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  • im sorry, i do alot of training in self defense, not just sport fighting, and i really think you should venture out and see what else is out there. not everything works on different people, but there are somethings that will have a better chance of working. some people r strong, short, tall, qucker, it changes everything, what you tought here isnt going to work well for anyone, im sorry, but i know this through trial and error in realistic training.

  • your vid on never punching in a street fight is also a bit off. you can still hurt yourself very easily using a palm strike, just in different areas. there are many advantages to palm strikes though, most of the time less blood, and for legal reasons. you dont want to cut open a person with hiv or hep c then catch his tooth with your knuckle. palm striking on camera while being defensive would go better in court to if it ever did.

  • i dont mean to be rude, but i came across this video in a search for looking for additional info on sambo grappling defense. i take karate, sambo, and ninjitsu at atc in my city. Im not anywhere close to my shihan, but what your teaching in your videos doesnt have much effectivness behind it. i dont know whot tought you your self defense but its ridiculous. this isnt teaching anyone anything. plus the only way to do it is to try and test it.

  • We think one should learn judo, Gracie jiu-jitsu, or even wrestling to handle this situation.

    Check out our videos and see how we get out of this position.

  • great escape. I'd hit him in the groin first though, then go for the eagle claw

  • @JamesDBlanc hahahaha

  • it hurts like hell some guy did it to me 1ce at school

  • i've only wrestled in school and this is helpful. i did learn something from a filpino friend of mine, if i grab your head and pull it down and start biting on your cheek or neck you will get off me. he called it Kino mutai (or kina mutai) is a specialized sub-section of some Filipino martial arts that emphasizes biting and also covers eye-gouging. after all we are talking street fighting and yes you are exposed to the blood but what choice do you have. just my two cents

  • I lost because the guy had a winter jacket on...

  • how bout hip escape??

  • @xxnwaxx1 - Not sure what you're referring to. Can you explain more? There are several techniques for getting out of this type of ground fighting self defense maneuver. Feel free to offer your own grappling techniques.

    Thanks!

  • @cqctraining Even though your technique is good and works, there are alternatives. What you do is hook your foot to the guy on top and buck up with you hip. Submissions 101 has very good videos. Here they explain one variation of the mount escape. /watch?v=2sH7fF_Rcss&feature=r­elated

  • @cqctraining He is referring to a technique in wich you take your hips and move them out to the side very quickly, messege me and il send you a video demonstrating, however in this situation it wouldnt work and could even give the opponent your back. Sources: Jean-Jacques Machado Brazillian Jiu-Jitsu practitioner under Matt Baker.

  • @xxnwaxx1 It wouldn't work, his knees are above your hips therefore limiting your movement.

  • @xxnwaxx1 Or the standard trap and roll upa escape. Far more effective than this silly technique.

  • doesn't hurt. especially doesn't under adrenalin. Gracie Mount defense is the best! And I'm saying this as a gracie hater.

  • @cqctraining i like this techique also if they are to high on your chest to roll in that direction 'eagle claw' and keep a bent arm, with your right arm reach across and grab your left wrist, then hook outside his leg with your right leg and roll (pulling with eagle claw right arm and hip thrust) then you can counter and roll in the opposite direction

  • Not a bad move... I would do an explosive hip thrust as I do this move. Just for a bit of extra power. Good Stuff. Train Hard Fight Easy my friend.

  • @Sharkman3472 - You're absolutely right! The hip thrust is a perfect addition. Probably even a necessity with a more unwilling "attacker". ;-)

    Thanks for adding your comment!  Feel free to add any time!

    ~ Jeff

  • @cqctraining, Maybe if you garbed the hip, or waist line of the attacker. You would have more control and it would be easier to get to.

    Just a second option you might think about drilling*

  • That grab hurts, but not in a real fight. If you wanna get out. Cover your face first. ellebow his groin and jump up with your hips.

  • cant he just hit u in the face

  • I tried to grab the skin on my side but I dont have enough to grab??? Guess I am safe against that attack XD

  • @GhostOkon - hey...no bragging about 3% body fat! ;-)

    Keep up the training G.O.!

  • yeah the groin is viable ,but with certain pants you cant really get the squeeze to get a reaction .the side squeeze is useless on anyone that's in an adrenaline state .If youve had at least one real fight you'd know this .I broke my floating rib doing boxing drills at class and didn't feel it till I left 2 hrs later.

  • @tattooDmama80 - the groin will always be a debated topic but definitely much different than a rib shot. Don't necessarily agree with you about the lack of pain in an adrenalized state. I've even seen a pinch on the inside of the thigh work in a real street fight.

    Appreciate your perspective TattooDmama80 and your input is always welcome on any of the videos. This is an open and professional forum for feedback on self defense. ;-)

    ~ Jeff

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  • @L1ONFIRE - Great point.

    There are no rules in a street fight and sometimes you gotta fight dirty. Unfortunately, we're programmed to fight clean and it's hard to break those habits.

    We don't think about the nut shot, pinching, biting, or other grappling techniques outside of common ground fighting techniques.

    At the end of a real street fight, where your life is on the line, no one cares how you "won". All that matters is that you're there to kiss your wife & kids goodnight.

    Thanks!

  • @L1ONFIRE - Very true. Thanks for sharing in the conversation L1onfire!

  • NUT SHOT? DIRTY!!!

  • You know, there are very developed and tested techniques for getting out of mount. This is definitely NOT one of them. Grabbing the hand my hurt, but it's probably going to get you hit, not out of the mount. If you want to learn ground fighting, watch some BJJ or MMA videos and practice, preferably with someone that knows what they are doing. This stuff will not be very effective in combat and probably has given a lot of people a false sense of confidence.

  • ... so out of shape from drug abuse that they gas-out very quickly. Remember what this man is sharing-For Free. I'm getting his DVD for my wife and daughter. If you're more advanced, I recommend Bas Ruttens Big 8-part DVD or Renzo's book on mastering jiu jitsu. You just represent the arts poorly when you talk this kind of crap. Seriously.

  • Guys,

    1. calling this guy an idiot is just bad form. He has a hell of a lot of experience training people.

    2. this is self defense for the common man.

    I've been studying Martial Arts most of my life, BJJ for the past 3 1/2 to 4 years. He is not talking about Bas Rutten or Renzo Gracie attacking you. He's talking about a desperate nut-job. My good friend is a s.w.a.t. cop and he constantly tells me about how most thugs can't fight on the ground AT ALL. They freeze. Also, most of them are..

  • Alright if your in a street fight and you try this your gonna get knocked the hell out , this guys an idiot first of all you DEFINITLY do not wanna cover up you face the way he is and sedondly if the guy on top knows what he's doing and you give hom an arm like that your done

  • I give this tequenick 3 to 5 points!!!

  • I've used it real life and it works just as well on the ground as it does in close quarters grappling while standing. Try it on yourself and you'll see.

    Don't be too quick to judge without actually training with it. Too many "armchair street fighters".

  • This is SO FUNNY!! I really want to see that work in real life. Once the fella on top feels pain, he is gonna smash you really bad. AND watch HOW OPEN his face was when he went for the grab...LOL

  • Good but, he forgot to hook his right leg with his left foot before rolling to keep him from blocking the roll by posting his right leg out wide.

  • Hahaha I'm so gonna use this in a fight :D Since I have sharp nails, ITS GONNA HURT FOR YOU! XD

  • this is bullshit

  • doesnt hurt me

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