Continuous Feed Gasification System to Syn-Gas or Diesel

[lakewood85]

Wtf this video sucks. A waste of youtube server space. Redo, redo, redo.

[heald269]

I must say I think I know less about how this system works after I watched the video than what I did before seeing it. Very uninformative good work. Not!

[silenceimurderyou]

You all seem to take this pretty personally. I don't see the need for angry discourse and insults.

[Unibomber2u]

Looks like batch fed to me. Won't work. Advice: Ignore my arrogance. Shred the MSW conveyor it to a hopper. Ditch the auger feed, use a large retort tube set horizontally on casters 10 deg. angle in a oven rotating approx 5 RPM. Build a dryer of similiar design above the converter to remove moisture. material drops to a continuous feed hydraulic ram with each load the next seal. Conveyor belts to move material from hopper to dryer. Air tight auger fed char bin. Then you will have a solution.

[Unibomber2u]

You're absolutely incorrect about the advantages of auger fed system. Your ignorant psi from hydraulics. Cloggs never occurred. Using a ram will eliminate the need for air locks. Achieving a air tight seal around an auger is a challenge, Explains oxygen starved instead of oxygen free as a ram will ensure. Air locks in order to use an auger is why your batch fed. System can not be used on a commercial scale without having a reliable continuos flow of feed stock. Period.

[Unibomber2u]

Who produced this video. This has to be the least informative video I have seen. For continuous flow why does the auger stop? Appears to be gravity fed from top to bottom using air locks. It sure appears to be batch fed judging from the guy on the scissor bed dumping processed MSW into the chute. How about raw MSW can your system handle this type of material? If not, there is a big expense and manpower to sort out materials that can damage the equipment from the waste stream. Pretty Cheezy!

[Unibomber2u]

Video shows "Processed" MSW. What process has been performed to classify MSW as Processed MSW? It looks black like it has been burned previously whatever the processing does.

[Unibomber2u]

The airlock drops the MSW on the augers? Video just says "Gas" is this produced methane gas? is the system self sustaining if so, what percentage of the produced gas is needed to accomplish this? Have you ever injected paints, thinners, solvents or tried rubber tires, sewer sludge, medical red bag hazardous waste? Video said 500 F why such a low temperature. Your video shows output and labels it Ash, if pyrolisis occured this would be char the carcinegencs are non leachable in char. Why ash?

[Unibomber2u]

Why only wood. We converted MSW, Sewer Sludge, Hazardous Waste, Toxic Waste, Red Bag Hospital Waste easily using a Hydraulic Ram. Your on the right track but, the retort tube should turn and remove the auger material is exposed far better this way. All materials should be shredded then dried in the waste stream using waste heat from the converter the char is black unless exposed to air before cooling. Non toxic Char!

[Unibomber2u]

Augers are the only way you know how to introuduce material into the retort tube. I ran a system continuously using a Hydraulic Ram the only time it ever clogged was when we ran sewer sludge only. Worked fine when introuduced into waste stream. The hole size on either side of tube used by the ram was only slightly smaller. 1 stroke was used as a plug the next pushed it in and a new plug was in place, This worked flawlessly only augers were in the Hopper then conveyor belts to move shredded stock

[molinobeer]

For is used the black carbon? Isn't it pollutant?

[Unibomber2u]

@molinobeer No carbon char if allowed to cool before being exposed to oxygen not only will not leach but, has a commercial value as a filtering agent.

[DieEisenschmied]

"Condensed water"? WTF is condensed water? It's condensed steam, which IS water.

[Unibomber2u]

@DieEisenschmied I questioned that myself. What's with the No Burns Comment? This has nothing to do with the technology just means they used heat resistant materials as a insulation. Don't get it! How many Tons Per Day can this type of gravity batch fed system convert in a day? I bet maybe a ton. Big solution you would need 5,000 of these units lumbering along to handle the daily garbage of a small town. But, The only burns would be to the investors.

[Unibomber2u]

You people and your augers running through the retort tube is cumbersome inefective for exposing all the materials and too slow. Try removing the augers and turning the retort tube at a 5% angle with fins inside the tube to tumble the material which will expose all of it. Maintain a air lock by using a hydraulic ram to introduce material into the retort with each stroke acting as the new plug to maintain a oxygen free environment. Free Advice.

[astrialkil]

@Unibomber2u Augers are more reliable as they force a clog down the pipe. With inclined pipe you could get a clog and have no real way to clear it with out shutting down and opening the pipe.

[Unibomber2u]

@astrialkil Ah but what if there is no clog? We used a hydraulic ram flawlessly and eliminates the need for air lock equipment which changes your design from continual flow to batch fed which is a cumbersome and slow process. Have you ever experimented with a Hydraulic Ram? MSW and other similiar materials no way will cause a clog a hydraulic ram cannot push through. If it gets stuck increase the psi problem solved.

[Unibomber2u]

Pretty Cheezy!

[Unibomber2u]

If you are extracting the gases through pyrolisis from MSW then the residuel would not be ash, which is a result of burning the MSW and this causes all kinds of environmental concerns and the ash would have to be treated as a hazardous waste, since carcinigens can leach into the water supply. Pyrolisis is performed with the absence of oxygen and the residue is carbon char which is non-leaching and considered safe for disposal. Which is it a Pyrolitic Converter or a Incinerator?

[rocks2rocks06]

Your just devolatising the material its still glowing from all the fixed carbon left in the ash well you could all ways turn it to briquettes and have a bbq.

[astrialkil]

@rocks2rocks06 Or sell the briquettes!

[deauzie]

what heats the wood at start up ? LPG or

NATURAL GAS then do you switch it over to wood gas once it starts producing it

[quuaa1]

yeah, it takes energy to make energy, most power plants use massive amounts of electricity during startup also, so that's pretty normal

[Unibomber2u]

@quuaa1 Being a expert in a similiar process the electricity requirements are minimal and constant to power the support equipment such as augers. The power needed to run electric motors and natural gas needed at start-up are not an issue in the slightest considering the unit will be self sustaining for months and possibly years without being shut down.

[deauzie]

can you post a video of your smallest unit ?

do you have them running generators ?