BENN | I Kill Trains...

[TheSantavivi]

Yuuuuu

[TheSantavivi]

Thumbing!

[19viper99]

I train zombies an give a map such as kino set totem training on the stage if the zombie got tired he would have his energy bac befor u get bac around to him then u just go around r a pe trains can not be stopped it is a perfect stratigiy

[1110jkl]

I do trains/circles but i just wich that they had slow zombies on highwaves it make it more challanging or like original verruckt on high waves there fast zombies and sprinting zombies who would accasionally block me if carring a heavy weapon slapping me every moment i move infront of them or there behind me

[DannyColes93]

I think that doing 'Trains' is essential now, but I don't think that you have skill if you do them. If you're doing them from; lets say round 5-15 then you're an idiot. But if you're trying to do something in particular like a challenge you set yourself or you want to see what the highest points that you can gain before you die. Then it is needed, apart from that, no.

[QuickitShadows]

D: I like Trains.

[JoesRandomReviews]

I think they should be an normal mode and a hardcore mode in the next zombies and have the ideas that benn has said in the hardcore mode normal can be how it is now. good idea or bad?

[TheBigAngryHobo]

I think that circles can be fun on some occasions. Like picking yourself back up if you die. Honestly, although, I prefer to just run around.

[ExtremeGamer9951]

breath*

[ExtremeGamer9951]

zombies only use their lungs to moan. they run till their legs literally give up. not bretah. and zombies are a result of a virus that mutates the brain.

[CAVEMENPRODUCTIONS87]

your with radaustins27

[LilMoutdoors]

While I admit that rape training or circle strategies require little skill, they're still not fool-proof. It's still entirely possible to be downed while using them and be downed consistently. You have to be decent at zombies in general to use any strategy to great effect. Making the zombies life-like or more like they are in other games is relatively pointless in my opinion. If something isn't broken, don't bother fixing it.

[Mik3andCr3am]

i only do rape trains when im messing around and Pack-a-punching random guns. so no it doesnt take any skill at all

[Out0fProportion]

Rape trains don't require skill, and they definitely don't enhance the enjoyment of the game. Anyone who has gone for a high score (personal or global) using rape trains always attests to the boredom that it comes with. The true excitement and fun in nazi zombies comes, at least for me, in the last frantic minutes of a game where you've reached a high round and you'd do anything to not have it go to waste by dying.

[Thewurldisours]

@IlGriMReaPeRzz Why you trippin niggah ;)

[thebatwingify]

DOUBLE CEE ZEE'S

[trevdog112]

I find it personnaly a stupid idea its just shows no skill

[HoboNum99]

it shoul be an on/off thing

[DevilDemon5200]

great video still would love to play zombies with benn

[Mrgoblin1411]

Oh and yeah make sure rape trains aren't possible, because there is a twat who makes lots of money because he does them, he would most likely fail miserably if the rape trains weren't available

[Weezygeeza97]

@Mrgoblin1411 amen to that

[Mrgoblin1411]

Treyarch are lazy coders, brilliant idea though

[SwiftyMcgee95]

anyone else notice benn had twodowns?

[pmtackett14]

The way I see it, circling the map or a certain area should only be used if you are trying to get to a high round in solo. I admit, sometimes I catch myself looping in a multiplayer zombies game, but I stop. Looping is muh different than running from one point to another going mental in the game. I love doing that.

[dhwlrqlrqod]

@Brian192813 Exception of Swask

[dhwlrqlrqod]

@DHerrera3942 Cause they're easy

[Djdaly11]

Heres my poimt of view,people who dont like circles dont have to run circles,the map still allows people whondont like circles to play the way they like to play,but if u take circles out the people who do like circles cant have fun the way they like to have fun,having circle strategies in the game doesnt hurt the people who dont like them,but if u take them out it hurts the people who do,no disrespect to u

[animatorbug]

circles are goodn for getting to high rounds, defending and running like crazy in random directions makes the game alot more dramatic and action-y if you ask me cuz u dont have any planned weapon usage or directions. i train only when im trying to beat some reconds

[Thewurldisours]

I think Benn should finish Zed -.-

[IlGriMReaPeRzz]

@Thewurldisours I think you should STFU :D

[ChocolateHeadcrab]

I may sound crazy...

but i think every weapon and perk should be a drop...

and the point system should be SCRAPED.

Tell me that doesn't sound cool. :)

[playthegameco]

@ChocolateHeadcrab A nice sub-game mode perhaps?

