It's shit like this: An Indiana Senate panel has approved a bill that would allow creationism to be taught in Indiana's public schools.
The Times of Munster reported that the Republican-controlled Senate Education Committee voted 8-2 Wednesday to send the legislation to the full Senate despite pleas from scientists and religious leaders to keep religion out of science classrooms. Creationism is the belief that the Earth and its creatures were created by a deity.
"despite pleas from scientists and religious leaders to keep religion out of science classrooms. Creationism is the belief that the Earth and its creatures were created by a deity"
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAH!!!!
This, usa is why your ability to fathom basic science is on par with fucking CYPRESS - a 2nd world country!.
This, usa, is why the world looks at you, scratches their head, smiles.. and says... what.. the .. fuck?
You used be be great, and now.. you're pure shit.
Okay, prove it. come on guy, you know I'm going to ask this. Show us what made YOU believe there is a god..
cos kid, I can GUARANTEE you, your proof is proof only to you - because you want it to be, so very badly. Wanting something to be proof does not make it proof, it makes you a fool.
God has anger? oh man.. your god is so very ungodlike. anger? such a pathetic, petty, ignorant human emotion. A being of "infinite love" - still gets pissy.
It's shit like this: Kentucky's governor effectively cuts $50 million from K-12 education funding in 2012-2013 fiscal year, but gives Ken Ham's creationist "Ark Park" a $43 million tax break and is paying for $11 million in road improvements near the park
@RustyCyler I realised my approach in my last reply to you was actually rather contradictory of what we're about. On judgement day there will be no rejoicing for those souls lost to the devil, there'll be tears and sadness. I was just really angry at your blatant disregard for other people's beliefs, total lack of respect. But I realise now that as a christian the best I can do is love you. So I apologise for making a mockery of you. God loves you very much, just hear Him out.
I believe he heals some as a testament of His glory and an upliftment of their faith, but doesn't heal others as a test of their faith, for we have to be able to endure all things and learn to lean on Him for strength. I am going through so many emotional problems right now, but I will still lean on Him, because I am a faith-woman. If Christ was mocked and nailed to a cross for me to live forever and finally rose again, then what's a little depression here and there?
@77ultraviola77 Yeah or perhaps there is not magic sky god breaking the laws of psychics for some random southern redneck in Alabama who has a slipped disc.
@77ultraviola77 From my point of you view, judging by the bizarre world that you believe in, you appear to be heavily indoctrinated in the death cult religion of christianity. I encourage to you to take another point of view. A skeptical view. You owe it to yourself to be honest. People who are indoctrinated into cults... ALWAYS say that they are not indoctrinated into cults. Google "cult" and "brainwashing". You have to understand how reality truly works.
@RustyCyler I think you've been brainwashed by the world. A world that is constantly telling us that there cannot be a God that loves with all that He is and is calling us to be with Him. It's not a cult and it is so much more than a religion. It's a relationship with Christ. Yeah science isn't on our side, but the Lord already has victory.
@RustyCyler Yeah, you're not all that bad too. I respect what you believe in which is what you see. Believe me I've taken the skeptic's path, I've gone to very great lengths to try and uncover this "sham" of christianity, but after a long time of running around in circles and tryin to fight what I can't see, God, and only He, met me in my need. I was a mess Rusty, and the glue of the belief in an all-superior God brought me back together. Call it placebo effect, I call it a miracle.
Humans are social - they assert an alpha figure to provide for, and to secure the society. BUT - humans are smart enough to know that there are things that are beyond the powers even of a human - so we make a better one up.
We're smart enough to describe this fabrication SO WELL, we delude ourselves. We're not yet smart enough to figure out why this is stupid - we're getting there though.
@TheRealityofNature In regards to "We're smart enough to describe this fabrication SO WELL, we delude ourselves. We're not yet smart enough to figure out...." A favorite quote of mine goes like this.... “The first principle is that you must not fool yourself and you are the easiest person to fool.”
@77ultraviola77 "Believe me I've taken the skeptic's path, I've gone to very great lengths to try and uncover this "sham" of christianity, but after a long time of running around in circles" My guess is that you either didn't didn't go to 'very great lengths' or... you're not very bright. The logical conclusion is atheism. The 'god theory' is a scam. A favorite quote of mine goes like this... “The first principle is that you must not fool yourself and you are the easiest person to fool.”
@dazz why was i molested but still praise GOD??? beck now i see that he is greater and it wasn't him WE LIVE IN A FALLEN WORLD LOOK AROUNDDDDDDDD HE CAME TO SAVE OUR SOULS THAT ARE WOUNDED AND HE WANTS TI RESTORE US,...IDK Y HE HEALS SOME AND NOT others idkkk...but i do know when we enter his glory the bible promises everything will then be revealed and we will just be like OH NOW I SEE....this life is a trip guys its a battle and will be until he returns cant wait..
john 3:16 for god so loved the world that he gave his only son not to condemn the world BUT to save the world......he didn't need too he wanted too beck he loves all of us too much...im merely human i know NOTHING i thought i knew it all but i was ignorant thought i was wise in my own foolishness...GOD IS LOVE and we are living in a fallen world he did say we will have trials an turbylations but take heart beca he has overcome the world
do yur homework and attempt to read the bible i suggest starting off with romans...beck to tell you the truth you are spiritually blind who claim to see but reality is yu cant...
wow y'all down there are arguing back and forth....i use hate and mock god like yu peeps down there and all i know now is he is alive and well and trust me you will be standing before him..whether u believe in him or not he still is, was, and is to come...GOD IS AWESOME AND ALIVE!
no "incovinaces" were imposed. I was able to wade through your silly post and quickly and easily point out why your faux-arrogance is misplaced, incorrect, and validate how and why I can judge exactly what kind of person you are - as far as that matters on youtube.
@TheRealityofNature for one thing I don't believe I was talking to you. And for your poorly made assumptions I was brought up in an atheist family but came to the love of God on my own. Therefore nobody "thought" me how to read the bible or do anything else that you sadly assumed I do. Maybe you should stop judging others even though we've never met.
"I don't believe I was talking to you" that's okay, you put your comment in the public domain, if you minded people commenting, you would have sent a private message.
"Therefore nobody "thought" me how to read the bible"
I didn't say that, I said you were taught to ignore things you don't like. The people in your religious community do this - parents or someone else.
I have the bible to tell me what kind of person you are - you love a god that murders kids.
I have personally witnessed over 70 miracles that have happened to people in the name and power of Jesus, that either my wife or I have prayed for, over 30 healings as well, and we have been places where over 766 people got healed in 1.5 hours. My broken leg, my own disk in my back, and a 5 year old boy who came back to life after drowning no pulse of breath for 10 mins, whether God exits or not is not the question, the question is do you know Him like we do?
@JCPrototype1 What about all the people who didn't receive your gods magic help ? Why does the magic man in the sky pick and choose ? Why does he fix your bad back but ignores the kids with cancer ? Why doesn't he ever do his magic tricks on amputees ? You never hear about the sky-god breaking the rules of physics for amputees. You asshats are a detriment to society. You cant talk to a sky-god by performing a mental telepathy ritual. People laugh at your gullibility and stupidity.
@RustyCyler One more point, tell me why if there isn't a God. Doctors, people with phd's, masters, and every title have tried to understand how our human body works and they haven't come close. They don't know why we sleep, they don't know how our brain works, all they have is theories.
We, humans, are the source of science. It took a while for people to find out that we are made up of atoms that are all around the earth, but God made us from mud and that is all we are.
@leoandsan "Doctors, people with phd's, masters, and every title have tried to understand how our human body works and they haven't come close. They don't know why we sleep, they don't know how our brain works, all they have is theories." The sheer and utter stupidity of that quote makes me angry at the legal status of the scam you have been suckered into. Complete suspension of reality and total lack of any knowledge. How old are you ?
@RustyCyler I don't know why you are getting all worked up, I am only telling you what us true. My age doesn't matter. I have been going to college for 4 years and I have learned that science can't even figure out out complexity.
or tell me do you have the answer? Explain this "stupidity" as you call it.
@leoandsan "God made us from mud and that is all we are. " Ha, I get it now, you're just fuckin' with me, you're kidding around. Good one pal, I really thought you were a real god-bot. Well played. You had me until the "god made us from mud" line. Hilarious, keep up the good work.
@RustyCyler I believe my first comment wasn't posted so I will post it again. God doesn't heal everybody because, first we are here on earth temporarily and second because we would take His healing for granted just like when Jesus was on earth when he was healing people and He asked them not to tell anyone but they did so people started to follow Jesus because they wanted to get better and not because He is the Son of God and the Messiah
I'm not. I'm also sorry I didn't know the love of kim jung il - he was another despot who tortured people who didn't whoreship him.
