RELIGIOUS HARDTALK JAMAICAN TV; ISLAM AHMADIYYA (Part 1/4)

[afmnasiruddin01]

Hey, You will get all the answers. Watch the programs in on Internet TV link- mta.tv

[SugerBoyMo]

Please do not remove my comments, I do not hate Qadiyanis and I condem any form of violence against them. These comments are intended to guide people to the truth.

P.S. Plese find me that authentic hadeeth that Mirza Gulam claims in his book Ruhani Khazain, Volume 21, page 359; lines 11-12 exists. He also claims there are many such hadeeths. Please provide me with one.

[MrAhmadimuslim]

@SugerBoyMo we are like that too we donn`t like violence etc. we just like you are ahmadies because evry thing we believe is based on holy quran sunna and hadith.if you sincerly get in touch with one of the representer of ahmadiyyat evry thing will be provied which is claims. you can find a phone number of an ahmadiyya mission house near your area. not just this claim but alot more which was fortold about imam mahdi a.s

[box2ali]

on 18 September BY SM2ART., Takbeer TV showed a FAKE CONVERSION OF A QADIYYANI SHAMSHAD QAMAR FROM FRANKFURT TO ISLAM. THIS IS ABSOLUTELY fake ANS prank telephone. no need to making drama and to tell lies ALLAH IS ENOUGH TO MAKE A DECISION WHO IS RIGHT OR WHO IS WRONG. HAR AIK QAOUM IS CHASHMA SEY PAANI PEIYE GEE

[hjamal200789]

Ahmadiyyat will continue to spread to all corners off the world!

[SugerBoyMo]

@hjamal200789 The false claims of Mirza Gulam will also be exposed to all corners of the world. Notice I did not attribute the name Ahmed to him. This is showing respect to the true prophet Muhummad SAW as Ahmed is his name. Therefore, to use the name Ahmed when referring to the imposter Gulam Mirza is disrespecting Muhummad SAW.

[MrAhmadimuslim]

@SugerBoyMo all ahmadies take hazrat mirza gulam ahmad a.s to be the immam mahdi. we donn`t believe this blindly. which you seems to think. this is all based on holy quran and hadith. so remember that. Allah will prove this with powerfull assaults to anti ahmadiyya who are fabricating stuff about ahmadiyya and spreading to corners of the world.

[SugerBoyMo]

@MrAhmadimuslim Have you read the ahadeth regarding Imam Mehdi? Imam Medi will be an Arab, Mirza Gulam was a Punjabi. Go read up the hadeeth for yourself instead of listening to your Murabis.

[MrAhmadimuslim]

@SugerBoyMo like i said before we donn`t believe this blindly. i know when i will tell my muabis about what you said what they would say. i hope you know that too. because they will have a lot to say with hadith which are supported by all muslim known scolors.

[SugerBoyMo]

@MrAhmadimuslim All muslim scholers are in agreement that Imam Mehdi will be an Arab. It's only the Qadiyanis that beleive he was a Punjabi

[MrAhmadimuslim]

@SugerBoyMo from known scolors one hadith is enough to shut today`s so call scolors. hadith in which holy prophet of islam pbuh put his hand on the shoulder of hazrat sulman farsi may Allah be pleased with him. i hope you the back around of this hadith which proves imam mahdi would not be from arabs

[SugerBoyMo]

@MrAhmadimuslim He did not say that imam mehdi will be from ant decent other than Arab. Your so called scholers never narate the full hadeeth, they only narate partial hadeeths which suit their false cult.

You can't preach your false beleifs to the majority of Arabs. Have you ever heard the saying "you can't sell fake dimonds to a jeweller"

Mirza Gulam could not convert India into Qadiyanism, let alone the entire muslim world. We muslims unanimously agree Mirza Gulam was a liar

[SugerBoyMo]

@MrAhmadimuslim Remember Mirza Gulam said 14th century, so the hadeth must state 14th century. If you can't provide me with the hadeeth then we can safely conclude that Mirza Gulam lied. The promised Messiah will not be a liar. The Mehdi means the guided one and does not lie.

The Islamic calender was produced by Hazrat Umer RA after the death of the holy Prophet Muhummed SW. Hadeeths are sayings of the prophet Muhummed SW, so how is it possible for the prophet to mention the 14th century ?

[SugerBoyMo]

@SugerBoyMo Ok, so you are convinced that Mirza Gulam was Imam Mehdi.

"In many Saheeh Ahadith it is written that the Promised Messiah will arrive at the beginning of a century, and he will be the Reformer of the fourteenth century."

(Ruhani Khazain, Volume 21, page 359; lines 11-12)

According to Mirza Gulam the Promised Messiah will arive at the begining of the fourteenth century. Can you please supply me with one authentic hadith which supports Mirza Gulams claim Cont..

[MrAhmadimuslim]

thanks a lot for sharing this video. the host was very entertaning. 

