@cindybin2001 He can swear all he likes, jesus you're probably an old woman but you act like a 12 year old. I think i've seen your revolting comments on every fucking weed video on youtube. Yes, i swore! I swear to exagerate my point, not for any childish reason you can come ip with. A swear used in context is a word as valuble as any other. Pardon my un-civilised prose my "lady".
there is no cash in a cure, only treatment. that is why cannabis is not being used as a medicine its a clear cure. and it scares the shit out of the doctors to know we as sick people can grow a plant that will save us, and make all those chemical pills obsolete, and all those unnessicary un welcoming clinical office visits a thing of the past!
all it is, is a psychological warfare every loan for school we study so hard for goes to the rich for doing little to nothing for society(us) specialy whith houses and cars, pot can help us, oil weed, cloth, gas, h2o, oxygen ect....
I have a close friend who has bone cancer and came across THC Oil as a possible solution. I live in Holland so I’m able to make it. I use totally natural Marijuana and 100% alcohol and distill these together. His last checkup showed cancer spread in the bones hasn’t progressed. He also feels a bit better.
I am not saying this works, but that I am monitoring it and will see. I also see you can’t buy this, which is crazy, so contact me (chaseforacure@mail.com)
PLEASE MAKE VIRAL!!!!!!!! Can you see this is all controlled by the Military Industrial Complex, the Large Corporations=AIPAC! WAKE UP FOLKS! THEY CONTROL THE MEDIA AND OUR FOREIGN POLICY! VOTE RON PAUL! FREE ENERGY FOR ALL! HYDROGEN ENERGY! OH, ONE MORE THING, THC IN HEMP OIL CURES CANCER and EXTENDS LIFE! THE TRUTH IS COMING OUT! ZEITGEIST, ALEX JONES, david icke, david duke. DUPONT COVERED THIS UP!
Our first priority as Americans should be to focus on getting Ron Paul elected. He is seemingly the lone voice in government exposing the corruption and speaking the truth. He has always been a defender of the Constitution and desperately wants to restore our civil liberties and he vows to make drugs legal, setting non-violent possession prisoners free. Once he is elected, a lot of these conspiracies will come to light. It's hope mixed with action that will change this country.
@DTK5689 He never said that he wished to make drugs legal, even though he loves to rant about how asinine the Drug War is. His paleo-conservative philosophy entails keeping the federal government out of the state's business, while the state can do almost anything.
@zekdom If "paleo-conservative" means sharing the philosophy of Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin, James Madison, James Monroe, Thomas Paine, Patrick Henry, Samuel Adams and many of our other Founding Fathers by being a strict Constitutionalist, then yes, the label would apply. All of these men knew the threat of tyranny that a large federal government would pose and it turns out they couldn't have been more right. Ron Paul is a true statesmen, which is rare, if nonexistent these days
@DTK5689 Oh boy...Not all of our Founding Fathers shared the exact same philosophy as Ron Paul, but you may not be aware of that. Anyway, here's the philosophy summarized:
If a state legalizes heroin, then Paul, as President, would not use federal powers to interfere with that state policy. However, if Texas hands out the death penalty for possession of marijuana, then Ron Paul will also not interfere federally with that state policy. See? He is an extremist advocate for absolute state power.
@zekdom I said many, not all of our Founding Fathers. What I am aware of is the majority of them knew that following the Constitution would be key to preventing the government from becoming too big and intrusive and not allowing the bankers to control legislation, which is the case now. Ron Paul is a throwback to following the Constitution, which has been ignored by many. Because he is for smaller federal government, you automatically assume he wants States to become all powerful?
@DTK5689 I assume nothing, that's exactly his philosophy, and it's very sad that fans fail to understand that. Have you not watched a significant amount of his videos? I used to be a Ron Paul fan, until he astonished me with his odd views on states' rights.
@zekdom His "odd views on states' rights" were the backbone of the GOP until they married with the Democrats to bankrupt this country. They are only odd relative to the GOP today. Big government cannot be funded by a bankrupt nation. If we do nothing to change our current paradigm, the US dollar will collapse. It may anyway, but at least Ron Paul is proposing cuts in spending unlike all the other candidates.
@DTK5689 They are odd due to how the paleo-conservative ideology would return us to the "Articles of Confederation" era, an era of chaos where the federal government couldn't intervene to do anything. Well, the reason why the party changed its views was because they realized that it doesn't work. You need a balance of both federal and state power, we need a balance of socialism and capitalism. Ron Paul, if allowed, would destroy the balance. We need the return of the moderate!
@zekdom Are you contending that there is a balance now between state and federal? It is a misnomer that Ron Paul wants what you are accusing him of. Yes, he wants a reduced roll for the federal government. Key word being reduced, not elimination. What he wants to eliminate is any legislation that is unconstitutional. He believes in less is more. The same logic would hold true at the state level. He wants government to stay the hell out of our personal lives.
@DTK5689 I'm saying that there should be a balance. We need programs like Medicare and Social Security accompanied by a market economy that produces sound money. It's not a misnomer, and since you have said that, you have proven yourself to be a blind sheep...Ironic, because "blind" is something that Ron Paul fans calls everybody else, but even they don't know what their champion is really fighting for.
@zekdom Thank you for enlightening us on Ron Paul. I don't need proof, only your word stating that's what Ron Paul wants. I'll end with this: "My reading of history convinces me that most bad government results from too much government." -- Thomas Jefferson
@DTK5689 Sure, quoting the guy that violated the Constitution and was a terrible President, and also never freed his slaves. Read up on your history, I beg all of you.
@zekdom Jefferson did have faults, there's no doubt, but he was one of, if not the most important figure in our country's history. I'll not deny that he violated the Constitution in placing an embargo on trade to prevent ships from being pirated by the French and British, but that doesn't mean that he wasn't a great President. As for the slaves, he was bankrupt and had no ownership over them in reality. However, slavery was a huge stain on his legacy, I'll grant you that.
@DTK5689 Ah alright, I will say that Ron Paul is an interesting candidate. I tend to enjoy his social idea of civil liberties and non-interventionalist foreign policy, but the only problematic thing is that he would not federally interfere if a government of a state would not allow a certain freedom to be exercised. But hey, as a paleo-conservative, he is fairly consistent with his ideas. I do believe that he is not a servant of the federal government or corporations, and that's cool.
@zekdom I really don't think that his intention is to have an all-powerful state government because that serves no one. I think the small government mentality would catch on at the state level because more people would be aware of the tyranny big government has cultivated. Also, I think the view that if we didn't have government mandates to "provide" for people, we would have no compassion to help our neighbors. There's more good within us than we are led to believe by the media.
@DTK5689 While I do believe that people are actually born with the intention to help others, I still think that generations needs to be taken into account. For example, some generations of youth are nice and charitable, some are insipid and apathetic, but some generations are 'hooliganistic.' When a civilization experiences the apathetic or the violent generations of young people, then who's going to help the guy who lost all of his money due to an injury? The only answer is the government.
@DTK5689 Continued... About Ron Paul, if you listen to all of what he's saying, then you can tell that he is for state power to the highest degree possible. For example, remember when Fox News moderated a Republican debate, and the blonde asked Ron Paul if he would federally interfere to regulate the morning after pill, if he would make that pill illegal? He didn't say that neither the state nor the government should not make it illegal, but he said "Let the state decide." as his final answer.
@zekdom Actuall no Ron isint for state power because the corrupt government is only thinking about themselves and other ways to make money, there is going to be no jobs for the next generation and Ron is are only hope as if he was president he could set the income tax rate to 0%.
@DTK5689 Continued... "He wants government to stay the hell out of our personal lives." Yup, but extremely to the point where the states, like Texas and Oklahoma, can issue the death penalty for marijuana users without any federal interference. Sure, some states may legalize pot and gay marriage, but not many others would. Is that what you want? And Ron Paul advocates for even ending abortion rights for women by issuing certain bills. Please see these links: H.R.2597 and H.R.392
Could those percent getti´ng "positive outcome by radiation actually been cured by placebo? Or maybe the disposition against the "curator" could have bringed on that. People is not living in a vacum. What's actually the problem? Check the results on the effect and implication of those cannabionoidsreceptor. As I see it now there's been good indication of THC as a treatment. Not only anectdotes but Laboratory finding as well. Theres no news that money means more than humanlife for pigpharma.
a shout out to all you government loving, conspiracy believing RETARDS who dare to question scientific PROOF that cannabis WILL one day be the cure for horrifying diseases that kill thousands.
you SCUM, who know who you are, that even DARE to click on thumbs down, are a disgrace, a waste of skin! you are all sick human beings who deserve nothing more than to die for your persistence with the war on marijuana.
I AM A CANNABIS SMOKER, AND I BELIEVE IT IS MOTHER NATURES CURE
ah yes i see.. the pills we gave him to take over the 6 month period worked but the tumors came back, he used some natural oil that is dirt cheap and it worked over a couple months.... lets keep him on the pills. FUCK THE GOVERNMENT, FUCK DRUGS. Smoke weeeed nigga
One study demonstrated a doubling in lung cancer for male marijuana smokers who also used tobacco.long-term use of marijuana increased the risk of lung cancer in young adults,
Many carcinogens in tobacco smoke are also present in smoke from marijuana.
Marijuana smoking causes inflammation and cell damage.Marijuana increases the risk of testicular cancer,prostate cancer, cervical cancer, a type of brain tumor, and the risk of leukemia in the offspring of women who use it during pregnancy.
If these drug companies ever found a way to reverse disease they'd never in a million years give it to us. Just like our use of oil, the shit was obsolete many years ago, but they're not going to let us stop using it. What has happened to this country, no one holds these corrupt politicians accountable anymore. These drug companies are pushing shit now that does more damage than good to keep the profits flowing. They make billions, kick-back a few million for lawsuits & walk away w full pockets.
