@Imappleboy Verizon and AT&T both cost the same. By the way, how are your dropped calls and throttled 3G speeds? I'll be enjoying by 20-40mbps HTC Rezound 4G LTE phone which is faster than fauxG HSPA+ on AT&T.
Funny a smartphone is on the island of misfit TOYS...i mean the little kid must be spoiled as heck if he/she gets some sort of smart phone despite the coverage....lol and while all the other toys are like toys from the 40s or 50s...lol.
fuk att - tried to bill me $1800 believe it or not-- all because of att dumbass phone which doesn't work well was malfunctioned- insomnia data used itself- charged 50 cent per kb reached 16gb
I'm in san Diego at&t speeds are faster than any carrier download speed average 2.5mbps dowloads average never go below 1.0mbps verizon download less than 1.0 Mbps on both download & up loads besides att use gsm 80% of the world use that CDMA slow as fuck that why verizon sucks hasp+ is nation wide 4g speed on att
@leom760442 There we go!!! someone knows Verizon is lying with its own statistic world... iPhone4 on AT&T is constantly beating Verizon's iPhone by at least 30% and up to 2000%!
@calamityedgar420 it must be a miracle to see a SUCK company like AT&T to be #1 in wireless industry. They caught up from being 20+ million behind the Verizon(the so called being the best network proclaimed by both users and themselves) in 2007. Verizon had 86 million subscribers in 2007 and how the hell did AT&T surpass them with 96 million in less than 3 years?? Verizon needs to think about their problem... if they are really the most reliable network....
@leom760442 Sprint gets 7-8 Mbps down and 1-2 Mbps up. Hell, even T-Mobile gets 3-5 Mbps up and 1-3 Mbps up. Verizon has LTE when the Thunderbolt comes out thats 5-12 Mbps down and 2-4 Mbps up.
Forget ATT AND Verizon, I switched to NET10's unlimited plan for only 50 bucks a month and I'm never going back to a contract with Verizon again. Net10's network runs on BOTH Verizon AND ATT towers so I get the best of both worlds (GSM and CDMA). Not one of my calls have ever dropped and my LG900G smartphone is so much easier and simpler to use than the iphone (I can't stand the touch typing.. I need a physical keyboard). NET10 For the win!
Actually, AT&T isn't 10x faster than verizon. I have the iPhone 4 on AT&T and, with both phones in full service, it barely beats my father's droid x on verizon during speed tests and video downloads. I'm talking like a few seconds. Considering that my coverage sucks with AT&T, and I almost never lost signal with verizon, I'll be ready to swap come next month
I live in Albuquerque, NM. I switched from Verizon a few months ago to get the iPhone4. I love my iPhone4 due to all the useful applications available for it, the simple use, quality construction and always fast processor speeds. The coverage in Abq is good but outside city limits it's okay. Verizon used to provide me good service just about everywhere. I won't switch back to Verizon until they get the iPhone operating on 4G with facetime anywhere and unlimited data plan.
They forget to mention that AT&T's 3G coverage is about 10x faster then Verizon's and that Verizon's 3G coverage is only slightly faster then AT&T's EDGE connection, which is available in more locations then Verizon's 3G or even 2G. And no, I'm not an AT&T fanboy, I have a hacked iPhone 3GS on T-Mobile, just stating the facts.
Well I have AT&T and have had it for 4 years now, the last dropped call I got was when I was on Verizon. And whenever I went inside a building, my signal went blank while my AT&T and Cingular friends had coverage. (I live in Atlanta, not the middle of nowhere) So I decided to switch to Cingular, which became AT&T and I haven't had a problem since. And my iPhone 4 Internet is not slow at all! I am not switching back to Verizon for the iPhone just to have features like simultaneous talk and data
lol nice one verizon!!! i have to agree with this commercial, but thats just my personal experience from where i live. i cant wait for the verizon iphone!!!!
AT&T have same coverage as verizon verizon 93.2 total Custumer AT&T 92.8 verizon only ahead by 400 thousand customers they are going to take #1 again this january 2011 when they report quater ernings if att is the bad why do you stupid att haters think they have all those customers for bad services fk u all
For all the people saying Verizon wireless is expensive my last bill was $40 with unlimited texts and I went a bit over my minutes and besides I'd rather pay more for good coverage than less for crappy coverage.
at&t has no coverage at all i have friends who got the new iphone thinking that they would get better coverage but it didn't improve a bit. with verizon i get service almost everywhere while my friends have no service at all.
@gunspinner101 no they have more basic coverage and they even count barely enough service to keep a call for a minute. These maps are for 3G coverage meaning quality service something at&t doesnt know about
@gunspinner101 The court ruled against AT&T, saying that both of Verizon's maps were factually accurate enough to stand. The maps shown are for 3G coverage. If you look at the 3G part of the map on AT&T's own website, it matches the map they show here. A large part of the non-3G coverage on AT&T's map is actually borrowed coverage from other carriers, and AT&T will actual cancel your coverage if you use it too often, which means if you live there, you effectively can't use AT&T.
@SunosTheBard the map that doesnt have 3g coverge has more then verizon, if you notice, verizon is making at&t look like that ALL coverage is like that when its not. And also you said if you use the 3g coverage too often they will cancel it is not correct. You can use it all you want. I have the iphone 3G and I use it like 24 7. The map of coveridge is correct is infact true. But You can tell that they are trying to say make you think that it is all AT&T. but they got in some hot water anyway.
@gunspinner101 Both maps used in the Verizon commercial are only 3G coverage, because Verizon is trying to point out that to do anything more than call or text, you want 3G, and AT&T's 3G coverage is pathetically small. They never say that the map represents ALL coverage, just 3G, which is arguably the important one.
I did not say they will cancel 3G use. I said if you use any service in the areas of the map that are striped, they will cancel, which is stated on AT&T's site, in fine print
@gunspinner101 ALSO, even with all coverage included Verizon still covers a large amount more than AT&T, which can be clearly seen by comparing their maps.
Both maps in the Verizon commercial are entirely true, and compare the same level of service, so are also fair game for comparison.
They got in no hot water, AT&T's comeback commercials are largely derided for dodging the issue, and the court ruled in favor of Verizon. They are clearly in the right on this issue.
@SunosTheBard some info that you said is true but agian wrong. I did my resarch. But OK Whatever.Say what you want. What ever helps you sleep at night.
@gunspinner101 Which info was wrong? My "research" came straight from the companies own websites.
Don't need your permission to say whatever I want, much less to simply say the truth.
Whatever helps me sleep at night? A tad overdramatic phrase to use in a discussion about a simple accuracy dispute among cell phone carriers, don't you think?
@SunosTheBard you keep saying that at&t's coveridge is always among 3g when it's not. Verizon is saying that at&t's all coveridge is the map they keep showing in the commercial. Thats why they got in a big fight. Thats why they got this in court. Thats why you dont see these commercial's anymore. Right now more people are going to at&t since the U.S is in some bad aconomy beacuse verizon is just too expensive.I have to admit, verizon has some nice phones but its alot of $. At&t is just as good
@gunspinner101 No, I never said that AT&T ONLY offers 3G coverage, and NIETHER IS VERIZON. They are saying that AT&T's 3G coverage is pathetically small, and since using most of the cool stuff on a smart phone (like iPhone) needs 3G to run at a decent speed, it's a valid criticism.
I DO still see these commercials, because Verizon WON the lawsuit.
Verizon didn't CAUSE the bad economy like you imply, and their prices are equitable to AT&T's
@SunosTheBard I never said that verizon caused bad economy. I said that there phones are too expenive ( God, I HATE it when people say you said something when they didnt, But ok, whatever helps you sleep at night (agian). My uncle works for tehcinician in both company's so he can tell me whats really going on instead of the publics opinnions and facts. I do agree but not 100%, good day.
@gunspinner101 The way this sentence is written: "Right now more people are going to at&t since the U.S is in some bad aconomy beacuse verizon is just too expensive" states that the U.S.A is in a bad economic situation BECAUSE of verizon's prices. It was copied and pasted from your post. I did not put words in your mouth. YOU have been putting words in my mouth, and that of verizon, since the beginning.
Also, your faux dramatics and propriety are insincere, rude, and irrelevant.
@SunosTheBard good for you buddy. Think what YOU what to think. I dont hate verizon. My family has verizon and I did too. I switch to at&t because it is cheaper. Same with alot of friends and people. What I am saying isint rude or dramatic or insincere. do you know what "what ever helps you sleep at night" means? So you know it means think what YOU want to think and what ever makes you happy. Go ahead say what ever makes you happy if it is true or not you can say whay you want. Is that rude?
@gunspinner101 Actually, "whatever helps you sleep at night" is a phrase implying that the person you are talking to is using moral and situational justifications to help them deal with guilt of the knowledge that whatever they are really doing is incredibly morally evil or wrong. Even were I to be wrong here (which I'm not) a disagreement over cell phone carriers hardly justifies that level of moral rhetoric. Also, your poor spelling and punctuation make it hard to tell what you mean.
@SunosTheBard wow. Considuring that fact that you care about my grammar and spelling is just rediculous. whoever told you the fact that it is "evil and wrong" to say that phrase " what ever helps you sleep at night" has something wrong with them. I fact I bet you copied and pasted that off the internet. nothings "rude" to the phrase, teachers at my school even said it. including people at my church. We you consider a holy person saying your evil? I wouldent think so.
