doug rokke depleted uranium gulf war

[wannaruwae]

what's the point ??? blablabla, nothing changed, retard nation will continue genocide millions of people, fucking dumb nation.

[ed11561]

The USA is a set-up mother fucker. They GIVE you all the weapons they want to give you.They make believe they are your friend,THEN they say that you have WMD's(that the US gave u) AND THEY INVADE YOUR COUNTRY. PURE SCUM. Did it many times.

[DURound]

who on earth is samira jassim?

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Oh... a lovely mother of 6 children who had other mother's children raped and then she told those girls that they only way to save their honor was to become living bombs. She sent about 30 girls to their deaths.

[DURound]

Ahhhh listening to this video again.. Rokke is so bogus.

[DURound]

Ahhh.. Samira Jassim convinced me that hate and war are equal opportunity employers.

[DURound]

I can rant all day on DU, but am saving this for personal reasons.

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You probably can.  But not because it actually causes serious problems for vast numbers of people. More likely because it is one more symbol of war -- which you do not like.

But also remember.. war and combat.. settle things. And sometimes things need to be settled.

[DURound]

I was being sarcastic on my ''dueling at sundown'' the point comes down to humans evolving past war mentality to begin with.

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Well, thats an idealistic view that has been proposed for many many years... well before anyone I know was born, and yet not a year goes by without wars.

I think it is probably like wishing for people to stop being people.

[DURound]

All true except once upon a time men fought sword to sword or gun to gun, with few civilian casualties years later.

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Yeah, but wars would go on for decades and even for generations. Not so good.

Also disease was more rampant.

But even if all that time was so much better (and it wasn't) your complaint is about war period. And there has never been a time with humans on earth that there was not also war. Never in recorded history. Ever.

So lets deal with the realistic things.

[DURound]

Sheesh, what happened to a dual at sundown?

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Aren't you being a bit silly?

[DURound]

I don't get your point. Saving friendlies at what costs to civilian populations? You must realize innnocent children lose limbs with cluster bombs, often many years later.

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Well, this requires a great deal more analysis which cannot be done here. In essence you must also ask what about the costs that would occur to those populations without those weapons being used? They might be pretty great!

But you are reaching pretty far past the topic of D.U.

[DURound]

Gads,, Rokke is lying alot in this video.

[DURound]

don't you think it's time we stopped creating weapons that destroy people and the earth?

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Which weapons are you referring to?

What is the humane reason for creating DU, cluster boms, dime bombs and phosperous.

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These help preserve the lives of friendlies. That is the humane reason.

[Waterloupe]

We should "talk softly and carry a big stick". Bottom line if you don't have a big stick, most folks don't one care whether you talk at all. Its a sad reality but a strong defense, backed up by strong weapons = peace. Everytime the U.S. has allowed itself to become weak, it leads to war. Read the history books. This is a fractured world and the way to live it in peacefully is to have a strong and capable defense...with lots of nasty weapons to back you up when diplomacy fails.

[mashj50]

firstly the term depleted is misleading if you do the research you find that only 2% of the radioactive material has been removed from the material yes that's right 98% is still intact ! as for war being necessary that's pure 100% bullshit. war is about money & energy nothing more the U.S military industrial complex needs to avoid going out of business pure & simple they have been engaged in creating wars & supplying arms since the year dot for the overlords BANKERS, wake up

[DURound]

firstly the term depleted is misleading if you do the research you find that only 2% of the radioactive material has been removed from the material yes that's right 98% is still intact !

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That is completely false.

[DURound]

as for war being necessary that's pure 100% bullshit.

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That is right.

Instead of going to war, people can die.

Or they can be enslaved.

Or they can be impoverished.

All kinds of alternatives.

[Waterloupe]

Not sure that we weould want to say to our troops "sorry guys, we don't have the best weaponry for you to fight the war cause it might make the battelfield toxic for folks who live there.". White phosphorous is for creating smoke screens...not supposed to be used on people either. Burning, maiming and slcing limbs has been part of war since history began. I would love to get rid of war but really, will that ever happen. Quite frankly, all weapons are a deterrent to aggression.

[Waterloupe]

I am not sure I want to waste my time. But here goes...DU is depeleted or its radiactivity - as in "depleted" uranium. Its toxicity is associate with the fact it is a heavy metal (like mercury, lead, cadmium,etc.) It was designed in anti-tank rounds. Because of its density it cuts through armor like butter . Not intended to kill people by toxicity but to stop tanks...of course people happen to be inside tanks...but if one of them were coming at you, you might want to have a DU anti-tank round

[Waterloupe]

PEOPLE: PLEASE! I know Doug Rokke, was in the Army Reserve with him for 6 torturous years until he was finally nudged into the IRR (thank God). He has severe mental problems and in someways, I feel sorry for him but..don't let him dupe you.. he is a compulsive liar. Well, maybe not. That implies he knows the difference between reality and nonreality. He is simply living in a fantasy world he has created to make himself feel important. Its sad that alot of you are believing a this stuff.