[Peaceworld111]

Sounds like a tolerant Nation! Pakistan could learn some lessons.

[UnderstandingAll]

Brother. Jesus has not died. He has risen up to his Rabb. Insha'Allah he will return to finish the Job he was appointed as the Messiah! However this can only happen until The Dajjal is in it's Physical "human" form which is a major sign of the Last days. May we return and be Steadfast upon the Sunnah of the Finial Prophet Muhammad (May Allah.s Peace and Blessings be up him) & May we make ask for the Forgiveness of Allah (SWT) before Death meets us or the Finial days are upon us.

[afmnasiruddin01]

@UnderstandingAll Dear Brother, Jesus (peace be upon him) survived the crucifixion and travelled towards India to continue his ministry among the Lost Tribes of Israel. Furthermore, they claim that his tomb, containing his body, has been recently re-discovered in India where it can be seen to this day. This belief is not only upheld by the Holy Qur'an and the Sayings of Muhammad saw, but even by the Holy Bible itself. Details Ref- alislam.org/topics/jesus/



[MissAfghanDoll]

@UnderstandingAll Brother, why are we waiting for this literal appearance of Jesus peace be upon him, will this strengthen Islam, or Christianity? Furthermore, why is the arrival of a human form of Dajjal (worker of shaytan), the trigger to arrival of our beloved Prophet? For the larger Muslim population brother, when these 2 do arrive, at their suggested appointed time, how will the consensus agree on their arrival and confirm their identity? Do you envision the scholars and Mullahs agreeing?

[MissAfghanDoll]

@UnderstandingAll Brother, why are we waiting for this literal appearance of Jesus peace be upon him, will this strengthen Islam, or Christianity? Furthermore, why is the arrival of a human form of Dajjal (worker of shaytan), the trigger to arrival of our beloved Prophet? For the larger Muslim population brother, when these 2 do arrive, at their suggested appointed time, how will the consensus agree on their arrival and confirm their identity? Do you envision the scholars and Mullahs agreeing?

[UnderstandingAll]

@Miss As-Salaamu'Alaikum. What we must understand is that the world in current times is very challenging to the Believers. We are waiting because it was a duty from Allah appointed to Isa(Pbuh) and as we know Allah keeps his(SWT) word. Dajjal will be the Greatest test for Believers because of his power ie. having ability to posses dead bodies making them talk. Isa(PBUH) duty as the Messiah is to complete the duty entailed with being the Messiah. Bring Peace to the dunya and expel all evil...

[UnderstandingAll]

we need to know for our Individual self's the signs of the Final days that our final Prophet (Pbuh) made clear 10 signs for his ummah 2/10 signs being the Return of Jesus The Messiah (*Peace be upon him) & Release of Dajjal (The False ONE eyed messiah and has the word "Kufir" written on his Forehead.) Brother the signs will be made clear as a sunny cloud-less day yet there will be many who denies what is clear. True scholars n mullahs upon the deen of Islam should be able 2 agree in The Qur'an

[IslamAhmadiya]

@UnderstandingAll The question about Jesus' (as) literal return would only come if Quran and hadith clearly talk about his un-natural life for the last 2000 years or so. Secondly, if you are waiting for a literal "hollywood movie like character in the person of Dajjal" to come, then I can't say much. As far as the beautiful rational teachings of Islam and Holy Prophet are concerned, this is what we understand by the term Dajjal: /watch?v=5tOLp2DoUv4

Heavenly sign for Mahdi: /watch?v=JXGCq78mxP8

[UnderstandingAll]

@diya why not Allah (سبحانه وتعالى) creates, sustains, nourishes, and owns everything, without exception. He(سبحانه وتعالى) if we can believe in the miracle of Isa (alaihi salaam) his birth, healing the blind giving life to the dead, feeding of 1000 men with a loaf of bread n fish and receiving his revelation called the Injil ALL by the grace & mercy from Allah (سبحانه وتعالى). What could leads us to deny the power and word of Allah (سبحانه وتعالى)? ... View of Jesus return watch?v=qO0XSD7E_QA

[IslamAhmadiya]

@UnderstandingAll Did I ever say that I doubt Allah's Powers? I just simply demanded clear proof from Quran and hadith that Jesus is still alive somewhere up in the skies for the last 2000 years. As far as miracles of Jesus (as) are concerned, they are no different from any other prophet of Allah. I think you are falling into the mistake of taking everything too literally. Jesus' birth was rare but not unnatural, he gave sight to the SPIRITUALLY blind, "fed" thousands with the spiritual food...

[IslamAhmadiya]

...revelation just like any other prophet. So it is not about "denying or accepting" the power and word of Allah, it is about PROOF. If you say that sun rose from the west yesterday because Allah has power over all things. It is not enough for me to believe in your statement unless you provide me with the proof. You are associating irrationality with Allah, so I simply need clear proof of this from Quran. Allah repeatedly instructs us to use AQL (wisdom) to understand, you want me to discard it?

