Has history been tampered with? Troy or Rome or Constantinople fell to the First Crusade 1195!

[map0915]

This seems like a bunch of bullshit. Constantinople was the name of the city before it was dubbed Istanbul. I don't think there is a world-wide conspiracy of lies told by our historians.

[stemcellfilms]

look I try to believe a lot, but this is just not true. I'm not the sort to say stuff like that believe me, I'm reptillian conspiracy theorists. I say hillary clinton is the whore of bablyon, but come on. explain to me how this is true, I'd be down... what about jesus, are you saying they took a roman in 1053 and applied multiple ancient myth to him?

[summercures2]

@stemcellfilms: The whole book,History: Fiction or Science, is 600 pages long (and that is only the first book in the whole chronology!). And you're asking the uploader of this video to fully explain the content of these videos in just a few paragraphs? Buy the book if you need to be convinced. I've read a lot of the book myself and can totally vouch that it is totally scientific and rigorous. The author uses mathematics, astronomy, artefacts, & historical records to correct consensual history.

[saraliciousgirl]

@summercures2 DO u know anywhere i can download it or sthg??

[summercures2]

@saraliciousgirl: Yes, you can absolutely read this whole book for free online. 1) Go to the Google search engine. 2) On the left hand side of the page, there is a button that says "more." Click on it. Then click on "books." 3) Next, type in "History: Fiction or Science" in the search bar. This will bring up several results. The third result down on my computer brings me straight to the book where u can start reading it right away. Make sure to read Chronology 1 of the book first.

[verynicelookingguy27]

@summercures2 I agree that mediveal events do seem to repeat themselves more than our modern events. However it's hard to believe there was no written history prior to the 10th century. There has to be a reason why we call it the 10th century...

[mithec]

Critics of the New Chronology often mention that biographies of certain rulers, like Napoleon and Hitler (both dictators) are quite similar, so by applying the method of Morozov and Fomenko we should consider them to be the same person and ultimately make a senseless statement that the first 20 years of the 19th century are simply the years thirties and forties of the 20th century.

[3rdEYEbeHolder]

Are You familiar with Eric Jon Phelps and his research on the Jesuits? The reality that Jesuits have put an hypnosis on our sense of history is no surprise to me at all.

visit:

 v a t i c a n a s s a s s i n s . o r g

Research the "Black Pope" Jesuit General of the military order of the Society of Jesus.

[messiahbenlevi]

Yes Hitler, Adolf Hitler is Haman They tried to kill the Jews and steal their Gold. They both died and had ten men hanged soon after them. JFK is Abraham Lincoln they were both assassinated one was elected to congress in 1860 the other 1960 and they were both replaced by a Johnson. They are one?

[irobot100wat]

fascinating creative

[ThomasAlexanderMcCay]

Also, if constantinople was the holy land, then what are crusader castles like krak de chevaliers doing in Syria and Palestine? Obviously they were built by Jesuits creating a false history. Duh.

P.S. mind giving me a link to a crusader map that identifies constantinople/istanbul as jerusalem thanks.

[mithec]

only 1 (one)crusade in 1196 to jer=rome=const=istanbul. no original crusade map with Jeru in existance. IMHO: google>books>Fomenko; look at TOC then comment

[verynicelookingguy27]

@ThomasAlexanderMcCay Possibly Ottoman castles.

[ThomasAlexanderMcCay]

It's fun disproving crackpots

from the vid: "crusaders did not wait 1000 years to puunish the tormentors of Jesus" proves this guy is running on a bias.

[Telpy]

What the hell is this?

Will someone tell the poster to take some college courses in history.

[gwyfyn]

Constantinople fell to a crusade, but the Fourth one, not the First. And that's just the first mistake...I just don't know how people can believe the craziest stuff...

[mithec]

for the last 400 years generations of historians have been busy weaving the fine fabric of lies. The design and execution are fabulous, just as perfect lie should be. Naturally, marco confirms ghengis , Alexander confirms Ptolemy, everything rimes nicely, but fine fabric simply does not hold water, it is about as scientific as voodoo 'doctors', it`s well paid exercise of wishfull thinking with real events polished into oblivion.

[mithec]

IMHO: google>books>Fomenko; look at TOC then comment

[blackjamm]

Don't delete comments that disagrees with you or, in my case, COMPLETELY DISPROVE YOU. Why don't you just abandon the stupid theories, take down the video, tell Fomenko to shut it and withdraw the book, say sorry to the publishers, and read a real book on history? These are all good suggestions.

