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  • Engineering Investigation revealed that the major causing factor for NLG vibrations is results during a perform a sharp U turn (180°) at both end of the runway and Departure which cause the nose tire flat spot.

  • After seeing a few videos of the airline company on YouTube, I honestly don't see how you guys have the courage to board one of those planes. I just saw one barely get off the ground; one that bounced up and down like a low-rider on landing; one that blew up on the ground in Okinawa as the passengers were evacuating; and now this one. I think to ride on that airline you must have a death wish.

  • what kind of moron is running video-cam REC on in the phase of Landing?

  • @neokorad Someone who realizes that they just tell you to turn off electronics so you pay attention to the flight attendants, and that having electronics on doesnt affect the plane in any way shape or form.

  • backtrack thats wats its called

  • DUMBASS.

    DUMB

    ASS

  • First time Flyer? :D

  • abeamarra is right, I been this airport many times. They had now parallel taxi way BEFORE, but now it's ready. So U-turn on the end of runway is no longer exist!

  • that flight attendant sounds cute

  • It's a turn around bay or area so if they miss the turnoff but, it makes more scence to just put a taxiway at the end it's pointless to turn around and takes up runway time. Not efficent

  • I agree, this procedure is also done in Abbotsford when they need to go to the other end of runway after landing. Same thing is seen in St. Maarten (watch some videos of the landing and process they do afterwards to get to the terminal as in using a turning bay!)

  • I think its obvious that this airport does not have a parallel taxi way towards the end of the runway. There are lots of airport like that all over the world wherein airplanes taxi on the main runway for take off or after landing.

  • ...Or there is no taxiway at the end of the runway...it is a very common turn and it is called backtrack....what is so different with that vid? i dont want to be sarcastic i just want to understand. cu :)

  • So what if the airplane made a U-turn on the runway? That procedure is pretty common. Besides, wether the wind was on the wrong direction or the pilots landed the wrong way, ATC would have given the pilots the correct vectors before landing, don't you think so?

  • I agree, the pilot landed into the wind, just take a look at the wind sock at 0:25 or 0:26. And many airplane do a "180" on the runway (according to the others it's backtracking [never knew that]), especially here in the Caribbean where some taxiways do not extend to the threshold of each runway.

  • I saw the wind socket, the pilot landed correctly. A lot of airports use runways as taxi ways, that is why at the end of the runway there is an extra extended asphalt section, to allow the airplane to do a 180.

  • No it can be the correct heading of the runway the plane turns 180 degreees backwards to continue taxi via the runway it is called a BACKTRACK so the plane can taxi faster then to the taxi ways and then gate

  • they are even doing it in the turning bay... nothing strange about this!

  • No need to say that.

  • A u-turn on a runway, huh? yeah, it's called "back taxi."

    "Apparently either the wind is in the wrong direction or that the pilots landed wrong way."

    nah, you're just a moron

  • @emdee93 And it is called your a moron, Because as you can see the airport does not have a parallel taxi way towards the end of the runways.

  • I often fly to China and within. They are always funny things happening in China when flying. I flew from Guanzhou to Shanghai with the first airbus using that route so I was told. When we arrive at the gate, the plane was too high so the plane was backed up and we went down the stairs in the tarmac. Hilarious.

  • Unfortunately, I have never had to back track, I've only ever flown from Manchester(EGCC) to Lanzarote (GCRR) and they both have taxiways at the end of the runway, haha, 5 star video though

  • They've got to improve their english...

  • lol everytime an chinese airhostess makes an announcement it sounds like their nose is stuffed lol, but it sounds HOTT!!

  • Because there is n o taxiway at the end of runway thats why a backtrack.

  • that is call backtrack taxiing on the runway and it i ver normal especially here in the Caribbean

    I would say this video is a 1/5 because of your title, but it would been a 5/5 because it was good recording and a good landing.

    That is just normal and nothing strange or unusual. I'm guessing that is probably or first or second time flying, mate.

