nice plane but i like the EF2000 more, its alot more agile and without the expensive und "useless2 stealth thing. Even french made iraqi radar and british radar during operation iraqi freedom could detect the F117 Nighthawk on their radar's. There was an interesting article in the newspaper over this. The EF2000 produced after 2011 will be added with thrust vectoring from a spanish/German company. I like both planes and thankfully they will only strike against terrorists or kind of.
There have been no reports of the F-117's being tracked in Iraq that I've ever read. Please provide a source for this?
If you honestly think stealth is useless after it has proven itself with THOUSANDS of sorties in Iraq... something is wrong with you. Try going over Baghdad with over 100 AA missile sites, and guns at one time with a normal aircraft... YOU CAN'T!
there were reports and interviews, even from bbc. Try to search with google for it. Stealth has proven itself with outdated radar systems, which 3rd world countrys or east european countrys often use. Against the newest generation of chinese,russian or west european radars it is not proven at all.There are also others ways to detect stealth, be creative and search the internet for it, i wont do this for you :)
People have this misconception that stealth makes an plane totally oblivious to enemy threat radars but that is simply not the case. Its a combination of tactics, support from electronic warfare platforms like the E/A-6 and good intel that make a stealth plane effective and survivable in combat. The idea reduced detection and avoidance.
A stealth aircraft can be detected, but its very difficult compared to conventional aircraft. The general ideal is that you have to be very close to pick up a stealth aircraft on radar. Its the pilots intel that keeps him from steering his aircraft directly into a SAM sight. Radar jamming support doesnt hurt either
As a former F117 Avionics Tech... I attest that stealth does work; The proper terminology is "Low Observable" - so no... it isn't invisible. However it is very effective with proper tactics. F117s have flown many of times into harms way without ECM capability and the enemy didn't know what hit them. When in peacetime and training they have "Enhancers" installed on the sides of the fuselage to increase their radar cross section for air traffic purposes.
My initial job title and training was as a F16 Attack Control Systems tech but I was cross-trained into F117s as soon as I graduated tech school and got to Holloman AFB. I did not re-enlist so F117s are all I ever worked on apart from training on F16s during tech. It is my understanding that if I had stayed in, my next station would have been Korea to work on F16s and then back to Holloman after that tour. If I would have been a "lifer", I could have very well been a "Raptor Keeper" today. :)
w w w . youtube . com/watch?v=891jH3wZD7s sukhois do these manoeuvers for 20 years now without vector thrust and with cheaper and more reliable planes. when f-22 makes cobra or kullbit its like a su 37 in slow motion
F22 is invasible for MIG-35 OLS and S-400 so Raptor is no longer interesting for Russia. If you want to see Raptor so buy Mig-35 OLS, if you want to fight against Raptor so buy MIG-29 OVT. And if you want to be King of the air wait of MIG 1.44.
Cool (the kid in me talking). But the sooner they are forced to try flying these things on ethanol or something the better. That'll be worth some lulz.
The F-22 would be a great airshow machine if everyone ponyed up the $150k a head its taking to operate these suckers; white collar welfare, keep those engineers driving escalades and pilots getting laid while the real work is being done by guys in humvees and robots in UAV. lets get real and stop building this bullshit.
Tinito16, there are figures of around 31k lbs for the empty weight of the Raptor but the official "empty" weight is "40,000 pound class" so if you assume a fuel fraction of 30% then you get a figure of around 60k lbs which matches the accepted take-off weight nicely !
The official empty weight ie. - fuel, armaments etc is listed as being 40,000 pound class. If you then work out the minimum fuel ratio the F22 should have 0.30 then you come to 60,000 lbs for 100% fuel and no armaments.
Does anyone here know the actual Wing loading of the Raptor? I've read anything from 66lbs/sq ft to 80 lbs/sq ft. I dont know why every source I come up with seems to have a different wing loading. I did the calculations myself (from info provided in wikipedia) and came up with the 66 lbs/sq ft wing loading. But I don't know that's factual. So does anyone who has any authority on this know?
