Yup, that's why I bought an analog scanner. They want $400 to $500 for a digital scanner and you can't listen cause all the systems that went digital also encrypt for privacy. Don't waist your money and buy analog and listen to EMS, fire and air my scanner also covers HAM, CB, G/F/URS and buisness radio.
@Rhyde5571 it's called digital encryption, analog encryption sounds like static , digital encryption sounds like THIS. THIS IS ENCRYPTION, you couldn't hear a word they were saying , could you , nope that's what I thought!
I'm looking to purchase the newest edition of the Police Call Frequency guide (I have the 2005 edition). I went to radio shack locally earlier today but the girl there said she had never even heard of it. I also searched google and apparently the 2005 edition is the most recent available.
Can anybody tell me if and where I can find any edition more recent than the 2005 copy that I already own?
encryption is necessary for drug or high priority survellance, certain people like most scanner users often have scanners themselves and can be alerted to info, so police must scramble to get an upper hand on crime...... really 1st grade logic
Yes, in the case of encrpyted talkgroups. you don't program them in,but on the other hand you risk missing clear voice communications. The U.S coast guard and military mostly encrypt. But not all the time
Its not encrypted its called going "DIGITAL" just on the out side of your receive area on that band i have the same scanner and some times you can hear them clear then right in the middle the signal will fade and you got digital most police do not use encrypting the FBI DEA and US GOVERNMENT do but that is big city stuff and it will sound like your off freq or side band
I live on Vancouver Island I have been scanning for 30 years now over the last 6 years many of the police channels I used to monitor have gone P25 The local police force in my area is the last place where analog is still used all the other ones have gone digital and as far as I have been able to gather info on these P25 frequencies all of them are encrypted 24/7. seems these new fangled scanners like Home Patrol and other digital gadgets are too little too late.
All emergency comms in the UK have been digital and encrypted since 2003. It is *NOT* possible to listen to any of them. That's why scanner sales dropped and companies couldn't give them away. Even if someone was crazy enough to steal a radio, it could be deactivated and made usless remotely within minutes.
@urbex2007 All handsets are G.P.S enabled and assigned to each police officer, the whereabouts of every tetra handset can be tracked at any time, so even if an officer lost one and it could not be tracked down, it would be deactivated and removed from the system.
Assume you could get your hands on one, remove all power and remove the G.P.S tracking device, it would still not work, they have assigned tags like mobile phones that wont work unless connected to the tetra network.
It has been said that while digital systems are in fact not encrypted ( most are not!) that there are digital systems in place that are quite pricey that are in use only be agencies that can afford them. Those being federal government agencies including: Fema, U.S. Secret Service, Homeland Security, Etc. Those systems are truely encyrpted and no commercially available scanner can decode their signals. Most regional agencies simply cannot afford the complicated radio infastructure thats needed.
wELL IN THEORY ONE CAN BREAK ENCRYPTION BUT IT IS DIFFICULT TO DO; THERE IS ALSO GETTING AHOLD OF THE KEYS VIA SOCIAL ENGINEERING; THERE IS LOTS OF UNENCRYPTED STUFF OUT THERE FLOATING AROUND; I NEVER DID BROADCAST THE SOI-DISANT SECRET(ACTUALLY CONFIDENTIAL)TAPES THSAT FELL INTO MY HABDS ONCE. MY SUSPICION IS THAT STATE BUDGET CRUNCHES ARE A GOOD THING AS POWERS THAT BE CAN'T GET LATEST REALLY SECRET TOYS; OF COURSE US NORMALS CAN BE SECRET TOO!
@ChaffSort101 You sound like you know what you are talking about. I have always been interested in this type of thing, and only recently been given as a gift a basic "scanner" from Radio Shack. I know nothing about these things, however, and looking for someone to possibly get me "in-the-know".
All you guys have to do is call up Chloe O'Brian down at CTU and she'll use the subnet to hack into the encryption code protocols. She does this for Jack Bauer all the time.
If the police stopped me and ran my plate I would want anything they say about my bad past 25 years ago not to be heard by some busybody with a scanner...
jajajja no saben la diferencia entre encriptado y digital, y les llaman ruidos extraños...mmmm bien no hay que criticarlos son novatos en la radiocomunicacion.
I agree with alot of whats being said here. I have been scanning since the age of 20, got my first radio shack scanner in 1993. so its been quite some years now enjoying this hobby off and on. i am a big Uniden fan now, and i fear the day when this hobby will come to an end if all USA police, fire, etc. radio systems get encrypted. i have no problem with having to buy a digital capable scanner when the time comes in my area, but encryption will mean the end to scanning. Check out my channel.
i have the identical version but handheld Pro106 - at the very least, the scanner passes the encrypted communication instead of muting it as other scanners typically do
Yeah uh hey guys, FYI encryption by a licensed service is totally fine. Also, if you manage to splice in an encrypt/decrypt box and manage to handshake with the system and hear encrypted stuff, you not only have way too much time on your hands, you're also guilty of a federal felony.
i will second that, there is no encryption being done. Its just that they have gone from analog to digital signaling. Also what the garbled audio is mostly likely is lost data bits , and since there is no error correction i believe the net result is what your hearing.
I had someone loan me voice scrambler on the CB many years ago and it was fairly effective. It sounded like garbage all the voice speech frequencies sounded jumbled up. It made maters worse when you used it on one of the SSB modes. Ear-wiggers were listening and must have had a hard time understanding what the conversation was about.
So no there is nothing on this radio scanner that can be understood. I'm sure they're aware they are being monitored.
there is a way around the problem, its canny technical, but it does graft. instead of wallowing in self pity-letting the dibble think they,ve got it easy now! simpley ask a plod for his!! he,ll defo give you it, as long as you ask him the rite way.
Bought a Uniden home patrol last week and it's already obsolete. The comm system in my neck of the woods is switching to the new passport system and there is not a scanner made to date that will copy the system. (Waste of $500 dollars) You will see it on ebay shortly.
@apple4iphone Yes there is an app for it. But it's only certain cities, you can do it on the internet too. But for most of us, we don't live in those few areas so we are not able to listen to Local LEO
The criminal Feds and other legalized miscreants will use this technology to screw the American people! In fact ,this is only the beginning thanks to the Neocons and New World Order Crowd. Next thing will be forced RFID chips. It's coming folks-you can {BANK} on it!
Just bought a PRO-197 yesterday on sale. Can't wait to get it going. My first APCO-25 scanner. I guess the other 6 are obsolete - not! PS - my local PD and FD went digital two years ago. I asked a police officer what he thought. He rolled his eyes. After talking to him; he confirmed what I knew already - a shrunk coverage area. Oh well - progress!
