief" Well, after being schtupped with a sink plunger that was a pressie from the 'good' man, well, can ya blame all the 16 stone that shat out 16 kids of her?
Rockster969 9 months ago
I don't believe that he never existed, however, he is probably 98% fictionalised, perhaps even a combination of different myths, legends, and stories written only to fulfil the prophecies in the book that it is supposed to fulfil.
dangerouslytalented 9 months ago 2
@AuntieDiluvian I'm a fairly new subscriber to your channel and so far love it. Your video of "The Creationists' Nightmare" was one of the best I have seen. This one is not to shabby either. Keep up the good work.
Gliese581f 9 months ago