The GALAS 2009: Part 5 Gay Friendly Politician of the Year.

[DemocraticRight]

@CoirCampaign. It's good that you enjoy the small things in life. I'm happy for you.

[DemocraticRight]

@ CoirCampaign. You don't have a valid argument. If I were such a "chicken" why would I pubically admit to being unable to meet Karl face to face? Surely, I would have kept it a secret. But I didn't.

[CoirCampaign]

@DemocraticRight

Im not arguing Micko you twisted old bigot.. Im laughing, and to be honest laughter is enough for me. :-)

Carry on LOL

[DemocraticRight]

@CoirCampaign, it doesn't surprise me in the least that you're a Ritchie kavanah fan.

[DemocraticRight]

CoirCampaign, my little pet troll how have you been? I was actually getting worried as I thought the vet had put you out of your misery you poor thing.

[CoirCampaign]

@DemocraticRight

here... watch?v=mmdw0dB1nvM

[DemocraticRight]

Koudos to Karl for accepting my challenge to meet face to face as I have challenged many other people on You Tube to do likewise but ALL declined.

We had arranged to meet in Dublin today but due to a problem at my end it had to be cancelled. However,we did get to speak to each other for more than an hour and a half on the phone.

We discussed a number of issues some we agreed on and others we disagreed on but overall, it was in my opinion, an hour and a half well spent

[CoirCampaign]

@DemocraticRight

So you chicken out .... PUSSY LOL!

[DemocraticRight]

(2) In which I found Karl to be intellengt, articulate and a gentleman. Our conversation was not a battle of wills or one shouting over the other nor was it about winners and losers. I'm sure many people will be disappointed to hear that as they would have liked to see us tearing at each others throats but sorry folks it was the complete opposite. There was mutual respect on both sides and a willingness to listen to each others point of view. As I said an hour and half well spent.

[coltcrop]

WELL DONE KARL..... this man obviously has a lot to learn about the country that he lives in. WAKE UP Mr. Quinn !

I feel also that you should PUBLICLY appologise to Ms. Bacik. Your comment was un-educated, underhanded, immature and un-necessary.

[DemocraticRight]

You can name the time and the place and I will meet you. I will send you a pm with my mobile number. BTW, I'm not the least bit interested in your pathetic sob-story below. Nor your pathetic attempt at playing the victim. All kinds of people are discriminated against for all kinds of reasons in their daily lives. What makes you so any different.

[KarlHayden]

OK I will book a meeting room in the gay community centre in Dublin city centre and arrange a date and time.

My so called "sob-story" was not intended for you. I don't think heaven and earth could move you off your views. There is something deep down inside you that prevents you from seeing other points of view. I can only speculate that something happened to you at some point in your life to make you so filled with hate. Sadly that hate might be passed on to another generation, but i hope not.

[KarlHayden]

Just so people not left in limbo.. we have exchanged private messages and made arrangements to meet face to face this Saturday in a public place to continue this debate.

[CH2SpamTroll]

@DemocraticRight You're a nerdy dribbler son. Run along now.The Irish gene pool is not the best. We need foreign blood to get better looking folk. I call it bleeding 'em. Bout time we had some fit birds and not the Irish munters.

[DemocraticRight]

JUST ANSWER THE QUESTION.

[DemocraticRight]

Try grow a pair and stop behaving like a pathetic little wimp. Come to think of it lets see if your'e man enough to speak with me face to face. Thats a debate I'm sure many people would be interested in. well what abought it tough guy think you could handle it???????????????????

[KarlHayden]

Sure... where and when?

[DemocraticRight]

As for the elections at least I gave it a go and stood for what I believed in. So who cares that I lost my deposit I certainly don't. Thus, your attempt to try and belittle me is yet more proof of how pathetic and adolescent a mindset you pocess.

[KarlHayden]

Well now as for adolescent. I would encourage anyone still reading this threat to go look at this man's YouTube page and read what he says. If you can stop laughing long enough follow the links to the forum he has on Journalist Brian Whelan. If you want an example of infantile ranting then put the popcorn in the microwave and sit back, because you will split your sides laughing.

[KarlHayden]

I have searched and finally found an image of Michael Quinn from the time he stood in the 1992 General Election: As YouTube don't seem to allow links to be pasted in messages I will just say to do a Google Search under "Michael Quinn National Party"

[KarlHayden]

I stand for what I believe in everyday of my life, I have to. I have to be aware of bigots like you all the time. People who would deny me equal rights and those who would attack me and attempt to beat me up for the fact that I am gay. I don't need to stand for election to stand up for what I believe in. I live it everyday. It is not a 9 to 5 existence for me and any other gay man. You talk about being a man, try living in a world where that one person on the street might want to do you harm.

[DemocraticRight]

It's obvious that you are aware that you are losing this argument and are beginning to flay about like a drowning man. Admit defeat and be a man for once in your life and stop behaving like a little girl.

