the weakness is the flagging-system. flag a video often enough and it gets suspended. you just need to hate freedom of speech, need to have 100 sock accounts, and time, then you can silence everyone you want here on youtube.
its insane. every day channels that criticze islam or scientology get suspended because of this, and youtube does not see a reason to do anything about it.
Remember: The IRL raids are effective & fun by keeping Co$ off balance, but the larger mission is to remove Co$'s tax exemption status. Write, email, call, or otherwise communicate to all your Reps on City, County, State, & Federal levels describing why this business should not have tax exemption status as a church. The pressure of numbers work in a democracy. We all need to do this on a monthly basis to keep up the pressure. Contact info in the phonebook & on the net. This will cripple Co$
yes, of course, but its quite easy for me to miss this point...
here in germany scientology is considered a destructive cult by the gouvernment, when it comes to taxes they are considered a profit-oriented business. but scientology is still active and making money in germany. there is a chance that scientology might get outlawed in germany, and if this happens then the organisation would be entirely destroyed within days/weeks. at least here in germany. we already are a few steps further ;)
I am so glad to see that your country is taking the initiative and doing what few others have the cojones to do: taking a stand against the CO$. Bravo! Hopefully, the rest of the world will follow suit very soon.
not everything is working that well. religious fundamentalism appears to be a hydra: if you chop off one head, two new heads grow. jehovas witnesses just got recognized as a religion in berlin, and other states of germany might follow. and in germany, jehovas witnesses have at least 10 times more followers than scientology. they also cause more psychological damage to their followers than almost all other cults (including scientology). but there is hope.
some hundred thousands of them were given out when the movie ``v for vendetta´´ launched, but only in some countries. in other countries you could only buy them as merchandise for a short period of time. i guess ebay is the only solution, or you might check out stores that sell merchandise for movies. or make one out of paper, there are instructions on the internet.
YIDOWNSYOU. Wrong, your actions demonstrate their are immature anonymous. However what you stated so eloquently is indeed the history of anonymous. Who would have thought something so great could have evolved from such shady beginnings? Yes, there will always be anonymous such as yourself; for some it'll be a phase, for others a way of life. Anonymous has no leaders but you're always judged by your actions and you're always responsible for you're actions.
nothing has evolved. the vast majority of anons are still doing the same old shit, and there is an insignificant little splinter group protesting scientology. the numbers protesting scientology have taken a massive decrease. The man who orchestrated the ddos attacks against scientology is now orchestrating attacks against enturbulation. It was a little fad and now it's dying. new anonymous will finish, old anonymous will expand and prosper as usual
Just so we're clear you're part of young anonymous as in childish and immature. Neither is going to die out. Mature anonymous actually occurred because young anonymous unwittingly ignited an undercurrent of feelings against the church of scientology. Now the fire is lit it is going to be hard to put it out now matter how much young anonymous might try to rain on its parade. Anyway, I am going to let the baby have its bottle and give you final say, be as vitriolic as you can I don't care.
i'm not childish or immature, you are an intellectually condescending twat. i am not "anonymous" either. anyone who goes around calling them self anonymous is a twat who completely misses the point. INTERNET IS NOT SERIOUS BUSINESS. you are a newfag. no one is trying to "put out the flame". you arent even allowed in the *chans anymore. what effect could you possibly have? chanology has decreased.
its not allowed for protesters to wear masks here in germany. sunglasses are okay, but you may not hide your face completely. i think it is because if you have riots, you normally have a large group protesting peacefully and a few individuals that throw stones and do other stuff hiding inside the group, and if they have to show their faces its easier to identify the violent people and arrest them while the peaceful protest can continue.
Indeed the moonies have been around for some time and they are a bit of a nasty cult too, but they are waaaay smaller than scientology after all scientology has Tom Cruise, (ok so he's quite small, but you get my drift) who do the moonies have?
The size of the cult is about 500,000. That is pretty large. What is concerning about the Moonies (Unification Church) is that Moon owns a very influential newspaper and he is a very powerful Republican. We've all seen the results of that. After all, Bush/Cheney and company have practically destroyed America. They might not have been able to do it without Moon's help. His newspaper is a right wing propaganda rag that has been caught telling outright lies several times.
