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  • The only crazy "rapture" theory is th pre-trib one.

  • there is no such thing a rapture, it is a jesuits belief of a lie and it has grown around three hundred years. God speaks of the resurrection, through the tribulation through faith the believers will overcome their test. Some will die and some will live. But after the tribulation the resurrection of many will arise and be with the Lord on earth for a thousand years to live with Him. Amen.

  • The rapture is a false teaching. Believe in the rapture and you are setting yourself up to worship the Anti-Christ!

  • I can imagine, that the great falling away of the faith will be caused by the rapture not taking place when most of the Church thinks it will happen (i.e. pre-trib), as they have been continuously taught/indoctrinated in church... so most "Christians" will be disappointed if they should go through any part of the Great Tribulation (the last 3 1/2 years), because they didn't prepare for it. To all... the Antichrist must be revealed first, AND sitting in the newly rebuilt Jewish temple.

  • @AntichristComes Or, you stage a fake rapture and take only 144,000 people and remove all doubt that you just broke the spirit of ALL christians. you see, there will be a "fake" rapture, because then you leave every christian on earth who has been taught the rapture doctrine that nothing can be done to save themselves, so they will be more likely to follow the devil. if you teach a rapture doctrine then fail to produce one (pre-trib) then that occomplishes nothing for the devil.

  • Rapture is a conspiracy theory, it is the most incredible cover-up ever believed by many Christians today!

  • THANK GOD I DONT BELIEVE IN RELIGION. I DONT UNDERSTAND HOW CAN ONE CANT SEE THAT THE BIBLE IS NOTHING MORE THEN HISTORY ABOUT A CERTAIN BLOODLINE. CLEARLY WE ALL DONT COME FROM ADAM AND EVE BECAUSE THE BIBLE DISCRETELY TELLS THE READER. NOW I DO BELIEVE IN JESUS BUT ALOT ABOUT THE MAN WAS KEPT OUT FOR REASONS THAT SERVE THOSE WHO GAVE US THE BIBLE TO BEGIN WITH. ITS NOT GOD TALKING ITS MORE LIKE PERSONAL ENCOUNTERS WITH SOMETHING THATS NOT UNDERSTOOD BY ALMOST ALL RELIGIONS. WAKE UP!

  • @MALEE204 Can you help us "WAKE UP?" I'm open-minded...so what reasons do you have for these statements?

    You do no justice whatsoever implying that the bible is telling lies without PROVIDING SOME SORT OF EVIDENCE AS TO WHY YOU BELIEVE THIS. Otherwise, you sound like everyone else that discredits the bible based on their feelings, with no argument or evidence as to why.

    This guy talks about this in this video. Did you not hear?

  • @MALEE204

    athiests are religious. they dont believe in anything. That is a religion, they continue to teach others no to believe in God. How about that ?

  • zechariah chap.5 speaks on aliens and they are an abomination.

  • How do we know that you are not working for the aliens?

  • If there was a Pre Trib, Pre Antichrist, Pre Mark of The Beast, Pre Day of The Lord Rapture. Why would Jesus say we would go through tribulation?

    It will be easy to deceive weak and false Christians into receiving The Mark of The Beast. They 'll say.... "Oh it's alright. It can't be The Mark of The Beast. We haven't been Raptured yet."

    Rapture believers are unprepared for the end. "Blessed are those who endure until the end.

    There a "GATHERING" at the LAST TRUMP. No rapture.

  • Yeah. This is all horseshit. This is why humanity is so fucked up. Putting faith in a misinterpreted idealogical monolith is lunacy. Trying to predict the course of humanity by a fraudulently compiled historical account is like trying to find the cure for cancer with a flashlight. people have some wild imaginations and will believe anything if it's sold to them. the world would have been so much better without religion. Sigh...

  • I believe in a Rapture I was one who leaned more towards Post but now I lean more towards PreWrath. I think PreTrib is a utter lie that is propagated specifically for the reasons Chris spoke of so Satan can LIE about it to convince the Christians they missed it. There by making Millions of Lukewarm Christians lose all Faith and accept the Aliens as Gods. I believe the NWO and the Aliens will reveal themselves after WW3 but way before the actual Rapture. PBB will fake it thats the great deception

  • @daciple It will be easy for Satan to deceive those who believe in a PRE Antichrist Rapture. They'll say.....

    "It's alright. Don't worry. It can't be The Mark of The Beast. We haven't been Raptured yet."

    The Bible says....... "Blessed are those who endure until the end." It means what it says.

    There is no Rapture. Only a "GATHERING" at the LAST TRUMP. Just as the Bible says.

  • EXCELLENT WORK C.W. !! I too have come to the same basic conclusion ... Through what I have read & seen - especially The Word . Praise GOD for discernment by HIS HOLY SPIRIT & our LORD JESUS CHRIST forever !!! Thank you , Sal Caruso

  • Knowwheretorun...in your research into this matter of the rapture, did you come across a site called "Answers in Revelation," authored by Tim Warner? If not, do a search on it and check it out. It provides the most thoroughly biblical case against pre-tribulationism that I have seen on the web.

