I am a member of Holy Trinity Brompton, where NIcky GUmbels preaches. I can tell you quite honestly that behind the scenes the knives are out. They are such control freaks. People who disagree are punished by being excluded from all social events, and can even be surrounded by bullies and physically removed.
The real church does not have hierarchy - there is no abuse of power - as there is at HTB
Lets say you are good at ABSOLUTELY NOTHING, all you do is watch other people succeed. Can this 'god' make me better? and at what?
OH WAIT, All god can really do is say YES, NO, and WAIT... so i what then? god gave me no hope for anything... i'd have to do all of it myself, so now what? where's god now? is he proud he 'made' me into a siccessful person even though he told me one word that barely meant anything to me because he can do anything. you know what? you aint got no pancake mix, God!!
Don't be duped by this evangelist propaganda. You don't need religion to tell you what to think or do. You are perfectly able to think for yourself. The bible is a book written by several authors, many of them far away from the events in time + space. It's an untrustworthy and superstitious source. Further, it is full or war, murder and revenge- I wouldn't want to derive my morals from it. Anyway, enjoy your life without having to fear an unprovable celestial supervisor or made-up"holy spirit".
@Freethinking2010 its why you never visit religious people in their sweaty ass country home... because they spend their lofe talking to an all powerful murderer that can kill them at any time...
There is no god, only delusion and emotional vested interests, meaning---people believe only because they want to. Christianity is incompatible with reason, logical thinking and rational standards of evidence.
@socksumi is your own belief compatible with logic, if so how? You must assume that logic is absolute to claim that your reasoning is logical, correct? so, your claim that there is no god is logically compatible, is that correct? how do you know that?
This is a complete embarrassment in general and to humanity as a whole. These christian MANIACS are DISGUSTING FILTH. It is an insult to call a country christian.
Its a travesty that humans continue with this especially in the 21st century. it is now time to move on.
Sickening.
and please dont pull a quote from your centuries old little magazine.
you are all tramps. YOU CANT EVEN TRANCEND THE IDEA OF GOD. pathetic.
Is that the Man vs Wild guy on this vidoe? That is cool if he is. He does look like me thouth. I think he migth be a christain he just never uses Gods name.
what yeshua are you serving? Gumbel serves the real Biblical Yeshua. Are you Orthodox Jew and one who disavows Jesus? What's your problem?! Are you jealous of Gumbel drawing the thinking unbelievers to Jesus?!
Great video and great course - I like the way that they dont make Christianity to be a rosy tinted lifestyle or old-fashioned 'flower-arranging but like real people. Respect for Bear Grylls. Try it.
If we discover a desire within us that nothing in this world can satisfy, also we should begin to wonder if perhaps we were created for another world. C. S. Lewis,
booya baby! heaven is reality! we need to start acting like it!!!
For those of you who read this and laugh at the ridiculous amount of brainwashing that THEY have done to me, I will pray for you. Because through my beliefs, I know that God will work through me to help others capture the love and grace that Jesus has to offer.
Lastly, I would like to say that this is just my opinion of what I have seen on comment boards like this. I applaud those of you who have gone on retreats like the alpha course, since it is obviously not easy to surrender your pride and leave it up to someone much greater than yourself.
Someone can never completely describe an experience to another person without the other actually having that same experience. Also, many take societal influences like stand up comedy, news, and other secular media as fact. Much like a grade school classroom, rumors are spread about and it is very tough to figure out who is really telling the truth.
-Selfishness. One's own selfishness and pride will not allow someone else to believe in something that may seem impossible to them.
-Jealousy. One's jealousy and envy towards someone almost always ends up in an agggesive attitude with the end result trying to discredit someone else's point of view.
-Misconceptions. One cannot have an experience without having experienced themselves.
I personally believe that loving one another in this way is very difficult to secular persons since many believe that we are all mathematical probabilities. This belief that religion is human made and human manipulated is not important if a secular person truly believed in their own beliefs. But without proof or evidence, many discourage others from living great lives in servitude for others and God.
I don't understand when some people feel they have to bring negativity into a great thing. This program gives hope and inspiration to thousands. No one is brainwashing or telling you what to believe. I personally believe that all people are called to love God through all aspects of their lives. Whether you believe this or not, this means that we are called to love one another, like we would like to be treated.
Knowing that Bear is in ALPHA gives me more respect for him. Not because I respect Christians over others, but because he has the guts to put it out there and not be ashamed.
Bear Grylls is part of this alpha course stuff nonsense?! I used to think he was cool!
By the way, anyone who needs a book to tell them incest is wrong has some issues that that is will take more than the beta course to resolve. Chemical castration is probably your best bet.
The moral of the story my firend is Do not lust after the flesh because you will be dissapointed and God does not approve of being sexually out of control. We are designed for marriage & long term commitment. God also tells us not to do insest (See Romans 10) and Matthew 6:21
For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.
I went to an alpha course in 1999 after realising that djing and drinking heavily was not much to really live for. Anyway i had the chance to ask questions, to pray and to meet some nice people. No one brainwashed me or tried to force me into anything. The food was good & here i am now 9 years later a follower of Jesus! Dont hold back please give God a chance. You wont be dissapointed in the long run.