[KarlHayden]

Honestly, I am so glad I perused this with you because you clearly have shown the level of debate you are capable of holding. You are not worth the effort and I can see clearly why it was you only got 2.87% of the vote in the 1992 General Election in the Dun Laoghaire, and lost your deposit. At least when I have debated with real right wing follows across europe they were able to mount some kind of defense of their arguments. No wonder none of them have a clue who you are. You sad irrelevant man

[KarlHayden]

As I always say to people... don't be afraid to debate with extreme right or left wingers, within a short period of time they show themselves to be ignorant and manipulative of facts. Their arguments have not basis in truth and are hollow at best. The more people like Michael Quinn are given a platform to speak the more they show themselves to be utterly bereft of any intelligent debate. Most of them revert to name calling and when confronted they usually opt for violence as a response.

[KarlHayden]

Oh! just to keep the record straight... Michael Quinn also stood in the 1997 General Election in Carlow-Kilkenny and managed to get 1.54% of the vote... and again lost his deposit.

[DemocraticRight]

You have got to be joking. Who started the name calling? Don't you remember? let me remind you. This is how you described me, a "hater" and a "liar". But of course, that's not name calling in your book. Double standards bucko double standards.

[DemocraticRight]

You said "That law like so many others were not changed until such a time as our nation matured enough to see the need for it to be changed" yet more nonsensical tripe. So you are suggesting that one has to be "mature enough" to accept two men penetrating each others rectum and consider that as normal? Afraid not bucko, and nether did our forefathers. That's why they didn't legalize the perversion.

[KarlHayden]

Well now that just shows how much of a politician this man is. He has no idea of the notion of a maturing society. As I said earlier he wants to keep this country at a point in history where maidens danced at the crossroads and the Catholic Church held sway of society. The criminal law as it was at the start of our nation was passed down to us by victorian beliefs and values. He clearly has no idea of historical context and believes. Our forefathers also believed women should not have the vote.

[KarlHayden]

I am glad to say that in the 20 years I have been out as a gay man in Ireland I have seen how society has changed in relation to accepting homosexuality. We are now one of the most progressive countries in the world in terms of equality legislation for gay men and lesbians. Happily I can say with complete confidence that the views of Michael Quinn are a diminishing minority in Ireland.

[DemocraticRight]

This kind of remark I would expect to hear from a twelve year old " He would force his political and religious views on people regardless of their own beliefs" I could say exactly the same thing about you. And here is yet another childish remark you made about me spreading "such lies and hate" for crying out loud grow up. This is the type girly nonsense I would expect to hear from a homosexual drama queen. Hold on, is that what you are???

[KarlHayden]

Now who is being the childish one... name calling is a sign of how these people revert to like when challenged about their views. They can not offer a real debate on their views so they set out to name call to distract people from the hollowness of their arguments. Clearly this man is not capable of debating the issues and knows it. What a sad reflection on the extreme right wing. No wonder he could not convince enough people to vote for him when he twice stood for election.

[DemocraticRight]

If as you say "Those who died did so on the basis of freedom for the people of Ireland" if that was the case why didn't they legalise homosexuality as soon as we gained our Independence????

And what of the tens of millions of innocents murdered at the hands of Communist Russia. Seems you are inclined to be very selective when it suits your argument. Which is typical of liberal left wingers such as yourself.

[KarlHayden]

The 1865 act which criminalised homosexuality was a leftover from the British. That law like so many others were not changed until such a time as our nation matured enough to see the need for it to be changed. And, it was done so on the basis of equality. I condemn the actions of the soviets, the chinese and all nations who committed acts of murder on their own people and the people of other nations. I would equally challenge any communist who expounded the same views as you. You're not original

[DemocraticRight]

There is NO WAY that those who died for this country over eight hundred years would in any way condone these degenerates. In fact I would say they are turning in their graves to see how Ireland has become a cesspool of filth.

[KarlHayden]

Those who died did so on the basis of freedom for the people of Ireland. As did those Irish men and women who fought against the rise of National Socialism in German under Hitler and the Nazis. I think the fathers of our nation would turn in their graves to see an Irish man spread such lies and hate. He would force his political and religious views on people regardless of their own beliefs.

[DemocraticRight]

(2) I am a right wing white Christian nationalist don't confuse that with nationalism in the context of the occupied six counties as there are significant difference between the two.

As a "democrat" I support free speech. And that is exactly what I am exercising in my comments.

[KarlHayden]

I am glad you clarified that. Now I can make a direct comparison with Hitler and the Nazis. Clearly he shows his true colours. I am glad to say he is a minority in Ireland. Twice he stood in the court of public opinion and twice the people rejected him. As always with such people their claims are based on lies and ignorance. Never once in the years of debating such people have I heard one of them make a claim that stood up to scrutiny. They are just angry people who want the world to stand still

[DemocraticRight]

Degenerates. As for that Jewess Bacik, what must it be like to wake up every morning with that ugly sow face next to you. YUK.

[KarlHayden]

I am sorry if people feel offended by the comments left by Michael Quinn. I intend to leave the comments here so people can see the kind of vile hatred of this man. He claims to be an Irish Nationalist and Democrat, but his own words betray his lack of Irish Nationalism and any kind of Democracy in his political views. The fathers of our nation in the Proclamation of Independence of 1916 guaranteed the the religious and civil liberties, equal rights and opportunities of all citizens.

[CoirCampaign]

@DemocraticRight

I would think that you of all people would know all about waking up in the morning beside a sow ugly face Quinn! LMFAO LOL LOL