good how to videos. but, two questions. you never covered how to adjust the pump 1. How do you do that? 2. I am putting a pump on the runoff tube from my spring water holding tank. It is a very good spring with a strong runoff flow. if i put this style of pump on I believe I run the risk of the it shutting down the runoff and having my tank overfill. Will the water continuously drain if the pump isnt going?
can it pump back to its water source, if so you can create free energy, simply stick.. lets say 3 phase brushless hub with a pelton wheel for the water to turn.
I have a little design using the ram pump to pump water BACK into a top resevoir, which its falling from the top resevoir running thro a pipe turning a hydroelectric motor then falling into the bottom resevoir then falling to the ram pump and around the cycle again. does this sound possible, recon_2ndforce@yahoo.com
great explanation of hydraulic ram pumps altogether many thanks. Can you tell me how many metres will the pump be capable pumping water up hill per meter of fall please explain sincere thanks my email address is jimkavangh@yahoo.co.uk
In your opening statement you said that you would show how to install and build a ram pump.I saw the install part but did not see the build the ram pump part. Is it hidden somewhere else?
Great video. I appreciate your willingness to share your knowledge! Currently, I only have between 2-3 of fall between my water source and where I can place the ram. I only need to fill a few 55 gal drums to provide drip irrigation for a small garden. Drums would be approx 10 feet above the ram. Will my current fall allow this scenario to work? Thanks much!
@humblecarpenter Thank you sir! do me a favor and tell me the elevation from the bridge to the highest place you could set a tank on your property. We want to have good water pressure from the tank. Can get you the RP-300 for $550 if you pick it up in Nantikote. otherwise it will cost 100 more for shipping per Justin at RIFE. water the pigs, chickens dogs and kids for free (almost). You'll need to run 1/2" PVC sch 40 to the tank I'd say about $75 worth. Test it all on top of ground first!
the 1440 part probably threw some people off because most people dont realize that there are 1440 min in a day. remember that not everyone is familiar with converting units. I really like the white board approach but I would suggest writing down units so no one gets lost. Great video! again this is definitely my favorite channel
I had a family member in Indiana who built one of these out of an old drive shaft and an engine valve. It pumped water from his spring up to the cistern beside his house. It only delivered about 1/2 gallon an hour, but it met all their household needs AND allowed them to "soak" the garden when everyone else's garden was burning up in the summer. Great post, thank you! :)
@dougdobbs That's great! There are so many ways to build a ram and using one to pump from a spring is the best of both worlds. Pumping Potable water without electricity!
@SmutFi No the ram won't stop and you will have to have a place for overflow or return it to the source. That is what I do after my 1600 gal tank is full. Starting and stopping the ram is no big deal either. Take care!
Ok, i've got a 65' dug well next to the dairy barn with a water level about 25-35 feet down. On a drought year it's down 50 feet. Will this ram pump method work there too?
@Derf2258 If the fall is up to 15' multiply by 6 - in the video I used 10' as an example and therefore the drive pipe would be 60' , if is was 15 then yes it would be 90. I wrote 10 on the board but it was pretty small. I need to write larger for the videos to follow! Thanks for your comment.
Great job Dude. I'm not understanding the necessity for the relationship between fall and drive pipe length. At the bottom of a pond dam for example, you could have 20' of fall over a short distance (very steep terrain in this instance). Why is it necessary to have 4xF of drive pipe, if the bottom of the pond dam can be reached with say 50' of pipe... increasing that to 80' would normally only increase friction inefficiency.
@GoatHollow The relationship between fall and drive pipe length has been found empirically over that last 200 years of experimentation. The goal is to maximize pressure at the waste valve, maximize the momentum of the water coming to the pump. As the fall increases so does the potential energy and the acceleration of the water. It is a complicated little problem to model as it is affected by material elasticity, acoustic wave speed and pipe size etc. The empirical tables have worked well!
Do you use a feedback line so that cycling flow is constant through tank, seems that way you would always have cooler or fresher water at the tank location. Depending on the circumstances it would seem that you could add a miro hydor to that system as well and provide an additional 24 7 500 to 1k watt power with very little friction loss.