[bigfoottoo]

I can't believe anyone would belive Rokke's tripe. I went to grade school (Rockland) and high school (Libertyville, Class of '67) and lived several doors down from this guy. If you believe him, you must be desperate for any left wing crap. This guy was, and is, the biggest loser who ever lived. He teaches middle school for a living, HELLO!!!!

[superoctane]

tiger355 you are an idiot....and.....I looked at your channel......what are you? Depleted uranium is deadly.Its undisputable.

[tiger355]

See International Information Program- False Allegations Regarding Depleted Uranium "Depleted uranium is actually 40% less radioactive than the natural uranium in the environment around us, and much less radioactive than fuel-grade or weapons-grade uranium". Independent studies have shown large increases in cancers and birth defects where the Iraqi regime has used chemical weapons.

[mashj50]

i don't think you get it. 1: there is NO safe level of radioactive contamination.2:D.U is not in some rock form but burnt into sub micron dust particles easily inhaled or ingested ,with a half life of 2.5 Billion years.D.U is present all over Iraq from U.S military operations ask yourself how is it that 428,000 gulf war1 veterans are on permanent disability pensions after taking part in a 2 week ground war? vaccinations,chemical exposure & D.U that's how defending the indefencible mate.

[staarkednav]

Thank you mashj50, this is some horrific information. Beware the military complex indeed. I fear the masses have been programed beyond saving, the messenger cometh and what do they do? same thing as always, open up and fire like a bunch of damn fools. =(

[DURound]

i don't think you get it. 1: there is NO safe level of radioactive contamination

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Yet every person has Uranium in their bones and we eat about 1.8 micrograms of it per day.

So apparently there is no safe level of living.

Wow... lets all commit suicide.

[Intangible88]

A man whom as Dante put it "Awoke to Find Himself In A Dark Wood" (as I think we all do eventually) then started to work his way out of it- we all makes mistakes - we can heal them and heal others.

[A707B2]

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[Pewpewlas3rgun]

I'm not even going to try convincing you, Mashj50. Voltamp gives you volumes of reason and logical evidence against claims against DU's radioactive hazards, and all you do is insult him rather than actually refute any of his points.

Poor, very poor.

[mashj50]

why do i need to refute his claims there's a 2 hour lecture two inches above any post detailing why his claims are bullshit.Thalidomide? folic acid? the insult is his defence of radioactive weapons . How can any sane person defend the use of any weapon let alone Radioactive weapons.Fucking Battery Boy is a total nut job who needs to piss off and make his own video on the complete safety of D.U weapons not hang around on my channel trying to convince me of his rightness . In my book he's a Tosser

[Pewpewlas3rgun]

I watched from 13min to 19min (when he talks specifically about DU) and he doesn't make any particularly strong arguments. Firstly, depleted uranium is not, I repeat: NOT spent reactor fuel. It has never seen the inside of a nuclear plant. DU is the stuff left over after U-235 is extracted from natural uranium ore, leaving almost all U-238 (which is weakly radioactive due to 4.5bil year half-life, and the fact that only alpha particles are emitted).

[Pewpewlas3rgun]

But anyway, that wasn't even my point. If you're so knowledgable about this issue then you should have no problem refuting his points, without being a douchebag. Instead you come off as a fanatical Anti-American who is desperate to retain his credibility by not having his stance on DU munitions disputed. Even if that means relentlessly personally attacking anyone who disagrees with you, more of an attempt to supress than convince.

[mashj50]

fine you have me nailed i'm a desperate loser sorry ,now piss off, since when is having a stance on D.U weapons anti american? you retard. most americans are the same as everyone else in this world, simple honest folk who have no desire for war of radioactive weapons, you on the other hand are an apologist for military insanity and madness an absolute low life moron, no fuck off and go play somewhere else cockhead. your blocked

[voltamp]

Again, there is no evidence for the link to depleted uranium.

You are still saying "look at the horrible pictures and don't apply any critical thinking skills."

DU has been used in specialized armor-penetrating projectiles. The general exposure produced by this is tiny and effectively indistinguishable from background.

Birth defects are being reported in ethnic areas where Saddam punished the population by witholding medical treatment, clean water, and food. Coincidence?

