XETV San Diego FOX6 Sign-on 2007.08.20

[lostalex77]

that is this? Anthem Idol?? America wins.

[BobWXXI]

Dual national anthems are common for a lot of border stations. All five full-power Buffalo TV channels and all seven in Detroit sign on with back-to-back plays of the Star Spangled Banner and O Canada. (They used to sign off the same way--but they don't sign off at all any more, just run the anthems at 5 every morning to mark the start of the day.).

[JonLeibow]

@bloggerrick It was flying forward when they first showed it. They showed the Mexican flag both forward and backward, too.

[CapPicard]

I can receive the CBC 990AM from Winnipeg, Manitoba in central Kansas.

[intoodeep7106]

- Cont'd

So many of them, especially now in the digital age, respond by setting up large towers with outdoor antennas that can catch signals from border American local stations. This is true for not only Windsor but the Golden Horseshoe up to Oshawa, such as that Buffalo stations could be considered semi-local in Mississauga.

I got way off-topic so I'll end there.

[intoodeep7106]

-Cont'd

What happened instead, is that Industry Canada would buy rights to certain American TV programs to air them simultaneously with the American network airing them the same nights. During commercial breaks, they "substitute" the commercials that the respective American network has scheduled for commercials targeted at Canadian audiences. Hence, the simsub rule. Many Candians don't like the rule because, for example, the Super Bowl commercials won't be seen if they have cable/sat.

-Cont'd

[intoodeep7106]

-- Cont'd

For example: Montreal is within reach of many Burlington, Vermont stations but many have trouble getting the ABC and FOX stations. Theoretically, a station could be started if there were no laws prohibiting it that would essentially be affiliate of an American network and make it easier for folks in urban areas to get programs over the air.

- Cont'd

[intoodeep7106]

@sygo7g I think Art7220's question was concerning why the Canadian stations did not (I'm not so sure of it myself) affiliate directly with American over-the-air networks. One has to point to the direction of CanCon rules and simsubbing for the answers. If not for them, I think many Canadian OTA stations in major urban areas would not resisted the temptation to affiliate.

-- Cont'd

[Art7220]

@intoodeep7106 Why don't Canadian stations do this?

[tchock]

hell yeah. i used to watch this when i was either up fucking late, or had to start my day too fucking early

[schs1977]

If the station is licensed to Mexico, why is it affiliated with a US TV network?

[intoodeep7106]

@schs1977

Because Mexican television companies, back then, knew it was good business to do business with US TV networks. It's a matter of dollars and cents. Besides, the main Mexican TV networks already have their stations in place.

[schs1977]

@intoodeep7106 - Thanks for the info. I learned something today!!!

[richartrod]

@intoodeep7106 That's true. However, that also means that XETV is vulnerable to having its US network affiliations stripped at any time in favor of a US channel in San Diego, as happened with its losing ABC in 1972 and Fox in 2008. It originally had those network affiliations because no other San Diego channel existed at those times to carry them. Betwen 1972 and 1986 XETV was an independent, and was prepared to go indie again if it didn't get The CW.

[kcthatsawinner]

Does XHDTV (My 13/49) also sign on with the Mexican and U.S. anthems? I recall that XHDTV was a UPN affiliate, and it switched to MyNet when KSWB 5/69 became San Diego the CW 5. The only other UPN stations to sign off (in my thoughts) were WCGV Milwaukee, WUPL New Orleans and KTXA Fort Worth/Dallas. Maybe you can upload the XHDTV sign off for us?

[SilentDrifter03]

@kcthatsawinner The sign off for the XHDTV channel is the same exact one as this one only different information about antenna, frequency power, and its located at a different mountain in Mexico.

[rendezvous65]

XHDTV is now at CH. 36.13 for DTV. XHDTV is going HD according to Time Warner Cable.

[rendezvous65]

@rendezvous65 Now XHDTV has a digital signal on RF 47 out of Cerro Bola, with the assigned channel number being 49.1. This new signal is HD as well, but don't count on cable carrying it anytime soon. 

[richartrod]

XETV first went on the air in 1953 as Tijuana's first TV station and at the same time the second station to serve San Diego. It originally aired programs in both English and Spanish, but mostly English because the San Diego audience at the time was much larger, and more profitable, than TJ's. Today TJ is almost twice as large as San Diego, and XETV is enjoyed on both sides of the border because of the large English-speaking population in Tijuana.

[Spock2]

Best Sign-on I've ever Seen.

[richartrod]

Mexican law requires radio and TV stations to play its national anthem at sign-on and sign-off, traditionally midnight and 6am. The anthem of a guest country is immediately played afterward at events where that country's dignitaries are present. So the bilingual sign-on is most appropriate, and nicely done too. It might be the only San Diego area channel left that still plays the U.S. national anthem (sad). Being a 24-hr channel, XETV airs this at either 5am Mon-Sat or 6am Sunday.

