@kanguesso He looks like he has long enough legs that he could reach for a hook with that leg rather then continue over the shoulder for the omoplata. Or i suppose you could just put your knee down and grab the far side shoulder before he turtles up.
@Jahfari1 I think the follow up move he gives is low percentage for most people, but if you get on top it would be nice the sweep looks good for what might be an almost definite pass. I never sweep and take crazy shit, pass, get mount and choke.
@Jahfari1 hmm you have a point but if he lets go of the trapped right arm and pulls the left arm out of the way at 1.24, he could just switch his hips and end up in side mount, theres alot to play with. but thats all theory lol.
For the life of me, I can't get this damn sweep to work. I may be late with it, because I just get a guy dropping his hips and there is no way he's going over. I can get thios just fine with my non wrapped leg going into a half guard but not if I have it to the outside leg like that. Any tips?
@RightWingCon81 Yea man; i was having the same issue, but after trying it several times. I found that its more of a timing move. What worked for me, is to keep the grips tight, as he comes around I keep a straight/stiff sweeping leg. Use this momentum of his pass to execute the sweep. Andre Galvao is coming to our academy in a couple of weeks. I will ask him about this move.
The bottom line is it starts off as a Spider Guard then changes so that you bait your opponent into thinking he can pass which in turn allows for you to sweep them. Calling this a Spider Guard Variation sweep would make most sense to me. You guys are argueing saying how this isnt a spider guard.....but when you grab onto you opponents sleeves and place ur feet on his biceps or under his arm pits....its considered "Spider Like". You guys are argueing over something so stupid and irrelevant.
This looks like it would be GREAT from the weaving guard pass of the half guard. I do something similar where you get to your knees and roll for umoplata (from weaving guard pass or shin guard) I'll try this, looks easier.
The spider guard comprises a number of OPEN GUARD varitions, all of which involve controlling the opponents arms while using the soles of the feet to control the opponent at the biceps, hips, thighs or a combination of them. It is most effective when the sleeves of the opponent can be grabbed, for instance if the opponent is wearing a gi. The spider guard can be used for sweeps and to set up joint locks or chokeholds.
and for the record.. if you wanna get REALLY technical with it... it's not a guard sweep at all.. andre specifically lets the guy pass before he pulls the sweep. once the guy on top clears into the outside of the legs, they're not in guard anymore...
BUT... it's a sweep setup from the spider/open guard position.
btw. training for me involves discussing techniques. if im wrong, i own up to it. i'll admit i didnt ever think of spider as "open", but thats how i how i learned it as
omg you just made yourself look stupid, it's a sweep, the guy never passed, no control... do you really train or are you just lying...
so you say it's not a sweep, but he sweeps him??? you know sweeps only comes from guard... you don't sweep from being in mount or side control, you don't get awarded two points doing that.
listen very carefully to what ander says at 43 secs. "passe".. my portuguese aint that great but that evidentl;y that means pass. from what andre said to me, "i let him pass, then i sweep"
there's no points being awarded for a pass because he wouldnt be able to pin him down for 3 seconds. the pass is a distraction so for the guy underneath to have the leverage to sweep.
when did i say it's not a sweep?!?!
i said it's not a sweep from guard since when the sweep happens, hes not in guard
Dude, when the other guy "passes", Galvao still has control of his left arm with his own leg between him and the other guy. For the other guy to be passed he would need to clear both of his arms, and Galvao's LEGS. In this case, Galvao let him pass to the side however he still has his right leg in play, trapping his opponents left arm.
The spider guard comprises a number of positions all of which involve controlling the opponents arms while using the soles of the feet to control the opponent at the biceps, hips, thighs or a combination of them. It is most effective when the sleeves of the opponent can be grabbed, for instance if the opponent is wearing a gi. The spider guard can be used for sweeps and to set up joint locks or chokeholds.
Sorry that I train with a World Champ, Pan Am Champ, US Open Champ, ADCC vet, Brazilian National Champ and so on... BTW in a way you're actually correct, but you said it's hip and bicep control, while that is true, there are other aspects of spider guard, soles on bicep, shin on biceps, and so on...
