No, it was the correct decision. Why do you hate freedom? How does a corporation spending money to make an anti-Hillary movie harm you? Sorry, but I don't get why a film that attacks Hillary Clinton should be banned before an election. So you think that presenting ideas is dangerous?
@Edgehead10075 You're not sorry. What kind of mixed up fascist asks "Why do you hate freedom" after supporting the business class being given unlimited amplification in their propaganda? That is the definition of fascism you know? Of course not. You think the structure of having seven major corporations tell us what to think everyday is freedom? Sorry. No thanks.
Again, how does "propaganda" hurt anybody? The founding fathers would be shocked by such nonsense. They were for pure, 100% freedom when it came to political speech.
No, that's not the definition of fascism. Try again. What you're basically saying is that capitalism is fascism, which is pure rubbish. While I disagree with Ron Paul on some issues, I agree with him here; and he is no fascist. Corporate freedom isn't fascism. No kind of freedom is fascism.
@HoGraz You can always pull the 'founding fathers' myth. Thing is half of them currently are about this idea that we're going to become an Islamic country and not be a 'christian' country. Half those people can spit out facts, but don't realize the founders explicitly said in the Treaty of Tripoli we were not based on the Christian religion. Trying to pull weight from them won't help. There are plenty of American patriots who are old liberals. That's another myth you guys come up with.
I never said anything about liberals not being patriotic, and I never said anything about separation between church and state. Quit trying to change the subject. The fact is that the founders were clearly for free speech, especially political speech. They'd be appalled by regulations on political speech.
@Edgehead10075 Thomas Jefferson warned that aristocracy would use the corporations to try to take over the government. When you work as a public servant you swear an oath to defend the constitution of the United States from enemies both foreign and domestic. They would be appalled at this. Trust me. Corporations are not people. They have been given legal rights as persons yet they don't have children, they don't die in Iraq etc. You need to search for better answers than trusting authority.
You're unquestionably taking Jefferson's quote out of context. Political speech is not harmful in any way and should always be protected. Period. Even if corporations weren't recognized as people, guess what? They're made up of people and formed by people. If my friend and I want to form a corporation and we're the sole shareholders, then we're speaking when the corporation speaks. If we make a movie that bashes Obama, who's hurt by it?
@Edgehead10075 No I am not. You flat out lying. You should go to one of Jerry Fallwell's brands of churches and tell me what you think about some political speech. Barry Goldwater even warned us against people like him who use God's name when speaking politics. That's besides the point. What we're talking about is corporations having the same rights to political speech as citizens is like having one person with 20 million megaphones vs a person yelling.
@Edgehead10075 P.S. The Koch brothers who brought forth the case managed to get the leverage to instruct their employees who to vote for. It used to be just for shareholders.
@Edgehead10075 I was thinking you probably would like the Clinton Chronicles by Jerry Fallwell's group the "Moral Majority."
P.S. You talk about corporations like they have any legal binding. Have you ever heard of Agent Orange? That was the chemical used to destroy the DNA of thousands of Vietnamese. DOW chemicals made that. Now they talk of "The Human Element." A corporation has access to capital, tools, and information. They even sit around finding ways to subliminally lie to you.
Even the judges who ruled against the Citizens United decision admitted that corporations are legally considered to be persons. They've been recognized as persons since 1868.
@Edgehead10075 I am aware of that dude. I used to be a business major. Have you not heard of the push for abolition of corporate personhood? You need to get it together instead of listening to these fools who learn about stuff after the fact. All those people benefit from Democratic reforms and yet they bash them. Have you ever heard of the 5-day work week? How about Child Labor Laws? What about right to privacy?
@Edgehead10075 You should look into how you get a corrupt judge in office. The courts are set up so that industry comes first then citizens. You can make a philosophical distinction on that, but there is definitely a ruling class that controls everything.
@Edgehead10075 You can call it speech if you want or maybe you can say it's buying elections through corporate propaganda. Obviously they don't give a shit about us, but ok. I take it if you lived here you'd be for small government which means you'd side with these guys first before us - The Republicans who want to jail people for posting people that cause "emotional distress."
The Irony of all of this is that Mr. Vidal claims that the founding fathers were against "Dictatorship & Democracy" in a sarcastic manner but the fact of the matter is that they did hate Democracy... hahaha What a genius!
@Edgehead10075 You're right. Heaven forbid an extremely crude and stupid Governor whose idiotic policies resulted in the deaths of hundreds of thousands be called "extremely crude and stupid". Just because he's a crude and stupid war criminal doesn't mean we shouldn't be polite.
It's kind of hypocritical for Vidal to be calling anyone "crude." He referred to Roman Polanski's thirteen-year-old statutory rape victim as a "whore."
BTW, mature adults don't use terms like "stupid" to describe other people.
@Edgehead10075 Crude is invading a country that isn't a threat as part of your re-election campaign. BTW, mature adults don't invade a country because that country's leader once fought against their daddy. That behavior is, um, what's the word? Stupid.
I'm not denying that Bush was wrong for invading Iraq, but Gore Vidal is not civil. Like I said before, he called Roman Polanski's thirteen-year-old statutory rape victim a "whore."
@Edgehead10075 Please present a link to the quote in context. I have no doubt that Gore Vidal said something with the word "whore" in it regarding the Polanski incident. I doubt very much that he ever said "that 13 year old girl is a whore" or anything like it. I think you're full of shit.
As for being civil to Bush, who gives a fuck. When you kill hundreds of thousands of civilians because you want to start a war so Halliburton can get a fat no-bid contract, you don't deserve civility.
I can't give links on YouTube, but I googled "Gore Vidal refers to Polanski's victim as a whore" and came up with a lot of results. He actually called her a "little hooker," but that's not any better. She was a victim. A thirteen-year-old isn't old enough to give consent. Vidal also blamed anti-Semitism for why Polanski is in legal trouble. Lol.
@Edgehead10075 That's all you've got. You guys just like to shit on anything remotely beautiful. If you can't have it no one can. Hell, you supporting Citizens United and talking about morality is a conflict of interests.
@Edgehead10075 Well I read the interview in question and Gore is claiming that he knew those people and that the story as it's told now isn't anything like what actually happened. Still, I agree with you that calling a 13 year old girl a "hooker" is nasty. Not as nasty as war crimes though. Gore Vidal could go up to every 13 year old girl in the world and personally call them all little hookers to their little faces and still not be 1% as vile as Dubya et al.