@HemiHead66 Oh of COURSE you have to use profanity! Here I am reading your comment and HOPING to find a nice person who may support medical marijuana but who doesn't swear and agrees that we shouldn't smoke pot to get high, and of course you just HAVE to use the sh-word! WHY??? To prove you're a man? Gotta be all tough and cool? How crude and offensive! Do you realize there are ladies on these boards? Do you swear in real life? And do you smoke pot recreationally??
Why do we need a whole array drugs constructed upon cannbinoid- and THC-molecular structure, when we can experiment in breeding forth different qualities in the actual plants?
Because Big Pharma wants the money for this medicine aswell, were not going to be allowed free medicine in this world.
Fucking news teams .. conmstantly pushing like like "May" "could "possibly" .... the people who have found this out are not saying "Maybe" They are sayiing it DOES cure Cancer ffs
@TRYER25 It's a diverse group of people, actually. People up in Canada have cured their cancer with cannabis oil, and two little girls with brain tumors (one was progressing in size) inhaled the cannabinoids that led to a significant reduction in the size of their brain tumors. Even people in Colorado have reported successful treatments of carcinoma with using cannabis extracts and oil. Cancer cells have CB receptors, which is why THC can kill them. Nobody is signifcantly different.
@TRYER25 Well, how can the world be cured with it if they never heard about the science behind it? If we already have proven that the cannabinoids consistently killed cancer cells, inhibited cancer cell growth, reduced tumor size in a dose-dependent manner, in petri dishes, test tubes, animals, and even humans, then why isn't it a fact that the cannabinoids are anti-neoplastic chemical compounds? Would it help if I gave you abstracts of peer-reviewed articles presented in medical journals?
Hi...do any of you know how to get the real hemp oil ? i live in Argentina...i was hoping any way to buy it online even if it is illegal and get it shipped to me...any contacts of people that are selling the real stuff?
@ipillage1 Hello Mark, check out the Block center in Illinois, they are hands down the best Scientifically proven cancer clinic in the US. Good luck I hope it works out, you don't have anything to loose in trying the hemp oil but you should also consult with someone at the Block Center. What kind of cancer do you have?
@refuckulate420 Reagan did something for the American people without common sense can't possibly understand. He had his flaws like the rest of them, though. Jimmy Carter was the joke!
"The rapists, thieves, and murderers are usually on drugs."
Yep, and they would be with our without prohibition, clown. My oh my, you are thick. Most arrests are simply possession, you know, personal use? Putting these people in prison in most cases simply makes them come out even worse a person with no chance of contributing to society.
"so why quote Einstein?"
Because he was intelligent, and intelligent people understand prohibition fails :D. Screws loose? That's you!
The prestige of government has undoubtedly been lowered considerably by the prohibition law. For nothing is more destructive of respect for the government and the law of the land than passing laws which cannot be enforced. It is an open secret that the dangerous increase of crime in this country is closely connected with this." Albert Einstein
"Legalization would make things worse than they already are! "
Wrong! The drug war has succeeded in escalating the problem by funding criminals with billions of dollars and creating even more violence..ever heard of alcohol prohibition? IT WAS A PROVEN FAILURE! Focusing on incarceration rather then treatment and education is a proven failure! Our prisons are overpopulated with non-violent offenders while rapists, murderers and thieves roam free.
"Remember the failures of the Netherlands and the British! "
Yes! Remember the failure of prohibition that the British offer despite alcohol being the countries highly favored DRUG OF CHOICE! Yes, alcohol is a drug. A regulated drug, and one of the most dangerous next to tobacco. But regulation and control is always better then criminals controlling a market you can never stop!
@refuckulate420 Yeah, remember how heroin use in Britain actually increased after legalization/decriminalization of it, or whatever they wish to label the policy! Alcohol use skyrocketed after prohibition ended, so criminalizing it is not worse than regulating a drug and sending the wrong message to our kids! Alcohol prohibition was perceived as a failure, but proven to be otherwise once it was re-legalized. Our prisons are overpopulated with non-violent offenders? Ok, Casey Anthony supporter...
@timcrow420 Because pot heads don't think for themselves, and they fall into temptation too swiftly. It's much more difficult to just say no rather than to succumb, which is why it's so admirable to be virtuous, because it's so difficult to achieve. Still, I know a druggie that drinks alcohol and smokes marijuana couldn't understand basic virtue ethics...Anyway, I'm an Independent because I can think for myself!
You make it sound like every marijuana smoker is the same, But the last 3 presidents we have had smoked marijuana, Steve Jobs, Ted Turner, many successful people smoke, hell Montell Williams on day time TV smokes. You have this way of making marijuana sound so awful, its really kinda sad you beleive that. Im going to go smoke a joint in my back yard and mind my own business, its a shame not everyone is able to do that. Its not because im weak, its because I WANT TO
@timcrow420 Smoked, as in past tense, not on a daily basis...That we know of. It's very possible that Bush smoked marijuana on a regular basis, which is why he was one of the worst presidents ever! If you had other forms of pleasure that were less harmful, then why would you need to smoke marijuana? Because you're weak and a sheep. Pure and simple.
Ok, well It doesn't surprise me you support Obama. An under expierenced President, A man that has never been in the military telling the military where to go, cutting their paycheck (I have many relatives in the Army and Marines, and they have valid reasons why they hate him) Obama care, breaking his promises saying he would never have the Fed's raiding state ran Marijuana dispenseries. The list goes on, he is a communist
@timcrow420 No, son, you misunderstand. I'm laughing on how you think that Bush, who instilled the Patriot Act that violates the 4th Amendment, is any different than Obama, who allowed the Patriot Act to remain intact. Not to mention, both of them bankrupted this country into oblivion! Like I said, you're a sheep that believes that presidents are different...Well, they're not! :) At least for the past decade. I miss the glory days of Reagan and Eisenhower...Please come back, you guys!!!
Actually, no it didn't. Alcohol use rose greatly during prohibition, so did alcohol related deaths. The age at which drinking habits were formed were younger. Stop trying to lie, you ignorant clown of a fraud.
Although no one could tell the consumption rates exactly because alcohol sales weren't reported...Al Capone and gangs didn't pay taxes on their sales so they couldn't be tracked. Alcohol prohibition WAS a failure
@refuckulate420 (1) Actually, during the first few years of prohibition, alcohol use stabilized, but rose significantly after the last half of the prohibition of alcohol years. Then, it skyrocketed after alcohol prohibition ended, as did intoxicated individual automobile accidents. Yup, and guess how many bars opened up all over the USA after it was made legal? Yup, the number of bars selling alcohol skyrocketed to the millions. Don't believe me? Go to New York and Texas, for starters.
You just don't get it. People are going to use either way, people have a right to make that decision. The best we can do is to educate and offer treatment to those who will take it. Our resources are much better spent on education and our law enforcement time is much better spent going after rapists, murderers, thieves etc. You can't have it both ways. I'm sorry but you ignorant prohibitionist clowns don't get that decriminalisation/legalization is a matter of time.
@refuckulate420 Wow, I never thought an Irish, pope fanboy would ever say "education" in a sentence! The rapists, thieves, and murderers are usually on drugs. So, people are going to have a problem with that. Get your eyes checked and see if your retinas are damaged, young soul. By the way, we found something faster than the speed of light, so why quote Einstein? He had a few screws loose, if you smell what I'm tasting.
@starbobpizza Einsteins loose screws allowed him to understand/comprehend/innovate what you do in you lifetime, in a couple seconds. hows that for a hot cup of TEa H c you sheeple troll!! Dont diss the great einstein, for his time his thoughts were sublime. Boo yah.
The problem with alcohol prohibition is they realized it couldn't be enforced and that even IF less people use alcohol, the destructive nature of the black market it created was far worse. The crime it created, and all those untaxable dollars on sales that coudn't be tracked. Not to mention the resources wasted in the futile effort to stop it.
The law could not quell the continuing demand for alcoholic products. Thus, where legal enterprises could no longer supply the demand, an illicit traffic developed, from the point of manufacture to consumption. The institution of the speakeasy replaced the institution of the saloon. Estimates of the number of speakeasies throughout the United States ranged from 200,000 to 500,000.
Alcohol prohibition created gangs, violence and people still drank... a lot. You are a liar.
Furthermore...education and awareness programs have shown to decrease tobacco use among teens, despite its legality and open advertisement.
You are an ignorant clown and a joke. No one wants to live in the backwards society you want to push upon others. Next thing we know clowns like you will be trying to tell people what they can eat too.
It is the failure of free markets and Reaganomics that is driving up the prices of oil, food and just about everything else. Instead of making markets efficient, free market policies such as deregulation have made special interests richer and made the majority of people vulnerable to market manipulations by speculators and large corporations.
Dealers don't care who they get their money from...it's much easier for a teenager to score drugs then it is for them to acquire tobacco or alcohol, because these are regulated and carry heavy penalties for distribution to minors.
You like prohibition? You like funding criminals and the violence associated with the drug trade!
@refuckulate420 Most of criminals are under the influence of hard drugs, and marijuana is the stepping stone to hard drug use, you crusty bastard! There is a need for federal power. Remeber the "Articles of Confederation" era? Anyway, only 70% of teens actually agrees that it's easier to get their drugs from the store than going out of their way to meet a shady drug dealer. Since, all they have to do is to get their 21 year old friend to get their drugs for them, albeit with their money.
The police have used the drug war as an excuse to violate the rights of non-vioent offenders and even innocents..it's expanded the power of federal police and the spending doesn't stop.....even with a faltering economy and education system!
TREATMENT is PROVEN to be more effective then incarceration, considering drug availabilty and profitability is still very high even after more then 40 years of this failed drug war and overpopulated prisons!
These raids bring unnecessary violence and provocation to nonviolent drug offenders, many of whom were guilty of only misdemeanors. The raids terrorize innocents when police mistakenly target the wrong residence. And they have resulted in dozens of needless deaths and injuries, not only of drug offenders, but also of police officers, children, bystanders, and innocent suspects.