[bigboss3888]

@ChocolateHeadcrab either your trolling or you've never played dead ops? 

[DHerrera3942]

I literally was like WTF! why u change for the CZ?! then my mom was like 0_o

[Brian192813]

They should take rape trains off because ppl cheat to get to high rounds. And rape trains take no skills anyone can do that.

[JFreeman1123]

@runescaperzoco As was I!

[legitzebra77]

i think camping in certain rooms with your friends is alot more fun than doing trains. like on five me and friends use the small elevator to camp in and we would have a great time getting to rounds in the 20s rather than getting to round 40 by raping trains

[clickclickBoomMiss]

i believe trains tack an element of skill but are also efficient as in saving ammo and drawing the zombies away to save a team mate

[StareInToMe]

Well, I do circle trains in Solo to stay alive. ~

Not for Skill, Not for fun. Just staying alive.

[CoDZombiesEtc]

The only thing circles are good for are goin for super high rounds.... Thats it

[nowipoopwhileimpeein]

circles gets boring after about a minute

[xSodaHerox]

trains are easy so you can see more of the map. skill err.... nope :D

[kbr369]

i would pay to watch benn play zombies

[dapker]

I hate them but its hard not to do it sometimes.. if they put in the energy for the zombies that can would be epic

[newoldkid]

I saw Misszombielady!!!

[XploEhon]

I personally don't like rape trains. They don't show any skill what so ever and they bore the game much faster. When I play, I don't want to be knocking zombies down like dominoes, I want it to be more of a surprise around every corner. I also like to use the entire map because that adds more of what the game can do. Running a rape train in one area is just boring and doesn't show anything. And, it is possible to play the game without rape training, it just becomes a lot harder to survive.

[DasAtentater]

They should have a game mode where the zombies dont get any stronger but they start out weak but are maxxed out at 20. Zombies surviving 5 clips of a pap'd gun is probably what inspired training

[marcok2202]

Z? :(

[ShrednSamMusicOp]

answer to question at 0:53 YES but thats why we love YA!

[MrBubblesZX]

If they took George out of Call of the Dead, I would stop running circles at the Ak-74u spot. I think this idea is really good and should be in effect on Ascension where you can run a circle almost anywhere. (Personal favorite: MPL room) Other than that... I don't know if it should be in effect anywhere else. Maybe Kino?

[TheBoredomOtaku]

@MrBubblesZX George was there to discourage camping and glitch spots like people trying on high places the zombies could reach like the table on Five, George was bigger than the zombies, had more reach and took a hell of a lot to take down. It's a nice idea but the map was far too big meaning you could just have him strolling alongside his zombie minions just outside the lighthouse not really a threat. Him changing their run speed by roaring is a good idea but the map's too big to be effective.

[TheBoredomOtaku]

Since zombies are dead (in most cases) it's always been questionable as to wether they can tire out or not. For example they probaly don't feel pain and therefore don't feel hindered by lactic acid build up in their muscles meaning they could sprint for a long time and not "feel" tired but their muscles will start getting damaged. However I do love the idea of zombies tiring out or slowing down for their human body, maybe even tripping up like Asension or falling on their stomach and swiping

[thealexguy25]

i didnt know who syndicate was until they did the dual comm with benn and syndicate

[battlefieldfan4life]

There are maybe one or two trains that require skill the rest could be learned within a week by any dummy but the best can train and camp and run the map or even wing the best can do it all with any gun to if you rely on a wunder weapon you aren't that good on round 40 and higher I will admit for the sake of time they are a little necessary

[DynastyFPS]

From the perspective of an unwavering zombies fan, I really think some sort of change needs to be made. I will always love zombies but it has lost its challenge. It may not be what I proposed, but I believe we need something done to liven up Zombies again for the truly experienced and dedicated players.

[DynastyFPS]

I definitely agree with you on the "rape train" solution. I think implementing something to, as you said, give the zombies some sort of stamina. It may be a far stretch for some, but I believe the ability to select a difficulty may also really improve the current staleness that the circle strategy predicament is causing. I mean, think about it. We've always selected difficulties in campaign. So why not implement this in zombies? For those who feel it necessary to "rape train", they can do so

[hjjones123321]

benn you have gained MORE respect from me for this! rapetrains and boobies!

[hilebard]

i think you should be able to choose in the beggining of the game

[TheTOLPsycho]

You swapped the refibilator........fuuuuuuuuuu­uu

[SevonFivFore]

NNEB Media.. lol..