Digital is going to be the end of us all. The day when the big disaster strikes and none of the radios can talk to each other because all the towers are down and they aren't capable of talkaround, we will be digging up our old simplex radios from the closets.
It's a damn shame. The Blue Ridge Parkway police used this encryped mess also. I have a $500.00 scanner and the digital on my GRE sucks because we have multi site repeters and the scanner sounds like crap. On a single repeter digital site 50 miles away it sounds fine, or if you go downtown between buildings it sound better.
@bluegrass1dcr1 I just wanted to say bluegrass you are an idiot. You obviously didnt pay attention to the video OR the description. There WERE strange noises which WERE encrypted signals and NOT Encoded. Stop trying to know it all and pay attention before you comment on a video.
I know the uk police uses 100% Decrypted singnal But I thout in the usa that if you can hear the police on the scanner you can here all.It dosn't mak since to have only some police calls sound encrypted and others you can hear.
@GhostTech100 Jesus Christ man. You need to worry less about scanners and more about proper grammar and spelling. I had to stop halfway through your gibberish to keep from having an aneurism.
@GhostTech100 That is correct, they use a digital system, o2Airwave run it around 390MHz. The network is SO slow that it doesn't work the way it was intended with voice & data, so the main channels are not encrypted. If you get a Motorola digital radio and know what to do you can listen. There are only a few channels in each area that have encryption, but it was found not to be required as people can't get TETRA on scanners.
Scanners were not the problem, it is still corrupt police!
I thought in the us they have allt he newest trunken scanners that keep up on the new police truken systems.I thoght the water sound was because of a bad singnale or the radios was to far from the scanner?
Advanced communication interceptors (SIGINT/COMINT/ELINT) with off-the-air cracking capabilities can decode encrypted signals. Since technology has become more advanced sizewise, it can also be portable. However, it is not available to the general public.
WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED TO THE FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT? IS THAT JUST ANOTHER LAW/RIGHT THAT THE PEOPLE OF THE U.S.A. NO LONGER HAVE? OUR FREEDOMS/RIGHTS ARE BE STRIPED FROM ALL OF US ONE BY ONE AND SOON THERE WILL NO LONGER BE A CONSTITUTION BUT ONLY OUR DICTATOR, OUR GOV.. BUSH SAID IT BEST! "THE CONSTITUTION IS JUST A GOD DAM PIECE OF PAPER." A PIECE OF PAPER OUR GOV. SEEMS TO BE JUST WIPING THERE BUTTS WITH THESE DAYS. (pblanton) IS RIGHT ENCRYPTING IT IS ILLEGAL! ("FREEDOM OF INFO ACT")
@maunumc1 i think the reason law enforcement does this is because a few bad scanner eggs ruined it by rushing to the scene and getting in the way.as always a few assholes ruin it for the rest of us
@maunumc1 The "Freedom of Information Act" which was passed by President Lyndon Johnson (D) in 1966. Much of that Act went to the trash in 2001 when President Bush (R) signed the Patriot Act into legislation... Do not be fooled, many of the "unAmerican/ UnConstitutional" things civilians gripe about were brought about by the very Republicans they voted for. (This isn't a anti/pro Party message, just a note.) -Peace
@maunumc1 You should really read about what the FOIA actually is. It gives us the "right" to request information that is not already public, but it requires approval and has to meet stringent standards in order to be opened up. The FOIA does not mean the government and all public entities have to operate transparently.
@maunumc1 Let me know if you still believe in the Freedom of Information Act for scanner listening to encrypted communications when the guy breaking in your house gets away because of a scanner or escapes a police foot chase because he knows where they are positioned. Yes, some departments encrypt everything that they don't need to but some information needs to be encrypted.
@maunumc1 Mmmmm wouldn't say its illegal. First of all the Freedom of Information act isn't IN the constitution. It became law in 1996 I believe. Also not to mention that depending on where this guy lives, listening to police conversation could violate the state wiretapping law. I don't disagree that our rights are being stripped away from us, but this certainly isn't an example of that.
@maunumc1 1. Show me the quote where Bush said that about the Constitution.
2. Freedom of Information Act does not apply in any way to non-Federal agencies. 3. Did you ever even take 1 minute of time to read even one sentence of that act?
@maunumc1 in the uk we have to put up with all poice, fire and ambulance radio being encrypted. the only emergency service that isnt is the coastguard
Yeah I am getting one of these radios all my old ones are useless now our city went to APCO 25 as far as I know its just P25 digital voice but if they go encrypted were all screwed heck even the local mall security guard are using some kind of voice inversion or scramble system on there radios yaa scanning might be dead eventually even HAM RADIO is moving toward a technology called D-STAR
The garbled Digital transmission was caused by Global Attenuation being on. It is indicated by the letter G on line 1. To turn it off press FUNC then ATT keys.
The new digital systems are kinda like digital networks or rather internet system technology the audio is converted to digital packets on the fly much like VOIP once its encrypted its impossible to decode packets are encapsulated then forwarded you would need a software based scanner to even attempt to decode anyhow its beyond my knowledge
I just bought the pro-164 and I dont hear many people on phones.I had one in 1996 and wow! I knew the people that were buying NO,NO's useing there phone but I dont hear it anymore,can you tell me why?
OK LET ME SAY THIS ONCE... THERE ARE NO SCANNERS THAT WILL DECRYPT ENCRYPTED SIGNALS!!!
What you are talking about is ENCODED signals, not ENCRYPTED. Look up the difference.
If what you were hearing was encrypted you wouldn't know what was being said, you would just hear strange noises.
Not trying to sound like a dick but I hate it when people say they can listen to encrypted radios and they don't understan the difference between encryption and encoding.
@bluegrass1dcr1 I did not say that we can actually listen to encrypted signals, but I simply want to state the it is IMPOSSIBLE to listen to encrypted frequencies. Encryption has ruined this hobby and even though you pay big money for a scanner you will NEVER be able to listen to encrypted frequencies. I understand that.there may be times that encryption is needed to maintain confidentiality, it still shows how law enforcement can hide their conversations by using using this technology.
@jboyd00 What!!!!!! ok let me get this stright? you did not say that we can actually listen to encrypted signals? so you said its impossible to listen to encrypted frequencies?
@jboyd00 i agree,all he,we on youtube in this video are doing is listening to the encrypted audio one has to be technical here at times,but I wonder if motorola and the other makers of these radios can make encryption decyption on all their ends,then why cant the scanner industry break it wide open too
@jboyd00 I thought encrypted (not encoded but bona fide encrypted using DES/AES for example) radio transmissions by private citizens was illegal due to FCC regulation?