@gunspinner101 normally I don;t correct people on minor spelling or grammar mistakes, as most of the time it's just mildly annoying. I only pointed it out here because I am actually having trouble reading and understanding some of the things you are saying. That is bad for both of us.
I never said it was evil and wrong to USE the phrase "whatever helps you sleep at night". You missed the point entirely, please re-read my post.
People at your church arn't holy. They just go to church.
@SunosTheBard yes you did say it was evil and wrong to say the phrase, dont be a retard. I didint even miss the point, I know exactly what your saying.
@gunspinner101 I honestly did not say the phrase was evil, and you really did miss the point. Please get someone whose intellect you respect to read what I said and explain it to you, if you feel unable to trust me.
I said that the phrase implies that you think the person you are talking to is engaged in evil acts. Not that the phrase itself is evil.
@SunosTheBard countuning my last comment. You say that at&t's 3g coveridge is pathiticaly small right? well thats is a bust and incorrect. You said that there 3g coveridge was right on that map in the commerical right? incorect agian! to my coculations, public, and the internet, in the map it shows that at&t's coveridge barley covers 4 states! that is a BIG lie. the area that it shows were I live has no coveridge whatsover and I have the most powerful at&t coveridge with tons of at&t stores!
@gunspinner101 Assuming you meant "calculations", of which I doubt you did any, you are wrong again, in several ways. FIrst being the size of states varies wildly, so they are a poor system of measurement. The area depicted could cover up to 12 smaller states or 2 huge ones. Second is that the area they indicate is lifted straight form AT&T's map. Third is that I do not believe you have used diagnostic equipment to justify the statement that you receive the most powerful coverage.
@SunosTheBard once agian still over my spelling errors? The only reason why I spell wrong is because I type 75 mpm, so stop freaking out over that. 1 the size of state does NOT vary acording to size. Verizon happened to hear rumors of the actual map size so they went with the flow and put it in. If you dont belive me (which I highly belive) go to yahoo answers home page and look it up. 2 it is not from at&t's map, stores dont give competitors information. 3 its not my problem you dont belive me
@gunspinner101 It's much better to type intelligibly at 50 wpm than unintelligibly at 75 wpm. My statements hardly qualify as freaking out.
I don't understand how you can disagree that not all states are the same size. Look at a map and compare Rhode Island to California.
Verizon and AT&T both have their maps up on the internet, for everyone to see. Verizon took their information from those maps. I don't know what you think I meant.
If you really cared so little, then we wouldn't be talking.
@SunosTheBard you can think that all info on the computer can be correct right? wrong! both companies have been giving false info to the people buying and were caught throuhout year 2009-2010, how would you know they are telling the truth? On each other?
@gunspinner101 "you can think that all info on the computer can be correct right?" I never said that I believe anything on a computer, though you seem to think I do.
I expect both companies to exaggerate their coverage and lie a little, that's what big corporations do. However, unless you know of an independent coverage analysis company we can rely on, all we have to go on are the companies own claims. Even taking exaggeration into account, Verizon's coverage is bigger than AT&Ts.
@gunspinner101 I'm unsure what you are trying to say here:
"Verizon happened to hear rumors of the actual map size so they went with the flow and put it in. If you dont belive me (which I highly belive) go to yahoo answers home page and look it up."
Please clarify. Carefully, if possible. Just pretend I'm stupid and you need to type very slowly and clearly for me to understand.
@SunosTheBard wow your are the biggest jerk I have ever talk to in my life. Shut the hell up man! "act like im stupid to talk to me?" god your such a douchbag. Verizon heard acts and rumors from other Co. so thats what they put on at&t's maps. wow your retarded for not knowing what go with the flow means, if not you dont know mordern english launguage, your just going to send me some stupid fact info about what slow /w the flow means, your probably a vergin living in yours mothers house at 30
@gunspinner101 If I'm the biggest jerk you've ever met, then either you have lived a very sheltered life, you live with saints, or the people around you treat you specially to avoid causing you to overreact like this.
Verizon most likely didn't have to rely on rumor to look up AT&T's coverage, as it's available to the public on AT&T's website. Even if they did, how would you find evidence that Verizon relied solely on rumor? The court that tried the case ruled in Verizon's favor.
@SunosTheBard still over your stupid facts? Cant you take some exaggeration? I didnt think so because you have nothing better to say. I would know because I have said before that my uncle is a technician there and can tell me what is going on there and at at&t.
@gunspinner101 Sorry, but a comparison of our respective personalities does not intrest me, only the facts related to this issue and even discussing those is growing tedious.
Having an AT&T technician as an uncle does not qualify you as an expert on this subject. For that to approach validity you would need family members working in both companies at many levels, and you would need to spend a significant amount of time consulting them.
@gunspinner101 For someone who JUST got angry with me for using one swearword out of exasperation, you have really flown off the handle. There is a phrase for this situation and since you seem to enjoy them I'll try it out: "You're a pot calling the kettle black." There's some modern english for you.
I know what go with the flow means, I just think your usage of it is poor.
30? Just a while ago you said you didn't believe I was an adult, which would mean I would have to be 17 or younger.
@SunosTheBard I didint get ANGRY over a swear word. I just though it was very queer of you to say that I was being rude when you were the one saying the rude things. You just said that I got Angry over a word when you got all worked up over "what ever helps you sleep at night" "You're a pot calling the kettle black." is not a mordern year thing in 2010 what are you a poligamist thinking back then? Is the age of 30 not an adult? I said if you Were an adult your immature. Get your facts right.
@gunspinner101 You definitely became angry. After the post in which I used "damn" you began using a flood of curses and personal insults. it isn;t odd for me to point out the truth. I was saying that you were being rude and trying to hide it. I openly admitted that I dislike your typing style. No hiding there.
I did not become angry about "what helps you sleep at night", if anything it made me laugh. You were still using it excessively, which is all that I was trying to point out.
@gunspinner101 I hear people use the pot/kettle phrase all the time, and your polygamy comment is just bizarre.
The age of 30 is most certainly above the age of adulthood, which is why I pointed it out. Shortly before saying I was 30 you implied that you would find it very hard to believe that I was an adult at all. Not that big of a deal, because you havn't come close to my actual age on either attempt. I was just pointing to a specific example of how contradictory some of your statements are.
@SunosTheBard countinuing agian. The 3g coveridge in verizons say it cover's 92% of the US including some parts in mexico, and canada on there home page. and At&t barely covers 30% LIE!. Go to the at&t store and see the REAL map and its just the same amount on verizon (the map is 3g by the way)You keep saying that verizon never said it was all coveridge in the commecials right WRONG! acording to the t.v. and internet, when the motorola driod came out verizon put a 3g commerical falsing at&t...
@gunspinner101 AT&T's map does NOT depict an area of the SAME size as Verizon's. I have brought up both maps side by side every time before posting just to make sure I am not incorrect. The map of AT&T's coverage on their website is fleshed out with the borrowed coverage, which they state in the info box of their own map costs extra and can void your contract. The map of AT&T on Apple's site is even smaller. As far as area covered, Verizon's percentages are correct, give or take 1-3%.
@SunosTheBard 1-3%? you really belive 1-3%? if so something is worng with you. I went to the web site and it was only all coveridge not 3g. So dont depend on that being your right answer. for the billion time freakin look at there OWN map at there store! Apple is its own company (besides working on the iphone) so dont there cuculations to be right ethier. Internet is not always right my friend. if this really concerns you cha cha it on your phone to see what % 3g coveridge at&t has.
@gunspinner101 Go to Google and type in the words: "at&t coverage map" and click on the first link. Zoom in one unit and check the box that says show mobile broadband. The dark blue area that appears is their 3G coverage. Only the dark blue is 3G. Compare it to the Verizon commercials and the map on Apple. They are very similar.
Telling me that I cannot trust the internet and then instructing me to use an unregulated internet answer site to prove your point, is contradictory and a little silly.
@SunosTheBard there is no link to at&t coveridge map. How is not trusting the internet "silly" half of things on the internet are not true, things on google, wikipedia, answers, etc... are not true. Theres nothing "silly" about that
@gunspinner101 I just double checked my instructions, and had several friends follow them, and they all found the link. It is the one name AT&T Coverage Viewer.
I didn't say that not trusting the internet was silly, I said that you telling me not to trust the internet, and then telling me to trust the internet in the very next sentence, is silly.
@SunosTheBard I cant find the link to the at&t map. I must not have it. I never instructed you to use the internet. I SAID TO CHA CHA IT ON YOUR PHONE! Cha Cha is NOT a internet sight retard. Its a place were you text and they look it up and give info to the question you asked GET IT now? You probably DONT have I life. like I said someone who doesnt know what cha cha is, is not in modern day.
@gunspinner101 Try copy pasting "AT&T Coverage Viewer" into google. I'd link it, but youtube won't let me.
They do have a website. Type in chacha.com.
I am aware of how the chacha service works. They hire people with general knowledge to look up the answers to the questions you sned them. They use the internet to find these answers. Want to know how I learned this about them? It's on that website of theirs.
As to wether I am modern day: I make video games, how archaic can I be?