Are you telling me that Gore Vidal is pro gun and for less government? I'd like to see some evidence of that. Honestly, I don't believe you. BTW, Vidal recently stated that the thirteen-year-old girl whom Roman Polanski committed statutory rape against "was a hooker." Gore Vidal is a fucking piece of shit. I can't wait for him to drop dead from AIDS. Vidal was OWNED by William F. Buckley.
oh yeah, So how do you define winning? the problem with one sentence statements is that they are so vague and generalised that they end up meaning nothing at all. How do you define victory? when does the fighting stop? Try and imagine a country not in a perpetual state of conflict - that to me is victory. Peace is victory and you don't achieve peace by invading and occupying sovereign countries and bombing and killing people. That just leads to more conflict.
In addition to a demonstrably unsympathetic personality, Gore Vidal is an ordinary writer and an extraordinary fool. A miserable character, he looks down on everybody. He has no sense of reality. And his talent for political analysis is hardly above that of the average paranoid schizophrenic
Even though I'm a conservative, I may have to agree that Paul is a "corporate whore." He is what the Catholic Church would call a "savage capitalist." The guy is even against the government inspecting meat. Paul is a lunatic.
RealNews is a leftist apparatus. Notice how they only parse the field of Democratic candidates? Vidal had to bring up Paul on his own.
You would think that Paul's non-interventionist foreign policy would curry favor from purportedly antiwar leftists, but RealNews along with the likes of Chomsky and Zinn prize government handouts over ending unjust killings abroad.
I thought about supporting RealNews when it first came out. I'm so glad I held off.
I don't think that's true, Chomsky and Zinn both oppose the "War on Terror" and all U.S imperialism (I can't speak for Zinn but Chomsky has written entire books about the matter)
the problem is some of his other policies are insane. he denies evolution, and is asking us to embrace massive corporations taking over everything instead of the government, and I'm pretty sure he wants to ban abortion as well. and you obviously have never read Chomsky, because he writes overwhelmingly about u.s. foreign policy, and is it's best critic.
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you all can keep claiming who you will vote for in 2008, but it makes little difference, republicans and democrats are essentially two branches of one party. you don't have freedom of choice, if we did, like Vidal says, Al Gore would have won in 2000. But instead Governor (the only real office he was elected to) Bush is elected and starts an extensive war (7 years so far) so that real leader of this country (the banking cartels) can finance both sides of it.
For you, DENIAL, is far, FAR more than a river in Egypt. The GOP will be viewed by the PEOPLE as obstructionists just like Gingrich was during Clinton.
Ralph Nader has 6% support as of July 3, 2008; this could mean the election of John McCain. How wrong Gore Vidal was about Hillary securing the victory! How wrong he was about Edwards! He completely missed the magic of Obama's appeal; but then, he didn't like Robert F Kennedy either.
While you and others were busy being woo'ed by the magic of Obamas appeal, he sold out this week, showed his true "magic", and voted for the appalling FISA legislation.
You better start looking at these candidates for who they really are and get past the "charm".
He is NO different than the rest of the scum on the hill.
Wait a minute! Did I say I was wooed by the "magic" of Obama's appeal? I have never been an Obama supporter; hje is a total fake, a wolf in sheep's clothing, and has demonstrated over and over again that he is under the same influence as George W Bush! The AMERICAN PEOPLE are being wooed. I'm voting for Bob Barr.
I know Bob Barr's voting record, but if you study his current positions yo will discover that he has renounced all of his former positions and has embraced total libertarian values. He even apologized for supporting the ridiculous "War on Drugs." Who do YOU support? WHAT do you support?
Well why didn't Ron Paul go all the way and run for President independently? I am furious at him for not doing so. As to your comment, everyone should be allowed to evolve and change over time. "A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds." -Ralph Waldo Emerson
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"Wait a minute! Did I say I was wooed by the "magic" of Obama's appeal? I have never been an Obama supporter; hje is a total fake, a wolf in sheep's clothing, and has demonstrated over and over again that he is under the same influence as George W Bush!"
You are an idiot.
Obama votes for middle class tax cuts 3X more times than McCain
You're a moron. Obama = more debt than Bush. Fiscally, he's WORSE than Bush. Fuck IDIOTS like you who got Obama elected. The Dems are going to get WHORED in 2010. Bwahahahahaha!
I agree that the greatest criticism of Obama is that he had continued the BUSH programs. The trouble is that Obama is afraid that what they did to JFK will happen to him. JFK ordered Robert McNamara, the Sec of Defense to REMOVE OUR TROOPS from Vietnam. He also planned to disband the CIA and give power back to the PEOPLE. Just imagine what the world would be like if he had succeeded.
"Obama will immediately end the Iraq War." I guess that you look like a complete idiot now. Obama also wants to RAISE TAXES on the middle class. Idiots like you deserve what you get. However, I don't. I can't wait until Obama is thrown out on his ass in 2012.
You don't precisely see a lot of constructive criticism around other candidates by their electors, now do you?
So why should Ron Paul fans do more introspective work when you can obviously see his views and ideas are being popular? Not his persona! The guy is popular for his take on the issues, his positions regarding the Constitution, etc. Not some "charisma" charade.
gor vidal was recently on itv's the south bank show. i agree with his political views especially when he likens both parties to two mafia families containing thugs and bush who sworn an oath to protect a constitution that he's done nothing but destroy since the two fraud elections he won.
Sielomax, it's interesting to hear that. I remember watching Vidal on South Bank around 1988 or so. Bragg and he talked about Reagan and christian right's negative influence on American culture. Boy, I'm glad we don't have those problems anymore!
How can someone be rejected when nobody knows they are running? Media black out means the masses don't get to hear him. He wasn't rejected, he's been ignored. If he wasn't a threat, the media wouldn't worry about keeping him quiet.
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Gore Vidal: Proof that a gay man can be dignified, elegant, intelligent and one of the finest minds on the planet. He is the finest example of a gay gentleman that there is, and we are ever so proud of our resident genius. Long Live Vidal!
what does being gay have to do with anything? Who people prefer to sleep with is irrelevant unless you are insecure about your own sexuality and or your own psyche. Ridiculous.