Your god is an evil, tyrannical, murdering, torturing despot - of course you know this if you have actually read the bible - but being christian, you're taught to ignore things you don't like.
you go worship your monster -your god is not worthy of mine, or anyone else's worship.
@elliphantness I'm sorry that you got suckered into a death cult. Perhaps you should go sacrifice a goat and then go fuck off to fuckity-off land. "love of god" pfffft, insanity.
@TheRealityofNature you know, if you stopped trying to start an argument and actually opened your eyes an tried to seek God then you would have a much better life. And trust me if you stopped looking at things with a conspicuous eye and searched or God I promise that he will find you and you would never be the same. And my proof? Just ask the people who searched for God( not you're atheist friends but people who seriously looked for God).
@elliphantness "you know, if you stopped trying to start an argument and actually opened your eyes an tried to seek God " Yeah TRON, stop asking questions and using logic and just roll with it, Zeus is real, or Yahweh or... whatever.... just stop being skeptical and don't think about it. Great advice elliphant.
@samori94 Focus on this you delusional bastard. People all over the world laugh at your insane notion of an invisible sky-god micromanaging the planet.
@RustyCyler Thats the attitude I am trying to avoid, about offending other people, well, If you feel that way, its okey.Believe whatever you want, but dont ignore the fact that there are lots of people following Jesus for a reason.:) ( we are not stupid, we know exactly in who we belived)
@samori94 Not stupid, but delusional. You've been suckered into a death cult that relies on bullshit supernatural mumbo jumbo to sucker in gullible people. The people who run your churches are multimillionaires. Scammed. For example, you can NOT perform mental telepathy to speak with some god living in outer space. Noah's ark is the biggest load of bullshit ever. You believe in 2000 yr old stories told by middle eastern sheep herders who had no idea how the world really works. Voodoo.
@RustyCyler And the real problem is you can't keep your fantasy world to yourselves. My god damn, mother fucking tax dollars go to fighting wars for Israel and to Ken Ham's creation "museum", and to religious fundy groups like Focus on the Family and 20 other bullshit foundations. You asshats deny evolution and want your myth taught to my kids. You folks are an embarrassment to the USA and to all of mankind. Shed the myths and embrace science backed logic and reason.
@RustyCyler All my life I´ve been thinking about that, like you say now. Cuestioning myself about what i think is the truth, but every day life shows me, that there´s more than the known stuff.. there`s more than this life. Watch around, look at the sky, the whole earth is a proof that God does exists,science also.Investigate. There are people that pretend theyre "Christians" and theyre not, in that youre right, but not all the people are like that. God knows who is and whos not.
OOOOoooooOOoo great invisible magic man in the sky.... OOOooooOOOOooo please, please save me.... save me from the sin of that dumb bitch who got duped by the talking snake..... OOOOOooooOOO Lawd, I sacrifice this goat in your magical name !!
@RustyCyler I was lost and now I'm found thanks to Jesus... if you want me to tell you where i have been and what i have done,, even then Jesus saved me and forgave me for all my sins... Just contact me 617-701-6060
"if you want me to tell you where i have been and what i have done,, even then Jesus saved me and forgave me for all my sins"
how about you tell us all about your irrefutable evidence that proves your god exists? when you've done that, I'll take it to a lab, have it tested, write it up and submit it to a peer-reviewed journal for publishing and fame. etc.
or is your evidence actually not really that intelligent afterall? do tell.
O and for all of you who think that God murders children thing again because if u look at the CONTEXT (meaning the surrounding few chapters that contains your verse in it) then you will see the truth that you have been shielding in front of your very eyes. Also there are many many many verses that state how much God loves us: "you knit me together in my mothers whom, you create my inmost being. I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully made!" also: "and when he was finished, God looke
God does love us and he doesn't torture them. That is a lie straight from Satan. Jesus Christ came into the world to set an example for all believers and to save us from the sin that we got ourselves into. God gives us the chose of free will and that is why bad things happen. God loves you more than we could ever EVER know. Don't believe me? Then I cab prove it. Get a Bible and read James or Romans and LISTEN to God WITHOUT a skeptical eye towards it all. I promise that He will speak. remember
"God does love us and he doesn't torture them. That is a lie straight from Satan"
lol - well what your god does with people who don't do what he says pretty much depends on which cult you follow. In any case, it's probably true that your particular cult holds that your god will in some way, punish people who don't abide. So loving!
When you read the bible, make sure you read it in the CONTEXT - you'll find your creator actually did hate his own creations.
@elliphantness "That is a lie straight from Satan" LOL.... please, please, please tell me all about the devil monster-man. LOL. Is he a "demon" or is he just the leader of the demons ? LOL. You. Are. Nuts. LOL, you guys crack me up, I love talkin' to yas.
We do need God and He does love us. Its our wretched sin and rebellion that is a slap in the face of a Holy God who sent His only Son to save us. Would you send your only son to die for me? That is love beyond comprehension. The last comment forgot to mention the years of pleading and warning that God's man Noah gave to the people of that day. God is always about grace. Think about that people.
@TheRealityofNature I understand your perspective. 1st question: You need to answer that urself. I need God b/c I was nothing without Him, (msg me and I'll tell u full story). You may need Him for another reason in ur life.
Torture: God is not capable of that. The devil runs the Earth.
God did not create sin, he gave man choice. Choose wrong/right.
@TheRealityofNature Sacrifice: It's hard to understand another perspective if u dont research it. Like voting, we need to know what both parties r offering before we make an informed decision. Before Jesus, if we sinned, we had to go through "loong prayers and sacrifices" to be forgiven and purify ourselves. Jesus walked the Earth as a MAN! His purpose was to be sacrificed in place of the "loong prayer and sacrifices" Instead of going through the loong prayer etc, we say "In the name of Jesus.."
@dazzasplinter Why didn't your space-lord heal other deaf folks, only you ? Because there is no magic man in the sky granting random wishes to random people. You fucking dumbass.
@dazzasplinter I asked you a question over two days ago and you didn't respond yet so I'll ask you again. Why didn't your space-lord heal other deaf folks, only you ?
"Before Jesus, if we sinned, we had to go through "loong prayers and sacrifices""
okay, so these loooong prayers you're fond of talking about, that your god demands - how exactly does that describe a balanced god? he needs you to whoreship his ego 24/7 - why exactly?
I see, so your god sacrificed his own son to himself, so that you can please him? Do I have that right?
go through those words I just wrote slowly. think about them.
@TheRealityofNature I read, and reread, and thought about your words. But you can only speak rationally to someone who is willing to hear, and objectively understand. This is difficult to do, especially when it comes to Jesus. It's difficult to objectively understand a perspective that seems alien and contradictory to our beliefs. A day will soon come when we will all find out whats really true. When that day comes, I don't want to be on the side that didn't believe.
I read the first part of your post and assumed you were atheist!
then I read the rest of it.
Yes, it's difficult for me to understand why you insist a fact that you actually cannot validate. I really don't get it.
Theism is defined as being illogical. It's how it works. There is NO reason, NO logic, NO sense, NO evidence, NOTHING intelligent or rational at ALL. Religion is IRRATIONAL. it is defined as being so.
@TheRealityofNature "Theism is defined as being illogical" actually the dictionary says Theism (noun) 1. the belief in one God as the creator and ruler of the universe, without rejection of revelation.
Why do you lie to me?
How about you make it logical, sensible & show evidence that God doesn't exist, since you're a rational and intelligent person.
.. and because I ran out of room - to use the socratic method to show you how nonsnsical your last point is:
how about you provide evidence that zeus doesn't exist? - see, karil, you're atheist too - I'm just one-god-more atheist than you. You claim there is no evidence for ANY other god - exactly as I do - except you make another logical fallacy - that of "special pleading" - go read about logic okay?
@TheRealityofNature Logic: Reasoning conducted or assessed according to strict principles of validity.
What is valid? All you have is a theory. How do we know that there is not a God? (I shared with you why I believe there is a God) My belief gives me peace, joy and everything else I need to live life. Hope you find that too bud.
ugh. the more I read, the more clear is the problem:
it's that theists like you actually have no idea what you're talking about.
1. I haven't told you my point, but you pretend you know anyhow. That's stupid.
2. you use words like "theory" without knowing what they are, or how to use them.
3. when (incorrectly) berating someone for not having evidence and claiming this means they're wrong - you being - NOTHING logical or testable to the table.
@TheRealityofNature The forum has been open for your point, you didnt need my permission to state it. If you havent said it then do tell =)
Yeah, I've only read thousands of dissertations/theses to not know what a theory is. Again I repeat, will gladly share all my information if you are willing to put away stereotypes and completely objectively listen, without accusations. Enjoy =)
look. YOU have assumed my position. YOU are wrong. YOU need to ask me what it is, BEFORE you try to tell me what I think. Understand?