@jboyd00 Well said, the real reason as you allready know is to control the press, we all know that everyday criminals dont use or understand scanners and bank robberies which are usually done with a note dont require a driver, scanner and getaway car like in the movies. i dont wanna hear em say were going encrypted for our officers safety! Fuck them
@jboyd00 Encryption is a GOOD THING. Everyone involoved in crimes HAS A SCANNER, lol. You can walk into any Walmart at midnight and pick one up and cook your meth and Law Enforcement needs an edge. Encryption is the answer and keeps things level. Yes its a drag that everyone can't listen to encrypted conversations but keep in mind WHY its there. You can still listen to MOST police traffic to your heart's content.
@bluegrass1dcr1 Before you start your rant next time please watch the video, he is listening to encrypted signals, he NEVER said the transmission was decrypted.
@bluegrass1dcr1 amen i hate this also ive been scanning since i was six. im fourteen now and going for my ham but you may have jumped the gun at 46 you can hear encrypted
I can understand some channels being encrypted but not all. Like here in St.Louis MO its going to all go encrypted soon Im sure just by hearing more and more encryption, but I think the only channel that needs to be encrypted is the info channel that says peoples names, phone numbers, social security numbers etc etc, do to identity theft. Other than that they should leave it alone. I mean the whole scanner hobby is about to die.
i know allot of fire and ems use encryption to just use it. basically to do personal chatter or like most fire men are getting trained, to report what they see in. basically the secret police of the fed. telling them, go in and when they call emsor fire report. telling them to make documented reports of what level of threat each house hold is or contents within for a fed database. alex jones did report yet no one believed. i can assure, its real.
they did this to some countries already. told people oh no just a digital system. then said oh well 1 encrypted channel. then every one from police to public works went silent. they plan to do the same here. blows. im in law and trust me, i disagree with it. they lock the radios so no1 can read them on a pc. then what sucks is even some cops cant hear fellow agencies. every1s going to the big secret. we have ot go through a state len channel or dispatch. not scan anymore. xts and apx series used
There has to be the techs that program the channels in the radios. There is always "that guy" who has the key. Things will leak at one time or a other and the technology will get out. It maybe hard to get hold of and could put you in federal prison. This whole encryption thing just sucks.
Not for the police. True story: At my agency we got word from a CI that one of our local housing projects was loaded with people with scanners. They were logging down what times they heard our units checking on local businesses and monitoring patrol car movements to coordinate armed robberies. There is no right or need to real time police unit location, not when it puts the public at risk. In no other venue would you expect open comm that could be eavesdropped, it's time to change that.
I would be just fine if they would have some kind of Internet delay program I could buy. If it was like 30 to 40 minutes. That would be cool. I just love listening to things happening. I have listened to scanners since I was very young and this just blows a life time hobby that I have.
yup i agree. for those who follow alex jones, i can tell you his vids of how law enf isbeing told to look for average people, mark or flag as possible threats is true, i.e. people of veteran status, american flag stickers or flags etc. no b.s. there training us on this junk telling us we better not leak it. yet it has anyway. seems usa is going to the secret nazi police, not to mention we have reg peoplehired by the dhs in all jobs from burger king to telephone or cable as informants for dhs.
No scanners can un-encrypt Motorola DES or DVP. New encryption uses a 256 bit key. Some radios also use OTAR (over the air rekeying)if you dont have the key or the last key you cant utilize OTAR making the radio useless. BUT the power of computers double all the time even 256 bit encryption will be busted eventually. DES systems (first ones) are able to be hacked. Motorola updates technology all the time. Look up the Thales MBITR radio. Its Type III DES and also frequency hopping.
I assure you that only very well funded and organized governmental entities would be able to break the new Motorola encryption routine. The main point is that the scumbag thugs who use scanners to facilitate crimes will be unable to. I assure you that it happens a lot more than you think. A lot of them look like idiot clowns with their baggy pants and stupid jewelry, but they are geniuses when it comes to figuring out how to enhance criminal abilities.
Nobody but maybe well funded governments can decrypt DES III. The new 256 bit AES has never been cracked. It is certified for Top Secret use by the NSA to be used by the military and US Dept of Justice divisions.
So there is a key a person must hold that inserts into the radio that lets the radios components unencrypt it. So its like a key to a door. Only the people who hold that key can open it. Right?
Not really. The old radios had data cable interfaces for special software. Now they use OTAR. Over the air rekeying. The radio picks the new key out of the base unit or another authorized transmitter. The real point is you must have the orig key to rekey over the air
That's Something Iv been saying for ever a people keep telling me I dumb that encryption cant be busted. I was saying that technology these days is crazy. Im a IT by trade and know first hand. Its only a matter of time. But like you said computers get better but so do radio encryption as well. By the time one gets busted a new encryption comes out. Do allot still use the older DES systems. What do you do to hear it. Im into computers and know nothing about this.
I have only heard that older DES is weak now and has been busted. I personally have not busted it. I would guess you would need to get a working knowledge of the protocol and write a program/software to do it.
@thallium200 You would not know of any web pages that teach you the specs of DES or the new encryption and if they offer programs or talk about how to make programs to bust the old DES?
@Dusty696969 I don't know of any. I still beleive that doing so would be illegal if you intended on listening to encrypted transmissions. To me its not worth the risk not to mention I dont thing there would be anyone to listen to since DES has been updated. I dont think anyone uses it anymore.
@thallium200 Im just trying to learn more. I did contact my lawyer took look at what kind of law it would be breaking, and to as far as he could see its just listed under FCC rule as a illegal freq kinda like when listening to phone calls was big, but yet the frequencies are not illegal to listen to. So I don't know if its a listed law or not, about breaking encrypted transmission. Because phone freqs your not even supposed to have.
@Dusty696969 The Electronic Communications Privacy Act (ECPA) specifically makes it illegal to even listen to encrypted transmissions. Given the nature of Federal radio use, listening may also vilolate other laws covered by the National Security Agency and considered a Federal security breach. Both of these are punnishable by inprisonment. You want to try it knock yourself out. Im sure not willing to risk it.
@thallium200 Yeah that's whats listed for phone frequencies. I was not sure if contained the encrypted transmissions if there's a frequency that can be legally listened to , but has encrypted broadcast on it. I just did not see anything about encrypted broadcast. I always read before I do anything. But I don't plan to do it. I wouldn't even know where start. And if I planed on doing it "somehow" I would not be talking about it online. Thanks for the information.
i am told were all going to encryption on police all over the usa like other countries have for counter terror ops and to knock out the "domestic threat" being they tell us the people of the country. seems our cert cards are going from upholding the constitution and serving people to upholding corporate politcal agenda law and control. major bs. they forget though most peoplewont buy into that b.s. whether its military or police.