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he must mention his homosexuality to justfy his leftist views as supremely rightous without this fact then he would just be another mediocre rep. for the left
Gore Vidal referred to Roman Polanski's thirteen-year-old rape victim as a "whore." I'm sorry, but that makes Gore Vidal a despicable piece of shit. He's anything but dignified.
Paul is the ANTI-NEOCON. Neocons are those who believe in the ideas of Leo Strauss and Carl Schmitt. Strauss taught Wolfowitz, Pearle, Cheney, Rummy and the rest their ideas and tactics. Strauss came to America with the help of Rockefeller and Schmitt. Schmitt was a business associate of Prescott BUSH and the lawyer for...ADOLF HITLER. NEOCONS are fascists without the anti-semitism.
WRONG! The NEOCONS are followers of Leo Strauss who came to America on a Rockefeller grant arranged by Carl Schmitt who was the German lawyer for Prescott BUSH and his partner, Fritz Thyssen and...ADOLF HITLER. The NEOCONS are fascists without the anti-semitism. Strauss's disciples are Larry Lindsey, Cheney, Wolfowitz, Kristols and the rest of the BUSH criminals. They believe in lying to gain political power and wealth. That much is OBVIOUS.
This is for edgehead's mom: Go to the Control Panel and set up a password to stop this moron from shaming you and those who taught him further. If he was home schooled, then it is doubly your responsibility to have yourself and little Edgy sterilized. We must control the infection for the sake of America and mankind.
@Edgehead10075 I saw a comment of yours saying "lol. FAG", which I assume was aimed at Gore. If it was aimed at him, what does his sexuality have to do with his ideas and works?
Ron Paul is a fraud, he'll say anything to get votes and once he's in office he'll do just as he pleases and not give a damn about what the people who elected him want. Sounds like GW Bush, doesn't it? If you want more incompetent "leadership" like we've had since 2000, go ahead and vote for Ron Paul. If he wins you'll be sorry!
THE ZIONIST JEWS ARE OUT IN FORCE TO DISCREDIT RON PAUL,the scum of NEOCONS and the FEDERAL RESERVE JEWISH BANKERS and ther jewish coprate blood suckers that run and owen the american news media,well do anything to stop RON PAUL.
Ron Paul is a Hoax. Big business is supporting him because they LOVE his theories on deregulation, no minimum wage, No workers rights, No standards. People who think that Ron Pauls base (a redkneck revolution) can raise 6 million dollars all by them selves is truly delusional.
Big business is supporting him? He takes no money from Lobbyists and big business.
At least that's what I hear from the internet, which is not controlled by the higher ups unlike the media. The fact that he's not supported on Fox and MSNBC and his buzz is only created by word of mouth on the internet should be an obvious sign of the sincerity of his success.
you dont consider google, youtube, yahoo, myspace higher ups? the internets become so convoluted in the last few years its nothing but a big piece of commercial trash anymore. Thats why Google sabotaged Mike Gravel in their google talks interview by planting an asshole to ask a stupid question trying to alienate Mike and the National initiative from the viewers.
When Ron Paul drops out I hope people will rethink their stance on whether they want to continue to live under a representative dictatorship or a democracy.
"the money will decide it"...that is the saddest truth. Precisely why American people need to continue to fund Dr. Paul. It will take money to get him into the white house but at least it's our money and not the mega interest groups buying their candidate.
Yeah! But what really will decide it is becoming a delegate in your precinct caucuses and primaries. DO IT...just show up and become one. Look up how to do it and what it entails.
Thanks for your good advice...everyone needs to hear that. I am a meetup co-organizor and have already volunteered to temp caucus chair for my county here in Nevada. Good lookin' out for people with potential to vote with their feet. GO RON PAUL
I guess I was rude, but why hold a man in such high regard, when he can't properly state statisics and real reasons behind certain problems affecting the globe? why doesn't he talk about the economic hitmen, the cia assassins, cia drugs, destruction of the constitution, the facct that we still don't know who did 9/11. I know Alex Jones and Mike Rivera have answers
You clearly have somthing to say.maybe worth listening to, but you can't just come out shooting insults, ..well you can, but most people won't like/listen to you
I'm no troll. But when you claim someone is great and all knowing, I'm going to challenge that notion, and if it doesn't stand up to fire, then someone needs to be correcred. dare to challenge me on the rationale of his claims? my history can beat up your politics, as a teacher once said.
I did not say he was all knowing. I enjoy listening to what he has to say. I find him to be articulate and intelligent and well informed. If you would rather listen to alex Jones why don't you go do it. Personally his voice irritates the shit out of me.
yeah, he has the most BOMBSHELL interviews. he must have the greatest interview closer in history to get the people he's gotten. he's gotten a rothschild on, high level freemasons, all kinds of stuff. this guy is the shiznit. seriously, you have to check out my channel: frnnkeducation on youtube
I hold him in high regard because he has written some great books. He is also one of our greatest essayists. Please read some of his essays as Vidal has been addressing these issues of your concern for years.
you presume I haven't? I know EVERYTHING, and I know this guy isn't as educated or knowledgable...perhaps he isn't as forthright as you'd expect he would be.
yeah frnnk, it really shows your intelligence and your intellectual qualities by judging what a man has to say based on his sexual orientation. You must be a genius. How many books have you written again? How many people consider you an intellectual? Don't bring your insecurities in here little boy.
I've written 1. Plenty of essays. working on two larger essays. and ... I'd say most of the people I've met regard me as an asshole, But they don't deny I know my stuff. They don't debate with me because i'm notorious for my documentation. I'm a by the books typa guy. insecure? no. I am an open minded but cocksure person, at one with myself and nature. I suppose I could be considered a boy since I'm not a girl. but then again, that's semantics and anger on your part.
Did everyone notice that this time he was interviewed via remote, whereas before he was in the studio with Jay? He's not well, and getting worse. Meanwhile, Noam Chomsky is about to turn 80 and I hear the pace of his lectures and other work is slowly killing him. Who will replace these two great men?
Totally senile.
ashburnhouse 2 months ago
well he was certainly wrong on Hillary
Claronium780 3 months ago
Well that explains the Citizens United case. - Ron Paul receiving 6 million dollars in a day.
HoGraz 9 months ago
The Citizens United case had nothing to do with corporate donations; it was about corporate expenditures.
