Exodus and Santorini Eruption debate -- National Geographic

[nixter888]

The JEW thinks that we're going to believe the fake story of the Bible!...GO HOME JEW!

[homlokomra]

The geophysical phenomena fit the report of the plagues of Egypt, but could have preceded the exodus by 159 years and been folk memory. The panting of the earth to part the waters of the Red Sea and the effect on the population to provide the incentive for emigration had to be contemporary, Since those two groups of volcanic phenomena are not likely to have been separated by 150 years, the inferenc is that the dating of eruption and exodus(separately arrived at) need re-examination.

[homlokomra]

CORRECTION:-In my previous post for immigrants read emigrants

homlokomra

[homlokomra]

Moses knew the Sinai desert well. What could the Israelite women do with the stolen jewels in the desert? Nothing, but borrowing of the jewels and running off with them was a stroke of genius by Moses.

The reluctant immigrants would no sooner be out of the area of the plagues, than the women would want to go back, but there were now two snags. One is that the women had got used to them, liked them, and traded them with each other.

The other was that they could not face their old neighbours.

[homlokomra]

You've guessed it The plagues of Egypt. They were supposed to make life hard for Pharaoh, but the same plagues made life much more uncomfortable for the Israelites."This place", they must have said, "was all very well in the past, but God knows what else will happen here next". Nothing but such all enveloping cicumstances could persuade a whole population to up sticks, and leg it.

It is difficult to imagine other such all embracing circumstances affecting everyone equally.

Keep watching

[homlokomra]

The other factor which makes it likely that the two dates coincided is also included in the records. The people did not want to go. Slaves they may have been, but they were comfortable enough to have been able to borrow their Egyptian neighbours jewels. Far better the status quo in Egypt than the uncertainties of travelling to an unknown destination. It is difficult enough to get three people to agree to anything, let alone twelve tribes. What made the status quo suddenly unacceptable ? Guess!

[homlokomra]

It is not just that the waters of the Red Sea parted at a convenient moment of time. It is also reported that the waters rerurned annd discomfited the pursueing Egyptians. That is in keeping with panting, as opposed to some other effect (except wind)

How likely is it that two such geophysical phenomena as those described happened twice in a two hundred year period? If the dates of Santorini and Exodus are incorrect by a mere 100 years. Then things suddenly make sense. Watch this space

[homlokomra]

Before and AFTER an eruption on the scale of that at Santoriri there is bound to be panting of the earth over a wide area. Such panting would go largely unobserved, because every patch around the observer would be subject to the same effect, which would taper away towards the edges of the area. An exception to that fact would be a long strech of shallow water like the Red Sea. There a minor pant of the earth would cause the water to drain away during the pant, and then return.

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[homlokomra]

The lack of fish in the rivers would produce a flush of flying insects from the water, because their larvae had not beeen eaten, The decaying corpses of the plague of frogs would provide another source of flying insects and flies.

All those normal pre-eruption events, seen as plagues, could have been folk memory encorporatred into the story of the Exodus, but the parting of the waters for the passage of the Israelites would seem to have to be contemporary.

Keep watching this space.

[homlokomra]

If the eruption of Santorini did predate the exodus by about two-hundred years, the Hebrew scribes would have known about it. Perhaps they just incorporated the historical experience of the pillars of smoke and fire into the folk memory of the Exodus. If so there is a significant connection.

They would then also have incorporated the geophysical pre-explosion phenomena like rivers turned to blood (red algae) and plague of frogs (because the fish died, so the tadpoles lived.)

Watch this space

[homlokomra]

Carbon dating suggests that the explosion of Santorini was earlier than the estimated date of the Exodus. carbon dating may be accurate, but no chemical analysis is better than the sampling. Is it likely that smoke and fire could be seen in a northwesterly direction from Egypt twice in a period of a mere two hundred years ?

Could there have been a second eruption of Santorini hundred and fifty years after the main one, that finished off the Minoan culture in Crete ?

Keep watching this space

[homlokomra]

Carbon dating suggests that the explosion of Santorini was earlier than the estimated date of the Exodus. carbon dating may be accurate, but no chemical analysis is better than the sampling. Is it likely that smoke and fire could be seen in a northwesterly direction from Egypt twice in a period of a mere two hundred years ?

Could there have been a second eruption of Santorini hundred and fifty years after the main one, that finished off the Minoan culture in Crete ?

Keep watching this space.

[homlokomra]

The main explosion of Santorini took place about 1400-1600 BC.

The Exodus took place about 1400-1600 BC.

There can be little doubt that the smoke from the explosion of Santorini could have been seen from northern Egyptby day.

There can be equally little doubt that the light from the eruption of Santorini could have been seen from northern Egypt by night. There is no doubt that the Israelites lived in norther Egypt at that time. What brings the two events together? Watch this space.

[olh1152]

@draconusrex33, I live through my own efforts. What I have accomplished in life, someone did it for me or I did it myself. No invisible man. Think about it.

[olh1152]

All the great stories of the bible are all false claims. What hs God done in the last 2000 years. Nothing. I have been alive for the last 45 and God still has not done nothing.