@Heavensway1 you're saying isha alleihisalaam (jesus peace be upon him) is seated next to the right hand of the father AND that he is god? I thought you Christians believed in 1 god just like we muslims do.
Jesus the Christ died on a cross, he was buried and on the third day he rose again. he then ascended to heaven that's when he sent the Holy Spirit (the other comforter) To be with us Until Jesus the Christ returns. Muhammed remains dead, Jesus is alive and is seated at the right hand of the Father and will come again to judge the living and the dead (including Muhammed). Even the quran doesn't say Muhammed is coming back to judge. Only God can judge......so who is Jesus....GOD
It was greatness of Jesus Christ that though he was God he never demanded worship while he was on earth from man. The person who demands respect is not a true person does not anyone man conscience say? We have to worship him as God because he deserves it being born of a virgin Mary without human union and died in this flesh and rose again and is alive. The fool does not understand so deep things of God.
Zakir Naik is a greatest fool and the Christians here asking him who is a foolish muslim are also fools because one cannot interpret or understand Jesus without the Holy Spirit. He is becoming smart in quoting long and long scriptures without seeing and speaking hastily does not mean that his. He twists scripture as he wishes proof is he says that Holy Spirit is Mohammed now tell him where Jesus says that Holy Spirit is Mohammed? Nonsense.
@AHMED7864LYF This is the TRUTH. quran demands muslims to kill.Mohammed said, “Whoever changes his Islamic religion, kill him.” (Hadith Al Buhkari vol. 9:57). You must be ignorant to have faith in a religion and a man that teaches to kill in the name of GOD(ALLAH).muhamad's way was and still is"ISLEM TESLIM."By the Sword. Read sura 9:29 “Slay the idolators [non-Muslims] wherever ye find them, Muslim’s make every effort to suppress any who claim to follow the Bible. Check your quran
I'm christian and this just amazed me... I actually checked the references and this guy makes sense. I'm not looking to convert but I'm sure something isn't right with jesus being god or son on god.
look at this idiot xtian quoting sumat he heard yet he doesnt even know the context of what he quotes. all xtians quote sumat yet they have no idea the rubbish they say
@centerman011 u r right ! This naik guy is crazy trying to insult and spread hatred against other religions. We shud treat all religions as equal...end of the day its the kind of person nd not you religions that counts
this stupid xtian turd just quoting shit without knowing details that go with what hes saying.. jesus and god are one he say that is two not three cos jesus means he and god are one in purpose or he wud have said my father and i AND the ghost are one. but he dint say that. why wud he forget about the ghost being one too. also what about jesus also saying 12 disciples being one too so that makes 15gods
zakir nair is a joker,i give answer why JESUS not tell him as god,JESUS came to earth as son of man not as god,BECAUSE GOD cant dye for man,ANYWAY you cant understand HOLYBIBLE by argument any way HEAVEN is not a place for flesh and sex it is a place of holy. quran given by satan there is no good thing to tell about quran so muslims throwing stone to holybible i think zakirnaik dominated by some bad sprit take him to any pentacosta church he will get clear in the name of JESUS
@centerman011 um no really just please stop embarrassing yourself you cannot spell , you have no understanding of islam and your just making enemies of us . Look at the fucking KKK they are all christians all these racist hate groups belong to your people i quote some sayings "niggers are the scum of the earth" , your a stupid redneck ,and a fucking keyboard warrior!!
@carnagescythe360 why r u getting angry my brother we are not keyboard warriors we are prayer warriors any way you used words what your god told i used words what my GOD told me and JESUS loves you
@centerman011 are you stupid ? did u seriously just ask me that question ? bitch you call my religon fake and say the devil created it and you want me to be happy ? shut the fuck up if i ever met you I would fucking drop kick your head .
Again, Yeshu (pbuh) warned us in Math 7:15-23, 24:11-24, Mark 13:22-23, Matt 24:4-5, Matt 24:23-28 that somone would come in his NAME giving signs an miracles.
Now, read Pauls description as recorded in Acts 9:3-7 followed by Acts 26:13
Pual was a devil, is a devil, and is buring in the hell fire with devils like himself. And you foolish people who cannot think for yourselves will suffer the same fate if you don't learn the think for yourselves and questions the authority of your Church.
Yeshu (pbuh) warned of false prophets coming in his name who would have "sings and wonders" so that they could decieve the 'all' people -- Matt: 7:15-23, 24:11,24, Mark 13:22-23. In Matt: 24:4-5
Yeshu (pbuh) gives an account of that someone would come using his name. Matt 24:23-28.
What did the alleged repentent Paul, whom NEVER MET, WALKED, OR TALKED with Yeshu (pbuh) say...
The Ancient Story Teller, was One Speaker, who sat before the people who listened to his stories. Out of the same mouth , the Story Teller spoke about God, He spoke about people. He spoke about the world. Then , He changes his voices and changes his clothing and could even wear a mask. While changed , the same Story Teller, becomes God, He becomes the various People in the story and He speaks as Himself to explain the story. This is A Trinity Method of Speaking in Three Person Tenses.
@CarmineFragione - Yeshu (pbuh) - Read the scriptures I shared...ask yourself why you know nothing about "ALL" of the writings of the faithful whom were CHOSEN by Yeshu (phuh). Ask yourself why it was necessary for Christendom in 325 AD and 787 AD to hold councils. Ask yourself why they ELECTED to hide testimonies of people who walked, talked, ate, slept, and learned directly from Yeshu (pbuh), yet chose a self-decribed repentent Murderer of the Faithful whom had a VISION on a road.
When a man is at home with his family, he is known as a Person to his family, a Father, a Husband, etc. But when the same man goes out to town, he is in public a different Person, he acts differently, though he is the same body. Now, if the man is a Judge, then at work as a Judge, he wears a black robe, and he changes his behavior, he becomes another Person , who is known as the Judge on the Bench. God is behind all the appearances of God, but God can be Three Persons as the Same Being
In English Language, "Person" is the Character of the Behavior a Being can play out of the Mind. The "Being" is Material, the body, the substance . Now a Leopard cannot change it's spots, But a Human Being, can change his behavior that he so becomes a "New Person" The word "Person" is how one is known to behave, not what one looks like. The Being is the material property . Being is a Brain , a Person is the Mind, Brain cannot change, but one can change their Mind,
Matthew 25:31 " When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, he will sit on his throne in heavenly glory. All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats" LUKE 19:27 " But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be King over them- bring them here and kill them in front of me" When you see Jesus , BOW DOWN AND WORSHIP HIM Jesus is God, there is no other KING.
Christians are to pray for the Jews and the Muslims, since we have been told by the Lord Jesus that anyone who does not come to the Father through Jesus, will not see Rest and will fall into hell. Jesus is the Doorway to Heaven , no one shall pass the test unless they bow down and worship Jesus Christ. Jesus is God, who came in the flesh to appear miraculously and has Ascended to the Throne of God in Heaven, from the Mercy Seat, Jesus shall judge between the Sheep and the Goats on Judgment Day.
Now the Jews used to bow to the place of the Temple in Jerusalem, the Arabs then to copy the Jews took to bowing first to Jerusalem, then changed to bowing down towards Mecca. The Christians do not bow down to any place on Earth , They bow to the King, the King of Kings, is God appearing as Jesus on the Throne of God in Zion, So at the hearing of the Name of Jesus, Christians Worship God, facing Jesus, through whom Jesus ,did God come into the world to make an appearance. 3=1
@CarmineFragione Dear My friend, First of all I have to tell you we will not bow our head to any one except Allah. Mecca is only a direction for d people to pray from anywhere in the world. And your understanding on Islam is so poor. We don't consider black stone as God. Read and learn and find out the truth... God bless You.... In Quran you can find out the answers all you have asked. I will note quote any of those here... Learn the 4 scriptures (torah,Injeel,Zabur &Quran) that have d truth...
@bcs550 - as salaam alyakum rahmatuallhi wa barakutuh
Peshitta - Proverbs 26:4 Answer not a fool according to his folly, let you be also like him. 5 But answer a fool according to your wisdom, lest he think in himself that he is wise.
This person is a 'devil' - an insane person suffering mental torment. Take notice of the many lies mixed with elements of truth. This person has no real knowledge, wisdom, or understandng. The result is a babbler who mixes lies with truth = tormented person.
@geolocateu Whose ox is being gored ? Whose ship is sinking ? What will the Persians do with the Nuclear Bomb ? Will the Kings of Arabia seek a Nuclear Bomb ? The Arabs were never afraid of the Jews, who have bombs, but the Arabians are afraid of the Persians , if they have nuclear bombs. So, who is the fool here and who do you think you are fooling ? The Islamic People need help, not me, Your Muslim World is about to disintegrate and you talk about me being a fool ? PEACE.
@geolocateu Isaiah 19:2 "I will stir up Egyptian against Egyptian- brother will fight against brother, neighbor against neighbor, city against city, kingdom against kingdom. The Egyptians will lose heart, and I will bring their plans to nothing; they will consult the idols and the spirits of the dead, the mediums and the spiritists. I will hand the Egyptians over to the power of a cruel master and a fierce king will rule over them, declares the Lord, the Lord Almighty" Repent, come to Jesus
So the Muslims don't want you to bow to Jesus ,but they let you bow to Mecca. What is more Holy, Jesus or the Kaaba in Mecca. You have to decide, if God is in a black stone , or in the person of Jesus, Where is the most likely place to bow to, to be bowing to God, To a city in Arabia or to the One God sent as His only Begotten Son , so has the same Title of God as the "Word of God" The Word of God has no beginning or end, so that Jesus is equal to God as then sent as the Word of God.
14:7-9 Everything is a hinderance to a foolish man; but the lips of a wise man are like a weapon. The wisdom of the prudent is to understand his way; but he way of fools is deceit. Truly the household of the wicked need purifying; but the households of the righteous are acceptable.
18:2 - A fool has no delight in wisdom, because his mind DEVISES folly.
29:9 - A wise man contends with a fool, and when he is angry, he laughs and does not scoff
@geolocateu You say these words, but the revolutions and failure of Democracy in the Middle East Arab Nations shows who is the foolish ones and who has not wisdom, The American Nation is built on the principles of Christ Jesus, not on Mohammed. America stands as the richest strongest nation in world history, I do not see where our Wisdom lacks anything, but in Islamic Lands the people are in beguilement, confused and unable to reform their ways and are moving to total war and destruction
John 9: 35-41 Jesus permits the healed blind man, who now could see Jesus, who had healed him. Jesus permitted the man to bow before him and worship Jesus, Jesus did not take the moment to say "don't worship me, worship God" The man here worshiped Jesus, it says so. And so the chapter 9 is about Spiritual Blindness, The man was now able to see that God came in the flesh, because only God could heal a man who was born blind, and Jesus did not deny the man who had bowed to worship Him.
The same one human "being" as a material form, can decide to write a story and then play out the story on a stage by himself. Now, the Author who becomes the Sole Actor on his own Stage, He simply puts on a costume, changes his voice, or even wears a mask, and plays out the essential parts of the main characters as needed, The Audience does not object to this, they understand. Ancient Story Teller had Authority to speak as God, to speak about God, and speak for the people, Trinity.
What is INFINITE includes every moment of time and space, by which God has power to select any place at any time, by way of the Thought coming out of God's Mind, to cause anything to appear. So the Father thinks of the Son , and so then out of the Infinite Mind of God, comes the Word of God, which is forever attached to all of God's Mind, at all times, but appears to the people for a Revelation. Jesus is God , God decided to show the people He can be Father, Son, Holy Ghost at any time
2timothy 3;16 says all scripture if from god has to fit into 1 of 4 points given. so the verse that says samson went to gaza and saw a whore, he had sex with her. so tell me wer does this fit into the bibles own test of 2timothy 3;16 . if you cnt try porn.
I love how he stretches and bends over to prove Quran is right. Wonder what it would look like if someone tried to prove that Red Riding Hood is the word of god. I bet quite similarly.
A sole Author of a Story , can also be the sole Actor, who sets up his own stage, and then he goes on stage before the audience playing all necessary parts of many persons of interest. He wears one costume and a mask and plays that part, Then,he changes his appearance, wears another mask and plays that part- he has a Divine Power of the Mind, which can be in Unity or Diversity ,Transforming the Behavior of the only Actor present, into the essential characters TRINITY Father Son, Holy Spirit
Peace - I was thinking about your many rambling posts...and my daily study led me to the following verses found in the New Testament. Please accept the scriptures with an open heart.
Stay away from ungodly babbling because it will only lead deeper into a godless lifestyle” -- 2 Timothy 2:16
"Some speakers have something to say; others feel they have to say something." --
@geolocateu John 9: 35 to 41 Jesus talks about Spiritual Blindness. Now the blind man since birth was healed by Jesus, and when Jesus revealed to the blind man who Jesus was, the blind man bowed face down to the ground before Jesus and Worshiped Him. That is the Scripture you can go read it for yourself, Don't believe me, Jesus did not tell the man he was wrong then to worship Jesus. Jesus is God, God came in the flesh, you just can't believe God can do this, you do not know God.