Sounds very much like a USA issue sadly; although I appreciate how that could become a world issue it is very hard to combat something predominately in the USA from outside it.
they gave us permission to play music for 10 minutes per hour, and during that time the protesters were allowed to wear masks. normally it is prohibited by law for protesters to hide their faces, i dont know if the police gave us some kind of very special permission or if they just made us aware of some kind of gap in the law that we can use.
roostring: here in germany, the police officers arent mean and evil and arrogant. they dont need to have this aura of being strong. they are more on equal level to the other people. they even stay friendly when they catch you because of something ;)
they only get angry when it is about violent crimes. and they can talk quite openly, compared to other countries. so you get ``i am doing this because its my job, but personally i would react the same / do something else / whatever´´.
you conservative *chan pussy anons are so deeply infiltrated by the cult of scientology, noone takes you serious anymore. anon has changed. anon is this powerful entity that manages to get global protests organized and gets media attention and might destroy scientology and all that stuff. you old anons are just... internet kiddies. random online anarchists. insignificant.
news flash you wanker, anonymous hasn't changed a bit. all of these douchebags talking about scientologists infiltrating anon are just thinking up excuses for everyone turning against them. and 420chan was against the scientology raid before scientologists even knew it was happening. there was a stciky on 420chan by kirtaner the admin saying that the raid was lame. everyone agreed.
a multi-million dollar industry will not be affected by a bunch of kids holding up signs
and also, anon is not serious business. the point of it is to do funny little things on the internet. sometimes very immoral things, like phone bombing the relatives of dead kids. that was one of the first big raids by the people who brought you project chanology
no real anon goes around talking about anon, thats why we are anon
the protests are really effective, many people get informed about the cult because of it, and many people get out of the cult because of it. scientology loses a lot of money.
you old anons are just insignificant, get it into your head. noone cares about you. anon has changed, and you bastards wont be able to talk away what has happened. project chanology is bigger than anything that anon has ever done in the past.
why are you fighting so hard to defend scientology?
i'm not defending scientology and LMAO @ chanology being the biggest thing anon has done. you don't know shit about what anon has done. stfu.
don't you remember when cult of the dead cow attacked scientology? they were twice as effective as anon and they still did nothing. your continuous arrogant comments just show how little you know about anon
anon has not changed. compare the trafic on 7chan with the traffic on enturbulation
protestfags make up like 0.5% of people calling them self anon
You are young anonymous while we are grown up anonymous. We each have our place. You can become grown up anonymous any time. Some say you were the spark and we are the fire. You can join the fire anytime. You are the anonymous who've yet to mature, the ones who think to do so will loose the lulz, the hangers on to the childish ways of the fledgling anarchic anonymous. The ones who've yet to realise that having no leaders carries with it great responsibility. You attach too much to being anon.
anonymous1312: i couldnt have said it better, i agree completely.
and a message to all the anons that defend scientology and attack chanology: fuck you, noone cares about you. most people dont even know that you exist, while the NEW face of anonymous is famous now.
i think that the old and the new anons can coexist, but if the old anons try to defend scientology by stopping chanology, then fuck them, this project is too big to let some idiots ruin it.
people are talking about the new version of anon. noone cares about you 4chan-pussy-anons, so just go somewhere else, do your stupid pranks, stay insignificant.
but you will not be able to stop chanology, so dont even try. stay in your cave. if you prefer imagined self-importance over real significance, then so be it. but dont defend scientology.
this is probarbly because we had some trouble with totalitarian systems in the past (an understatement, i know). and the idea that we should keep this from happening again is in the back of the heads of many people here. and scientology clearly is a totalitarian system ;)
nestorrfortuna: watch my 2-part video about Scientology, brainwashing, coercive persuasion.
scientology just is a totalitarian system. criticism is punished, even attempt of criticism is punished. information is highly controlled. language is controlled. the victim is powerless, the system all powerful. the system is infallible. if there is a problem, its always the scientologist that gets punished, there is no mercy.
scientology could be the DEFINITION of a totalitarian system.
i will still make a video calling out youtube on their bullshit and upload it to youtube AND liveleak.
after all, malasonja1 is still suspended.
kurtilein3 3 years ago
the weakness is the flagging-system. flag a video often enough and it gets suspended. you just need to hate freedom of speech, need to have 100 sock accounts, and time, then you can silence everyone you want here on youtube.
its insane. every day channels that criticze islam or scientology get suspended because of this, and youtube does not see a reason to do anything about it.
kurtilein3 3 years ago
torymagoo44 suspended... youtube is crazy.
i will re-upload one of the best of torymagoo44's videos to my own channel as soon as possible.
kurtilein3 3 years ago
WARNING someone is impersonating Tory, using Torymagoo69...and her videos...report it to xenu and the FBI and other law inforcement.
dchoiceisalwaysrs 3 years ago
and now torymagoo44 is suspended O_o
i will make a video about this and re-upload one of torymagoo44's videos.
kurtilein3 3 years ago
Anonymous is here to help!