Fantastic Plane. America has the worlds finest Military. But America is being lead to believe we spend too little on military defense. Research* on world military spending shows America is now spending more money than CHINA, RUSSIA, U.K., JAPAN, FRANCE, GERMANY, INDIA, NORTH KOREA, IRAN, ISRAEL and CANADA COMBINED!!! Yes we need our military forces but we are spending over $450 billion annually to fight terrorist who have NO ARMY, NO NAVY and NO AIRFORE and NO U.S.S.R. Nuke Arsenal.
we dont need them. Now we have more planes that nobody else can shoot down. Just like the rest of the fleet.... F-18 is good enough guys... more money down the drain
I think some people rag on the F-22, due to jealousy. I'm Irish, our most advanced aircraft is a prop-powered Pilatus PC-90 and I have no problem admitting the F-22 is a friggin' triumph, so I just don't count.
But people from Countries other than the UK, US and Ireland might have a problem admitting that their Sukhoi's and MiG's (although beautiful and lethal) aren't in the spotlight anymore. The F-22 is awesome and I think some people just need to come to terms with that.
I wouldn't say trigger happy, friendly fire happens in war. It sucks, and I saw that video of what you are talking about, that was very sad. Did you hear how upset the pilots were when they found out they were friendly?
Type HERE : " Mirage 2000 Wonderful Video !! "
MAXOU10428 1 year ago
lol, the maneuverability of the F-15 sucks comparing to the F-22
hmn88 2 years ago
everybody watching this vid knows the f22 can take anything
usmcandrew16 3 years ago 2
So true!
Xx69roadrunnerxX 3 years ago
What's with the poor sound quality? It's so unlike the amazing sound quality of your other videos
UNSClead1 3 years ago
nice plane but i like the EF2000 more, its alot more agile and without the expensive und "useless2 stealth thing. Even french made iraqi radar and british radar during operation iraqi freedom could detect the F117 Nighthawk on their radar's. There was an interesting article in the newspaper over this. The EF2000 produced after 2011 will be added with thrust vectoring from a spanish/German company. I like both planes and thankfully they will only strike against terrorists or kind of.
sharpanator 4 years ago
There have been no reports of the F-117's being tracked in Iraq that I've ever read. Please provide a source for this?
If you honestly think stealth is useless after it has proven itself with THOUSANDS of sorties in Iraq... something is wrong with you. Try going over Baghdad with over 100 AA missile sites, and guns at one time with a normal aircraft... YOU CAN'T!
RSsnowolf4 4 years ago
there were reports and interviews, even from bbc. Try to search with google for it. Stealth has proven itself with outdated radar systems, which 3rd world countrys or east european countrys often use. Against the newest generation of chinese,russian or west european radars it is not proven at all.There are also others ways to detect stealth, be creative and search the internet for it, i wont do this for you :)
sharpanator 4 years ago
People have this misconception that stealth makes an plane totally oblivious to enemy threat radars but that is simply not the case. Its a combination of tactics, support from electronic warfare platforms like the E/A-6 and good intel that make a stealth plane effective and survivable in combat. The idea reduced detection and avoidance.
sussexj 4 years ago
A stealth aircraft can be detected, but its very difficult compared to conventional aircraft. The general ideal is that you have to be very close to pick up a stealth aircraft on radar. Its the pilots intel that keeps him from steering his aircraft directly into a SAM sight. Radar jamming support doesnt hurt either
sussexj 4 years ago
As a former F117 Avionics Tech... I attest that stealth does work; The proper terminology is "Low Observable" - so no... it isn't invisible. However it is very effective with proper tactics. F117s have flown many of times into harms way without ECM capability and the enemy didn't know what hit them. When in peacetime and training they have "Enhancers" installed on the sides of the fuselage to increase their radar cross section for air traffic purposes.
chadjcyr 3 years ago
So what airframe did you move on to?
