I am not speaking of Exclusion www.gangaji.org

[uuusmar]

this is good.....including everything is a nice way to put the mind at ease in accepting oneself....undesired mistakes and flaws and all.....and others....and the crazy world we find ourselves in.....and becoming free to live and act how we really wish to

[sfiannacone]

include your hatred of Hitler. Because it's HERE! First tell the truth about your hatred, and stop telling a story about. Experience it directly. You will discover the substance of hatred. AND in the core of that...??

[sfiannacone]

include your hatred of Hitler.  Because it's HERE! First tell the truth about your hatred, and stop telling a story about. Experience it directly. You will discover the substance of hatred. AN in the core of that...??

[erwjae]

perhaps, perlaand, with your two questions you point yourself to your path, while with your two judgments you show yourself the barricades you throw up across it?

[perlaand]

is this a joke? what truth she's talking about? poor lady, she's lost and has no idea where she is...

[Hupellan]

@perlaand

1) Nope !

2) The truth of a liberated mind. Free from ALL conceptuall ideas and believes.

The "being lost" you refere to is acctually being free, and just being is all there is. No matter where one is.

[pikeydave]

@perlaand Exactly! how wonderful and wonderfully free she must feel!

Who are we in all of our confusion and fear to say 'she is lost'

anyway, no matter if your mind doesn't get it. The truth that you wonder that she is talking about is hearing and reacting to the words, as they are coming from the same truth

Namaste

[fredmace1]

@pikeydave I'm not in "confusion" or "fear". I'm where I always have been and always will be. There's no need to follow any path, gurus or going anywhere because there's nothing to search. What I am, I am. I'm just here. Have a nice one pikeydave.

[abhilashasooveet]

@perlaand ur funny

[perlaand]

@abhilashasooveet You're welcome. Allow me to give back what you gave me. I'm not sure why you think I'm funny, but whatever it is, it belongs to you ONLY. The "funny" part you're referring to is in you. What you see in me is no more than a reflection of your own mind. So, instead to point out, point in. You'd grow more securely than keep listening to complicated lectures of Synaesthesia and Mysticism. No one can tell you and I'm not exception, but just seat quite and listen. Cheers.

[RedLetterChristian]

what you speak of is the Tao but by defining what you perceive as the truth, even by claiming that you include everyone, all belief systems in the widest possible means. As soon as I disagree with you on that fundamental premise you are defining me as wrong in my belief and are just as dogmatic and exclusive as any other religion that you claim as fundamentalist and wrong. when you speak of the absolute as exclusively inclusive is wrong because the absolute is inclusively exclusive

[RedLetterChristian]

the absolute truth is never ever separate from the relative truth. now that is a bold faced lie. if this were really true you would whole heartedly embrace all that hitler stood for as right and true and correct and upright and righteous and you would be willing to die for that relative truth and put it into action yourself in it's fullest measure. so the next time you see a anything that is sub human and is in need of cleansing be sure to treat it as such. OR YOU COULD BE WRONG?!

[reggaemeditation]

@RedLetterChristian Excluding nothing, not prefering one way or thing over another, seeing the wholeness...What you're speaking of is the exact opposite, taking hitler as truth is excluding everything else, not what is being said here.

[karasulas]

@RedLetterChristian You're assuming that "including everything" somehow excludes hating Hitler's existence. This inclusion is not synonymous with "supporting things you disagree with".

[WORLDARYANREVIVAL]

really? um how would abrahamic culture lead one to this awareness? im tired of jews christians and muslims hijacking principles and practices from us! what do we take from u? nothing abrahamic religion has nothing we need or desire! all roads do not lead to the same place! stop separating our practices from their cultural and spiritual context!this is theft of an ugly kind!

[okydokysmoky]

Gangaji is coming to speak in Chicago in 2010! There will be two events held in Oak Park, IL as follows: April 10th (Sat) - public meeting; April 11th (Sun) - one day retreat.

See Gangaji's web site under "calendar of events", for details.

[christofeles63]

All the kindness has gone from her face since her cosmetic surgery. She used to have such a compassionate expression. Now she looks frozen, fearful, and even malicious. Her eyebrows are so high. Her mouth stretched taut. Oh God(dess) what was she thinking? So sad.

What a difference a face makes--ironically enough. But it's too late now. Did she think it would be good for business?

The harmony of inside and outside has been disrupted and I will never forgive her for shattering the illusion.

[fizywig]

but advaita can encompass duality but duality cant encompass advaita. as soon as you accept as an axiom that the one is not then the only way to non-duality or oneness is thru an operation of the mind, a counting as one which by definition is always dual.

[AnaEros]

The message I get from her is acceptance..she is awesome

[mclarsen61]

this woman is so awesome and inspiring!!!

much love and gratitude

[tellthetruth811]

what does she say she is not and invitist? how do you spell that so I can look it up

[worryphree]

advaita vedanta. comes from "veda."

[henjokongo]

Advaita Vedanta. I think it is Advaita Vedantan, rather than Vedantist.

[claudelebel55]

I did that plenty. Attempted to escape my incarnation via spirituality. A very common strategy which eventually must be seen through and let go of.

[19grand]

I read her book and thought it was brilliant. I'd no idea what she looked like - she is radiant.