@JawBreakerJimmy Awesome move, Galvao is the man. What if instead of waiting for the opponent to pass, Galvao actively got on his shoulder blades and inverted his guard? Would that basically be the same move? Just as effective?
umm you do know that anything where the legs are open is considered open guard. therefore spider is a part of open guard. and besides, spider has either the shins or foot inside their bicep
but you said "not open guard" it clearly is open. ask him, like it's a big deal... he'll tell you it's open guard. instead of trying to be "specific" why don't you just watch and train instead of trying to correct what doesn't need to be corrected
BTW x guard is Open guard, theres no point in x guard where your legs are wrapped around the opponents leg... they are both UNDER the legs, it's open guard...
still spider guard is OPEN guard. you know i never once said it isnt spider, i want to be basic when naming guards, open, closed, and half... thats all there is really. everything else is a variation of those three. so instead of getting the most current term of it, because back in the 80's it wasn't called spider, why don't you just train instead of making a big deal... i bet you JUST started training.
Beautiful sweep, I show the pass as a counter from the open guard albeit with the right foot in a different pos'n but will definitely experiment with this tonight in class!
So sick..
TeslaSMTM 10 months ago
I am wondering if it is possible to take your opponent's back after you perform the sweep instead of going of an omoplata.
kanguesso 10 months ago
@kanguesso He looks like he has long enough legs that he could reach for a hook with that leg rather then continue over the shoulder for the omoplata. Or i suppose you could just put your knee down and grab the far side shoulder before he turtles up.
WhatUpMyNinja 7 months ago
@WhatUpMyNinja Thanks, that's what i thought.
kanguesso 7 months ago
wow. Right into an omaplata.
PsychoReaper49 11 months ago
sick gambit sweep, but takes a shitload of training
Lejendary2 11 months ago
One of the best bjj black belts
fernandoeses 1 year ago
Grande, guarda aranha.Minha guarda preferida.
vagkochi2007 1 year ago
galvao always looks huge. anyone know how tall he is? and is he a mid weight
poopalover 1 year ago
all this just to give the guy deep half guard...mabye get a omoplata out of it. Psshhh no thank you
Jahfari1 1 year ago
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@Jahfari1 I think the follow up move he gives is low percentage for most people, but if you get on top it would be nice the sweep looks good for what might be an almost definite pass. I never sweep and take crazy shit, pass, get mount and choke.
RightWingCon81 1 year ago
@Jahfari1 hmm you have a point but if he lets go of the trapped right arm and pulls the left arm out of the way at 1.24, he could just switch his hips and end up in side mount, theres alot to play with. but thats all theory lol.
ShinjiIkariFTW 10 months ago
For the life of me, I can't get this damn sweep to work. I may be late with it, because I just get a guy dropping his hips and there is no way he's going over. I can get thios just fine with my non wrapped leg going into a half guard but not if I have it to the outside leg like that. Any tips?
RightWingCon81 1 year ago
@RightWingCon81 Yea man; i was having the same issue, but after trying it several times. I found that its more of a timing move. What worked for me, is to keep the grips tight, as he comes around I keep a straight/stiff sweeping leg. Use this momentum of his pass to execute the sweep. Andre Galvao is coming to our academy in a couple of weeks. I will ask him about this move.
Vazquez71 1 year ago
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@Vazquez71 cool man, please keep me posted on any advise he gives.
RightWingCon81 1 year ago
Badass
HywelEd 1 year ago
andre came to my gym not to long ago, he's a stand up dude and very funny aswell.