[mashj50]

well battery boy you can piss off too your levels of ignorance on D.U weapons are breathtaking.if you don't know what your talking about then its best 2 shutup that way no one will find out your a complete clown, explain your opinion to the E.U nations who only a couple of weeks ago have declared a complete ban on the use of D.U weapons.Your just another debunker looking 4 an audience.take in some information as opposed to spewing out apologies for military nut jobs making profits out of misery

[voltamp]

The EU voted for this:

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The resolution "strongly reiterates its call on all EU Member States and NATO countries to impose a moratorium on the use of depleted uranium weapons and to redouble efforts towards a global ban."

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A *call* for a moritorium and a ban by insulated bureaucrats. It's cheap, easy, panders to the Green and anti-US factions, and does not change a thing.

Where is your evidence?

[mashj50]

what kind of nut job are you? a genuine cheer leader for D.U weapons ? have shares in Haliburton ? have you any idea how sick you come across, a genuine apologist for D.U .I've never actually met one before,A new class of freak sicko you probably think 9/11 was done by Muzzo's in a cave in Afghanistan, and that Fluoride is good for your teeth, Do a little experiment get a D.U round and sleep with it stuck in your butt cheeks for a few months then get back to me with the results you Muppet.

[bucksatan1]

Exactly, lack of folic acid in a mothers diet has been shown to cause birth defects. What kind of proof are they showing other than birth defects that happen in every other country on the planet. Yes, they still sell fiestware and vasoline glass and its more radioactive than DU but hey, who cares when all its about is hating the United States and the demon George Bush.

[mashj50]

lack of folic acid ? you clown,how about excessive lead and D.U bullets in your brain cavity that will make you quite sick also.Now your a fucking expert on birth defects of Iraqi women are you? studied for years have you? gone over there and done soil samples have you? tested the women for radiation contamination have you? talked to dozens of victims have you? satan's fuck would be more accurate "battery boy" and "satan's bum boy" international light weight intellectual tag team wrestling !

[mashj50]

you talk like a spin doctor no heart just spin,your pushing an agenda that has no truth just half truth, little lies just half a degree from center. just a nudge to put people on a slightly altered course away from truth.You seem to know quite bit of information but you never touch the truth asking for proof but never offering your own. it is not the job of the people presenting this information to prove anything to you just take in or piss off. one of the two "battery boy",

[voltamp]

Everthing I have written is the truth. You can look it up. I am explaining why I am skeptical. The reasons I gave are good reasons.

"it is not the job of the people presenting this information to prove anything to you"

What a strange thing to say. You are making extraordinary claims. It is your responsibility to provide evidence for the claims, and you simply have not done that.

This is politics, not science.

I see that you are also a 9/11 truther. Talk about no heart.

[mashj50]

No heart ? try no heart from the organizers of the twin towers collapse an event that has never happened before in the history of Architecture. 1,350 ft of concrete steel and glass hit's the ground at less than freefall speed of 9.5 seconds !! you absolute sheep. how anyone can still believe the official story of what happened on 9/11 is beyond me ,on just this point alone you have well and truly shown how much of an absolute muppet you really are so it's goodbye from me your blocked knucklehead

[bucksatan1]

"Look at these deformed babies!" Yeah, and guess what, Iraqis arent exactly the healthiest people on the planet. Im sure they dont have a food and drug dept. How come people who live in heroshima and nagasaki dont have the same problem?

[mashj50]

Hiroshima for starters not heroshima. and as for not exactly the healthiest people on the planet ,we're not talking about a slight head cold here we're talking about being born with NO HEAD! at all, stumps of meat with major parts missing you retard,no legs, no arms, no eyes, you name it , just piss off mate and come back when you learn to spell and read something other than the military industrial complex owned mainstream media propaganda !!

[bucksatan1]

Ever heard of a drug called thalidomide? It produces effects similar to what these birth defects appear to be. In order to have birth defects produced by radiation at this magnitude youd have to be close to a lethal dose. Look up Doug Rokke, hes not an expert in anything except being an alarmist bullshit artist.

[mashj50]

fucking thalidamide!! man your back in the 60's. what all these women in Iraq have started taking thalidomide since gulf war one? you've published a paper on it have you? your cluthching at straws mate, a clown, an apologist for nuclear madness,time to go play somewhere else muppet man, do an experiment next time you want to conceive, drink a tumbler of nuclear waste just before you do the business and get back to me with the baby shots, you wanker.oh by the way your blocked too knucklehead.

[voltamp]

Depleted uranium is roughly as toxic as lead. I suggest minimizing your exposure to both uranium and lead.