This comes BEFORE you say stupid things like "all you have is a theory".
(notwithstanding that a "theory" in correct usage refers to a concept so well validated, the only thing keeping it from being a "fact" is intellectual honesty.
@TheRealityofNature In fact, I thought you were someone looking for information as my initial response included replies to questions posted about Jesus. But I see you've already been given better responses by others during the past weeks. Despite these clearer responses, demeaning language ensued. I wish you well bud, people don't always see eye to eye on everything, but this is a platform of people who really love Jesus. If you don't agree with the belief, cursing/accusing it not the way.
yep, your friend showed in the case of morality at least, your religion is utterly unnecessary. You might not claim your god is the source of morality, but theists do - your friend shows why this claim is wrong.
You are actually making MY argument. Thanks. it makes it easier when you already understand my point.
Anyways, how about publishing your proof now? Nature journal will certainly publish your robust proof of god.
@TheRealityofNature I was just reading the banter between you and karinnaism1 and I've asked you before and I gotta ask you again, why do you even bother to address these nut-balls ? I can pretend that I'm a god-bot and reply to your comments with nearly the same wording/logic as every one of these god-bots use. You'll never, ever get through to these people. When they're at the point of singing songs about their cult leader, its over for em, they're brainwashed too much.
true, I'm not trying to point out their own stupidity to them. I'm pointing it out to everyone else - especially the marginal kids who are indoctrinated by cruel abusive, religious parents.
@RustyCyler its funny how you'd go as far as posting messed up comments on religious tracks, i mean if you really don't care then just leave us to our "stupidity". This experience is for the individual and these "fools" you're mocking know exactly why they do what they do. So i suggest you keep your issues with us to yourself 'cause you're really just wasting your time. Just so you know, this is NOT a cult, its a lifestyle, you choose it, and you're never forced to live it.
I see people respond to videos like this "all I need is you lord" - and then read passages like genesis 6:7:
"And the LORD said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them."
yeah.. all we need is a god who created us, and hates us so intensely, he's willing to drown everyone, even the innocent children.
eestaa cannciion laa kntoo aa diiaariioo kn mii mjorr amiigo irving, graaciias aa eeL coonoocii verdaderamentee a diioss & mee dii cuentaa de loo muxoo qee mee amaba
We have been lied to and many things we are taught have been lies and are not even in Scripture. If you are a truth seeker then check out the site in my user name and listen to the audio there. You will be shocked and you will come away asking many questions. Thanks
I see the fish bowl boys are still at it! If they really know what Darwin said they would know that Darwin himself, stated that if science did not prove his "theory's" in 100 years, they should be dropped. As his theory's had no scientific proof behind them. Read Darwin's letter's!
But, hey these guys aren't about the truth. They are just about hate and discontent! Still pissed off that their believe system is not providing them the support they need! We still continue to pray for you! God bless
"No, I have faith. In the beginning there was God..... you may recognise the Scripture."
yes, I know you have faith - I said exactly that: ""I want it to be god, but I have no way of knowing, so rather than make sense, I'm going to insist as fact something I simply want to be true, without being able to intelligently validate it." - this IS faith.
@The.RealityofNature mmm logic and reason he says! yes, the world in its perfect balanced nature came to being from a big ba ng. Intelligent life derived from a single cell organism. Man co mes from ape yet we still have apes. Carbon dating is entirely accurate. Layers of ice indicate years. Nothing travels faster than light...the list goes on. Tell me about your accurate logic and reason and then I'll tell you about mine.
YOUR particular barstardization of logic and reason might, but your particular barstardization of logic and reason is neither logic nor reason.
YOU don't get to choose what logic and reason is kid, any more than you get to choose what math you use. Logic and reason are defined, they're a script. You either follow it and be logical, or you don't, and you're illogical.
@TheRealityofNature Evolution predicts?????? how can something devised after the fact - predict? Big Bang - More like Big Bull!, Earth IS perfectly balance to support life!, Carbon dating proved inacurate on many occasions!! Perhaps you don't actually fall into this "intelligent" minority - after all!!
hehe, I love it that you exemplify everything that is moronic about theists: you have no idea what you're talking about, but damn if you're gonna insist it's wrong - even though you're clueless.
Evolution was first explored by studying finches. Later, Darwin extrapolated the concept and showed it also explained the decent of man. Evolution has predicted quite a lot of things: the existence of DNA is probably the most important.
"Big Bang - More like Big Bull!, Earth IS perfectly balance to support life"
actually, only a miniscule fraction of the earth supports OUR life. We can't live more than about 5000 m high without freezing or asphixiating, we will DIE if we lie in an inch of water, and water covers MOST of the planet surface. We exist in a miniscule layer suspended between magma that would incinerate us, and space where we would simultaneously boil, freeze and asphyxiate.
"Carbon dating proved inacurate on many occasions!!"
Only a dickhead like you thinks you can build an entire house using only a hammer - you have to use an appropriate tool. Radioactive decay works, but it has limits, carbondating is not appropriate after some well-known time interval, within that time interval, it's fine. Outside that interval, other tools are used.
Or do you think you can excavate house foundations using only a hammer?
1; you're ENTIRELY ignorant of what evolution is, it's history, and how it's been developed.
2. your astoundingly limited concept of how our earth ACTUALLY is, rather than the idyllic eden you want it to be. That fatal disease exists should have been your first clue.
3. You make the ultimate theist stupditiy: "waaa, carbon datin' dunt werk!".
Next you'll tell me DNA defies the 2nd law of thermodynamics. holy fuck.
@TheRealityofNature Wow - great replies RoN. You have taught me a few things and I thank you for that! Your knowledge is certainly vast on the subject. Question is: Where did it all come from. How did it all begin? Regardless of whether the earth is 80 million years old or 6000 years old and if we did or did not originate from amoeba. You'll answer....from nothing. i answer....from God!
wow really? I learned all that in highschool - my university education has nothing to do with evolution. Actually I leaned evolution in primary school.
Don't they teach you these things in highschool in your country? uh, stupid question really...
"Question is: Where did it all come from" my answer: I don't know. your answer is ALSO " I don't know". sorry kid. you can't lie on this one.
lol - no really, your answer is "I want it to be god, but I have no way of knowing, so rather than make sense, I'm going to insist as fact something I simply want to be true, without being able to intelligently validate it."
@TheRealityofNature Not at all mate - but your continued need to curse & swear doesn't exactly set you up for any maturity awards!! Again, it was sarcastic & again, I forgot to mark it for your attention - my sincerest apologies.
"doesn't exactly set you up for any maturity awards"
damn, you mean theists who think snakes can talk and people can walk on water think I'm being silly?
gawrsh - how will I ever live with myself knowing I'm not approved of by people who whoreship a god that murders innocent children. I must be silly or something!
@TheRealityofNature nope....never said it was my proof. Read it again dummy. We all know that their is no scientific proof for or opposed. That is the joy of faith. Doesn't matter what you say buddy...your time will come & you'll have to do some serious back pedaling. In this I have considerable faith!
@nineironmanagement ."your time will come & you'll have to do some serious back pedaling" What does that mean? From the eyes of someone who hasn't been indoctrinated with god worshiping I find this stuff really interesting.There are so many god stories and variations of god stories its hard for me to remember em all, what did you mean by the sentence that I quoted ? What do you think is going to happen to TRON when he dies ?Describe it in detail if you could.I have questions.
@RustyCyler In all honesty, I do not know what what will happen to RoN when he dies - The Bible clearly defines what we are to expect but since neither you nor RoN take scripture as authorative, it really doesn't matter to you. So henceforth, no long explanation is worth my time in this instence. However, should you feel compelled to research, as i know you like to do - feel free to reference the Bible, the most published book ever!!
"So henceforth, no long explanation is worth my time in this instence [sic]"
which is an illiterate way of saying " It's better for me to keep my mouth shut and be thought a fool, than to open it, and remove all doubt"
"the Bible, the most published book ever!!"
is this some kind of ad populum argument? lol - I hope not, fellah, even my 12 year old nephew could tell you why that's fucking stupid. o no! I used the "f" word again - will your head explode?
@TheRealityofNature maybe your 12 year old nephew should tell you what a door knob you are mate. I'm very surprised that you didn't check my claims before you came here shooting your mouth off again . For your information: 6 billion Bibles printed followed by Quotations from Chairman Mao Zedong by Mao Zedong at 900 million.
"nothing to do with ad-populum mate!! In true RoN style.... facts are facts!!"
You bleat often about "the bible is the highest-selling book" or "the most published".