[ticklemeelmo357]

the only time i ever find zombies truely fun is by camping in a good spot and have them all run at us prtty much y der riese was so sucessful in my opinion was because of the cat walk were everybody camped

[runescaperzoco]

i would just like to state that i was subbed to PtG before i knew who syndicate was.

[TheBigAngryHobo]

@runescaperzoco Me too! Did you know that when youtube deleated users that weren't signed into youtube for a year or longer that Syndicate lost over 600,000 subscribers! Isn't that hilarious. This is old news but noone said anything about it!

[justwantwawmapsforbo]

@runescaperzoco want a fucking prize? 

[runescaperzoco]

i kill hookers

[Sug4rKane]

@runescaperzoco i like hookers

[june22black]

sounds like a good idea.i dont need to train to have fun

[TheComander44X]

people who have skill can train but also have fun and survive if they don't

[Bestjamesbond]

skill- no, trains necessary to have fun- hell no

[AdstarGaming]

I think rape training is okay but now it doesnt seem like people play legit because pon nacht people would not really camp , never rape train so it seemed fairly legit + nacht was tight , mow we have maps like cotd and accension which have huge open areas where people train , if maps had more tight areas e.g shang , five kindoff high rounds would seem much much more impressive

[kurtisgre]

4.26 and yerh safe, do what the fuck u want we dont care, do some dynamite cop on dreamcast gameplay please

[hihihihihihihi97]

The zombies never run out of stamina though..

[TheBoredomOtaku]

@hihihihihihihi97 In some versions of zombies in movies, books, comics, games they have limitations. They don't feel pain so they don't get that aching feeling humans get when our muscles tire out however that would mean theyed keep running anyway and lactic acid build up would severly damage them and slow them down as they keep trying to run. Some versions of zombies have been shown to run out of breath mid chase gasping as they grow more tired and slow down.

[pinkbirdsfly]

I think it would be good for Treyarch to do something ANYTHING to make rape training much harder if not impossible. With rape training anyone can get to a stupidly high round with little skill, they just have to spend hours and hours doing it.

[TheBoredomOtaku]

@pinkbirdsfly I agree with this. Rounding up, herding (I used to treat them like cattle before hearing the term train, I still call them hordes instead) on maps like Kino, Five and Shangri la are more fun than finding an open space to just have all the zombies in a big ball following you. I mean I first got to round 43 on Kino by doing laps around the map not knowing it would have been easier doing circles, when Ascension came out I circled and got to 63, I felt it was too easy and no fun.

[DetectiveHofman]

Rape trains take no skill....

[twodownmusic]

I Like Brains...

[tyrantstarscream]

@twodownmusic I love Benn.

[gangstaaaron7]

@twodownmusic lol this guy likes brains!

[RADAUSTINS27]

Ok my thoughts on it is it depends on the situation. As a zombie commentator training has made posting videos extremely frustrating these past months because other commentators have wasted hours apone hours getting to ungodly rounds and posting them online. This gave a general idea that your bad if you can't run in circles until round 100. The days where 4 player 30 rounds in W@W were legendary and the best. Training ruins games with friends and videos online, but if you want to do italonethengo

[gangstaaaron7]

@RADAUSTINS27 well it depends if u wanna have fun play with 4 people and if u wanna get far play with u and a friend. its simple. its just that easy. lol

[rararashan]

They wouldn't do that. It disrupts the game's core fundamentals and would disrupt the flow of the zombies. Good idea, but unrealistic in Treyarch's and the game of zombies' nature of making this game. If you're going to touch on that mundane realism, then you could argue that the players shouldn't be able to keep running, or at least be able to rejuvenate stamina within seconds.

[RADAUSTINS27]

lol i remeber this game! Oh the good times!

[TOLxRipper]

@RADAUSTINS27 hi rad

[NinjeticReflex]

i think that training isnt terrible, but going in tight circles is a little stupid... doing large or more challenging training is what i would do. isnt as boring.

[TOLxRipper]

@NinjeticReflex hey budday ::P

[NinjeticReflex]

@TOLxRipper lol hey

[colummbo]

That loud swallowing of your saliva is so fucking annoying and disgusting. It does not make you sound distinguished. lol

[GummbiDammit]

BOTH skill and a bit cheap..............