Naturally-occurring uranium has an average concentration of two parts per million in the Earth's crust: two milligrams per kilogram.

Now, the use of DU armor-penetrators as some gigantic cancer-causing atrocity? It's a hoax.

Try this: Google "Fiesta Ware uranium." Fiesta Ware is dinnerware with a red depleted uranium glaze, sold well into the 1970s. Enjoy.

[mashj50]

what so they've stopped selling those pots and pans years ago ? I wonder why? tell the hundreds of women giving birth to horrifically deformed babies in Iraq it's a hoax,why have the european governments declared a complete ban on these horror weapons? your the hoax matey.

[voltamp]

Horrific pictures indeed. And no evidence to support the contention that depleted uranium projectiles are the cause. Just emotion. Don't think, just look at the pictures.

You can still buy Fiesta Ware on Ebay. Why did they stop making it? Because fashions come and fashions go. If dinner plates glazed with 4.5 grams of depleted uranium were considered dangerous, their sale would be regulated. It's not.

False claims about DU effects are being used to advance a political agenda. Despicable.

[voltamp]

Regarding the EU: a non-binding resolution about a DU weapons moratorium has been passed, not a ban. Why? As I said below, political agenda. They don't really do much fighting themselves, the US does it for them. The measure panders to their left-wing constituencies while requiring no meaningful cost or risk to the EU. Cheap theatrics.

The average amount of natural uranium in a cubic meter of soil or rock is about 10 grams. Maybe the EU should pass a nonbinding resolution about that, too.

[yazafara]

wow!!!so much for true facts hidden from each and everyone of us--we r losing ppl and the americans are losing ppl AND tax payers money big time!!what do we do?? just wait and watch till ppl fall of the face of the earth and uranium affects the complete universe--if its effects are gonna be around for a billion yrs-i doubt i m gonna b alive--i doubt each one of u wil be here too! adios--in case i die before meeting you all!

[lwolf1952]

They use depleted uranium as tank armor, but it is clad in steel. D.U has low level radiation, but is still a hazard to cell function.

"DU is considered both a toxic and radioactive hazard that requires long term storage as low level nuclear waste. DU is relatively expensive to store but relatively inexpensive to produce or obtain."

This should tell you why they want to get rid of it. Next? DU toys and food additives.

[mashj50]

i think you might be obsessed with killing the messenger , you like some DU to sprinkle on your toast ? how about as a talcum powder for your armpits ? no i didn't think so ? nasty stuff isn't it. nice try pal but your all smoke and mirrors trying to deflect the real issue DU is deadly nasty dangerous shit that should never have been released into the world period,

[purchaser47]

Entire intro to this film is false -- do not believe what it says -- "doug rokke was sent to iraq to clean up depleted uranium pollution he returned a sick man along with the rest of his crew" First Lieutenant Medical Corps, Army Reserve activated with other members of his unit -not personally specially selected. Did not return from Kuwait a sick man. Remained in Reserve, subject to regular physicals for another 12 years, promoted twice, , served 15 months on active duty from 1995 to 1996.

[Kenzofeis]

Something barely ever mentioned is the particle trail left behind the burning munition.. these particles are of course of the same radioactive material, and since this is a chemical reaction it does not affect the nucleus - which stays radioactive until emitting an alpha particle.

[hrprada]

I recently heard that a trillion dollars of taxpayer's money has been spent so far on the war in Iraq. where is all this money going ? Obviously some people are lining their pockets selling "goods and services" to this "war effort". The medico/pharmaceutical industry is having a bonanza "treating" all this disease that is being generated. War is just good for business, when your business is the poisoning and destruction of humanity.

[Jackie205683]

DEPLETED URANIUM IS KILLING US...and who's fault is that...ours...so why don't we change the way this world is ran and vote all the people who have been in congress for too long...out of there...just vote the imcumbents out.....vote for someone new....this is the PEOPLE'S PARTY.....let's do something about this

[salsabeela]

shukran4001..the problem with DU..is that cannot be cleaned..EVER..iraq will be contaminated for as long as this planet will exist..lead and narcotics can be cleaned up..but DU..is here to stay..

[mashj50]

so your fine with an entire army designed to protect you being decimated by DU weapons and chemical biological weapons by their own generals and political leaders, your obviously a very comapssionate being full of love and empathy for your fellow americans have you thought of running for the presidency your a perfect fit for the job

[smarthandsomeguy]

What are you waiting for? You have all the information you need. You know it's wrong, you know, who actually holds the smoking gun in the hand. What are you waiting for?

