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  • to the guys arguing, Mclarin F1.

  • 8:05 Koenigvuuuuh

  • i want it!!

  • 7:26, Koenigaegiogi

  • wow jeremy....i respected you till i saw your dumb fucking shirt.

  • @Rafflersauce rofl me to! lmao

  • you 2 arguing shut up and look up the SSC ultimate aero and SSC Thrust

  • times against me. They tested the ZR1 at 7:38. That is admittedly slower than what GM tested it at, but Porsche's factory times are faster than Sport Auto's as well. If American manufacturers are doing what you claim they are, it seems as if other manufacturers are doing the same thing.

  • Nurburgring is the time in which a car lapped the track.

    Feel free to debate anything I've just said mate. It's always good to have someone test the beliefs I have, even those I hold for cars. I've changed my thoughts on a subject before, just so you know. haha

  • making for easy comparison. Does that sort of thing have to happen on Nordschleife? No. If I could look up lap times from stock cars done at F1 tracks, I would do so. However, if many makers started that, I'm sure the likes of Ferrari would still hold out, just because that's how they roll, and they really have earned the right to do so.

    Speaking of the actual lap times, they aren't "fake". Perhaps comparing cars to one another would be done better on a shorter track, but a confirmed time at

  • No the Nurburgring lap times arent fake. But the cars are. There is no official governing of these Ring times. The cars might easily be customised from racing tyres to rollcage and tuned engines. The whole point of the Nurburgring is that its a public track where you can show up and see what your car can do. Americans showed up with modded cars and full factory race teams for the purpose of generating hype. A showroom car doesnt have a chance in hell at those claimed "records" and lap times.

  • The Cobra Daytona was 1965 I believe. Its sad if you have to dig that far back to find an american supercar attempt. When I say that I cant find a single viable supercar out of USA, Im well aware of the S7, the ridiculous Vector and similar attempts but.. They arent viable. They are here today and dead tomorrow. Europe is full of them. Koenigsegg and Zonda are 2 recent brands that made it. There are lots more that dont make it. In USA they seem to do tuneshop versions of exsisting cars instead.

  • @Janusha Yeah, it is a bit sad that I have to go back in time that far. Even then, the brilliant Cobra didn't sell in the US. Nor did the Mustang GT 350, a car that handled very well. Obviously the Ford GT, and perhaps the S7 didn't sell. I do get your point. There isn't a supercar manufacturer in the US, and there probably won't ever be one.

    As for the cars tested, they aren't modified. They are stock cars driven by excellent drivers. If you don't think that is the case, then use Sport Auto's

  • The Cobra was far from brilliant. It was a death trap. An oversized engine into a small english open sportscar. A deathtrap. However it was an icon for its era and for many people, still carry alot of heritage. The new Cobra Concept is really a timeless beauty that they should put in production. Build it with Gallardo quality, price it as a lower end Ferrari and you would see European and american customers lining up. But they dont. The Ford GT aswell. Great car. Why they ended it is a mystery.

  • Instead all concepts I see out of USA are no less than 1000 hp and "will lap the Nurburgring in under 7 minutes" Anything less will not do. As if any of that makes a car good. When did this Nurburgring become the ultimate benchmark anyway... when the americans decided so and went there with their full factory teams to dominate the europeans at their own game. They only tell you its a benchmark to give their lap times some credability. Whereas in reality none of the big names even go there.

  • as popular as an Enzo. But I think you could call that a proper supercar. By your logic, one can't call the Cobra, or Cobra Daytona proper supercars, but those were pretty kick- ass, and you would have a difficult time beating a Super Snake around a track TODAY with anything less than a Viper or GT-R. The 90's ZR-1 was quite good, but I haven't looked at its interior.

    You are right about hype used to sell other cars in a manufacturer's line. However, the GT series itself was fueled by the

  • @libertarianbeckham need to sell cars. So making that point too strongly is a bit exaggerative.