  • But if it DID, 7th trump all the way.

  • I really don't care if there is a rapture or not, because none of it would matter if I don't continue to grow right with the Lord. Now, I don't believe in it, because not one instance in the bible was the men of God ever taken away from His wrath, but rather protected or hid. If anything Satan is using the rapture to get the Christians to simply give up, because they think they will be saved. If all are gone then no one would be left to preach to the lost and I don't think God would do that.

  • As someone writing form outside the US, Australia to be exact i can say having studied at least two theological colleges here that dispensational beliefs of eschatology are not strong or popular here.

    It seem in only the USA mainly where the Schofield bible really took off in popularity that these dispensational premill belifs are strongest. The point iam trying to make is that americans should realise this fact that many outside of the US do no share their views of eschatology!.

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  • at least the video is accurately titled

    beam me up, scotty

  • I believe what the bible says; there will be a rapture at the blowing of the LAST TRUMP. Then we meet Christ in the air at his return, which is like a flash of light.

  • you didnt sat a thing during the entire 9:40. the rapture is speculation at best. same as the "trinity". you made no sense with your rambling. if you have a point, you should make it. you are obiviously Baptist. do you know what the definition of a cult is? tell us and then tell us how your religon differs. you are too biased to make an intelligent decision because, to you, the bible is infalible. tell us if i am wrong. is the bible the word of god?

  • The Catholic teachings all emanate from the Bible, and I don't care what history books have to say about it, the ones I know and the ones I don't. I'm faithful to the Scriptures, you keep your faith to the history books. The Catholic Church established the canon of the Scriptures and decided what the New Testament was, and OMG you read it and (allegedly) put your faith in it! The Catholic Church uses the Old Testament that Jesus and the apostles used, but you probably use Luther's instead.

  • @Fetrovsky Oh yeah, and I meant this to be a response to @brown55061 (of course).

  • @brown55061 Oh, and incidentally, why would the Catholic Church establish a Scripture Cannon, and then (as you allege) go and establish traditions *contrary* to the scriptures in that cannon? And more appropriately, why would protestants and other so called "Christians" accept the Catholic cannon for the New Testament but use a trimmed-down version of the Old Testament? Answer: to justify their twisted theology and unholy teachings and traditions.

  • @Fetrovsky

    You still think the Catholic church created the Bible canon HA. The Orthodox and Anglican establishments weren't even in power when this was decided. Roman Catholics rejected Hebrews and James for a long time. Rome's church actually accepted books NOT in the Canon, then later removed them. Inspired? Research the two synods of Carthage and Hippo. Tertullian and Jerome handed down oral historical traditions NOT in the Bible that you practice today. You are the one endulging history.

  • @Fetrovsky THE CATHOLIC CHURCH IS AN ABOMINATION IN THE EYES OF GOD & IS REFERRED 2 AS THE WHORE OF BABYLON, IN THE BOOK OF REVELATION, THEY ARE IDOL WORSHIPPERS & MOST CATHOLICS DO NOT EVEN REALIZE THIS BECAUSE OF THEIR SIMPLISTIC FAITH THAT ROMAN CATHOLICISM IS OF GOD. MOST OF THE CATHOLIC PRACTICES CAN BE TRACED BY TO THE TIME OF EMPEROR CONSTANTINE WHO INCORPORATED / COMBINED THE THE RELIGION OF THE ROMANS WITH CHRISTIANITY AND HENCE THE CORRUPTION OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH AS IT STANDS TODAY

  • @Fetrovsky

    Eminate eh? Like infant sprinkling, right? Because there are zero cases of that in the good book. Your religion didn't exist until the 4th century and evolved for 1000 years, end of story.

    The point I made was that the actual Christians who wrote about the church before the days of Constantine explained their actions and bible practices. It differs greatly from what you practice in your denomination today. I'm not a Lutheran, nor do I associate with any denomination. Fail!

  • The Catholic Church did not "Take Over". It's always been the Catholic Church, with stems branching out due to the satanic influence that confuses minds. You say that it wasn't called Catholic in the beginning? Right, because it was one Christian Church. The Christian Church has *always* been Catholic, since Peter's vision. Is the Trinity false because the word does not appear in the Bible? Come back to the Catholic Church! We are waiting for you!

  • @Fetrovsky

    The Catholic church did not exist until 325 AD. The first Pope was not declared infallible until after 1000 AD. The church was never called a diocese. The one church spoken of in the word had nothing to do with a man made organization of hierarchical titles like Cardinal, Bishop, Pope. Christ's teaching defied that. Christ's church has no earthly headquarters like your diocese for a reason. Your going to be waiting for us real Christians for a long time! Enjoy the koolaid.

  • @brown55061 The Catholic Church is the "real" Christian Church. Satan keeps pushing people into believing all sorts of different things. The Catholic Church was "invented" by Jesus Christ when he said go and make disciples of *all nations*. The Pope does not need to be declared infallible to be infallible. The pope is not actually infallible, what is infallible is the Holy Spirit who inspires him. Dioceses, Cardinals, and the such are part of a structure that the Church devised for itself.