@jplerwill I do have a feedback line from my tank as it greatly reduce the amount of algae. So whether I am pumping with solar or ram or both I have a continual cycling of the water. In order to do hydro you need a lot more water than the rams can supply. My calculations tell me it is not a good use of resources. You could cun for short stretches of time maybe to charge a battery but the amount of for a peltier turbine far exceeds what I can pump. Thanks for asking!
Im just a simple plumber rather than an engineer, but this all made great sense to me. Thank you for the great info. Do you only use swing checks, rather than regulating springs?
good how to videos. but, two questions. you never covered how to adjust the pump 1. How do you do that? 2. I am putting a pump on the runoff tube from my spring water holding tank. It is a very good spring with a strong runoff flow. if i put this style of pump on I believe I run the risk of the it shutting down the runoff and having my tank overfill. Will the water continuously drain if the pump isnt going?
torr58 3 weeks ago
I thought 6 x 15 was 90. ;-}
Also writing units next to numbers is helpful.
Thanks for all you do for this community. We love you man.
gloorbit 1 month ago
can it pump back to its water source, if so you can create free energy, simply stick.. lets say 3 phase brushless hub with a pelton wheel for the water to turn.
trcourville420 2 months ago
I have a little design using the ram pump to pump water BACK into a top resevoir, which its falling from the top resevoir running thro a pipe turning a hydroelectric motor then falling into the bottom resevoir then falling to the ram pump and around the cycle again. does this sound possible, recon_2ndforce@yahoo.com
trcourville420 2 months ago
do you think you could rig up a small version to work with hydroponics or aquaponics?
MyAmericanSafari 5 months ago
great explanation of hydraulic ram pumps altogether many thanks. Can you tell me how many metres will the pump be capable pumping water up hill per meter of fall please explain sincere thanks my email address is jimkavangh@yahoo.co.uk
xoxcurlygirlyxox 5 months ago
anyone else say "poor fish" when he explained that one got sucked in and got extruded?lol
flamedrag18 6 months ago
How do I contact you about hand drilling a well?
lking88h 6 months ago
@lking88h you mean how to do it? he's got videos up showing how they do it.
flamedrag18 6 months ago
In your opening statement you said that you would show how to install and build a ram pump.I saw the install part but did not see the build the ram pump part. Is it hidden somewhere else?
purerwater 10 months ago
Thank you so much for taking the time to share all your knowledge! It is very appreciated!
lukeroeser 11 months ago
Great video. I appreciate your willingness to share your knowledge! Currently, I only have between 2-3 of fall between my water source and where I can place the ram. I only need to fill a few 55 gal drums to provide drip irrigation for a small garden. Drums would be approx 10 feet above the ram. Will my current fall allow this scenario to work? Thanks much!
patriots1needed 1 year ago
Man that was an awesome explanation of a complex subject. If your not a teacher you should be.
jwelch9004 1 year ago
excellent explanation, what about in the winter when it freezes?
goat20101 1 year ago
Great video Scott...er uh 775. I am going for the rife river ram for my creek. I need to pester you more for calculations. Good stuff. Bless you
humblecarpenter 1 year ago
@humblecarpenter Thank you sir! do me a favor and tell me the elevation from the bridge to the highest place you could set a tank on your property. We want to have good water pressure from the tank. Can get you the RP-300 for $550 if you pick it up in Nantikote. otherwise it will cost 100 more for shipping per Justin at RIFE. water the pigs, chickens dogs and kids for free (almost). You'll need to run 1/2" PVC sch 40 to the tank I'd say about $75 worth. Test it all on top of ground first!
engineer775 1 year ago
Great vid. Thanks for laying it out on the board. Thumbs up!
brcron007 1 year ago
Excellent video!! Thanks for taking the time to teach this.
tikkalongrifle 1 year ago
the 1440 part probably threw some people off because most people dont realize that there are 1440 min in a day. remember that not everyone is familiar with converting units. I really like the white board approach but I would suggest writing down units so no one gets lost. Great video! again this is definitely my favorite channel
trenttyre 1 year ago
@trenttyre Thanks! I will explain the 1440 in Pt2. Nice to have another engineer keeping me straight!
engineer775 1 year ago
I had a family member in Indiana who built one of these out of an old drive shaft and an engine valve. It pumped water from his spring up to the cistern beside his house. It only delivered about 1/2 gallon an hour, but it met all their household needs AND allowed them to "soak" the garden when everyone else's garden was burning up in the summer. Great post, thank you! :)
dougdobbs 1 year ago
@dougdobbs That's great! There are so many ways to build a ram and using one to pump from a spring is the best of both worlds. Pumping Potable water without electricity!
engineer775 1 year ago
If the storage tank gets full, will that stop the ram? If so, do you have to do anything to restart it? Thanks for your time.