Not one more soul need die
On my honor I swear to you
Never again will this happen
You left Lisa to rot
Mainly cause she cried out
Only to be helped
Unappreciated she was
Stop the madness you must!
jdtrickster4 3 years ago
Remember: The IRL raids are effective & fun by keeping Co$ off balance, but the larger mission is to remove Co$'s tax exemption status. Write, email, call, or otherwise communicate to all your Reps on City, County, State, & Federal levels describing why this business should not have tax exemption status as a church. The pressure of numbers work in a democracy. We all need to do this on a monthly basis to keep up the pressure. Contact info in the phonebook & on the net. This will cripple Co$
synonymous33 3 years ago
yes, of course, but its quite easy for me to miss this point...
here in germany scientology is considered a destructive cult by the gouvernment, when it comes to taxes they are considered a profit-oriented business. but scientology is still active and making money in germany. there is a chance that scientology might get outlawed in germany, and if this happens then the organisation would be entirely destroyed within days/weeks. at least here in germany. we already are a few steps further ;)
kurtilein3 3 years ago
I am so glad to see that your country is taking the initiative and doing what few others have the cojones to do: taking a stand against the CO$. Bravo! Hopefully, the rest of the world will follow suit very soon.
graph180 3 years ago
not everything is working that well. religious fundamentalism appears to be a hydra: if you chop off one head, two new heads grow. jehovas witnesses just got recognized as a religion in berlin, and other states of germany might follow. and in germany, jehovas witnesses have at least 10 times more followers than scientology. they also cause more psychological damage to their followers than almost all other cults (including scientology). but there is hope.
kurtilein3 3 years ago
no not that mask i have one of those hahahahahaha... I mean your face
kingxxxno0bxxx 3 years ago
dude where did u get that mask at..im going to buy one of those for april 12
kingxxxno0bxxx 3 years ago
some hundred thousands of them were given out when the movie ``v for vendetta´´ launched, but only in some countries. in other countries you could only buy them as merchandise for a short period of time. i guess ebay is the only solution, or you might check out stores that sell merchandise for movies. or make one out of paper, there are instructions on the internet.
kurtilein3 3 years ago
YIDOWNSYOU. Wrong, your actions demonstrate their are immature anonymous. However what you stated so eloquently is indeed the history of anonymous. Who would have thought something so great could have evolved from such shady beginnings? Yes, there will always be anonymous such as yourself; for some it'll be a phase, for others a way of life. Anonymous has no leaders but you're always judged by your actions and you're always responsible for you're actions.
anonymous1312 3 years ago
nothing has evolved. the vast majority of anons are still doing the same old shit, and there is an insignificant little splinter group protesting scientology. the numbers protesting scientology have taken a massive decrease. The man who orchestrated the ddos attacks against scientology is now orchestrating attacks against enturbulation. It was a little fad and now it's dying. new anonymous will finish, old anonymous will expand and prosper as usual
anonymity prevents judgement.
yidhacksy0u 3 years ago
Just so we're clear you're part of young anonymous as in childish and immature. Neither is going to die out. Mature anonymous actually occurred because young anonymous unwittingly ignited an undercurrent of feelings against the church of scientology. Now the fire is lit it is going to be hard to put it out now matter how much young anonymous might try to rain on its parade. Anyway, I am going to let the baby have its bottle and give you final say, be as vitriolic as you can I don't care.
anonymous1312 3 years ago
O LOOK AT ME. IM SUPRA ANONYMOUS!!!!111!
i'm not childish or immature, you are an intellectually condescending twat. i am not "anonymous" either. anyone who goes around calling them self anonymous is a twat who completely misses the point. INTERNET IS NOT SERIOUS BUSINESS. you are a newfag. no one is trying to "put out the flame". you arent even allowed in the *chans anymore. what effect could you possibly have? chanology has decreased.
you are the cancer that's killing /b/
yidhacksy0u 3 years ago
I agree with you on that last sentence by the way, but only with respect to your brand of anonymity.
anonymous1312 3 years ago
henrythesteinberg is now blocked because he is trying to undermine the activism that is currently going on against scientology.