  • @Fetrovsky

    You're really going to use Matt 28 as a pretext to Catholicism? What history books have you read on this subject, if any? The Spirit is in us all, but no man is without sin. You pray to Mary; hence idolatry. The one true church's headquarters are in heaven, yours is Rome (where they count your money). They condone homosexual priests and call them Father, even against scripture. The problem here is you are lacking a historical education on these matters, as well as scripture. Sorry!

  • @brown55061 Call it pretext if you're predisposed to believing that I have to be wrong and you right since I'm a catholic. It doesn't matter. The Spirit is not in "us all". The Spirit (and since you capitalized it, I believe you must be talking about the Holy Spirit) lives in those who receive him.  Do you really believe that just by saying "Oh Lord I believe you are God, come and dwell in me" you're going to receive the Holy Spirit? The Holy Spirit comes to us through the sacraments.

  • @Fetrovsky

    If you are part of ANY denomination, it means you are part of a divided whole. Was Chris divided? No! Even Catholicism itself is divided in sects.

    The Spirit can dwell in those who are Christians. I never said anything about "Oh Lord I believe". I know exactly what the Apostles and Christ taught about conversion, and how your religion doesn't even do THAT in context but instead have pagan rituals from traditions. God's word says you are wrong, not me! Argue with the author.

  • @brown55061 You're right, the body of Christ is not divided. Many members may have fallen off, or yanked out, but the body of Christ is one: The faithful within the Catholic Church. Even if we're just a handful. We have Sacraments instituted by Christ himself and performed by the authority he established, and we have traditions developed in accordance to the Scriptures -- never against them. The Holy Spirit dwells in those who are properly baptized, and in current state of Sanctifying Grace.

  • @Fetrovsky

    History, the Bible, and books all prove Catholicism is sinful. Authors like Josephus, Justin Martyr, Tertullian and many more attest to this in their writings, which we both know you are ignorant of. Your Roman Catholic church didn't even accept the Apocrypha until the 16th century. Your preists, who take the blasphemous name of Father, would have you read a catechism and pray to a Mary instead of God, through Christ as we are commanded to do. Bible History 1, Fetrovsky 0 Stop!

  • Daniel 7 clearly states that christians will be on earth during the tribulation.

    "As I watched, this horn was waging war against the saints and defeating them, until the Ancient of Days came and pronounced judgment in favor of the saints of the Most High, and the time came when they possesed the kingdom"

    "He will speak against the Most High and oppress his saints and try to change the times and the laws. The saints will be handed over to him for a time, times and a half a time."

  • Read your Bibles people. It's all there on black on white. The reason there is a debate is because someone wants it to be.

    See this: /watch?v=c5uvF2ovEHA&feature=c­hannel

  • You've really done your homework on this matter!

  • How about we all start working on a "Right" relationship with Christ instead of all trying to be right? Do we remember the warnings about sheep and goats? Do we really hear Jesus voice when He speaks to us? Or are we all simply reading the Word of God and think we can figure it all out? If we have a very personal relationship with Christ, it won't matter when/if there is a "rapture" anyway. Remember: Many will come to me in that day and say Lord, Lord! Let's pray for one another, we all need it.

  • @PatrickONB Well said....

  • @PatrickONB

    EXACTLY! Our primary goal is to seek and save the lost. Get people to hear the word, believe it, repent, confess Christ and be immersed to forgive one's sins. If we are in that condition it won't matter when the end is.

    II Pet 3:10-12. It will be like a thief in the night. If everyone expects it to be 2012, it won't be. Peter says everything will be burned up with fervent heat on the Lord's day. Those expecting to hang out afterwords are going to be very toasty!

  • What if the beast fromt he sea is actually some demonic/alien beast coming from atlantis(FAKE-new jerusalem? or something?)

    What if the meaning of the restored roman empire in daniel,IS NOT a big europe,

    but more likely a restored empire of their roman 'gods'?('aliens')

    (wich R also Summerian and Greek 'gods')

    And what if the 'mingling' in daniel means not only the mingling between muslims and the west,

    but maybe also the mingling between fallen angels and humans?

  • @Ult1mateUltron Unless aliens have life spans of several hundred billion years, they cannot travel here, if they even exist, which is possible. Even at light speed it would take billions of years for these supposed aliens to reach us. So if there is an alien invasion, im gonna be real real skeptical about it.

  • @SupremeAmerican

    DONT U GET IT????

    They are not aliens!!!!They are demons who play pretend to be aliens.

    ITS ALL A BIG TRICK!!!

    they dont need to travel billions of years,they where here al along.

    And even if they where real aliens,then what makes u think that their technology wouldnt have overcome this distance problem?

    U dont even know anything about these 'aliens' or their technology,yet u make the claim that their technology is not capable of this...

  • What if there is a false rapture before the real one?

    What if there is a fake endtime scenario before the real one?

    What if the 'aliens' are even gonna make all this even more complicated by playing a good cop bad cop scenario?

    Reptillians vs pleiadins or something like that?