@SunosTheBard ok agian.. motorola driod featured a commerical saying. " faster 3g coveridge than there at&t. That includes all coveridge. Get the new motorola driod starting at only 199.99 blah blah blah blah hear That?"includes ALL coveridge". You told me that they never acused when they did right live on the internet and t.v. (the commercial was when the first driod came out over at&t's iphone 2g or 3g) You see you have giving fase info this whole time some are correct others arent good day
@gunspinner101 Link this video where they claim that AT&T's 3g coverage is their total coverage. I can't find it. Also, clean up your damn sentences, I feel like a codebreaker trying to understand you. They did accuse AT&T of having poor coverage, which is true. What accusation are you referring to? They did what live? I havn't seen a Verizon commercial broadcast LIVE before. Your last sentence is nearly unintelligible, but the "good day" is an example of the insincere politeness
@SunosTheBard insincere politeness? Who is the one telling me I have "bad grammar" or "clean up your damn sentences" YOU. your the jerk for who knows how old you are but if your an adult then you are the most unmature adult I would ever know, making fun of people over grammar and swearing at ppl? there must be a loose bolt in your head. its not my fault you havent seen anything "live" either.So look whos talking
@gunspinner101 I, unlike you, am not using phrases and idioms out of context, or pretending to be more polite or cultured than I am. Your typing is legitimately poor to the point where it impedes conversation. I am not mocking you or making fun of you, I am pointing out the truth, because it is inhibiting our ability to communicate with each other.
Damn is a mild swear word at best, and justifiable given the confusion I was feeling. If it offended you that much, then I am sorry.
@SunosTheBard how the hell am I trying to be more polite or cultured? your damn trash mouth is legitimately poor along with your stupid word facts you keep looking up on the internet. Damn is not a mild swear word, it has been used for ages for strong defensive comback and strong language. NOW in modern day they have words with more meaning and even worse. But no swear word whatsover should be worse then another. They all have there limits.
@gunspinner101 Before, you were making an effort at civility. Now, you have clearly given up on that course of action and dived right into displays of agression. You've begun parroting things I say in an attempt to turn them around on me, but you clearly have little knowledge about their correct application. I havn't looked up a single one of my "stupid word facts", they are all just commonly known applications of the english language.
@SunosTheBard HA! you spelled Haven't havn't. You see how freakin annoying that is? That is how you have been writing to me the whole time. How can that not get someone mad?"Now, you have clearly given up on that course of action and dived right into displays of agression" Since when have you figured that out? I have had aggresion ever since you starded giving me your crap."stupid word facts" are something I can look up without you buging me about jerk. can you please shut the hell up and stop?
@gunspinner101 I always spell "havn't" that way. It's one personal preference amongst what is otherwise pretty decent english.
You, however, have a flood of misspellings, gramatical errors, and straight up nonsense in every one of your posts. There is a huge difference between my one slightly mistaken preference and your atrocious communication skills. You often spell one word two different ways in the same post. At least I'm consistent.
@gunspinner101 I don't know anyone who gets offended when they hear someone say damn anymore, it may have been strong once, but in nowadays it has definitely lost its potency.
No swear word is worse than another? Are you championing swear word equality now? They definitely do have different levels of obscenity. Try out ever swear word you can find, I guarantee some will get stronger reactions than others.
@SunosTheBard Im sure people have been offended when the say it TO them not when they just say it. (you see, I never said anything about saying it infront of people that clearly states you have nothing else to say). And yes it was strong once and to some people it is still strong so watch your mouth. I said it before, some swear words are worse then others So quit buging me about it. The question is are YOU championing swear word equality now? your the one saying you know everything about them.
@gunspinner101 First: my point was that some swear words are so bad that even hearing them directed at OTHER people is offensive to those just listening, while others aren't. That indicates that there are varying degrees of offensiveness, which you implied was untrue.
Second: yes it was strong a long time ago, but SEVRAL times you have accused me of being out-of-date/not modern, and damn carries little to no weight as a modern swearword. You should live by your own standards.
@gunspinner101 Third: I am not going to watch my mouth around you. You have already made several times as many insults as I have, and far more offensive ones as well. Watch your own mouth.
Fourth: You said the OPPOSITE of some swear words being worse than others. And I quote: "But no swear word whatsover should be worse then another."
Fifth: Being knowledgable in a subject is quite different from championing equality in said subject. I just happen to know more than you, that's all.
@gunspinner101 "Look who's talking" implies that I am doing the very thing I am criticizing you for. I have accused you of 3 things: poor sentence construction, out of place use of phrases, and mock propriety. Which one of these things do you feel I became a significant hypocrite on? Please quote the place where I did so.
@SunosTheBard will you cut out your stupid facts. It doesent make anything better. Your corrections have probably caused you to have a bad social life. I bet you cant even take a joke without your "corections"
@gunspinner101 I notice you didn't attempt to provide any actual answers to my question, but instead attempted to attack my character. That is a typical debate technique of those who know they are wrong, or at least know they are outmatched. It works in politics, but not here.
I will not abandon my facts just because you dislike them. That's not how facts work.
@SunosTheBard just because I dont attempt to provide and answer proves your right? The whole point of an argument for thousands of years Is to ATTACK and PROVE your right. This is not a typical debate team. people across the world, senators, presidents, lawyers, ppl, always use this type of technique. What ever helps them win what they are doing, plus just because you say a fact doesnt make you right and dont the hell you reply saying" I never said I was right". Your stupid facts makes you fail
@gunspinner101 Actually avoiding a question using agression is often a sign of guilt or shame about the question's subject.
You are half right, the point of an argument IS to discover who is correct. However character attacks are only one way to win out of many, and are often not related to the issue at hand. And you have offered no proof, only hateful remarks.
This is not even sort of a debate team, much less a typical one.
Many people doing something doesn't make it right. (to be continued)
@gunspinner101 (continued) many people kill, lie, cheat, steal, and use irrelevant smear campaigns to succeed, but that does not make any of those actions relevant or justified.
Actually, by definition, if I make a statement which is a fact, that statement is correct.
I am definitely right, no doubt about that. My "stupid facts" make me correct.
@SunosTheBard do me a favor and shut the FUCK up. I have better things to do then argue to faggots like you over the internet. Your stupid messages keep cloging up my email space. I can really care less about this arguement because really... I dont have a clue who your are, what you do, or anything and I wont know you in the future ethier. So just ...............stop. Ok, just stop. I swear if you send me queer messages with facts I will report you (I know how) and block u. Bye and good day
@gunspinner101 I will not be bullied into submission by your ineffective insults. If you have better things to do that you care more about, then go do them. Don't keep coming back here trying to get the last word.
Don't worry, you are in NO danger of receiving homosexual solicitations from me. I wouldn't date you to save my life. I'm glad you figured out the report system. So have I.
@gunspinner101 (continued) that I referred to earlier. Adding "Good day" to the end of a rant isn't polite, it's condescending. It's also the kind of dialog you see in movies about british noblemen, where they turn on their heels and walk away after spitting it out. I would dismiss it as a platitude, except your earlier use of "whatever helps you sleep at night" makes it clear you are trying to portray yourself in the moral high ground. This isn't a moral discussion, it's a factual one.
@SunosTheBard "clean up your damn sentences!" is a rude way saying that you dont know how to spell or right good in what ever language your speaking. It portrays to yourself that your are a rude brat who cannot respect other people. This isn't a moral discussion, it's a factual one. ps (its not my problem you starded this mess, you did, because you freaked out "whatever helps you sleep at night.) I have better things to do than to talk to ppl like you over the internet so good day.
@gunspinner101 You are correct, it is rude. My whole point is that you are being just as rude, but pretending that you are being polite. I am not making any attempts to mask of obfuscate my opinions about you and your information, and my one rude statement hardly equals your several veiled insults.
"This isn't a moral discussion, it's a factual one." You are just parroting me without tying it into your statements with any context or evidence.
@gunspinner101 And just for the record, because I want to make sure this sinks home so we can get back to cell phones, Verizon and AT&T's turf war has absolutely no effect on my sleep schedule. They could both be replaced overnight by two brand new companies, and I would neither lose sleep, nor bemoan the loss of either company. They are simply two competitors, one of which has larger coverage. My intrest in them and this discussion goes no farther than fact.
there was 4 states with NO covrage , i hope yall all no that theres no way that at&t covrage is like that , if so they wouldnt be in the top three phone service's.
This is ridiculous they are using the towers that they had 10 years ago the maps they had 10 years ago look it up verizon is just mad they can't support the iPhone or the increasingly big app store they have
@gunspinner101 First off I am an AT&T iPhone customer and not a fan boy. This ad at the time was completely true. They where CLEARLY referring to 3G coverage, not just Voice/2G coverage.
@Thatradomguy your funny i live in ohio and if you look at&t has a sliver of service in ohio so thats impossible considering ohio runs on verizon basically because if u look ohio on verizons map almost all of it is covered so your a fucking retard nuff said
personaly this comercial is a joke verizon is only doing this with this whol map thing cause they got notheing eles they are lame they are such a bad company i love AT&T Verizon lied to me and tryed to get so much money out of me if you want to know the whole story message me
All verizon did with the first commercial all Verizon did was make a simple point about having more 3g coverage. They never even said at&ts name just put it in a little text box.
AT&T decided to directly insult them and verizon shot back with full force. Now the droid is outselling the Iphone and they are putting out commecials that are clever and incredibly insulting.
They didnt start this but from the looks of things they for damn sure plan on finishing it.
@StaleMilk5 im not saying i like at&t. i live in canada i couldnt care less about these companies. im just sayin that at&t and verizon are acting like little children. dont u find that funny??
@StedySniper i dont think they needed to portray verizon customers that way. But that doesn't mean I favour verizon...or AT&T. look if i lived in the states i probably would be on AT&T for the whole phone thing. i personally love apple and there products. even though at&t has bad 3G coverage, appreciate the 2G coverage or just COVERAGE!!!!! in canada, Rogers (3G) companies coverage SUX and there regular coverage SUX just as much. TO BE CONTINUED
Ya i was just making sure that you werent one of these other guys who would go to the ends of the earth and deny all things that go against them just to proove something to themselves.