[MrAccordionPimp]

I remember hearing this every morning as I got ready for Work listening to XETRA 91 X

Now I am in NORTHERN INDIANA and enjoy Canadian Border Blasters at night such as Toronto's AM 740

[FairBolFL]

Must be interesting to be able to recieve Mexican TV and radio stations in Aan Diego...

[devulboy1]

*San Diego (finger slip), though you mix the term (Santa) Ana (heim) in O.C. with a large Hispanic population. XETV can be received over the air (analog) before the conversion to digital in parts of L.A. & the Inland Empire. One of the few U.S. based stations based in Mexico, note the bilingual sign-on/off bumpers under the requirement of the Mexican government and the dual national anthem idea is great to symbolize the fraternal union of 2countries, despite political problems of the border.+

[MrAccordionPimp]

@FairBolFL

Tijuana is minutes away from San Diego

[rendezvous65]

XETV and XHDTV are participating in the San Diego DTV test at 6:58 PM even though XHDTV has no digital signal up yet. We all know that XHDTV has chosen CH. 47 for their OTA digital signal. XETV and XHDTV will keep their analogs up past 2.17.09.

[jfs1988]

radio stations also at midnight.

[rendezvous65]

I've seen the new Sign on. It's roughly the same. They changed the announcement and the only real change is the San Diego 6 logo. Other than that it's virtually the same.

[jfs1988]

Well it looks like they didn't won. I will miss you Fox 6 XETV.

[rendezvous65]

Also CBET-DT may not sign on until 2012 when Canada goes all Digital. Maybe they will sign on earlier but they may wait until they do the switch.

[jerrymouse16]

Can You Upload The New Sign-On?

[rendezvous65]

It's probably identical to this one but with the San Diego 6 logo.

[rendezvous65]

I guess they don't sign on and off like they used to. Maybe on the weekends. If they did do a sign-on/off it would be the same with their new logo.

[rendezvous65]

CBET-DT uses UHF 35. Thats if they get it on the air. They may have to move it though since another LP repeater uses UHF 34. Hope this helps.

[Dan1988A]

@kstar8706: Thanks for that. I also think that the Mexican national anthem is required for radio as well, as well as a programme called "La Hora Nacional" on Sundays, IIRC (and if my copy of the WRTH is right).

[Dan1988A]

@sygo7g: I would think that CBET has an HD signal by now - after all, Detroit is just a stone's throw away and I would assume that a lot of Detroit people watch CBC Television through CBET. After all, most of the major metro areas - Toronto, Montréal, Ottawa, and Vancouver, for example - already have HD signals by now. Same with CTV and Global, and maybe even the French-language stations as well. (Hmm, could TVA attract an audience in Detroit?)

[rendezvous65]

CBET's digital channel hasn't yet signed on yet. They have it allocated but it might not be until Canada goes digital.

[rendezvous65]

Now it won't be an independent station. They will be the CW affiliate. They will broadcast CW in HD but no plans for HD news. All the usual XETV shows will be shown. They will just add CW. Don't worry sygo7g. KUSI will be the indie station in San Diego.

[rendezvous65]

This affiliation switch just happened yesterday night. Still CW will damage their ratings. KSWB is probably laughing their way to the bank. Fox is one of the most lucrative networks an affiliate can get. Top rated shows and great advertising for them.

[rendezvous65]

I should say they are switching to CW.

[kargaroc386]

u mean they ARE the CW

[rendezvous65]

Yes they are the CW for primetime programming. Everything else is still XETV including the comedy lineup.

[rendezvous65]

The good news is that all the XETV programming will stay on San Diego 6 except the fox primetime. That will go to KSWB. So I guess you will see those simpsons and that 70s show reruns. As for primetime will probably be some reruns of some other show. Don't know if they will pick up any older seasons of fox shows.

[rendezvous65]

They are confirming those hours of reruns like the simpsons etc. So if you watch those shows during those hours on Fox 6 then you will be satisfied.

[rendezvous65]

Say hello to the San Diego 6. Maybe they will fight the affiliation switch but they are going independent. If the CW continues to do so poorly in ratings then the CW will probably go bye-bye after this season.

[rendezvous65]

I should say after this upcoming station.

[rendezvous65]

say hello to the CW.

[rendezvous65]

One more thing. Arthel Neville will be a morning news anchor for FOX 5 San Diego. Both morning and news at 10 will all be in HD.

[rendezvous65]

In the meantime FOX5 will be broadcasting news in HD. Kathleen Bade will be anchoring the 10PM news with another anchor that hasn't been hiring yet. There are hiring ads in Craigslist and on the San Diego CW website. Mainly for news broadcasts. KUSI has thought about getting CW. Maybe XETV could get CW as a compromise. Who knows.

[dnajera28]

Does anyone think Entravision might move univision from KBNT 17 to XETV.

[ABCPUSA]

Viva Mexico! Abaixo os EUA! MEXICO E AMERICA LATINA PARA SIEMPRE!!!