    Regarding certain manufacturers distaste for testing cars at the 'Ring, well, they can do what they want. Obviously, refraining from going there is what's classy for them. It's a tradition, and they make sure their cars do get tested, albeit elsewhere. Nissan and Porsche tested their cars there. I like to use figures from there because anyone can access them and alot of cars have been tested there,

  • Supercars aren't exactly practical, so one must factor in their demand into their appeal. You are right in that nobody wants an SSC. Heck, nobody seems to want a Mosler, a car brand that was started specifically to race around a track, and one that had a model banned from use by IMSA because of its dominance. Heck, the Raptor had a MINI-VAN steering wheel.

    However, your original argument that America hasn't ever built a proper supercar is moot by the likes of the Saleen S7. Yes, they weren't

  • to be sold in the US. That seems a bit stupid, doesn't it? Diesel has proven to be a more efficient fuel than gasoline, yet it has MORE tax. Almost all of the retail product in the US rely on diesel fuel to power the trucks used to transport them. None of this seems shady or absurd in the least bit to you?

    Getting to our original dispute: Your best argument is probably the fact that there is not a manufacturer building only supercars or nice sports cars. That and your point about selling them.

  • their information in as well), both becoming further entrenched in debt, are willing to give up all of that money? You said that a large problem in the US is increased reliance on Chinese loans, so obviously money is a large need for the government right now. If Obama was in the least bit serious about reducing emissions, he would loosen the incredibly tough emissions standard on diesel engines, and lower tax on diesel to the level of gasoline. The freaking VW 1.9 liter diesel had to be modified

  • Fuel taxes in the United States vary by state. For the first quarter of 2009, the mean state gasoline tax is 27.2 cents per US gallon, plus 18.4 cents per US gallon federal tax making the total 45.6 cents per US gallon (12.0 ¢/L). For diesel, the mean state tax is 26.6 cents per US gallon plus an additional 24.4 cents per US gallon federal tax making the total 50.8 cents US per gallon (13.4 ¢/L). Now, are you going to tell me that the US and Canada (I live there now, and therefore am throwing

  • the new koenigsegg ccxr goes in 416km/h

  • Its a mystery to me why americans cant build proper supercars when 11 people in Sweden can build a Koenigsegg.. A totally unknown brand name that has become one of the 3 top marques in the world over a short time. Alongside Bugatti and Zonda.

  • @Janusha Perhaps you haven't heard of the SSC Ultimate Aero. The first production models were made with Chevy v8 engines. Shelby SuperCars plans to build an electric version of the Aero as well.

    Asides from the fact that you could have bought one for less than $450,000, I dare say the fastest car in the world is far more durable and worlds cheaper to maintain than any European supercar.

    By the way, the American- powered Corvettes racing in the FIA GT Championship haven't performed too

  • shabbily, despite its base design being far off from "supercar" status.

    The Maserati MC12 Corsa, which if I'm not mistaken is not a bonafide FIA GT car, cost nearly one million Euros. Don't quote me, but I believe the 'Vette GT1 RACE car isn't as costly.

    Heck, even a Ford GT with a five liter engine ran with the big dogs last year.

    Another American supercar: the Saleen S7 Twin Turbo. Again, much cheaper to maintain than its European counter- parts, and it is still capable of performance

  • similar, if not better, than cars like the Enzo, MC12, Koenigsegg ccr/ccx.

    Any sort of significant luxury or aesthetic advantage you think the best European cars hold over the best American cars is either due to a meaningless "artsy", "chic", and biased mindset you might have, or ignorance.

    I believe that I addressed your comment. If you wish to bullshit further, please do.

  • ok.. Here goes. The Saleen is out of business for failing to sell cars. Same goes for the Ford GT which was only fantastic because they werent too proud to call europeans to help build it. Only 2-3 SSCs go fast and they do it with racing fuel. Infact I doubt more than 1 is capable of the record. The rest are no faster than a Viper. Nobody ever bought one anyway. Mosler might build a car if you call them and ask nicely.. Which leaves the Corvette as the only viable performance car out of USA

  • I don't see what going bankrupt has to do with having built a competent vehicle. Regardless, they didn't just necessarily lose money on the S7, as their main line of work was tuning Mustangs.

    The Ford GT was still assembled in America, and powered by a v8 PICK- UP engine, made in the US.