More facts! Plenty of them showing how destructive the drug war is! Don't trust a prohibitionist like starbobpizza!
increasingly frequent raids, 40,000 per year by one estimate, are needlessly subjecting nonviolent drug offenders, bystanders, and wrongly targeted civilians to the terror of having their homes invaded while they’re sleeping, usually by teams of heavily armed paramilitary units dressed not as police officers but as soldiers.
The AMA in the US has proven that cannabis does have positive medicinal properties!!! Yet the FDA will not allow it to be prescribed. Why? Because it would cause the pharmaceutical companies to back off on their gold mine drugs that they depend on. Besides, if you are dying of an incurable ailment, why not let the patient have whatever they need to alieve suffering! Is it worst than opium????
@mds1954 Part 2... We already have the thing that makes cannabis therapeutic isolated and legal! Marinol! Heroin has medicinal properties, too. And yes, we already have the synthetic version of heroin and the synthetic version of the cannabinoids, so that's not an issue. Since, pot heads just want to smoke it to get high. Anyway, the government already has a patent on cannabis, Patent no. 6630507. We just don't want people to smoke it, because marinol is just as therapeutic.
A study by the Washington State Institute for Public Policy found that every dollar spent on drug treatment in the community yields over $18 in cost savings related to crime.23 In comparison, prisons only yield $.37 in public safety benefit per dollar spent. Releasing people to supervision and making treatment accessible is an effective way of reducing problematic drug use, reducing crime associated with drug use and reducing the number of people in prison
Substance-involved people have come to compose a large portion of the prison population. Substance use may play a role in the commission of certain crimes: approximately 16 percent of people in state prison and 18 percent of people in federal prison reported committing their crimes to obtain money for drugs.21 Treatment delivered in the community is one of the most cost-effective ways to prevent such crimes and costs approximately $20,000 less than incarceration per person per year.
Incarceration Rate per 100,000 population 2002 US 701 NETHERLANDS 100
Homicide rate per 100,000 population Average 1999-2001 US 5.56 NETHERLANDS 1.51
Hmm..this 1 trillion dollar+ drug war is really proving ineffective according to the facts.
Remember...when our resources weren't focused on arresting and incarcerating drug users, our rate for solving crimes like homicide, rape, burglary and robbery were higher. These are crimes that actually have victims.
"Marijuana use skyrocketed more so than when it was illegal"
The Netherlands does not differ greatly from other European countries. In contrast, a comparison with the US shows a striking difference in this area: 32.9% of Americans aged 12 and above have experience with cannabis and 5.1% have used in the past month. These figures are twice as high as those in the Netherlands."
Infact drug and alcohol use in general in the U.S. is much higher desptie 1 TRILLION spent on the drug war.
@refuckulate420 2) I have, however, proved how legalization would be worse than the current prohibition methods. Since, legalization equals commercialization that has been proven to increase drug use to an exponential extent. I've presented the Institute of Medicine's report, the British Journal of Psychiatry 2001, the Addictive Behaviors Journal 2002, the British Journal of Psychiatry 2010, and the Archives of General Psychiatry 2001. You have not proven that legalization would reduce drug use.
"You have not proven that legalization would reduce drug use."
What I have proven and will continue to prove is that treating drug use as a criminal issue rather then a health one is ineffective, costly and even destructive.
Lifetime prevalence of marijuana use (ages 12+) 2001 US :36.9% NETHERLANDS: 17.0%
Lifetime prevalence of heroin use (ages 12+) 2001 US: 1.4% NETHERLANDS: 0.4%
@refuckulate420 The Netherlands doesn't have as many people as the U.S., and please cite your sources, you Irish bog bastard of a pot head! My facts are actual, because they are backed up by medical journals and surveys. Even so, if you paid attention, then you would've seen that marijuana use only reduced after the commercialization of pot was reduced. So, they had to cut back, because it became such a significant problem. Look up how the British failed the "disease" policy concerning drugs.
"I've presented well over 5-6 facts, and you have only provided 2"
No you haven't. All you've pushed is propaganda...you have provided absolutely ZERO facts as to how the drug war has been successful. I've provided plenty of data as to how prohibition has only escalated the problem and I will provide more soon. Keep trying starbobpizza and I'll continue to make you look like the ignorant clown you are, I won't give up in the face of ignorance and propaganda pushed by idiot clowns like you.
@refuckulate420 The purity would've risen faster if it were legal, which is a fact. By the way, Britain tried to decriminalize heroin in the 90's, and the policy failed. So, they went back to rescheduling heroin to a dangerous drug again. Oh dear son of justice, it would do you some good to learn about the world before you form opinions backed up by irrelevant fact. I've presented well over 5-6 facts, and you have only provided 2. So what does that say about the proponents of drug legalization?
"The purity would've risen faster if it were legal"
How so? I've clearly demonstrated otherwise, you have not.
"Britain tried to decriminalize heroin in the 90's"
three-quarters of the U.K.’s expenditure on drug-related problems is devoted to enforcement and international supply reduction, but that there is little evidence that the money is well spent.
This is a statement from the Royal College of Physicians in the UK. Drug use is a health issue, not a crime one.
@refuckulate420 "How so? I've clearly demonstrated otherwise, you have not."
You have demonstrated nothing. Remember the little fiasco in the Netherlands that many medical journals reported on when the Dutch commercialized marijuana? Marijuana use skyrocketed more so than when it was illegal. One organization consisting of physician's opinions means nothing. They live in nice, comfortable neighborhoods with their decent paycheck, while the common folk has to deal with the drug users everyday.
@refuckulate420 Part 3... If the provided information is propoganda:Institute of Medicine's report, the British Journal of Psychiatry 2001, the Addictive Behaviors Journal 2002, the British Journal of Psychiatry 2010, and the Archives of General Psychiatry 2001...Then how is the Royal College of Physicians in the UK not propoganda? Are you resorting to cherry picking, mate? If so, then you have already lost all credibility, and your arguments wouldn't hold up in an actual debate. Sweet dreams!
Strange, I pressed "Enter" twice between each category. Oh well, at least you pot heads will be able to read a post similar to how your grammatical skills turn out :D
They were going to get a life, but then they got high. They were going to get a Chevy, but then they got high, so very high ~~ They were going to stay in school, but then they got high, got so high! They were going to be productive members of society, but then they got high~~So high and mighty that their egos imploded with fallacies! So high~~~
Big bucks coffee and pizza is what capitalist coperate ingnorant pigs consume.
Calling people losers all the time and accusing people of being potheads,i personally dont think or would accuse everyone online of being something without any evidence.Evidence being the key word,of which you lack,aswell as common sense.JOKER
RUN FROM THE CURE.I AM A FREE SOVERIGN PERSON /UNDER COMMON LAW.PSget a job star bob,or are you wasting tax payers money?LMAO
@mraksuperk Better than you incoherent, needy people who live off of nothing but the government and the people's tax dollars and the drugs that you all sell. Again, there is a pot head mentality, and one does not need to smoke it to be stupid and ignorant. Evidence? The way your grammatical skills are being posted appears to be proof enough. Common sense dictates that any smoke and any memory-impairing chemical compound is detrimental to one's long-term health. Education first, then sovereignty!
"Better than you incoherent, needy people who live off of nothing but the government and the people's tax dollars"
Yet you want to use the peoples tax dollars to wage a war against people for a victimless "crime". You have insults, and immature generalizations, but you've yet to make a single cogent argument. By the way, I have a car, a job and have been working hard since I was 16. By the looks of it I have a better education then you too.
@refuckulate420 Continued... I wish to wage the war on crime, which the majority of arrested criminals are under the influence of! The Canadian Medical Association Journal 2002, the study you presented, reports that moderate users did not receive a decrease of IQ, but the heavy users did experience a decrease in IQ. Not to mention, the impaired memory.
I've made several cogent arguments, noob. Dig it:
-Schizophrenia and/or temporary mental retardation of which is chronic among pot heads.
1. According to Marijuana and Medicine: Assessing the Science Base, a report by the Institute of Medicine, commercialization of pot in the Netherlands led to an increase in use, and a reduction of commercialization led to a reduction of pot use. So, that proves that legalizing would lead to commercialization, which would lead to more drug users and more health problems.
2. Making excuses to get high is pathetic. You should be fighting to outlaw alcohol!
"So, that proves that legalizing would lead to commercialization, which would lead to more drug users and more health problems."
Your entire argument is based on that? LOL man, thanks for the laugh.
"You should be fighting to outlaw alcohol!"
Yes let's drive alcohol sales into a black market where it can't be taxed and regulated, too! Because prohibition of alcohol worked so well. You are out of my mind. Come up with a cogent argument or stop wasting my time.
@refuckulate420 It only failed because we didn't have good drug combatting strategies.
"Your entire argument is based on that? LOL man"
Well, you have just proven that you drug pushers shouldn't be taken seriously. Additionally, I just trumped your whole argument, son! By legalizing drugs, it would make things worse for the common man. That is the point! Analyze the cost vs benefit analysis, and do the math of what the penalties would be compared to now! Go play with your fantasies, Bachmann!
@refuckulate420 "You have no arguments, you've proven that."
Did Delta9-Tetrahydrocannabinol agonize your CB1 receptors again, lad? That, or it's probably because you're an Irish bug bastard. Maybe both? Shall I yet again prove that legalization would lead to more health problems, which would be detrimental to the functionality of societies? What would happen if your body was burned? Would your ashes turn green?
"Shall I yet again prove that legalization would lead to more health problems"
Shall I yet again prove that people have a right to choose what they put in their bodies?
You said that you'd support prohibition against alcohol and tobacco...still waiting for how that would be done, how it would be payed for and how it is a greater benefit to society then its current regulated status.