  • the most common technique \executed by a pilot after landing on a one strip runway with no taxi way

  • Stupid Fuck the author of the video ha ha ha... yeah right they are gonna taxi off road to the ramp, think no more exits off a runway, somehow you got to get out of it right? thats what the fking drop turn to back taxi at the runway end is for!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • exactly..nothing but a "backtaxi"... as long as the tower approved it .... you're fine...

  • hehehe back track tw0611 haha

  • what's so funny?

  • Lol classic engrish at the end

  • O WOW A BACKTRACK!!! -_- standard stuff dude...

  • why is there a ! at the end of the title? what's the trick, i don't get it?

  • this is standard stuff..

  • 38 seconds into the video you see the runway exit they need to take....obviously they gota stop, turn around and vacate using that on...towards terminal

  • lol, thinking the pilots landed the wrong way....

  • its just a back taxi

  • The ICAO term is "backtaxi."

  • It's called a "Backtrack 180" very comon accurance....

  • There are several airports where a u-turn is necessary.

    Nothing unusual about this.

  • back tracking is common practice. nothing unusual about that... as a matter of fact it can be used to expedite the flow of traffic. I'm an ATC and i had an airplane do that to depart because 2 others ahead of it werent ready and were blocking up the taxiway

  • Ok, Luckily, the airports I use don't do that.

  • WOW he slammed that bird on the ground pretty hard lol

  • i was a good violent bump

  • whats so special about this??, its because of the landscape, there are no taxi ways, thus needing to use the runway

  • normal ... we call it back track in aviation world

  • I frequently fly and never experienced that. It might be common practice on small airfields but I would feel uncomfortable being longer on the runway than necessary. The danger of a crash with an incoming plane is just too big. In Frankfurt, Germany, for instance a plane is coming in every three minutes, that means, off the runway as fast as possible.

  • on runways such as this the air traffic controllers space the arrivals further apart

  • there is nothing wrong with a u-turn on a runway

  • aww her accent was cute

  • ...

  • It's called BACK-TRACKING!!! You do it when there's no taxiway!

  • LOL, "wind is in the wrong direction or that the pilots landed the wrong way" ROTFLMAO!!!......get a clue, it's called turning around and taxiing back, you do it at any and all airports with no parallel taxiway you idiot. Take a look at Ningbo on Google Earth, there is no parallel taxiway.

  • You who posted...MORON!

  • Who the hell is he??Idiot.....ha ha

  • What the Hell is wrong with that? No Big Deal!

  • Stupid descrption!! Just stupid

  • i think this runway is short.. like st marteen's Julian airport which have short runway.. the heavier aircrafts have to land then make U turn and head to park the gate.

  • wtf is wrong with that

    nothing!!

  • to vid uploader: if u want to attract more ppl to watch ur vid, why dont u use "Air China plane drift on the runway"

  • This is normal ...

  • worst accent

  • Comments are correct...may have been a little fast on landing; this would take them, perhaps, beyond the last taxiway. They then executed a "back taxi" to the turn off.

  • Cool but Broken

  • go the stewardess good shot at english!

    and the u turn is normal if there is no taxiway at the end of the runway

  • Stewardess was so cute speaking english :)

  • Do not use camera ,call phone, laptop

    When its landing

    Do you know that?????!!

  • dude a camera is fine unless you built in a phone into it because camera don1t send signals or receive so it won`t interfere with communications with the pilot and the control tower

  • what is taxiway??

  • limited taxiway at that airport my fried, so they had to make a backtrack.

  • Thats totaly normal....it just called backtracking...its common practice at airports with limited taxiways

  • backtaxiing

  • No....Backtracking

  • Dosent matter both are right

  • Normal!

    No taxiway at the end of the runway, what do you do? Taxi on the grass? or max a "U-turn"?

  • I have been on a number of flights that come into smaller airports that you have to do the big u-turn at the end of the runway. This includes China, India, and even in Canada. I would bet it happens in all countries.

    It is very normal!

    Many years ago I was on one of these u-turn flights where we had to buzz the runway first to clear birds and other animals, then land and make the u-turn. A bit unsettling when you do this the first time as a novice passenger into this airport.