    What do you not understand when told that the SSC Ultimate Aero is "The fastest production car in the world"? The car they tested is a production car. Racing fuel, you say? What are you implying? That it was

  • run on 91 octane fuel? Like every other supercar in the world? By the way, it has, of course, not been sold like hotcakes, because it is indeed different, clashing with the mindset of traditionalists. Even so, how many Koeningsegg's have been sold?

    Shelby didn't make the car to sell, they made it to market the technology they want to release into the market, like the electric- battery they have made. Of course super-capitalistic America might suffocate Shelby's ability to saturate the market

  • with competent "green" technology, but that is beside my point. Jerod Shelby is noone to snear at, considering the engineering feats he has achieved with little financial backing. Also, if I'm not mistaken, his company made the block for the engine, if not the engine in its entirety, in the Ultimate Aero.

    What's wrong with the Viper? Posting a time of 7:22.1 as confirmed by Motor Trend isn't good enough for you? Heck, German car magazine, Sport Auto, tested the ZR1 'Vette and timed it at

  • 7:38, and I guarantee the ACR is faster. Asides from that, why should I even believe any of Sport Auto's times, as according to the logic you have expressed on other videos, what anybody says doesn't mean shit.

    Whilst Mosler has had its share of embarrassing problems, they proved that one could build a cost- friendly, quick, car. As to their quality, I don't think they are any shoddier than an Ascari, which they remind me of.

    Lastly, I would like to apologize for the late response.

  • Sure anyone can make a fast car cheap. The technology is out there. Just putting numberplates on a racecar is a hell of a lot cheaper than supercars. However styling, build quality and technology is where the money stacks up. Americans never understood this and never built a real supercar. No american has ever built a full on, best they can do, car. The Nurburgring lap times are as fake as the SSCs top speed. Why americans are unable to establish a supercar brandname is a mystery to me.

  • Saying that SSC never ment to sell cars is silly. If people were calling them night and day asking for cars, believe me they would build them. Koenigsegg and SSC are two widely different companies. Koenigsegg sell cars to the ultra rich that want the best money can buy. Their customers often already own a Bugatti and an Enzo. SSC would appeal only to the super patriotic american that want it because its got a world record tied to it. Qualitywise its not even comparable to entry level Porsche.

  • This silly SSC thing. From what I can tell this is a company that used to sell replica kits. What are the chances that these people have discovered the holy grale of car building. They simply tune a huge V8 mounted on a low drag body and set it off down a straight line. Where is the achievement? And they lie on their website. 1000hp electric car that can charge for 10 minutes every 3 years. RIIGHT. Anyway grats on America finally building a carbon fibre car. Its been done in Europe for 40 years.

  • Through history americans always built 1 car out of the brand that performed. For it to shine some light on the rest of the cars that werent as good. Only a couple of SSC have the full power. Only the ACR Viper is quick on a track. The ZR1 is a tweaked, upgraded Z06 which is an upgraded Z05. Euro cars dont do this. ALL Bugattis, Koenigsegg, Ferraris can do their thing. There is no hype. Europeans build completly new cars from scratch every other year and are waaaay ahead pushing the limits.

  • The Japanese do essentially the same thing the STi is an upgraded WRX is an upgraded Impreza, the GT-R (formerly) was an upgraded Skyline, the Evo is an upgraded Lancer. Of course there are exceptions like the NSX, but then America has their exceptions too, like the Ford GT. There are merits to both methods really.

  • I dont follow jap cars alot but the new Nissan GT is a TOTALLY new car. There is nothing of the old Skyline in it. The Ford GT was great because they werent too proud to call europe for help when building it. Lotus set up the handling for both the Nissan GT, the Ford GT and several other sportscars. Point was that americans very rarely offer something new and NEVER to my knowledge made a proper, full on supercar.

  • @Janusha Just putting numberplates on a racecar is cheaper than buying a supercar? So you are telling me that the cars raced in the FIA GT championship are cheaper than their street- legal counterparts? Give me a break, mate.

    I would say than the SSC is a car that is as good as SSC can do. They have a miniscule amount of funding in comparison with other companies, and the managed to blow doors off with their technology. They made their own engine, built a very light car, and now will make

  • @Janusha @Janusha Just putting numberplated on a racecar is cheaper than buying a supercar? So you are telling me that the cars raced in the FIA GT championship are cheaper than their street- legal counterparts? Give me a break, mate.