OH! Benn!!!!!!!!!!!!!! is there more files on zombie maps in the BO disc? AND!! why no more amnesia! YOUR THE BEST! benn

[violentXhamster]

Benn them running out of breath would make no difference what so ever -_- You would just walk not run

[theflame150]

It ruins zombies. On moon, there is ALWAYS that one guy who thinks he is good and he tries to rape train in Area 51. Then he dies, everyone else dies and I am forced to rape train until they all die so I can teleport. But usually they all leave before then >_<

[ZombieSlayingMachine]

@theflame150 arnt u great

[cheeseboymitch]

hi benn i love you and your vids and im glad to see you making one like this :D to answer your question i need to ask you one first i dont mind on der riese running from room the teleporter by revive using it then running back that's fine but say just in front of pack-a-punch or in the thompson room that's what i dont like because there is now skill involved thanks benn keep the vids coming :D

[PriceyPictureZz]

i think if u cld op that on solo as i like to get to 80,85 in solo but on multiplayer should be implamented also makes camping easier as they may not all be coming at u at once so that wld get rid of some people still trying to train

[Andrewszpoulshky]

You were playing with MZL?! The panda girl?!

[tanpirateaustin666]

Benn my ps3 name is tangpirateaustin we should nerd out sometime peace

[darkwizard26]

i rely whant a nother way of y surviving longer than training but taking moar skill or just making training harder to do and i think u have a rely good idea there ben

[MrCallumThomas]

Words of wisdom as always

[pugpugpug0]

Do you take dru- Oh wait, you said you don't, Ok nevermind.

[unboundluke319]

u high?

[rawrximxaxdinosawr]

I LIKE TRAINS! *ASDFMOVIE!* (Insert train here.)

[mal97yum]

good ideas, the only problem is that activision will want zombies to be as easy as pos so that it is easier for weak players to enjoy the game with taking the skill away

[harrisonrobottom]

I personally HATE rape training, Everytime I search for a match, Near enough every player is doing a train, even in Nacht der Untoten ¬¬ I've tried rape training many times and it just gets me killed, I'd rather run around shooting everything that moves in the face with a Commando than run around in a circle and occasionally using the Thundergun, I'm sure Syndicate isn't a bad player, Just annoys me that he rape trains 24 FUCKING 7. Benn's gameplays are so much better

[j6uj6u123]

how ...dead can be tired ? ...

[pugpugpug0]

@j6uj6u123 Well if you think about it, all living things gets tired and worn down, ants and lions, aligators and eagles. All living organism can get stressed out and break down, and there is only so much a body can take till it collapses without it wanting to, now as Benn here stated, zombies do not take a break or rest, so they would pretty much be "Tired" and slow down or even fall down.

[j6uj6u123]

@pugpugpug0 aha.alright ...i guess you're 150% smarter than me =)

[Z0mbieTurtle64]

great points looking forward to more of these.Rape training is just gets boring fast because your just running arrond in circles, doing trains arround the entire map is allot more fun or just killing all the zombies that you see is fun aswell

[PACKPANTHAUNCHAINED]

well.. i suck at zombies so 'rape training' is fun for me to get to high rounds. otherwise i just like to hold off an area with some mates. that's way more fun than rape training,

[IndyoThe13]

ITS NOT RAPE TRAINING ITS CALLED TEACUPPING

[tomwiddv2]

Very well played, but the fact its too subtle makes it too obvious.

Then again.. youtube audiences..

[zooyorksk8r2009]

i dont think being a better rape train-er makes you necessarily better at the game, to go to extremely high rounds i think its needed because if you think of maps like der riese where youre running the whole map, youd be using teleporters and barrier traps which definitaly get you in the end with the cost of points, where rape training would be lining them up and firing your gun scoring you more points, but much like any game if youre playing to have fun then those high scores mean nothing.

[LeTsKiLlSoMeZoMbIeS1]

@zooyorksk8r2009 exactly, there are ways to play zombies without trains and circle strategies

[LeTsKiLlSoMeZoMbIeS1]

Why you call syndicate an idiot "But Whyyyy?"

[ItsMrUndeadPixel]

I love your hate against syndicate :3

[EmerandTeddy]

How old is this gameplay!?

[TrvrGrubb]

watching this video makes me REALLY want to clear my throat ;)

[LeTsKiLlSoMeZoMbIeS1]

@TrvrGrubb yeah, that throat thing is kinda weird

[Bendaaus]

all i can say is this is a must

[LeTsKiLlSoMeZoMbIeS1]

I love your videos, but your voice kinda creeps me out sometimes lol

[MDotSerious]

YEEEEAAA P.T.G <3

[IlGriMReaPeRzz]

I like trains...