    What if there is not just 1 antichrist rulling 7 years,considering there is a woman,a dragon,and TWO beasts?

    What if the reason the false prophet is called so,is becuase he is a fakeprophet jesus announced by islam?

  • The question is... where in the Bible does it say anything of a rapture...

    Most importantly however - is the false doctrine of a kingdom of God on earth... thats the most dangerous and is the way people will be totally decieved of when the NWO will be established. No christians understand that REVELATION has occured.. Its finished. and we live in the milennia now - the new Jerusalem - is now in the heaven.. thats why John the batist said - the kingom of god is at hand. check out Kenneth Gentry

  • bravo...amazing....i could not have possibly said it better. god bless.

  • Gods' love for us is so great I wouldn't doubt there would be a rapture to spare us from the great tribulation, but whether we are spared or not, lets not forget the ultimate goal here

  • well balanced

  • Replace the word "rapture" with the word "mystery" in the bible and the facts will become clear. The "Rescue" will occur at the sounding of the 7th Trumpet. We are at the the door of the 5th Trumpet and many are still asleep. When the 6th Trumpet sounds they will begin killing over 2 billion people on earth...maybe this will wake them up so that they can repent and be saved.

  • If it's any consolation I don't think your crazy because that would be a very affective plan. Not so quick to believe that's how things are going to happen though.

  • No the NT does not teach a pre trib rapture. You can read into the text in a couple places a vauge idea of pre trib. There is no mystery To pauls teaching in 1st and 2cnd thess. The gathering of believers happens AFTER the anti-christ is revealed by performing the abomination of deescolation in the temple. The Gathering happens just before divine judgement and there is no need for an explanation or a trick by satan. They will be under divine judgement.

  • Nice video. I see you have Benjamin Creme in one of your photos. Have you considered, the star he constantly harps on will actually be the sign of the son of man that will appear in the sky when Jesus returns for the rapture? That matreya guy doesn't know himself when its going to appear so he's just waiting and getting pretty old now

  • Dude, Knowheretorun1984 - that was bloody insightful. I've been wrapping my head around alot of things latley. You are one of those Christians that will be prepared for everything, as I have been preparing myself for everything. We just had a man leave our house that believed much of what you are speaking against iwth planets colliding with earth, and little people that are invisible, almost shape shifters, like thevinerhyme's Nephilim Rising right. Great video.

  • 1 corinthians 15:51 - 55 it says at the last trumpet that it will happen --- there are 7 trumpets in revelation--- all so if u read mattews chapter 24 ---- all this will show the rapture happens after the tribulation period

  • I'm still a pre-trib person.

  • Undoubtedly, the world system that would soon be in place or will be already in place at the time of the rapture, would promote making nice with the ET's, a friendly welcome so to speak to distract from who and what they really are. It's gonna be a time of mass deception as stated in scripture. As you pointed out, these ET's are actually demons (fallen angels) in disguise working for Satan behind the scenes strategically working against Israel which will culminate into the Armageddon campaign.

  • Finally! I thought I might be alone in my thoughts on this subject but you have iterated very closely my views. The new show "V" on ABC has strong under and overtones with regard to the current political climate. They tout "peace always", offer advanced health care and technology. I've thought long and hard about void left when God does remove the church from earth. The unbelieving, left behind, crowd will likely accept hook, line and sinker whatever the powers that be happen to be peddling

  • I wonder what the author of this video knows about YHWH or Jehovah and why he doesn't mention him. The videos are excellent though, except for this one, but that's understandable once you know a bit more about the bible (not based on confusing theological doctrines).

    To be clear, Jehovah is God's name and his son is called Jesus. It's a very simple fact if you ask me. But there's plenty of proof that the trinity idea (Jesus=God) has its basis in paganism (with Satan behind the scenes).

  • @Uenbg Heb. GOD calls Jesus GOD!Heb 1:6 and when he brought his firstborn Son into the world, God said, “Let all of God’s angels worship him.”7 Regarding the angels, he says,“He sends his angels like the winds, his servants like flames of fire. 8 But to the Son he says, “Your throne, O God, endures forever and ever. You rule with a scepter of justice. 9 You love justice and hate evil.Therefore, O God, your God has anointed you,pouring out the oil of joy on you more than on anyone else.

  • @Uenbg The vinication of Jehovah is the whole theodicy of the -JW- theology. Jesus is some one else they believe, ask questions in your temple have good debate with your elder pastors.

  • I used to be a pe-triber. Read Woolvord. But, I have come to disinvest in the possiblity for entirely different reasons than cited in the video.

  • cont-.....evolution and that they had to be taken away but now that they are gone the rest of you are the chosen ones...You now can evolve freely without the obstacle of Christian disbelief which in the past was holding you all back to become as one. This will then give them permission to kill anyone else that de-evolves back into the old dogma of Christianity because these people would hold back the evolution of mankind into god like beings...which is the root of all of this, the original sin.

  • This is exactly the conclusion that I have come through with my research...I am finding many others that have also come to this discernment. One thing I would add is the lie of the 'law of attraction' and how this will play a role into the end delusion. If we create our reality as they say, then this will be a great explanation as to why the aliens had to take the Christians away..They will explain that Christians were holding back the rest of the world from evolving into the next step of....

