Straw Cutting demo Haidong Gumdo 2004-Part One

[szotykawork]

Who is this master? Anybody knows his name?

Please put his name in to the description, he deserved that!

[yourlitlesister]

just out of curriosity, and i dont mean to offend anybody by this as i just dont personally know, they call this straw cutting, is this anything similar to tatami in japanese martial arts, one more thing, this straw, if it isnt similar to tatami, does it have a similar consistency to flesh?

[enushisama]

武藝圖譜通志Muye Dobo Tongji (1790) : Comprehensive Illustrated Manual of Martial Arts in Korea .

[It is an official document at a Korean Dynasty, written by The Korean King order in the 18th century]

國練兵之制三軍練于郊，衛士練于禁苑，其禁苑練兵盛自 光廟朝，然止弓矢一技而已如槍劍法技，既未之聞焉，

Archery was the only martial art that had been practiced by Korean soldiers. They have no skills of sword or spear fighting (in the 17th century ! ).

購得戚繼光紀效新書遣訓局郎韓嶠遍質東來將士

Therefore, Koreans began learning sword skills and others from Chinese .

[UTsquid]

... I expect to continue learning as much from my japanese (aikido) brothers as I have learned from my méxican (box), korean(tae kwon do) & chinese (kung-fu/chi-na) brothers. P.L.U.R. (Peace Love Union and Respect) to all my martial artists brothers from Mexico.

[UTsquid]

...found their own way achieving it. Many people would NEVER try some of the throws shown on a Judo match on a real fight, because they leave you so obviously exposed to an experienced opponent if you miss the angle for a bit. But they will prove useful should the right opportunity arrive; we should not dissmiss the obvious practical applications of the fine skill displayed by this champion...

[UTsquid]

After practicing Tae kwon do for three and fraction years I realized I wanted something more than a sport yet the phylosophy, muscular memory and technique remains. It's just another tool for the martial artis to use. The same remains valid for any other martial art you practice. Fill your cup then empty your cup.

Personally I prefer the aikido & kendo approach than haidong gumdo. However adding these finesse and precision to your arsenal cannot hurt and these Korean brothers have have ...

[UTsquid]

... segregation & being sectarian is a thing of the past, the way to empower people is through cultural sharing and martial arts allows us to do so. We should be grateful to whatever god each one prays to for being born at this age in wich it is possible for the regular guy to enjoy this. There's so much physlosophy, so many techniques, yet so short our life to be able to learn all within our hearts desire. The only limit is how much knowledge can our cup hold, how much time can we we dedicate..

[UTsquid]

... criticise this video, you can't deny he is a warrior in temperance, perseverance & concentration, [Are you?]{if so: Do you need to be so unpolite} I practiced tae-kwon-do when young for three years it was a beautiful and strengthening experience. But then i learned there's something more, and found a complete martial art like wing chun then I knew there's chi-na, I'm starting my aikido lessons (expect to be able to master aikido sword) yet there's more on the road to learn...

[UTsquid]

... How much do you want to expose yourself while doing these wide devastating cuts?!! The answer lies within self experience & mastery of your mental sword, should you decide to use such fine skill. The martial artist in this video is not trying to fool anybody. There's strength, rhythm, precision and concentration on every cut made by this martial artist, his skill is hard to match and replicate, he's top of his art no doubt about that. Doesn't matter how many angry-self-immolating people ...

[UTsquid]

...ation ation. If you compare to practicing Tae-kwon-do techniques to develop faster, stronger kicking it is possible to use Haidong Gumdo; IF and only IF; combined with a COMPLETE martial art like kendo, kung-fu swordfight (twin-butterfly-knives, tai-ji sword, saber, longsword, broadword), escrima (complete traditional escrima) & so many other complete martial arts that include swordfight within it's mastery. It can help you develop devastating precise & focused cuts. The question here is: ...