[smarthandsomeguy]

C'mon, EVERYBODY knows, It was the No 1 war scandal regarding gulf war one. It was BIG in the media (in Europe). I mean, there even is a wikipedia article about this. When you go to the University, you learn in physics about it. How can ANYBODY NOT KNOW? But - yeah - you also believe that war hero's actually exist, and that the government cares about the life of soldiers. Wake up soldier! This is an order!

[salsabeela]

smarthandsomeguy..it' called selective ignorance..seem to me that the majority of americans find it difficult to accept what the gov did..does and will do to everyone, including our troops..and what about White phosphorus..you think they know about that?

[smarthandsomeguy]

C'mon, everybody knows about white phosphorus, right? Right??? Propably, you're right. It's a shame.

[salsabeela]

smarthandsomeguy..think again..9 out of 10 people i work with..did not know about UD.. you think they would know about white phosphorus?..and none of them are under 25 years old..again..i think they just do not care, then they wonder what the heck is happening in usa..most people wait for the other to do something...

[NOMASAIM]

I feel ashamed and naive for assuming that our military would never knowingly subject our soldiers and innocent civilians to such horrors. Sadder still is the fact I feel powerless to do anything about it, because getting involved will steal time away from watching Scott Baio is 45 and Single on VH1.

If it moves any of you who are not as hopelessly indifferent as myself, please start the revolution. I promise I'll join as soon as I find out if Chachi conquers his fear of commitment.

[fezthecat1]

check out the Online Resource Guide on my page myspace(dot)com/more_bleeping_­truth. It contains information on Depleted Uranium, and where to go to get help if you've been exposed to it, and much much more. This is information for the public, active military, and veterans. Spread the word.

[depleteduraniumiswmd]

Depleted Uranium is WMD.

Tell the soldier the truth about Depleted Uranium, and the soldier won't go to war.

It's too bad the soldier doesn't know, Depleted Uranium kills, and the soldier is expendable.

The U.S. has used more depleted uranium since 1991 than the atomicity equivalent of 400,000 Nagasaki bombs.

Since 1943 the military has been aware of the extreme toxicity of uranium as a gas.

518,000 Gulf-era vets in 2004 are now on medical disability.

[salsabeela]

depleteduraniumswmd..you got it right.. sad that no one told BUSH.....you think he know about this...?:|

[smarthandsomeguy]

It requires only general education. So he propably doesn't.

[salsabeela]

smarthandsomeguy..you have a point there..i forgot he's intellectually absent. he he he

[mashj50]

thankyou for the information it is appreciated and i hope well read by those viewing this lecture

[mashj50]

well i must say you are a very rude person calling me an ignorant fuck have you thought of running a charm school ? how are you in relationships ? do you have loving interactions with your nearest & dearest or are you single perhaps ? if you want ot be an effective communicator try to respect others it's much more effective getting your point ocross that way

cheers dear

[BlackOnBlueSilver]

uranium radiation is more serious than cell phones and microwaves u ignorant fuck

[mashj50]

yes he would have copped a dose but you can rest assured they are giving their top people materials such as liquid activate Zeolites to strip out any unwanted radioactive materials, They know how to protect themselves from this toxic weapon but the average military grunt can go die in an early grave as far as they are concerned.hopefully take out their wife & kids as well ,Great plan weaken America from the inside, ready for one world government takeover pass the popcron please !

[SandovalAlarcon]

i hope assholes like the viceroy Paul Bremmer got his dose while he was the Saddam-lite ruler of iraq

[TheWorldCrier]

I know one man who came back from two tours and died of leukemia. i wonder if the military are going to keep track of how many troops come back and get cancers. Or their kids are deformed. Agent Orange anyone?

[mashj50]

they already know what they are doing the agenda is to kill off the american military from the inside out. america is under attack more so than any other country

[monalisaa35]

jesus christ. ur right. all of you. this is the scariest gulf war vid ive ever seen.

[factsnow]

Plenty of Radiation here at home too

cell phone networks, wifi networks, radar etc

ontop of that do you use a microwave oven? thats radiation

For some reason people ignore the Gulf, but ignore it at home too

Grab a radiation metre and go and see - Tks Doug, keep waking up people

[Hadukenjeckt]

Excellent video,

Not only should this video be shown to every enlistee, it should also be featured on every video site on the web for all the world to see.

And it would be if the people who profit from these sites cared for their fellow human being.

Peace & Respect,

~Haduken!

[acidsponge]

every single troop recruiter and enlistee needs to watch this now!!!

[Bopkasen]

No. Rokke is lying by injecting lies into truth.

[acidsponge]

could you be more specific?

[OttoMaddock]

No, he can't.