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  • What do you mean? You can look into all christian denominations before the mid 19th century and clearly see that there are no indications of people believing in this. Even Martin luther would call this blasphemous. History is history. It's like saying Jesus christ was not a real man. It's all in the history books. Things that are not knowable are pre history, aka, prehistoric. But you knew that... Right?

  • the three main disagreements I.E."pre trib", post trib" and mid trib" are disagreements on the TIMING of the rapture, all AGREE that there will be a rapture, your position that it wasnt taught before the 19th century is simply unable to be substantiated.

  • Rapture.. pffff!!! No Christian before the mid 19th century believed in this theory. man made philosophy!!!! To say that God won't put the people he loves through suffering is an absolute lie!!!! Rapture is never used in the bible. And to try to even make a point you must twist things around. Jesus comes when the world needs him the most at the peak of the antichrist's power.

  • Samerians.Look it up and dont cry.

  • For somebody making an argument for believing in the rapture to speak of facts and the need for facts is more than I can stomach.

  • One of the best videos on this subject ever!

    I applaud you for making this well-researched, meticulous and truthful video! :)

    ALL must watch it!

  • The rapture is simply symbolic of when the 144000 stars on the night sky have been symbolically ´carried off´by the new and symbolically ´unconquearring´Sun as the old Sun had symbolically died and been resurrected within three days.

    There is no ´some kind of monotheistic religion´that is not pagan.

    Satan seems to be symbolic of the night sky itself , the ´temper´of old and things like storms and hurricanes , etc.

  • You are very intelligent...Exactly what i thought 2...Jesus Christ is Lord....I will pray for those left behind..Amen

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  • I consider your other videos about Art and UFO very good.

    Now you come with silly ideas about satan and tribulation ...rapture.... I'm disappointed. :(

  • Hey man, good call.

    Love the vid.

  • This was a pretty interesting video - but I have to say that Revelation's version of events is not any kind of pre-tribulation rapture or alien invasion; it simply shows god plaguing the earth before the 144,000 are taken up.

  • I just wonder why you convinced it is not a post trib rapture? I am asking out of intrest

  • interesting conjectures, chris. per your explanation of the various times of the rapture occurrence.....

    "But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father alone."

    "Behold I come like a thief in the night."

    "But understand this: If the owner of the house had known at what time of night the thief was coming, he would have kept watch and would not have let his house be broken into."

  • There will be many thought to be Christian, who will still be here causing many to deny it was the rapture of God ,,like the Pope for example.

  • Exactly!! thats a critical part of the deception I think.

  • Actually, the two witnesses are supposed to rise from the dead right before the sixth trumpet (rapture) so most will be able to figure out the witnesses were correct. Granted the false messiah will still be trying to decieve those left behind.

  • Sorry, I think that's supposed to be the seventh trumpet. It's been a while since I've read over Revelations.

  • Nope, it's the sixth, seventh is the great tribulation.

  • The new world order and the world government is not even biblical . In Daniel the future vision in the metaphorical statue states that the last kingdom that God will destroy is a divided kingdom . It doesnt say it is divided then it comes together at any time instead that it will always remain divided . We live in divided times and it will be this way all thru tribulation . Not even during the Millennial Reign of Christ will there be a human world government .

  • what do you call a guy forcing everyone to worship him? they give him the power to uh issue marks etc. there's a world govt and religion coming all right

  • The bible doesn't say he''ll force everyone to worship huim rather that people themselves worship him . They will say "who is like the beast?"

  • Religion and Economics have always been 2 great dividing factors in nations but not the primary ones . The American Civil War had a nation of great economic sucess and religous stability and it was one of the most unavoidable wars over division .

  • is the person narrating the video you ? srry, don't have time 2 check your channel and/or investigate lol

  • The wheat and tares will be gathered at the end. Mathh 24:29-31 after the tribulation.... coming of our Lord in the clouds..... gather His elect. 2 Thess 2:3 excludes pre-trib. Prophecy is pattern. We are saved through the fire. He who overcomes and endures will enter in. We need Psalm 91. It is pre-wrath at best... marriage supper, and then return for the millemium

    Scalar weapons will be used to whipe away the NWO opposition, and to discourage other believers, explained by the E.T. delusion

  • Chris, do you have any sources for your claims that the rapture was a belief of he early church? Also, what is your understanding of when the Catholic church took over Christianity?

    The bible says whoever loves his life will lose it, and that we are to take up our own crosses and follow Christ. that means being martyred if necessary, just as the early church was martyred. If Christ didn't return to spare the early church, why would it be different with us?

  • Wow, interesting point of view...

    That's refreshing.

  • The " rapture" is plain nonsense. Infantilism !! Period.

  • Stop with your Hate spewing Philo!!!