MaliceonFyre 1 year ago
andre galvao tem voz parecida com o a do danilo gentili do cqc
larrybagina 1 year ago
remeber to keep the hands near you knees otherwise the sweep is useless .
daz45 2 years ago
boa de mais!valeu ossss
brewkwe 2 years ago
The bottom line is it starts off as a Spider Guard then changes so that you bait your opponent into thinking he can pass which in turn allows for you to sweep them. Calling this a Spider Guard Variation sweep would make most sense to me. You guys are argueing saying how this isnt a spider guard.....but when you grab onto you opponents sleeves and place ur feet on his biceps or under his arm pits....its considered "Spider Like". You guys are argueing over something so stupid and irrelevant.
dimi887 2 years ago
This looks like it would be GREAT from the weaving guard pass of the half guard. I do something similar where you get to your knees and roll for umoplata (from weaving guard pass or shin guard) I'll try this, looks easier.
RightWingCon81 2 years ago
Posicao muito boa , atual ...
E os malucos ae embaixo tao discutindo a semanas se e' Guarda Aranha ou Guarda Aberta !!!!! Porrra !
Lucianovieira2712 2 years ago
awesome, my instructor showed this a while ago as a rolling omoplata
iattackenemy 3 years ago
I love it when you get swept in this move.
The thought process:
"Im passing, im passing!...oh wait...nope"
TrumpetDan714 3 years ago
on the mat definition:
The spider guard comprises a number of OPEN GUARD varitions, all of which involve controlling the opponents arms while using the soles of the feet to control the opponent at the biceps, hips, thighs or a combination of them. It is most effective when the sleeves of the opponent can be grabbed, for instance if the opponent is wearing a gi. The spider guard can be used for sweeps and to set up joint locks or chokeholds.
k1ddyn4mite 3 years ago
and for the record.. if you wanna get REALLY technical with it... it's not a guard sweep at all.. andre specifically lets the guy pass before he pulls the sweep. once the guy on top clears into the outside of the legs, they're not in guard anymore...
BUT... it's a sweep setup from the spider/open guard position.
btw. training for me involves discussing techniques. if im wrong, i own up to it. i'll admit i didnt ever think of spider as "open", but thats how i how i learned it as
axemurderer27 3 years ago
omg you just made yourself look stupid, it's a sweep, the guy never passed, no control... do you really train or are you just lying...
so you say it's not a sweep, but he sweeps him??? you know sweeps only comes from guard... you don't sweep from being in mount or side control, you don't get awarded two points doing that.
k1ddyn4mite 3 years ago
listen very carefully to what ander says at 43 secs. "passe".. my portuguese aint that great but that evidentl;y that means pass. from what andre said to me, "i let him pass, then i sweep"
there's no points being awarded for a pass because he wouldnt be able to pin him down for 3 seconds. the pass is a distraction so for the guy underneath to have the leverage to sweep.
when did i say it's not a sweep?!?!
i said it's not a sweep from guard since when the sweep happens, hes not in guard
axemurderer27 3 years ago
I don't wanna argue with either of you, but let me help you with the translation. What he says at that point is
"The guy is going to put his weight on his shoulder to pass... as he does this, I spin..."
I'm a white belt, so I don't really have enough knowledge to say which one of you is right.
UmDiaEuFicoBom 2 years ago
Dude, when the other guy "passes", Galvao still has control of his left arm with his own leg between him and the other guy. For the other guy to be passed he would need to clear both of his arms, and Galvao's LEGS. In this case, Galvao let him pass to the side however he still has his right leg in play, trapping his opponents left arm.
SuZuk1Z 2 years ago
@SuZuk1Z Good explanation...finally after doing this several times, I finally got it..
Vazquez71 1 year ago
this is actually an incorrect definition of spider guard. Spider guard is one foot on the hip one foot on the bicep
JawBreakerJimmy 2 years ago
lol no it isn't
k1ddyn4mite 2 years ago
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type in "Spider Guard" on youtube and stop owning urself
or better yet go train at a legit school
JawBreakerJimmy 2 years ago
haha sure...