if intended or not, he is defending and helping scientology while doing so. and i dont like people that defend this criminal organisation.
kurtilein3 3 years ago
- i love your sh!t dude.
soMEauSSiEBEaN 3 years ago 2
its not allowed for protesters to wear masks here in germany. sunglasses are okay, but you may not hide your face completely. i think it is because if you have riots, you normally have a large group protesting peacefully and a few individuals that throw stones and do other stuff hiding inside the group, and if they have to show their faces its easier to identify the violent people and arrest them while the peaceful protest can continue.
kurtilein3 3 years ago
The Moony cult is dangerous too. Moon is very powerful in the US. Check out this YT video-Sun Myung Moon crowned King of Peace at Senate Building.
SomeBSUTubeName 3 years ago
Indeed the moonies have been around for some time and they are a bit of a nasty cult too, but they are waaaay smaller than scientology after all scientology has Tom Cruise, (ok so he's quite small, but you get my drift) who do the moonies have?
anonymous1312 3 years ago
The size of the cult is about 500,000. That is pretty large. What is concerning about the Moonies (Unification Church) is that Moon owns a very influential newspaper and he is a very powerful Republican. We've all seen the results of that. After all, Bush/Cheney and company have practically destroyed America. They might not have been able to do it without Moon's help. His newspaper is a right wing propaganda rag that has been caught telling outright lies several times.
SomeBSUTubeName 3 years ago
Sounds very much like a USA issue sadly; although I appreciate how that could become a world issue it is very hard to combat something predominately in the USA from outside it.
anonymous1312 3 years ago
What ideas did the police give you to better organize.
thecoyote 3 years ago
they gave us permission to play music for 10 minutes per hour, and during that time the protesters were allowed to wear masks. normally it is prohibited by law for protesters to hide their faces, i dont know if the police gave us some kind of very special permission or if they just made us aware of some kind of gap in the law that we can use.
kurtilein3 3 years ago
Hey kurtilein3, I watched the German protests and I enjoyed them very much. Did you happen to attend those? They did a very good job in my opinion.
CommentOpener 3 years ago
ive been at the last protest in munich, it was great :)
small but incredibly effective and a lot of fun.
kurtilein3 3 years ago
Your police are helpful and friendly?
Mind-boggling...
Roostring 3 years ago
police helpful, friendly? I thought their job was to be jack booted thugs and harrass innocent people. That's what cops do here..
CultofScientology 3 years ago
roostring: here in germany, the police officers arent mean and evil and arrogant. they dont need to have this aura of being strong. they are more on equal level to the other people. they even stay friendly when they catch you because of something ;)
they only get angry when it is about violent crimes. and they can talk quite openly, compared to other countries. so you get ``i am doing this because its my job, but personally i would react the same / do something else / whatever´´.
kurtilein3 3 years ago
ah this fucking shit again
kurtilein, do some research on anon and you will see that this little protesting sect is as far removed from anon as possible
ever wonder why the Scientology raids have been moved onto enturbulation?
its because anonymous banned them from talking about it in the *chans
they arent anonymous anymore. they are outcasts
henrythesteinberg 3 years ago
butthurt much?
EvilZoe 3 years ago
what could i possibly be butthurt over?
you dumb cunt
henrythesteinberg 3 years ago
How does this change the fact that Scientology is a dangerous cult that needs to be stopped.
CultofScientology 3 years ago
i agree. but anonymous has no reason to do it. i need to have my garbage picked up but i don't want my postman doing it
henrythesteinberg 3 years ago
henrythesteinberg: its the other way around.
you conservative *chan pussy anons are so deeply infiltrated by the cult of scientology, noone takes you serious anymore. anon has changed. anon is this powerful entity that manages to get global protests organized and gets media attention and might destroy scientology and all that stuff. you old anons are just... internet kiddies. random online anarchists. insignificant.
kurtilein3 3 years ago
news flash you wanker, anonymous hasn't changed a bit. all of these douchebags talking about scientologists infiltrating anon are just thinking up excuses for everyone turning against them. and 420chan was against the scientology raid before scientologists even knew it was happening. there was a stciky on 420chan by kirtaner the admin saying that the raid was lame. everyone agreed.
a multi-million dollar industry will not be affected by a bunch of kids holding up signs
you know NOTHING of anon
henrythesteinberg 3 years ago
and also, anon is not serious business. the point of it is to do funny little things on the internet. sometimes very immoral things, like phone bombing the relatives of dead kids. that was one of the first big raids by the people who brought you project chanology
no real anon goes around talking about anon, thats why we are anon
lurk more
henrythesteinberg 3 years ago
the protests are really effective, many people get informed about the cult because of it, and many people get out of the cult because of it. scientology loses a lot of money.