I suppose the point you're trying to make here is that, in fact, the publishers of said book, and related commercial merchandise, are really just amongst the richest in the world - very christianly having exploited everyone else's wallets.
true, I assumed. At least most theists are honest enough to admit they use the bible as their ultimate proof, but okay, you think the bible is lies, good for you.
"In this I have considerable faith!"
yes, that's ALL you have - faith: belief without proof - you have absolutely NO defensible or intelligent reason for your faith - and THAT, my ignorant droog is why atheism is more honest and more intelligent.
@TheRealityofNature " you think the bible is lies, good for you." Nope!! Never said that either!! Ron.... READ the posts before replying - but good effort in using a false declaration to set-up another "Mine is better than yours" statement. Well done
"" you think the bible is lies, good for you." Nope!! Never said that either!"
oh yes yes, my honest mistake.
So you don't think the bible is truth, and you don't think it lies.
you're entirely clueless aren't you?
setting "mine is better than yours"? not at all, setting up a demonstration of the fact you have no idea what you think - and you played the part of confused theist wonderfully - well done.
@TheRealityofNature Yes...you are making these "honest" mistakes pretty often these days. It gives away your attempts at trying to manipulate the conversation. Let's just clarify. I put all my trust in the Bible as do millions of others. You need to accept this RIM....You and your minority club of faithless buddies.
@TheRealityofNature "which also correlates with the minority club of the well-educated" - mine is better than yours again, eh? Grow up RoN! These schoolyard games are boring!!
Why most Chrostian guys are so cute?
belegulo 19 hours ago
Dear christian brothers and sisters, don't feed the troll. They are empty, so they to do that. God bless you all.
belegulo 19 hours ago
It's shit like this: An Indiana Senate panel has approved a bill that would allow creationism to be taught in Indiana's public schools.
The Times of Munster reported that the Republican-controlled Senate Education Committee voted 8-2 Wednesday to send the legislation to the full Senate despite pleas from scientists and religious leaders to keep religion out of science classrooms. Creationism is the belief that the Earth and its creatures were created by a deity.
RustyCyler 1 day ago
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@RustyCyler
"despite pleas from scientists and religious leaders to keep religion out of science classrooms. Creationism is the belief that the Earth and its creatures were created by a deity"
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAH!!!!
This, usa is why your ability to fathom basic science is on par with fucking CYPRESS - a 2nd world country!.
This, usa, is why the world looks at you, scratches their head, smiles.. and says... what.. the .. fuck?
You used be be great, and now.. you're pure shit.
TheRealityofNature 1 day ago
@RustyCyler
There is a God
God's anger is shown from heaven against all the evil and
wrong things people do,by their own evil lives they hide the
truth,God shows his anger because some knowledge of him has
been made clear to them,yes God has shown himself to them.
romans 1:18-19
about time the senate got something right,a very good bill.......
oceantalk1 1 day ago
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@oceantalk1
"There is a God"
Okay, prove it. come on guy, you know I'm going to ask this. Show us what made YOU believe there is a god..
cos kid, I can GUARANTEE you, your proof is proof only to you - because you want it to be, so very badly. Wanting something to be proof does not make it proof, it makes you a fool.
God has anger? oh man.. your god is so very ungodlike. anger? such a pathetic, petty, ignorant human emotion. A being of "infinite love" - still gets pissy.
TheRealityofNature 10 hours ago
@RustyCyler
There are things about him that people can not see-his
eternal power and all the things that make him God,but since
the beginning of the world those things have been easy to
understand by what God has made,so people have no excuse for
the bad things they do romans 1:20-21
let God be true and every man a liar romans 3:4
the word of our God stands forever isaiah 40:8
oceantalk1 1 day ago
@RustyCyler
in the beginning was the word,the word was with God and the
word was God,
he was in the beginning with God,all things were made through him,
and without him nothing was made that was made john 1:1-3
so you see Almighty God created everything that was made
there is a God
oceantalk1 1 day ago
I think that the most important think we need to live in this world is YOU LORD
jolenga1 2 days ago
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estibalisee 2 days ago
Hillsong United is the best in this kind of music and this song belongs to my number 3 favourites of all times from them.
Erikdegroot69 3 days ago
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unitslost 5 days ago
wow i remember when this had less then 50,000 views... LOL
TYAYOOFFICIAL 1 week ago
It's shit like this: Kentucky's governor effectively cuts $50 million from K-12 education funding in 2012-2013 fiscal year, but gives Ken Ham's creationist "Ark Park" a $43 million tax break and is paying for $11 million in road improvements near the park
RustyCyler 1 week ago
@RustyCyler I realised my approach in my last reply to you was actually rather contradictory of what we're about. On judgement day there will be no rejoicing for those souls lost to the devil, there'll be tears and sadness. I was just really angry at your blatant disregard for other people's beliefs, total lack of respect. But I realise now that as a christian the best I can do is love you. So I apologise for making a mockery of you. God loves you very much, just hear Him out.
77ultraviola77 6 days ago
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@77ultraviola77 ya know UV, you're alright. I won't pick on you anymore. But I still think you're wrong :-)
RustyCyler 5 days ago
God loves us , even knowing who we are and from that fact no one can scape
edluis37 1 week ago
Why can't Jesus eat M&Ms?
Because they keep falling through the holes in his hands!
RustyCyler 1 week ago
Jesus walks into a hotel, puts some nails on the counter and said, "Can you put me up for the night?"
RustyCyler 1 week ago
I believe he heals some as a testament of His glory and an upliftment of their faith, but doesn't heal others as a test of their faith, for we have to be able to endure all things and learn to lean on Him for strength. I am going through so many emotional problems right now, but I will still lean on Him, because I am a faith-woman. If Christ was mocked and nailed to a cross for me to live forever and finally rose again, then what's a little depression here and there?
77ultraviola77 1 week ago
@77ultraviola77 Yeah or perhaps there is not magic sky god breaking the laws of psychics for some random southern redneck in Alabama who has a slipped disc.
RustyCyler 1 week ago
@RustyCyler I'd give anything to say your face on Judgement Day, then walk up and say "Boo-Yahh!! told you my Jesus is real!" lol
77ultraviola77 1 week ago
@77ultraviola77 From my point of you view, judging by the bizarre world that you believe in, you appear to be heavily indoctrinated in the death cult religion of christianity. I encourage to you to take another point of view. A skeptical view. You owe it to yourself to be honest. People who are indoctrinated into cults... ALWAYS say that they are not indoctrinated into cults. Google "cult" and "brainwashing". You have to understand how reality truly works.
RustyCyler 5 days ago
@RustyCyler I think you've been brainwashed by the world. A world that is constantly telling us that there cannot be a God that loves with all that He is and is calling us to be with Him. It's not a cult and it is so much more than a religion. It's a relationship with Christ. Yeah science isn't on our side, but the Lord already has victory.
rawrgDX 4 days ago
@rawrgDX My god is an Indian that turns into a wolf. Wolfen.
RustyCyler 4 days ago
@RustyCyler Typical. No respect.
aShoe0o 4 days ago in playlist Church
@rawrgDX
"I think you've been brainwashed by the world. A world that is constantly telling us that there cannot be a God that loves..."
you theists are not too bright are you?
The world has about 7 billion people on it. 2.3 billion of them are christian, the rest, largely speaking, are other religions.
I don't know which world you're talking about, but it's not ours, christianity is the largest, and most noisy.
"Yeah science isn't on our side" - & that doesn't give you a clue?
TheRealityofNature 4 days ago
@RustyCyler Yeah, you're not all that bad too. I respect what you believe in which is what you see. Believe me I've taken the skeptic's path, I've gone to very great lengths to try and uncover this "sham" of christianity, but after a long time of running around in circles and tryin to fight what I can't see, God, and only He, met me in my need. I was a mess Rusty, and the glue of the belief in an all-superior God brought me back together. Call it placebo effect, I call it a miracle.
77ultraviola77 4 days ago
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@77ultraviola77
"Call it placebo effect, I call it a miracle."
I call it sociology.
Humans are social - they assert an alpha figure to provide for, and to secure the society. BUT - humans are smart enough to know that there are things that are beyond the powers even of a human - so we make a better one up.
We're smart enough to describe this fabrication SO WELL, we delude ourselves. We're not yet smart enough to figure out why this is stupid - we're getting there though.
TheRealityofNature 3 days ago
@TheRealityofNature In regards to "We're smart enough to describe this fabrication SO WELL, we delude ourselves. We're not yet smart enough to figure out...." A favorite quote of mine goes like this.... “The first principle is that you must not fool yourself and you are the easiest person to fool.”
― Richard P. Feynman
RustyCyler 1 day ago
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@77ultraviola77 "Believe me I've taken the skeptic's path, I've gone to very great lengths to try and uncover this "sham" of christianity, but after a long time of running around in circles" My guess is that you either didn't didn't go to 'very great lengths' or... you're not very bright. The logical conclusion is atheism. The 'god theory' is a scam. A favorite quote of mine goes like this... “The first principle is that you must not fool yourself and you are the easiest person to fool.”