I favour verizon but thats because me and my family like to travel to more out of the way places sometimes and Im more likely to get coverage in those areas(for down time during the vacation only though) But this is just my opinion so...ya
@StedySniper PART 2 Thank god TELUS is switching to HSPA+ it'll be the widest 3G coverage in canada, now back to the whole AT&T issue. being me i probably cant afford the data plans or anything so 3G doesnt matter to me. so that basically it.
Foolish answer. AT&T will get over it in a very few years, I'd guess, spreading their 3G network more widely over the USA and then making them retreat back again using a fitting opposing commercial - again that's my general opinion.
everyone is wasting their time arguing about this shit!! no one can really say that they have better coverage because it all depends on where you live and where you use it! an example is that apparently some people say that they switched to att because the verizon coverage sucks WHERE THEY ARE, where i live you can never get any service with att. it all depends where you live so just stopp arguing about this bulllshit.
Verizon covers rurals better. AT&T covers urban areas better. So, if you live in the rurals, get VZW. If you live in a city, get AT&T. (If you have a smartphone, get AT&T.)
Half of the US may not have 3G GSM coverage, but all that does is make it behave like CDMA everywhere.
Wouldn't you prefer to be able to multitask in cities with populations over 500 and just have voice OR data in other places than sit in Dallas/Fort Worth and STILL not be able to do it?
I can do that on 2G, nobody can do that on AT&T's 3G here, and it is on maximum amount of bars. Verizon, Sprint, and T-Mobile also do multi-task anywhere! The only thing that makes AT&T say they are the only ones is that it is easy on iPhone to do that... My phone (Sprint) can still multi-task while all AT&T in my town "When is it going to load the page?" While they are talking... I can Talk and Web Search just takes some brains... AT&T has nothing on any other company!
There is no 2G protocol, GSM or otherwise, that can do voice and data at the same time, less you're connected to WiFi to supplement a cellular connection.
Don't even bring Sprint in the mix. At least, Verizon has a decent selection of phones. Ooh, a BB 8530? Too bad everyone else had the 85x0 series like a year ago. Does it even have WiFi?
Sprint has the Hero, Moment, Instinct(not best phone) and THE BEST coverage... Verizon has GOOD connection and BEST phones, AT&T has BAD connection and iPhone, what dumb person would switch just for the iPhone? AT&T constantly fails, WOW! I can take out a SIM card in AT&T, If I wanted to be able to do that I would switch to T-Mobile, you can at least make calls with them. With T-Mobile you also get the iPhone's present day successor Google's Nexus One!
I think it's cute how you think Sprint of all networks has the best coverage. That must be why they are #4 in the country. Verizon has great phones, sure. Prizewinners like the BlackBerry Storm 1 and the BlackBerry Tour. Oh, yeah. The Palm Pixi. You use the iPhone on AT&T because AT&T is the largest 3G GSM network in the United States. Period. The Nexus One is a fine phone, if you live on the West coast.
Sprint has THE best coverage, AT&T coverage(3G specifics) sucks!!! You can't deny that Sprint is #1 in coverage(U.S.) w/o lying your butt off. Also... Sprint isn't number four, it's number two(based on ACTUAL charts) You are trying to defend the worst network on a place where people are watching just to slam. You FAIL! This WILL be my LAST reply to the mentally numbed person! You will fail on your own without being proven wrong by ME but by others.
Sprint's 3G is as slow and ineffective as AT&T 2G, not even 2.5G. There's a reason they are hemorrhaging customers and money. If they had a future, they'd get good phones, for example. Manufacturers give networks who are selling phone and gaining customers exclusives. AT&T got the iPhone. AT&T got the BlackBerry Bold. Verizon got the Droid. Verizon got the BlackBerry Storm. Both of 'em. T-Mobile got the MyTouch. Not amazing, but I can see it. Sprint got... ... Oh, yeah. Nothing.
Because no manufacturer is stupid enough to lock a phone to a carrier who can't sell phones and keep customers. They couldn't even move Palms, so Palm took it from their hands and moved it to Verizon.
Sorry but my iPhone 4S on AT&T have HSPA+ not like the Verizon iphone fuck Verizon over prices company
Imappleboy 1 month ago
@Imappleboy um, you do realize that AT&T and Verizon's pricing is almost, exactly, the same?
mattssnet 1 month ago
@Imappleboy Verizon and AT&T both cost the same. By the way, how are your dropped calls and throttled 3G speeds? I'll be enjoying by 20-40mbps HTC Rezound 4G LTE phone which is faster than fauxG HSPA+ on AT&T.
coffeeandsugar20 1 month ago
Funny a smartphone is on the island of misfit TOYS...i mean the little kid must be spoiled as heck if he/she gets some sort of smart phone despite the coverage....lol and while all the other toys are like toys from the 40s or 50s...lol.
girlstorm09 1 month ago
LOL the laughter of the airplane really rubbed it in
supersentiger 2 months ago
lololololol
abbaroc 3 months ago
@ninjanachos2 no such shit as 5g and im fine with AT&T with my 3g 4th gen iphone : D
iseeu1001 3 months ago
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coffeeandsugar20 5 months ago
that is the gayest commercial i ever saw even gayer then dora explora!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
airsoft8711 6 months ago
@ninjanachos there is no 5g
AyeeJustin14 8 months ago
Good. You can stay there and freeze to death until your circuits die off.
KingCommando32 9 months ago
@VIIXXVIIMMX Stay the fuck away ROFL
ukmob4life 9 months ago
Dry
ukmob4life 9 months ago
fuk att - tried to bill me $1800 believe it or not-- all because of att dumbass phone which doesn't work well was malfunctioned- insomnia data used itself- charged 50 cent per kb reached 16gb
norbu1987 10 months ago
check out at&t's 4G!
eivenezens666 11 months ago
why is Verizon stabing themselves with an iPhone?? are they dumb or what? and.... they are so slow lol
kogepansanx 11 months ago
dislike verizon if its sucks
MrGotenks107 11 months ago
Not anymore u can get a iPhone with verizon now or unlock it X)
Madman66521 11 months ago
I'm in san Diego at&t speeds are faster than any carrier download speed average 2.5mbps dowloads average never go below 1.0mbps verizon download less than 1.0 Mbps on both download & up loads besides att use gsm 80% of the world use that CDMA slow as fuck that why verizon sucks hasp+ is nation wide 4g speed on att
leom760442 11 months ago
@leom760442 There we go!!! someone knows Verizon is lying with its own statistic world... iPhone4 on AT&T is constantly beating Verizon's iPhone by at least 30% and up to 2000%!
kogepansanx 11 months ago
@kogepansanx possibly because it literally just came out?????? relax its ok we know at&t sucks!!!!!!!! get used to it
calamityedgar420 11 months ago
@calamityedgar420 it must be a miracle to see a SUCK company like AT&T to be #1 in wireless industry. They caught up from being 20+ million behind the Verizon(the so called being the best network proclaimed by both users and themselves) in 2007. Verizon had 86 million subscribers in 2007 and how the hell did AT&T surpass them with 96 million in less than 3 years?? Verizon needs to think about their problem... if they are really the most reliable network....
kogepansanx 11 months ago
@kogepansanx So subscriber count means the network must be better? Wow you couldn't be any more wrong. Enjoy your shit AT&T.
coffeeandsugar20 5 months ago
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@coffeeandsugar20 just because you are with Verizon, you think you are NOT AT&T?? Do your study about how Verizon was formed LOL ..... SHIT....
AT&T is everywhere...
kogepansanx 4 months ago
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kogepansanx 4 months ago
@leom760442 your talking where you live except for the fact that look at the map and where theyre coverage is your in a good zone so duh stfu
calamityedgar420 11 months ago
@leom760442 Sprint gets 7-8 Mbps down and 1-2 Mbps up. Hell, even T-Mobile gets 3-5 Mbps up and 1-3 Mbps up. Verizon has LTE when the Thunderbolt comes out thats 5-12 Mbps down and 2-4 Mbps up.
freakylocz14 11 months ago
Lol goldenfury hahahha...but seriously verizon blows
ashton2gangsta 11 months ago
@ashton2gangsta i know it does :)
Goldenfury12 11 months ago
3G sucks dick on both companies any way
Goldenfury12 11 months ago
the irony of this commercial xD
wiirulezz 1 year ago
Haha oh man that was f*cken hilarious. Seriously tho att suuuccks
stockstew1 1 year ago 6
Forget ATT AND Verizon, I switched to NET10's unlimited plan for only 50 bucks a month and I'm never going back to a contract with Verizon again. Net10's network runs on BOTH Verizon AND ATT towers so I get the best of both worlds (GSM and CDMA). Not one of my calls have ever dropped and my LG900G smartphone is so much easier and simpler to use than the iphone (I can't stand the touch typing.. I need a physical keyboard). NET10 For the win!
proudpapa76 1 year ago
Actually, AT&T isn't 10x faster than verizon. I have the iPhone 4 on AT&T and, with both phones in full service, it barely beats my father's droid x on verizon during speed tests and video downloads. I'm talking like a few seconds. Considering that my coverage sucks with AT&T, and I almost never lost signal with verizon, I'll be ready to swap come next month
TheXGiles 1 year ago
I live in Albuquerque, NM. I switched from Verizon a few months ago to get the iPhone4. I love my iPhone4 due to all the useful applications available for it, the simple use, quality construction and always fast processor speeds. The coverage in Abq is good but outside city limits it's okay. Verizon used to provide me good service just about everywhere. I won't switch back to Verizon until they get the iPhone operating on 4G with facetime anywhere and unlimited data plan.