you old anons are just insignificant, get it into your head. noone cares about you. anon has changed, and you bastards wont be able to talk away what has happened. project chanology is bigger than anything that anon has ever done in the past.
why are you fighting so hard to defend scientology?
kurtilein3 3 years ago
i'm not defending scientology and LMAO @ chanology being the biggest thing anon has done. you don't know shit about what anon has done. stfu.
don't you remember when cult of the dead cow attacked scientology? they were twice as effective as anon and they still did nothing. your continuous arrogant comments just show how little you know about anon
anon has not changed. compare the trafic on 7chan with the traffic on enturbulation
protestfags make up like 0.5% of people calling them self anon
henrythesteinberg 3 years ago
You are young anonymous while we are grown up anonymous. We each have our place. You can become grown up anonymous any time. Some say you were the spark and we are the fire. You can join the fire anytime. You are the anonymous who've yet to mature, the ones who think to do so will loose the lulz, the hangers on to the childish ways of the fledgling anarchic anonymous. The ones who've yet to realise that having no leaders carries with it great responsibility. You attach too much to being anon.
anonymous1312 3 years ago
anonymous1312: i couldnt have said it better, i agree completely.
and a message to all the anons that defend scientology and attack chanology: fuck you, noone cares about you. most people dont even know that you exist, while the NEW face of anonymous is famous now.
i think that the old and the new anons can coexist, but if the old anons try to defend scientology by stopping chanology, then fuck them, this project is too big to let some idiots ruin it.
kurtilein3 3 years ago
"sometimes very immoral things"
So you're saying that scientology is a moral example for everyone to follow? XD
If Anon is indeed immoral, what does that say about scientology?
YosizawaHitomi 3 years ago
i never said i liked scientology
henrythesteinberg 3 years ago
QUOTE "no real anon goes around talking about anon, thats why we are anon"
So you're not a real anon either then. :-p
anonymous1312 3 years ago
when people are talking about anon this fucking much i have to add input
you have anonymous in your name, you arent anonymous you newfag piece of shit
get back to 4chan you cunt
henrythesteinberg 3 years ago
people are talking about the new version of anon. noone cares about you 4chan-pussy-anons, so just go somewhere else, do your stupid pranks, stay insignificant.
but you will not be able to stop chanology, so dont even try. stay in your cave. if you prefer imagined self-importance over real significance, then so be it. but dont defend scientology.
kurtilein3 3 years ago
Hello from Canuckland {canada}!!!!
AnonOutreach 3 years ago
Die Gedanken sind frei
lamnaa 3 years ago
ausser bei scientology ;)
kurtilein3 3 years ago
I´ll check it, and if there´s a protest near my hometown, I´ll join in. (I doubt there will be, since I live in the middle of nowhere)
kirafan68 3 years ago
bravo to all in germany. i applaud your gov'ts decision to treat scientology with suspicion.
jnycnuk 3 years ago 3
this is probarbly because we had some trouble with totalitarian systems in the past (an understatement, i know). and the idea that we should keep this from happening again is in the back of the heads of many people here. and scientology clearly is a totalitarian system ;)
kurtilein3 3 years ago
The only downside is it makes monarchists look like Nazis when they fly the old flag.
lamnaa 3 years ago
totalitarian system?
nestorrfortuna 3 years ago
I hope you're not serious, Nestor.
PISTOLcm 3 years ago
i do not understand why scientology would be a totalitarian system.
by the way, fuck scientology, fuck it up her fucking ear
nestorrfortuna 3 years ago
nestorrfortuna: watch my 2-part video about Scientology, brainwashing, coercive persuasion.
scientology just is a totalitarian system. criticism is punished, even attempt of criticism is punished. information is highly controlled. language is controlled. the victim is powerless, the system all powerful. the system is infallible. if there is a problem, its always the scientologist that gets punished, there is no mercy.
scientology could be the DEFINITION of a totalitarian system.
kurtilein3 3 years ago
i have studied what you said and i agree. as a cult like belief system and the cuasi-mind-control used by scientol i agree it is a total systm
nestorrfortuna 3 years ago
Hi, Kurtilein! Sorry I am too far from any action but I am with Anon in spirit.
auchraw 3 years ago