I think it depends where you live as far as how much will be encrypted. As of right now in Houston where I live it appears only the tac channels will/are be encrypted.
our dept was told every1 across thecountry in police by 2018 will be fully encrypted. the first ones to go first are large cities and southern or border states by mexico, and canada. of course the military always goes first. i disagree with the encryption. for one i cant hear the neighbor town in my unit. have2 use a state len channel or go through dispatch. even agencies r blocking fellow agenciesfrom monitoring eachother. hasto do with secure dept investigations on others or some b.s.
I don't think anyone on here knows what encryption is. This radio is just a digital scanner not a digital encrypted scanner. A digital capable scanner has a digital card that has to be added separately because in many countries like Canada it is legal to have a digital scanner but completely illegal to have a digital card in it without a licence. Having a digital card will still not enable you to listen to the encrypted stuff.
Yeah I do know that the whole freq is not encrypted because if that was true I could not hear anyone on a trunk freq. But there is some kind of chip in the radios the makes the encryption work. At first I did not totally understand how encryption works. Thats why people have to research and ask questions to learn. Thats the only way. Right?
I have this police scanner. Its great. I do get a lot more freqs now that I have this scanner that my old one cant pick up but what is encrypted freqs. dose this scanner un encrypt it by itself?
I just watched a video about radios that have chips in them to make it encrypted. But just like when digital freqs started getting used, and when these encryption's start up, then people will start black market making chips to intercept and descramble the encryption's to where they will give up and scanners will then start having them installed anyway. Just give it time.
Dusty, you seem to be confused it is not the frequency that is encrypted but the information that is being sent. Also the company that is using encryption can change the encryption codes when they want.
Actually the scanner does not let you listen to encrypted frequencies... The garbled sound that you hear is a frequency that is using encryption and is unintelligible. You will probably never see a scanner that will be able to decrypt these signals.
@jboyd00 Thank you for sharing! Is it a legal issue in the U.S. to have a scanner decode encrypted signals? Right now, I hear MotoTRBO and ProVoice has been decoded through software using discriminator taps.
p25 is just digital. as for encrypted such as nexedge closed air, moto des/mdc encoded/ pro voice, open sky, is illegal to monitor and no scanner will ever be able to. you could buy a 2way (illegal) but you still the numeric keys. which is impossible to guess. all our dept radios are read locked from people or officerswanting to read the dataand leak it or buy personnal stuff after leaving. has to do with the "terror" thing they keep preaching as to why leo will go encrypted all over oneday.
The issue is that you can't legally unencrypt the encrypted part, so why would you want to hear "Turkey Talk"?
Now whether you should be able to hear that or not is another argument. I maintain that we should be able to hear ALL police and fire communication. I believe that encrypting it is illegal; but that's just me.
Uh I think digital scanners cover those bands too.The GRE PSR-800 can cover the P-25 phase II .
chandlerlesueur 6 days ago
Yup, that's why I bought an analog scanner. They want $400 to $500 for a digital scanner and you can't listen cause all the systems that went digital also encrypt for privacy. Don't waist your money and buy analog and listen to EMS, fire and air my scanner also covers HAM, CB, G/F/URS and buisness radio.
samsiteone 1 week ago
The raw encryption sounds are creepy as fuck.
alexmeanberg 2 weeks ago
WHOA :O Decepticons !!!!!
blacksupra001 2 weeks ago
@Rhyde5571 it's called digital encryption, analog encryption sounds like static , digital encryption sounds like THIS. THIS IS ENCRYPTION, you couldn't hear a word they were saying , could you , nope that's what I thought!
chandlerlesueur 2 weeks ago
Where do you dumbasses get this fake ass information from please research the hobby before you insist on telling something that IS NOT TRUE
chandlerlesueur 3 weeks ago
For updated frequencies goto spectrum database.com
2012Twist 3 weeks ago
if i buy a scanner out of maplin can i listen to the police grimsby cleethorpes im not a criminal had 1 years ago real intresting stuff thanks guys.
TheHitmanhearns 4 weeks ago
hey there i need to talk to you can you plz contact me on my mail thx
bmstg1988 1 month ago
Maybe somebody can help me.
I'm looking to purchase the newest edition of the Police Call Frequency guide (I have the 2005 edition). I went to radio shack locally earlier today but the girl there said she had never even heard of it. I also searched google and apparently the 2005 edition is the most recent available.
Can anybody tell me if and where I can find any edition more recent than the 2005 copy that I already own?
Thanks
Ciao babe.
nudist1033 1 month ago
@nudist1033 You can try radioreference as they have a database of freqs.
InvincibleMario 1 month ago
in the netherlands cant ye listen anymore to the scanner (police,ambu.fire.) c2000 sucks for the hobbyist
copyNOTrighted 1 month ago
hi i have a bearcat bc350c w/800mhz antenna and cant figure out how to get my local police dept can anyone help please
b4guaged1 1 month ago
Thats not encryptions, that's your local police talking to the aliens ;)
Pieh0 1 month ago
encryption is necessary for drug or high priority survellance, certain people like most scanner users often have scanners themselves and can be alerted to info, so police must scramble to get an upper hand on crime...... really 1st grade logic
southndixie 1 month ago
thats not encrypted police freq.........thats aliens from from outter space
wsvitak 1 month ago
is there any way to filter out the encrypted channels when listening the noise is very annoying.
spremulli8 1 month ago
@spremulli8
Yes, in the case of encrpyted talkgroups. you don't program them in,but on the other hand you risk missing clear voice communications. The U.S coast guard and military mostly encrypt. But not all the time
stavrophotography 1 month ago
PS That's not scrambeled just a flaw the in the 800 called "going digital". I hear on my 800 as well the hears what we here not encryption.
ILoveBeingOnline 2 months ago
these were on sale for 50% off on black friday a year ago, I wish I had picked one up -
TheSSMusicChannel 3 months ago
Its not encrypted its called going "DIGITAL" just on the out side of your receive area on that band i have the same scanner and some times you can hear them clear then right in the middle the signal will fade and you got digital most police do not use encrypting the FBI DEA and US GOVERNMENT do but that is big city stuff and it will sound like your off freq or side band
rhyde5571 3 months ago
I live on Vancouver Island I have been scanning for 30 years now over the last 6 years many of the police channels I used to monitor have gone P25 The local police force in my area is the last place where analog is still used all the other ones have gone digital and as far as I have been able to gather info on these P25 frequencies all of them are encrypted 24/7. seems these new fangled scanners like Home Patrol and other digital gadgets are too little too late.
rEdf196 3 months ago
All emergency comms in the UK have been digital and encrypted since 2003. It is *NOT* possible to listen to any of them. That's why scanner sales dropped and companies couldn't give them away. Even if someone was crazy enough to steal a radio, it could be deactivated and made usless remotely within minutes.
urbex2007 4 months ago
@urbex2007 All handsets are G.P.S enabled and assigned to each police officer, the whereabouts of every tetra handset can be tracked at any time, so even if an officer lost one and it could not be tracked down, it would be deactivated and removed from the system.