@geolocateu Your view of God as Infinite is confused on the point of issue that what is then Infinite, you claim cannot then appear at Will in any objective way in the Finite. The Finite Issue of the Object is then always part of the overall Infinite Power of God, since every thought of God becomes the object appearing. Jesus is called the Word of God, The Word of God is Eternal, so Jesus as the Word of God must be Eternal as is God, since both have the same Title "Word of God" 3=1
We Catholics still have the Upper Hand, We have the True Faith and we understand the Theology of God, The Trinity is how the Bible is spoken aloud, by the Ancient Story Teller, in Three Person Tenses of speech , The Teacher is Messiah , who speaks about the Father , who speaks of Himself and gives Voices to every soul in the Bible so that the lives of the People written therein come alive ,through the Divine Act of the Messiah ,the High Priest of Yahweh is One, Father, Son, Holy Ghost
In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. says the First Verse of Torah , So God is being referred to, by the Narrator, so that is Two Person Tenses of Speech , for those who need an education in English and Story Telling. God is Divine, so that One Mouth of the Teacher who speaks the Torah , has spoken for God in the First Person Tense, spoken about God in the Second Person Tense, and spoken for the People, acting out many parts with many voices in the Minions . TRINITY
The Bible opens Genesis 1:1 with the Narrator acting as the Second Person Tense of Speech ,for He is the Teacher, who speaks of God the First Person of Interest, saying " In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth" Torah is the Eternal Word, it always was, so that God was in the Act of Three Persons of Speech to speak out the Torah, The Narrator speaks in the Second Person Tense, God comes in an speaks as Himself in the First Person Tense with quotes, and the Spirit is the Third.
So Elohim refers to All, everything that is of the Mind of God , exhaustively , collectively all in all that is the Mystery of God who has a Mind, God who is Alive and Thoughtful, who thinks and the thought turns by Mystery into an Object Appearing. When God thought to appear to Israel as the Divine Messiah , God evokes His Thought of His Son, what God the Invisible projects out of Himself and His Name, to be the Objective Appearing Messiah, Jesus Christ, is God's Mind in the Act.
So Elohim refers to All, everything that is of the Mind of God , exhaustively , collectively all in all that is the Mystery of God who has a Mind, God who is Alive and Thoughtful, who thinks and the thought turns by Mystery into an Object Appearing. When God thought to appear to Israel as the Divine Messiah , God evokes His Thought of His Son, what God the Invisible projects out of Himself and His Name, to be the Objective Appearing Messiah, Jesus Christ, is God's Mind in the Act.
So Elohim refers to All, everything that is of the Mind of God , exhaustively , collectively all in all that is the Mystery of God who has a Mind, God who is Alive and Thoughtful, who thinks and the thought turns by Mystery into an Object Appearing. When God thought to appear to Israel as the Divine Messiah , God evokes His Thought of His Son, what God the Invisible projects out of Himself and His Name, to be the Objective Appearing Messiah, Jesus Christ, is God's Mind in the Act.
The Hebrew Ellah, is taken by the Muslims to afflict the Name of God EL to change it according to the Arabic Custom Ellah is then changed or altered to say ":ALLAH" The change of the E to the A has a meaning only to the Arabic Language, that does not mean anything at all to the Jews or Christians. Elohim is about Invisible Creator God who has a Mind full of Angels and Heavenly Things , collectively , but out of the Collective of Elohim, came the Yahweh Personal Messiah , the Son of God
When God was acting as the Creator God, His Hebrew Name is El or in the plural Majesty of God and the Angels etc. taken all together , God and His Works, Elohim is the Name of God, But When God promised Abraham to come down to Earth in the Holocaust and appear to Abraham, this was a Personal Appearance of God, where God moves from being Invisible Elohim, to a Visible Personal God YAHWEH " I am" can be God speaking out of a Tree, a Mountain or out of Moses' own mouth , the Priest
All Muslims can be saved, by coming to Jesus and accepting that God appeared in the Person of Jesus Christ in the Mystery of God. God is One Being, by His own Mind and Power, able to appear coming forth out of His MInd, to be appearing to us as the Father, to be appearing to us as the Son, to be appearing to us as the Holy Ghost. God has this Power to Act and Behave , out of One Being the Important Titles and Roles of Three Persons, He is Father, He is Son of God, He is Holy Spirit
EL the Head of Elohim, the Plural Majesty of God, the Creator and His Heavenly Court , all in One Name, Yahweh, "I AM" gave to the Jews a Religion by which God Authorized, by His Jurisdiction in the Law of Moses, to be Appearing on Earth in the Way so men could see with their eyes , God, and hear with their own ears. God . And so, in the Fullness of Times, God came in the flesh as Jesus Christ, the High Priest of Yahweh, The Levite Messiah, who is Himself God Emanuel Jesus is God
The Muslims can talk about Jesus ,yes, and they do talk about Jesus. But Jesus appears within the Church as a Body of Christ, The Holy Spirit is God, a Special Outpouring of God's Grace, covers the Church of Christ. The People are all filled by the Name of Jesus and Worship God in the Name of Jesus, which Name Jesus, is God's Name "YESHUA" Hear O Israel, Yahweh, our Elohim, Yahweh is One, That Name "Yahweh" revealed as "Yahweh is Savior" that is Yeshua, or Jesus, is the Name of God EL
Now the Muslims have built beautiful Mosques, that is true, but not in any one of them, has the Living Christ Jesus appeared. The Muslims swear , Jesus is alive, and so Jesus is able to appear anywhere, but Jesus has not appeared in any Mosque. The question is why ? Jesus taught in the Temple of Solomon, On Mount Moriah in Jerusalem, and Jesus said He would give His Name Jesus to the Church , who have built a House for God's Name Jesus, and so Jesus is always among the Christians.
God has no need to make of Himself to be "Logical" God is not the subject of Quarrels and Debates. God has His own Pleasure, seeing God is the King of Kings, and Lord of Lords, what He Wills, that becomes so ,What He destroys, that is destroyed, What He Forgives ,that is forgiven. And God only permitted One People in the whole History of Humanity to give a Teaching and explain who and what God is, and that was given to Israel, and Jesus is the High Priest Messiah of Israel, He is God.
As long as the Muslims reject the need of the Priestly Messiah King, Jesus, and continue to claim they can approach God Almighty by themselves bowing five times a day , they will not understand that God has deliberately never appeared to a single Muslim, not once. Why ? Because God chose the Israelites to make a Revelation of God appearing in the World, so as to Define God One Way , and not permit God to be seen in various eyes and ways of other peoples. God only is known by the Bible
Say a man is the Teacher in the class, and the class has thirty students. In the eyes of the students the Teacher may "APPEAR" as slightly a different person, because they all see with their own eyes.The Muslims see God through eyes of the Arabians, which is fine for them, and they have every right to see with their own eyes. but the Muslims do not see God as we Christians see God, God is the One, but our view of God is by the Eyes of Jesus Christ. We see God inside the Person of Christ
Regardless of what Jesus physically looked like, no matter what color of skin or nose, if Jesus has the Mind of God, and walks forever with never ever the slightest Sin or Quarrel to make with God, then Jesus and God has been Married into Oneness. they are the same Mind, the Mind of God in Heaven is thinking and the Mind of Jesus is thinking, and the thoughts are exactly the same, night or day forever, without ever being in disagreement , they are One, So Jesus is God with All POWER.
Being Godly is not about going to Church or Temple, saying prayers five times a day , and wearing a hat. Being Godly is giving up your mortal mind by it's natural instinct for hunger, thirst, lust, fear, violence, etc. to give over all that Mortality, to God, and ask God to place into your brain the very Mind of Christ, Only God has POWER to take out your old behavior and way of thinking, and put into you the Mind of Jesus Christ, Obeying the Law is not about Religion, it is CHARACTER
How does the man become Changed inside his brain and mind, that he never again thinks of any sin or evil thoughts, but always is loving , generous, forgiving, helping others, and never spits or hates or wishes to curse another man , no matter how rotten the other man has behaved ? How does that Transformation occur in the brain of a man ? It cannot be learned by Religious Attendance. It is then a Gift of God through accepting Jesus Christ as Savior, you change because God does it Himself
As long as the natural man can see God's Law , concerning his personal conduct and way of thinking, on the one hand, but in the mind of the man , no matter how religious and attentive to Ritual Prayers or Sabbath Observances, he constantly has another mind to argue and dispute with God the inner way of thinking, so that the man has not his whole heart to walk with God fully, but keeps pulling back , trying to find another way to go , quarreling with God, and so Religion does not save any man.
The Law of God was Given as the Issue of God's Mind, by God's Finger, was it written on Stone, and then Moses took the Law and wrote it upon a Lambskin, Scrolls. saying it was not finished by either being written on stone or leather, but it had to be written in the Hearts of Human Beings, as such the Law comes without thinking, it lives as the Inner Nature of the Natural Man, who then never thinks to behave another way , and the man who attains the Law in his flesh , He is Equal to God
Jesus Christ not only Speaks the Law as Authoritative. but He Himself is the Law Itself appearing as a Person of God, Jesus is the Law Himself, He is the Sovereign King of Kings, and the High Priest of Melchizedek Forever, from before Time to after Time, Eternally Present in God, the Person of Messiah, is in the Mind of God forever, as One Being, and so what Jesus pleases to do and judge, That is the Way it shall forever be so, whatever Jesus says, That is become Eternally the Law
Psalms 110:4 " Adonai has Sworn and will not change his mind, "You are a PRIEST forever ,in the Order of Melchizedek" Mohammed is dead, so Mohammed cannot be this Priest of God who lives forever and yet lives now, and is then, from Eternity before to Eternity hereafter, Alive and Acting as the High Priest Messiah . Only Jesus has Authority of God over Mankind. Only Jesus is Salvation , Only Jesus can Speak the Law and Make it so ! Whatever Jesus says, that saying has become the Law
Jesus Christ in the Bible quotes Moses, Jesus quotes Abraham. Jesus quotes Jeremiah and the other Jewish Prophets, in many places Jesus goes into length to quote the Psalms written by David. all in the Bible, Jesus never quotes anything from the Koran . Put the Koran away and read the Bible and see how Jesus teaches from the Hebrew Bible and Quotes the Patriarchs of the Bible, but never teaches any sayings from the Koran , Not one teaching, not one Parable taken from Mohammed's wisdom
A human being has two natures. one is created, and one is Imparted out of God, so that some portion of the human being is carrying something of God inside that was not created, and so the human being is not simply a "Creature" like other animals. In your case, as a sinner, you have a Fallen Nature , that Sins against God's Spirit that needs Salvation. Jesus Christ is the Body God gave that is Filled with the Holy Spirit and has no Sin , Jesus never Sinned, He is Purely Wholly GOD.
When the men came to arrest Jesus and Jesus said " I AM HE" The men who came to arrest Jesus, all fell back , as dead. What the Muslims do not know about the Bible is that the High Priest, in the Tradition beginning with Moses, had the El Shaddai God come as a FIRE WRATH SPIRIT, into the body , and the Priest would speak out loud " I AM" meaning that is the signal God has come into the Priest and now it is not a man speaking, but God has taken over the flesh and God is speaking
The Muslims fail , because they come far enough to admit Jesus Christ is the Word of God, But when challenged to think, the Muslims fall apart. They cannot imagine how the Word of God became flesh, They miss the Entire Bible's Teaching on the Sacred Priesthood of Yahweh . How the Ellah the Invisible Elohim Spirit Creator, becomes for Israel a Personally Appearing Savior, the Yahweh "I Am" which is the Utterance of the Priest out of His mouth to signal the People, that God came into Him.
Jesus Christ is the Incarnation of God Yahweh ,the Creator by His Spirit, which Jesus once described as the "Finger of God" So God is Sufficient to appear and surround the entire Universe and so Govern as Sovereign God, and God has the Power to poke His Finger into the world , Sufficient for us to see something Divinely of God appearing directly to us, using the material world as the Coverings. Jesus' body is like a Tent, or the Shepherd wearing Wool and Sheepskins, to conceal who He is.
In John 9:16 a healed man bows down to Jesus Christ and Worshiped Him as one who worships God. Jesus did not deny the man, or stop the man from doing so. Because the relationship of the Priest to God, is the body of the Priest is given to God as God's own body , whenever God wishes to Possess the Body of the Priest, and so by Worshiping Jesus, one is Worshiping God who appears through the Priest to people , directly, face to face, God is behind the Face of Jesus, Indwelling is God.
What is the Priesthood ? The Ancient Story Teller, had a Divine Talent to speak for all parties appearing in the story, so the Priest would be Transformative. The Priest as the Story Teller, when he speaks for the People in the story , the Priest has the Divine Power to become those people and play out their parts in the story , making separate voices come out of the Priest's mouth. When the Priest speaks for God, God comes through the mouth of the Priest , with a Holy Voice, that is God
Jesus as the Son of God, giving Himself Body and Mind over to God the Father, permits God the Father to Personally Appear on Earth as God. God the Father was Inside the body of Jesus the Son of God, They were so unified in Spirit, they had no separate or private life away from each ,the Father held the life of Jesus, intimately. This is what the Priesthood is about , what is the Mystery of God appearing in the Priest, Mohammed was never a Priest of Yahweh God, Follow Jesus only, He is God
The Trinity was coined to help us understand that the Invisible God Yahweh was appearing in various Ways, using Persons, into whom God gave Himself Power to visibly appear, and this is analogous to a man who lives in the Tent, the man who lives in the House, The House then holds the man, thus the Invisible God, who cannot be seen , can then enter a Dwelling Place, be it a Tree, Mountain, House or a human body and so appear and act out according to the thoughts of God's Mind,= Jesus Christ
A single Actor is One Being, Materially, but having a Mind, can Impersonate Three Persons by the Will of the Mind able to separate the Characters and decide when and where to Act out the Three Persons , the One Being, the Actor, on His Stage , wears one costume and a mask and appears as a special Person , but then changes His Costume, wears another mask and then Acts out the character of yet another Person, but all this Persons exist in the Mind of the Actor who is One Being. Trinity.
As Saint Paul the Apostle taught us Christians, that anyone who comes to teach about God but denies that God came in the flesh is denying the High Priesthood of the Anointed Messiah . The whole concept of Messiah is God chooses one Son of God, to enter that body and so by this Way of Indwelling the Son ,the Father is able to move the mouth of the Priest and declare the Word of God, in Person . God is One Being, but is able to Behave as a Father, as a Son , as the Holy Spirit, 3 Persons.