rbolo29 1 year ago
They forget to mention that AT&T's 3G coverage is about 10x faster then Verizon's and that Verizon's 3G coverage is only slightly faster then AT&T's EDGE connection, which is available in more locations then Verizon's 3G or even 2G. And no, I'm not an AT&T fanboy, I have a hacked iPhone 3GS on T-Mobile, just stating the facts.
iBoy2G 1 year ago
Simultaneous talk and data taken away...
cheerallyear 1 year ago
Well I have AT&T and have had it for 4 years now, the last dropped call I got was when I was on Verizon. And whenever I went inside a building, my signal went blank while my AT&T and Cingular friends had coverage. (I live in Atlanta, not the middle of nowhere) So I decided to switch to Cingular, which became AT&T and I haven't had a problem since. And my iPhone 4 Internet is not slow at all! I am not switching back to Verizon for the iPhone just to have features like simultaneous talk and data
cheerallyear 1 year ago
This is the most dickhead commercial of all time lol.
markmoore910 1 year ago
lol nice one verizon!!! i have to agree with this commercial, but thats just my personal experience from where i live. i cant wait for the verizon iphone!!!!
Cubanoflame87 1 year ago
fuckin right
iBlaum 1 year ago
AT&T have same coverage as verizon verizon 93.2 total Custumer AT&T 92.8 verizon only ahead by 400 thousand customers they are going to take #1 again this january 2011 when they report quater ernings if att is the bad why do you stupid att haters think they have all those customers for bad services fk u all
leom760442 1 year ago
For all the people saying Verizon wireless is expensive my last bill was $40 with unlimited texts and I went a bit over my minutes and besides I'd rather pay more for good coverage than less for crappy coverage.
yeahthatguy21 1 year ago
hahaha
mihow23 1 year ago
pues yo la verdad no puedo irme a otra compania q no sea de verizon por q es la unica que agarra senal en donde trabajo
latin19chulo 1 year ago
Did you notice that the background looks like the background of Toodee Land in Yo Gabba Gabba?
iDuckFilms 1 year ago
People hate too much on At&T, i dont have any problems, perfect signal 24/7 & i have the iPhone 4.. Verizon on the other hand is expensive!
sparkeycampos 1 year ago
@sparkeycampos if you have an iphone 4, at7t is more expensive than verizon.
Cruisexpert96 1 year ago
iphones belong with the misfit toy so do there owners. At&t sucks donkey dick!!!
Dread1701 1 year ago
@Gayboy130 ikr they over charge alot the last time we been charged 800 dollars
waelib1 1 year ago
11 people have at&t
neonxxcottonxxcandy 1 year ago
@gunspinner + @Sunosthebard Both of you are incompetint fools who try to act grown and civilized on youtube but really have no lives. good day sir!
The21ringleader 1 year ago
at&t has no coverage at all i have friends who got the new iphone thinking that they would get better coverage but it didn't improve a bit. with verizon i get service almost everywhere while my friends have no service at all.
DemonikSpirit 1 year ago
WOW this is so wrong. At&t sued verizon for this, the real at&t map has more coverage then verizon.
gunspinner101 1 year ago
@gunspinner101 but at&t lost because it turns out verizon's maps are correct
NYYROCK 1 year ago
@NYYROCK yah THERE maps, not AT&T. If you go to the AT&T store they have more coverage then verizon.
gunspinner101 1 year ago
@gunspinner101 no they have more basic coverage and they even count barely enough service to keep a call for a minute. These maps are for 3G coverage meaning quality service something at&t doesnt know about
NYYROCK 1 year ago
@gunspinner101 The court ruled against AT&T, saying that both of Verizon's maps were factually accurate enough to stand. The maps shown are for 3G coverage. If you look at the 3G part of the map on AT&T's own website, it matches the map they show here. A large part of the non-3G coverage on AT&T's map is actually borrowed coverage from other carriers, and AT&T will actual cancel your coverage if you use it too often, which means if you live there, you effectively can't use AT&T.
SunosTheBard 1 year ago
@SunosTheBard the map that doesnt have 3g coverge has more then verizon, if you notice, verizon is making at&t look like that ALL coverage is like that when its not. And also you said if you use the 3g coverage too often they will cancel it is not correct. You can use it all you want. I have the iphone 3G and I use it like 24 7. The map of coveridge is correct is infact true. But You can tell that they are trying to say make you think that it is all AT&T. but they got in some hot water anyway.
gunspinner101 1 year ago
@gunspinner101 Both maps used in the Verizon commercial are only 3G coverage, because Verizon is trying to point out that to do anything more than call or text, you want 3G, and AT&T's 3G coverage is pathetically small. They never say that the map represents ALL coverage, just 3G, which is arguably the important one.
I did not say they will cancel 3G use. I said if you use any service in the areas of the map that are striped, they will cancel, which is stated on AT&T's site, in fine print
SunosTheBard 1 year ago
@gunspinner101 ALSO, even with all coverage included Verizon still covers a large amount more than AT&T, which can be clearly seen by comparing their maps.
Both maps in the Verizon commercial are entirely true, and compare the same level of service, so are also fair game for comparison.
They got in no hot water, AT&T's comeback commercials are largely derided for dodging the issue, and the court ruled in favor of Verizon. They are clearly in the right on this issue.
SunosTheBard 1 year ago
@SunosTheBard some info that you said is true but agian wrong. I did my resarch. But OK Whatever.Say what you want. What ever helps you sleep at night.
gunspinner101 1 year ago
@gunspinner101 Which info was wrong? My "research" came straight from the companies own websites.
Don't need your permission to say whatever I want, much less to simply say the truth.
Whatever helps me sleep at night? A tad overdramatic phrase to use in a discussion about a simple accuracy dispute among cell phone carriers, don't you think?
SunosTheBard 1 year ago
@SunosTheBard you keep saying that at&t's coveridge is always among 3g when it's not. Verizon is saying that at&t's all coveridge is the map they keep showing in the commercial. Thats why they got in a big fight. Thats why they got this in court. Thats why you dont see these commercial's anymore. Right now more people are going to at&t since the U.S is in some bad aconomy beacuse verizon is just too expensive.I have to admit, verizon has some nice phones but its alot of $. At&t is just as good
gunspinner101 1 year ago
@gunspinner101 No, I never said that AT&T ONLY offers 3G coverage, and NIETHER IS VERIZON. They are saying that AT&T's 3G coverage is pathetically small, and since using most of the cool stuff on a smart phone (like iPhone) needs 3G to run at a decent speed, it's a valid criticism.
I DO still see these commercials, because Verizon WON the lawsuit.
Verizon didn't CAUSE the bad economy like you imply, and their prices are equitable to AT&T's
SunosTheBard 1 year ago
@SunosTheBard I never said that verizon caused bad economy. I said that there phones are too expenive ( God, I HATE it when people say you said something when they didnt, But ok, whatever helps you sleep at night (agian). My uncle works for tehcinician in both company's so he can tell me whats really going on instead of the publics opinnions and facts. I do agree but not 100%, good day.
gunspinner101 1 year ago
@gunspinner101 The way this sentence is written: "Right now more people are going to at&t since the U.S is in some bad aconomy beacuse verizon is just too expensive" states that the U.S.A is in a bad economic situation BECAUSE of verizon's prices. It was copied and pasted from your post. I did not put words in your mouth. YOU have been putting words in my mouth, and that of verizon, since the beginning.
Also, your faux dramatics and propriety are insincere, rude, and irrelevant.
SunosTheBard 1 year ago
@SunosTheBard good for you buddy. Think what YOU what to think. I dont hate verizon. My family has verizon and I did too. I switch to at&t because it is cheaper. Same with alot of friends and people. What I am saying isint rude or dramatic or insincere. do you know what "what ever helps you sleep at night" means? So you know it means think what YOU want to think and what ever makes you happy. Go ahead say what ever makes you happy if it is true or not you can say whay you want. Is that rude?
gunspinner101 1 year ago
@gunspinner101 Actually, "whatever helps you sleep at night" is a phrase implying that the person you are talking to is using moral and situational justifications to help them deal with guilt of the knowledge that whatever they are really doing is incredibly morally evil or wrong. Even were I to be wrong here (which I'm not) a disagreement over cell phone carriers hardly justifies that level of moral rhetoric. Also, your poor spelling and punctuation make it hard to tell what you mean.
SunosTheBard 1 year ago
@SunosTheBard wow. Considuring that fact that you care about my grammar and spelling is just rediculous. whoever told you the fact that it is "evil and wrong" to say that phrase " what ever helps you sleep at night" has something wrong with them. I fact I bet you copied and pasted that off the internet. nothings "rude" to the phrase, teachers at my school even said it. including people at my church. We you consider a holy person saying your evil? I wouldent think so.
gunspinner101 1 year ago
@gunspinner101 normally I don;t correct people on minor spelling or grammar mistakes, as most of the time it's just mildly annoying. I only pointed it out here because I am actually having trouble reading and understanding some of the things you are saying. That is bad for both of us.
I never said it was evil and wrong to USE the phrase "whatever helps you sleep at night". You missed the point entirely, please re-read my post.
People at your church arn't holy. They just go to church.