Ezekiel 23:20 "There she lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses" (it's like something from a top-shelf magazine)
'No one brainwashed me or tried to force me into anything. The food was good & here i am now 9 years later a follower of Jesus!' I think you are contradicting yourself.
actually the alpha course is chance for people to ask any and all the quesions they want to ask. & it is up to them whether they let it change their lives for the better, or walk away with the same views.
i am sure "sane" people have enough sanity and control to decide for themselves what they want.
& its not just for the young.
I think its great because it allows you to make your own choices.
Ezekiel 23:20 "There she lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses" (it's like something from a top-shelf magazine)
A nasty spiteful course full of lies and deception. Avoid at all costs. They like to target the young (hence the glossy promo)as they're easier to brainwash.
Ezekiel 23:20 "There she lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses" (it's like something from a top-shelf magazine)
Ezekiel 23:20 "There she lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses" (it's like something from a top-shelf magazine)
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I am a member of Holy Trinity Brompton, where NIcky GUmbels preaches. I can tell you quite honestly that behind the scenes the knives are out. They are such control freaks. People who disagree are punished by being excluded from all social events, and can even be surrounded by bullies and physically removed.
The real church does not have hierarchy - there is no abuse of power - as there is at HTB
EmploymentPrograms 10 months ago
Lets say you are good at ABSOLUTELY NOTHING, all you do is watch other people succeed. Can this 'god' make me better? and at what?
OH WAIT, All god can really do is say YES, NO, and WAIT... so i what then? god gave me no hope for anything... i'd have to do all of it myself, so now what? where's god now? is he proud he 'made' me into a siccessful person even though he told me one word that barely meant anything to me because he can do anything. you know what? you aint got no pancake mix, God!!
ytpANTARES 1 year ago
Don't be duped by this evangelist propaganda. You don't need religion to tell you what to think or do. You are perfectly able to think for yourself. The bible is a book written by several authors, many of them far away from the events in time + space. It's an untrustworthy and superstitious source. Further, it is full or war, murder and revenge- I wouldn't want to derive my morals from it. Anyway, enjoy your life without having to fear an unprovable celestial supervisor or made-up"holy spirit".
Freethinking2010 1 year ago
@Freethinking2010 its why you never visit religious people in their sweaty ass country home... because they spend their lofe talking to an all powerful murderer that can kill them at any time...
ytpANTARES 1 year ago
There is no god, only delusion and emotional vested interests, meaning---people believe only because they want to. Christianity is incompatible with reason, logical thinking and rational standards of evidence.
socksumi 1 year ago
@socksumi is your own belief compatible with logic, if so how? You must assume that logic is absolute to claim that your reasoning is logical, correct? so, your claim that there is no god is logically compatible, is that correct? how do you know that?
suneelkondeti 1 year ago 2
@suneelkondeti WTF are you even talking about? Stop playing these sophomoric Christian mind games.
socksumi 1 year ago
@socksumi which part of it did you not understand about what i am talking?
suneelkondeti 1 year ago
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Why isn't hell mentioned in the old testament? Do Jews go to hell? Does Nicky Gumbel believe in evolution?
sweetsweatyfeet 1 year ago
I've just uploaded this as well, lol, nice to know I'm not alone then, cool. :).
RadioTrunews 2 years ago
Alpha "course" is not a course; it is a Christian indoctrination session disguised as a philosophy course. Very transparent.
sweetsweatyfeet 2 years ago
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This is a complete embarrassment in general and to humanity as a whole. These christian MANIACS are DISGUSTING FILTH. It is an insult to call a country christian.
Its a travesty that humans continue with this especially in the 21st century. it is now time to move on.
Sickening.
and please dont pull a quote from your centuries old little magazine.
you are all tramps. YOU CANT EVEN TRANCEND THE IDEA OF GOD. pathetic.
blu129 2 years ago 2
Is that the Man vs Wild guy on this vidoe? That is cool if he is. He does look like me thouth. I think he migth be a christain he just never uses Gods name.
topgun1544 3 years ago 5
is bear grill s christain??
awnsers please
daveymich 3 years ago
yes he is
DanielbedingfieldFP 3 years ago
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Alpha is about knowing 'another Yeshua (Jesus)'. Gumbel needs to repent asap.
Rug13y 3 years ago
what yeshua are you serving? Gumbel serves the real Biblical Yeshua. Are you Orthodox Jew and one who disavows Jesus? What's your problem?! Are you jealous of Gumbel drawing the thinking unbelievers to Jesus?!
mowriter 3 years ago
Great video and great course - I like the way that they dont make Christianity to be a rosy tinted lifestyle or old-fashioned 'flower-arranging but like real people. Respect for Bear Grylls. Try it.
carolweale 4 years ago 4
If we discover a desire within us that nothing in this world can satisfy, also we should begin to wonder if perhaps we were created for another world. C. S. Lewis,
booya baby! heaven is reality! we need to start acting like it!!!
drewpaveboards 4 years ago
For those of you who read this and laugh at the ridiculous amount of brainwashing that THEY have done to me, I will pray for you. Because through my beliefs, I know that God will work through me to help others capture the love and grace that Jesus has to offer.