    I would say than the SSC is a car that is as good as SSC can do. They have a miniscule amount of funding in comparison with other companies, and the managed to blow doors off with their technology. They made their own engine, built a very light car, and now

  • @libertarianbeckham will release a battery powered car that will go fast. Very fast. Does their car look ugly? Yes, it does. However, it was designed to remain stable at high speed, and you can bet that it has a sizeable amount of downforce and grip which will help it move quickly around a track.

    Also, I've seen that you like to bullshit about Nurburgring lap times. Stop. Everybody, including people in Europe, continue to rely upon the Nurburgring lap times as an efficient method of

  • @libertarianbeckham comparing one vehicle to another. It's just that way, and will continue to be that way.

    The SSC has a Guinness certified top speed. It is very real. Let it go, consoling yourself with the fact that the SSC has not been tested on a track

  • You have alot of faith in this SSC company.. A company that used to make replica kits for a living before deciding to make a straight liner monstrosity. What are the chances that these guys have stumbled across the holy grale of technology and engineering ? Well.. they havent. Anyone can strap a huge super tuned GM V8 to a chassis and go quick in a straight line. I dont quite see the achievement. Drag cars and salt flat racers have done it since the 60s.

  • They lie on their web page when they say they will produce an electric car next year that willl do 230 mph or something, Produce 1000 hp and needs charging for 10 minutes every 3 years. These idiotic claims is what makes me think these people are unserious liars. For christs sake my phone doesnt charge in 10 minutes. Either way it makes them idiots. Idiots for sitting on technology that GM would gladly pay a billion of Obamas money for or idiots for claiming to have stuff that doesnt exsist.

  • @Janusha I wouldn't necessarily say I have alot of faith in them, as it is easy to strap a huge tuned GM V8 to a chassis and go quick in a straight line. However, I do believe the car would do well around a track. I don't think it looks good, and I understand that the interior is fairly revolting, just like any other American car's. However, I am a huge fan of any technology Jerod Shelby might have, and am mainly rooting for him, and his ability to get it out in the open in this super-

  • @libertarianbeckham capitalistic marketplace. If they do have that sort of technology, I assure you the government doesn't want to have public. Do you know how much fuel is taxed? Do you know that new technology would make a person less dependent on the federal government to bring in the next trillion barrels of oil? I assure you, many corporations, nor the government wants stuff like what Shelby purportedly has to break into the market. I'm not saying he has it, but saying that anything you are

  • @libertarianbeckham used to won't exist is pure nonsense. Scientists are already making progress with a battery that would fit the description of what you stated. They have already recycled the fuel used to power a laser and then shot another laser with that fuel. Obviously, Shelby himself doesn't have a battery as good as the one he describes, but, yes, he does need to generate hype in order to hope that as a small fish he doesn't get gobbled up by a whale.

  • @libertarianbeckham In fact, I'm not even a huge fan of electric cars, but I am a fan of breaking monopolies that exist only because the original laws slated by America's founders have been molested. Electricity must be produced to power electric cars. That means one must build nuclear power plants, or burn alot of coal. I'm not really a proponent of doing either.

    In closing, I do realize that there isn't a brand devoted to making supercar after supercar from the ground up in America.

  • @libertarianbeckham

    In closing, I do realize that there isn't a brand devoted to making supercar after supercar from the ground up in America. I do realize that plastic is exorbitantly used in the Corvette ZR-1 and that its interior is shit. I understand that BMW consciously scales down the quality of its interiors for the American market, knowing that most there don't know anything about the quality of good steer hide.

  • Oh please.. conspiracy theories involving a small american sportscar company.. As if they were somehow special and important. As if USA represents the pinacle of automotive excellence and have to guard their secrets well for fear of rocking the world. Funny... The fact is.. According to Obama, Americas biggest problem is their dependency on Arabian oil. You might have noticed all the talk lately of america exsisting on Muslim oil and communist Chinese money loans.

  • Any technology that would help diminish americas thirst for oil would be more than welcome. The american government would gladly pay billions for such technology. And you are suggesting the 10-15-whatever people SSC have employed are leading in this field. Amazing. Audi is just one car company that have hundreds of people researching electric propulsion. Every cellphone company in the world does the same. Still you are suggesting these SSC people represents the spearhead in this tech. Riiight.