The Priesthood of Christ means everything to the Catholic Faith , God who is Invisible, yet have power to cohabit and enter the dwelling space of the human mind and have Communion with a man in the man's mind. Christ brings God directly into the man , because Christ is the Priest, and the Concept of the Priest is that the Priest is a Sacred Vessel on Earth , within the flesh , God has the Way to operate and appear on Earth through the arms and legs and the eyes and mouth of the Priest.
To the Koran's God, that God never appears in the world, The God of Koran never speaks to any man. The God of the Koran never appears to any man. The God of the Koran never comes inside the mind and body of any man to live in the Tent with the man, who lives in the Tent of Flesh and Blood. The God of the Bible is a Covenant God who appears to the man , who speaks directly to the man , and the God who enters the flesh and blood Tent or Tabernacle of the man as the Father, within.
God was literally inside the body of Jesus Christ, God was never inside the body of Mohammed, So to Mohammed, God was never seen or heard, but with Jesus, Jesus said the Father literally was inside His own body and in his Mind, that God was the Active Power inside the body of Jesus Christ causing Jesus to appear and speak and act. The God of Jesus is an Indwelling Spirit, the God of Mohammed is a distant message given only by an Angel in the Cave. Big Difference. Follow Jesus.
@CarmineFragione - peace... it would be better for you to actually study the Qur'an for yourself. There is no compulsion...pray before you read it asking for understanding and discernment.
@geolocateu Psalms 110 "The Lord Adonai says to my Lord Adonai" God has a Divine Mind, where in God can have a thought of His Behavior, in His Mind, but also have another thought of Himself, in His Mind and so God is Transformative, able to appear one way to one man, for a Reason of God's Sovereign Pleasure, and then God has another Mind to reveal Himself to another man, that each man sees a different Person coming out of God's Mind, Jesus is God to the People, Divine Messiah.
@geolocateu Psalms 82:6 proves the Islamic idea of a man being fully a "Creature" is a false belief. We have a flesh part that God made up of the dust, yes, But if you read Genesis 2, you see that God then takes the man of dust, and God BREATHES God's own breath of Life into the body , that the man is a Soul. So you cannot say a man is simply a "Creature" that is false, part is created, and part is a Gift coming out of God's own Being, Jesus is fully God, while you are partly god
@CarmineFragione - Peace to you.. Why do you try and put words in my mouth. This 'creature' is nonsense.
Considering what you have written on this topic it is obvious you have NEVER read the Qur'an. I suggest you do something courageous like visiting a masjid (mosque) in local community, or ask a Muslim to help you understand.
I am not certain English is your first language. What is your mother tongue? Perhaps we can can converse better in another language.
@geolocateu Jesus never entered a Mosque, Jesus did enter Synagogues and Jesus did teach daily in the Colonnades of Solomon in the Temple of Jerusalem. If you did believe in the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, you would say let's take away the Mosque from the Temple Mount and build the House of God that Yahweh God asked for, the Temple of Solomon. Now, God is One Being, but between you and me, God appears and looks different, maybe it is your eyes.
@CarmineFragione - Either you need a history lesson (with proper timeline) or you are trying to be funny. Say what you mean, and mean what you say.
Synagogue is a Greek word. Yeshu - pbuh spoke a localized dialect of Aramaic, thus he would most like have used the words beit tefilah (house of prayer), or referred to the place where the council of elders (Sanhedirn) met as "beit k'nesset"
@geolocateu YESHUA is the Hebrew Leavened Name of the Priestly Messiah King. The Name of God YAHWEH, or YHWH has no Vowels , it is written as only the Consonant Letters, and so God an Increase the Meaning of His own Name, according to how God is appearing and behaving in the Act of doing whatever God wills to do, God willed to be Father to us, but God is not a "Father" Father is a Title for anyone who is a Person who does a job of raising children, Father is a Title, like King
@geoloca The God who is then Acting out upon His Sovereign Mind's Thoughts, He is acting as the Father who Thinks and as God thinks the Son of God appears materially as the Objective of God, to appear, by the Word of God, Jesus is the Word of God made flesh , the meaning here is wrapped up in the minutia of Moses' Law for the Levitical Priesthood ,and gives moreso to God the Priesthood of Melchizedek which made God appear to Abraham in the flesh and eat dairy and meat, being above the Law.
@geolocateu Before you read the Koran, ask yourself, "How does Mohammed have God speaking in the Koran, as if God spoke to Mohammed, and then you find out that Mohammed never ever once heard God's Voice speaking to him or any other person that Mohammed knew. Mohammed heard a spirit or angel, speaking to him in the cave, and never knew if that was truly sent by God. So, before you read the Koran , how do you know that this is not faked by wise men, pretending to speak as gods.???
@geolocateu Ask yourself also, why is it that Jesus Christ never quoted any substantial sayings from the Koran ? In the Bible Jesus speaks at length many parables and teachings but never once word for word goes to reciting any prayers in the Koran or quoting the Koran or the Hadiths or any such Arabic Prayers or Wisdoms that were supposedly written by Abraham, ? Not once does Jesus recite the Koran in the Bible, so Jesus had no knowledge of who or what the Koran was written about.
Mohammed was never a Priest, Mohammed never saw God, never heard God, never had God enter his own human body as a Divine Presence. Jesus is God, because God indwelt the flesh and blood of Jesus, by the terms of Moses' Law giving a Way for God to appear among the People, where God Elohim the Invisible, sends the Holy Spirit, "Shekinah" to appear out of Heaven , enter the Priest and the Priest begins to move around, as God is inside the body ,causing the mouth to speak the Word.
That is the difference, the Christian sees God indwelling the body of Jesus , because in the Tradition of the Bible , Jesus is a Sacred Vessel, and in the body is God's Holy Spirit. Thus the Father is present within the Son , because this is the Terms of the High Priesthood of Yahweh , Where God comes from Invisible Heaven , to appear within the flesh and blood of the Anointed Messiah Priest. The Priest then gives His Body to God, so that God comes in the flesh to speak directly to the people
In John 9:16 Jesus reveals to a man whom Jesus had healed, that Jesus is the Son of Man, which in Ancient Judaism does not mean Jesus was an ordinary man, but that Jesus was a Levite Priest , like Moses, a Man, in whom is the Spirit of God Indwelling Him. So the man finding out Jesus is Messiah , the man in the scripture of John 9:16 bows down to Jesus and "Worshiped Him" Jesus then accepts Worship, because in Him, is the Spirit of God equally Present, which is about God's Priest.
@CarmineFragione - there is a major difference between referring to oneself as 'bar-nasha' and 'bar-dalaha'
'bar-nasha' - bar=son, nasha=man - Aramaic way of saying "human being" - this is the words used by Yeshu - pbuh throughout the gospels (in the Aramaic)
'bar-dalaha' - bar=son, dalaha (d-alaha/god) - Aramaic way of saying "son of allah(god). It refers to someones likeness (image) to god in spirit as evidence by their loving attitude, behavior, character in relationship with allah (swt).
Anyone who says to me, "The Bible was once the Word of God, but men changed the Bible" that is impossible to say. If God be God and thus, If the Bible began as the Holy Scripture, then God is the Judge over the Bible, not the Muslims, The Muslims have no say to claim the Bible does not report the Mind of God, but only God can speak about the Bible. The Bible says the only Prophets of God came of the Jews, From Abraham to Isaac to Jacob , to Moses and Joshua, to David and Solomon
when the Muslims say there is no Ellah, but "ALLAH" They are speaking two different names of God, they say first "There is no ELLAH" So they repudiate the Name of God that is Hebrew the EL tradition of calling God by the Name ELLAH. So they say now that there is no ELLAH , BUT !!! there is ALLAH ! So they make a new idea of God by their belief about God's BEHAVIOR, in their view, their God behaves differently than the ELLAH of the Jews, Elohim or El is Hebrew.
@CarmineFragione - Peace...what you said is not true. Aramaic, Hebrew, and Arabic all belong to the same language family. The language family is the Afro-Asiatic family of languages, within the Semitic branch. Each of the 3 languages words are created by combining 3 to 4 consonants. The addition of vowels are recent to these language. Regardless...el oha, al aha, al alah has the same meaning in all 3 languages. Do not make the mistake of assuming your can make sense without knowing languages.
@geolocateu Do you believe the Bible is the Word of God that God as God is able to send the Bible as His Word and that it does accurately reveal the Mind of God ? Or do you say the Bible is not of God, that the Koran is equal to God as the Word, and so this boils down to one who says the Mind of God is in the Bible and another who says no, the Mind of God is in the Koran, so it ends up that each has One God, but that God is two different Gods, judging by the message in the Holy Writ.
@CarmineFragione - as salaam alyakum. I start by stating, "la ilaha illallah
Yes, I believe without questions in the message/teaching of Yeshu/Isa (Jesus), il mesih (messiah) - pbuh.
No need for convoluted questions. There is only one god - Allah (in semitic languages) whom sent many messengers to mankind throughout human history. The last being Muhammad - pbuh
1/x - without understanding language (semitic) / you cannot understand cultural idioms and parable - the root of your confusion.
let me use a simile to explain this.The father is the sun,jesus is the sunlight, the holy spirit is the power and effect .The sun is too hot to get close (the father's holiness),but we can feel and know him by jesus he sent to us (the light),so there are no errors in the bible.
hitler and devil are angels compared to bible god look at this; he orders mums cut open and ther unborn killed, has women raped infront of families, has animals and BABIES smashed on rocks ect ect these war crimes are unbelievably evil even devil never did this xtians say god did this its in the bible. they cant lie this time
You Poor Zakir Naik... You might have read the Bible... But the Truth is not revealed to you... If you would have got the Truth then you will heal the People who are sick, You will console the Heart which is Hurt... Anyone can speak anything from the Stage... But when it comes to the reality(Action), You will understand that You have not understood enough... If you wanna know the Power of our Lord Jesus Christ, Please watch All the videos Pastor Chris... Especially His Healing Miracles Video
@wiltubesonfrancis You know all atheist would just laugh at your statement.
You have to evidence to proof your religon my friend otherwhise you dont have any rights to talk. If Zakir Nakir can attack your religon that easy i think your religon has to be false or corrupted.
@Lizzio1980 Hi Friend... Thank you for your Comment... I would like to know, Are you an Atheist or Muslim? You need a Proof Right? Kindly Type "Pastor Chris Power In The Name of Jesus.wmv" and watch the video and its parts 2,3,4,so on... Then kindly reply your valuable answer to me... Take care.. God Loves You with an Everlasting Love. Start believing Him to have an everlasting Life... God Bless You...
@Lizzio1980 See, Friend We can say anything about anyone. You simply don't quote anything without knowing the context. First you read the Context. More over have a open mind to the Discussion. Don't kindly stick into what you knew it already. We will have a healthy Discussion.
@wiltubesonfrancis I didn't meant to offend you but i belief that a human person cannot do miracles only if they are given the power by god and are prophets or messengers. As i myself belief that mohammed(saws) is the last prophet/messenger when he followed up jesus(pbuh)
As i am worried about the anti-christ and people doing mircales in jesus(pbuh) name read: [Matt. 7:21-23]
Be reasonable and think about this: How can three persons be one person when a person means by definition individual mind/soul, don't try to explain it with feelings or material items.. because person means by definition INDIVIDUAL MIND/SOUL so three of them cant be one!
@Lizzio1980 My Friend, I think you are bit confused about what I have said to you. No Problem, see, Jumping to the new topic is not good for the healthy Discussion, So try answer to the question that I have asked in my previous messages. And then Kindly watch this video in You tube by typing " pastor chris: Do christian and muslim worship the same God? ". Then kindly please reply me. Take care... God bless you.
@Lizzio1980 Could you please kindly answer to the question I asked in my previous reply to you. was about the proof and Do you believe Jesus will come again to earth near the day of judgment to restore justice? And do you believe in His Teachings...? Kindly reply to this.
@Lizzio1980 If you read the Bible from Matt 5, Jesus has just started His First Speech to the people. So from Matt chapter 5 to 7, His speech is continued with a stop. It is later we who have split-ted the chapters. So people are hear His name for the first time. So, kindly change your statement "As i am worried about the anti-christ and people doing mircales in jesus(pbuh) name read: [Matt. 7:21-23]" Jesus name were not used in the context you wrote... Fine, Its good that it gets Hot.. see U.
@wiltubesonfrancis Uh i am confused that you started about the divinity of jesus(pbuh) when i was talking about people doing mircales, i don't even need to quote verses to make my point about the trinity or jesus(pbuh) being a prophet/messenger i can just use logic and reason but i can do both if wanted (just send me a personal message)
Warnings of ''bad people, prophets and so called miracle people can be found in Matthew 7 read the whole chapter.
@wiltubesonfrancis Mircales are no sign of being a prophet or a good man: (Matthew 24:24 RSV)
The real test to show if the man is from god(messenger/prophet) is this: (Matthew 7:15-23 RSV)
As you can read by the fruits you should know them, Mohammed(saws) couldn't do any miracles like John the Baptist but he made a whole community of people ''1,5bil'' Muslims believing in jesus(pbuh) and in One-God while following the commandments and laws with simply words!
@Lizzio1980 If you don't believe in Miracles, it is not worthy to be a Person who believes in Awesome and Miraculous God. So, by the way that you write clearly depicts me that you are a Muslim. Well I love Muslims... You just tell me, What kind of Proof you need it? Do you believe Jesus will come again to earth near the day of judgment to restore justice? And do you believe in His Teachings...? If so, Kindly let me know it in your reply... Take care, God Bless You..
[Luke. 12:49] 'I CAME TO CAST FIRE UPON THE EARTH, AND WOULD THAT IT WERE ALREADY KINDLED.. DO YOU THINK THAT I HAVE COME TO GIVE PEACE ON EARTH? NO, I TELL YOU, BUT RATHER DIVISION; for from henceforth in one house there will be five divided, three against two, and two against three. They will be divided, father against son, and son against father, mother against daughter, and daughter against her mother. [said Jesus]!