@refuckulate420 Only lads are uneducated, which is the case for you. Do you know what the CB1 receptor is, and what happens if it's agonized? It's basic science, you know...Well, It causes memory impairment. I just shortened it for you, but I should've taken the time to explain that. And for talking intelligently around you, I apologize.
Anyway, I say we combine the sociocultural model and the Biological model when deterring drug use. Cite your source, pot head. Or did you forget to do that?
I don't even smoke pot anymore..but I still support legalization of soft drugs and decriminalization of hard drugs. It's only a matter of time actually, you are on the losing side. Your draconian way of thinking is on the way out. Man you are a clown. Still so unwilling to support your position and unwilling to face the fact that prohibition creates a profit incentive for criminals and increases access to young people.
@refuckulate420 Prohibition does create a black market, but as I have constantly proven to you, legalization would make things worse. Key word: Worse. Only clowns barely present any facts, which is something you excel in! I'll continue to present the empirical data that legalization would make things worse by significantly increasing use of any drug. Anyway, I say we combine the Sociocultural model and the Biological model to deter alcohol and tobacco use. As I stated in my previous post.
that makes no sense what so ever, I already smoke marijuana everyday, sometimes a whole 8th, if it was legalized I would be doing exactly what I am now, I know it sounds crazy to someone that DOESNT SMOKE IN THE FIRST PLACE. So stick to what you know
@timcrow420 Well obviously, a law breaker will continue to partake in an unlawful act if it was made legal. Legalization would make things worse. Anybody that takes Advertising 101 knows that commercialization leads to an increase, more so than when it was illegal. "Marijuana and Medicine: Assessing the Science Base," a report by the Institute of Medicine, commercialization of pot in the Netherlands led to an increase in use, and a reduction of commercialization led to a reduction of pot use.
I just don't understand what the difference is, I can just go to my neighbor and bring him 250 dollars a week or I could go to the gas station and buy it, if anything if it was legal we might have some job oppurtunities, farming, growing, care taking, business, and like you said advertisement, Marijuana isn't killing people like other legal stuff out there is, cholesteral, nicotine, etc
@timcrow420 Duly noted, good sir. Still, please understand that marijuana may not kill ya, but it makes you apathetic to the point where you may as well be dead.
stop lying to me dude, I just got back from a halloween party, I smoked 4 bowls and had 5 beers, I had drunk girls stumbling into my every 15 seconds, 4 of my friends threw up and I ended up being a designated driver, I helped alot of fucking people because I wasnt screwed up on liquor. So you cant really tell me anything to agree with you, Ive seen and lived the truth, I doubt you have ever smoked a day in your life, so how could you know anything about it?
"but it makes you apathetic to the point where you may as well be dead."\
Nah you ignorant clown. There are a ton of successful marijuana users out there. People who are lazy and apathetic are going to be that way with or without weed.
Prohibitions: Supporting criminals and wasting taxpayer money for 70+ years.
"legalization would make things worse. Key word: Worse"
How could it be worse then creating a multi-billion dollar profit incentive for criminals and the violence assosciated with that market? You really are dense, you refuse to see the other side.
Treatment and education have proven far more effective in dealing with drug use then incarceration. Everyone saw was prohibition did with alcohol. Legalizing made it BETTER..because it was REGULATED.
@refuckulate420 As do you, and I have already seen the other side of total opinions with the occasional fact. If conservative Republicans would cease to support the war in the Middle East and call the troops back home, then we can have all of them close to home patrolling the border to prevent any more Mexican drug cartels from entering the USA. Actually, alcohol use skyrocketed after prohibition ended, and drunk driving rates have increased, more so than when it was illegal. Nice caps, hun :)
"then we can have all of them close to home patrolling the border to prevent any more Mexican drug cartels from entering the USA"
That's not going to do it, I'm afraid. That would be a very poor attempt at controlling the problem and cost billions of dollars we don't have to spend. Remember we've already spent 1 TRILLION on the drug war with no results.
"and drunk driving rates have increased"
Here's a fun fact: Alcohol related accidents are HIGHER in dry counties.
Want some more facts? In 1980 heroin prices were more expensive and the heroin was much less pure.
We are talking 3.6% purity. As the drug war carried on, heroin became cheaper and VERY pure. So not only do we have MUCH cheaper heroin as the drug war carried on...as of 1999 the purity had reached about 40%..keep in mind heroin is no less available then it was then. Heroin purity hasn't dropped as of 2011, it has risen. Facts :)
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simonv316 4 days ago
@cindybin2001 He can swear all he likes, jesus you're probably an old woman but you act like a 12 year old. I think i've seen your revolting comments on every fucking weed video on youtube. Yes, i swore! I swear to exagerate my point, not for any childish reason you can come ip with. A swear used in context is a word as valuble as any other. Pardon my un-civilised prose my "lady".
lampard554 1 week ago
look up" rick simpsons RUN FROM THE CURE" on you tube, to learn how to make this life saving oil, and hear from a man who CURED HIMSELF
Mr420ways 1 week ago
there is no cash in a cure, only treatment. that is why cannabis is not being used as a medicine its a clear cure. and it scares the shit out of the doctors to know we as sick people can grow a plant that will save us, and make all those chemical pills obsolete, and all those unnessicary un welcoming clinical office visits a thing of the past!
LEGALIZE AND STOP THE LEGAL-LIES
Mr420ways 1 week ago
It's evil to keep this from the public..
Nubias 2 weeks ago
there is 4 women in our city that destroyed 3rd stage beast cancer. all in 100 days or less.
I know it because they all stopped chemo after it left them weak and vomiting everything they ate.watch run from the cure on youtube
mrhempoilsoldier 2 weeks ago
U cant buy it cuz weed is everything! And the governmeny knows that. We could literly live hemp. Food,oil,clothes,medicine,NATURAL!
Its all about the money.
sti1223 2 weeks ago
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@sti1223 Okay, but do you agree that it's not right to smoke pot recreationally??
cindybin2001 1 week ago
all it is, is a psychological warfare every loan for school we study so hard for goes to the rich for doing little to nothing for society(us) specialy whith houses and cars, pot can help us, oil weed, cloth, gas, h2o, oxygen ect....
policekiller305 3 weeks ago
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ChaseForACure 4 weeks ago
Big pharma can't have that, now can they?
Vote Ron Paul 2012
BornInTzyon 1 month ago
Ron Paul is smexy...Just saying :)
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Hydrogenagent 1 month ago
Our first priority as Americans should be to focus on getting Ron Paul elected. He is seemingly the lone voice in government exposing the corruption and speaking the truth. He has always been a defender of the Constitution and desperately wants to restore our civil liberties and he vows to make drugs legal, setting non-violent possession prisoners free. Once he is elected, a lot of these conspiracies will come to light. It's hope mixed with action that will change this country.
DTK5689 1 month ago
@DTK5689 He never said that he wished to make drugs legal, even though he loves to rant about how asinine the Drug War is. His paleo-conservative philosophy entails keeping the federal government out of the state's business, while the state can do almost anything.
zekdom 1 month ago 4
@zekdom If "paleo-conservative" means sharing the philosophy of Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin, James Madison, James Monroe, Thomas Paine, Patrick Henry, Samuel Adams and many of our other Founding Fathers by being a strict Constitutionalist, then yes, the label would apply. All of these men knew the threat of tyranny that a large federal government would pose and it turns out they couldn't have been more right. Ron Paul is a true statesmen, which is rare, if nonexistent these days
DTK5689 1 month ago
@DTK5689 Oh boy...Not all of our Founding Fathers shared the exact same philosophy as Ron Paul, but you may not be aware of that. Anyway, here's the philosophy summarized:
If a state legalizes heroin, then Paul, as President, would not use federal powers to interfere with that state policy. However, if Texas hands out the death penalty for possession of marijuana, then Ron Paul will also not interfere federally with that state policy. See? He is an extremist advocate for absolute state power.
zekdom 1 month ago
@zekdom I said many, not all of our Founding Fathers. What I am aware of is the majority of them knew that following the Constitution would be key to preventing the government from becoming too big and intrusive and not allowing the bankers to control legislation, which is the case now. Ron Paul is a throwback to following the Constitution, which has been ignored by many. Because he is for smaller federal government, you automatically assume he wants States to become all powerful?
DTK5689 1 month ago
@DTK5689 I assume nothing, that's exactly his philosophy, and it's very sad that fans fail to understand that. Have you not watched a significant amount of his videos? I used to be a Ron Paul fan, until he astonished me with his odd views on states' rights.
zekdom 1 month ago
@zekdom His "odd views on states' rights" were the backbone of the GOP until they married with the Democrats to bankrupt this country. They are only odd relative to the GOP today. Big government cannot be funded by a bankrupt nation. If we do nothing to change our current paradigm, the US dollar will collapse. It may anyway, but at least Ron Paul is proposing cuts in spending unlike all the other candidates.
DTK5689 1 month ago
@DTK5689 They are odd due to how the paleo-conservative ideology would return us to the "Articles of Confederation" era, an era of chaos where the federal government couldn't intervene to do anything. Well, the reason why the party changed its views was because they realized that it doesn't work. You need a balance of both federal and state power, we need a balance of socialism and capitalism. Ron Paul, if allowed, would destroy the balance. We need the return of the moderate!
zekdom 1 month ago
@zekdom Are you contending that there is a balance now between state and federal? It is a misnomer that Ron Paul wants what you are accusing him of. Yes, he wants a reduced roll for the federal government. Key word being reduced, not elimination. What he wants to eliminate is any legislation that is unconstitutional. He believes in less is more. The same logic would hold true at the state level. He wants government to stay the hell out of our personal lives.