  • that land looks really really flooded

    and that runway is made for u-turning

  • On the info part...how can the pilot land the plane in the wrong direction? The runway number is the heading of the runway, and almost every plane land with ILS, which require you to enter the frequency of the ILS of the runway into the radio stack thing, each runway way number have a diff frequency, so its impossible to land the wrong way..and theres no point of U-turn if wind change direction >.>

  • The wiring is all magnetically shielded.

  • To all you idiots talking about the camera itself... ALL ELECTRONIC DEVICES CREATE A SMALL MAGNETIC FIELD! SO if you happen to be sitting close to one of the Nav or Comm antennas you could possibly disrupt that signal.

  • Do you actually know what the fuck you are talking about? Dumb ass!

  • and every object in the world has a gravitational pull and gravity is part of magnitism am i right??

    so technically humans have a small magnitectic field so ur saying teh pilots in the cockpit will make the insturments mess up???

  • runway 9/27, if you have to take off from 27 you have to back taxi, you get into runway taxi to the end and U-turn. If you land at 9 and you stop at the end or near the end, you have to do the same thing. This also happens in a lot of airports around Mexico and China. So, please don't say this is dangerous because it ain't.

  • Um.

    First of all, this ain't dangerous, it's a procedure that most pilots have to do in a daily basis.

    Second of all, it's called back-taxi, as you can see, there are no taxiways at both sides of the runway (at the end), therefore the aircraft has to turn around and get to the first taxiway, and don't expect it to taxi on the grass.

    As said before, daily basis, this happens in a lot of airports around the World. For exmple, you have St. Marteen (TNCM, SXM) runway 9/27(will continue next post)

  • I don't see anything wrong. Apparently, the runway was very short, so there was not enough space to leave the runway through an exit.

    Therefore, the pilot turns around and heads to the next exit to enter the taxiway.

    Happens a thousand times a day.

  • lol for a sec, i thought its goin to take off again. imagine that happen and the poilot goes "opps, wrong airport"

  • humurous,huh

  • Surely the video equipment isnt allowed to be on in the first place? They always tell you to turn anything electronic off during take off and landing.

  • Well a Camcorder does not send nor receive signals like a cellular phone or remote control car that sends signals but a camera is a device that does not interfere with communications between the pilots and the Tower.

  • To UAL4ever: UAL sucks, dont fly with them. ul get treated like crap my friend. also, its not the communications that the electronics interfere with, usually it is the nav equipment, but still most electronics do nothing to aircraft, because the FCC allows them to operate only on certain frequencies unoccupied by aviation. The PIC tells u to turn that stuff off because it eliminates any and all possibility of bad things happening, and tis his call anyway... if that made sense haha

  • If tower instructs a plane to back taxi, the pilot wilco. The OP knows nothing about flying.

  • O come on, planes make u-turns on runways all the time esp at small airports. In Cairns, Australia, widebodies like CX's A330 make u-turns on a regular basis. Many airports in the world don't come with a full taxi-way system. That's why the main runway has to double up as taxi-way. The English announcement wasn't great. But this is a 2nd tier domestic route to a regional town called Ningbo. Can't expect too much.

  • wow! This is so dangerous!

  • speak engrish

  • her chinese version clearly said, 16C, 48F

    her english version was not clear about the celsius, 16 or 60? but you have to blame britons coz they invented these two words which are so confusing to each other. you can't blame this girl.

  • she said very clearly in chinese the ground temperature is 16C, or 48F

    if 16C, then

    =16*9/5+32=60.8F

    in the previous comment i said i feel guilty that i didn't teach her physics well so she was not able to conevert thermal units very well.

    but after reading all comments, i have plead guilty for having committed a crime: i didn't teach all the people on the planet the physics very well.

  • i am A chinese and feel pretty guilty that i didn't teach her physics very well:

    she said the bround temperature of Ninbo (an excellent seaport of china) is 16 celsius or 48 F

    obviously, she knows the constant "32", but she does not know the coefficient for the linear part: 5/9

  • dude.... why do you think the extra wide runway (at the end, visible at 1:20-ish) is for....

    how the hell do you want to go to the gate otherwise?.... planes don't have offroad tires...