sussexj 3 years ago
My initial job title and training was as a F16 Attack Control Systems tech but I was cross-trained into F117s as soon as I graduated tech school and got to Holloman AFB. I did not re-enlist so F117s are all I ever worked on apart from training on F16s during tech. It is my understanding that if I had stayed in, my next station would have been Korea to work on F16s and then back to Holloman after that tour. If I would have been a "lifer", I could have very well been a "Raptor Keeper" today. :)
chadjcyr 3 years ago
Zepto...you're not fooling anyone, leave Raptor pages alone...it's waaay out of your league!
tommytmt 4 years ago
Is flying an unknown aircraft as easy as driving a new car for experienced fighter pilots?
kirkjamestkirk 4 years ago
Check my video from MAKS-2007
Mig29tvc 4 years ago
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JNT11593 said: "Goddamn how many times do people have to tell you not once has an F-22 flown against a EuroFighter YOU GET THAT"
The Eurofighter have already beaten the F22 - Read source:
"internatinal AIR POWER REVIEW" - year 2006, issue 20, page 45. - ISNB: 1-880588-91-9 (casebound) or ISBN: 1473-9917.
And watch Typhoon with F22 picture:
img391,imageshack,us/img391/752/efraptorrw1,jpg
(replace the , with . in the link)
The Typhoon is a Raptor killer....
Zeptocomp 4 years ago
w w w . youtube . com/watch?v=891jH3wZD7s sukhois do these manoeuvers for 20 years now without vector thrust and with cheaper and more reliable planes. when f-22 makes cobra or kullbit its like a su 37 in slow motion
goldeneye215 4 years ago
Raptor pilots are only allowed to show 20% of the planes capabilities!
dsm4eva2 4 years ago
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F22 is invasible for MIG-35 OLS and S-400 so Raptor is no longer interesting for Russia. If you want to see Raptor so buy Mig-35 OLS, if you want to fight against Raptor so buy MIG-29 OVT. And if you want to be King of the air wait of MIG 1.44.
Mig29tvc 4 years ago
I think SU-37 is no longer the best Jet in the world. Look at Mig-29 wit Thrust Vector Control (watch?v=PWLYTAYG-9U)
Mig29tvc 4 years ago
Cool (the kid in me talking). But the sooner they are forced to try flying these things on ethanol or something the better. That'll be worth some lulz.
egoistanarchist 4 years ago
Nice video of the F-22. Thanks
TallSky 4 years ago
The F-22 would be a great airshow machine if everyone ponyed up the $150k a head its taking to operate these suckers; white collar welfare, keep those engineers driving escalades and pilots getting laid while the real work is being done by guys in humvees and robots in UAV. lets get real and stop building this bullshit.
zuluvic 4 years ago
Tinito16, there are figures of around 31k lbs for the empty weight of the Raptor but the official "empty" weight is "40,000 pound class" so if you assume a fuel fraction of 30% then you get a figure of around 60k lbs which matches the accepted take-off weight nicely !
MrPikon 4 years ago
If you go by official figures then -
wing area = 838 ft²
take off weight = 60,000 lbs
wing loading ( lb/ft²) = 71.6
Thats a realistic figure to go by compared to around 73~74 lb/ft² for F15C and around 63~64 lb/ft² for the Eurofighter Typhoon ...
MrPikon 4 years ago
well if you go by those figures, wouldn't that mean the jets just barely take off?
is that inclding bombs or no?
because if not, it could only hold 670.4 lbs more before it can't lift off at all.
ericeng91 4 years ago
The official empty weight ie. - fuel, armaments etc is listed as being 40,000 pound class. If you then work out the minimum fuel ratio the F22 should have 0.30 then you come to 60,000 lbs for 100% fuel and no armaments.
MrPikon 4 years ago
"it could only hold 670.4 lbs more before it can't lift off at all."
Don't understand why you think that it's probably got a MTOW of about 80k lbs, with air to air load it will without a doubt be able to go ballistic !
MrPikon 4 years ago
Does anyone here know the actual Wing loading of the Raptor? I've read anything from 66lbs/sq ft to 80 lbs/sq ft. I dont know why every source I come up with seems to have a different wing loading. I did the calculations myself (from info provided in wikipedia) and came up with the 66 lbs/sq ft wing loading. But I don't know that's factual. So does anyone who has any authority on this know?