DTK5689 1 month ago
@DTK5689 I'm saying that there should be a balance. We need programs like Medicare and Social Security accompanied by a market economy that produces sound money. It's not a misnomer, and since you have said that, you have proven yourself to be a blind sheep...Ironic, because "blind" is something that Ron Paul fans calls everybody else, but even they don't know what their champion is really fighting for.
zekdom 1 month ago
@zekdom Thank you for enlightening us on Ron Paul. I don't need proof, only your word stating that's what Ron Paul wants. I'll end with this: "My reading of history convinces me that most bad government results from too much government." -- Thomas Jefferson
Good day, honorable zekdom :)
DTK5689 1 month ago
@DTK5689 Sure, quoting the guy that violated the Constitution and was a terrible President, and also never freed his slaves. Read up on your history, I beg all of you.
zekdom 1 month ago
@zekdom Jefferson did have faults, there's no doubt, but he was one of, if not the most important figure in our country's history. I'll not deny that he violated the Constitution in placing an embargo on trade to prevent ships from being pirated by the French and British, but that doesn't mean that he wasn't a great President. As for the slaves, he was bankrupt and had no ownership over them in reality. However, slavery was a huge stain on his legacy, I'll grant you that.
DTK5689 1 month ago
@DTK5689 Ah alright, I will say that Ron Paul is an interesting candidate. I tend to enjoy his social idea of civil liberties and non-interventionalist foreign policy, but the only problematic thing is that he would not federally interfere if a government of a state would not allow a certain freedom to be exercised. But hey, as a paleo-conservative, he is fairly consistent with his ideas. I do believe that he is not a servant of the federal government or corporations, and that's cool.
zekdom 1 month ago
@zekdom I really don't think that his intention is to have an all-powerful state government because that serves no one. I think the small government mentality would catch on at the state level because more people would be aware of the tyranny big government has cultivated. Also, I think the view that if we didn't have government mandates to "provide" for people, we would have no compassion to help our neighbors. There's more good within us than we are led to believe by the media.
DTK5689 1 month ago
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@DTK5689 While I do believe that people are actually born with the intention to help others, I still think that generations needs to be taken into account. For example, some generations of youth are nice and charitable, some are insipid and apathetic, but some generations are 'hooliganistic.' When a civilization experiences the apathetic or the violent generations of young people, then who's going to help the guy who lost all of his money due to an injury? The only answer is the government.
zekdom 1 month ago
@DTK5689 Continued... About Ron Paul, if you listen to all of what he's saying, then you can tell that he is for state power to the highest degree possible. For example, remember when Fox News moderated a Republican debate, and the blonde asked Ron Paul if he would federally interfere to regulate the morning after pill, if he would make that pill illegal? He didn't say that neither the state nor the government should not make it illegal, but he said "Let the state decide." as his final answer.
zekdom 1 month ago
@zekdom Actuall no Ron isint for state power because the corrupt government is only thinking about themselves and other ways to make money, there is going to be no jobs for the next generation and Ron is are only hope as if he was president he could set the income tax rate to 0%.
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@DTK5689 Continued... "He wants government to stay the hell out of our personal lives." Yup, but extremely to the point where the states, like Texas and Oklahoma, can issue the death penalty for marijuana users without any federal interference. Sure, some states may legalize pot and gay marriage, but not many others would. Is that what you want? And Ron Paul advocates for even ending abortion rights for women by issuing certain bills. Please see these links: H.R.2597 and H.R.392
zekdom 1 month ago
RON PAUL 2012!
gregmusselman 1 month ago
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Itsmeeman1 1 month ago
by by big pharma...
bagoodtube 1 month ago
Could those percent getti´ng "positive outcome by radiation actually been cured by placebo? Or maybe the disposition against the "curator" could have bringed on that. People is not living in a vacum. What's actually the problem? Check the results on the effect and implication of those cannabionoidsreceptor. As I see it now there's been good indication of THC as a treatment. Not only anectdotes but Laboratory finding as well. Theres no news that money means more than humanlife for pigpharma.
MrPannlob 2 months ago
@MrPannlob
if cancer could be solved by a simple placebo, it wouldn't be a problem.
Kirbyluver2 1 month ago
LEGALIZE!!
a shout out to all you government loving, conspiracy believing RETARDS who dare to question scientific PROOF that cannabis WILL one day be the cure for horrifying diseases that kill thousands.
you SCUM, who know who you are, that even DARE to click on thumbs down, are a disgrace, a waste of skin! you are all sick human beings who deserve nothing more than to die for your persistence with the war on marijuana.
I AM A CANNABIS SMOKER, AND I BELIEVE IT IS MOTHER NATURES CURE
durkydurx123 2 months ago
WATCH [ RUN FROM THE CURE ] ON YOUTUBE
reginald58 2 months ago
ah yes i see.. the pills we gave him to take over the 6 month period worked but the tumors came back, he used some natural oil that is dirt cheap and it worked over a couple months.... lets keep him on the pills. FUCK THE GOVERNMENT, FUCK DRUGS. Smoke weeeed nigga
AMAD9 2 months ago
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One study demonstrated a doubling in lung cancer for male marijuana smokers who also used tobacco.long-term use of marijuana increased the risk of lung cancer in young adults,
Many carcinogens in tobacco smoke are also present in smoke from marijuana.
Marijuana smoking causes inflammation and cell damage.Marijuana increases the risk of testicular cancer,prostate cancer, cervical cancer, a type of brain tumor, and the risk of leukemia in the offspring of women who use it during pregnancy.
mrarches 2 months ago
@mrarches that's if you smoke it,any form of smoke does damage man
VictorC53 1 month ago
If these drug companies ever found a way to reverse disease they'd never in a million years give it to us. Just like our use of oil, the shit was obsolete many years ago, but they're not going to let us stop using it. What has happened to this country, no one holds these corrupt politicians accountable anymore. These drug companies are pushing shit now that does more damage than good to keep the profits flowing. They make billions, kick-back a few million for lawsuits & walk away w full pockets.
HemiHead66 2 months ago 17
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@HemiHead66 Oh of COURSE you have to use profanity! Here I am reading your comment and HOPING to find a nice person who may support medical marijuana but who doesn't swear and agrees that we shouldn't smoke pot to get high, and of course you just HAVE to use the sh-word! WHY??? To prove you're a man? Gotta be all tough and cool? How crude and offensive! Do you realize there are ladies on these boards? Do you swear in real life? And do you smoke pot recreationally??
cindybin2001 1 week ago
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Why do we need a whole array drugs constructed upon cannbinoid- and THC-molecular structure, when we can experiment in breeding forth different qualities in the actual plants?
Because Big Pharma wants the money for this medicine aswell, were not going to be allowed free medicine in this world.
Wake up, there's a mafia running the show!!!
TheMellowManatee 2 months ago
0:50 Nice, but he could've rubbed margarine on his neck, and that might have worked too!
Bugstomper2 2 months ago
Fucking news teams .. conmstantly pushing like like "May" "could "possibly" .... the people who have found this out are not saying "Maybe" They are sayiing it DOES cure Cancer ffs
mrswizzful 2 months ago
@mrswizzful They have to say this because their is no SCIENTIFIC PROOF!!! You have to prove it before you can claim it when it comes to medicine.
Conquistador2112 2 months ago
@mrswizzful It is not 100%, so it is not does, it is a maybe. 1 group of people is not enough, to say a certain thing, cures Cancer.
TRYER25 2 months ago
@TRYER25 It's a diverse group of people, actually. People up in Canada have cured their cancer with cannabis oil, and two little girls with brain tumors (one was progressing in size) inhaled the cannabinoids that led to a significant reduction in the size of their brain tumors. Even people in Colorado have reported successful treatments of carcinoma with using cannabis extracts and oil. Cancer cells have CB receptors, which is why THC can kill them. Nobody is signifcantly different.
zekdom 2 months ago 9
@zekdom Well, when the world is cured of cancer by cannabis, I will retract my comment.
TRYER25 1 month ago
@TRYER25 Well, how can the world be cured with it if they never heard about the science behind it? If we already have proven that the cannabinoids consistently killed cancer cells, inhibited cancer cell growth, reduced tumor size in a dose-dependent manner, in petri dishes, test tubes, animals, and even humans, then why isn't it a fact that the cannabinoids are anti-neoplastic chemical compounds? Would it help if I gave you abstracts of peer-reviewed articles presented in medical journals?
zekdom 1 month ago
@zekdom only proved, you like writing long paragraphs to try to prove points. Bye
TRYER25 1 month ago
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Hi...do any of you know how to get the real hemp oil ? i live in Argentina...i was hoping any way to buy it online even if it is illegal and get it shipped to me...any contacts of people that are selling the real stuff?
lasand81 2 months ago
hi name mark need help hit me up at love2pillage@yahoo.com i in san diego hit me up asap mom not doing so good help me need boom and oil
ipillage1 2 months ago
@ipillage1 Hello Mark, check out the Block center in Illinois, they are hands down the best Scientifically proven cancer clinic in the US. Good luck I hope it works out, you don't have anything to loose in trying the hemp oil but you should also consult with someone at the Block Center. What kind of cancer do you have?
Conquistador2112 2 months ago
i got asshole cancer so i shoved 2 pounds of hemp oil up my ass i got high for twelve weeks :/ but my cancer dissapreared
xXTrueSShotX 2 months ago
Check out how Willie Nelson is doing @ 77. Not too shabby! You must live in an Ivory Tower...Lol!!!
mds1954 3 months ago
So many item to be made from hemp. I smoked & acquired 2 BS in science. Asinger in 37 started these lies & the gov runs with them. Scared???Yes!!!
mds1954 3 months ago
The cheesy music was just annoying!
bigcoolviking 3 months ago
Its Un-natural to try to regulate Nature
timcrow420 3 months ago
Another video to educate yourself with! Never trust prohibitionist clowns like starbobpizza! They lie through their teeth and out their ass!