  • The next Ferrari, Lambo, Aston Martin. Do they have 1100 hp? do they claim Nurburgring records or 250++ top speeds? Nope.. They dont even go to the Nurburgring and dont build that quick cars. Why.. because they lack the skills? Hell no. Anyone can but there is no market for single purpose monstrosities. This is just hunting extremes and chasing records to generating hype which americans depend on to sell their stuff. While totally neglecting what makes a car good. They still dont sell cars.

  • @Janusha They aren't necessarily special OR important, and it has nothing to do with whether one creates such technology in the US or elsewhere. I just want technology like that released, and I want everyone to be able to move forward, so to speak. America's biggest problem is the fact that their money is sold to them by a small group of stakeholders which compose the Federal Reserve, a private bank. Obviously, the fact that oil is not known as a renewable resource is still a huge problem.

  • @libertarianbeckham Obviously, once more, the federal government making loans like its going out of style is a big problem. However, if you think Obama is going to solve this by spending even MORE than everybody's favorite genius, George W, then you are mistaken.

    Now to substantiate my earlier claims somewhat: "Fuel taxes in Canada can vary greatly between locales. On average, about one-third of the total price of gas at the pump is tax. Excise taxes on gasoline and diesel are collected ...

  • both federal and provincial governments, as well as by some select municipalities (Montreal, Vancouver, and Victoria); with combined excise taxes varying from 16.2 ¢/L (73.6 ¢/imperial gal; 61.2 ¢/US gal) in the Yukon to 30.5 ¢/L ($1.386/imperial gal; $1.153/US gal) in Vancouver. As well, the federal government and some provincial governments (Newfoundland and Labrador, Nova Scotia, and Quebec) collect sales tax (GST and PST) on top of the retail price and the excise taxes."

  • @libertarianbeckham as of yet.

    If people were calling SSC begging for cars, I am sure they would oblige. However, Jerod Shelby knew that wouldn't be the case, and simply built the car to be a marketing vehicle for the battery technology being designed by his company, no pun intended. He has stated that the Ultimate Aero's sole purpose has been to help sell his company's parts and technology.

    As for its quality, I dare say that it is better than a Porsche Boxster. For one, if you have

  • @libertarianbeckham the 'Vette- engined Aero, you can be quite sure that you're getting a powerplant capable of delivering 200,000 miles of service. I'm sure the drivetrain as a whole isn't bad, including the engine they built. It's well- known that you can put more than a few thousand miles per year on a Ferrari's drivetrain.

    I can't attest to the quality of its body- work, however, the Boxter's or Cayman's isn't that good, although neither are supercars.

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  • This car has 655 hp. Corvette zr1 has 640 hp XD. Just mentioning it

  • the veyron has some thing speaking for it :

    the looks are epic, the build is ..well ..epic! one of a kind...

    koenigsegg offcourse is that aswell..but i'm sure the eveyron is 'the last dinosaur' in it's aera.

    ..but i'd choose the koenigsegg ..i just like it all more ...

  • Just wondering what most people would choose....Koenigsegg or Veyron? It may seem a stupid question to most people but interesting to see.

    Also anyone know what the song is called that plays during that video?

  • KOENIGSEGGG ALL THE WAYYYYYYYYY

  • Lunatic Calm - Leave You Far Behind

  • and Meat Beat Manifesto - Prime Audio Soup

  • Hey thanks for the song titles although I realised a while ago (soon after I asked on this) that I was actually looking for the song when Jeremey tests the Ascari A10 , not the Koenigsegg, haha but thanks anyway!

  • what the fuck is wrong with the sound? its fading out all the time

  • Nothing, it symbolises that there is alot of boring stuff :D

  • @Paralyzer

    If you're referring to what starts around 35 seconds and goes on till 55 seconds.... that's meant to be, a joke on Jeremy's part on how boring the car might be.

  • @Paralyzer there is no wring at the engine sound,

    That is the sound from a real V8, sound from beauty, sound of pride.

    ps. I´am from Sweden

  • i'd have a ccxr edition

  • dunno .. nothing special for me .. my top speed in my random honda accord is 240 km/h so ..