  • There is no secret rapture and the left behind theory is not biblical for those who care to read more on this please visit "amazingfacts. org/FreeStuff/BibleStudies/Stu­dyGuides/tabid/105/ctl/ViewMed­ia/mid/453/IID/2-12/LNG/en/7/1­000-Years-of-Peace/SC/R/Defaul­t. aspx" remove the spaces!

    God bless

    PS this is important because people will be deceived when the antichrist comes and states that he will usher in the 1000 yrs of peace on earth. many will believe this is the Christ returned.

  • i agree with that as well...they will think the false peace is the return of Jesus and the millenial reign.

    but it will be the antichrist.

  • Jesus Christ is going to catch us up to be with Him for the marriage, not on this earth. That's not even Biblical stating that the Antichrist will usher a 1000 yrs peace on earth. Where did you get that one??? Nowhere does God say His believers are destined for wrath judgments. The Tribulation are wrath judgments.

  • The finishing scripture where i'm convinced it's pre-trib rapture.

    Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me. In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also (Jn. 14:1-3)

  • 1 Cor 15:52 is not the judgment trumpets. It more closely resembles Exodus 19:16-19 when Moses led the people to meet God.

    The trumpets in Rev 8-11 are not identical with the rapture trumpet. There is no mention of judgment. God's plan for Israel and the church are separate. The trump in 1 Cor 15:52 is the end of the church age. Christ himself comes to get us. In the latter he sends His angels to gather the tribulation saints.

  • from what i can tell at the moment, the rapture is at the seventh, and final trumpet, which would technically be post-trib, and pre-wrath of God.

    i think it is the 7th trump because it says very clearly "AT THE LAST TRUMP."

    that ushers in the day of the lord, and then God's wrath is poured out after the church is out of the way...perhaps then there is the marriage supper...and after that the armies return with Christ for the battle of armageddon.

  • this ET thing is getting out of hand.

    this could potentially fall under "signs and wonders."

    im not sure where else the Bible mentions such an event.

    they may say Jesus is an alien, and the earth needs to unite to counter the extraterrestrial threat.

  • Since you have kept my command to endure patiently, I will also keep you from the hour of trial that is going to come upon the whole world to test those who live on the earth.

    Rv 3:10 wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead—Jesus, who rescues us from the coming wrath. (1 Th 1:10)

    For God did not appoint us to suffer wrath but to receive salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ. (1 Th 5:9)

    According to these scriptures where suppose to look to Jesus not the Tribulation.

  • Therefore keep watch, because you do not know on what day your Lord will come. (Mat 24:42)

    For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night (1 Thess. 5:2)

    According to these scriptures you don't know. Paul taught all generations to look towards Jesus. Rm 13:11; 1 Cor 6:14; 10:11; 16:22; Phil 3:20, 21; 1 Tim 6:14; Titus 2:13

  • yes, the last vestiges of the philadelphia church.

    we are almost entirely into the laodicean church right now.

    the hour of temptation is the hour of the beast (reign as kings one hour with the beast).

    horus, hora, the hour. the last hour. 11:00 to12:00, which is when Jesus returns.

    "are there not twelve hours in the day?"

    yes, and the day is expired. night approacheth. we are almost at 11 right now.

  • you are correct, we are going to be IN the tribulation, looking for Jesus.

    Paul also says "you brethren are not in darkness that that day should overtake you as a thief."

    we will know from Bible prophecy.

  • KWTR1984-- I have been saying the same thing for the past 2 years. I actually call it "The Alien Gospel." I agree 100%. I'm also glad you dispelled the idea that the pre-trib rapture was never discussed by the Church Fathers.

    And I like to call myself "Pre-Great Trib." lol. God bless.

  • And who are the army of saints that accompany Him at His Second Coming?

    Who are those at the Bema Judgement Seat and after at the Marriage Supper of the Lamb? Who will repopulate the Millenial Kingdom...the mortal people and for 1,000 years? Certainly not the goats. :/ The Day of the Lord will not come until there is a big falling away and the AntiChrist will be revealed. How will he be revealed? And what makes him to be revealed? The Day of the Lord is the time of Jacobs' Trouble.

  • I don't see how what you are writing disagrees with my point. All I was saying is I agree with the vid. But I do believe the raptured saints, those alive and dead in Christ will be judged at the Bema Seat and will reign with Christ in the Millenial Kingdom. Those who are saints during the 70th week will also reign in the MK. As for the "revealing" that is much harder for me to explain on here but I think it's important to remember that he is one "who WAS, is not and is to come." God bless.

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  • there is no rapture! 2 Thes2:3 " let no man decive you buy any means:for that day (second coming) shall not come except there come a falling away first,and that man of sin be revealed.the son of perdition (antichrist aka satan).when Jesus comes we will be given a spirit body.1 Cor 15:42-54. so if your in the flesh its not Jesus !!!

  • And who pray tell are the saints who suddenly appear in Heaven at the 6th Seal?

  • and can you tell me what bible you use if it says Saints come on the 6th seal? read Matt.24 you'll see we (Christians) will be delivered up,the abomination of desolation (antichrist) stands in the Holy place and for the ELECT"S sake the day are shortened (the elect are STILL THERE !!!!!) then the great sign's of HIS coming start.but Yashua don't come till the 7th seal is broke. satan comes at the 6th vial,seal and trump (666) Yashua the 7th of each.you don't want to be taken out of season!!