[mithec]

right. and many many others. in brand new copies of 15-18 cy, ALL originals UNFORTUNATELY lost(?).

[hagiospaulos]

...also Iranius, Turtullian, Justin Martyr, Ignatius, Chysostom etc. all these writer are no later than 300 A.D. and they ALL speak of the historical accounts of Yeshua (Jesus), and his birth etc. You may not capitulate, but this man is simply in dismal ignorance.

[AarmOZ]

Also, the Bible refers to the Christ birth (according to Luke) at the time Cesear Agustus rained. We know that after the Roman Civil War after the assassination of Julius Cesear that Ovctavis took the throne a few short years before A.D. 1.

[hagiospaulos]

I definitely know one thing he's wrong on. Jesus birth. And if he's wrong on that, what exactly is this guy's agenda? I read Greek and Hebrew fluently, and have personally read many greek manuscripts dated from 60 A.D. (Ephraimi 2 and bodmer mss. 1&2) Furthermore, Flavius Josephus is a famous historian dated in these early times,...

[egreydesign1]

Anatoly Fomenko

"Determined to get to the bear historical truth at any cost"

Does that include the cost of his book???

[horskart]

zzzzzzzzzz!

The Soviets created fictional history, the Nazi's created fictional history, who does the author work for? Perhaps the eminent Mathematician should work more on addition rather than pretending to be a historian.

[mithec]

too bad. the word conspiracy is not a part the author`s vocabulary: : go to google or to amazon>to `more`> to `book search`>type keyword `fomenko`, read TOC or the whole book free of charge.

[mithec]

Occam razor cuts: Sapiens sapiens species <=150000 years old, civilization (state+army+ideology+writing) goes only as far back as AD 800, very scarce information from 8-10 cy AD events, most historical events took place in 10-15th cy AD. Jesus 1153-1186 AD. Old Testament compiled in 12-16 cy AD, AFTER New One, it renders events of that period. All methods of dating of artefacts, including c14 are non-exact and contradictory, there are no written ORIGINALS dateble earlier than the XI century.

[dannynoname]

i'm sorry, that wasn't my comment but unforunatley you're still an ill informed idiot. written history go back well before 800 CE (circa 5000 BCE).

most historical events took place between the 10th and 15th century, it seems you may actually be mentally defficient.

[dannynoname]

i don't know how you would have a discrepancy of over 1000 years between the supposed birth of Jesus and your statement regarding the year of his birth. it's rather simple to keep track of how many years have gone by when you set up a new calendar.

all dating methods are not 100% accurate but they are considerably more precise than what you have stated.

and yes, there are texts from before the 11th century, well before.

[dannynoname]

This is all bull shit, u dont know anything. i have studied classics.

[fredgred]

this is why I am not christian

[patbrien]

So Jesuits recreated the basic story of Jesus, their God, into pretend 'ancient' gods who came before Him, therefore leaving themselves wide open to accusations of having stolen their beliefs from those exact same 'older' beliefs...

WHY THE HELL WOULD THEY DO THAT?!

[lngnails]

Bshit just because apocalypse resemblance with astronomical signs doesn't prove that it was written in 14th century.

[ZOUAVE45]

I was directing my ire against the chap who posted this nonsense. Not against you sir. I agree with you. By the way, just finished reading "Constantinople - The Last Great Siege by Robert Crowley" (Faber UK). Would strongly recommend.

[fourganger88]

What's up with the narrator? He sounds like a computer!

This is all a load of rubbish. Carbon dating and archaeology tells us that Troy was an actual city and was destroyed long before the rise of the Roman Empire.

[mithec]

Radio-carbon method: This much touted method produces reliable dating of objects of organic origin with exactitude of plus minus 1500 years, therefore it is too crude for dating of historical events in the 3000 years timeframe! Initial calibration of this method was made basis artefacts of ancient Egypt already dated by historians on consensual chronology scale -- vicious circle that.Troy is a fraud signed Herr Schlieman.

[fourganger88]

The most I've ever seen carbon dating off by is 700 years - this is supported by Wikipedia, which you seem to love so much.

[ZOUAVE45]

Oh Sweet Jesus. Will somebody please stop these pea-brained, moronic, happy-clappy, incestuous American fuckwits from posting gibberish like this.