  • Nothing special ? This one goes 390 km/h at top speed. He said 245 MILES AN HOUR...not km/h =D

    LMAO

  • 5:32 hahaha BRUTAL!!!! :D

  • i want one!!!

  • Clarkson wrong again, McLaren F1 is 1140kg, the Koenigsegg CC8S is 1175kg.

    I still wonder how did he manage only 174mph when on a Murcielago LP640 he managed 207mph

  • he ran out of room,,,need a longer track 0.5 mile longer would do it

  • "dyhedralsyncrohelix actuation doors." hahaha

  • The CC is an incredible car and you'll never hear me dis it, but me, personally, I would rather have the Zonda.

  • Only in Sweden baby D:

  • You're on brother, You're on!

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  • I WANT THE CCX!!! It's such a beautiful car! Still faster than the Veyron (if you run it on Buthane fuel) 1018bhp!!

  • such a awesome car

  • how much is that thing. and who makes the drive line. bmw made the mclaren f1 engine if i am not mistaken.

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  • Koeningsegg is a car made in sweden but the company that makes them are from norway :p

  • is this the CC8S ? love it...

  • Proud to be from Sweden!

  • yeaahh!!!!!!!!

  • That is what i'd get if i got rich. Long live sweden!

  • Thats the CCv8s not CCX.

  • haha lol Xd

  • this is not the ccx, its either the ccr or cc8. when top gear did the ccx it was silver.

  • its the cc

  • This would be a CC8S

  • Wait, wasn't this the car that was so dangerous that it prompted Jeremy Clarkson to say "This car is cool for only one reason. If you go though the Pearly Gates, backwards, in a fireball, that's a cool way to die!"?

  • for me I like ccx then veyron becos. I can convert it, draft with and speed with it but veyron just top speed that I can't use. may be onces when I travel. ccx for me is the one! I rather have many good features than to have 1 best thing that I can't even use all the time.

    variety is the spice of life.

  • this guy has a great job

  • Lol! The only thing you've proved is that you are a complete moron.

  • wtf isent it 270 mph

  • that's not a ccx

  • "the koenigbleh"-clarkson. hahaha

  • this car is just great its not very expensive and its full adjustable so you get what you pay for.

  • Yo, moron, that is 1,5 million dollars worth of car, and you call it "not very expensive"!?

  • all of this done with...not a V16 not a V12 not a V10...but a damn V8 that is impressive

  • the CCX topspeed is 395km+ and it says that it have been over 430km/h. that is faster then bugatti Veyron.

    the Koenigsegg is the strongest car EVER...

  • well, you think Bugatti is the best because the specifications. they put in cutting edge tech but that doesn't mean it will be good on the road. and im afraid i dont have money to but one to test it out -*-

  • You are all wrong. The Bugatti Veyron is, and always will be, Better than anything Koeingsegg could make in 1,000,000 years!!!

  • the CCXR will destroy the Veyron buddy. fuck the veyron soo goddamn ugly..

  • Com on thats a CC8S, CCX has more horspower more look more handling(with the wing) and newer!!Koenigseggs are just my favorite cars!!!! OH AND YEA , I LOOOVVEEE THE DOORS , lambo now are oldschools

  • Com on thats a CC8S, CCX has more horspower more look more handling(with the wing) and newer!!Koenigseggs are just my favorite cars!!!! OH AND YEA , I LOOOVVEEE THE DOORS , lambo now are oldschools

  • VEYRON?! those Bugattis look like shit, this car is BEAUTIFUL!

  • The CCR still uses the Ford block, its for the CCX that Koenigsegg designed they're own block. Still a damn awesome car.

  • no this is the cc8s with the ford engine. the ccr and ccx have a Koeingsegg engine and the ccx is the only one that is street legal in the USA and Canada without modifing the engine. the ccx can get 850 bhp on euro gas and 900 on bio fuel. but the ccr gets 800 on euro gas.

  • and then along came the Veyron

  • you guys are geniuses

  • CCR... the older model.

  • Wrong again. CC8S! The CCR and CCX have modified bodywork, but more importantly, both flaunt a touch over 800 hp as apposed to the 655 of this vehicle.

  • that is not a ccx

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