@asif4995 That was a prophecy that came true. People did kill over their beliefs, but Jesus strictly forebade such killing, unlike the pervert prophet who repeatedly ordered his followers to fight and kill anyone who refused to accept Islam. He also said that Islam would spit into 73 sects after his death (Dawuud) and he instructed his followers to kill any Muslim who caused disunity within Islam. It becomes clear why Muslims kill more Muslims than they kill others.
[Math. 10:34] "Do not think that I have come to make peace on earth? I HAVE NOT COME TO BRING PEACE, BUT A SWORD. "For I have come to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother." [said Jesus]!
Ezekiel 9:6 Slaughter old men, young men and maidens, women and children, but do not touch anyone who has the mark. Begin at my sanctuary." So they began with the elders who were in front of the temple.
There is no substitute for direct teaching of Children, by Good Angels of God's Peace. To be taking care of Children, is never having to need to use any force or violence on the Children. Because if the mother and father are there everyday, to wash clean the children and teach the stories of wisdom to the children, the Children will not know the ways of anger and violence. It is never a natural thing for Children to hate anyone, but again , children should never ever be left alone unguarded.
When Children are growing up in family, where the man beats his wife and is abusive also to the children, the children become possessed of Evil Spirits, that the man by his Sinful Ways, has brought into the house. This is why people need Salvation, Evil has a way into the mind, where the people do not realize the power of corruption. If the Child is raised in Peace and Truth for the first Seven Years of Life, the Child will continue in this first teaching for the rest of his or her life
Bring all the Children to Jesus, Baptizing them in the Name of the Father, of the Son , of the Holy Ghost, the Name Lord Jesus Christ. This Name is given of God for all humanity to be Saved and has the Power of God's Holiness, to drive the Evil Spirits and the Devil away from the Children, That the Children shall grow in love and cleanness and family respects, having then the Natural Affection God has given by way of the calling of people to be Parents, being then as Guardian Angels.
If the child picks up evil spirits from the evil ways of their parents, they can behave as possessed of the Devil. They can become agitated, angry, rebellious , unloving, uncaring , unclean, stealing, swearing, cursing, without natural affection. This evil way is from the behavior of the parents or others who care for the children , which today commonly is called "Child Abuse" Evil Spirits can be Washed away in Baptism and Prayer and Peace, teaching Children, they shall be healed
"Cleanliness is next to Godliness" the Human Body is the host, the earthly tabernacle or Tent , within is given of God the Soul and Spirit. The Child is Innocent from Birth , but the flesh body must be washed clean daily, and every Evil thing, must be kept away from the Children, that they not learn to do evil. "Hear no Evil, Speak no Evil, See no Evil" Children should be kept very clean from the dirt and filth of the world, which Fallen Ways, teach bad things, such as Lust.
When America , a Christian Nation , finished the War on the Empire of Japan, the Japan Empire did many crimes and terrors. but the Americans did not wish to destroy all the people for their sins. They were forgiven, the blood of many dead, and in return America had laid waste the Nation of Japan, destroying many cities and lives. But then, the people following the Teachings of Christ, forgive Nations, and where they were deadly enemies, now they are allies and close friends.
Today there are many Muslims who hate the Jews, because they were taught to hate and they really believe their hatred is justified. But if they learn of God that they were taught lies about the Jews or about the Christians, or if Christians and Jews were taught lies about the Muslims, and they all realized they were being lied to, and things are not the way they seem. then they are ready to Meet Jesus and obtain Special Mercy of God to be Forgiven all Sins, no matter how bad they were.
The Evil man would never really believe in Jesus. He would never think to repent or desire to change or wish to. He might fool other human beings by his false acts of giving money or praying in public or speaking words meant to be said by a good man. No, his sins are never forgiven as long as he desires the Path of Evil day after day. But a man who comes to the Cross of Jesus, realizes God is God and the man must die, but now he asks God to be merciful and so God can forgive sins
Can a man think Evil, day after day , and use as an excuse Jesus died for his sins ? NO !!! Let's be serious, God gave Salvation to those seeking the Way of Salvation. Now the evil man is condemned, not because of what he does, but what he thinks in his mind, as he does those things condemns him. He cannot use Jesus as an excuse because his mind is yet evil in thoughts. Only the man who repents to believe in Jesus, will then think the right way as God gave and then sins are forgiven.
When a man has no choice, but to fight and kill or be killed, that is then not "Murder" What is Murder ? Murder is to lie in wait for a man, to kill him and easily steal his money, his property and his own people. So, your question is about questioning God Himself, God is prepared to forgive all sins, based on the Atonement Blood of Jesus Christ, If you commit a sin worthy of death , God has unleashed His Wrath upon Jesus, so that God will not be angry with you, and you can repent
We all know that it is wrong to kill, But Nations war against Nations and men are called upon to fight and kill other people. Which is forgivable and what is held against the man forever ? It goes to MOTIVE. It is not the overt act you do that God judges you by, It is what is going on in your mind that permits you to do it. Are you a soldier , or are your people held hostage by evil men ? Why do you do what you do ? God judges by the answer as to why you do it. God is Merciful
So a human being is hungry. Then the passion to eat, can be used as a good way that God is using to help the body live , or you can corrupt the desire to eat, as a passion out of control and then a false teaching to make you live the Evil Life. So, if eating one meal is good, then eating a hundred meals every day is abusive and sickening and thus Evil. To take what is in balance for the good of the body to teach the body to be Addicted and Abusive and Corrupted is Evil and Satanic.
@CarmineFragione It is not Dr. zakir fault if the professor doesnt have the knowledge, Let me remind you that some of Islam scholars do speaks hebrew and did the reserach of the bible contradictions, do you read the old testament in hebrew? Muslim not pick which are suit to the Quran rather analyze it with the logical manner. Learn hebrew and latin after that please do research then u can defend the bible base on knowledge, no need grumbling.
@CarmineFragione Moslems recite and memorize Quran since the beginning of its time, in my country where i come from there are 600.000 hafidz and hafidza (men and women who memorize the whole chapter of the Quran) in that sense if somebody wanna make change or corrupt the contain of Quran, u have to be prepare to face them, this makes Quran will never end up like the bible. We got just 1 version of Quran, how many version of the bible u got?
@bima1979ol Btw, to memorized the bible would not be problem to those who already memorize Quran. If the bible is so important to the Christian how come no one memorize the whole bible?
What is the Trinity Way ? Three Person Tenses of Speech, permits the Author, who alone is the sole Actor, upon His own Stage. He wears a mask, or changes a costume, He has but One Mouth , but Many Voices come out of the One Mouth of God.So the Bible has a Speaker to orally tell the Bible's Story to the People, who sit around the Teacher and listen to One Priest,who says everything, speaking for God, for the various people in the stories, giving them life and a voice and speaks as Himself
The Bible was written for One Story Teller, to use One Mouth to speak the Word. But out of the mouth comes all Witnesses to speak their parts. In Genesis One, verse One, " In the Beginning God created the Heavens and the Earth" So here, God already, before Creation began, Divined within God, Father and Son, and so the Second Person is speaking of the First Person ,God the Creator. The Priest speaks for God, announcing God, as if God is some other person about to appear. Trinity.
The Being of God is One. God in the Most High Heaven is One, and there is nothing else in Heaven but God the Being One. But God Divined the World out of His Invisible Substance and Glory the Way the World is, is Separated from the Invisible God, yet the whole world is inside the Being of God, and God appears in various ways among us, and in the last times , God Almighty, appeared in a Temple of human flesh and blood, and so we, with our human eyes saw Him. With our ears, heard Him Speak.
Jesus is God, Jesus is God the Father, God the Son, God the Holy Spirit, Jesus is the flesh and blood of Mary's Seed, taken as the "Y" factor, made into a human body , and then God the Most High God Almighty, by His Finger, did God comes down through the Way of Creation to be found dwelling among us as Jesus . Jesus is God, God wrapped a human flesh body around like it was a garment. Inside Jesus, is the Unapproachable Light, the Invisible Yahweh Shekinah Glory, God Emanuel
When one takes all the Bible , the Christian Faith is found to be the Truth of the entire Bible, not part . Islam only takes some portions of the Bible to make a case it is truth, and that means it is not true. Islam would have to justify it's teachings in light of the whole Bible,without a single exception ,and then one can decide if Islam is really based on the God of the Bible or on men's ideas they had privately about God, or about the Bible. It is all or nothing at all. 3=1
what do you mean none of us are good enough? why would god bother to make us then? why did his prophets say we can ? man can stop sins himself. what nonsence to say some1 else pays for your crimes. name one christian court of law in the world that runs on this philosophy? ive never heard such nonsense you do a crime and someone else an innocent pays for it? wheres your brain? why dont xtian courts practise what they preach? cos its ridiculous thats why......
Ibn Taymiyyah has a nice passage in one of his books showing that: "In fact, the kufr of Jews and Christians is because of "Bid'ah". They introduced new things into the religion and those things took them completely away from the true message of Musa (Moses) and Isaa (Jesus) Alaihumma Salam"
@Heavensway1 you're saying isha alleihisalaam (jesus peace be upon him) is seated next to the right hand of the father AND that he is god? I thought you Christians believed in 1 god just like we muslims do.
FlamAble94 34 minutes ago
Jesus the Christ died on a cross, he was buried and on the third day he rose again. he then ascended to heaven that's when he sent the Holy Spirit (the other comforter) To be with us Until Jesus the Christ returns. Muhammed remains dead, Jesus is alive and is seated at the right hand of the Father and will come again to judge the living and the dead (including Muhammed). Even the quran doesn't say Muhammed is coming back to judge. Only God can judge......so who is Jesus....GOD
Heavensway1 1 day ago
It was greatness of Jesus Christ that though he was God he never demanded worship while he was on earth from man. The person who demands respect is not a true person does not anyone man conscience say? We have to worship him as God because he deserves it being born of a virgin Mary without human union and died in this flesh and rose again and is alive. The fool does not understand so deep things of God.
inhimforeternity 2 days ago
Zakir Naik is a greatest fool and the Christians here asking him who is a foolish muslim are also fools because one cannot interpret or understand Jesus without the Holy Spirit. He is becoming smart in quoting long and long scriptures without seeing and speaking hastily does not mean that his. He twists scripture as he wishes proof is he says that Holy Spirit is Mohammed now tell him where Jesus says that Holy Spirit is Mohammed? Nonsense.
inhimforeternity 2 days ago
the bible has mistakes it cant be the true religon...islam is the true religon and makes sense
AHMED7864LYF 5 days ago
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@AHMED7864LYF This is the TRUTH. quran demands muslims to kill.Mohammed said, “Whoever changes his Islamic religion, kill him.” (Hadith Al Buhkari vol. 9:57). You must be ignorant to have faith in a religion and a man that teaches to kill in the name of GOD(ALLAH).muhamad's way was and still is"ISLEM TESLIM."By the Sword. Read sura 9:29 “Slay the idolators [non-Muslims] wherever ye find them, Muslim’s make every effort to suppress any who claim to follow the Bible. Check your quran
33heis 3 days ago
I'm christian and this just amazed me... I actually checked the references and this guy makes sense. I'm not looking to convert but I'm sure something isn't right with jesus being god or son on god.
pak215856 1 week ago 5
@pak215856 YOU ARE LYING.
33heis 3 days ago
@33heis thats what jesus said
pak215856 3 days ago
i wish god would get rid of religion...
ab330 1 week ago
look at this idiot xtian quoting sumat he heard yet he doesnt even know the context of what he quotes. all xtians quote sumat yet they have no idea the rubbish they say
mrlogicalman1 2 weeks ago
dr.zakir nayak doing excelent job
mgodfathersa 3 weeks ago 4
@centerman011 u r right ! This naik guy is crazy trying to insult and spread hatred against other religions. We shud treat all religions as equal...end of the day its the kind of person nd not you religions that counts
kawaii28asd 3 weeks ago
Subhanallah! dr naik has good memory. u r one heavenly good speaker for the muslim.
2780Mohammed 1 month ago
LOOK AT THIS XTIAN BASTARD SAYS HES WRONG BUT HAS NO REASON WHY HES WRTONG. WHAT A STUPID BASTARD.
mrlogicalman1 1 month ago
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@mrlogicalman1 .hows's your mom's massive cunt?
72 talibans waiting for her right now
tell her get ready and oil the vulva linings
NaPakAsstani 1 month ago
this stupid xtian turd just quoting shit without knowing details that go with what hes saying.. jesus and god are one he say that is two not three cos jesus means he and god are one in purpose or he wud have said my father and i AND the ghost are one. but he dint say that. why wud he forget about the ghost being one too. also what about jesus also saying 12 disciples being one too so that makes 15gods
mrlogicalman1 1 month ago
if you believe him, sent by God, you can see his miracles. (john 10-25)
for argument, you can bend the verses, as you like to make it different meanings. he want to make argument, not about believe
kennedysundar1 1 month ago
zakir nair is a joker,i give answer why JESUS not tell him as god,JESUS came to earth as son of man not as god,BECAUSE GOD cant dye for man,ANYWAY you cant understand HOLYBIBLE by argument any way HEAVEN is not a place for flesh and sex it is a place of holy. quran given by satan there is no good thing to tell about quran so muslims throwing stone to holybible i think zakirnaik dominated by some bad sprit take him to any pentacosta church he will get clear in the name of JESUS
centerman011 1 month ago
@centerman011 um no really just please stop embarrassing yourself you cannot spell , you have no understanding of islam and your just making enemies of us . Look at the fucking KKK they are all christians all these racist hate groups belong to your people i quote some sayings "niggers are the scum of the earth" , your a stupid redneck ,and a fucking keyboard warrior!!
carnagescythe360 1 month ago
@carnagescythe360 why r u getting angry my brother we are not keyboard warriors we are prayer warriors any way you used words what your god told i used words what my GOD told me and JESUS loves you
centerman011 1 month ago
@centerman011 are you stupid ? did u seriously just ask me that question ? bitch you call my religon fake and say the devil created it and you want me to be happy ? shut the fuck up if i ever met you I would fucking drop kick your head .
carnagescythe360 3 weeks ago
@centerman011 Prayer warriors ? LAME
carnagescythe360 3 weeks ago
Again, Yeshu (pbuh) warned us in Math 7:15-23, 24:11-24, Mark 13:22-23, Matt 24:4-5, Matt 24:23-28 that somone would come in his NAME giving signs an miracles.