The cost of the war on drugs:
watch?v=ikLIRqv0wZY
refuckulate420 3 months ago
@refuckulate420 That's the same thing as saying that WW2 cost us too much money, and so we should not have fought in that war, noob!
starbobpizza 3 months ago
@starbobpizza
LOL it's not the same thing at all, noob! You be trolling.
refuckulate420 3 months ago
@refuckulate420 It is the same thing! Both are wars, which innocent people get involved in, but it's still a war worth fighting for!
starbobpizza 3 months ago
@starbobpizza
There's no comparison and attempting to simplify it in such a manner is dishonest and foolish.
refuckulate420 3 months ago
@refuckulate420 You know it's the truth, mate.
starbobpizza 3 months ago
@starbobpizza
I know you're wrong, mate.
refuckulate420 3 months ago
@refuckulate420 Reagan did something for the American people without common sense can't possibly understand. He had his flaws like the rest of them, though. Jimmy Carter was the joke!
starbobpizza 3 months ago
"The rapists, thieves, and murderers are usually on drugs."
Yep, and they would be with our without prohibition, clown. My oh my, you are thick. Most arrests are simply possession, you know, personal use? Putting these people in prison in most cases simply makes them come out even worse a person with no chance of contributing to society.
"so why quote Einstein?"
Because he was intelligent, and intelligent people understand prohibition fails :D. Screws loose? That's you!
refuckulate420 3 months ago
The prestige of government has undoubtedly been lowered considerably by the prohibition law. For nothing is more destructive of respect for the government and the law of the land than passing laws which cannot be enforced. It is an open secret that the dangerous increase of crime in this country is closely connected with this." Albert Einstein
Well said Albert, Well said!!
Here's to ending prohibition!
refuckulate420 3 months ago
Never trust a prohibitionist clown like starbobpizza..educate yourself.
This video is a good start: watch?v=lsk8R_j5zzg&list=FLn8By-SICeO0hLu3o1N380g&index=1&feature=plpp_video
Even many in law enforcement can see that prohibition is more destructive then helpful.
refuckulate420 3 months ago
starbobpizza is just a troll. Everybody laugh at his 1930's Idealistic racist ass
timcrow420 3 months ago
Legalization would make things worse than they already are! Remember the failures of the Netherlands and the British!
starbobpizza 3 months ago
@starbobpizza
"Legalization would make things worse than they already are! "
Wrong! The drug war has succeeded in escalating the problem by funding criminals with billions of dollars and creating even more violence..ever heard of alcohol prohibition? IT WAS A PROVEN FAILURE! Focusing on incarceration rather then treatment and education is a proven failure! Our prisons are overpopulated with non-violent offenders while rapists, murderers and thieves roam free.
refuckulate420 3 months ago
@starbobpizza
"Remember the failures of the Netherlands and the British! "
Yes! Remember the failure of prohibition that the British offer despite alcohol being the countries highly favored DRUG OF CHOICE! Yes, alcohol is a drug. A regulated drug, and one of the most dangerous next to tobacco. But regulation and control is always better then criminals controlling a market you can never stop!
refuckulate420 3 months ago
@refuckulate420 Yeah, remember how heroin use in Britain actually increased after legalization/decriminalization of it, or whatever they wish to label the policy! Alcohol use skyrocketed after prohibition ended, so criminalizing it is not worse than regulating a drug and sending the wrong message to our kids! Alcohol prohibition was perceived as a failure, but proven to be otherwise once it was re-legalized. Our prisons are overpopulated with non-violent offenders? Ok, Casey Anthony supporter...
starbobpizza 3 months ago
@starbobpizza
logic? No
timcrow420 3 months ago
@timcrow420 Oh absolutely!
starbobpizza 3 months ago
@starbobpizza
Well sorry you hate personal choices and freedom's so much. You Must be a Socialist or a Fascist or a cop
timcrow420 3 months ago
@timcrow420 I'm an Independent that doesn't flock to any side like the rest of the sheep.
starbobpizza 3 months ago
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@starbobpizza
"I'm an Independent that doesn't flock to any side like the rest of the sheep".
LOL good laugh, thanks.
refuckulate420 3 months ago
@starbobpizza
No, your a Prohibitionist, you sound like you don't want People to think and decide for themselfs,how is that being Independant?
timcrow420 3 months ago
@timcrow420 Because pot heads don't think for themselves, and they fall into temptation too swiftly. It's much more difficult to just say no rather than to succumb, which is why it's so admirable to be virtuous, because it's so difficult to achieve. Still, I know a druggie that drinks alcohol and smokes marijuana couldn't understand basic virtue ethics...Anyway, I'm an Independent because I can think for myself!
starbobpizza 3 months ago
@starbobpizza
You make it sound like every marijuana smoker is the same, But the last 3 presidents we have had smoked marijuana, Steve Jobs, Ted Turner, many successful people smoke, hell Montell Williams on day time TV smokes. You have this way of making marijuana sound so awful, its really kinda sad you beleive that. Im going to go smoke a joint in my back yard and mind my own business, its a shame not everyone is able to do that. Its not because im weak, its because I WANT TO
timcrow420 3 months ago
@timcrow420 Smoked, as in past tense, not on a daily basis...That we know of. It's very possible that Bush smoked marijuana on a regular basis, which is why he was one of the worst presidents ever! If you had other forms of pleasure that were less harmful, then why would you need to smoke marijuana? Because you're weak and a sheep. Pure and simple.
starbobpizza 3 months ago
@starbobpizza
Bush is way better than Obama dude
timcrow420 3 months ago
@timcrow420 Bwahahahahahaha Ahahahahahaha Ah Ha...Pointless :)
starbobpizza 3 months ago
@starbobpizza
Ok, well It doesn't surprise me you support Obama. An under expierenced President, A man that has never been in the military telling the military where to go, cutting their paycheck (I have many relatives in the Army and Marines, and they have valid reasons why they hate him) Obama care, breaking his promises saying he would never have the Fed's raiding state ran Marijuana dispenseries. The list goes on, he is a communist
timcrow420 3 months ago
@timcrow420 No, son, you misunderstand. I'm laughing on how you think that Bush, who instilled the Patriot Act that violates the 4th Amendment, is any different than Obama, who allowed the Patriot Act to remain intact. Not to mention, both of them bankrupted this country into oblivion! Like I said, you're a sheep that believes that presidents are different...Well, they're not! :) At least for the past decade. I miss the glory days of Reagan and Eisenhower...Please come back, you guys!!!
starbobpizza 3 months ago
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timcrow420 3 months ago
@starbobpizza
trickle-down economics -- failure
trees pollute the air -- lie
war on drugs -- joke
supporting saddam -- are u kidding me?
timcrow420 3 months ago
@timcrow420 Every president had his flaws, but you can't deny what they did do.
starbobpizza 3 months ago
@starbobpizza
Reagan was a joke of a president...very overrated.
refuckulate420 3 months ago
@starbobpizza
"Alcohol use skyrocketed after prohibition ended"
Actually, no it didn't. Alcohol use rose greatly during prohibition, so did alcohol related deaths. The age at which drinking habits were formed were younger. Stop trying to lie, you ignorant clown of a fraud.
Although no one could tell the consumption rates exactly because alcohol sales weren't reported...Al Capone and gangs didn't pay taxes on their sales so they couldn't be tracked. Alcohol prohibition WAS a failure
refuckulate420 3 months ago
@refuckulate420 (1) Actually, during the first few years of prohibition, alcohol use stabilized, but rose significantly after the last half of the prohibition of alcohol years. Then, it skyrocketed after alcohol prohibition ended, as did intoxicated individual automobile accidents. Yup, and guess how many bars opened up all over the USA after it was made legal? Yup, the number of bars selling alcohol skyrocketed to the millions. Don't believe me? Go to New York and Texas, for starters.
starbobpizza 3 months ago
@starbobpizza
You just don't get it. People are going to use either way, people have a right to make that decision. The best we can do is to educate and offer treatment to those who will take it. Our resources are much better spent on education and our law enforcement time is much better spent going after rapists, murderers, thieves etc. You can't have it both ways. I'm sorry but you ignorant prohibitionist clowns don't get that decriminalisation/legalization is a matter of time.
refuckulate420 3 months ago
@refuckulate420 Wow, I never thought an Irish, pope fanboy would ever say "education" in a sentence! The rapists, thieves, and murderers are usually on drugs. So, people are going to have a problem with that. Get your eyes checked and see if your retinas are damaged, young soul. By the way, we found something faster than the speed of light, so why quote Einstein? He had a few screws loose, if you smell what I'm tasting.
starbobpizza 3 months ago
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XxXHouseOfPainXxX 3 months ago
@starbobpizza Einsteins loose screws allowed him to understand/comprehend/innovate what you do in you lifetime, in a couple seconds. hows that for a hot cup of TEa H c you sheeple troll!! Dont diss the great einstein, for his time his thoughts were sublime. Boo yah.
XxXHouseOfPainXxX 3 months ago
@starbobpizza Just playing, i saw your comment with regards to tim crow blending into the crowd. Cheers mate.
XxXHouseOfPainXxX 3 months ago
@XxXHouseOfPainXxX Right on, my felllow Scottish counterpart whose goal is to catch the world in the headlights of our justice!
starbobpizza 3 months ago
@starbobpizza
The problem with alcohol prohibition is they realized it couldn't be enforced and that even IF less people use alcohol, the destructive nature of the black market it created was far worse. The crime it created, and all those untaxable dollars on sales that coudn't be tracked. Not to mention the resources wasted in the futile effort to stop it.
refuckulate420 3 months ago
@starbobpizza
The law could not quell the continuing demand for alcoholic products. Thus, where legal enterprises could no longer supply the demand, an illicit traffic developed, from the point of manufacture to consumption. The institution of the speakeasy replaced the institution of the saloon. Estimates of the number of speakeasies throughout the United States ranged from 200,000 to 500,000.