Edgehead10075 6 months ago
@Edgehead10075 Still really bad.
HoGraz 6 months ago
No, it was the correct decision. Why do you hate freedom? How does a corporation spending money to make an anti-Hillary movie harm you? Sorry, but I don't get why a film that attacks Hillary Clinton should be banned before an election. So you think that presenting ideas is dangerous?
Edgehead10075 6 months ago
@Edgehead10075 You're not sorry. What kind of mixed up fascist asks "Why do you hate freedom" after supporting the business class being given unlimited amplification in their propaganda? That is the definition of fascism you know? Of course not. You think the structure of having seven major corporations tell us what to think everyday is freedom? Sorry. No thanks.
HoGraz 6 months ago
Again, how does "propaganda" hurt anybody? The founding fathers would be shocked by such nonsense. They were for pure, 100% freedom when it came to political speech.
No, that's not the definition of fascism. Try again. What you're basically saying is that capitalism is fascism, which is pure rubbish. While I disagree with Ron Paul on some issues, I agree with him here; and he is no fascist. Corporate freedom isn't fascism. No kind of freedom is fascism.
Edgehead10075 6 months ago
@Edgehead10075 You're a lost Johnny. I'm already sick to my stomach by you.
HoGraz 6 months ago
@HoGraz You can always pull the 'founding fathers' myth. Thing is half of them currently are about this idea that we're going to become an Islamic country and not be a 'christian' country. Half those people can spit out facts, but don't realize the founders explicitly said in the Treaty of Tripoli we were not based on the Christian religion. Trying to pull weight from them won't help. There are plenty of American patriots who are old liberals. That's another myth you guys come up with.
HoGraz 6 months ago
I never said anything about liberals not being patriotic, and I never said anything about separation between church and state. Quit trying to change the subject. The fact is that the founders were clearly for free speech, especially political speech. They'd be appalled by regulations on political speech.
Edgehead10075 6 months ago
@Edgehead10075 Thomas Jefferson warned that aristocracy would use the corporations to try to take over the government. When you work as a public servant you swear an oath to defend the constitution of the United States from enemies both foreign and domestic. They would be appalled at this. Trust me. Corporations are not people. They have been given legal rights as persons yet they don't have children, they don't die in Iraq etc. You need to search for better answers than trusting authority.
HoGraz 6 months ago
You're unquestionably taking Jefferson's quote out of context. Political speech is not harmful in any way and should always be protected. Period. Even if corporations weren't recognized as people, guess what? They're made up of people and formed by people. If my friend and I want to form a corporation and we're the sole shareholders, then we're speaking when the corporation speaks. If we make a movie that bashes Obama, who's hurt by it?
Edgehead10075 6 months ago
@Edgehead10075 No I am not. You flat out lying. You should go to one of Jerry Fallwell's brands of churches and tell me what you think about some political speech. Barry Goldwater even warned us against people like him who use God's name when speaking politics. That's besides the point. What we're talking about is corporations having the same rights to political speech as citizens is like having one person with 20 million megaphones vs a person yelling.
HoGraz 6 months ago
@Edgehead10075 P.S. The Koch brothers who brought forth the case managed to get the leverage to instruct their employees who to vote for. It used to be just for shareholders.
HoGraz 6 months ago
@Edgehead10075 I was thinking you probably would like the Clinton Chronicles by Jerry Fallwell's group the "Moral Majority."
P.S. You talk about corporations like they have any legal binding. Have you ever heard of Agent Orange? That was the chemical used to destroy the DNA of thousands of Vietnamese. DOW chemicals made that. Now they talk of "The Human Element." A corporation has access to capital, tools, and information. They even sit around finding ways to subliminally lie to you.
HoGraz 6 months ago
@Edgehead10075 The people who don't have a voice. People, not artificial entities.
HoGraz 6 months ago
Even the judges who ruled against the Citizens United decision admitted that corporations are legally considered to be persons. They've been recognized as persons since 1868.
Edgehead10075 6 months ago
@Edgehead10075 I am aware of that dude. I used to be a business major. Have you not heard of the push for abolition of corporate personhood? You need to get it together instead of listening to these fools who learn about stuff after the fact. All those people benefit from Democratic reforms and yet they bash them. Have you ever heard of the 5-day work week? How about Child Labor Laws? What about right to privacy?
HoGraz 6 months ago
@Edgehead10075 You should look into how you get a corrupt judge in office. The courts are set up so that industry comes first then citizens. You can make a philosophical distinction on that, but there is definitely a ruling class that controls everything.
HoGraz 6 months ago
@HoGraz Cicero said two thousand years ago that freedom is participation in power. Perhaps you loath freedom.
HoGraz 6 months ago
Speech = participation.
Edgehead10075 6 months ago
@Edgehead10075 You can call it speech if you want or maybe you can say it's buying elections through corporate propaganda. Obviously they don't give a shit about us, but ok. I take it if you lived here you'd be for small government which means you'd side with these guys first before us - The Republicans who want to jail people for posting people that cause "emotional distress."
HoGraz 6 months ago
@Edgehead10075 reuters.com/article/2011/07/12/us-economy-california-amazon-idUSTRE76B06X20110712
HoGraz 6 months ago
@Edgehead10075 Since you said you're into the whole link sharing bit here's one: youtube.com/watch?v=TdjBFevJs0c&feature=mh_lolz&list=FLuOEI6AElUeo
HoGraz 6 months ago
@Edgehead10075 "No kind of freedom is fascism" You clearly don't know what fascism is.
devourerofbabies 6 months ago
So fascism is freedom? Explain.
Edgehead10075 6 months ago
@Edgehead10075 I didn't say that. You did.
HoGraz 6 months ago
@Edgehead10075 Fascism is a specific socio-economic ideology. Saying "no kind of freedom is fascism" is far too vague and isn't even true.
devourerofbabies 6 months ago
The Irony of all of this is that Mr. Vidal claims that the founding fathers were against "Dictatorship & Democracy" in a sarcastic manner but the fact of the matter is that they did hate Democracy... hahaha What a genius!
goodatbasebal 1 year ago
@goodatbasebal the founding fathers hated the idea of a democracy, they thought it was the worst form of government there is and i agree with em!
ezzz42 1 year ago
@goodatbasebal sigh...you've obviously never read any of his works
bigbossman999 8 months ago
you are wrong gore...you live in the past . your mind is still in the 60's ...you witty and funny but NOT right
cirosuperiore 1 year ago
@cirosuperiore What is he wrong about? Or is it just that you disagree with him but don't have the intellect or facts to rebut?