Assume you could get your hands on one, remove all power and remove the G.P.S tracking device, it would still not work, they have assigned tags like mobile phones that wont work unless connected to the tetra network.
26highstreet 2 months ago
It has been said that while digital systems are in fact not encrypted ( most are not!) that there are digital systems in place that are quite pricey that are in use only be agencies that can afford them. Those being federal government agencies including: Fema, U.S. Secret Service, Homeland Security, Etc. Those systems are truely encyrpted and no commercially available scanner can decode their signals. Most regional agencies simply cannot afford the complicated radio infastructure thats needed.
Tm30w06 4 months ago
wELL IN THEORY ONE CAN BREAK ENCRYPTION BUT IT IS DIFFICULT TO DO; THERE IS ALSO GETTING AHOLD OF THE KEYS VIA SOCIAL ENGINEERING; THERE IS LOTS OF UNENCRYPTED STUFF OUT THERE FLOATING AROUND; I NEVER DID BROADCAST THE SOI-DISANT SECRET(ACTUALLY CONFIDENTIAL)TAPES THSAT FELL INTO MY HABDS ONCE. MY SUSPICION IS THAT STATE BUDGET CRUNCHES ARE A GOOD THING AS POWERS THAT BE CAN'T GET LATEST REALLY SECRET TOYS; OF COURSE US NORMALS CAN BE SECRET TOO!
izelxx1 4 months ago
@ChaffSort101 You sound like you know what you are talking about. I have always been interested in this type of thing, and only recently been given as a gift a basic "scanner" from Radio Shack. I know nothing about these things, however, and looking for someone to possibly get me "in-the-know".
Raiinsong 7 months ago
That was not encrypted it was just Tenctonese!
mp5man 7 months ago
All you guys have to do is call up Chloe O'Brian down at CTU and she'll use the subnet to hack into the encryption code protocols. She does this for Jack Bauer all the time.
file83 8 months ago 17
@file83 That ain't very practical now, is it SA?
SaddleCat1 2 weeks ago
If the police stopped me and ran my plate I would want anything they say about my bad past 25 years ago not to be heard by some busybody with a scanner...
mike62mcmanus 8 months ago
that encryption makes a pretty weird sound...almost scary.
LTCimbulletproof 8 months ago
you can lol get the same components from a cop scanner dumbass
2inhead1inchest 9 months ago
if youre listening to encripted radio signals, you'd better not be advertising to the world online that you do that. It's illeagal, lol
jreinke4 9 months ago
jajajja no saben la diferencia entre encriptado y digital, y les llaman ruidos extraños...mmmm bien no hay que criticarlos son novatos en la radiocomunicacion.
spymsn 9 months ago
I agree with alot of whats being said here. I have been scanning since the age of 20, got my first radio shack scanner in 1993. so its been quite some years now enjoying this hobby off and on. i am a big Uniden fan now, and i fear the day when this hobby will come to an end if all USA police, fire, etc. radio systems get encrypted. i have no problem with having to buy a digital capable scanner when the time comes in my area, but encryption will mean the end to scanning. Check out my channel.
scannercommuniKtions 9 months ago
i have the identical version but handheld Pro106 - at the very least, the scanner passes the encrypted communication instead of muting it as other scanners typically do
elitedata 9 months ago
Yeah uh hey guys, FYI encryption by a licensed service is totally fine. Also, if you manage to splice in an encrypt/decrypt box and manage to handshake with the system and hear encrypted stuff, you not only have way too much time on your hands, you're also guilty of a federal felony.
ykarpov 10 months ago
what a waste of time dude cant hear a thing??? Sucked in to watch your video lol...
hugobosspunj48i 10 months ago
omfg its aleins like in signs
deancoleone 1 year ago
In Denmark, all police and fire-department communication is now TETRA-encrypted :(. NOTHING TO LISTEN ANYMORE.
TheAluminiumklorid 1 year ago
i will second that, there is no encryption being done. Its just that they have gone from analog to digital signaling. Also what the garbled audio is mostly likely is lost data bits , and since there is no error correction i believe the net result is what your hearing.
ilovenbcnews 1 year ago
I had someone loan me voice scrambler on the CB many years ago and it was fairly effective. It sounded like garbage all the voice speech frequencies sounded jumbled up. It made maters worse when you used it on one of the SSB modes. Ear-wiggers were listening and must have had a hard time understanding what the conversation was about.
So no there is nothing on this radio scanner that can be understood. I'm sure they're aware they are being monitored.
EmpireLS56KW 1 year ago
there is a way around the problem, its canny technical, but it does graft. instead of wallowing in self pity-letting the dibble think they,ve got it easy now! simpley ask a plod for his!! he,ll defo give you it, as long as you ask him the rite way.
beam77771 1 year ago
Bought a Uniden home patrol last week and it's already obsolete. The comm system in my neck of the woods is switching to the new passport system and there is not a scanner made to date that will copy the system. (Waste of $500 dollars) You will see it on ebay shortly.
davetrek1962 1 year ago
in the uk u can listen to police in the usa on a iphone can the folks across the pond do the same?
apple4iphone 1 year ago
@apple4iphone Yes there is an app for it. But it's only certain cities, you can do it on the internet too. But for most of us, we don't live in those few areas so we are not able to listen to Local LEO
acekazel 1 year ago
The criminal Feds and other legalized miscreants will use this technology to screw the American people! In fact ,this is only the beginning thanks to the Neocons and New World Order Crowd. Next thing will be forced RFID chips. It's coming folks-you can {BANK} on it!
wa1ufo 1 year ago
Just bought a PRO-197 yesterday on sale. Can't wait to get it going. My first APCO-25 scanner. I guess the other 6 are obsolete - not! PS - my local PD and FD went digital two years ago. I asked a police officer what he thought. He rolled his eyes. After talking to him; he confirmed what I knew already - a shrunk coverage area. Oh well - progress!
357Shakey 1 year ago
Digital is going to be the end of us all. The day when the big disaster strikes and none of the radios can talk to each other because all the towers are down and they aren't capable of talkaround, we will be digging up our old simplex radios from the closets.
Rage2552 1 year ago
@Rage2552 No, that's when all the Amateur/Ham radio operates come in.
rudyiking 1 year ago
it's what the TSA sounds like now at PDX. Still a good scanner with a hot front end.
icom1020 1 year ago
It's a damn shame. The Blue Ridge Parkway police used this encryped mess also. I have a $500.00 scanner and the digital on my GRE sucks because we have multi site repeters and the scanner sounds like crap. On a single repeter digital site 50 miles away it sounds fine, or if you go downtown between buildings it sound better.
perry2638 1 year ago
@bluegrass1dcr1 I just wanted to say bluegrass you are an idiot. You obviously didnt pay attention to the video OR the description. There WERE strange noises which WERE encrypted signals and NOT Encoded. Stop trying to know it all and pay attention before you comment on a video.
matty1988TJC 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
you guys have no life
baseball1090 1 year ago
I know the uk police uses 100% Decrypted singnal But I thout in the usa that if you can hear the police on the scanner you can here all.It dosn't mak since to have only some police calls sound encrypted and others you can hear.