Tinito16 4 years ago
good
gooder
goodest
cvn62 4 years ago
clip its super but u.s politik is not for this world..
50procentLAZ 4 years ago
Fantastic Plane. America has the worlds finest Military. But America is being lead to believe we spend too little on military defense. Research* on world military spending shows America is now spending more money than CHINA, RUSSIA, U.K., JAPAN, FRANCE, GERMANY, INDIA, NORTH KOREA, IRAN, ISRAEL and CANADA COMBINED!!! Yes we need our military forces but we are spending over $450 billion annually to fight terrorist who have NO ARMY, NO NAVY and NO AIRFORE and NO U.S.S.R. Nuke Arsenal.
investortownhall 4 years ago
yeah cooooooooooollllll
libyeee 4 years ago
we dont need them. Now we have more planes that nobody else can shoot down. Just like the rest of the fleet.... F-18 is good enough guys... more money down the drain
robertdihno 4 years ago
Man that was poor!
What a "safe" display
USAF = No Balls
Lizard128 4 years ago
They can fly at afterburner speed without using their afterburners. But when they do, look out!
FreakOfDaVideo 4 years ago
F-22 will F U in the A! Usa!Usa!Usa!
Snuff99 4 years ago
Its amazing that the F-15 is still the premier air superiority fighter in the world and the F-22 makes it look like a VW bus!!
TowManSKS 4 years ago
Euro Typhoon FTW
yaHARmeMATEY 4 years ago
See : "Patrouille de Françe"
;)
Microceb 4 years ago
there isn't a ç in France...
WockeDeWacko 4 years ago
LMAO! I LOVE Those planes!
JohnnyHGT 4 years ago
Olha watch?v=nneVbf4ythw
pomj1978 4 years ago
love the vid, these are sikrydez!!!..its like the vids provided by sikrydez check em out
sikrydez 4 years ago
good!
argent333 4 years ago
Pas aussi bien que la patrouille française !
mais c pas mal quand meme
Olivier1989 4 years ago
Maveric, Iceman, Rooster, Knobjocky... Ha ha ha
andydiamond77 4 years ago
LOVE THE F-22!!! (Note my display name)
Raptor05121 4 years ago
AAHHH I was gonna go to that..
irollon50mm 4 years ago
I think some people rag on the F-22, due to jealousy. I'm Irish, our most advanced aircraft is a prop-powered Pilatus PC-90 and I have no problem admitting the F-22 is a friggin' triumph, so I just don't count.
But people from Countries other than the UK, US and Ireland might have a problem admitting that their Sukhoi's and MiG's (although beautiful and lethal) aren't in the spotlight anymore. The F-22 is awesome and I think some people just need to come to terms with that.
PhoenixFlameX 4 years ago
Welcome to the United States of America ladies and gentlemen!
parker394 4 years ago
lets hope the trigger happy yanks learn how to use it and not shoot the british army on the ground
patpatpat55 4 years ago
I wouldn't say trigger happy, friendly fire happens in war. It sucks, and I saw that video of what you are talking about, that was very sad. Did you hear how upset the pilots were when they found out they were friendly?
Schlitz 4 years ago
Those F22 are so ugly..
Melloron 4 years ago
I don't think the USAF really cares when they have the most advanced war fighter plane on the planet...
Schlitz 4 years ago
I make parts for them. They keep you safe. Shut up and have a nice day!
parker394 4 years ago
will the f22 finally be at RIAT this year?
ITW84 4 years ago
Number 4 needs to pull it in!
MixtureRich 4 years ago
Awesome.
oneron04 4 years ago
IT CRAZEY F-22
JORMARSHAL 4 years ago
very interesting
feasability 4 years ago
sweet!
XaerousCorpus 4 years ago
awesome!
those f-22's are amazing
azndrummer1 4 years ago
Awsome.
Empires91 4 years ago