[UTsquid]

You have to see both the ups and downs of this martial art it's the same way as competition/exhibition-tae-kwo­n-do (note-how-I-put-all-that-in-a-­single-word-*wink) vs. kung-fu (complete kung-fu (I mean the WHOLE kung-fu package: qui-gong cultivation, body fitnes & conditioning, a plethora of weapons, fighting from a chair, or floor seated position, locks and counterlocks, ground fighting, etc.) Haidong Gumdo AS PORTRAYED in this COMPETITION is not what you would use in a real-life combat situ...

[arata9]

Foolish South Korean. Thief South Korean. Deceitful Korea.

[enushisama]

You should use true Korean traditional sword, without using Japanese sword.

[enushisama]

watch?v=iFBo-Zs_Dp8

[shimadori1]

笑ったｗ

[BuffonMusa]

When Koreans copy Japanese martial arts, they always add strange movement that don't have any advantage in battle.

Like dancing.

[natsfan44]

@BuffonMusa Say that to a Kumdo Master and he'll dance your head off.

[centraltheorem2076]

Please stop mimicking Japanese if you are proud of your own country's culture. Due to a part of Koreans like you, all Koreans are fooled by Japanese.

[natsfan44]

@centraltheorem2076 Again? What is with you fucker? Have you ever seen Iaido or Battojutsu? You ignorant shit, educate yourself before letting the entire internet know how much of a buffoon you are. Kumdo looks absolutely nothing like any Japanese martial art, and if you had eyes and a quarter of a functioning ape brain you could figure that out. By the way, I'm Japanese, so you can go fuck yourself. Asians accept the subtle differences in each of our cultures. Gaijin- back the fuck off.

[centraltheorem2076]

@natsfan44 Why can't Korean people be proud of their own original and beautiful cultures. I cannot find any originality in this video. They are perfect Japanese. Kumdo was created by copying kendo. Don't you know that? Koreans people are looked down by Japanese because Koreans mimick Japanese in spite that they dislike Japan.

[Xiox047]

@centraltheorem2076 Um... I'm sorry to disappoint you... but this is Haidong Kumdo, the original style from Korea. That is a haidongkum, not a katana... and its been around since before the japanese even created the katana.

[centraltheorem2076]

@Xiox047 Unfortunately, Haidong was created recently by copying kendo. You don' know that? Have you read Muye Dobo Tongji? The old record says that archery is the only martial art practiced by Korean soldiers. There has been no sword art in Korea. Also, Korean traditional swords are straight and double-edged like Chinese ones. The swords that the people in this video have are samurai swords. Korean traditional curvature sword don't look like samurai sword. You should not tell untruth.

[Xiox047]

@centraltheorem2076

The hell you talking about? I do Japanese style kendo as well as Korean style so its gonna be pretty hard to get me butthurt, just warning.. I wear a Hakama for when I do kendo, and you do realize that Korea's been fighting wars before Japan was even colonized... And you do realize that swords change with the eras... for example, the Japanese tsurugi used to be a curved double edged sword. Also if your going for that Korean pride thing, no go i dont give a shit about blood.

[Xiox047]

@centraltheorem2076 also I'm not sure how much you actually know about kendo and kumdo, but theres a lot of forms in his demonstration that the Japanese don't use. Originating from Korea's oldest recorded sword Bungookgumbup (yea that sounds messed up in english..)

[centraltheorem2076]

@Xiox047 Have you read Muye Dobo Tongji describing about Bungook? If you read the book, you can understand that Bungook and Haidong are not historical existences. But we Japanese don't much care about that if you Koreans respect our long effort in making sword art. Why Koreans wear hakama, form kendo styles, and even use samurai swords in spite that they dislike Japan? This is why Koreans are not respected by Japanese.

[centraltheorem2076]

Why does he use samurai sword?

[723lion]

sorry what's so hard about it?

[1bol1]

is Haidong kumdo and haedong thesame, or what's the different?

[zorzevic]

awesome skill

[princze89]

0:36 is a way to cut yourself!

However, hes fast!

[TheWitnesserer]

What did the Japanese ever do to you?

[kenpachi316]

an amazing video. to say the least.