Now, read Pauls description as recorded in Acts 9:3-7 followed by Acts 26:13
Pual was a devil, is a devil, and is buring in the hell fire with devils like himself. And you foolish people who cannot think for yourselves will suffer the same fate if you don't learn the think for yourselves and questions the authority of your Church.
geolocateu 1 month ago
Yeshu (pbuh) warned of false prophets coming in his name who would have "sings and wonders" so that they could decieve the 'all' people -- Matt: 7:15-23, 24:11,24, Mark 13:22-23. In Matt: 24:4-5
Yeshu (pbuh) gives an account of that someone would come using his name. Matt 24:23-28.
What did the alleged repentent Paul, whom NEVER MET, WALKED, OR TALKED with Yeshu (pbuh) say...
cont...
geolocateu 1 month ago
The Ancient Story Teller, was One Speaker, who sat before the people who listened to his stories. Out of the same mouth , the Story Teller spoke about God, He spoke about people. He spoke about the world. Then , He changes his voices and changes his clothing and could even wear a mask. While changed , the same Story Teller, becomes God, He becomes the various People in the story and He speaks as Himself to explain the story. This is A Trinity Method of Speaking in Three Person Tenses.
CarmineFragione 1 month ago
@CarmineFragione - Yeshu (pbuh) - Read the scriptures I shared...ask yourself why you know nothing about "ALL" of the writings of the faithful whom were CHOSEN by Yeshu (phuh). Ask yourself why it was necessary for Christendom in 325 AD and 787 AD to hold councils. Ask yourself why they ELECTED to hide testimonies of people who walked, talked, ate, slept, and learned directly from Yeshu (pbuh), yet chose a self-decribed repentent Murderer of the Faithful whom had a VISION on a road.
Good luck
geolocateu 1 month ago
When a man is at home with his family, he is known as a Person to his family, a Father, a Husband, etc. But when the same man goes out to town, he is in public a different Person, he acts differently, though he is the same body. Now, if the man is a Judge, then at work as a Judge, he wears a black robe, and he changes his behavior, he becomes another Person , who is known as the Judge on the Bench. God is behind all the appearances of God, but God can be Three Persons as the Same Being
CarmineFragione 1 month ago
In English Language, "Person" is the Character of the Behavior a Being can play out of the Mind. The "Being" is Material, the body, the substance . Now a Leopard cannot change it's spots, But a Human Being, can change his behavior that he so becomes a "New Person" The word "Person" is how one is known to behave, not what one looks like. The Being is the material property . Being is a Brain , a Person is the Mind, Brain cannot change, but one can change their Mind,
CarmineFragione 1 month ago
Matthew 25:31 " When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, he will sit on his throne in heavenly glory. All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats" LUKE 19:27 " But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be King over them- bring them here and kill them in front of me" When you see Jesus , BOW DOWN AND WORSHIP HIM Jesus is God, there is no other KING.
CarmineFragione 1 month ago
Christians are to pray for the Jews and the Muslims, since we have been told by the Lord Jesus that anyone who does not come to the Father through Jesus, will not see Rest and will fall into hell. Jesus is the Doorway to Heaven , no one shall pass the test unless they bow down and worship Jesus Christ. Jesus is God, who came in the flesh to appear miraculously and has Ascended to the Throne of God in Heaven, from the Mercy Seat, Jesus shall judge between the Sheep and the Goats on Judgment Day.
CarmineFragione 1 month ago
Now the Jews used to bow to the place of the Temple in Jerusalem, the Arabs then to copy the Jews took to bowing first to Jerusalem, then changed to bowing down towards Mecca. The Christians do not bow down to any place on Earth , They bow to the King, the King of Kings, is God appearing as Jesus on the Throne of God in Zion, So at the hearing of the Name of Jesus, Christians Worship God, facing Jesus, through whom Jesus ,did God come into the world to make an appearance. 3=1
CarmineFragione 1 month ago
@CarmineFragione Dear My friend, First of all I have to tell you we will not bow our head to any one except Allah. Mecca is only a direction for d people to pray from anywhere in the world. And your understanding on Islam is so poor. We don't consider black stone as God. Read and learn and find out the truth... God bless You.... In Quran you can find out the answers all you have asked. I will note quote any of those here... Learn the 4 scriptures (torah,Injeel,Zabur &Quran) that have d truth...
bcs550 1 month ago
@bcs550 - as salaam alyakum rahmatuallhi wa barakutuh
Peshitta - Proverbs 26:4 Answer not a fool according to his folly, let you be also like him. 5 But answer a fool according to your wisdom, lest he think in himself that he is wise.
This person is a 'devil' - an insane person suffering mental torment. Take notice of the many lies mixed with elements of truth. This person has no real knowledge, wisdom, or understandng. The result is a babbler who mixes lies with truth = tormented person.
geolocateu 1 month ago
@geolocateu Whose ox is being gored ? Whose ship is sinking ? What will the Persians do with the Nuclear Bomb ? Will the Kings of Arabia seek a Nuclear Bomb ? The Arabs were never afraid of the Jews, who have bombs, but the Arabians are afraid of the Persians , if they have nuclear bombs. So, who is the fool here and who do you think you are fooling ? The Islamic People need help, not me, Your Muslim World is about to disintegrate and you talk about me being a fool ? PEACE.
CarmineFragione 1 month ago
@geolocateu Isaiah 19:2 "I will stir up Egyptian against Egyptian- brother will fight against brother, neighbor against neighbor, city against city, kingdom against kingdom. The Egyptians will lose heart, and I will bring their plans to nothing; they will consult the idols and the spirits of the dead, the mediums and the spiritists. I will hand the Egyptians over to the power of a cruel master and a fierce king will rule over them, declares the Lord, the Lord Almighty" Repent, come to Jesus
CarmineFragione 1 month ago
So the Muslims don't want you to bow to Jesus ,but they let you bow to Mecca. What is more Holy, Jesus or the Kaaba in Mecca. You have to decide, if God is in a black stone , or in the person of Jesus, Where is the most likely place to bow to, to be bowing to God, To a city in Arabia or to the One God sent as His only Begotten Son , so has the same Title of God as the "Word of God" The Word of God has no beginning or end, so that Jesus is equal to God as then sent as the Word of God.
CarmineFragione 1 month ago
@CarmineFragione - Peshitta - Book of Proverbs
14:7-9 Everything is a hinderance to a foolish man; but the lips of a wise man are like a weapon. The wisdom of the prudent is to understand his way; but he way of fools is deceit. Truly the household of the wicked need purifying; but the households of the righteous are acceptable.
18:2 - A fool has no delight in wisdom, because his mind DEVISES folly.
29:9 - A wise man contends with a fool, and when he is angry, he laughs and does not scoff
geolocateu 1 month ago
@geolocateu You say these words, but the revolutions and failure of Democracy in the Middle East Arab Nations shows who is the foolish ones and who has not wisdom, The American Nation is built on the principles of Christ Jesus, not on Mohammed. America stands as the richest strongest nation in world history, I do not see where our Wisdom lacks anything, but in Islamic Lands the people are in beguilement, confused and unable to reform their ways and are moving to total war and destruction
CarmineFragione 1 month ago
John 9: 35-41 Jesus permits the healed blind man, who now could see Jesus, who had healed him. Jesus permitted the man to bow before him and worship Jesus, Jesus did not take the moment to say "don't worship me, worship God" The man here worshiped Jesus, it says so. And so the chapter 9 is about Spiritual Blindness, The man was now able to see that God came in the flesh, because only God could heal a man who was born blind, and Jesus did not deny the man who had bowed to worship Him.
CarmineFragione 1 month ago
The same one human "being" as a material form, can decide to write a story and then play out the story on a stage by himself. Now, the Author who becomes the Sole Actor on his own Stage, He simply puts on a costume, changes his voice, or even wears a mask, and plays out the essential parts of the main characters as needed, The Audience does not object to this, they understand. Ancient Story Teller had Authority to speak as God, to speak about God, and speak for the people, Trinity.
CarmineFragione 1 month ago
What is INFINITE includes every moment of time and space, by which God has power to select any place at any time, by way of the Thought coming out of God's Mind, to cause anything to appear. So the Father thinks of the Son , and so then out of the Infinite Mind of God, comes the Word of God, which is forever attached to all of God's Mind, at all times, but appears to the people for a Revelation. Jesus is God , God decided to show the people He can be Father, Son, Holy Ghost at any time
CarmineFragione 1 month ago
2timothy 3;16 says all scripture if from god has to fit into 1 of 4 points given. so the verse that says samson went to gaza and saw a whore, he had sex with her. so tell me wer does this fit into the bibles own test of 2timothy 3;16 . if you cnt try porn.
mrlogicalman1 1 month ago
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@mrlogicalman1 10 steps to become a bhenchod musalman(slumpig)
1.Wear used CONDOM as a cap on head
2.Worship a 'goat fucker'
3.Worship pubic hair of hazarat
4.marry multiple women n open a brothel for them
5.molest 6 Yr girl
6.Drink camel urine n eat intestine of SWINE
7.Fry n eat testis of goat n pollute an air n ur stomoch both
8.Get married with wife of ur son(Daughter-in-law)
9.never try to talk english..otherwise ppl laugh their head off
NaPakAsstani 1 month ago
I love how he stretches and bends over to prove Quran is right. Wonder what it would look like if someone tried to prove that Red Riding Hood is the word of god. I bet quite similarly.
yarpen800 1 month ago
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Brothers, google 'Son of Hamas leader converts to christianity'
mathewkm1973 1 month ago
A sole Author of a Story , can also be the sole Actor, who sets up his own stage, and then he goes on stage before the audience playing all necessary parts of many persons of interest. He wears one costume and a mask and plays that part, Then,he changes his appearance, wears another mask and plays that part- he has a Divine Power of the Mind, which can be in Unity or Diversity ,Transforming the Behavior of the only Actor present, into the essential characters TRINITY Father Son, Holy Spirit
CarmineFragione 1 month ago
Peace - I was thinking about your many rambling posts...and my daily study led me to the following verses found in the New Testament. Please accept the scriptures with an open heart.
Stay away from ungodly babbling because it will only lead deeper into a godless lifestyle” -- 2 Timothy 2:16
"Some speakers have something to say; others feel they have to say something." --
Luke 12:12
I wish you the best...
ma'salaama
geolocateu 1 month ago
@geolocateu John 9: 35 to 41 Jesus talks about Spiritual Blindness. Now the blind man since birth was healed by Jesus, and when Jesus revealed to the blind man who Jesus was, the blind man bowed face down to the ground before Jesus and Worshiped Him. That is the Scripture you can go read it for yourself, Don't believe me, Jesus did not tell the man he was wrong then to worship Jesus. Jesus is God, God came in the flesh, you just can't believe God can do this, you do not know God.
CarmineFragione 1 month ago
@geolocateu Your view of God as Infinite is confused on the point of issue that what is then Infinite, you claim cannot then appear at Will in any objective way in the Finite. The Finite Issue of the Object is then always part of the overall Infinite Power of God, since every thought of God becomes the object appearing. Jesus is called the Word of God, The Word of God is Eternal, so Jesus as the Word of God must be Eternal as is God, since both have the same Title "Word of God" 3=1
CarmineFragione 1 month ago
We Catholics still have the Upper Hand, We have the True Faith and we understand the Theology of God, The Trinity is how the Bible is spoken aloud, by the Ancient Story Teller, in Three Person Tenses of speech , The Teacher is Messiah , who speaks about the Father , who speaks of Himself and gives Voices to every soul in the Bible so that the lives of the People written therein come alive ,through the Divine Act of the Messiah ,the High Priest of Yahweh is One, Father, Son, Holy Ghost
CarmineFragione 1 month ago
In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. says the First Verse of Torah , So God is being referred to, by the Narrator, so that is Two Person Tenses of Speech , for those who need an education in English and Story Telling. God is Divine, so that One Mouth of the Teacher who speaks the Torah , has spoken for God in the First Person Tense, spoken about God in the Second Person Tense, and spoken for the People, acting out many parts with many voices in the Minions . TRINITY
CarmineFragione 1 month ago
The Bible opens Genesis 1:1 with the Narrator acting as the Second Person Tense of Speech ,for He is the Teacher, who speaks of God the First Person of Interest, saying " In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth" Torah is the Eternal Word, it always was, so that God was in the Act of Three Persons of Speech to speak out the Torah, The Narrator speaks in the Second Person Tense, God comes in an speaks as Himself in the First Person Tense with quotes, and the Spirit is the Third.
CarmineFragione 1 month ago
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So Elohim refers to All, everything that is of the Mind of God , exhaustively , collectively all in all that is the Mystery of God who has a Mind, God who is Alive and Thoughtful, who thinks and the thought turns by Mystery into an Object Appearing. When God thought to appear to Israel as the Divine Messiah , God evokes His Thought of His Son, what God the Invisible projects out of Himself and His Name, to be the Objective Appearing Messiah, Jesus Christ, is God's Mind in the Act.
CarmineFragione 1 month ago
So Elohim refers to All, everything that is of the Mind of God , exhaustively , collectively all in all that is the Mystery of God who has a Mind, God who is Alive and Thoughtful, who thinks and the thought turns by Mystery into an Object Appearing. When God thought to appear to Israel as the Divine Messiah , God evokes His Thought of His Son, what God the Invisible projects out of Himself and His Name, to be the Objective Appearing Messiah, Jesus Christ, is God's Mind in the Act.