RustyCyler 1 day ago
@RustyCyler ― Richard P. Feynman
RustyCyler 1 day ago
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@RustyCyler
"Richard P. Feynman"
a magnificent example of what the usa used to be capable of producing and fostering.
"ted haggart"
a magnificent example of what the usa is now reduced to producing and fostering.
TheRealityofNature 1 day ago
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RustyCyler 5 days ago
@dazz why was i molested but still praise GOD??? beck now i see that he is greater and it wasn't him WE LIVE IN A FALLEN WORLD LOOK AROUNDDDDDDDD HE CAME TO SAVE OUR SOULS THAT ARE WOUNDED AND HE WANTS TI RESTORE US,...IDK Y HE HEALS SOME AND NOT others idkkk...but i do know when we enter his glory the bible promises everything will then be revealed and we will just be like OH NOW I SEE....this life is a trip guys its a battle and will be until he returns cant wait..
stargoer 1 week ago
@stargoer LOL
RustyCyler 1 week ago
john 3:16 for god so loved the world that he gave his only son not to condemn the world BUT to save the world......he didn't need too he wanted too beck he loves all of us too much...im merely human i know NOTHING i thought i knew it all but i was ignorant thought i was wise in my own foolishness...GOD IS LOVE and we are living in a fallen world he did say we will have trials an turbylations but take heart beca he has overcome the world
stargoer 1 week ago
do yur homework and attempt to read the bible i suggest starting off with romans...beck to tell you the truth you are spiritually blind who claim to see but reality is yu cant...
stargoer 1 week ago
wow y'all down there are arguing back and forth....i use hate and mock god like yu peeps down there and all i know now is he is alive and well and trust me you will be standing before him..whether u believe in him or not he still is, was, and is to come...GOD IS AWESOME AND ALIVE!
stargoer 1 week ago
someone teach elliphantness how to properly reply to a YouTube comment.
RustyCyler 1 week ago
@TheRealityofNature i ascidetally made a typeo: when I said "thought" I really meant "taught" . Sorry for the incovinaces.
elliphantness 1 week ago
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@elliphantness
no "incovinaces" were imposed. I was able to wade through your silly post and quickly and easily point out why your faux-arrogance is misplaced, incorrect, and validate how and why I can judge exactly what kind of person you are - as far as that matters on youtube.
enjoy!
TheRealityofNature 1 week ago
@TheRealityofNature for one thing I don't believe I was talking to you. And for your poorly made assumptions I was brought up in an atheist family but came to the love of God on my own. Therefore nobody "thought" me how to read the bible or do anything else that you sadly assumed I do. Maybe you should stop judging others even though we've never met.
Enjoy!
elliphantness 1 week ago
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@elliphantness
"I don't believe I was talking to you" that's okay, you put your comment in the public domain, if you minded people commenting, you would have sent a private message.
"Therefore nobody "thought" me how to read the bible"
I didn't say that, I said you were taught to ignore things you don't like. The people in your religious community do this - parents or someone else.
I have the bible to tell me what kind of person you are - you love a god that murders kids.
TheRealityofNature 1 week ago
Very good!
SanderAlexZS 1 week ago in playlist YouTube Mix for Hillsong United
I have personally witnessed over 70 miracles that have happened to people in the name and power of Jesus, that either my wife or I have prayed for, over 30 healings as well, and we have been places where over 766 people got healed in 1.5 hours. My broken leg, my own disk in my back, and a 5 year old boy who came back to life after drowning no pulse of breath for 10 mins, whether God exits or not is not the question, the question is do you know Him like we do?
JCPrototype1 1 week ago
@JCPrototype1 LOL
RustyCyler 1 week ago
@JCPrototype1 What about all the people who didn't receive your gods magic help ? Why does the magic man in the sky pick and choose ? Why does he fix your bad back but ignores the kids with cancer ? Why doesn't he ever do his magic tricks on amputees ? You never hear about the sky-god breaking the rules of physics for amputees. You asshats are a detriment to society. You cant talk to a sky-god by performing a mental telepathy ritual. People laugh at your gullibility and stupidity.
RustyCyler 1 week ago
@RustyCyler One more point, tell me why if there isn't a God. Doctors, people with phd's, masters, and every title have tried to understand how our human body works and they haven't come close. They don't know why we sleep, they don't know how our brain works, all they have is theories.
We, humans, are the source of science. It took a while for people to find out that we are made up of atoms that are all around the earth, but God made us from mud and that is all we are.
leoandsan 1 week ago
@leoandsan "Doctors, people with phd's, masters, and every title have tried to understand how our human body works and they haven't come close. They don't know why we sleep, they don't know how our brain works, all they have is theories." The sheer and utter stupidity of that quote makes me angry at the legal status of the scam you have been suckered into. Complete suspension of reality and total lack of any knowledge. How old are you ?
RustyCyler 1 week ago
@RustyCyler I don't know why you are getting all worked up, I am only telling you what us true. My age doesn't matter. I have been going to college for 4 years and I have learned that science can't even figure out out complexity.
or tell me do you have the answer? Explain this "stupidity" as you call it.
leoandsan 1 week ago
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@leoandsan "God made us from mud and that is all we are. " Ha, I get it now, you're just fuckin' with me, you're kidding around. Good one pal, I really thought you were a real god-bot. Well played. You had me until the "god made us from mud" line. Hilarious, keep up the good work.
RustyCyler 1 week ago
@RustyCyler I believe my first comment wasn't posted so I will post it again. God doesn't heal everybody because, first we are here on earth temporarily and second because we would take His healing for granted just like when Jesus was on earth when he was healing people and He asked them not to tell anyone but they did so people started to follow Jesus because they wanted to get better and not because He is the Son of God and the Messiah
leoandsan 1 week ago
@RustyCyler I'm sorry that you dont know the love of God.
elliphantness 1 week ago
@elliphantness
"I'm sorry that you dont know the love of God"
I'm not. I'm also sorry I didn't know the love of kim jung il - he was another despot who tortured people who didn't whoreship him.
Your god is an evil, tyrannical, murdering, torturing despot - of course you know this if you have actually read the bible - but being christian, you're taught to ignore things you don't like.
you go worship your monster -your god is not worthy of mine, or anyone else's worship.
TheRealityofNature 1 week ago
@elliphantness I'm sorry that you got suckered into a death cult. Perhaps you should go sacrifice a goat and then go fuck off to fuckity-off land. "love of god" pfffft, insanity.
RustyCyler 1 week ago
@TheRealityofNature you know, if you stopped trying to start an argument and actually opened your eyes an tried to seek God then you would have a much better life. And trust me if you stopped looking at things with a conspicuous eye and searched or God I promise that he will find you and you would never be the same. And my proof? Just ask the people who searched for God( not you're atheist friends but people who seriously looked for God).
elliphantness 1 week ago
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@elliphantness "you know, if you stopped trying to start an argument and actually opened your eyes an tried to seek God " Yeah TRON, stop asking questions and using logic and just roll with it, Zeus is real, or Yahweh or... whatever.... just stop being skeptical and don't think about it. Great advice elliphant.
RustyCyler 1 week ago
Shut up and enjoy the song! Some people are trying to focus on God.
If you dont belive in HIM, well... search for other video. Thanks. :)
samori94 1 week ago in playlist YouTube Mix for Hillsong United
@samori94 Couldn't have said it any better. Wonderful song! =)
kariinaism1 1 week ago
@samori94 Focus on this you delusional bastard. People all over the world laugh at your insane notion of an invisible sky-god micromanaging the planet.
RustyCyler 1 week ago
@RustyCyler Thats the attitude I am trying to avoid, about offending other people, well, If you feel that way, its okey.Believe whatever you want, but dont ignore the fact that there are lots of people following Jesus for a reason.:) ( we are not stupid, we know exactly in who we belived)
samori94 1 week ago
@samori94 Not stupid, but delusional. You've been suckered into a death cult that relies on bullshit supernatural mumbo jumbo to sucker in gullible people. The people who run your churches are multimillionaires. Scammed. For example, you can NOT perform mental telepathy to speak with some god living in outer space. Noah's ark is the biggest load of bullshit ever. You believe in 2000 yr old stories told by middle eastern sheep herders who had no idea how the world really works. Voodoo.
RustyCyler 1 week ago
@RustyCyler And the real problem is you can't keep your fantasy world to yourselves. My god damn, mother fucking tax dollars go to fighting wars for Israel and to Ken Ham's creation "museum", and to religious fundy groups like Focus on the Family and 20 other bullshit foundations. You asshats deny evolution and want your myth taught to my kids. You folks are an embarrassment to the USA and to all of mankind. Shed the myths and embrace science backed logic and reason.