GhostTech100 1 year ago
@GhostTech100 Jesus Christ man. You need to worry less about scanners and more about proper grammar and spelling. I had to stop halfway through your gibberish to keep from having an aneurism.
urmomlikesmysocks 1 year ago
@GhostTech100 That is correct, they use a digital system, o2Airwave run it around 390MHz. The network is SO slow that it doesn't work the way it was intended with voice & data, so the main channels are not encrypted. If you get a Motorola digital radio and know what to do you can listen. There are only a few channels in each area that have encryption, but it was found not to be required as people can't get TETRA on scanners.
Scanners were not the problem, it is still corrupt police!
urbex2007 1 year ago
I thought in the us they have allt he newest trunken scanners that keep up on the new police truken systems.I thoght the water sound was because of a bad singnale or the radios was to far from the scanner?
GhostTech100 1 year ago
Is it possible to connect scanner with computer and run that garbled sound trough some software and decode it ???
zoltan6561 1 year ago
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tetramoo 1 year ago
Advanced communication interceptors (SIGINT/COMINT/ELINT) with off-the-air cracking capabilities can decode encrypted signals. Since technology has become more advanced sizewise, it can also be portable. However, it is not available to the general public.
turbovectorz 1 year ago
A scanner that can DECRYPT end to end ENCRYPTED SIGNALS,,,AHH if only,,Not A chance,,
glennirish 1 year ago
WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED TO THE FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT? IS THAT JUST ANOTHER LAW/RIGHT THAT THE PEOPLE OF THE U.S.A. NO LONGER HAVE? OUR FREEDOMS/RIGHTS ARE BE STRIPED FROM ALL OF US ONE BY ONE AND SOON THERE WILL NO LONGER BE A CONSTITUTION BUT ONLY OUR DICTATOR, OUR GOV.. BUSH SAID IT BEST! "THE CONSTITUTION IS JUST A GOD DAM PIECE OF PAPER." A PIECE OF PAPER OUR GOV. SEEMS TO BE JUST WIPING THERE BUTTS WITH THESE DAYS. (pblanton) IS RIGHT ENCRYPTING IT IS ILLEGAL! ("FREEDOM OF INFO ACT")
maunumc1 1 year ago 29
@maunumc1 you got that right
Bcuz77 1 year ago
@maunumc1
Just as a question, is your rant in regards to not being able to hear the encrypted channels?
jvswerbo 1 year ago
@maunumc1 actually...decrypting and encrypted radio transmission is illegal...nutbar
steeltown98 1 year ago
@maunumc1 i think the reason law enforcement does this is because a few bad scanner eggs ruined it by rushing to the scene and getting in the way.as always a few assholes ruin it for the rest of us
gtasamodder101 11 months ago
@maunumc1 The "Freedom of Information Act" which was passed by President Lyndon Johnson (D) in 1966. Much of that Act went to the trash in 2001 when President Bush (R) signed the Patriot Act into legislation... Do not be fooled, many of the "unAmerican/ UnConstitutional" things civilians gripe about were brought about by the very Republicans they voted for. (This isn't a anti/pro Party message, just a note.) -Peace
eyetotheworld 10 months ago
@maunumc1 You should really read about what the FOIA actually is. It gives us the "right" to request information that is not already public, but it requires approval and has to meet stringent standards in order to be opened up. The FOIA does not mean the government and all public entities have to operate transparently.
lcoursey 10 months ago
@maunumc1 Let me know if you still believe in the Freedom of Information Act for scanner listening to encrypted communications when the guy breaking in your house gets away because of a scanner or escapes a police foot chase because he knows where they are positioned. Yes, some departments encrypt everything that they don't need to but some information needs to be encrypted.
OmahaBasil 9 months ago
@maunumc1 Mmmmm wouldn't say its illegal. First of all the Freedom of Information act isn't IN the constitution. It became law in 1996 I believe. Also not to mention that depending on where this guy lives, listening to police conversation could violate the state wiretapping law. I don't disagree that our rights are being stripped away from us, but this certainly isn't an example of that.
SpartanicalSystem 8 months ago
@maunumc1 1. Show me the quote where Bush said that about the Constitution.
2. Freedom of Information Act does not apply in any way to non-Federal agencies. 3. Did you ever even take 1 minute of time to read even one sentence of that act?
TheUncleDougger 3 months ago
@maunumc1 I think you forgot to unlock Caps Lock...
Sjark92 3 months ago
@maunumc1 in the uk we have to put up with all poice, fire and ambulance radio being encrypted. the only emergency service that isnt is the coastguard
bben95 1 month ago
@maunumc1
You are correct. However a lot of people think the hobby is either illegal. Or those that have scanners are using them for illegal activities
stavrophotography 1 month ago
Yeah I am getting one of these radios all my old ones are useless now our city went to APCO 25 as far as I know its just P25 digital voice but if they go encrypted were all screwed heck even the local mall security guard are using some kind of voice inversion or scramble system on there radios yaa scanning might be dead eventually even HAM RADIO is moving toward a technology called D-STAR
Aaroneus76 1 year ago
The garbled Digital transmission was caused by Global Attenuation being on. It is indicated by the letter G on line 1. To turn it off press FUNC then ATT keys.
kwrxxx 1 year ago
The new digital systems are kinda like digital networks or rather internet system technology the audio is converted to digital packets on the fly much like VOIP once its encrypted its impossible to decode packets are encapsulated then forwarded you would need a software based scanner to even attempt to decode anyhow its beyond my knowledge
Aaroneus76 1 year ago
I just bought the pro-164 and I dont hear many people on phones.I had one in 1996 and wow! I knew the people that were buying NO,NO's useing there phone but I dont hear it anymore,can you tell me why?
MrScrappydue 1 year ago
@jboyd00 Not just PD, here in Louisville, EMS is completely encrypted. For patient privacy they say.
bluegrass1dcr1 1 year ago
OK LET ME SAY THIS ONCE... THERE ARE NO SCANNERS THAT WILL DECRYPT ENCRYPTED SIGNALS!!!
What you are talking about is ENCODED signals, not ENCRYPTED. Look up the difference.
If what you were hearing was encrypted you wouldn't know what was being said, you would just hear strange noises.