[nukitsuke88]

swords you see in these Haedong demonstrations are called sam-gak-do (삼각도) or triangular swords. They are literally triangular in shape, and very fragile structurally and hence unfit for real combat. They are only good for Haedong demonstrations.

[kenpachi316]

hira zukuri

[James6630]

Wow! I watched the vid and I was like, where are the cuts? HIs blade literally just passed right through. That's cool.

[Jeeperrandy]

I thought the exact same thing.

Really amazing.

[jackchn]

Anyone knows what is the music in the background? Thanks

[DanielWebsterCollege]

I think the Japanese are jealous

[cow360]

true that

[Therockindude13]

wow this really looked like anime from when you slash the sword and it just falls all of a sudden.

[noisyman56]

This event is the fake which imitated a Japanese sword.

A Japanese sword is a Japanese soul.

>Dear Korean

Please do not steal Japanese culture & soul.

日本の魂である日本刀をさも韓国文化のように振舞うのはやめてい­ただきたい

武道は見せ物ではない彼らはただ切っているだけ

This　is Japanese 居合

[Teh1show]

wow you try really hard to put these comments on every kumdo video you see? wow...

[confires]

well even though it is japaneese other countrys are free to pracice it...

[johnyoo71]

@confires hey! why don't u do some study before opening ur mouth!!! Japanese???? wot a crap!!!! we're the one to introduce to jap land.

[confires]

@johnyoo71 hey! why don't u stfu dickface

[leejun1968]

I really think you need to do your research before you claim what you say.. it only make you sound stupid.. sorry if I offended you. i think once you actually read the right history of this art, you might think differently...Just a thought..

[leejun1968]

Noisyman56, I feel sorry for you.. You were always tought the wrong things in life.. it makes me sad.. do your homework.. just a thought!

[kiba2001]

The Japanese have a sword style and its respectable, but it is completely diferent from the Korean one.

Besides the blades are similar but not equal to the japanese ones. The Jingum is thicker than a Katana, the Jingum is straighter than a Katana.

[Bear1018]

Jingum is as you say, thicker then a Katana, usualy does not have blood grooves either. As for it being straighter, that's not quite true. Katana's come in different shapes depending on the art. Shinto kanata's are used primarity for cutting and not good at taking hits ... so they are more curved. Some arts are more of brute force, so they are thicker and straighter. Now a days though, its all thin and curved since its mostly to cut tatami mats or bamboo =/

[MellifluousChime]

jin-gum jsut means it has a live blade... the opposite of that is ga-gum which doesnt have a live blade

[MoooMon]

It does require a high amount of skill ...I remember when my master brought me with him to a demo ...lol it was so cool watching ppl cut it and it still stood up

[Master293]

At 1:02 it looks like he almost hit the person running behind him.

[Jbigalds]

goddamn i wish i could do that

[Master293]

This is amazing. I wish I could cut like that.

[mitjade]

Impressive. High skilled guys. Keep the good work on.

[Skidder007]

Yes...Cutting straw like this requires a very precise cut. Most people find it difficult to do it as easily as the Master in the demo. You must be very skilled. Can you post a video of yourself cutting just straw?

[raizuna]

sarcasm detected. Lol... well jee sorry for it looking so easy.. and anyways.. i dont post videos i only watch and comment if it interests me.. 'twas but a simple question of curiosity and my own ignorant opinion... tell me where im wrong just dont be an ass ok?

[Skidder007]

Fair enough. Most people when first cutting straw chop at it instead of slicing it. While it might seem a subtle difference, a soft target exposes poor technique versus a hard target where you may be able to "muscle" through it.

[Skidder007]

For straw to be cut and stand still, as in the demo, the cuts must be absolutely perfect. On the video, the Master is performing a plethora of perfect cuts back to back to back. In fact almost every single one is perfect. The fact that he makes it look effortless compounds the impressiveness.