SunosTheBard 1 year ago
@SunosTheBard yes you did say it was evil and wrong to say the phrase, dont be a retard. I didint even miss the point, I know exactly what your saying.
gunspinner101 1 year ago
@gunspinner101 I honestly did not say the phrase was evil, and you really did miss the point. Please get someone whose intellect you respect to read what I said and explain it to you, if you feel unable to trust me.
I said that the phrase implies that you think the person you are talking to is engaged in evil acts. Not that the phrase itself is evil.
SunosTheBard 1 year ago
@SunosTheBard countuning my last comment. You say that at&t's 3g coveridge is pathiticaly small right? well thats is a bust and incorrect. You said that there 3g coveridge was right on that map in the commerical right? incorect agian! to my coculations, public, and the internet, in the map it shows that at&t's coveridge barley covers 4 states! that is a BIG lie. the area that it shows were I live has no coveridge whatsover and I have the most powerful at&t coveridge with tons of at&t stores!
gunspinner101 1 year ago
@gunspinner101 Assuming you meant "calculations", of which I doubt you did any, you are wrong again, in several ways. FIrst being the size of states varies wildly, so they are a poor system of measurement. The area depicted could cover up to 12 smaller states or 2 huge ones. Second is that the area they indicate is lifted straight form AT&T's map. Third is that I do not believe you have used diagnostic equipment to justify the statement that you receive the most powerful coverage.
SunosTheBard 1 year ago
@SunosTheBard once agian still over my spelling errors? The only reason why I spell wrong is because I type 75 mpm, so stop freaking out over that. 1 the size of state does NOT vary acording to size. Verizon happened to hear rumors of the actual map size so they went with the flow and put it in. If you dont belive me (which I highly belive) go to yahoo answers home page and look it up. 2 it is not from at&t's map, stores dont give competitors information. 3 its not my problem you dont belive me
gunspinner101 1 year ago
@gunspinner101 It's much better to type intelligibly at 50 wpm than unintelligibly at 75 wpm. My statements hardly qualify as freaking out.
I don't understand how you can disagree that not all states are the same size. Look at a map and compare Rhode Island to California.
Verizon and AT&T both have their maps up on the internet, for everyone to see. Verizon took their information from those maps. I don't know what you think I meant.
If you really cared so little, then we wouldn't be talking.
SunosTheBard 1 year ago
@SunosTheBard you can think that all info on the computer can be correct right? wrong! both companies have been giving false info to the people buying and were caught throuhout year 2009-2010, how would you know they are telling the truth? On each other?
gunspinner101 1 year ago
@gunspinner101 "you can think that all info on the computer can be correct right?" I never said that I believe anything on a computer, though you seem to think I do.
I expect both companies to exaggerate their coverage and lie a little, that's what big corporations do. However, unless you know of an independent coverage analysis company we can rely on, all we have to go on are the companies own claims. Even taking exaggeration into account, Verizon's coverage is bigger than AT&Ts.
SunosTheBard 1 year ago
@gunspinner101 I'm unsure what you are trying to say here:
"Verizon happened to hear rumors of the actual map size so they went with the flow and put it in. If you dont belive me (which I highly belive) go to yahoo answers home page and look it up."
Please clarify. Carefully, if possible. Just pretend I'm stupid and you need to type very slowly and clearly for me to understand.
SunosTheBard 1 year ago
@SunosTheBard wow your are the biggest jerk I have ever talk to in my life. Shut the hell up man! "act like im stupid to talk to me?" god your such a douchbag. Verizon heard acts and rumors from other Co. so thats what they put on at&t's maps. wow your retarded for not knowing what go with the flow means, if not you dont know mordern english launguage, your just going to send me some stupid fact info about what slow /w the flow means, your probably a vergin living in yours mothers house at 30
gunspinner101 1 year ago
@gunspinner101 If I'm the biggest jerk you've ever met, then either you have lived a very sheltered life, you live with saints, or the people around you treat you specially to avoid causing you to overreact like this.
Verizon most likely didn't have to rely on rumor to look up AT&T's coverage, as it's available to the public on AT&T's website. Even if they did, how would you find evidence that Verizon relied solely on rumor? The court that tried the case ruled in Verizon's favor.
SunosTheBard 1 year ago
@SunosTheBard still over your stupid facts? Cant you take some exaggeration? I didnt think so because you have nothing better to say. I would know because I have said before that my uncle is a technician there and can tell me what is going on there and at at&t.
gunspinner101 1 year ago
@gunspinner101 Sorry, but a comparison of our respective personalities does not intrest me, only the facts related to this issue and even discussing those is growing tedious.
Having an AT&T technician as an uncle does not qualify you as an expert on this subject. For that to approach validity you would need family members working in both companies at many levels, and you would need to spend a significant amount of time consulting them.
SunosTheBard 1 year ago
@gunspinner101 For someone who JUST got angry with me for using one swearword out of exasperation, you have really flown off the handle. There is a phrase for this situation and since you seem to enjoy them I'll try it out: "You're a pot calling the kettle black." There's some modern english for you.
I know what go with the flow means, I just think your usage of it is poor.
30? Just a while ago you said you didn't believe I was an adult, which would mean I would have to be 17 or younger.
SunosTheBard 1 year ago
@SunosTheBard I didint get ANGRY over a swear word. I just though it was very queer of you to say that I was being rude when you were the one saying the rude things. You just said that I got Angry over a word when you got all worked up over "what ever helps you sleep at night" "You're a pot calling the kettle black." is not a mordern year thing in 2010 what are you a poligamist thinking back then? Is the age of 30 not an adult? I said if you Were an adult your immature. Get your facts right.
gunspinner101 1 year ago
@gunspinner101 You definitely became angry. After the post in which I used "damn" you began using a flood of curses and personal insults. it isn;t odd for me to point out the truth. I was saying that you were being rude and trying to hide it. I openly admitted that I dislike your typing style. No hiding there.
I did not become angry about "what helps you sleep at night", if anything it made me laugh. You were still using it excessively, which is all that I was trying to point out.
SunosTheBard 1 year ago
@gunspinner101 I hear people use the pot/kettle phrase all the time, and your polygamy comment is just bizarre.
The age of 30 is most certainly above the age of adulthood, which is why I pointed it out. Shortly before saying I was 30 you implied that you would find it very hard to believe that I was an adult at all. Not that big of a deal, because you havn't come close to my actual age on either attempt. I was just pointing to a specific example of how contradictory some of your statements are.
SunosTheBard 1 year ago
@SunosTheBard countinuing agian. The 3g coveridge in verizons say it cover's 92% of the US including some parts in mexico, and canada on there home page. and At&t barely covers 30% LIE!. Go to the at&t store and see the REAL map and its just the same amount on verizon (the map is 3g by the way)You keep saying that verizon never said it was all coveridge in the commecials right WRONG! acording to the t.v. and internet, when the motorola driod came out verizon put a 3g commerical falsing at&t...
gunspinner101 1 year ago
@gunspinner101 AT&T's map does NOT depict an area of the SAME size as Verizon's. I have brought up both maps side by side every time before posting just to make sure I am not incorrect. The map of AT&T's coverage on their website is fleshed out with the borrowed coverage, which they state in the info box of their own map costs extra and can void your contract. The map of AT&T on Apple's site is even smaller. As far as area covered, Verizon's percentages are correct, give or take 1-3%.
SunosTheBard 1 year ago
@SunosTheBard 1-3%? you really belive 1-3%? if so something is worng with you. I went to the web site and it was only all coveridge not 3g. So dont depend on that being your right answer. for the billion time freakin look at there OWN map at there store! Apple is its own company (besides working on the iphone) so dont there cuculations to be right ethier. Internet is not always right my friend. if this really concerns you cha cha it on your phone to see what % 3g coveridge at&t has.
gunspinner101 1 year ago
@gunspinner101 Go to Google and type in the words: "at&t coverage map" and click on the first link. Zoom in one unit and check the box that says show mobile broadband. The dark blue area that appears is their 3G coverage. Only the dark blue is 3G. Compare it to the Verizon commercials and the map on Apple. They are very similar.
Telling me that I cannot trust the internet and then instructing me to use an unregulated internet answer site to prove your point, is contradictory and a little silly.
SunosTheBard 1 year ago
@SunosTheBard there is no link to at&t coveridge map. How is not trusting the internet "silly" half of things on the internet are not true, things on google, wikipedia, answers, etc... are not true. Theres nothing "silly" about that
gunspinner101 1 year ago
@gunspinner101 I just double checked my instructions, and had several friends follow them, and they all found the link. It is the one name AT&T Coverage Viewer.
I didn't say that not trusting the internet was silly, I said that you telling me not to trust the internet, and then telling me to trust the internet in the very next sentence, is silly.
SunosTheBard 1 year ago
@SunosTheBard I cant find the link to the at&t map. I must not have it. I never instructed you to use the internet. I SAID TO CHA CHA IT ON YOUR PHONE! Cha Cha is NOT a internet sight retard. Its a place were you text and they look it up and give info to the question you asked GET IT now? You probably DONT have I life. like I said someone who doesnt know what cha cha is, is not in modern day.
gunspinner101 1 year ago
@gunspinner101 Try copy pasting "AT&T Coverage Viewer" into google. I'd link it, but youtube won't let me.
They do have a website. Type in chacha.com.
I am aware of how the chacha service works. They hire people with general knowledge to look up the answers to the questions you sned them. They use the internet to find these answers. Want to know how I learned this about them? It's on that website of theirs.