  • its usual in smll airports whit smll planes..and 4 the next time ..turn O F F ur camera in landngs!!!!

  • get on MS flight simulator and try a jet landing at ningbo airport....see how can you taxi to gate without a "u-turn" on rwy

  • Nothing unusual about back-taxiing on the runway at all. In fact I just had to back-taxi at an airport 2 days ago. Not every airport has great taxi ways everyone. Also taxiway contruction seems to be the norma nowadays.

  • Dude smaller airports dont usually have taxiways theres nothing wrong with that manouvere

  • whats wrong with that guys?

  • So you can see how a volcano could've effected one airline but not the other.

    THINK about your own SAFETY.

    Would you rather fly through a cloud of volcanic ash which will cut the flow of air into engines. NO flow, NO power, No fly.

    Stuff happens.

  • lmao alot of comments in here, chinese dont speak english they spaek mainly cantonese and mandarin, and no r.

  • That airport just doesn't has a taxi way,nothing wrong

  • back track? where in the point 65 is that. dumbass

  • this is call back track runway

    nothing wrong because there is no taxi way at the end of runway so we need to backtrack

  • the vid poster is stupid and funny

  • safety record?

    you must mixed CHINA AIRLINES and AIR CHINA.

    go wiki, AIR CHINA has a good safety record.

    but you say english, yes, i've seen that vid. they have to improve their eng when they fly international lines.

  • sounds like chinese alrigth

  • There is no problem with this u-turn (which is actually called a back-taxi) the pilot is simply turning around to comply with the air traffic controlers taxi instructions. Hope this helps :-D

  • Wow, all the PIC did was execute a turn-around near the end of the runway. You can even see the runway bulging out at the end -- a sure sign that the portion where the PIC executed the turn-around was designated for such a purpose.

  • I highly doubt that two fully trained pilots and an air traffic controller would allow a plane to land the "wrong way" on the runway - that is if there is a wrong way.

  • I've said it many times on the radio... "Chippewa traffic, Cherokee seven-eight-romeo backtaxiing runway one-six at Chippewa." In the winter at that particular airport (KCIU) the parallel taxiway is closed, and you have to backtaxi. You call on the radio to let other aircraft know that you're still on the runway.

  • What's wrong with U-turn on the runway. Many small airports do not have several exits on runway, and the runway is actually the taxiway itself. You can see that on the left side, the runway expands, especially to allow aircrafts to do u-turns ...

  • No, it's called a back-taxi, but 'back tracking' as a description of what you're doing is acceptable. Pilots allowing filming from the flight deck is a contentious subject, but passengers aren't allowed to do it so that their full attention is on the attendants. Pilots wouldn't have that problem.

  • @@~Hey, I think you must follow the instruction that YOU MUST CLOSE ALL YOUR MOBILE/CAMERA..WHEN THE PLANE IS TAKING OFF OR LANDING. It is very dangerous for you to do it.

  • actually handycanms are safe just the mobile that releases radio/frequerncy waves which affects the communication between the Tower/Aerospace Center of the destination

  • Oh really?~ As I heard that all electronic item must be off. And when the plane ready for landing, the staff requested us to off the camera too.

  • toastno6, back-taxi?

    I think you meant BACKTRACK...

  • That flight attentend is soo sexy when she talks english :-P

  • funny pilot

  • If you were to actually watch the video, you would see that there are no dedicated taxiways. Simple backtaxi. Nothing to see here.

  • there could have been many circumstances the plane may be in. At one of my local airports, it has an intersecting and has no taxiways at the end of one runway. All planes landing at that runway has to turn back! Maybe that was the problem!

  • the pilot just missed his assigned taxiway lol

  • can ya see the runway is for U-turn

    you little stupid guy

  • CALLED BACKTAXIING

  • Go get a Taxi way chart and you will know why the plane is taking a U-Turn at the end of the runway, because the Runway is also the taxi-way! This is very common in small airport, unless you want the 733 taxing on the grassfield!

