Democracy: mob rule?

[UrbyKris]

If it's human nature you shouldn't have to inforce it <.<

[qwertypoiu4321]

Democracy (Merriam): 1a. government by the people; especially: rule of the majority.

Mob (Merriam): 1. a large or disorderly crowd; especially: one bent on riotous or destructive action.

Rule (Merriam): 1a. a prescribed guide for conduct or action.

'Democracy'=coercive Mob Rule Statism.

[AndroidPolitician]

@qwertypoiu4321

Maybe if think that people are inherently stupid and corrupt then yes democracy would always lead to "mob rule".

[qwertypoiu4321]

Song?

[agapeiron]

When conservatives speak of "mob rule" they are reiterating the mentality of the reactionary aristocracy of 18th and 19th century societies.

It is the fantasy of rich, misanthropic right wingers that any form of participatory democracy is "mob rule."

They deserve their own fantasy: let them face a screaming, irrational mob. Let them be derided by hooting peasants with pitchforks, their estates turned into anarchist collectives. At least they'll get SOME fulfillment out of social revolution.

[jeebiskebowski]

What exactly is a minority right? If rights exist, then they are absolute to all. There are no gay rights, there are not minority rights, there are no majority rights, there are rights, or there are no rights.

[arbide2]

The environment is not fragile.

[QuatFax]

@arbide2 Since when? The environment is extremely fragile. Everything is so inter-connected that to throw one small thing off can send the entire world into chaos.

[NoWayFolding]

@QuatFax This is a ridiculous statement. Throw one thing off can cause the entire world in chaos.

O really what factors would they be? Why hasnt this chaos happened before if it thats easy to destroy.

[QuatFax]

@NoWayFolding Okay, just to give you one example, take the Dust Bowl. It was an environmental catastrophe; the breadbasket of the United States was reduced to a giant sand hell overnight. Why? Because farmers plowed their fields in the wrong direction. Literally plowing their fields in a way consistent with the wind would have prevented one of the greatest environmental tragedies of the 20th century.

[NoWayFolding]

@QuatFax While the Dust Bowl was a catastrophe for the people living within the places affected (in parts of USA), it wa by no means on a global scale.

I just get annoyed when people extremely exaggerate to persuade people in their favour, and stating that the entire world can be sent into choas because of one small factor regarding the world is insane.

Lets use your example. You only mentioned 1 factor (which wasnt the biggest factor btw) to get across your argument about the Dust Bowl accident

[NoWayFolding]

@QuatFax Infact if you look at teh Dust Bowl disaster there were a huge number of factors to get into the disaster. The 2 biggests factors were severe drought aswell as farming without crop rotation. You even said yourself everything is inter-connected. This means there is going to be a huge number of factors which affects a certain thing in the environment. The environment is a complex system, so complex and so old that I think saying it is fragile is like saying the internet is fragile.Its not

[QuatFax]

@NoWayFolding But certainly you can't deny that lack of crop rotation is a very small factor, and it did cause a global catastrophe.

Severe drought did contribute to the Dust Bowl. But the point is that the drought wouldn't have caused anything like that kind of catastrophe if not for very tiny changes in farming practices. Plenty of areas get severe drought without being turned into deserts.

I never said this was a global example.

[QuatFax]

@NoWayFolding "The environment is a complex system, so complex and so old that I think saying it is fragile is like saying the internet is fragile.Its not"

That's fallacious. The more complex a system is, the easier it is for tiny changes to throw things off. Typically, being more complex means having more factors that are interdependent. But if a system has lots of interdependent factors, throwing off one factor will compromise all the others. Thus making it a fragile system.

[QuatFax]

@NoWayFolding Excuse me. I said "certainly you can't deny that lack of crop rotation is a very small factor, and it did cause a global catastrophe." I meant to say "certainly you can't deny that lack of crop rotation is a very small factor, and it did cause an enormous catastrophe" Obviously, I accept that the Dust Bowl wasn't global, though it still demonstrates that the environment is extremely fragile.

[motelcalifornia]

That Chaplin clip cracks me up. LMAO

[SOCRATES012]

nice

[zoticus1]

unfortunately left leaning politics will forever be hijacked because the greedy never get their fill

[NoMorFear]

HEY NIGHTS, WHY DON'T YOU JUST UPLOAD THE WHOLE DOCUMENTARY INSTEAD OF POSTING 5min CLIPS HERE AND THERE EVERYDAY.

[OntologicalQuandary]

I dont see how the main message of this piece is mutually exclusive with capitalism. Socially, we should be like this video, I agree. But in business we should have a free market. Asking the opinion of a hired worker on how the business started should run HIS business should be required. But if the owner wants to ask then by all means he may. If that is truly more effective, then those types of businesses will eventually dominate.

[AbtinX]

Once again Jonathan, one excellent film. Thank you

[PersianPaladin]

I had to watch this video twice before I understood some of the more subtle aspects. It does make you think.

[darthrevan6]

wow, that shit is great! :D

[chatsworthsharp420]

i enjoyed this video!

[truthaddict7]

i cant wait to buy your documentary