ScottBrown666 1 year ago
Hillary is a fraud.. She backed out because the special interests wanted Obama.
xMaXiMuSx 1 year ago
Did he just call Bush extremely crude and stupid? Nice to hear somebody calling it like it is.
devourerofbabies 1 year ago
It's still uncalled for.
Edgehead10075 6 months ago
@Edgehead10075 You're right. Heaven forbid an extremely crude and stupid Governor whose idiotic policies resulted in the deaths of hundreds of thousands be called "extremely crude and stupid". Just because he's a crude and stupid war criminal doesn't mean we shouldn't be polite.
devourerofbabies 6 months ago
It's kind of hypocritical for Vidal to be calling anyone "crude." He referred to Roman Polanski's thirteen-year-old statutory rape victim as a "whore."
BTW, mature adults don't use terms like "stupid" to describe other people.
Edgehead10075 6 months ago
@Edgehead10075 Crude is invading a country that isn't a threat as part of your re-election campaign. BTW, mature adults don't invade a country because that country's leader once fought against their daddy. That behavior is, um, what's the word? Stupid.
devourerofbabies 6 months ago
I'm not denying that Bush was wrong for invading Iraq, but Gore Vidal is not civil. Like I said before, he called Roman Polanski's thirteen-year-old statutory rape victim a "whore."
Edgehead10075 6 months ago
@Edgehead10075 Please present a link to the quote in context. I have no doubt that Gore Vidal said something with the word "whore" in it regarding the Polanski incident. I doubt very much that he ever said "that 13 year old girl is a whore" or anything like it. I think you're full of shit.
As for being civil to Bush, who gives a fuck. When you kill hundreds of thousands of civilians because you want to start a war so Halliburton can get a fat no-bid contract, you don't deserve civility.
devourerofbabies 6 months ago
I can't give links on YouTube, but I googled "Gore Vidal refers to Polanski's victim as a whore" and came up with a lot of results. He actually called her a "little hooker," but that's not any better. She was a victim. A thirteen-year-old isn't old enough to give consent. Vidal also blamed anti-Semitism for why Polanski is in legal trouble. Lol.
Edgehead10075 6 months ago
@Edgehead10075 That's all you've got. You guys just like to shit on anything remotely beautiful. If you can't have it no one can. Hell, you supporting Citizens United and talking about morality is a conflict of interests.
HoGraz 6 months ago
@Edgehead10075 Well I read the interview in question and Gore is claiming that he knew those people and that the story as it's told now isn't anything like what actually happened. Still, I agree with you that calling a 13 year old girl a "hooker" is nasty. Not as nasty as war crimes though. Gore Vidal could go up to every 13 year old girl in the world and personally call them all little hookers to their little faces and still not be 1% as vile as Dubya et al.
devourerofbabies 6 months ago
Bush is a war criminal, but he's not the only war criminal president.
Edgehead10075 6 months ago
@Edgehead10075 No, he's not. Many of them have been. But he's among the worst.
devourerofbabies 6 months ago
Well, Hillary didn't get elected but Vidal was spot on about everything else.
beldapriest 2 years ago 2
vidal is a socialist lunitic
acs5pall 2 years ago
I am a Pure republican(NOT a Republican as in the Party) and this man is not at all a Socialist; NOR is he a Leftist. He criticizes both Parties-
And, Gore Vidal is a Pure republican as did the writers of the Originalist-
I respect this man. And I believe in God, tend to be Ultra Conservative; but not in the American Republican tradition.
Gore Vidal is an extremely honest man.
He is not a Socialist NOR a Lunatic.
His Honesty is what is Scary-We have been hypnotized to fear Truth-
poitrenaud 2 years ago
Are you telling me that Gore Vidal is pro gun and for less government? I'd like to see some evidence of that. Honestly, I don't believe you. BTW, Vidal recently stated that the thirteen-year-old girl whom Roman Polanski committed statutory rape against "was a hooker." Gore Vidal is a fucking piece of shit. I can't wait for him to drop dead from AIDS. Vidal was OWNED by William F. Buckley.
Edgehead10075 2 years ago
Vidal is a leftist; you must be an idiot.
Edgehead10075 6 months ago
@Edgehead10075 You must be a fascist.
HoGraz 6 months ago
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Why is that? I bet you don't even know what a fascist is. No, I'm not a fascist. I'm a capitalist.
Edgehead10075 6 months ago
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You are stupid dumb ass.
drumstrumer030 2 years ago
The purpose of fighting is to win. There is no victory possible in defense.
bahramf 2 years ago
oh yeah, So how do you define winning? the problem with one sentence statements is that they are so vague and generalised that they end up meaning nothing at all. How do you define victory? when does the fighting stop? Try and imagine a country not in a perpetual state of conflict - that to me is victory. Peace is victory and you don't achieve peace by invading and occupying sovereign countries and bombing and killing people. That just leads to more conflict.
thegiantsquid433 2 years ago
this guy is great BUT he has been flip flopping all over the place regarding Obama, the Founding Fathers, lots actually.
strasheep 2 years ago
@ scotty123123:
Do you often cut-and-paste comments? Or do you have more than one thought?
SayYesToReason 2 years ago 3
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In addition to a demonstrably unsympathetic personality, Gore Vidal is an ordinary writer and an extraordinary fool. A miserable character, he looks down on everybody. He has no sense of reality. And his talent for political analysis is hardly above that of the average paranoid schizophrenic
scotty123123 2 years ago
"A miserable character, he looks down on everybody"
I KNOW SCOTTY---BUT WHO THE HELL CAN YOU LOOK UP TO IN THAT USA.
pdmac46 2 years ago
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Ron Paul is a corporate whore.
BoxingApe 2 years ago
Ahh, retard!
randyguitarman13 2 years ago
Really?
What does that make most of the other candidates?
fomastephanovitch 2 years ago
Even though I'm a conservative, I may have to agree that Paul is a "corporate whore." He is what the Catholic Church would call a "savage capitalist." The guy is even against the government inspecting meat. Paul is a lunatic.