[UnderstandingAll]

@Islam I sincerely believe that if we are True Muslim's then the proof has already been provided. "The Noble Glorious Qur'aan" confirming clarifying and or proving what Allah(سبحانه وتعالى) has said in the previous books and what is to Come. I dare not associate irrationality with Allah... but The Qur'aan is the final guide 2 mankind making it Unique and sightly different to previous books. ProphetMohamed(PBUH) explains with wisdom about Qur'aan in his Authentic Sunnah. We need to know the big

[IslamAhmadiya]

@UnderstandingAll That is my question to you. Where is the PROOF that he is physically, literally alive somewhere up in the skies for the last 2000 years or so and still awaiting his literal physical descent? Just saying that I am right and you are wrong doesn't change the facts. When Quran says to disbelievers: "Hatoo Burhanakum, inn kuntum saadiqeen" (Bring PROOF if you are truthful) then as Muslims it becomes our responsibility not to associate things with Allah without solid PROOF.

[UnderstandingAll]

@IslamAhmadiya The Noble Qur'aan is the Allah (SWT) words in the form of a recitation brought down by Gabriel the Archangel (PBUH) to the Final Prophet/Messenger Muhammad(PBUH) which manifested the recitation to paper hence calling the Qur'aan or {The Recitation of Allah} correct?

[IslamAhmadiya]

@UnderstandingAll Quran is the word of Allah revealed to Holy Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) through Angel Jibreel. I agree to that there is no doubt about it, however I would like you to come to the point and ask the question that you want to ask.

[UnderstandingAll]

@diya I just wanted to know we had a common belief. So now we understand the status of Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) and how important his words are we also should take into account the accurate Narrations of the companions(RA) of the Raasool(Pbuh).

[UnderstandingAll]

Ubaidah Bin Saamit(RA) says, Prophet Muhammad (SAWS) said “ I have explained DAJJAL to you,but I fear that you might not have understood. DAJJAL will be short, and his legs will be crooked.The hair on his head will be extremely twisted.If you have any doubt regarding DAJJAL, remember that your Sustainer (ALLAH), is not one eyed.Because DAJJAL will eventually claim to be God himself. His followers shall accept him as such.

[UnderstandingAll]

He will be able to split a person into two and then bring him back life again. This is a clear physical description of the accursed Dajjal. I hope this helped some what brother Peace be upon u.

[IslamAhmadiya]

@UnderstandingAll When one reads the ahadith of Holy Prophet (pbuh) about the Dajjal collectively with a pure heart, one can not in their imagination ever envisage Dajjal to be a literal physical man. You didn't mention the donkey of Dajjal, the one that would fly, float and walk and that would eat fire. People will sit in its belly. Its one jump will be from south to east etc. It will make month's worth of journey in days, days worth of journey in hours etc. Please see things with open mind.

[UnderstandingAll]

@IslamAhmadiya Wither it comes in the form of a spirit or a physical being it will come no doubt and it's something we should be aware of in order to guard against it. If we agree upon the Noble Qur'aan then allow to read Surah Kahf for more details upon this subject for Allahu'alem. As-salaamu' Alaikum.

[IslamAhmadiya]

@UnderstandingAll Yes brother, we believe that not only Dajjal has already come, its influence is everywhere. We believe that the Imam Mahdi and Promised Messiah has also come who had to fight this dajjal. Dajjal's influence has also been defeated by the teachings and Jamaat of Promised Messiah in this age. Those who have followed the teachings of Promised Messiah (who is the true servant of Holy Prophet Muhammad PBUH) honestly in this age are safe from the evil of Dajjal. Walaikumus salam.

[IslamAhmadiya]

@UnderstandingAll Watch late 4th Khalifa of Promised Messiah explaining our understanding of Dajjal according to the words of Holy Prophet Muhammad (pbuh):

Part 1: /watch?v=5tOLp2DoUv4

Part 2: /watch?v=0AY9lgE21JY

[UnderstandingAll]

@IslamAhmadiya the big picture it's not only about Dajjal that is just One of the Ten signs the Messenger(PBUH) warned us about... truth is it's about the Qiyamah preparing for it and achieving Paradise. Insha'Allah. Our deed was made simple by Allah we should keep it this way for that is more Logical for us than introducing our logic that may lead us going against what Allah (سبحانه وتعالى). has decreed.

[IslamAhmadiya]

@UnderstandingAll I am not "introducing my own logic" unlike yourself brother. I believe in the interpretation of Islam presented by somebody who claimed to be from ALLAH. It is the deniers of Promised Messiah who are introducing their own "logic or lack of it" on the verses of Holy Quran. When my Holy Prophet (pbuh) instructed us to pay his (Holy Prophet's) salam to Imam Mahdi and do bait even if we had to crawl through glaciers to reach him, then to me this is the way of Allah and paradise! 

[Nomiboy19]

yeah yeah yeah!