CarmineFragione 1 month ago
So Elohim refers to All, everything that is of the Mind of God , exhaustively , collectively all in all that is the Mystery of God who has a Mind, God who is Alive and Thoughtful, who thinks and the thought turns by Mystery into an Object Appearing. When God thought to appear to Israel as the Divine Messiah , God evokes His Thought of His Son, what God the Invisible projects out of Himself and His Name, to be the Objective Appearing Messiah, Jesus Christ, is God's Mind in the Act.
CarmineFragione 1 month ago
The Hebrew Ellah, is taken by the Muslims to afflict the Name of God EL to change it according to the Arabic Custom Ellah is then changed or altered to say ":ALLAH" The change of the E to the A has a meaning only to the Arabic Language, that does not mean anything at all to the Jews or Christians. Elohim is about Invisible Creator God who has a Mind full of Angels and Heavenly Things , collectively , but out of the Collective of Elohim, came the Yahweh Personal Messiah , the Son of God
CarmineFragione 1 month ago
When God was acting as the Creator God, His Hebrew Name is El or in the plural Majesty of God and the Angels etc. taken all together , God and His Works, Elohim is the Name of God, But When God promised Abraham to come down to Earth in the Holocaust and appear to Abraham, this was a Personal Appearance of God, where God moves from being Invisible Elohim, to a Visible Personal God YAHWEH " I am" can be God speaking out of a Tree, a Mountain or out of Moses' own mouth , the Priest
CarmineFragione 1 month ago
@CarmineFragione We are done! You are a babbler... and lack integrity.
geolocateu 1 month ago
@geolocateu
CarmineFragione 1 month ago
@geolocateu I may lack integrity, but because Jesus lives, I have Faith.
CarmineFragione 1 month ago
All Muslims can be saved, by coming to Jesus and accepting that God appeared in the Person of Jesus Christ in the Mystery of God. God is One Being, by His own Mind and Power, able to appear coming forth out of His MInd, to be appearing to us as the Father, to be appearing to us as the Son, to be appearing to us as the Holy Ghost. God has this Power to Act and Behave , out of One Being the Important Titles and Roles of Three Persons, He is Father, He is Son of God, He is Holy Spirit
CarmineFragione 1 month ago
EL the Head of Elohim, the Plural Majesty of God, the Creator and His Heavenly Court , all in One Name, Yahweh, "I AM" gave to the Jews a Religion by which God Authorized, by His Jurisdiction in the Law of Moses, to be Appearing on Earth in the Way so men could see with their eyes , God, and hear with their own ears. God . And so, in the Fullness of Times, God came in the flesh as Jesus Christ, the High Priest of Yahweh, The Levite Messiah, who is Himself God Emanuel Jesus is God
CarmineFragione 1 month ago
The Muslims can talk about Jesus ,yes, and they do talk about Jesus. But Jesus appears within the Church as a Body of Christ, The Holy Spirit is God, a Special Outpouring of God's Grace, covers the Church of Christ. The People are all filled by the Name of Jesus and Worship God in the Name of Jesus, which Name Jesus, is God's Name "YESHUA" Hear O Israel, Yahweh, our Elohim, Yahweh is One, That Name "Yahweh" revealed as "Yahweh is Savior" that is Yeshua, or Jesus, is the Name of God EL
CarmineFragione 1 month ago
Now the Muslims have built beautiful Mosques, that is true, but not in any one of them, has the Living Christ Jesus appeared. The Muslims swear , Jesus is alive, and so Jesus is able to appear anywhere, but Jesus has not appeared in any Mosque. The question is why ? Jesus taught in the Temple of Solomon, On Mount Moriah in Jerusalem, and Jesus said He would give His Name Jesus to the Church , who have built a House for God's Name Jesus, and so Jesus is always among the Christians.
CarmineFragione 1 month ago
God has no need to make of Himself to be "Logical" God is not the subject of Quarrels and Debates. God has His own Pleasure, seeing God is the King of Kings, and Lord of Lords, what He Wills, that becomes so ,What He destroys, that is destroyed, What He Forgives ,that is forgiven. And God only permitted One People in the whole History of Humanity to give a Teaching and explain who and what God is, and that was given to Israel, and Jesus is the High Priest Messiah of Israel, He is God.
CarmineFragione 1 month ago
As long as the Muslims reject the need of the Priestly Messiah King, Jesus, and continue to claim they can approach God Almighty by themselves bowing five times a day , they will not understand that God has deliberately never appeared to a single Muslim, not once. Why ? Because God chose the Israelites to make a Revelation of God appearing in the World, so as to Define God One Way , and not permit God to be seen in various eyes and ways of other peoples. God only is known by the Bible
CarmineFragione 1 month ago
You clearly don't know anything about anyone beyond your own backyard. You are arrogant in your ignorance.
geolocateu 1 month ago
Say a man is the Teacher in the class, and the class has thirty students. In the eyes of the students the Teacher may "APPEAR" as slightly a different person, because they all see with their own eyes.The Muslims see God through eyes of the Arabians, which is fine for them, and they have every right to see with their own eyes. but the Muslims do not see God as we Christians see God, God is the One, but our view of God is by the Eyes of Jesus Christ. We see God inside the Person of Christ
CarmineFragione 1 month ago
Regardless of what Jesus physically looked like, no matter what color of skin or nose, if Jesus has the Mind of God, and walks forever with never ever the slightest Sin or Quarrel to make with God, then Jesus and God has been Married into Oneness. they are the same Mind, the Mind of God in Heaven is thinking and the Mind of Jesus is thinking, and the thoughts are exactly the same, night or day forever, without ever being in disagreement , they are One, So Jesus is God with All POWER.
CarmineFragione 1 month ago
Being Godly is not about going to Church or Temple, saying prayers five times a day , and wearing a hat. Being Godly is giving up your mortal mind by it's natural instinct for hunger, thirst, lust, fear, violence, etc. to give over all that Mortality, to God, and ask God to place into your brain the very Mind of Christ, Only God has POWER to take out your old behavior and way of thinking, and put into you the Mind of Jesus Christ, Obeying the Law is not about Religion, it is CHARACTER
CarmineFragione 1 month ago
How does the man become Changed inside his brain and mind, that he never again thinks of any sin or evil thoughts, but always is loving , generous, forgiving, helping others, and never spits or hates or wishes to curse another man , no matter how rotten the other man has behaved ? How does that Transformation occur in the brain of a man ? It cannot be learned by Religious Attendance. It is then a Gift of God through accepting Jesus Christ as Savior, you change because God does it Himself
CarmineFragione 1 month ago
As long as the natural man can see God's Law , concerning his personal conduct and way of thinking, on the one hand, but in the mind of the man , no matter how religious and attentive to Ritual Prayers or Sabbath Observances, he constantly has another mind to argue and dispute with God the inner way of thinking, so that the man has not his whole heart to walk with God fully, but keeps pulling back , trying to find another way to go , quarreling with God, and so Religion does not save any man.
CarmineFragione 1 month ago
The Law of God was Given as the Issue of God's Mind, by God's Finger, was it written on Stone, and then Moses took the Law and wrote it upon a Lambskin, Scrolls. saying it was not finished by either being written on stone or leather, but it had to be written in the Hearts of Human Beings, as such the Law comes without thinking, it lives as the Inner Nature of the Natural Man, who then never thinks to behave another way , and the man who attains the Law in his flesh , He is Equal to God
CarmineFragione 1 month ago
Jesus Christ not only Speaks the Law as Authoritative. but He Himself is the Law Itself appearing as a Person of God, Jesus is the Law Himself, He is the Sovereign King of Kings, and the High Priest of Melchizedek Forever, from before Time to after Time, Eternally Present in God, the Person of Messiah, is in the Mind of God forever, as One Being, and so what Jesus pleases to do and judge, That is the Way it shall forever be so, whatever Jesus says, That is become Eternally the Law
CarmineFragione 1 month ago
Psalms 110:4 " Adonai has Sworn and will not change his mind, "You are a PRIEST forever ,in the Order of Melchizedek" Mohammed is dead, so Mohammed cannot be this Priest of God who lives forever and yet lives now, and is then, from Eternity before to Eternity hereafter, Alive and Acting as the High Priest Messiah . Only Jesus has Authority of God over Mankind. Only Jesus is Salvation , Only Jesus can Speak the Law and Make it so ! Whatever Jesus says, that saying has become the Law
CarmineFragione 1 month ago
Jesus Christ in the Bible quotes Moses, Jesus quotes Abraham. Jesus quotes Jeremiah and the other Jewish Prophets, in many places Jesus goes into length to quote the Psalms written by David. all in the Bible, Jesus never quotes anything from the Koran . Put the Koran away and read the Bible and see how Jesus teaches from the Hebrew Bible and Quotes the Patriarchs of the Bible, but never teaches any sayings from the Koran , Not one teaching, not one Parable taken from Mohammed's wisdom
CarmineFragione 1 month ago
A human being has two natures. one is created, and one is Imparted out of God, so that some portion of the human being is carrying something of God inside that was not created, and so the human being is not simply a "Creature" like other animals. In your case, as a sinner, you have a Fallen Nature , that Sins against God's Spirit that needs Salvation. Jesus Christ is the Body God gave that is Filled with the Holy Spirit and has no Sin , Jesus never Sinned, He is Purely Wholly GOD.
CarmineFragione 1 month ago
When the men came to arrest Jesus and Jesus said " I AM HE" The men who came to arrest Jesus, all fell back , as dead. What the Muslims do not know about the Bible is that the High Priest, in the Tradition beginning with Moses, had the El Shaddai God come as a FIRE WRATH SPIRIT, into the body , and the Priest would speak out loud " I AM" meaning that is the signal God has come into the Priest and now it is not a man speaking, but God has taken over the flesh and God is speaking
CarmineFragione 1 month ago
The Muslims fail , because they come far enough to admit Jesus Christ is the Word of God, But when challenged to think, the Muslims fall apart. They cannot imagine how the Word of God became flesh, They miss the Entire Bible's Teaching on the Sacred Priesthood of Yahweh . How the Ellah the Invisible Elohim Spirit Creator, becomes for Israel a Personally Appearing Savior, the Yahweh "I Am" which is the Utterance of the Priest out of His mouth to signal the People, that God came into Him.
CarmineFragione 1 month ago
Jesus Christ is the Incarnation of God Yahweh ,the Creator by His Spirit, which Jesus once described as the "Finger of God" So God is Sufficient to appear and surround the entire Universe and so Govern as Sovereign God, and God has the Power to poke His Finger into the world , Sufficient for us to see something Divinely of God appearing directly to us, using the material world as the Coverings. Jesus' body is like a Tent, or the Shepherd wearing Wool and Sheepskins, to conceal who He is.
CarmineFragione 1 month ago
In John 9:16 a healed man bows down to Jesus Christ and Worshiped Him as one who worships God. Jesus did not deny the man, or stop the man from doing so. Because the relationship of the Priest to God, is the body of the Priest is given to God as God's own body , whenever God wishes to Possess the Body of the Priest, and so by Worshiping Jesus, one is Worshiping God who appears through the Priest to people , directly, face to face, God is behind the Face of Jesus, Indwelling is God.
CarmineFragione 1 month ago
What is the Priesthood ? The Ancient Story Teller, had a Divine Talent to speak for all parties appearing in the story, so the Priest would be Transformative. The Priest as the Story Teller, when he speaks for the People in the story , the Priest has the Divine Power to become those people and play out their parts in the story , making separate voices come out of the Priest's mouth. When the Priest speaks for God, God comes through the mouth of the Priest , with a Holy Voice, that is God
CarmineFragione 1 month ago
Jesus as the Son of God, giving Himself Body and Mind over to God the Father, permits God the Father to Personally Appear on Earth as God. God the Father was Inside the body of Jesus the Son of God, They were so unified in Spirit, they had no separate or private life away from each ,the Father held the life of Jesus, intimately. This is what the Priesthood is about , what is the Mystery of God appearing in the Priest, Mohammed was never a Priest of Yahweh God, Follow Jesus only, He is God
CarmineFragione 1 month ago
The Trinity was coined to help us understand that the Invisible God Yahweh was appearing in various Ways, using Persons, into whom God gave Himself Power to visibly appear, and this is analogous to a man who lives in the Tent, the man who lives in the House, The House then holds the man, thus the Invisible God, who cannot be seen , can then enter a Dwelling Place, be it a Tree, Mountain, House or a human body and so appear and act out according to the thoughts of God's Mind,= Jesus Christ
CarmineFragione 1 month ago
A single Actor is One Being, Materially, but having a Mind, can Impersonate Three Persons by the Will of the Mind able to separate the Characters and decide when and where to Act out the Three Persons , the One Being, the Actor, on His Stage , wears one costume and a mask and appears as a special Person , but then changes His Costume, wears another mask and then Acts out the character of yet another Person, but all this Persons exist in the Mind of the Actor who is One Being. Trinity.
CarmineFragione 1 month ago
As Saint Paul the Apostle taught us Christians, that anyone who comes to teach about God but denies that God came in the flesh is denying the High Priesthood of the Anointed Messiah . The whole concept of Messiah is God chooses one Son of God, to enter that body and so by this Way of Indwelling the Son ,the Father is able to move the mouth of the Priest and declare the Word of God, in Person . God is One Being, but is able to Behave as a Father, as a Son , as the Holy Spirit, 3 Persons.
CarmineFragione 1 month ago
The Priesthood of Christ means everything to the Catholic Faith , God who is Invisible, yet have power to cohabit and enter the dwelling space of the human mind and have Communion with a man in the man's mind. Christ brings God directly into the man , because Christ is the Priest, and the Concept of the Priest is that the Priest is a Sacred Vessel on Earth , within the flesh , God has the Way to operate and appear on Earth through the arms and legs and the eyes and mouth of the Priest.