Not trying to sound like a dick but I hate it when people say they can listen to encrypted radios and they don't understan the difference between encryption and encoding.
bluegrass1dcr1 1 year ago 30
@bluegrass1dcr1 I did not say that we can actually listen to encrypted signals, but I simply want to state the it is IMPOSSIBLE to listen to encrypted frequencies. Encryption has ruined this hobby and even though you pay big money for a scanner you will NEVER be able to listen to encrypted frequencies. I understand that.there may be times that encryption is needed to maintain confidentiality, it still shows how law enforcement can hide their conversations by using using this technology.
jboyd00 1 year ago 3
@jboyd00 What!!!!!! ok let me get this stright? you did not say that we can actually listen to encrypted signals? so you said its impossible to listen to encrypted frequencies?
okpapereat 1 year ago
@jboyd00 i agree,all he,we on youtube in this video are doing is listening to the encrypted audio one has to be technical here at times,but I wonder if motorola and the other makers of these radios can make encryption decyption on all their ends,then why cant the scanner industry break it wide open too
w9x7cv3vg6 1 year ago
@jboyd00 I thought encrypted (not encoded but bona fide encrypted using DES/AES for example) radio transmissions by private citizens was illegal due to FCC regulation?
ssdwellah 1 year ago
@jboyd00 Well said, the real reason as you allready know is to control the press, we all know that everyday criminals dont use or understand scanners and bank robberies which are usually done with a note dont require a driver, scanner and getaway car like in the movies. i dont wanna hear em say were going encrypted for our officers safety! Fuck them
maqnchs 1 year ago
@jboyd00 Unless you buy the same radio like an xts astro series. u can listen to encrypted frequencies
Wpd54 11 months ago
@jboyd00 Encryption is a GOOD THING. Everyone involoved in crimes HAS A SCANNER, lol. You can walk into any Walmart at midnight and pick one up and cook your meth and Law Enforcement needs an edge. Encryption is the answer and keeps things level. Yes its a drag that everyone can't listen to encrypted conversations but keep in mind WHY its there. You can still listen to MOST police traffic to your heart's content.
snarlingrabiddog5150 9 months ago
@jboyd00 Really? The US military and some LE agencies can decrypt signals. It is possible, but not without a computer, software, etc.
For the hobbyist its impossible.
2204Alpha 4 months ago
@bluegrass1dcr1 Before you start your rant next time please watch the video, he is listening to encrypted signals, he NEVER said the transmission was decrypted.
The encrypted transmission comes up at 0:43.
FlamboyantFerret 1 year ago
@bluegrass1dcr1 you DO sound like a dick though!
BusaFalconer 1 year ago
@bluegrass1dcr1 you dumb he is shoing you what it sounds like not decrypting it
mkubiak67 1 year ago
@bluegrass1dcr1 amen i hate this also ive been scanning since i was six. im fourteen now and going for my ham but you may have jumped the gun at 46 you can hear encrypted
gtasamodder101 11 months ago
I can understand some channels being encrypted but not all. Like here in St.Louis MO its going to all go encrypted soon Im sure just by hearing more and more encryption, but I think the only channel that needs to be encrypted is the info channel that says peoples names, phone numbers, social security numbers etc etc, do to identity theft. Other than that they should leave it alone. I mean the whole scanner hobby is about to die.
Dusty696969 1 year ago
i know allot of fire and ems use encryption to just use it. basically to do personal chatter or like most fire men are getting trained, to report what they see in. basically the secret police of the fed. telling them, go in and when they call emsor fire report. telling them to make documented reports of what level of threat each house hold is or contents within for a fed database. alex jones did report yet no one believed. i can assure, its real.
oterotularosa 1 year ago
they did this to some countries already. told people oh no just a digital system. then said oh well 1 encrypted channel. then every one from police to public works went silent. they plan to do the same here. blows. im in law and trust me, i disagree with it. they lock the radios so no1 can read them on a pc. then what sucks is even some cops cant hear fellow agencies. every1s going to the big secret. we have ot go through a state len channel or dispatch. not scan anymore. xts and apx series used
oterotularosa 1 year ago
There has to be the techs that program the channels in the radios. There is always "that guy" who has the key. Things will leak at one time or a other and the technology will get out. It maybe hard to get hold of and could put you in federal prison. This whole encryption thing just sucks.
Dusty696969 1 year ago
Not for the police. True story: At my agency we got word from a CI that one of our local housing projects was loaded with people with scanners. They were logging down what times they heard our units checking on local businesses and monitoring patrol car movements to coordinate armed robberies. There is no right or need to real time police unit location, not when it puts the public at risk. In no other venue would you expect open comm that could be eavesdropped, it's time to change that.
CryptoDriver 1 year ago
I would be just fine if they would have some kind of Internet delay program I could buy. If it was like 30 to 40 minutes. That would be cool. I just love listening to things happening. I have listened to scanners since I was very young and this just blows a life time hobby that I have.
Dusty696969 1 year ago
I agree, I used to do it as well when I was younger. Unfortunately the bad guys ruin it for everyone, as usual.
CryptoDriver 1 year ago
@CryptoDriver Yes they do and thats so sad.
Dusty696969 1 year ago
encryption sucks.
RayAir1 2 years ago
yup i agree. for those who follow alex jones, i can tell you his vids of how law enf isbeing told to look for average people, mark or flag as possible threats is true, i.e. people of veteran status, american flag stickers or flags etc. no b.s. there training us on this junk telling us we better not leak it. yet it has anyway. seems usa is going to the secret nazi police, not to mention we have reg peoplehired by the dhs in all jobs from burger king to telephone or cable as informants for dhs.
oterotularosa 1 year ago 2
Alex Jones is a nut who uses gullible people to make money.
CryptoDriver 1 year ago
No scanners can un-encrypt Motorola DES or DVP. New encryption uses a 256 bit key. Some radios also use OTAR (over the air rekeying)if you dont have the key or the last key you cant utilize OTAR making the radio useless. BUT the power of computers double all the time even 256 bit encryption will be busted eventually. DES systems (first ones) are able to be hacked. Motorola updates technology all the time. Look up the Thales MBITR radio. Its Type III DES and also frequency hopping.
thallium200 1 year ago
I assure you that only very well funded and organized governmental entities would be able to break the new Motorola encryption routine. The main point is that the scumbag thugs who use scanners to facilitate crimes will be unable to. I assure you that it happens a lot more than you think. A lot of them look like idiot clowns with their baggy pants and stupid jewelry, but they are geniuses when it comes to figuring out how to enhance criminal abilities.
CryptoDriver 1 year ago
Nobody but maybe well funded governments can decrypt DES III. The new 256 bit AES has never been cracked. It is certified for Top Secret use by the NSA to be used by the military and US Dept of Justice divisions.
thallium200 1 year ago
So there is a key a person must hold that inserts into the radio that lets the radios components unencrypt it. So its like a key to a door. Only the people who hold that key can open it. Right?