RustyCyler 1 week ago
@RustyCyler All my life I´ve been thinking about that, like you say now. Cuestioning myself about what i think is the truth, but every day life shows me, that there´s more than the known stuff.. there`s more than this life. Watch around, look at the sky, the whole earth is a proof that God does exists,science also.Investigate. There are people that pretend theyre "Christians" and theyre not, in that youre right, but not all the people are like that. God knows who is and whos not.
samori94 4 days ago
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"I was born deaf and this imaginary Jesus you speak of healed me when I six years old , I now have perfect hearing"
As for being born deaf - you're not alone.
As for being "healed" - it's happened countless times, others will claim OTHER gods healed them.
As for NOT being healed by your god, and being deaf for the baby's entire life - happens in almost every case.
The fact you're healed, and almost noone else is, is proof of your god is it?
TheRealityofNature 1 week ago
OOOOoooooOOoo great invisible magic man in the sky.... OOOooooOOOOooo please, please save me.... save me from the sin of that dumb bitch who got duped by the talking snake..... OOOOOooooOOO Lawd, I sacrifice this goat in your magical name !!
RustyCyler 1 week ago
@RustyCyler I was lost and now I'm found thanks to Jesus... if you want me to tell you where i have been and what i have done,, even then Jesus saved me and forgave me for all my sins... Just contact me 617-701-6060
fsinatrame 6 days ago
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@fsinatrame
"if you want me to tell you where i have been and what i have done,, even then Jesus saved me and forgave me for all my sins"
how about you tell us all about your irrefutable evidence that proves your god exists? when you've done that, I'll take it to a lab, have it tested, write it up and submit it to a peer-reviewed journal for publishing and fame. etc.
or is your evidence actually not really that intelligent afterall? do tell.
TheRealityofNature 4 days ago
"Lord" LOL fuckin' "Lord". You guys are hilarious.
RustyCyler 1 week ago
O and for all of you who think that God murders children thing again because if u look at the CONTEXT (meaning the surrounding few chapters that contains your verse in it) then you will see the truth that you have been shielding in front of your very eyes. Also there are many many many verses that state how much God loves us: "you knit me together in my mothers whom, you create my inmost being. I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully made!" also: "and when he was finished, God looke
elliphantness 2 weeks ago
@elliphantness LOL
RustyCyler 1 week ago
God does love us and he doesn't torture them. That is a lie straight from Satan. Jesus Christ came into the world to set an example for all believers and to save us from the sin that we got ourselves into. God gives us the chose of free will and that is why bad things happen. God loves you more than we could ever EVER know. Don't believe me? Then I cab prove it. Get a Bible and read James or Romans and LISTEN to God WITHOUT a skeptical eye towards it all. I promise that He will speak. remember
elliphantness 2 weeks ago
@elliphantness
"God does love us and he doesn't torture them. That is a lie straight from Satan"
lol - well what your god does with people who don't do what he says pretty much depends on which cult you follow. In any case, it's probably true that your particular cult holds that your god will in some way, punish people who don't abide. So loving!
When you read the bible, make sure you read it in the CONTEXT - you'll find your creator actually did hate his own creations.
enjoy!
TheRealityofNature 1 week ago 2
@elliphantness "That is a lie straight from Satan" LOL.... please, please, please tell me all about the devil monster-man. LOL. Is he a "demon" or is he just the leader of the demons ? LOL. You. Are. Nuts. LOL, you guys crack me up, I love talkin' to yas.
RustyCyler 1 week ago
all i need is you God to save me
mimikaks 2 weeks ago 6
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@mimikaks All you need is a psychiatrist and good dose of knowledge.
RustyCyler 1 week ago 2
We do need God and He does love us. Its our wretched sin and rebellion that is a slap in the face of a Holy God who sent His only Son to save us. Would you send your only son to die for me? That is love beyond comprehension. The last comment forgot to mention the years of pleading and warning that God's man Noah gave to the people of that day. God is always about grace. Think about that people.
reesepiece1029 2 weeks ago
@reesepiece1029 LOL
RustyCyler 2 weeks ago
@reesepiece1029
"We do need God" why?
"and He does love us" - yet he tortures almost ALL his creations
"Its our wretched sin and rebellion" - that he created.
"God who sent His only Son to save us" - he sacrificed himself, to himself. so he could go back to heaven - noone died here guy.
"God's man Noah" before murdering ALL his creations, because he hated them.
Yeah, I thought about it, and when I do: none of it makes any sense at all. It makes sense only when you DON'T think.
TheRealityofNature 2 weeks ago
@TheRealityofNature I understand your perspective. 1st question: You need to answer that urself. I need God b/c I was nothing without Him, (msg me and I'll tell u full story). You may need Him for another reason in ur life.
Torture: God is not capable of that. The devil runs the Earth.
God did not create sin, he gave man choice. Choose wrong/right.
kariinaism1 2 weeks ago
@TheRealityofNature Sacrifice: It's hard to understand another perspective if u dont research it. Like voting, we need to know what both parties r offering before we make an informed decision. Before Jesus, if we sinned, we had to go through "loong prayers and sacrifices" to be forgiven and purify ourselves. Jesus walked the Earth as a MAN! His purpose was to be sacrificed in place of the "loong prayer and sacrifices" Instead of going through the loong prayer etc, we say "In the name of Jesus.."
kariinaism1 2 weeks ago
@kariinaism1, except that god is imaginary and Jesus was just another superstiitous iron age peasant who belived in an imaginary god.
Stumperx 2 weeks ago
@Stumperx We'll see about that. =)
kariinaism1 2 weeks ago
@Stumperx
I was born deaf and this imaginary Jesus you speak of healed me when I six years old , I now have perfect hearing
dazzasplinter 2 weeks ago 16
@dazzasplinter Why didn't your space-lord heal other deaf folks, only you ? Because there is no magic man in the sky granting random wishes to random people. You fucking dumbass.
RustyCyler 1 week ago
@dazzasplinter I asked you a question over two days ago and you didn't respond yet so I'll ask you again. Why didn't your space-lord heal other deaf folks, only you ?
RustyCyler 1 week ago
@kariinaism1
"Before Jesus, if we sinned, we had to go through "loong prayers and sacrifices""
okay, so these loooong prayers you're fond of talking about, that your god demands - how exactly does that describe a balanced god? he needs you to whoreship his ego 24/7 - why exactly?
I see, so your god sacrificed his own son to himself, so that you can please him? Do I have that right?
go through those words I just wrote slowly. think about them.
Enjoy.
TheRealityofNature 1 week ago
@TheRealityofNature I read, and reread, and thought about your words. But you can only speak rationally to someone who is willing to hear, and objectively understand. This is difficult to do, especially when it comes to Jesus. It's difficult to objectively understand a perspective that seems alien and contradictory to our beliefs. A day will soon come when we will all find out whats really true. When that day comes, I don't want to be on the side that didn't believe.
Hope you enjoy too! =)
kariinaism1 1 week ago
@kariinaism1
I read the first part of your post and assumed you were atheist!
then I read the rest of it.
Yes, it's difficult for me to understand why you insist a fact that you actually cannot validate. I really don't get it.
Theism is defined as being illogical. It's how it works. There is NO reason, NO logic, NO sense, NO evidence, NOTHING intelligent or rational at ALL. Religion is IRRATIONAL. it is defined as being so.
So yes, I don't understand why you lie to me.
TheRealityofNature 1 week ago
@TheRealityofNature "Theism is defined as being illogical" actually the dictionary says Theism (noun) 1. the belief in one God as the creator and ruler of the universe, without rejection of revelation.
Why do you lie to me?
How about you make it logical, sensible & show evidence that God doesn't exist, since you're a rational and intelligent person.
kariinaism1 1 week ago
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@kariinaism1
"Theism is defined as being illogical" actually the dictionary says.."
ah yes, the theist penchant for reading the actual words without actually thinking.
"the belief in one God as the creator.." - this is a "blind assertion" - this is what it IS.
a blind assertion is a logical fallacy - ergo, religion, which revolves around a logical fallacy of blindly asserting a god exists - is illogical.
show evidence of the non-existence of god? why? I'm not making this claim.
TheRealityofNature 1 week ago
@kariinaism1
.. and because I ran out of room - to use the socratic method to show you how nonsnsical your last point is:
how about you provide evidence that zeus doesn't exist? - see, karil, you're atheist too - I'm just one-god-more atheist than you. You claim there is no evidence for ANY other god - exactly as I do - except you make another logical fallacy - that of "special pleading" - go read about logic okay?
enjoy.
TheRealityofNature 1 week ago
@TheRealityofNature Logic: Reasoning conducted or assessed according to strict principles of validity.