As to wether I am modern day: I make video games, how archaic can I be?
SunosTheBard 1 year ago
@SunosTheBard ok agian.. motorola driod featured a commerical saying. " faster 3g coveridge than there at&t. That includes all coveridge. Get the new motorola driod starting at only 199.99 blah blah blah blah hear That?"includes ALL coveridge". You told me that they never acused when they did right live on the internet and t.v. (the commercial was when the first driod came out over at&t's iphone 2g or 3g) You see you have giving fase info this whole time some are correct others arent good day
gunspinner101 1 year ago
@gunspinner101 Link this video where they claim that AT&T's 3g coverage is their total coverage. I can't find it. Also, clean up your damn sentences, I feel like a codebreaker trying to understand you. They did accuse AT&T of having poor coverage, which is true. What accusation are you referring to? They did what live? I havn't seen a Verizon commercial broadcast LIVE before. Your last sentence is nearly unintelligible, but the "good day" is an example of the insincere politeness
SunosTheBard 1 year ago
@SunosTheBard insincere politeness? Who is the one telling me I have "bad grammar" or "clean up your damn sentences" YOU. your the jerk for who knows how old you are but if your an adult then you are the most unmature adult I would ever know, making fun of people over grammar and swearing at ppl? there must be a loose bolt in your head. its not my fault you havent seen anything "live" either.So look whos talking
gunspinner101 1 year ago
@gunspinner101 I, unlike you, am not using phrases and idioms out of context, or pretending to be more polite or cultured than I am. Your typing is legitimately poor to the point where it impedes conversation. I am not mocking you or making fun of you, I am pointing out the truth, because it is inhibiting our ability to communicate with each other.
Damn is a mild swear word at best, and justifiable given the confusion I was feeling. If it offended you that much, then I am sorry.
SunosTheBard 1 year ago
@SunosTheBard how the hell am I trying to be more polite or cultured? your damn trash mouth is legitimately poor along with your stupid word facts you keep looking up on the internet. Damn is not a mild swear word, it has been used for ages for strong defensive comback and strong language. NOW in modern day they have words with more meaning and even worse. But no swear word whatsover should be worse then another. They all have there limits.
gunspinner101 1 year ago
@gunspinner101 Before, you were making an effort at civility. Now, you have clearly given up on that course of action and dived right into displays of agression. You've begun parroting things I say in an attempt to turn them around on me, but you clearly have little knowledge about their correct application. I havn't looked up a single one of my "stupid word facts", they are all just commonly known applications of the english language.
SunosTheBard 1 year ago
@SunosTheBard HA! you spelled Haven't havn't. You see how freakin annoying that is? That is how you have been writing to me the whole time. How can that not get someone mad?"Now, you have clearly given up on that course of action and dived right into displays of agression" Since when have you figured that out? I have had aggresion ever since you starded giving me your crap."stupid word facts" are something I can look up without you buging me about jerk. can you please shut the hell up and stop?
gunspinner101 1 year ago
@gunspinner101 I always spell "havn't" that way. It's one personal preference amongst what is otherwise pretty decent english.
You, however, have a flood of misspellings, gramatical errors, and straight up nonsense in every one of your posts. There is a huge difference between my one slightly mistaken preference and your atrocious communication skills. You often spell one word two different ways in the same post. At least I'm consistent.
If you don't like it, educate yourself.
SunosTheBard 1 year ago
@gunspinner101 I don't know anyone who gets offended when they hear someone say damn anymore, it may have been strong once, but in nowadays it has definitely lost its potency.
No swear word is worse than another? Are you championing swear word equality now? They definitely do have different levels of obscenity. Try out ever swear word you can find, I guarantee some will get stronger reactions than others.
SunosTheBard 1 year ago
@SunosTheBard Im sure people have been offended when the say it TO them not when they just say it. (you see, I never said anything about saying it infront of people that clearly states you have nothing else to say). And yes it was strong once and to some people it is still strong so watch your mouth. I said it before, some swear words are worse then others So quit buging me about it. The question is are YOU championing swear word equality now? your the one saying you know everything about them.
gunspinner101 1 year ago
@gunspinner101 First: my point was that some swear words are so bad that even hearing them directed at OTHER people is offensive to those just listening, while others aren't. That indicates that there are varying degrees of offensiveness, which you implied was untrue.
Second: yes it was strong a long time ago, but SEVRAL times you have accused me of being out-of-date/not modern, and damn carries little to no weight as a modern swearword. You should live by your own standards.
SunosTheBard 1 year ago
@gunspinner101 Third: I am not going to watch my mouth around you. You have already made several times as many insults as I have, and far more offensive ones as well. Watch your own mouth.
Fourth: You said the OPPOSITE of some swear words being worse than others. And I quote: "But no swear word whatsover should be worse then another."
Fifth: Being knowledgable in a subject is quite different from championing equality in said subject. I just happen to know more than you, that's all.
SunosTheBard 1 year ago
@gunspinner101 "Look who's talking" implies that I am doing the very thing I am criticizing you for. I have accused you of 3 things: poor sentence construction, out of place use of phrases, and mock propriety. Which one of these things do you feel I became a significant hypocrite on? Please quote the place where I did so.
SunosTheBard 1 year ago
@SunosTheBard will you cut out your stupid facts. It doesent make anything better. Your corrections have probably caused you to have a bad social life. I bet you cant even take a joke without your "corections"
gunspinner101 1 year ago
@gunspinner101 I notice you didn't attempt to provide any actual answers to my question, but instead attempted to attack my character. That is a typical debate technique of those who know they are wrong, or at least know they are outmatched. It works in politics, but not here.
I will not abandon my facts just because you dislike them. That's not how facts work.
SunosTheBard 1 year ago
@SunosTheBard just because I dont attempt to provide and answer proves your right? The whole point of an argument for thousands of years Is to ATTACK and PROVE your right. This is not a typical debate team. people across the world, senators, presidents, lawyers, ppl, always use this type of technique. What ever helps them win what they are doing, plus just because you say a fact doesnt make you right and dont the hell you reply saying" I never said I was right". Your stupid facts makes you fail
gunspinner101 1 year ago
@gunspinner101 Actually avoiding a question using agression is often a sign of guilt or shame about the question's subject.
You are half right, the point of an argument IS to discover who is correct. However character attacks are only one way to win out of many, and are often not related to the issue at hand. And you have offered no proof, only hateful remarks.
This is not even sort of a debate team, much less a typical one.
Many people doing something doesn't make it right. (to be continued)
SunosTheBard 1 year ago
@gunspinner101 (continued) many people kill, lie, cheat, steal, and use irrelevant smear campaigns to succeed, but that does not make any of those actions relevant or justified.
Actually, by definition, if I make a statement which is a fact, that statement is correct.
I am definitely right, no doubt about that. My "stupid facts" make me correct.
SunosTheBard 1 year ago
@SunosTheBard do me a favor and shut the FUCK up. I have better things to do then argue to faggots like you over the internet. Your stupid messages keep cloging up my email space. I can really care less about this arguement because really... I dont have a clue who your are, what you do, or anything and I wont know you in the future ethier. So just ...............stop. Ok, just stop. I swear if you send me queer messages with facts I will report you (I know how) and block u. Bye and good day
gunspinner101 1 year ago
@gunspinner101 I will not be bullied into submission by your ineffective insults. If you have better things to do that you care more about, then go do them. Don't keep coming back here trying to get the last word.
Don't worry, you are in NO danger of receiving homosexual solicitations from me. I wouldn't date you to save my life. I'm glad you figured out the report system. So have I.
Enjoy being banned for abuse.
SunosTheBard 1 year ago
@gunspinner101 (continued) that I referred to earlier. Adding "Good day" to the end of a rant isn't polite, it's condescending. It's also the kind of dialog you see in movies about british noblemen, where they turn on their heels and walk away after spitting it out. I would dismiss it as a platitude, except your earlier use of "whatever helps you sleep at night" makes it clear you are trying to portray yourself in the moral high ground. This isn't a moral discussion, it's a factual one.
SunosTheBard 1 year ago
@SunosTheBard "clean up your damn sentences!" is a rude way saying that you dont know how to spell or right good in what ever language your speaking. It portrays to yourself that your are a rude brat who cannot respect other people. This isn't a moral discussion, it's a factual one. ps (its not my problem you starded this mess, you did, because you freaked out "whatever helps you sleep at night.) I have better things to do than to talk to ppl like you over the internet so good day.
gunspinner101 1 year ago
@gunspinner101 You are correct, it is rude. My whole point is that you are being just as rude, but pretending that you are being polite. I am not making any attempts to mask of obfuscate my opinions about you and your information, and my one rude statement hardly equals your several veiled insults.
"This isn't a moral discussion, it's a factual one." You are just parroting me without tying it into your statements with any context or evidence.
You clearly don't have better things to do.
SunosTheBard 1 year ago
@gunspinner101 And just for the record, because I want to make sure this sinks home so we can get back to cell phones, Verizon and AT&T's turf war has absolutely no effect on my sleep schedule. They could both be replaced overnight by two brand new companies, and I would neither lose sleep, nor bemoan the loss of either company. They are simply two competitors, one of which has larger coverage. My intrest in them and this discussion goes no farther than fact.