Edgehead10075 2 years ago
The Des Moines is neither conservative or liberal, it's just worthless...
quartermain1961 3 years ago 2
I don't know why they edited out when gore vidal was talking about how he felt about Ron Paul. I would appreciate an answer.
LIBERTYINSURGENCY 3 years ago 17
RealNews is a leftist apparatus. Notice how they only parse the field of Democratic candidates? Vidal had to bring up Paul on his own.
You would think that Paul's non-interventionist foreign policy would curry favor from purportedly antiwar leftists, but RealNews along with the likes of Chomsky and Zinn prize government handouts over ending unjust killings abroad.
I thought about supporting RealNews when it first came out. I'm so glad I held off.
PhatPhing 2 years ago
I don't think that's true, Chomsky and Zinn both oppose the "War on Terror" and all U.S imperialism (I can't speak for Zinn but Chomsky has written entire books about the matter)
JAMcreations 2 years ago
the problem is some of his other policies are insane. he denies evolution, and is asking us to embrace massive corporations taking over everything instead of the government, and I'm pretty sure he wants to ban abortion as well. and you obviously have never read Chomsky, because he writes overwhelmingly about u.s. foreign policy, and is it's best critic.
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JonnyMuzz 3 years ago
Vote for Ralph Nader!
HughieGphiladelphia 3 years ago 5
you all can keep claiming who you will vote for in 2008, but it makes little difference, republicans and democrats are essentially two branches of one party. you don't have freedom of choice, if we did, like Vidal says, Al Gore would have won in 2000. But instead Governor (the only real office he was elected to) Bush is elected and starts an extensive war (7 years so far) so that real leader of this country (the banking cartels) can finance both sides of it.
redritehand 3 years ago 7
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I love Gore Vidal, but I'm with OBAMA this year. The alternative is our collective demise.
MCKRUSH 3 years ago
Actually Obama is our collective demise. He will be voted out in 2012. Simple as that. He's a complete failure.
Edgehead10075 2 years ago
For you, DENIAL, is far, FAR more than a river in Egypt. The GOP will be viewed by the PEOPLE as obstructionists just like Gingrich was during Clinton.
exenrontexas 2 years ago
The polls show that Americans don't support Obamacare. You need to keep up with reality. You are batshit crazy.
Edgehead10075 2 years ago
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Gore vidal has lost it
jameswp266 3 years ago
What makes you say that?
YuriKenobi 3 years ago
And yet I'm sure he could still whittle you down to splinters.
fatmeteor 3 years ago
Did he ever have it to begin with?
Edgehead10075 2 years ago
Ralph Nader has 6% support as of July 3, 2008; this could mean the election of John McCain. How wrong Gore Vidal was about Hillary securing the victory! How wrong he was about Edwards! He completely missed the magic of Obama's appeal; but then, he didn't like Robert F Kennedy either.
billyguns2 3 years ago
Nader is a saboteur.
currentlybraindead 3 years ago
While you and others were busy being woo'ed by the magic of Obamas appeal, he sold out this week, showed his true "magic", and voted for the appalling FISA legislation.
You better start looking at these candidates for who they really are and get past the "charm".
He is NO different than the rest of the scum on the hill.
eincali 3 years ago 4
Wait a minute! Did I say I was wooed by the "magic" of Obama's appeal? I have never been an Obama supporter; hje is a total fake, a wolf in sheep's clothing, and has demonstrated over and over again that he is under the same influence as George W Bush! The AMERICAN PEOPLE are being wooed. I'm voting for Bob Barr.
billyguns2 3 years ago 3
Bob Barr ate Borat's mother's titty-milk cheese.
You are still being woo'ed.
Barr's voting record is pathetic.
eincali 3 years ago
I know Bob Barr's voting record, but if you study his current positions yo will discover that he has renounced all of his former positions and has embraced total libertarian values. He even apologized for supporting the ridiculous "War on Drugs." Who do YOU support? WHAT do you support?
billyguns2 3 years ago
"current positions...."
Please.
Ron Paul has been fighting for the same values for over twenty years.
eincali 3 years ago
Well why didn't Ron Paul go all the way and run for President independently? I am furious at him for not doing so. As to your comment, everyone should be allowed to evolve and change over time. "A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds." -Ralph Waldo Emerson
billyguns2 3 years ago
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"Wait a minute! Did I say I was wooed by the "magic" of Obama's appeal? I have never been an Obama supporter; hje is a total fake, a wolf in sheep's clothing, and has demonstrated over and over again that he is under the same influence as George W Bush!"
You are an idiot.
Obama votes for middle class tax cuts 3X more times than McCain
That a real tangible difference
Obama will imediatly end the Iraq War
That is a real tangible difference
herbzilla12 3 years ago
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McCain voted in 100% agreement with bush in 2008.
McCain is a LITERALL bush clone.
Unless you wany 4 more years of Bush, Vote Obama.
herbzilla12 3 years ago
You're a moron. Obama = more debt than Bush. Fiscally, he's WORSE than Bush. Fuck IDIOTS like you who got Obama elected. The Dems are going to get WHORED in 2010. Bwahahahahaha!
Edgehead10075 2 years ago
Well we took your advice and we've still got Bush...
This is the best thing about YouTube: you can pull up embarrassing shit that people wrote when they've become riled up by campaign rhetoric.
fomastephanovitch 2 years ago
I agree that the greatest criticism of Obama is that he had continued the BUSH programs. The trouble is that Obama is afraid that what they did to JFK will happen to him. JFK ordered Robert McNamara, the Sec of Defense to REMOVE OUR TROOPS from Vietnam. He also planned to disband the CIA and give power back to the PEOPLE. Just imagine what the world would be like if he had succeeded.
exenrontexas 2 years ago
"Obama will immediately end the Iraq War." I guess that you look like a complete idiot now. Obama also wants to RAISE TAXES on the middle class. Idiots like you deserve what you get. However, I don't. I can't wait until Obama is thrown out on his ass in 2012.
Edgehead10075 2 years ago
Bad faith, again.
You don't precisely see a lot of constructive criticism around other candidates by their electors, now do you?