[claudelebel55]

if you are tryint to be something then you are excluding. Most effort is about excluding, trying to get rid of, trying to impose and therefore exclude. Many years ago, I went for what I thought was enlightenment and fell solidly into the trap of exclusion and bound myself up nice an tight.

[cycleboy21]

This is so important.  To include the relative in the absolute. Thank-you Gangaji!

[RandomResponse]

By the way, my previous comment is in response to Serialsally, two comments below my original one.

[elshisu]

I makes real full sense. Wonderfull. A real wise woman. Speaks the Philosophia Perennis of the ages as someone that has realized it in life, not as someone that only understands it theorcally.

[serialsally]

is this babbling woman and all these silly abstractions raking in the bucks or what? i mean come on! what the heck does this have to do with global warming or AIDS or third world debt....pleazzzzzzzzze....this is bullshit - get your shovels ready boys and girls - Gancuca is here!

[RandomResponse]

It's a good question. She is being somewhat abstract. And her method of conveyance is kind of difficult to understand. What does it have to do with world problems? Well, her direct subject is one about existential interconnections. How all things are connected to each other. And her overarching theme, I think, is about how to find peace. With inner peace, all other problems are easier to address. There are many world crises. One not to be ignored might be called the crisis of the "soul".

[azulra]

Do gooders with no inner balance do more harm than good. Like getting poor people in rich countries to give money to rich people in poor countries. LOL. People without inner peace are usually serving their own needs first.

[jtram21]

Inclusion includes EVERYTHING. It even includes "exclusion". By definition, inclusion cannot exclude exclusion. Therefore, if we do exclude, we don't have to beat ourselves up, just include the exclusion as part of the Perfection and we transcend the exclusion.

[akimorient]

Thats what she says in her very first sentence: "Exclusion is appropriate and has it's place".

She continues to specify her point in saying: "Because we have been trained to exclude, the vastness of inclusion has been overlooked".

She does not state that someone should beat themselves up for excluding. What she is talking about are people who escape reality by excluding mundane reality. She does not judge this but points it out.

[jtram21]

I certainly was not implying that she told people to beat themselves up. I was also not implying that she is incorrect in her message. I am sorry that you saw that. I was simply reiterating an important point to remember which is good to do when using dualistic terms. Hopefully this response clears up any other confusion about my post.

[akimorient]

While I feel that my interpretation of your post was not due to confusion, but one plausible way to read it, I am happy that you did not mean it the way I read it.

[marinsberg]

thank you

[koanflyer]

uhm...j don't like

[jerrywanna96]

She should have an affair to get even.

[JUSTRELAXANENJOY]

In my eyes she is one of the greatest teachers in our time - she touches the truth in everyone who heard the "call home" - or rather is "READY" to reveal the BEING - your true nature -I prefer the term "silent aware presence"(but this is still just a POINTER to the unknowable that YOU ALREADY ARE!) just beyond the mask of our conditioning and the wall of ego-creating thoughts and reaktive pattern of behavior in wich we commonly get entangled.

*** SEE ALSO everything from JOHN SHERMAN!!!

[creolelatte]

I wonder how she is handling her husband Eli's affair with a devotee?

[GreggaryPeccary]

How do you know hes having an affair? Is the boulevard press interested in gurus?

[creolelatte]

I know because 1. a person from the inner circle told me, and 2. because I received e-mails on the subject from Gangaji's foundation and an invitation to a satsang where she discussed the matter as it was affecting that whole community. I did not attend the satsang and hence my question. Apparently this is not the first time Eli has betrayed his wife sexually.

[moana2222]

Hi creolelatte. My experience of Gangaji is that she always invites us to go beyond our thoughts of he-she, you-me and find what is there before,during and after thought. If you were to find a conclusive answer about Eli's fidelity/infidelity, what difference would it make? Actually. The mind can always make up more questions. Respectfully,

[creolelatte]

Hi Moana, I already have the conclusive answer about Eli's infidelity, he admitted it. I merely asked how Gangaji is handling it. Acceptance of the unacceptable is the greatest source of grace, so they say. and to Gregarry, I don't believe Eli is any more enlightened than the next person.

[guybillion]

ok why would you talk about this on youtube. That is so petty. You should have your head examined.

[GreggaryPeccary]

Well, enlightened or not, a guy stays a guy...

[dayron25]

She is simply wonderful :)

[zoso729]

i still dont get it

[snowdancer]

Exquisite!

[misstheoldy4h00]

She seems sincere.

[dfmrrd]

agree with all this. truth includes good and evil. If evil is not part of truth, then it would never have happened. Evil is just an effect of Karmic consequence of action and even thoughts...

Who am I is the biggest question for me.

[twilightlove]

This is how I have understood it: If you include your suffering as yourself, you welcome those whom you percieve as enemies as yourself there is a discovery that cannot be spoken. And that's my experience also. To welcome my suffering is how I STOP suffering. Suffering is wonderful once we come to know what it really is. When you welcome a feeling it changes and that's the secret.

[havaneezer]

If you believe in everything you end up believing in nothing.

[alig8er]

absadvaitanlutely .... everything's everything .... if everyone could dig what this lady's saying the human race would evolve to the next phase