CarmineFragione 1 month ago
To the Koran's God, that God never appears in the world, The God of Koran never speaks to any man. The God of the Koran never appears to any man. The God of the Koran never comes inside the mind and body of any man to live in the Tent with the man, who lives in the Tent of Flesh and Blood. The God of the Bible is a Covenant God who appears to the man , who speaks directly to the man , and the God who enters the flesh and blood Tent or Tabernacle of the man as the Father, within.
CarmineFragione 1 month ago
God was literally inside the body of Jesus Christ, God was never inside the body of Mohammed, So to Mohammed, God was never seen or heard, but with Jesus, Jesus said the Father literally was inside His own body and in his Mind, that God was the Active Power inside the body of Jesus Christ causing Jesus to appear and speak and act. The God of Jesus is an Indwelling Spirit, the God of Mohammed is a distant message given only by an Angel in the Cave. Big Difference. Follow Jesus.
CarmineFragione 1 month ago
@CarmineFragione - peace... it would be better for you to actually study the Qur'an for yourself. There is no compulsion...pray before you read it asking for understanding and discernment.
please read Psalm 82:6...
geolocateu 1 month ago
@geolocateu Psalms 110 "The Lord Adonai says to my Lord Adonai" God has a Divine Mind, where in God can have a thought of His Behavior, in His Mind, but also have another thought of Himself, in His Mind and so God is Transformative, able to appear one way to one man, for a Reason of God's Sovereign Pleasure, and then God has another Mind to reveal Himself to another man, that each man sees a different Person coming out of God's Mind, Jesus is God to the People, Divine Messiah.
CarmineFragione 1 month ago
@geolocateu Psalms 82:6 proves the Islamic idea of a man being fully a "Creature" is a false belief. We have a flesh part that God made up of the dust, yes, But if you read Genesis 2, you see that God then takes the man of dust, and God BREATHES God's own breath of Life into the body , that the man is a Soul. So you cannot say a man is simply a "Creature" that is false, part is created, and part is a Gift coming out of God's own Being, Jesus is fully God, while you are partly god
CarmineFragione 1 month ago
@CarmineFragione - Peace to you.. Why do you try and put words in my mouth. This 'creature' is nonsense.
Considering what you have written on this topic it is obvious you have NEVER read the Qur'an. I suggest you do something courageous like visiting a masjid (mosque) in local community, or ask a Muslim to help you understand.
I am not certain English is your first language. What is your mother tongue? Perhaps we can can converse better in another language.
peace
geolocateu 1 month ago
@geolocateu Jesus never entered a Mosque, Jesus did enter Synagogues and Jesus did teach daily in the Colonnades of Solomon in the Temple of Jerusalem. If you did believe in the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, you would say let's take away the Mosque from the Temple Mount and build the House of God that Yahweh God asked for, the Temple of Solomon. Now, God is One Being, but between you and me, God appears and looks different, maybe it is your eyes.
CarmineFragione 1 month ago
@CarmineFragione - Either you need a history lesson (with proper timeline) or you are trying to be funny. Say what you mean, and mean what you say.
Synagogue is a Greek word. Yeshu - pbuh spoke a localized dialect of Aramaic, thus he would most like have used the words beit tefilah (house of prayer), or referred to the place where the council of elders (Sanhedirn) met as "beit k'nesset"
cont.
geolocateu 1 month ago
@geolocateu YESHUA is the Hebrew Leavened Name of the Priestly Messiah King. The Name of God YAHWEH, or YHWH has no Vowels , it is written as only the Consonant Letters, and so God an Increase the Meaning of His own Name, according to how God is appearing and behaving in the Act of doing whatever God wills to do, God willed to be Father to us, but God is not a "Father" Father is a Title for anyone who is a Person who does a job of raising children, Father is a Title, like King
CarmineFragione 1 month ago
@CarmineFragione - Are you on medication? You need a history lesson.
You wrote
(0) You wrote: "Yahweh, god well for once you are correct - ya huwa eloh'im (oh, he is my god)
(1) "Now, God is One Being." Do you believe god is a being (something created)?
(2) "God appears and looks different." Do you claim to have personally seen god?
(2a) "Do you have images (idols, and graven images) representative of Yeshu/Jesus - pbuh on your wall?
For you to answer to yourself.
geolocateu 1 month ago
@geoloca The God who is then Acting out upon His Sovereign Mind's Thoughts, He is acting as the Father who Thinks and as God thinks the Son of God appears materially as the Objective of God, to appear, by the Word of God, Jesus is the Word of God made flesh , the meaning here is wrapped up in the minutia of Moses' Law for the Levitical Priesthood ,and gives moreso to God the Priesthood of Melchizedek which made God appear to Abraham in the flesh and eat dairy and meat, being above the Law.
CarmineFragione 1 month ago
@geolocateu Before you read the Koran, ask yourself, "How does Mohammed have God speaking in the Koran, as if God spoke to Mohammed, and then you find out that Mohammed never ever once heard God's Voice speaking to him or any other person that Mohammed knew. Mohammed heard a spirit or angel, speaking to him in the cave, and never knew if that was truly sent by God. So, before you read the Koran , how do you know that this is not faked by wise men, pretending to speak as gods.???
CarmineFragione 1 month ago
@geolocateu Ask yourself also, why is it that Jesus Christ never quoted any substantial sayings from the Koran ? In the Bible Jesus speaks at length many parables and teachings but never once word for word goes to reciting any prayers in the Koran or quoting the Koran or the Hadiths or any such Arabic Prayers or Wisdoms that were supposedly written by Abraham, ? Not once does Jesus recite the Koran in the Bible, so Jesus had no knowledge of who or what the Koran was written about.
CarmineFragione 1 month ago
Mohammed was never a Priest, Mohammed never saw God, never heard God, never had God enter his own human body as a Divine Presence. Jesus is God, because God indwelt the flesh and blood of Jesus, by the terms of Moses' Law giving a Way for God to appear among the People, where God Elohim the Invisible, sends the Holy Spirit, "Shekinah" to appear out of Heaven , enter the Priest and the Priest begins to move around, as God is inside the body ,causing the mouth to speak the Word.
CarmineFragione 1 month ago
That is the difference, the Christian sees God indwelling the body of Jesus , because in the Tradition of the Bible , Jesus is a Sacred Vessel, and in the body is God's Holy Spirit. Thus the Father is present within the Son , because this is the Terms of the High Priesthood of Yahweh , Where God comes from Invisible Heaven , to appear within the flesh and blood of the Anointed Messiah Priest. The Priest then gives His Body to God, so that God comes in the flesh to speak directly to the people
CarmineFragione 1 month ago
In John 9:16 Jesus reveals to a man whom Jesus had healed, that Jesus is the Son of Man, which in Ancient Judaism does not mean Jesus was an ordinary man, but that Jesus was a Levite Priest , like Moses, a Man, in whom is the Spirit of God Indwelling Him. So the man finding out Jesus is Messiah , the man in the scripture of John 9:16 bows down to Jesus and "Worshiped Him" Jesus then accepts Worship, because in Him, is the Spirit of God equally Present, which is about God's Priest.
CarmineFragione 1 month ago
@CarmineFragione - there is a major difference between referring to oneself as 'bar-nasha' and 'bar-dalaha'
'bar-nasha' - bar=son, nasha=man - Aramaic way of saying "human being" - this is the words used by Yeshu - pbuh throughout the gospels (in the Aramaic)
'bar-dalaha' - bar=son, dalaha (d-alaha/god) - Aramaic way of saying "son of allah(god). It refers to someones likeness (image) to god in spirit as evidence by their loving attitude, behavior, character in relationship with allah (swt).
geolocateu 1 month ago
Anyone who says to me, "The Bible was once the Word of God, but men changed the Bible" that is impossible to say. If God be God and thus, If the Bible began as the Holy Scripture, then God is the Judge over the Bible, not the Muslims, The Muslims have no say to claim the Bible does not report the Mind of God, but only God can speak about the Bible. The Bible says the only Prophets of God came of the Jews, From Abraham to Isaac to Jacob , to Moses and Joshua, to David and Solomon
CarmineFragione 1 month ago
when the Muslims say there is no Ellah, but "ALLAH" They are speaking two different names of God, they say first "There is no ELLAH" So they repudiate the Name of God that is Hebrew the EL tradition of calling God by the Name ELLAH. So they say now that there is no ELLAH , BUT !!! there is ALLAH ! So they make a new idea of God by their belief about God's BEHAVIOR, in their view, their God behaves differently than the ELLAH of the Jews, Elohim or El is Hebrew.
CarmineFragione 1 month ago
@CarmineFragione - Peace...what you said is not true. Aramaic, Hebrew, and Arabic all belong to the same language family. The language family is the Afro-Asiatic family of languages, within the Semitic branch. Each of the 3 languages words are created by combining 3 to 4 consonants. The addition of vowels are recent to these language. Regardless...el oha, al aha, al alah has the same meaning in all 3 languages. Do not make the mistake of assuming your can make sense without knowing languages.
geolocateu 1 month ago
@geolocateu Do you believe the Bible is the Word of God that God as God is able to send the Bible as His Word and that it does accurately reveal the Mind of God ? Or do you say the Bible is not of God, that the Koran is equal to God as the Word, and so this boils down to one who says the Mind of God is in the Bible and another who says no, the Mind of God is in the Koran, so it ends up that each has One God, but that God is two different Gods, judging by the message in the Holy Writ.
CarmineFragione 1 month ago
@CarmineFragione - as salaam alyakum. I start by stating, "la ilaha illallah
Yes, I believe without questions in the message/teaching of Yeshu/Isa (Jesus), il mesih (messiah) - pbuh.
No need for convoluted questions. There is only one god - Allah (in semitic languages) whom sent many messengers to mankind throughout human history. The last being Muhammad - pbuh
1/x - without understanding language (semitic) / you cannot understand cultural idioms and parable - the root of your confusion.
geolocateu 1 month ago
hello sir, there is no word called ALLAH OR MOHAMMAD IN BIBLE.. now why should christians blieve allah..???
rhyme539 1 month ago
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let me use a simile to explain this.The father is the sun,jesus is the sunlight, the holy spirit is the power and effect .The sun is too hot to get close (the father's holiness),but we can feel and know him by jesus he sent to us (the light),so there are no errors in the bible.
Nubild 1 month ago
hitler and devil are angels compared to bible god look at this; he orders mums cut open and ther unborn killed, has women raped infront of families, has animals and BABIES smashed on rocks ect ect these war crimes are unbelievably evil even devil never did this xtians say god did this its in the bible. they cant lie this time
mrlogicalman1 2 months ago
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KORAN STRONGER THAN BIBLE
VED STRONGER THAN KORAN
BHAGAVAD GITA STRONGER THAN VED
VED IS FOR SANATHAN DHARMA, THE EARLIER CRUDE VERSION OF HINDUISM, NOT HINDUISM AS WE KNOW TODAY.
BHAGAVAD GITA FOR HINDUISM TODAY.
BHAGAVAD GITA SAYS PERSON ARE ALL EQUAL WHEREAS VED CLASSIFIES PEOPLE DEPENDING AMONG THEIR ACTIVITIES IN SOCIETY.
AshishKiGandMaro 2 months ago
You Poor Zakir Naik... You might have read the Bible... But the Truth is not revealed to you... If you would have got the Truth then you will heal the People who are sick, You will console the Heart which is Hurt... Anyone can speak anything from the Stage... But when it comes to the reality(Action), You will understand that You have not understood enough... If you wanna know the Power of our Lord Jesus Christ, Please watch All the videos Pastor Chris... Especially His Healing Miracles Video
wiltubesonfrancis 2 months ago
@wiltubesonfrancis You know all atheist would just laugh at your statement.
You have to evidence to proof your religon my friend otherwhise you dont have any rights to talk. If Zakir Nakir can attack your religon that easy i think your religon has to be false or corrupted.
Lizzio1980 1 month ago
@Lizzio1980 Hi Friend... Thank you for your Comment... I would like to know, Are you an Atheist or Muslim? You need a Proof Right? Kindly Type "Pastor Chris Power In The Name of Jesus.wmv" and watch the video and its parts 2,3,4,so on... Then kindly reply your valuable answer to me... Take care.. God Loves You with an Everlasting Love. Start believing Him to have an everlasting Life... God Bless You...
wiltubesonfrancis 1 month ago
@wiltubesonfrancis My friend a pastor or a priest who does mircales in jesus(pbuh) name are not proof.
I dont belief in people doing wonders except if they are prophets or messengers.
i rather call them devils.
Jesus(pbuh) himself said in the bible there will be many false people who will do mircales in my name.
Lizzio1980 1 month ago
@Lizzio1980 See, Friend We can say anything about anyone. You simply don't quote anything without knowing the context. First you read the Context. More over have a open mind to the Discussion. Don't kindly stick into what you knew it already. We will have a healthy Discussion.
wiltubesonfrancis 1 month ago
@wiltubesonfrancis I didn't meant to offend you but i belief that a human person cannot do miracles only if they are given the power by god and are prophets or messengers. As i myself belief that mohammed(saws) is the last prophet/messenger when he followed up jesus(pbuh)
As i am worried about the anti-christ and people doing mircales in jesus(pbuh) name read: [Matt. 7:21-23]
My friend i do read context's i like to read
Lizzio1980 1 month ago
@Lizzio1980 Dear Friend, It is Jesus who has given the authority to do so, for Eg: Matthew 10:8
Heal the sick, raise the dead, cleanse those who have leprosy, drive out demons. Freely you have received; freely give. Luke 9:2
and he sent them out to proclaim the kingdom of God and to heal the sick. Luke 10:9
Heal the sick who are there and tell them, ‘The kingdom of God has come near to you.’
wiltubesonfrancis 1 month ago
@wiltubesonfrancis Jesus(pbuh) claims that he couldn't do nothing without the premisson of the father/god: John 5:30
John 12:49, John 12:50, John 8:28, John 6:38, John 20:17, and there are so many more.