Alcohol prohibition created gangs, violence and people still drank... a lot. You are a liar.
refuckulate420 3 months ago
@starbobpizza
Furthermore...education and awareness programs have shown to decrease tobacco use among teens, despite its legality and open advertisement.
You are an ignorant clown and a joke. No one wants to live in the backwards society you want to push upon others. Next thing we know clowns like you will be trying to tell people what they can eat too.
refuckulate420 3 months ago
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@starbobpizza
It is the failure of free markets and Reaganomics that is driving up the prices of oil, food and just about everything else. Instead of making markets efficient, free market policies such as deregulation have made special interests richer and made the majority of people vulnerable to market manipulations by speculators and large corporations.
timcrow420 3 months ago
Dealers don't care who they get their money from...it's much easier for a teenager to score drugs then it is for them to acquire tobacco or alcohol, because these are regulated and carry heavy penalties for distribution to minors.
You like prohibition? You like funding criminals and the violence associated with the drug trade!
refuckulate420 3 months ago
@refuckulate420 Most of criminals are under the influence of hard drugs, and marijuana is the stepping stone to hard drug use, you crusty bastard! There is a need for federal power. Remeber the "Articles of Confederation" era? Anyway, only 70% of teens actually agrees that it's easier to get their drugs from the store than going out of their way to meet a shady drug dealer. Since, all they have to do is to get their 21 year old friend to get their drugs for them, albeit with their money.
starbobpizza 3 months ago
The police have used the drug war as an excuse to violate the rights of non-vioent offenders and even innocents..it's expanded the power of federal police and the spending doesn't stop.....even with a faltering economy and education system!
TREATMENT is PROVEN to be more effective then incarceration, considering drug availabilty and profitability is still very high even after more then 40 years of this failed drug war and overpopulated prisons!
refuckulate420 3 months ago
These raids bring unnecessary violence and provocation to nonviolent drug offenders, many of whom were guilty of only misdemeanors. The raids terrorize innocents when police mistakenly target the wrong residence. And they have resulted in dozens of needless deaths and injuries, not only of drug offenders, but also of police officers, children, bystanders, and innocent suspects.
refuckulate420 3 months ago
Someone doesn't understand how statistics work!
More facts! Plenty of them showing how destructive the drug war is! Don't trust a prohibitionist like starbobpizza!
increasingly frequent raids, 40,000 per year by one estimate, are needlessly subjecting nonviolent drug offenders, bystanders, and wrongly targeted civilians to the terror of having their homes invaded while they’re sleeping, usually by teams of heavily armed paramilitary units dressed not as police officers but as soldiers.
refuckulate420 3 months ago
The AMA in the US has proven that cannabis does have positive medicinal properties!!! Yet the FDA will not allow it to be prescribed. Why? Because it would cause the pharmaceutical companies to back off on their gold mine drugs that they depend on. Besides, if you are dying of an incurable ailment, why not let the patient have whatever they need to alieve suffering! Is it worst than opium????
mds1954 3 months ago
@mds1954 Part 2... We already have the thing that makes cannabis therapeutic isolated and legal! Marinol! Heroin has medicinal properties, too. And yes, we already have the synthetic version of heroin and the synthetic version of the cannabinoids, so that's not an issue. Since, pot heads just want to smoke it to get high. Anyway, the government already has a patent on cannabis, Patent no. 6630507. We just don't want people to smoke it, because marinol is just as therapeutic.
starbobpizza 3 months ago
A study by the Washington State Institute for Public Policy found that every dollar spent on drug treatment in the community yields over $18 in cost savings related to crime.23 In comparison, prisons only yield $.37 in public safety benefit per dollar spent. Releasing people to supervision and making treatment accessible is an effective way of reducing problematic drug use, reducing crime associated with drug use and reducing the number of people in prison
refuckulate420 3 months ago
Substance-involved people have come to compose a large portion of the prison population. Substance use may play a role in the commission of certain crimes: approximately 16 percent of people in state prison and 18 percent of people in federal prison reported committing their crimes to obtain money for drugs.21 Treatment delivered in the community is one of the most cost-effective ways to prevent such crimes and costs approximately $20,000 less than incarceration per person per year.
refuckulate420 3 months ago
Incarceration Rate per 100,000 population 2002 US 701 NETHERLANDS 100
Homicide rate per 100,000 population Average 1999-2001 US 5.56 NETHERLANDS 1.51
Hmm..this 1 trillion dollar+ drug war is really proving ineffective according to the facts.
Remember...when our resources weren't focused on arresting and incarcerating drug users, our rate for solving crimes like homicide, rape, burglary and robbery were higher. These are crimes that actually have victims.
refuckulate420 3 months ago
"Marijuana use skyrocketed more so than when it was illegal"
The Netherlands does not differ greatly from other European countries. In contrast, a comparison with the US shows a striking difference in this area: 32.9% of Americans aged 12 and above have experience with cannabis and 5.1% have used in the past month. These figures are twice as high as those in the Netherlands."
Infact drug and alcohol use in general in the U.S. is much higher desptie 1 TRILLION spent on the drug war.
refuckulate420 3 months ago
@refuckulate420 2) I have, however, proved how legalization would be worse than the current prohibition methods. Since, legalization equals commercialization that has been proven to increase drug use to an exponential extent. I've presented the Institute of Medicine's report, the British Journal of Psychiatry 2001, the Addictive Behaviors Journal 2002, the British Journal of Psychiatry 2010, and the Archives of General Psychiatry 2001. You have not proven that legalization would reduce drug use.
starbobpizza 3 months ago
@starbobpizza
So how do you justify that cost?
"You have not proven that legalization would reduce drug use."
What I have proven and will continue to prove is that treating drug use as a criminal issue rather then a health one is ineffective, costly and even destructive.
Lifetime prevalence of marijuana use (ages 12+) 2001 US :36.9% NETHERLANDS: 17.0%
Lifetime prevalence of heroin use (ages 12+) 2001 US: 1.4% NETHERLANDS: 0.4%
Looks like the facts disagree.
refuckulate420 3 months ago
@refuckulate420 The Netherlands doesn't have as many people as the U.S., and please cite your sources, you Irish bog bastard of a pot head! My facts are actual, because they are backed up by medical journals and surveys. Even so, if you paid attention, then you would've seen that marijuana use only reduced after the commercialization of pot was reduced. So, they had to cut back, because it became such a significant problem. Look up how the British failed the "disease" policy concerning drugs.
starbobpizza 3 months ago
"I've presented well over 5-6 facts, and you have only provided 2"
No you haven't. All you've pushed is propaganda...you have provided absolutely ZERO facts as to how the drug war has been successful. I've provided plenty of data as to how prohibition has only escalated the problem and I will provide more soon. Keep trying starbobpizza and I'll continue to make you look like the ignorant clown you are, I won't give up in the face of ignorance and propaganda pushed by idiot clowns like you.
refuckulate420 3 months ago
Just to be clear, if knowledge is beauty, then I am prettier than this Irish bog bastard!
starbobpizza 3 months ago
More facts for prohibitions CLOWNS like starbobpizza:
% of population addicted in 1914 1.3%
% of population addicted in 1970 1.3%
% of population addicted after 2000 1.3%
Heroin overdose rate per 100,000 users in 1979 28 deaths
Herois overdose rate per 100,000 users in 2000 141 deaths
DAMN! That drug war works sooo well!
In 1963 we solved 91% of murders...
Today we solve only 61%! That's with an increase of prison population AND MURDERS WITH THE DRUG WAR! FACTS!
refuckulate420 3 months ago
@refuckulate420 The purity would've risen faster if it were legal, which is a fact. By the way, Britain tried to decriminalize heroin in the 90's, and the policy failed. So, they went back to rescheduling heroin to a dangerous drug again. Oh dear son of justice, it would do you some good to learn about the world before you form opinions backed up by irrelevant fact. I've presented well over 5-6 facts, and you have only provided 2. So what does that say about the proponents of drug legalization?
starbobpizza 3 months ago
@starbobpizza
"The purity would've risen faster if it were legal"
How so? I've clearly demonstrated otherwise, you have not.
"Britain tried to decriminalize heroin in the 90's"
three-quarters of the U.K.’s expenditure on drug-related problems is devoted to enforcement and international supply reduction, but that there is little evidence that the money is well spent.
This is a statement from the Royal College of Physicians in the UK. Drug use is a health issue, not a crime one.
refuckulate420 3 months ago
@refuckulate420 "How so? I've clearly demonstrated otherwise, you have not."
You have demonstrated nothing. Remember the little fiasco in the Netherlands that many medical journals reported on when the Dutch commercialized marijuana? Marijuana use skyrocketed more so than when it was illegal. One organization consisting of physician's opinions means nothing. They live in nice, comfortable neighborhoods with their decent paycheck, while the common folk has to deal with the drug users everyday.
starbobpizza 3 months ago
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@refuckulate420 Part 3... If the provided information is propoganda:Institute of Medicine's report, the British Journal of Psychiatry 2001, the Addictive Behaviors Journal 2002, the British Journal of Psychiatry 2010, and the Archives of General Psychiatry 2001...Then how is the Royal College of Physicians in the UK not propoganda? Are you resorting to cherry picking, mate? If so, then you have already lost all credibility, and your arguments wouldn't hold up in an actual debate. Sweet dreams!
starbobpizza 3 months ago
Government again is eating shit ! Give the people what the people want..The governments of this world is exploiting the citizens
Serkant75 3 months ago
Strange, I pressed "Enter" twice between each category. Oh well, at least you pot heads will be able to read a post similar to how your grammatical skills turn out :D
starbobpizza 4 months ago
They were going to get a life, but then they got high. They were going to get a Chevy, but then they got high, so very high ~~ They were going to stay in school, but then they got high, got so high! They were going to be productive members of society, but then they got high~~So high and mighty that their egos imploded with fallacies! So high~~~
Say no to drugs!
starbobpizza 4 months ago
Big bucks coffee and pizza is what capitalist coperate ingnorant pigs consume.