  • looks like the plane is ready to take off again

  • umm... this "u-turn" is known as "backtracking" to pilots and ATC. It does NOT mean that the aircraft landed the wrong way or whatever else, it means that there was not a taxiway at the end of the runway for the aircraft to exit the runway on. Therefore, the aircraft must backtrack on the runway to the nearest available taxiway to exit the runway.

  • i dont know why the title is U turn on runway i think the videographer doesnt really know regarding this all aircrafts are capable of making a U turn on a runway

  • he didnt over shot the runway its just a short runway thats why at the end of the runway it gets wider so bigger airplanes like the 737 can turn around, they do the same thing at st maarten airport

  • its not just ireland that have 2 turn off teir mobiles in an aircraft,that goes 4 alitalia,swissair,futura and another italian 1 called volareweb

  • there is absolutely nothing wrong with this backtrack.

  • 60 degrees Celsius and 48 degrees Fahrenheit at 01:35 or am I going crazy??????????

  • haha

  • It's 16 Celsius. I can hear it in the Chinese. The stewardess just has a little accent.

  • It's 16 Degrees Celsius.

  • I heared it 60 too

  • backtrack...that is pretty normal,some airport doesnt have a taxiway(i mean the whole taxiway as lenght of a runway like in JFK or San Francisco,etc.),if you go to St. Maarten,airplane always backtrack. so the airplane on this video is backtracking normally,nothing wrong with that.

  • Wow why was this posted? The only thing worse then a pointless post is one posted/Commented on by somebody who knows nothing about aviation. They didn't land with a tail wind, check at 25 seconds you can see the wind sock. They didn't "U-Turn" it's called a backtrack the fact there is a turn around bay at the end means that this is done all the time. This a non-event come up with a video of substance and then post it but only after learning what you are talking about.

  • He over shot and he had to turn around to get to a taxiway

  • It wouldn't make sense for them to make a uturn even if they landed with a tailwind. I don't understand what you are trying to say in the description.

  • my guess is that there was no taxiways at the end of the runway so they had to do a you turn and use a taxiway that they had already passed, I think they may do that at Princess Juliana Intl aswell, just a guess.

  • According to the wind sock visible near touchdown, the landing direction was correct.

  • i can't belive i knew what she said i can spak chinese i was amazed!

  • Thanks for the info. It was one of the interesting landing strips. No frills. No problems too. Ningbo is less polluted than Beijing since it is near the coast.

  • fatguppy. Ningbo has only one runway with two short taxiways at center of the runway. So far, at any landing conditions plane has to travel to the opposite end of the runway (unless it's small enough to turn in the middle of runway) make U-turn, go back to the middle and exit to the taxiway ;)

  • horrible english translation.....needs to learn more english! You can't use cell phones after the plane has landed and is taxiing to the gate on Chinese airlines??? On US airliners, cell phone use is permitted after landing while the plane is taxiing to the gate. I'M SUPRISED!!!

  • simply learn chinese, dude :D... the flight is mostly occupied by chinese, why should they care about few ameicans onboard :)

  • you are right~~~

  • U need to learn more Chinese as well, cuz, 我在 日 你妈 u dont even know..

  • slangs ..

    i hate the attitude of you ...

    btw .. i'm a chinese as well ..

    also .. i don't think that learning chinese is necessary ...

  • cell phones not allowed on the ground in Canada either

  • uh, cellphones are not permitted once the door is closed on departure and they're allowed on arrival when the wheels touch ground. get your facts straight.

  • Actually your wrong. This is the case in the US, but not in Canada or many other countries. Note I did mention the regulation as it pertains to Canada. Check the CARS before you post.

  • it is a case in Canada, lot's of regional airports required a u turn on runway both before take off and after landing, normal thing.

  • Mobile phone are not allowed until you are in the terminal building.

  • If you fly on Irish airlines you are not allowed to use mobile phones while on an aircraft.

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