Be reasonable and think about this: How can three persons be one person when a person means by definition individual mind/soul, don't try to explain it with feelings or material items.. because person means by definition INDIVIDUAL MIND/SOUL so three of them cant be one!
Lizzio1980 1 month ago
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@Lizzio1980 My Friend, I think you are bit confused about what I have said to you. No Problem, see, Jumping to the new topic is not good for the healthy Discussion, So try answer to the question that I have asked in my previous messages. And then Kindly watch this video in You tube by typing " pastor chris: Do christian and muslim worship the same God? ". Then kindly please reply me. Take care... God bless you.
wiltubesonfrancis 1 month ago
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@Lizzio1980 Could you please kindly answer to the question I asked in my previous reply to you. was about the proof and Do you believe Jesus will come again to earth near the day of judgment to restore justice? And do you believe in His Teachings...? Kindly reply to this.
wiltubesonfrancis 1 month ago
@Lizzio1980 If you read the Bible from Matt 5, Jesus has just started His First Speech to the people. So from Matt chapter 5 to 7, His speech is continued with a stop. It is later we who have split-ted the chapters. So people are hear His name for the first time. So, kindly change your statement "As i am worried about the anti-christ and people doing mircales in jesus(pbuh) name read: [Matt. 7:21-23]" Jesus name were not used in the context you wrote... Fine, Its good that it gets Hot.. see U.
wiltubesonfrancis 1 month ago
@wiltubesonfrancis Uh i am confused that you started about the divinity of jesus(pbuh) when i was talking about people doing mircales, i don't even need to quote verses to make my point about the trinity or jesus(pbuh) being a prophet/messenger i can just use logic and reason but i can do both if wanted (just send me a personal message)
Warnings of ''bad people, prophets and so called miracle people can be found in Matthew 7 read the whole chapter.
Lizzio1980 1 month ago
@wiltubesonfrancis Mircales are no sign of being a prophet or a good man: (Matthew 24:24 RSV)
The real test to show if the man is from god(messenger/prophet) is this: (Matthew 7:15-23 RSV)
As you can read by the fruits you should know them, Mohammed(saws) couldn't do any miracles like John the Baptist but he made a whole community of people ''1,5bil'' Muslims believing in jesus(pbuh) and in One-God while following the commandments and laws with simply words!
Lizzio1980 1 month ago
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@Lizzio1980 If you don't believe in Miracles, it is not worthy to be a Person who believes in Awesome and Miraculous God. So, by the way that you write clearly depicts me that you are a Muslim. Well I love Muslims... You just tell me, What kind of Proof you need it? Do you believe Jesus will come again to earth near the day of judgment to restore justice? And do you believe in His Teachings...? If so, Kindly let me know it in your reply... Take care, God Bless You..
wiltubesonfrancis 1 month ago
This Naik fellow doesn't have the common curtousey to let the other person speak.
bakanagaijindesu 2 months ago
[Luke. 12:49] 'I CAME TO CAST FIRE UPON THE EARTH, AND WOULD THAT IT WERE ALREADY KINDLED.. DO YOU THINK THAT I HAVE COME TO GIVE PEACE ON EARTH? NO, I TELL YOU, BUT RATHER DIVISION; for from henceforth in one house there will be five divided, three against two, and two against three. They will be divided, father against son, and son against father, mother against daughter, and daughter against her mother. [said Jesus]!
asif4995 2 months ago
@asif4995 That was a prophecy that came true. People did kill over their beliefs, but Jesus strictly forebade such killing, unlike the pervert prophet who repeatedly ordered his followers to fight and kill anyone who refused to accept Islam. He also said that Islam would spit into 73 sects after his death (Dawuud) and he instructed his followers to kill any Muslim who caused disunity within Islam. It becomes clear why Muslims kill more Muslims than they kill others.
nedloh325 2 months ago
[Math. 10:34] "Do not think that I have come to make peace on earth? I HAVE NOT COME TO BRING PEACE, BUT A SWORD. "For I have come to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother." [said Jesus]!
asif4995 2 months ago
Leviticus 26:29 You will eat the flesh of your sons and the flesh of your daughters.
Numbers 21:35 So they struck him down, together with his sons and his whole army, leaving them no survivors. And they took possession of his land.
Numbers 31:31 So Moses and Eleazar the priest did as the LORD commanded Moses.
32 The plunder remaining from the spoils that the soldiers took was 675,000 sheep,
asif4995 2 months ago
Ezekiel 9:6 Slaughter old men, young men and maidens, women and children, but do not touch anyone who has the mark. Begin at my sanctuary." So they began with the elders who were in front of the temple.
asif4995 2 months ago
There is no substitute for direct teaching of Children, by Good Angels of God's Peace. To be taking care of Children, is never having to need to use any force or violence on the Children. Because if the mother and father are there everyday, to wash clean the children and teach the stories of wisdom to the children, the Children will not know the ways of anger and violence. It is never a natural thing for Children to hate anyone, but again , children should never ever be left alone unguarded.
CarmineFragione 2 months ago
When Children are growing up in family, where the man beats his wife and is abusive also to the children, the children become possessed of Evil Spirits, that the man by his Sinful Ways, has brought into the house. This is why people need Salvation, Evil has a way into the mind, where the people do not realize the power of corruption. If the Child is raised in Peace and Truth for the first Seven Years of Life, the Child will continue in this first teaching for the rest of his or her life
CarmineFragione 2 months ago
Bring all the Children to Jesus, Baptizing them in the Name of the Father, of the Son , of the Holy Ghost, the Name Lord Jesus Christ. This Name is given of God for all humanity to be Saved and has the Power of God's Holiness, to drive the Evil Spirits and the Devil away from the Children, That the Children shall grow in love and cleanness and family respects, having then the Natural Affection God has given by way of the calling of people to be Parents, being then as Guardian Angels.
CarmineFragione 2 months ago
If the child picks up evil spirits from the evil ways of their parents, they can behave as possessed of the Devil. They can become agitated, angry, rebellious , unloving, uncaring , unclean, stealing, swearing, cursing, without natural affection. This evil way is from the behavior of the parents or others who care for the children , which today commonly is called "Child Abuse" Evil Spirits can be Washed away in Baptism and Prayer and Peace, teaching Children, they shall be healed
CarmineFragione 2 months ago
"Cleanliness is next to Godliness" the Human Body is the host, the earthly tabernacle or Tent , within is given of God the Soul and Spirit. The Child is Innocent from Birth , but the flesh body must be washed clean daily, and every Evil thing, must be kept away from the Children, that they not learn to do evil. "Hear no Evil, Speak no Evil, See no Evil" Children should be kept very clean from the dirt and filth of the world, which Fallen Ways, teach bad things, such as Lust.
CarmineFragione 2 months ago
When America , a Christian Nation , finished the War on the Empire of Japan, the Japan Empire did many crimes and terrors. but the Americans did not wish to destroy all the people for their sins. They were forgiven, the blood of many dead, and in return America had laid waste the Nation of Japan, destroying many cities and lives. But then, the people following the Teachings of Christ, forgive Nations, and where they were deadly enemies, now they are allies and close friends.
CarmineFragione 2 months ago
Today there are many Muslims who hate the Jews, because they were taught to hate and they really believe their hatred is justified. But if they learn of God that they were taught lies about the Jews or about the Christians, or if Christians and Jews were taught lies about the Muslims, and they all realized they were being lied to, and things are not the way they seem. then they are ready to Meet Jesus and obtain Special Mercy of God to be Forgiven all Sins, no matter how bad they were.
CarmineFragione 2 months ago
The Evil man would never really believe in Jesus. He would never think to repent or desire to change or wish to. He might fool other human beings by his false acts of giving money or praying in public or speaking words meant to be said by a good man. No, his sins are never forgiven as long as he desires the Path of Evil day after day. But a man who comes to the Cross of Jesus, realizes God is God and the man must die, but now he asks God to be merciful and so God can forgive sins
CarmineFragione 2 months ago
Can a man think Evil, day after day , and use as an excuse Jesus died for his sins ? NO !!! Let's be serious, God gave Salvation to those seeking the Way of Salvation. Now the evil man is condemned, not because of what he does, but what he thinks in his mind, as he does those things condemns him. He cannot use Jesus as an excuse because his mind is yet evil in thoughts. Only the man who repents to believe in Jesus, will then think the right way as God gave and then sins are forgiven.
CarmineFragione 2 months ago
When a man has no choice, but to fight and kill or be killed, that is then not "Murder" What is Murder ? Murder is to lie in wait for a man, to kill him and easily steal his money, his property and his own people. So, your question is about questioning God Himself, God is prepared to forgive all sins, based on the Atonement Blood of Jesus Christ, If you commit a sin worthy of death , God has unleashed His Wrath upon Jesus, so that God will not be angry with you, and you can repent
CarmineFragione 2 months ago
We all know that it is wrong to kill, But Nations war against Nations and men are called upon to fight and kill other people. Which is forgivable and what is held against the man forever ? It goes to MOTIVE. It is not the overt act you do that God judges you by, It is what is going on in your mind that permits you to do it. Are you a soldier , or are your people held hostage by evil men ? Why do you do what you do ? God judges by the answer as to why you do it. God is Merciful
CarmineFragione 2 months ago
So a human being is hungry. Then the passion to eat, can be used as a good way that God is using to help the body live , or you can corrupt the desire to eat, as a passion out of control and then a false teaching to make you live the Evil Life. So, if eating one meal is good, then eating a hundred meals every day is abusive and sickening and thus Evil. To take what is in balance for the good of the body to teach the body to be Addicted and Abusive and Corrupted is Evil and Satanic.
CarmineFragione 2 months ago
@CarmineFragione It is not Dr. zakir fault if the professor doesnt have the knowledge, Let me remind you that some of Islam scholars do speaks hebrew and did the reserach of the bible contradictions, do you read the old testament in hebrew? Muslim not pick which are suit to the Quran rather analyze it with the logical manner. Learn hebrew and latin after that please do research then u can defend the bible base on knowledge, no need grumbling.
bima1979ol 2 months ago
@CarmineFragione Moslems recite and memorize Quran since the beginning of its time, in my country where i come from there are 600.000 hafidz and hafidza (men and women who memorize the whole chapter of the Quran) in that sense if somebody wanna make change or corrupt the contain of Quran, u have to be prepare to face them, this makes Quran will never end up like the bible. We got just 1 version of Quran, how many version of the bible u got?
bima1979ol 2 months ago
@bima1979ol Btw, to memorized the bible would not be problem to those who already memorize Quran. If the bible is so important to the Christian how come no one memorize the whole bible?
bima1979ol 2 months ago
What is the Trinity Way ? Three Person Tenses of Speech, permits the Author, who alone is the sole Actor, upon His own Stage. He wears a mask, or changes a costume, He has but One Mouth , but Many Voices come out of the One Mouth of God.So the Bible has a Speaker to orally tell the Bible's Story to the People, who sit around the Teacher and listen to One Priest,who says everything, speaking for God, for the various people in the stories, giving them life and a voice and speaks as Himself
CarmineFragione 2 months ago
The Bible was written for One Story Teller, to use One Mouth to speak the Word. But out of the mouth comes all Witnesses to speak their parts. In Genesis One, verse One, " In the Beginning God created the Heavens and the Earth" So here, God already, before Creation began, Divined within God, Father and Son, and so the Second Person is speaking of the First Person ,God the Creator. The Priest speaks for God, announcing God, as if God is some other person about to appear. Trinity.
CarmineFragione 2 months ago
The Being of God is One. God in the Most High Heaven is One, and there is nothing else in Heaven but God the Being One. But God Divined the World out of His Invisible Substance and Glory the Way the World is, is Separated from the Invisible God, yet the whole world is inside the Being of God, and God appears in various ways among us, and in the last times , God Almighty, appeared in a Temple of human flesh and blood, and so we, with our human eyes saw Him. With our ears, heard Him Speak.
CarmineFragione 2 months ago
Jesus is God, Jesus is God the Father, God the Son, God the Holy Spirit, Jesus is the flesh and blood of Mary's Seed, taken as the "Y" factor, made into a human body , and then God the Most High God Almighty, by His Finger, did God comes down through the Way of Creation to be found dwelling among us as Jesus . Jesus is God, God wrapped a human flesh body around like it was a garment. Inside Jesus, is the Unapproachable Light, the Invisible Yahweh Shekinah Glory, God Emanuel
CarmineFragione 2 months ago
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When one takes all the Bible , the Christian Faith is found to be the Truth of the entire Bible, not part . Islam only takes some portions of the Bible to make a case it is truth, and that means it is not true. Islam would have to justify it's teachings in light of the whole Bible,without a single exception ,and then one can decide if Islam is really based on the God of the Bible or on men's ideas they had privately about God, or about the Bible. It is all or nothing at all. 3=1
CarmineFragione 2 months ago
what do you mean none of us are good enough? why would god bother to make us then? why did his prophets say we can ? man can stop sins himself. what nonsence to say some1 else pays for your crimes. name one christian court of law in the world that runs on this philosophy? ive never heard such nonsense you do a crime and someone else an innocent pays for it? wheres your brain? why dont xtian courts practise what they preach? cos its ridiculous thats why......
mrlogicalman1 2 months ago
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Ibn Taymiyyah has a nice passage in one of his books showing that: "In fact, the kufr of Jews and Christians is because of "Bid'ah". They introduced new things into the religion and those things took them completely away from the true message of Musa (Moses) and Isaa (Jesus) Alaihumma Salam"
freewomenchooseislam 2 months ago