Calling people losers all the time and accusing people of being potheads,i personally dont think or would accuse everyone online of being something without any evidence.Evidence being the key word,of which you lack,aswell as common sense.JOKER
RUN FROM THE CURE.I AM A FREE SOVERIGN PERSON /UNDER COMMON LAW.PSget a job star bob,or are you wasting tax payers money?LMAO
Bye everyone,good luck with this fool.
mraksuperk 4 months ago
@mraksuperk Better than you incoherent, needy people who live off of nothing but the government and the people's tax dollars and the drugs that you all sell. Again, there is a pot head mentality, and one does not need to smoke it to be stupid and ignorant. Evidence? The way your grammatical skills are being posted appears to be proof enough. Common sense dictates that any smoke and any memory-impairing chemical compound is detrimental to one's long-term health. Education first, then sovereignty!
starbobpizza 4 months ago
@starbobpizza
"Better than you incoherent, needy people who live off of nothing but the government and the people's tax dollars"
Yet you want to use the peoples tax dollars to wage a war against people for a victimless "crime". You have insults, and immature generalizations, but you've yet to make a single cogent argument. By the way, I have a car, a job and have been working hard since I was 16. By the looks of it I have a better education then you too.
refuckulate420 4 months ago
@refuckulate420 Continued... I wish to wage the war on crime, which the majority of arrested criminals are under the influence of! The Canadian Medical Association Journal 2002, the study you presented, reports that moderate users did not receive a decrease of IQ, but the heavy users did experience a decrease in IQ. Not to mention, the impaired memory.
I've made several cogent arguments, noob. Dig it:
-Schizophrenia and/or temporary mental retardation of which is chronic among pot heads.
starbobpizza 4 months ago
@starbobpizza
"I've made several cogent arguments, noob. Dig it:"
You're an immature child and a troll. Dig it.
refuckulate420 4 months ago
@refuckulate420 Connect the dots, brah
1. According to Marijuana and Medicine: Assessing the Science Base, a report by the Institute of Medicine, commercialization of pot in the Netherlands led to an increase in use, and a reduction of commercialization led to a reduction of pot use. So, that proves that legalizing would lead to commercialization, which would lead to more drug users and more health problems.
2. Making excuses to get high is pathetic. You should be fighting to outlaw alcohol!
starbobpizza 4 months ago
@starbobpizza
"So, that proves that legalizing would lead to commercialization, which would lead to more drug users and more health problems."
Your entire argument is based on that? LOL man, thanks for the laugh.
"You should be fighting to outlaw alcohol!"
Yes let's drive alcohol sales into a black market where it can't be taxed and regulated, too! Because prohibition of alcohol worked so well. You are out of my mind. Come up with a cogent argument or stop wasting my time.
refuckulate420 4 months ago
@refuckulate420 It only failed because we didn't have good drug combatting strategies.
"Your entire argument is based on that? LOL man"
Well, you have just proven that you drug pushers shouldn't be taken seriously. Additionally, I just trumped your whole argument, son! By legalizing drugs, it would make things worse for the common man. That is the point! Analyze the cost vs benefit analysis, and do the math of what the penalties would be compared to now! Go play with your fantasies, Bachmann!
starbobpizza 4 months ago
@starbobpizza
"Well, you have just proven that you drug pushers shouldn't be taken seriously"
No, I think you've proven that YOU can't be taken seriously. You troll, you insult and you have consistently made childish remarks.
You have no arguments, you've proven that.
"I just trumped your whole argument, son!"
Lmao, you are such a clown.
refuckulate420 4 months ago
@refuckulate420 "You have no arguments, you've proven that."
Did Delta9-Tetrahydrocannabinol agonize your CB1 receptors again, lad? That, or it's probably because you're an Irish bug bastard. Maybe both? Shall I yet again prove that legalization would lead to more health problems, which would be detrimental to the functionality of societies? What would happen if your body was burned? Would your ashes turn green?
starbobpizza 4 months ago
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@starbobpizza LOL, you are a joke and a propagandist.
WinkyMaeve 4 months ago
@starbobpizza
"Shall I yet again prove that legalization would lead to more health problems"
Shall I yet again prove that people have a right to choose what they put in their bodies?
You said that you'd support prohibition against alcohol and tobacco...still waiting for how that would be done, how it would be payed for and how it is a greater benefit to society then its current regulated status.
Alcohol kills over 70,000 per year(US)
tobacco about 443,000 deaths per year(US)
refuckulate420 4 months ago
@refuckulate420 Continued... See?
starbobpizza 3 months ago
@starbobpizza
"Did Delta9-Tetrahydrocannabinol agonize your CB1 receptors again, lad?"
Damn! Look at you struggle for something to say! Thanks for the laugh, lad.
refuckulate420 4 months ago
@refuckulate420 Only lads are uneducated, which is the case for you. Do you know what the CB1 receptor is, and what happens if it's agonized? It's basic science, you know...Well, It causes memory impairment. I just shortened it for you, but I should've taken the time to explain that. And for talking intelligently around you, I apologize.
Anyway, I say we combine the sociocultural model and the Biological model when deterring drug use. Cite your source, pot head. Or did you forget to do that?
starbobpizza 4 months ago
@starbobpizza
I don't even smoke pot anymore..but I still support legalization of soft drugs and decriminalization of hard drugs. It's only a matter of time actually, you are on the losing side. Your draconian way of thinking is on the way out. Man you are a clown. Still so unwilling to support your position and unwilling to face the fact that prohibition creates a profit incentive for criminals and increases access to young people.
refuckulate420 3 months ago
@refuckulate420 Prohibition does create a black market, but as I have constantly proven to you, legalization would make things worse. Key word: Worse. Only clowns barely present any facts, which is something you excel in! I'll continue to present the empirical data that legalization would make things worse by significantly increasing use of any drug. Anyway, I say we combine the Sociocultural model and the Biological model to deter alcohol and tobacco use. As I stated in my previous post.
starbobpizza 3 months ago
@starbobpizza
that makes no sense what so ever, I already smoke marijuana everyday, sometimes a whole 8th, if it was legalized I would be doing exactly what I am now, I know it sounds crazy to someone that DOESNT SMOKE IN THE FIRST PLACE. So stick to what you know
timcrow420 3 months ago
@timcrow420 Well obviously, a law breaker will continue to partake in an unlawful act if it was made legal. Legalization would make things worse. Anybody that takes Advertising 101 knows that commercialization leads to an increase, more so than when it was illegal. "Marijuana and Medicine: Assessing the Science Base," a report by the Institute of Medicine, commercialization of pot in the Netherlands led to an increase in use, and a reduction of commercialization led to a reduction of pot use.
starbobpizza 3 months ago
@starbobpizza
I just don't understand what the difference is, I can just go to my neighbor and bring him 250 dollars a week or I could go to the gas station and buy it, if anything if it was legal we might have some job oppurtunities, farming, growing, care taking, business, and like you said advertisement, Marijuana isn't killing people like other legal stuff out there is, cholesteral, nicotine, etc
timcrow420 3 months ago
@timcrow420 Duly noted, good sir. Still, please understand that marijuana may not kill ya, but it makes you apathetic to the point where you may as well be dead.
starbobpizza 3 months ago
@starbobpizza
stop lying to me dude, I just got back from a halloween party, I smoked 4 bowls and had 5 beers, I had drunk girls stumbling into my every 15 seconds, 4 of my friends threw up and I ended up being a designated driver, I helped alot of fucking people because I wasnt screwed up on liquor. So you cant really tell me anything to agree with you, Ive seen and lived the truth, I doubt you have ever smoked a day in your life, so how could you know anything about it?
timcrow420 3 months ago
@starbobpizza
"but it makes you apathetic to the point where you may as well be dead."\
Nah you ignorant clown. There are a ton of successful marijuana users out there. People who are lazy and apathetic are going to be that way with or without weed.
Prohibitions: Supporting criminals and wasting taxpayer money for 70+ years.
refuckulate420 3 months ago
@starbobpizza
"legalization would make things worse. Key word: Worse"
How could it be worse then creating a multi-billion dollar profit incentive for criminals and the violence assosciated with that market? You really are dense, you refuse to see the other side.
Treatment and education have proven far more effective in dealing with drug use then incarceration. Everyone saw was prohibition did with alcohol. Legalizing made it BETTER..because it was REGULATED.
YOU LOSE.WE WIN, clown.
refuckulate420 3 months ago
@refuckulate420 As do you, and I have already seen the other side of total opinions with the occasional fact. If conservative Republicans would cease to support the war in the Middle East and call the troops back home, then we can have all of them close to home patrolling the border to prevent any more Mexican drug cartels from entering the USA. Actually, alcohol use skyrocketed after prohibition ended, and drunk driving rates have increased, more so than when it was illegal. Nice caps, hun :)
starbobpizza 3 months ago
@starbobpizza
"then we can have all of them close to home patrolling the border to prevent any more Mexican drug cartels from entering the USA"
That's not going to do it, I'm afraid. That would be a very poor attempt at controlling the problem and cost billions of dollars we don't have to spend. Remember we've already spent 1 TRILLION on the drug war with no results.
"and drunk driving rates have increased"
Here's a fun fact: Alcohol related accidents are HIGHER in dry counties.
refuckulate420 3 months ago
@starbobpizza
"Nice caps, hun :)"
Thank you, sweety.
Want some more facts? In 1980 heroin prices were more expensive and the heroin was much less pure.
We are talking 3.6% purity. As the drug war carried on, heroin became cheaper and VERY pure. So not only do we have MUCH cheaper heroin as the drug war carried on...as of 1999 the purity had reached about 40%..keep in mind heroin is no less available then it was then. Heroin purity hasn't dropped as of 2011, it has risen. Facts :)
refuckulate420 3 months ago