Spider guard
The spider guard comprises a number of positions all of which involve controlling the opponents arms while using the soles of the feet to control the opponent at the biceps, hips, thighs or a combination of them. It is most effective when the sleeves of the opponent can be grabbed, for instance if the opponent is wearing a gi. The spider guard can be used for sweeps and to set up joint locks or chokeholds.
k1ddyn4mite 2 years ago
Sorry that I train with a World Champ, Pan Am Champ, US Open Champ, ADCC vet, Brazilian National Champ and so on... BTW in a way you're actually correct, but you said it's hip and bicep control, while that is true, there are other aspects of spider guard, soles on bicep, shin on biceps, and so on...
k1ddyn4mite 2 years ago 3
oh snap!
eegz88 2 years ago
oh snap!
eegz88 2 years ago
Yeah I doubt Andre Galvao knows what he is talking about.....sure
BJJkid94 2 years ago
@JawBreakerJimmy Awesome move, Galvao is the man. What if instead of waiting for the opponent to pass, Galvao actively got on his shoulder blades and inverted his guard? Would that basically be the same move? Just as effective?
cerebralassassin78 1 year ago
LOL at axemurderer 27 embarassing himself - i'd be suprised if he ever leaves comments again.
fightywhitey 3 years ago
i didnt embarass myself.. from galvao's mouth... it's a spider guard sweep because it's setup spider guard.
axemurderer27 3 years ago
spider guard.. not open guard
axemurderer27 3 years ago
umm you do know that anything where the legs are open is considered open guard. therefore spider is a part of open guard. and besides, spider has either the shins or foot inside their bicep
k1ddyn4mite 3 years ago
de la riva guard is open guard, butterfly guard is open guard... and so on
k1ddyn4mite 3 years ago
btw... im training with andre galvao this week.. want me to ask him what he thinks?
axemurderer27 3 years ago
of course... but it'd be a lot more descriptive if you listed it as a spider guard sweep...
it'd be like calling x-guard a half-guard..
it's not wrong, but it could be more descriptive
axemurderer27 3 years ago
but you said "not open guard" it clearly is open. ask him, like it's a big deal... he'll tell you it's open guard. instead of trying to be "specific" why don't you just watch and train instead of trying to correct what doesn't need to be corrected
k1ddyn4mite 3 years ago
BTW x guard is Open guard, theres no point in x guard where your legs are wrapped around the opponents leg... they are both UNDER the legs, it's open guard...
k1ddyn4mite 3 years ago
from Andre's mouth... it's a spider guard sweep because it is setup from the spider guard.
you pull spider guard, reach around with the hook and let the guy pass.
again, you not wrong and i'm not trying calling you out or nothing...
axemurderer27 3 years ago
still spider guard is OPEN guard. you know i never once said it isnt spider, i want to be basic when naming guards, open, closed, and half... thats all there is really. everything else is a variation of those three. so instead of getting the most current term of it, because back in the 80's it wasn't called spider, why don't you just train instead of making a big deal... i bet you JUST started training.
k1ddyn4mite 3 years ago
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axemurderer27 3 years ago
Posição simples e eficaz!!muito boa
GRAMSCIFFP 3 years ago
show, facil e eficaz!!!
RENATOXOXOTE 3 years ago
irada posicao e facil!!!sem balaca!valeu
123be4 3 years ago
wow nice move
eugdog106 3 years ago
mto maneira..adorei..boa mesmo
robdipphotmail 3 years ago
i just did the sweep and i pulled of a triangle. haha
wari360 3 years ago
damn.. sneaking sweep.. just dont let go of his arms..
Vazquez71 3 years ago
oh hellz yeah!
cquenault 3 years ago
i love this sweep but i find it easier to fnish in the mounted position.
gjj4life 3 years ago
that's dope.
fightfromthetop 3 years ago
11 Time BJJ World Champ, he's Amazing
masswithclass 3 years ago 7
Beautiful sweep, I show the pass as a counter from the open guard albeit with the right foot in a different pos'n but will definitely experiment with this tonight in class!
purplepoodle1970 4 years ago
open guard sweep to omoplata
bjjmomo 4 years ago
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What a sissy!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Tapeveryone666 4 years ago
how so?
gjj4life 3 years ago
This kid is the shiat.
edukanaan 4 years ago