So why should Ron Paul fans do more introspective work when you can obviously see his views and ideas are being popular? Not his persona! The guy is popular for his take on the issues, his positions regarding the Constitution, etc. Not some "charisma" charade.
alleyghost 3 years ago 4
gor vidal was recently on itv's the south bank show. i agree with his political views especially when he likens both parties to two mafia families containing thugs and bush who sworn an oath to protect a constitution that he's done nothing but destroy since the two fraud elections he won.
Sielomax 3 years ago 2
Sielomax, it's interesting to hear that. I remember watching Vidal on South Bank around 1988 or so. Bragg and he talked about Reagan and christian right's negative influence on American culture. Boy, I'm glad we don't have those problems anymore!
CharlieChan007 3 years ago
STELLAR
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then you tube
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pssst.....Hillary is toast!
Goldbuckles 3 years ago
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This guy's so off. He only loves to hear himself talk and gives no respect to reality.
GustavusAdolphus1 3 years ago
lmao at his Obama blast
love it
dodgers2213 3 years ago 4
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Wrong!
Ron Paul is a libertarian not a true republican
Ron Paul was rejected by most Americans!
He never won a primary and will be kicked out of Congress March 4th
Obama's rise is doom for the democrats wait and see how bad Obama loses to McCain
Obama is a political pop star and like all pop stars his followers will be tired and done with him soon..
StellarMortem 3 years ago
Yeah, Diebold didn't like Ron Paul that's for sure.
wolverine2244 3 years ago 8
i concur perhaps what im about to say may be too extreme for most people but if obama comes to seat...there will be a revolution in our country
zurdoniggerkiller 3 years ago
How can someone be rejected when nobody knows they are running? Media black out means the masses don't get to hear him. He wasn't rejected, he's been ignored. If he wasn't a threat, the media wouldn't worry about keeping him quiet.
chelle315 3 years ago 5
yeah Ron Paul!
sodasoap 4 years ago 6
"...extremely crude and stupid President..."
I wonder what America's Top Dunce will do during his last eleven months in office?
God help us!
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comtoket 4 years ago 2
Gore Vidal: Proof that a gay man can be dignified, elegant, intelligent and one of the finest minds on the planet. He is the finest example of a gay gentleman that there is, and we are ever so proud of our resident genius. Long Live Vidal!
Nightbird 4 years ago 6
what does being gay have to do with anything? Who people prefer to sleep with is irrelevant unless you are insecure about your own sexuality and or your own psyche. Ridiculous.
lrycryl 3 years ago 25
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he must mention his homosexuality to justfy his leftist views as supremely rightous without this fact then he would just be another mediocre rep. for the left
zurdoniggerkiller 3 years ago
Gore Vidal referred to Roman Polanski's thirteen-year-old rape victim as a "whore." I'm sorry, but that makes Gore Vidal a despicable piece of shit. He's anything but dignified.
Edgehead10075 2 years ago
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I'm still trying to figure out Gore's qualifications for being a political commentator, other than his knee-jerk radical views.
random63x 4 years ago
Which of Gore's views sound "knee-jerk radical" to you because I just don't get it?
stuffupthecracks 4 years ago
Ron Paul supporters spread this link to all others.
RonPaul2008
helmsly 4 years ago 4
good outlook
marcusgrimmm 4 years ago 3
No real talk of Gravel... :'( Well, at least some important points were made.
Commando303X 4 years ago
Kucinich 2008
deliciousmorton 4 years ago 2
"there are NO coorperations(sic)that can be trusted"
The United States is a corporation.
neothomist1275 4 years ago
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Paul is a fraud backed by ultra neo cons morphing into the next level, dictatorship
zoticus1 4 years ago
Paul is the ANTI-NEOCON. Neocons are those who believe in the ideas of Leo Strauss and Carl Schmitt. Strauss taught Wolfowitz, Pearle, Cheney, Rummy and the rest their ideas and tactics. Strauss came to America with the help of Rockefeller and Schmitt. Schmitt was a business associate of Prescott BUSH and the lawyer for...ADOLF HITLER. NEOCONS are fascists without the anti-semitism.
exenrontexas 4 years ago 3
The term "neocon" itself is anti-Semitic. Ron Paul is a joke who should be forgotten. The guy is a troglodyte laissez-faire dim wit.
Edgehead10075 2 years ago
WRONG! The NEOCONS are followers of Leo Strauss who came to America on a Rockefeller grant arranged by Carl Schmitt who was the German lawyer for Prescott BUSH and his partner, Fritz Thyssen and...ADOLF HITLER. The NEOCONS are fascists without the anti-semitism. Strauss's disciples are Larry Lindsey, Cheney, Wolfowitz, Kristols and the rest of the BUSH criminals. They believe in lying to gain political power and wealth. That much is OBVIOUS.
/watch?v=Vt-FyuuWlWQ
exenrontexas 2 years ago
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Stop spamming.
Edgehead10075 2 years ago
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exenrontexas 2 years ago
Lol. FAG.
Edgehead10075 2 years ago
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exenrontexas 2 years ago
I wouldn't know. I'm not ten. I'm not a fag. I don't live in New York. Are you talking about yourself?
Edgehead10075 2 years ago
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exenrontexas 2 years ago
You're boring.
Edgehead10075 2 years ago
This is for edgehead's mom: Go to the Control Panel and set up a password to stop this moron from shaming you and those who taught him further. If he was home schooled, then it is doubly your responsibility to have yourself and little Edgy sterilized. We must control the infection for the sake of America and mankind.
exenrontexas 2 years ago 4
@Edgehead10075 And that has what, precisely, to do with his ideas and works?
Alexdurrant7 6 months ago
What does what have to do with whose ideas and works? Sorry, but I can't tell what post of mine you're responding to.
Edgehead10075 6 months ago
@Edgehead10075 I saw a comment of yours saying "lol. FAG", which I assume was aimed at Gore. If it was aimed at him, what does his sexuality have to do with his ideas and works?
Alexdurrant7 6 months ago
I saw the comment to which you're referring. I was just responding to some guy who was insulting me.
I have no problem with Vidal's personal life. If he's attracted to guys, he's attracted to guys.