  • This is very hard to explain in such small space but I believe the Elect are all who believe on Christ Jesus as Savior, whether Gentile, Jew or pre or during the 70th week. There will be people who are saved during the 70th week. There are going to be saints who die during it. No question. But there were also be saints raptured before the day of The Lord. And the easiest marker for that Day is Joel 2:31 and Acts 2:20. That event only occurs ONCE in the Bible and it's at the 6th seal.

  • And please note, as the video says, it is debatable! Please, please, please do not get upset over my disagreement. I think it's GREAT to exchange different viewpoints and ideas on this, even if we disagree passionately. So please take no offense to my comments at all. I am speaking in a spirit of compassion and fellowship. And with regard to deception in Matt 24: I believe that is describing the first seal of Revelation, which would be prior to the Day of The Lord and thus all Elect are here.

  • Again, we know there will be people saved during the 70th week. This is why we have the 2 witnesses. We also have the 144,000. We also have angels who will travel the world witnessing. So the elect will definitely be there when the Anticrhist comes and the days are shorted. Ezekiel 36 makes the end times Israel remnant very clear. And regarding the abomination, remember the 70th weeks prophecy is really about the Jews and the Holy City. So messianic Jews will be persecuted with gentile saints.

  • It's an interesting theory, thanks for sharing your video.

  • Weird theory. But it is interesting. I can see the end is sometime soon. How much longer can Christianity endure? Nobody acts like Christ anymore.

  • Just to spice it. Imagine ppl who live in the mountains without electricity, tv, radio, cell, computer...to cut the crap...no technologies at all, just them and sheep's and nature living as their families before thousands yrs ago. They don't care about stuff happening in lower lands and they will not care about when it happen it will be still them and sheep's and nature. Period.

  • There is no lie that didn't came from some truth at some point in time. Means, every lie has in the core the TRUTH, pure...unaltered...just, it's so hard to extract it.

  • I'm not a Christian, but I'm 100% convinced that you're right about this being the way that the NWO will be presented: ET's saving us from ourselves. We're being rapidly prepared for this event. If you watch saturday morning cartoons these days, you'll see literally HUNDREDS of ET references in any given hour. Frankly, I don't see what they're waiting for. Already it's difficult for me to conceive there being a significant resistance, even if this event happened tomorrow.

  • there will be an attempt at a nwo,but it will fail (because of war) and thats when satan comes playing the savior of mankind.he will offer to rapture people away thats why the false theory exist.

  • Although I don't know if the Rapture...the Great Snatch, the BrideGroom coming for His Bride-->the Church...will occur before or after the set up of the NWO. It it does occur before the set up..this event and its resulting aftermaths will exasperate already the staged economic crises, resulting social and political aftermaths and quickly lead and accerelate towards

    wolrd system collapse and restoration into the NWO. And with Martial laws, Fema camps and people reductions.

  • When the Rapture does occur and Jesus the Bride Groom comes for His Bride and like as a thief and unexpectdely and before the 7 year Tribulation Period, another event will occur that will be part of the big lie. And to explain away the millions of people who have vanished and those who have resurrected and vanished too. Most likely have to do with some kind of Alien-UFO disclosures and deceptions. Perhaps a staged invasion

    by the fallen angels as both good aliens and as the bad aliens.

  • What would convince a lot of people of deceit and false explanation for the Rapture? Most likely, not just UFO disclosures but the appearance of aliens and ships brought about by the technolgies of the fallen angels and their demonic ports to our world like HAARP and Project Blue Beam. Holographic A.I. Bots of good aliens, bad aliens, and even rescued people who were abducted. And the physical manifestations of their ships, advanced sciences, and more interdimensional technolgies and devices.

  • @Raverlutionary and now 1 yr later>>> 120 airforce officers admit E.T.'s exsistance.

    The U.N. assigns an E.T. ambassador. The Pope says there are E.T.'s and says we will make contact soon and we must share our faith of "jesus" with them. (his jesus is different than my Jesus) AND...there is to be some big announcement about E.T.'s on Oct 13th?  Are we in a movie?

  • Very interesting theory.

  • Chris I'm sorry but please read Matthew 24:37-42

    There will be no rapture. Jesus puts it very clear that the whole Christian rapture is a lie.

  • Could you elaborate please? I'm not sure how from the verses provided, you gathered it means there will be no rapture.

  • thats what I was thinking, those suggest there will be a rapture.

  • I'm implying that if there is a rapture then it will be the wicked removed from the earth rather than Christians. Jesus will not return twice he will return once and only once and that's to set up his new church on earth. The generalized idea of the rapture is that Christians will be removed from the earth and that's just not going to happen. There's nothing biblical about it. And being the truth seeker I am I am very cautious of these so called visions people have had over the ages.

  • sorry bro, there is no rapture.

  • Agreed. The rapture theory is big lie.

  • you know it.