God bless
kellanismyname 4 years ago
Lastly, I would like to say that this is just my opinion of what I have seen on comment boards like this. I applaud those of you who have gone on retreats like the alpha course, since it is obviously not easy to surrender your pride and leave it up to someone much greater than yourself.
kellanismyname 4 years ago
Someone can never completely describe an experience to another person without the other actually having that same experience. Also, many take societal influences like stand up comedy, news, and other secular media as fact. Much like a grade school classroom, rumors are spread about and it is very tough to figure out who is really telling the truth.
kellanismyname 4 years ago
-Selfishness. One's own selfishness and pride will not allow someone else to believe in something that may seem impossible to them.
-Jealousy. One's jealousy and envy towards someone almost always ends up in an agggesive attitude with the end result trying to discredit someone else's point of view.
-Misconceptions. One cannot have an experience without having experienced themselves.
kellanismyname 4 years ago
Why? I don't really know but I would guess that each persons reasons are fairly different but with some similarities.
kellanismyname 4 years ago
I personally believe that loving one another in this way is very difficult to secular persons since many believe that we are all mathematical probabilities. This belief that religion is human made and human manipulated is not important if a secular person truly believed in their own beliefs. But without proof or evidence, many discourage others from living great lives in servitude for others and God.
kellanismyname 4 years ago
I don't understand when some people feel they have to bring negativity into a great thing. This program gives hope and inspiration to thousands. No one is brainwashing or telling you what to believe. I personally believe that all people are called to love God through all aspects of their lives. Whether you believe this or not, this means that we are called to love one another, like we would like to be treated.
kellanismyname 4 years ago
Knowing that Bear is in ALPHA gives me more respect for him. Not because I respect Christians over others, but because he has the guts to put it out there and not be ashamed.
God speed brother.
tooberwoober 4 years ago
Bear Grylls is part of this alpha course stuff nonsense?! I used to think he was cool!
By the way, anyone who needs a book to tell them incest is wrong has some issues that that is will take more than the beta course to resolve. Chemical castration is probably your best bet.
Coruscator 4 years ago
The moral of the story my firend is Do not lust after the flesh because you will be dissapointed and God does not approve of being sexually out of control. We are designed for marriage & long term commitment. God also tells us not to do insest (See Romans 10) and Matthew 6:21
For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.
widdy2007 4 years ago
I went to an alpha course in 1999 after realising that djing and drinking heavily was not much to really live for. Anyway i had the chance to ask questions, to pray and to meet some nice people. No one brainwashed me or tried to force me into anything. The food was good & here i am now 9 years later a follower of Jesus! Dont hold back please give God a chance. You wont be dissapointed in the long run.
widdy2007 4 years ago
THE B I B L E & I N C E S T
Daughters having sex with their father: Genesis 19:30
Son having sex with his Mother: Genesis 35:22
Ezekiel 23:20 "There she lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses" (it's like something from a top-shelf magazine)
Whats the moral of the story?
ALAMINUK 4 years ago
'No one brainwashed me or tried to force me into anything. The food was good & here i am now 9 years later a follower of Jesus!' I think you are contradicting yourself.
Coruscator 4 years ago
actually the alpha course is chance for people to ask any and all the quesions they want to ask. & it is up to them whether they let it change their lives for the better, or walk away with the same views.
i am sure "sane" people have enough sanity and control to decide for themselves what they want.
& its not just for the young.
I think its great because it allows you to make your own choices.
chiquitab0nita 4 years ago
THE B I B L E & I N C E S T
Daughters having sex with their father: Genesis 19:30
Son having sex with his Mother: Genesis 35:22
Ezekiel 23:20 "There she lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses" (it's like something from a top-shelf magazine)
Whats the moral of the story?
ALAMINUK 4 years ago
Wow, sounds great! Will they tell me who actually wrote the bible??
Coruscator 4 years ago 2
A nasty spiteful course full of lies and deception. Avoid at all costs. They like to target the young (hence the glossy promo)as they're easier to brainwash.
twindilemma 4 years ago
ALPHA ROCKS!
Austy500 4 years ago
THE B I B L E & I N C E S T
Daughters having sex with their father: Genesis 19:30
Son having sex with his Mother: Genesis 35:22
Ezekiel 23:20 "There she lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses" (it's like something from a top-shelf magazine)
Whats the moral of the story?
ALAMINUK 4 years ago
Beautiful!!
I hope there will be alpha courses for catholics in Italy!!
God bless you!!!
desertbreeze81 4 years ago
THE B I B L E & I N C E S T
Daughters having sex with their father: Genesis 19:30
Son having sex with his Mother: Genesis 35:22
Ezekiel 23:20 "There she lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses" (it's like something from a top-shelf magazine)
Whats the moral of the story?
ALAMINUK 4 years ago