Edgehead10075 6 months ago
zoticus1, you should video search neo-conned Ron Paul. Hillary Clinton is funded by neo cons.
abram730 4 years ago
Ron Paul is a fraud, he'll say anything to get votes and once he's in office he'll do just as he pleases and not give a damn about what the people who elected him want. Sounds like GW Bush, doesn't it? If you want more incompetent "leadership" like we've had since 2000, go ahead and vote for Ron Paul. If he wins you'll be sorry!
mrobertb 4 years ago
What the hell are you talking about?
letmypeopleho69 4 years ago 2
THE ZIONIST JEWS ARE OUT IN FORCE TO DISCREDIT RON PAUL,the scum of NEOCONS and the FEDERAL RESERVE JEWISH BANKERS and ther jewish coprate blood suckers that run and owen the american news media,well do anything to stop RON PAUL.
digitman01 4 years ago
Ron Paul is a Hoax. Big business is supporting him because they LOVE his theories on deregulation, no minimum wage, No workers rights, No standards. People who think that Ron Pauls base (a redkneck revolution) can raise 6 million dollars all by them selves is truly delusional.
oldhacks 4 years ago
Big business is supporting him? He takes no money from Lobbyists and big business.
At least that's what I hear from the internet, which is not controlled by the higher ups unlike the media. The fact that he's not supported on Fox and MSNBC and his buzz is only created by word of mouth on the internet should be an obvious sign of the sincerity of his success.
letmypeopleho69 4 years ago 3
you dont consider google, youtube, yahoo, myspace higher ups? the internets become so convoluted in the last few years its nothing but a big piece of commercial trash anymore. Thats why Google sabotaged Mike Gravel in their google talks interview by planting an asshole to ask a stupid question trying to alienate Mike and the National initiative from the viewers.
oldhacks 4 years ago 2
When Ron Paul drops out I hope people will rethink their stance on whether they want to continue to live under a representative dictatorship or a democracy.
enact the National Initiative.
oldhacks 4 years ago
"the money will decide it"...that is the saddest truth. Precisely why American people need to continue to fund Dr. Paul. It will take money to get him into the white house but at least it's our money and not the mega interest groups buying their candidate.
jimmytigg 4 years ago 3
Yeah! But what really will decide it is becoming a delegate in your precinct caucuses and primaries. DO IT...just show up and become one. Look up how to do it and what it entails.
GO RON PAUL!
KAisaWheel 4 years ago
Thanks for your good advice...everyone needs to hear that. I am a meetup co-organizor and have already volunteered to temp caucus chair for my county here in Nevada. Good lookin' out for people with potential to vote with their feet. GO RON PAUL
jimmytigg 4 years ago
I'm also temporary chair for my precinct in NEVADA! WOO!!!
KAisaWheel 4 years ago
Yeah this is a very tidy commentary
grogiedog 4 years ago
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real news is fucking worthless
RingWarrior12 4 years ago
This is great.
skaaaapy 4 years ago 2
I guess I was rude, but why hold a man in such high regard, when he can't properly state statisics and real reasons behind certain problems affecting the globe? why doesn't he talk about the economic hitmen, the cia assassins, cia drugs, destruction of the constitution, the facct that we still don't know who did 9/11. I know Alex Jones and Mike Rivera have answers
frnnk 4 years ago 2
You clearly have somthing to say.maybe worth listening to, but you can't just come out shooting insults, ..well you can, but most people won't like/listen to you
RustyShacklefuurd 4 years ago
Or you, pal.
revjimbob 4 years ago
or me what?
FrnnkEducation 4 years ago
I wasn't talking to you.
revjimbob 4 years ago
Yeah, like Alex jones is such an intellectual.
JenkleJ 4 years ago
prove he isn't.
frnnk 4 years ago
Stop being so fuckin pathetic.
JenkleJ 4 years ago
I'm no troll. But when you claim someone is great and all knowing, I'm going to challenge that notion, and if it doesn't stand up to fire, then someone needs to be correcred. dare to challenge me on the rationale of his claims? my history can beat up your politics, as a teacher once said.
frnnk 4 years ago
I did not say he was all knowing. I enjoy listening to what he has to say. I find him to be articulate and intelligent and well informed. If you would rather listen to alex Jones why don't you go do it. Personally his voice irritates the shit out of me.
JenkleJ 4 years ago
lol. it is pretty annoying. I've convinced myself that it's entertaining though. X)_)
frnnk 4 years ago
I would actually like to listen to him but I can only take about 5 minutes LOL.
JenkleJ 4 years ago
yeah, he has the most BOMBSHELL interviews. he must have the greatest interview closer in history to get the people he's gotten. he's gotten a rothschild on, high level freemasons, all kinds of stuff. this guy is the shiznit. seriously, you have to check out my channel: frnnkeducation on youtube
FrnnkEducation 4 years ago
I hold him in high regard because he has written some great books. He is also one of our greatest essayists. Please read some of his essays as Vidal has been addressing these issues of your concern for years.
BabyHuey7 4 years ago
you presume I haven't? I know EVERYTHING, and I know this guy isn't as educated or knowledgable...perhaps he isn't as forthright as you'd expect he would be.
frnnk 4 years ago
yeah frnnk, it really shows your intelligence and your intellectual qualities by judging what a man has to say based on his sexual orientation. You must be a genius. How many books have you written again? How many people consider you an intellectual? Don't bring your insecurities in here little boy.
thelsusolution 4 years ago 3
I've written 1. Plenty of essays. working on two larger essays. and ... I'd say most of the people I've met regard me as an asshole, But they don't deny I know my stuff. They don't debate with me because i'm notorious for my documentation. I'm a by the books typa guy. insecure? no. I am an open minded but cocksure person, at one with myself and nature. I suppose I could be considered a boy since I'm not a girl. but then again, that's semantics and anger on your part.
frnnk 4 years ago
Did everyone notice that this time he was interviewed via remote, whereas before he was in the studio with Jay? He's not well, and getting worse. Meanwhile, Noam Chomsky is about to turn 80 and I hear the pace of his lectures and other work is slowly killing him. Who will replace these two great men?
robtran 4 years ago 2
chompsky looks old as shit I saw him recently on TV
semiliteratedgod 4 years ago
Oh I know. It's awful.
robtran 4 years ago
Oh really? Maybe Mr. Vidal would be smarter if he spent his time watching Star Wars and American Idol.
glorioushektor 4 years ago
Ron Paul--the truth
dakoolboy978 4 years ago
Ron Paulers -- the cult followers
MarquisdeBarrabas 4 years ago