SunosTheBard 1 year ago
there was 4 states with NO covrage , i hope yall all no that theres no way that at&t covrage is like that , if so they wouldnt be in the top three phone service's.
zwinkypimpen09 1 year ago
This is ridiculous they are using the towers that they had 10 years ago the maps they had 10 years ago look it up verizon is just mad they can't support the iPhone or the increasingly big app store they have
XxUNIQUEKILLAxX 1 year ago
THis is such a big fat lie! If you acually go to the att&t store you will see the REAL map coveridge and it has just as much as verizon
gunspinner101 1 year ago 3
@gunspinner101 well as you have seen verizon has kept doing this and got sued for it by at&t , you cant tell a diffrance on the real one .
zwinkypimpen09 1 year ago
@zwinkypimpen09 really? when did they sue verizon??? I never new that.
gunspinner101 1 year ago
@gunspinner101 for incorect maps , yes . on the one were there walking with maps above there heads .
zwinkypimpen09 1 year ago
@zwinkypimpen09 Ok, but is virizon or at&t aloud to even mention them to each other??
gunspinner101 1 year ago
@gunspinner101 yes as long as they give correct imformation . unlike that maps ^^
zwinkypimpen09 1 year ago
@gunspinner101 First off I am an AT&T iPhone customer and not a fan boy. This ad at the time was completely true. They where CLEARLY referring to 3G coverage, not just Voice/2G coverage.
277luke 1 year ago
hahahahahaha ya verizon! i fuckin hate at&t!
Gwissle125 1 year ago
I love watching ad's like these in theatres!
alvarenga2007 1 year ago
Verizion is funny the blue area is where u can't get service and the red spot is where verizion can't get service nuff said
Thatradomguy 1 year ago 8
@Thatradomguy your funny i live in ohio and if you look at&t has a sliver of service in ohio so thats impossible considering ohio runs on verizon basically because if u look ohio on verizons map almost all of it is covered so your a fucking retard nuff said
FragBashers 1 year ago
personaly this comercial is a joke verizon is only doing this with this whol map thing cause they got notheing eles they are lame they are such a bad company i love AT&T Verizon lied to me and tryed to get so much money out of me if you want to know the whole story message me
raeraebug94 1 year ago
Look at all those missing spots !
PPPuuuDDDing 1 year ago
To be fair.
All verizon did with the first commercial all Verizon did was make a simple point about having more 3g coverage. They never even said at&ts name just put it in a little text box.
AT&T decided to directly insult them and verizon shot back with full force. Now the droid is outselling the Iphone and they are putting out commecials that are clever and incredibly insulting.
They didnt start this but from the looks of things they for damn sure plan on finishing it.
StedySniper 1 year ago
Lmfao! That is clever. Childish but clever.
mumbles005 1 year ago
overly stupid and my friend who lives in California gets full bars and 3G and no problems and it says at&t suck. ha
Mtech112 1 year ago
i luv this verizon commercial =O
emilyrichgal2 1 year ago
is it just me or, are 2 year olds more mature than verizon wireless?
BlackKittenLover 1 year ago
@BlackKittenLover
Verizon has every right to brag, AT&T has no chance
StaleMilk5 1 year ago 13
@StaleMilk5 im not saying i like at&t. i live in canada i couldnt care less about these companies. im just sayin that at&t and verizon are acting like little children. dont u find that funny??
BlackKittenLover 1 year ago
@BlackKittenLover
So did you complain when AT&T portrays all verizon customers as fumbling, mumbling idiots who cant do anything right?
If not then you should probably consider this.
StedySniper 1 year ago
@StedySniper i dont think they needed to portray verizon customers that way. But that doesn't mean I favour verizon...or AT&T. look if i lived in the states i probably would be on AT&T for the whole phone thing. i personally love apple and there products. even though at&t has bad 3G coverage, appreciate the 2G coverage or just COVERAGE!!!!! in canada, Rogers (3G) companies coverage SUX and there regular coverage SUX just as much. TO BE CONTINUED
BlackKittenLover 1 year ago
@BlackKittenLover
Ya i was just making sure that you werent one of these other guys who would go to the ends of the earth and deny all things that go against them just to proove something to themselves.
I favour verizon but thats because me and my family like to travel to more out of the way places sometimes and Im more likely to get coverage in those areas(for down time during the vacation only though) But this is just my opinion so...ya
StedySniper 1 year ago
@StedySniper PART 2 Thank god TELUS is switching to HSPA+ it'll be the widest 3G coverage in canada, now back to the whole AT&T issue. being me i probably cant afford the data plans or anything so 3G doesnt matter to me. so that basically it.
BlackKittenLover 1 year ago
because the blackberry pearl with att does not have 3g
robloxkillerchiuwawa 1 year ago
Foolish answer. AT&T will get over it in a very few years, I'd guess, spreading their 3G network more widely over the USA and then making them retreat back again using a fitting opposing commercial - again that's my general opinion.
AA10Megaviv 1 year ago
wow the best thing that verizon can show is there map thats it.
TheXXxpsychosocialx 1 year ago
that's cold man.
DSIGUI60198 1 year ago
ahahaha OWNED but at&t beter
THEfriskyxcowboy 1 year ago
everyone is wasting their time arguing about this shit!! no one can really say that they have better coverage because it all depends on where you live and where you use it! an example is that apparently some people say that they switched to att because the verizon coverage sucks WHERE THEY ARE, where i live you can never get any service with att. it all depends where you live so just stopp arguing about this bulllshit.
xokaileyox97 1 year ago
this commercial is creepy =[
animeninja2 1 year ago
AT&T sued Verizon for attacking the iPhone 3GS. They failed to sue Verizon. So Verizon is winning! They will soon when they have 4G!
Jedijettson 1 year ago
AT&T used VZW for attaching the iPhone. They failed to sue Verizon. Verizon is winning? I don't get it.
And, PS, didn't you notice VZW's "new" network will suddenly use SIM cards and roam internationally. Hmmm...
duane534 1 year ago
Verizon covers rurals better. AT&T covers urban areas better. So, if you live in the rurals, get VZW. If you live in a city, get AT&T. (If you have a smartphone, get AT&T.)
duane534 1 year ago
verizon has more bars
supermantanban 1 year ago
Verizon are such liars. I used to have Verizon and I switched because of bad 3G coverage
Bdnnz 1 year ago
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duane534 1 year ago
that is so mean and untrue at&t has much more coverage duhhh
111skaterguy 1 year ago
@duane534 half of the US maybe?...
MrJimOrb 1 year ago
@MrJimOrb
Half of the US may not have 3G GSM coverage, but all that does is make it behave like CDMA everywhere.
Wouldn't you prefer to be able to multitask in cities with populations over 500 and just have voice OR data in other places than sit in Dallas/Fort Worth and STILL not be able to do it?
duane534 1 year ago
I can do that on 2G, nobody can do that on AT&T's 3G here, and it is on maximum amount of bars. Verizon, Sprint, and T-Mobile also do multi-task anywhere! The only thing that makes AT&T say they are the only ones is that it is easy on iPhone to do that... My phone (Sprint) can still multi-task while all AT&T in my town "When is it going to load the page?" While they are talking... I can Talk and Web Search just takes some brains... AT&T has nothing on any other company!
MrJimOrb 1 year ago
@MrJimOrb
There is no 2G protocol, GSM or otherwise, that can do voice and data at the same time, less you're connected to WiFi to supplement a cellular connection.
Don't even bring Sprint in the mix. At least, Verizon has a decent selection of phones. Ooh, a BB 8530? Too bad everyone else had the 85x0 series like a year ago. Does it even have WiFi?
duane534 1 year ago
Sprint has the Hero, Moment, Instinct(not best phone) and THE BEST coverage... Verizon has GOOD connection and BEST phones, AT&T has BAD connection and iPhone, what dumb person would switch just for the iPhone? AT&T constantly fails, WOW! I can take out a SIM card in AT&T, If I wanted to be able to do that I would switch to T-Mobile, you can at least make calls with them. With T-Mobile you also get the iPhone's present day successor Google's Nexus One!
MrJimOrb 1 year ago
I think it's cute how you think Sprint of all networks has the best coverage. That must be why they are #4 in the country. Verizon has great phones, sure. Prizewinners like the BlackBerry Storm 1 and the BlackBerry Tour. Oh, yeah. The Palm Pixi. You use the iPhone on AT&T because AT&T is the largest 3G GSM network in the United States. Period. The Nexus One is a fine phone, if you live on the West coast.
duane534 1 year ago
Sprint has THE best coverage, AT&T coverage(3G specifics) sucks!!! You can't deny that Sprint is #1 in coverage(U.S.) w/o lying your butt off. Also... Sprint isn't number four, it's number two(based on ACTUAL charts) You are trying to defend the worst network on a place where people are watching just to slam. You FAIL! This WILL be my LAST reply to the mentally numbed person! You will fail on your own without being proven wrong by ME but by others.
MrJimOrb 1 year ago
Sprint's 3G is as slow and ineffective as AT&T 2G, not even 2.5G. There's a reason they are hemorrhaging customers and money. If they had a future, they'd get good phones, for example. Manufacturers give networks who are selling phone and gaining customers exclusives. AT&T got the iPhone. AT&T got the BlackBerry Bold. Verizon got the Droid. Verizon got the BlackBerry Storm. Both of 'em. T-Mobile got the MyTouch. Not amazing, but I can see it. Sprint got... ... Oh, yeah. Nothing.
duane534 1 year ago
Because no manufacturer is stupid enough to lock a phone to a carrier who can't sell phones and keep customers. They couldn't even move Palms, so Palm took it from their hands and moved it to Verizon.
duane534 1 year ago
@duane534 shut up u dont no what ur talking about with that LARGEST GSM BS
marc4life22 1 year ago