What is valid? All you have is a theory. How do we know that there is not a God? (I shared with you why I believe there is a God) My belief gives me peace, joy and everything else I need to live life. Hope you find that too bud.
Enjoy =)
kariinaism1 1 week ago
@kariinaism1
ugh. the more I read, the more clear is the problem:
it's that theists like you actually have no idea what you're talking about.
1. I haven't told you my point, but you pretend you know anyhow. That's stupid.
2. you use words like "theory" without knowing what they are, or how to use them.
3. when (incorrectly) berating someone for not having evidence and claiming this means they're wrong - you being - NOTHING logical or testable to the table.
what's wrong with you?
TheRealityofNature 1 week ago
@TheRealityofNature The forum has been open for your point, you didnt need my permission to state it. If you havent said it then do tell =)
Yeah, I've only read thousands of dissertations/theses to not know what a theory is. Again I repeat, will gladly share all my information if you are willing to put away stereotypes and completely objectively listen, without accusations. Enjoy =)
kariinaism1 1 week ago
@kariinaism1
"The forum has been open for your point"....
sigh...
look. YOU have assumed my position. YOU are wrong. YOU need to ask me what it is, BEFORE you try to tell me what I think. Understand?
This comes BEFORE you say stupid things like "all you have is a theory".
(notwithstanding that a "theory" in correct usage refers to a concept so well validated, the only thing keeping it from being a "fact" is intellectual honesty.
Why not prove your god to a reputable journal?
TheRealityofNature 1 week ago
@TheRealityofNature Well...you still havent stated your position/point.
kariinaism1 1 week ago
@kariinaism1
"Well...you still havent stated your position/point"
erm.. no, I haven't. beacuse 1. you haven't asked for it, and 2. you've simply and incorrectly assumed.
I'll make it easy for you:
1. does A god exist? - maybe, it depends how you define "a god".
2. does the christian god exist - there is absolutely nothing to support this claim.
3. do NO gods exist? They might, but if they are, they're not involved in a. design, b. intervention.
ok? no more silly assertions.
TheRealityofNature 1 week ago
@TheRealityofNature In fact, I thought you were someone looking for information as my initial response included replies to questions posted about Jesus. But I see you've already been given better responses by others during the past weeks. Despite these clearer responses, demeaning language ensued. I wish you well bud, people don't always see eye to eye on everything, but this is a platform of people who really love Jesus. If you don't agree with the belief, cursing/accusing it not the way.
kariinaism1 1 week ago
@kariinaism1
"In fact, I thought you were someone looking for information ..."
Sure, I am. I want to know how and why you guys have to lie to yourselves to.
1. stop yourselves from being evil
2. make yourselves feel protected
3. validate your position in the universe.
I also want to know why you violate logic, why you ignore parts of the bible, and why you think it's moral to impose on humanity your cult.
thanks.
TheRealityofNature 1 week ago
@TheRealityofNature Let's ask an atheist friend of mine,
Me: Are you evil?
Jo: No...
Me: Why do you stop yourself from being evil?
Jo: I rather live fair.
It's not only Christians who choose to live fair/non-evilly.
Anyways, take a soc/psych class, should clear up the other q's.
Enjoy =)
kariinaism1 1 week ago
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@kariinaism1
"Let's ask an atheist friend of mine"
yep, your friend showed in the case of morality at least, your religion is utterly unnecessary. You might not claim your god is the source of morality, but theists do - your friend shows why this claim is wrong.
You are actually making MY argument. Thanks. it makes it easier when you already understand my point.
Anyways, how about publishing your proof now? Nature journal will certainly publish your robust proof of god.
enjoy!
TheRealityofNature 1 week ago
@kariinaism1
I'm very serious, you claim you can prove your god - so why not do it properly, intelligently, robustly and honestly?
If you can logically prove your god, then do it - do it properly, and submit your information to a research journal.
If not - why not? is it because you know your "proof" is not logical, intelligent, or honest?
TheRealityofNature 1 week ago
@TheRealityofNature I was just reading the banter between you and karinnaism1 and I've asked you before and I gotta ask you again, why do you even bother to address these nut-balls ? I can pretend that I'm a god-bot and reply to your comments with nearly the same wording/logic as every one of these god-bots use. You'll never, ever get through to these people. When they're at the point of singing songs about their cult leader, its over for em, they're brainwashed too much.
RustyCyler 1 week ago
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"'ll never, ever get through to these people.."
true, I'm not trying to point out their own stupidity to them. I'm pointing it out to everyone else - especially the marginal kids who are indoctrinated by cruel abusive, religious parents.
TheRealityofNature 1 week ago
@RustyCyler its funny how you'd go as far as posting messed up comments on religious tracks, i mean if you really don't care then just leave us to our "stupidity". This experience is for the individual and these "fools" you're mocking know exactly why they do what they do. So i suggest you keep your issues with us to yourself 'cause you're really just wasting your time. Just so you know, this is NOT a cult, its a lifestyle, you choose it, and you're never forced to live it.
77ultraviola77 1 week ago
I see people respond to videos like this "all I need is you lord" - and then read passages like genesis 6:7:
"And the LORD said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them."
yeah.. all we need is a god who created us, and hates us so intensely, he's willing to drown everyone, even the innocent children.
Think about it people. think.
TheRealityofNature 2 weeks ago
all i need is you LORD...
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Caramba como é bom ouvir Hillsong United, me sinto mais perto de Deus '-'
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Happy Holidays and there is no god.
Stumperx 1 month ago
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haha, ouch :/
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all i need is you Lord!, All i need is you...
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hobo1975 1 month ago
@hobo1975 why???
nineironmanagement 1 month ago
@nineironmanagement watch a see,your eyes will be opened!
hobo1975 1 month ago
I see the fish bowl boys are still at it! If they really know what Darwin said they would know that Darwin himself, stated that if science did not prove his "theory's" in 100 years, they should be dropped. As his theory's had no scientific proof behind them. Read Darwin's letter's!
But, hey these guys aren't about the truth. They are just about hate and discontent! Still pissed off that their believe system is not providing them the support they need! We still continue to pray for you! God bless
rlharrsion 1 month ago
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@rlharrsion
lol - I love it that theists have no idea what they're talking about.
kid - Darwinian evolution IS proven, but hey, don't let facts get in the way of you being stupid about it okay?
fucking theists, what the hell happened to you all, are you all willfully retarded, or are you trained in fucktardery by your church?
TheRealityofNature 1 month ago
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@rlharrsion
"But, hey these guys aren't about the truth. They are just about hate and discontent!"
yeah, we should instead subscribe to a philosophy that condones eternal torture for those who don't love us.
right?
TheRealityofNature 1 month ago
@TheRealityofNature No, I have faith. In the beginning there was God..... you may recognise the Scripture.
nineironmanagement 1 month ago
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@nineironmanagement
"No, I have faith. In the beginning there was God..... you may recognise the Scripture."
yes, I know you have faith - I said exactly that: ""I want it to be god, but I have no way of knowing, so rather than make sense, I'm going to insist as fact something I simply want to be true, without being able to intelligently validate it." - this IS faith.
lol - you're not keeping up, are you?
TheRealityofNature 1 month ago
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nineironmanagement 1 month ago
@The.RealityofNature mmm logic and reason he says! yes, the world in its perfect balanced nature came to being from a big ba ng. Intelligent life derived from a single cell organism. Man co mes from ape yet we still have apes. Carbon dating is entirely accurate. Layers of ice indicate years. Nothing travels faster than light...the list goes on. Tell me about your accurate logic and reason and then I'll tell you about mine.
nineironmanagement 1 month ago
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@nineironmanagement
"mmm logic and reason he says!"
lol - no kid, logic and reason does not.
YOUR particular barstardization of logic and reason might, but your particular barstardization of logic and reason is neither logic nor reason.
YOU don't get to choose what logic and reason is kid, any more than you get to choose what math you use. Logic and reason are defined, they're a script. You either follow it and be logical, or you don't, and you're illogical.
you're not!
TheRealityofNature 1 month ago
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@nineironmanagement
"Man co mes from ape yet we still have apes." - exactly as evolution predicts.
"nature came to being from a big ba ng" - observationally and mathematically validated.
"the world in its perfect balanced" - hardly.
"Nothing travels faster than light"- a postulate, not a law.
"Carbon dating is entirely accurate" - it is, if you know what it is.
lol - EVERY SINGLE ONE of your complaints stems from a TOTAL lack of understanding of what you're raging against.