SmutFi 1 year ago
@SmutFi No the ram won't stop and you will have to have a place for overflow or return it to the source. That is what I do after my 1600 gal tank is full. Starting and stopping the ram is no big deal either. Take care!
engineer775 1 year ago
Excellent video, looking forward to the video on pumps for deeper wells 100' or more.
windsock777 1 year ago
Any questions...LOL Clear as mud man....no really this is great instruction, I'm looking forward to part 2.
okieprepper 1 year ago
looking forward to part 2.
kenwilson63 1 year ago
Ok, i've got a 65' dug well next to the dairy barn with a water level about 25-35 feet down. On a drought year it's down 50 feet. Will this ram pump method work there too?
jasonmushersee 1 year ago
@jasonmushersee Nope. A RAM won't work in a well. A solar well pump or a hand pump would work. Thanks for asking.
engineer775 1 year ago
Great info Bro, thanx!
ewetubesuxass 1 year ago
If your fall is 15' at 6x the fall it's 90' not 60'?
Derf2258 1 year ago
@Derf2258 If the fall is up to 15' multiply by 6 - in the video I used 10' as an example and therefore the drive pipe would be 60' , if is was 15 then yes it would be 90. I wrote 10 on the board but it was pretty small. I need to write larger for the videos to follow! Thanks for your comment.
engineer775 1 year ago
excellent.......added to favs.......will vid response today my friend
ironhead41 1 year ago
@ironhead41 My pleasure! I approved your vid response but I don't see it showing up.??? Thanks for the really great shout out!
engineer775 1 year ago
Great job Dude. I'm not understanding the necessity for the relationship between fall and drive pipe length. At the bottom of a pond dam for example, you could have 20' of fall over a short distance (very steep terrain in this instance). Why is it necessary to have 4xF of drive pipe, if the bottom of the pond dam can be reached with say 50' of pipe... increasing that to 80' would normally only increase friction inefficiency.
GoatHollow 1 year ago
@GoatHollow The relationship between fall and drive pipe length has been found empirically over that last 200 years of experimentation. The goal is to maximize pressure at the waste valve, maximize the momentum of the water coming to the pump. As the fall increases so does the potential energy and the acceleration of the water. It is a complicated little problem to model as it is affected by material elasticity, acoustic wave speed and pipe size etc. The empirical tables have worked well!
engineer775 1 year ago
Do you use a feedback line so that cycling flow is constant through tank, seems that way you would always have cooler or fresher water at the tank location. Depending on the circumstances it would seem that you could add a miro hydor to that system as well and provide an additional 24 7 500 to 1k watt power with very little friction loss.
jplerwill 1 year ago
@jplerwill micro hydro, sorry
jplerwill 1 year ago
@jplerwill I do have a feedback line from my tank as it greatly reduce the amount of algae. So whether I am pumping with solar or ram or both I have a continual cycling of the water. In order to do hydro you need a lot more water than the rams can supply. My calculations tell me it is not a good use of resources. You could cun for short stretches of time maybe to charge a battery but the amount of for a peltier turbine far exceeds what I can pump. Thanks for asking!
engineer775 1 year ago
Im just a simple plumber rather than an engineer, but this all made great sense to me. Thank you for the great info. Do you only use swing checks, rather than regulating springs?
jplerwill 1 year ago
@jplerwill I use the spring checks for their simplicity and that you can adjust the amount of water easily which I will show in next video.
engineer775 1 year ago
hmmm i wana try this just for the hell of it thanks great vid
DCC350 1 year ago
Respond to this video...Your welcome! Go for it they are a lot of fun!
engineer775 1 year ago