Dusty696969 1 year ago
Not really. The old radios had data cable interfaces for special software. Now they use OTAR. Over the air rekeying. The radio picks the new key out of the base unit or another authorized transmitter. The real point is you must have the orig key to rekey over the air
thallium200 1 year ago
That's Something Iv been saying for ever a people keep telling me I dumb that encryption cant be busted. I was saying that technology these days is crazy. Im a IT by trade and know first hand. Its only a matter of time. But like you said computers get better but so do radio encryption as well. By the time one gets busted a new encryption comes out. Do allot still use the older DES systems. What do you do to hear it. Im into computers and know nothing about this.
Dusty696969 1 year ago
I have only heard that older DES is weak now and has been busted. I personally have not busted it. I would guess you would need to get a working knowledge of the protocol and write a program/software to do it.
thallium200 1 year ago
@thallium200 You would not know of any web pages that teach you the specs of DES or the new encryption and if they offer programs or talk about how to make programs to bust the old DES?
Dusty696969 1 year ago
@Dusty696969 I don't know of any. I still beleive that doing so would be illegal if you intended on listening to encrypted transmissions. To me its not worth the risk not to mention I dont thing there would be anyone to listen to since DES has been updated. I dont think anyone uses it anymore.
thallium200 1 year ago
@thallium200 Im just trying to learn more. I did contact my lawyer took look at what kind of law it would be breaking, and to as far as he could see its just listed under FCC rule as a illegal freq kinda like when listening to phone calls was big, but yet the frequencies are not illegal to listen to. So I don't know if its a listed law or not, about breaking encrypted transmission. Because phone freqs your not even supposed to have.
Dusty696969 1 year ago
@Dusty696969 The Electronic Communications Privacy Act (ECPA) specifically makes it illegal to even listen to encrypted transmissions. Given the nature of Federal radio use, listening may also vilolate other laws covered by the National Security Agency and considered a Federal security breach. Both of these are punnishable by inprisonment. You want to try it knock yourself out. Im sure not willing to risk it.
thallium200 1 year ago
@thallium200 Yeah that's whats listed for phone frequencies. I was not sure if contained the encrypted transmissions if there's a frequency that can be legally listened to , but has encrypted broadcast on it. I just did not see anything about encrypted broadcast. I always read before I do anything. But I don't plan to do it. I wouldn't even know where start. And if I planed on doing it "somehow" I would not be talking about it online. Thanks for the information.
Dusty696969 1 year ago
@thallium200 Like I said before its all knowledge to me. Nothing about trying or even wanting to do it.
Dusty696969 1 year ago
i am told were all going to encryption on police all over the usa like other countries have for counter terror ops and to knock out the "domestic threat" being they tell us the people of the country. seems our cert cards are going from upholding the constitution and serving people to upholding corporate politcal agenda law and control. major bs. they forget though most peoplewont buy into that b.s. whether its military or police.
oterotularosa 1 year ago
Yeah, my county just switched over to a radio system that can't be monitored with a scanner.
RayAir1 1 year ago
I think it depends where you live as far as how much will be encrypted. As of right now in Houston where I live it appears only the tac channels will/are be encrypted.
billybassman21 2 years ago
our dept was told every1 across thecountry in police by 2018 will be fully encrypted. the first ones to go first are large cities and southern or border states by mexico, and canada. of course the military always goes first. i disagree with the encryption. for one i cant hear the neighbor town in my unit. have2 use a state len channel or go through dispatch. even agencies r blocking fellow agenciesfrom monitoring eachother. hasto do with secure dept investigations on others or some b.s.
oterotularosa 1 year ago
I don't think anyone on here knows what encryption is. This radio is just a digital scanner not a digital encrypted scanner. A digital capable scanner has a digital card that has to be added separately because in many countries like Canada it is legal to have a digital scanner but completely illegal to have a digital card in it without a licence. Having a digital card will still not enable you to listen to the encrypted stuff.
Camman010 2 years ago
@Camman010
Exactly what you said.
Digital but not encrypted
wirepuller1951 2 years ago
Yeah I do know that the whole freq is not encrypted because if that was true I could not hear anyone on a trunk freq. But there is some kind of chip in the radios the makes the encryption work. At first I did not totally understand how encryption works. Thats why people have to research and ask questions to learn. Thats the only way. Right?
Dusty696969 2 years ago
I have this police scanner. Its great. I do get a lot more freqs now that I have this scanner that my old one cant pick up but what is encrypted freqs. dose this scanner un encrypt it by itself?
Dusty696969 2 years ago
I just watched a video about radios that have chips in them to make it encrypted. But just like when digital freqs started getting used, and when these encryption's start up, then people will start black market making chips to intercept and descramble the encryption's to where they will give up and scanners will then start having them installed anyway. Just give it time.
Dusty696969 2 years ago
Dusty, you seem to be confused it is not the frequency that is encrypted but the information that is being sent. Also the company that is using encryption can change the encryption codes when they want.
Camman010 2 years ago
Actually the scanner does not let you listen to encrypted frequencies... The garbled sound that you hear is a frequency that is using encryption and is unintelligible. You will probably never see a scanner that will be able to decrypt these signals.
jboyd00 2 years ago
@jboyd00 Thank you for sharing! Is it a legal issue in the U.S. to have a scanner decode encrypted signals? Right now, I hear MotoTRBO and ProVoice has been decoded through software using discriminator taps.
turbovectorz 1 year ago
p25 is just digital. as for encrypted such as nexedge closed air, moto des/mdc encoded/ pro voice, open sky, is illegal to monitor and no scanner will ever be able to. you could buy a 2way (illegal) but you still the numeric keys. which is impossible to guess. all our dept radios are read locked from people or officerswanting to read the dataand leak it or buy personnal stuff after leaving. has to do with the "terror" thing they keep preaching as to why leo will go encrypted all over oneday.
oterotularosa 1 year ago
is this a good unit or are there better ones that you would recomend? I want to listen to encrypted police radio from home.
mx444bee 2 years ago
@mx444bee Why would you want to listen to encryption? It's all unintelligible noise, no voice.
astrak1001 2 years ago
@mx444bee
The issue is that you can't legally unencrypt the encrypted part, so why would you want to hear "Turkey Talk"?
Now whether you should be able to hear that or not is another argument. I maintain that we should be able to hear ALL police and fire communication. I believe that encrypting it is illegal; but that's just me.
pblanton 2 years ago
what the hell is that? is that what encription does? makes them speak another language? lol
creamyfilling102 2 years ago
It looks like a different antenna on this video versus your other video? Any reason for this? Do you need a 800mhz antenna for this scanner?
KlagTerrow 2 years ago