[fourganger88]

If that's directed at me, it just makes you look like a idiot, given that I'm not American at all.

[ZOUAVE45]

People like you frighten me. Frighten me in the same way that Osama undoubtedly frightens you. Please join a library and give you poor undernourished brain an education.

[fourganger88]

Any library will provide hundreds of books which prove my point. And at least my undernourished brain can actually provide an argument- you just insulted me and gave no reason. Learn some rhetoric.

[jetlenoir]

Word to the wise: Read the book before you defend yourselves against it. Numbers don't lie. People do.

[mithec]

The date of the horoscope contained in Apocalypse is 1 October 1486, which ideally corresponds to the expected mediaeval date of the Judgement Day in the year 7000 since Adam or 1492 a.d.. The Apocalypse was most likely written shortly thereafter but several years before what the entire mediaeval Christian world perceived as the impending Judgement Day in the year 7.000 since Adam, or 1492 a.d. Mortal fear of this terrifying event is vividly reflected in the Apocalypse.

[Grecias]

poh you Western people believe everything they tell you. This is only American propaganda. FOK AMERIKA AND THE REST. ZHTO HELLAS

[jetlenoir]

Anatoly Fomenko is russian, idiot.

[Dukesv]

It is one of the most stupid thoughts one could do...

i heard a lot of conspiracy theories nad everything but this is damn stupid...

it only adds credibility to the bloody crusaders and spreads light over their otherwise dark civilisation full of "holy courts" etc..

[Sellos23]

dont care this stuff is verry good

[vince1987]

and oh, i dont like to listen to the word etc etc etc. its kinda like not proper to say if there more.

[vince1987]

uhm, the things that are written on the Last Book of the Bible was forseen by John and not observed in 1488 or something! it was forseen not observed..

[mithec]

check with wiki or with be that illiad, etc..were recorded centuries after conviniently blind and illiterate homer died, moreover when homer composed his `formulas`the greek alphabet was not yet invented. better yet: go to google>to `more`> to `book search`>type keyword `fomenko`, read TOC or the whole book free of charge.

[MIT1369]

wiki as a source of "serious documentaion"??? That's totally laughable. anyone can post anything to any subject and the gullible fools out there will accept it as FACT.

[morbidblade]

i hate how this guy say the word "planet"

[mithec]

homer`s poems(1 400 000 words) were recorded 700 years after the so great but very illiterate homer sung them. note: oral transmission of such volume over such period of time is IMPOSSIBLE.

[Caliburnis]

So the Native Americans never existed, huh?

[nixter888]

you are imposible !!!greeks knew how to write 40.000years b.c orpheas hermes trismegistos!do not belive the phoenician myth!!!!!greeks gave the grammata to the world!!!!!!!!!!!!!any phoencian texts with the greek letters?NO!!! NOT EVEN ONE!!!!!!WHY ?...BECAUSE NEVER EXISTED!!!!!!!!

[dragos98]

History might have been fixed and embelished by the church, by come on, stuff like "the First Crusade is the same thing as the War of Troy"... that's just retarded.

[mithec]

sir isaac newton was the first one to doubt classical history..chronology is a close relation of maths..clerical fingerprints are all over mutilated body of chronos..closer look reveals countless inconsistencies and contradictions..

[nixter888]

GOOD TRY!!!!!

[isatay]

When did mathematicians start to research history?

[mithec]

check this heresy just in case: go to google>to `more`> to `book search`>type keyword `fomenko`, read TOC or the whole book for this matter and free of charge.

[codylsu]

this guy is off his rocker. this guy must have been fed lsd as a baby. and probably still eats it daily.

[Mu5HROoM]

nice commercial fucker

[mithec]

not all history, but one before the 16th cy.

[JasonVonSchultz]

What a crock of shyte. All history is fake . . . Get real morons.

[Fazedor]

"According to THE LATEST RESEARCH CONDUCTED BY ONE OF THE WORLD'S LEADING MATHEMATICIANS". Wow, that's so accurate and reliable!

All History is fake. How? Order the answer in www.amazon.com.

[CofCGuy]

The internet is a hoax. Its only a bunch of 1s and 0s. George Washington was actually founder of the Six Flags chain of theme parks. We like his roller coasters and funnel cakes and so we call him "President."  Wake up people! History is a lie.