  • Great vid Chris! I've always thought that aliens were demons all along, sent here specifically to deceive and cause great confusion.

    As far as the rapture goes, I can't say I'm quite sure when it could occur. All I know is that it will occur around the tribulation period, whether it is pre, mid, or post trib. I honestly believe it was not meant for us to COMPLETELY understand yet. Interesting theory.

  • have you seen matrix? Agent Smith thought he was gonna win until the very last scene and so will Satan think :P

  • If Jesus will rule for a thousand years, where you guys getting these mad theories. Edom is toast aka revelation 2.9 and everything will be back in it's real order.

    Than after a thousand years it's gog and magogs turn.

  • Revelation 20:4

    were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years

    If you think your holier than the prophets who all had to suffer and escape tribulation, you may be sadly mistaken.

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  • interesting theory...it would allow the catholics and muslims to unite..under the Mahdi and Isa.

  • This is in reference to your statement about Daniel sealing up his prophecies: Doesn't the Bible, in Revelation, also mention there will be Seven Thunders, and similarly John is asked not to write that part down?

  • 2Pe 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a THIEF IN THE NIGHT; in the which THE HEAVENS SHALL PASS AWAY WITH A GREAT NOISE, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein SHALL BE BURNED UP.

    This is no "secret rapture" He's coming once and thats it. The earth will be destroyed at the 2nd coming. (Jer 4:23-27; Isa 24:1-6 Jer 25:31-33)

    It says ALL the wicked shall be dung upon the ground. The earth will be as it says, "desolate". An abyss.

  • Im sure this is what the Israelites said about a two stage coming of the messiah the first time I.E first as a suffering servant second as King

  • Why couldn't these entities take physical bodies? Didn't they do that in Genesis?

  • @utukkuxul clones

  • Yeah. They thought that His first coming would be His only coming and that it would be His coming of Wrath as a King. They confused the prophecies, even the apostles were confused about this.

    If they were confused, how much more, people in our time. But now its backwards, some think Christ will touch the earth in His 2nd coming when It specifically says in 1Thes 4:15-17 that we ALL will meet Him in the air.

    He's not touching foot on earth the second time like He did the first coming. :>

  • I do agree with some of what you say and share. However, at Christs' Second coming He will be accompanied with all of His Church saints and His feet will touch the Mount of Olives. Zech 14:3-4, Act 1:9-11, Acts 1:4-12 Also the term 'thief' is used in the context of suddenly, abrupt, and also unexpectedly. This is true when the world is not destroyed but purged and transformed into a New Heaven and New Earth by God the Father. As well as for the event of the Great Snatch or Harpazo.

  • You better re-read your bible or atleast buy a better Bible translation like authorized

    KJV 1611

    And his feet shall stand in that day on the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall split in the middle thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.

    Zechariah 14:4

  • I think you and powermousey misunderstood what I meant.

    Yes Jesus will be upon the earth but not at His 2nd coming. Why won't He be? The Bible says we shall meet Him IN the air. We will be up in Heaven at this time for 1000 years.

    It is AFTER the 1000 years, when New Jerusalem (heaven) will descend down to earth and Jesus will touch foot on the mount of Olives. This is what I meant, not that Jesus would never touch.

    Also, I do read the Authorized version of the Bible (KJV). ; >

  • i have to admit that that's a pretty damn good theory

  • excellent work on the video...hope to see a much longer production soon, i always find the videos so short. thanks for the posting.

  • If Satan is so "great" at Bible prophecies, then how come he couldn't predict Yeshua's death on the cross? The whole time the Most High was using Satan and he never knew it until Christ's resurrection. Shalom

    The alien deception is very probable if you read Revelation 16:13-14. BTW, I'm post-trib...

    Revelation 1:9 "I John, who also am your brother, and companion in tribulation..."

  • You are right on with this video.

    TRUTH

  • I've been saying the same for years. You've said it much better, here. Faved!

  • Thess 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout , with the voice of the archangel, and with the TRUMP of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

    trump isn't the same thing as trumpet

    Notice how many of the new versions change TRUMP into TRUMPET, yet they are DIFFERENT.

  • To hier0phant: The word used in the greek for "trump" in the KJV actually means trumpet.

    salpigx is the word used. That means trumpet.

  • Rest easy that we will be 'raptured' at Christ's Second Coming (those of us who are alive & remain through the tribulation!) AFTER the dead in Christ have been raised.

    THAT is VERY clear in 1 Thess 4 starting at verse 15! THIS is how we know WHEN the REAL rapture takes place so we will not be deceived when satan tries to trick everyone into believing the anti-christ is really Jesus. If we are NOT gathered up after the dead have been raised & EVERYone does not see the 2nd coming? It's not HIM!

  • I read a really good article called aliens or et's flee in the name of jesus christ. I'm not sure if thats exactly the name or not but it was really awesome. I agree that et's are actually interdemensional.

  • spectacular

    The thing i can say now is that only time will tell. As we move closer each day to zero hour.

  • That's an interesting theory. I think that it's possible.

  • Chris you always do such good work and you haven't let me down with this one! Thanks for all the hard work you do.