[4242263]

@Skidder007 It`s not an art he is just a dancing clown

I leaned kendo for most of my life and this is bull shit anyone can do what he did on thins shit and while fighting you don`t spinning around the enemy and also your enemy will not wait for you until you spinnin around and dancing to kill them or hurt them.

[SheenaMalfoy]

@4242263 You do realize there is a measure of showmanship in cutting right? There wouldn't be nearly as many "Pointless" spins against a real enemy. Also, gumdo is meant to be one vs many, so the spins would be the person cutting down imaginary opponents (hard to cut straw when you're surrounded by it, after all)

Also, if you think it's so easy, please show us all a video of you doing it better. As stated above, cutting soft targets requires near-perfect technique, so good luck.

[4242263]

@SheenaMalfoy DO you know anything about martial arts?

DO you think dancing with swords with music helps fighting?

Have you seen a real samurai sword before? as you see in that video the sword is very sharp, means you can cut things VERY EASILY any dumb ass can cut bamboo sticks and dancing around with that sword. Have you ever seen JAPANESE PEOPLE with samurai swords before ? Do they dance? Do they jump or anything before they cut stuffs? NO These movements in this video are useless

[SheenaMalfoy]

@4242263 Question 1: yes, I'm in three

Question 2: no. that's what I meant about the showmanship part. this is a demonstration of technique, not a sparring match. there would be no "dancing" in a sparring match.

Question 3: yes, and held one too, though I've never cut with it.

For the rest, you can flame me all you want, and believe what you want, but I'll be ignoring you from now on, because I clearly can't get my point across over the internet.

[4242263]

@SheenaMalfoy Ive practice Kendo and Iaidou for most of my life. I understand why these movements are useless. Don`t just tell me like you know what you are talking about with your own knowledge. GO study and know what you are talking about before you say anything. This video is very offensive to all Japanese swords masters. As you see in this video they have no respect what so ever to the swords techniques and also I want to tell you that Korea Kumdo is copied from JAPANESE KENDO.

[Liquidazot]

@4242263 hahaha greate congratulations, you discover USA in the can. Searching things by your specifick thinking. I can tell you are not practing KENDO, becouse you are not Japanese living in Japan. So you just cant do it. Better find other name for your swordmanship or this what you are training.

[4242263]

@Liquidazot I am Japanese that`s why I`m saying lol

I used to live in Wakayama.. it`s located next to Osaka... You think I would make a debate without knowing anything lol....HAHAHA No

I know lot more than you do..... because it`s my own culture.

and I`m also half Korean. I speak both languages fluently.

I am lot smarter than you are... No offence.

If you would like to make a debate do some research before you say anything.

and If you don`t believe any of informations I gave you like

[4242263]

Respond to this video... and please explain me why those movements are useful to actual fighting if you actually know about sword fight. I would love to hear that

[xXSkuraiXx]

@4242263 That's Kendo. Kendo is a 1 on 1 duel. No, you would not spin around and "dance" when facing one opponent. However, Haidong Gumdo was designed for battlefield combat. When up against multiple armed infantry I imagine wide circular motions would be quite useful. You can't always just take what you've trained in and project it into other arts because they're somewhat similar. The two arts have roughly the same weapon but a totally different mindset.

[r0undst0ne]

@4242263 shut the fuck up people that dont train this matial art can say enything about this

[martaunforgiven]

@4242263 are you conscious that haedong gumdo is not like a bullshit of "combat preparation", it's more that fighting, its ART. That's why there only are haedong demonstrations nor fights.

Don't think you understand this thinking that simply.

[raizuna]

Was that only straw?... aren't they supposed to wrap the straw around a stick of bamboo to simulate flesh and bone... straw is too easy to cut on its own

[ivan3987]

Skindder007 is right I've cutted straw myself and belive me its not as easy as it seems, and besides raizuna they don't wrap straw arround bamboo they wrap tatami it ain't the same.

[ramzahnY]

Normally this straw is soaked for a time in water.

In the end those bales of soggy straw are supposed to have cutting properties similar to the human body.

(i don't know if that's the case here)

[MellifluousChime]

done here as well