TheRealityofNature 1 month ago
@TheRealityofNature Evolution predicts?????? how can something devised after the fact - predict? Big Bang - More like Big Bull!, Earth IS perfectly balance to support life!, Carbon dating proved inacurate on many occasions!! Perhaps you don't actually fall into this "intelligent" minority - after all!!
nineironmanagement 1 month ago
@nineironmanagement
hehe, I love it that you exemplify everything that is moronic about theists: you have no idea what you're talking about, but damn if you're gonna insist it's wrong - even though you're clueless.
Evolution was first explored by studying finches. Later, Darwin extrapolated the concept and showed it also explained the decent of man. Evolution has predicted quite a lot of things: the existence of DNA is probably the most important.
shredding continued..
TheRealityofNature 1 month ago
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@nineironmanagement
"Big Bang - More like Big Bull!, Earth IS perfectly balance to support life"
actually, only a miniscule fraction of the earth supports OUR life. We can't live more than about 5000 m high without freezing or asphixiating, we will DIE if we lie in an inch of water, and water covers MOST of the planet surface. We exist in a miniscule layer suspended between magma that would incinerate us, and space where we would simultaneously boil, freeze and asphyxiate.
TheRealityofNature 1 month ago
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@nineironmanagement
"Carbon dating proved inacurate on many occasions!!"
Only a dickhead like you thinks you can build an entire house using only a hammer - you have to use an appropriate tool. Radioactive decay works, but it has limits, carbondating is not appropriate after some well-known time interval, within that time interval, it's fine. Outside that interval, other tools are used.
Or do you think you can excavate house foundations using only a hammer?
TheRealityofNature 1 month ago
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@nineironmanagement
in summary.
you've managed to show us
1; you're ENTIRELY ignorant of what evolution is, it's history, and how it's been developed.
2. your astoundingly limited concept of how our earth ACTUALLY is, rather than the idyllic eden you want it to be. That fatal disease exists should have been your first clue.
3. You make the ultimate theist stupditiy: "waaa, carbon datin' dunt werk!".
Next you'll tell me DNA defies the 2nd law of thermodynamics. holy fuck.
TheRealityofNature 1 month ago
@TheRealityofNature Wow - great replies RoN. You have taught me a few things and I thank you for that! Your knowledge is certainly vast on the subject. Question is: Where did it all come from. How did it all begin? Regardless of whether the earth is 80 million years old or 6000 years old and if we did or did not originate from amoeba. You'll answer....from nothing. i answer....from God!
nineironmanagement 1 month ago
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@nineironmanagement
"Your knowledge is certainly vast on the subject"
wow really? I learned all that in highschool - my university education has nothing to do with evolution. Actually I leaned evolution in primary school.
Don't they teach you these things in highschool in your country? uh, stupid question really...
"Question is: Where did it all come from" my answer: I don't know. your answer is ALSO " I don't know". sorry kid. you can't lie on this one.
TheRealityofNature 1 month ago
@TheRealityofNature No really....my answer is God!!
nineironmanagement 1 month ago
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@nineironmanagement
lol - no really, your answer is "I want it to be god, but I have no way of knowing, so rather than make sense, I'm going to insist as fact something I simply want to be true, without being able to intelligently validate it."
lol - really.
TheRealityofNature 1 month ago
Wow, Marty sounds terrible here. It's still an amazing song, but why would they release this to the public?
DeathAdmin 1 month ago
@TheRealityofNature oooo you said the F word. Big Man!
nineironmanagement 1 month ago
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@nineironmanagement
"oooo you said the F word. Big Man!"
???
are you three?
TheRealityofNature 1 month ago
@TheRealityofNature Not at all mate - but your continued need to curse & swear doesn't exactly set you up for any maturity awards!! Again, it was sarcastic & again, I forgot to mark it for your attention - my sincerest apologies.
nineironmanagement 1 month ago
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@nineironmanagement
"doesn't exactly set you up for any maturity awards"
damn, you mean theists who think snakes can talk and people can walk on water think I'm being silly?
gawrsh - how will I ever live with myself knowing I'm not approved of by people who whoreship a god that murders innocent children. I must be silly or something!
TheRealityofNature 1 month ago
@TheRealityofNature nope....never said it was my proof. Read it again dummy. We all know that their is no scientific proof for or opposed. That is the joy of faith. Doesn't matter what you say buddy...your time will come & you'll have to do some serious back pedaling. In this I have considerable faith!
nineironmanagement 1 month ago
@nineironmanagement ."your time will come & you'll have to do some serious back pedaling" What does that mean? From the eyes of someone who hasn't been indoctrinated with god worshiping I find this stuff really interesting.There are so many god stories and variations of god stories its hard for me to remember em all, what did you mean by the sentence that I quoted ? What do you think is going to happen to TRON when he dies ?Describe it in detail if you could.I have questions.
RustyCyler 1 month ago
@RustyCyler In all honesty, I do not know what what will happen to RoN when he dies - The Bible clearly defines what we are to expect but since neither you nor RoN take scripture as authorative, it really doesn't matter to you. So henceforth, no long explanation is worth my time in this instence. However, should you feel compelled to research, as i know you like to do - feel free to reference the Bible, the most published book ever!!
nineironmanagement 1 month ago
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@nineironmanagement
"So henceforth, no long explanation is worth my time in this instence [sic]"
which is an illiterate way of saying " It's better for me to keep my mouth shut and be thought a fool, than to open it, and remove all doubt"
"the Bible, the most published book ever!!"
is this some kind of ad populum argument? lol - I hope not, fellah, even my 12 year old nephew could tell you why that's fucking stupid. o no! I used the "f" word again - will your head explode?
TheRealityofNature 1 month ago
@TheRealityofNature maybe your 12 year old nephew should tell you what a door knob you are mate. I'm very surprised that you didn't check my claims before you came here shooting your mouth off again . For your information: 6 billion Bibles printed followed by Quotations from Chairman Mao Zedong by Mao Zedong at 900 million.
nineironmanagement 1 month ago
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@nineironmanagement
"For your information: 6 billion Bibles printed followed by Quotations from Chairman Mao Zedong by Mao Zedong at 900 million. "
yawn...
so - can I assume you still haven't learned why "ad populum" is a fallacy?
go.
and.
read.
TheRealityofNature 1 month ago
@TheRealityofNature nothing to do with ad-populum mate!! In true RoN style.... facts are facts!!
nineironmanagement 1 month ago
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@nineironmanagement
"nothing to do with ad-populum mate!! In true RoN style.... facts are facts!!"
You bleat often about "the bible is the highest-selling book" or "the most published".
I suppose the point you're trying to make here is that, in fact, the publishers of said book, and related commercial merchandise, are really just amongst the richest in the world - very christianly having exploited everyone else's wallets.
Or you could be making an ad-populum argument.
TheRealityofNature 1 month ago
@nineironmanagement
"nope....never said it was my proof"
true, I assumed. At least most theists are honest enough to admit they use the bible as their ultimate proof, but okay, you think the bible is lies, good for you.
"In this I have considerable faith!"
yes, that's ALL you have - faith: belief without proof - you have absolutely NO defensible or intelligent reason for your faith - and THAT, my ignorant droog is why atheism is more honest and more intelligent.
enjoy!
TheRealityofNature 1 month ago
@TheRealityofNature " you think the bible is lies, good for you." Nope!! Never said that either!! Ron.... READ the posts before replying - but good effort in using a false declaration to set-up another "Mine is better than yours" statement. Well done
nineironmanagement 1 month ago
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@nineironmanagement
"" you think the bible is lies, good for you." Nope!! Never said that either!"
oh yes yes, my honest mistake.
So you don't think the bible is truth, and you don't think it lies.
you're entirely clueless aren't you?
setting "mine is better than yours"? not at all, setting up a demonstration of the fact you have no idea what you think - and you played the part of confused theist wonderfully - well done.
Now shush, & go back to playing with your blocks.
TheRealityofNature 1 month ago
@TheRealityofNature Yes...you are making these "honest" mistakes pretty often these days. It gives away your attempts at trying to manipulate the conversation. Let's just clarify. I put all my trust in the Bible as do millions of others. You need to accept this RIM....You and your minority club of faithless buddies.
nineironmanagement 1 month ago
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@nineironmanagement
"Yes...you are making these "honest" mistakes pretty often these days"
indeed, you might even have noticed you'd been trapped by my "mistakes".
Tell you what, how about you tell us clearly and specifically.
In your opinion, is there ANYTHING in the bible, even one thing, that you don't take as verbatim fact?
"You and your minority club of faithless" which also correlates with the minority club of the well-educated - at least, according to Gallup polls.
TheRealityofNature 1 month ago
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@TheRealityofNature "which also correlates with the minority club of the well-educated" - mine is better than yours again, eh? Grow up RoN! These schoolyard games are boring!!
nineironmanagement 1 month ago
dunno why , but everytime i listen to the this song i cry
it's not cause i wanna cry, simply fall
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