[Colortinis]

@Dan1988A: I heard something about that contract. Maybe Fox will buy their way out of it.

[Dan1988A]

@Colortinis: You'd think Rupert Murdoch would try that with the Azcarragas? That would be some huge feat there.

[samacal]

XETV is going to fight the switch in court. They say they have an agreement with Fox through 2010 and they were never contacted about losing the affiliation.

[Dan1988A]

@Colortinis and samacal: I would assume that XETV would fight it. After all, it has been a FOX affiliate from the very beginning. Also, it is owned by the same people that launched the TV station in the first place - the Azcarraga family, who also controls Televisa and some (if not all) of Univision's programming. The Azcarragas are very wealthy and they would fight it to the bitter end.

[Colortinis]

Get the XETV/Fox airchecks while they're hot. XETV will lose its Fox affiliation come August.

[tchock]

i miss this

[Colortinis]

¿XETV paso a la fase digital?

Is XETV going digital?

[tvstuff2]

no because it is licensed in the country of mexico and does not have to comply with the FCC mandate

[TimothyOnline]

XETV has already gone digital; it transmits on channel 23.

To answer your question, XETV is NOT required to shut down its analog transmitters in February of 2009, as it is licensed in Mexico, not the United States.

[Dan1988A]

@Colortinis: The station would have to go digital anyway, because it is carrying US network programming. The people involved with the station on the US side of the border would've known about the FCC regulations, and thus, would convert to digital around the same time as the other San Diego stations. I know since this might be the case with Canadian stations (CBC/Radio-Canada and CTV, among others, already have digital signals and are converting to all-digital).

[ercjncpr]

Yeah before all the anti-illegals go crazy, XETV IS a MEXICAN station brodcasting to the USA. Yes that has been legal for over 70 years. Goes back to the radio days of the 1930s

[FranciscoCojuanco]

Kinda funny, though - FOX, the vaunted station of Bill O' Reilly, actually had Mexican affiliates! Of course, I don't blame them - there is no racism in cold hard cash.

[rendezvous65]

KUSI would have actually have been a Fox affiliate if Sam Zell stepped in. KUSI would have had to rework their all news lineup for Fox but thats ok. KSWB has been ironing out it's bugs. For Fox programming they seem to be fine. XHRIO is the only Mexican Fox affiliate to exist. Although XHRIO's Digital signal is on KVNO. However San Diego has a Mexican Mynetwork station which is also owned by Fox's parent company News Corp.

[rendezvous65]

I should say that XHDTV is owned by Televisora Alco but Entravision manages it. Too bad they don't have a digital signal. If Mynetwork had some good HD shows it could get a cable/DBS/U-verse carriage.

[rendezvous65]

XHDTV is getting a digital signal on UHF 47. They will co-channel with KAZA-DT in LA. XHDTV is in Cerro Bola while KAZA-DT is mounted on Mt. Wilson. Supposedly Mexico has had 47 as an allocation. They also might move some Mexican stations to a lower channel number since 52-69 is being blocked off for TV use in the US after 2.17.09. There will be more info as the time goes on.

[rendezvous65]

If XHDTV-DT is at 1,000kw ERP then it will be able to interfere with KAZA-DT despite it's location. Cerro Bola is 18 to 20 miles away from Tijuana. Cerro Bola has a few radio stations. This new station if it runs at 1,000 kw ERP will have much, much better reception than their analog station.

[rendezvous65]

The interference is mostly in southern parts of temecula. Some of those areas have hills that block Mt. Wilson for some reason.

[eyeh8cbs]

FOX es MIERDA!

[sanantonionewsman]

In english: FOX is EXCREMENT!

[hkfreak]

FOX no es trabaja para tu.

[polyiguana]

Hence the "X" in the call signs.

[zekepig]

isn't that because it's really in Mexico?

[newschannel]

Yes, it is licensed by the Mexican broadcast authorities, so they are required to play the Mexican National Anthem.

Also, the station's callsign is XETV. Any stations with callsigns that begins with an "X" (or any stations with 5-letter callsigns) are licensed to Mexico.

[Hampstead343]

Television stations licensed in Mexico are required to play the Mexican National Anthem only if they air English language programming, which is XETV's case.

[Dan1988A]

@Hampstead343: Vraiment? I always thought that regardless of whether the station was broadcasting programming in English or Spanish, the Mexican anthem had to played anyway.

[kstar8706]

@Dan1988A: That is true. The Mexican national anthem is played on all TV stations regardless of what language they broadcast in. I believe it is also played on radio stations.

[FranciscoCojuanco]

That's right - I believe some Mexican YouTubers had posted some videos of Mexican stations signing off, with the "Grito" and all...

[FranciscoCojuanco]

No, all TV stations in Mexico play the Mexican National Anthem.

[radamail]

A very unique TV station sign on & I always wondered how XETV handled that. Thanks for posting this.