Philosopher Gregory Sams on The Moore Show

[CrystalR73]

@tehbible Graham himself has done ayuhuasca, & said it was literally out of this world!... Man I love this guy, & all of his books.... If it wasn't for ppl like him many of us would just continue to be conditioned to think I certain way.... Much respect Mr. Hancock :-)

[phineazz273]

thank you very much great information on living, growing, evolving with the world rather than in it keep up the gr8t work and thank you for sharing the knowledge jah love jah bless jah rastafari

[SouPress]

The festival in Hungary he's talking about was OZORA 2011. He held a lecture there (Friday at the Magic Garden).

It really was one of the best editions of the festival, an out of this world experience!

Thank you OZORA, thank you Gregory Sams, and thank you Graham Hancock!!

[gregasola]

@ jefferdaughter – Yes, if consciousness itself pervades the electro-magnetic fabric of the Universe then it becomes impossible to define because it infuses everything. Funny that our consciousness is more baffled by itself than almost anything else.

And using imagined other Universes to define (or explain) this one seems as useful as describing human consciousness by wondering how some alien race we know nothing about are experiencing it.

[mmsal]

the cosmos self organizes.. sure. but as for people it all starts with your pillars or reality. if one of your pillars of reality says that i dont trust no one! then how will that affect your behavior? negatively right? then what comes from that negativity? more and more negativity right? but it all starts with your pillars of reality. the ideas you choose to run your life. aka YOUR SOUL.

[tehbible]

I used to be atheist until I started researching consciousness. Our consciousness lives on after death. Look up dmt and ayahuasca. God is great. Organized religion can suck my nut.

[MsWolfdeck]

Bunc-Ho!

How about you get some one on who has a clue? My favourite is Nassim Haramein (physics - unified field theory); also Bruce Lipton (biological sciences applied); Rupert Sheldrake (morphic fields); Gregg Braden (psychosocial) etcetera. ... There is a difference between shamanism and new age and this guy is new age, la, la, la, la, la...Shine ON* Katie

[Jtronique]

Mr Sams is indeed a unique, entertaining and insightful individual, but something in the way he speaks, I am reminded of the equally awesome Carl Sagan.

[4468266452247]

either way we can't make facts, if everything starts from a thought, creates an idea and produces a fact, then how can facts exist if thoughts always change? i wish they would teach stuff like this in school so i would at least leave with a little bit of understanding of what everything around me is and why is it around me, sounds childish but seriously have you noticed that the more questions you ask, the dumber people think you are? haha

[4468266452247]

you know how we look into other universes and look for other earth like planets and we see that they have our sun like stars who aren't completely like our sun and our earth size planets that aren't habitable? maybe they haven't grown yet, maybe their sun can't produce enough life to produce other life, because it's not as strong, and therefore needs to grow and therefore is conscious, like our earth is growing or maybe it's fully grown now and that's why we can live on it!

[whitenightf3]

"The idea of a universal mind or Logos would be, I think, a fairly plausible inference

from the present state of scientific theory."

Sir Arthur Eddington

"The exquisite order displayed by our scientific understanding of the physical world

calls for the divine."

Vera Kistiakowsky (MIT physicist):

The laws [of physics] ... seem to be the product of exceedingly ingenious design... The

universe must have a purpose".

Paul Davies: " Astrophysicist

[whitenightf3]

"For the scientist who has lived by his faith in the power of reason, the story ends like

a bad dream. He has scaled the mountains of ignorance; he is about to conquer the

highest peak; as he pulls himself over the final rock, he is greeted by a band of

theologians who have been sitting there for centuries."

Robert Jastrow Astro physicist

[ImagoUltima]

Bridge builders are the ones that help to Self organize chaos...like Gregory...and Graham :)

[WillBradleyRomine]

I agree strongly that consciousness permeates the Universe. Cosmologists almost always have missed the fact that entropic structures created by conscious beings could account for the invisible energy and mass (since their luminosity which is the medium of our perception is not within the range of our instrumentation).postulated by theoreticians to explain galactic coherence. Thanks for the discussion,... Kinick Ahau ("King Sun") has been appreciated in Mayaland for milennia,... viva Solar Power.

[WillBradleyRomine]

Cosmology could have started with the assumption of a conscious universe rather than an unconscious one of dead dumb things just as easily. Then if there were those so inclined, they could theorize the universe's lack of "consciousness". Its easy to see that those who assume a lack of consciousness do themselves in fact lack sensitivity to the real nature of consciousness. In my experiences in alternative viewpoints, the obviousness of objective consciousness seems unquestionable experientially.

[gregasola]

Thanks Jefferdaughter for pointing out another angle on the multiverse. I just see theorizing over other universes as less relevant than understanding the true nature of this one. And that understanding begins with the recognition of stellar consciousness.

Gregory Sams, the author

[Jefferdaughter]

@gregasola -But what if understanding other universes is key to understanding 'this one'? Dr. Hagelin, among many others, may think so. Maybe the distinction between 'this' and 'other' universes in the Multiverse is artificial. Or limiting. I also wonder if 'stellar conciousness' is like water to a fish -perhaps we don't recognize it because it is the very fabric of all that is. AKA 'the mind of God', 'zero point field', etc. Appreciate the reply. Keep up the good work!

[Jefferdaughter]

Interesting, but Sams should familiarize himself with the work of quantum physicists like Dr. Hagelin, who has come to the understanding of the existence of multiple universes from a completely different angle than the one Sams states. Worth looking into, for those who are interested. (The 'Goldilocks' concept applies to the optimal distance from a star for a planet to give rise to 'life as we know it', not the 'odds against' a universe as observed, as Sams states.)

[whitenightf3]

@Jefferdaughter The Cosmological Anthropic Principle actually shows that the Universe is fine tuned, scientists tell us they see both intelligence and design inherent in the Universe.

Materialism is dying, they know that the Cartesian reductionistic mechanism is wrong its based on the old Newtonian world view, that claimed the Universe is akin to a giant clock. We know that is not the case, but they have tried to reduce humanity to machine like robots. Consciousness does not come from the brain!

[Jefferdaughter]

@whitenightf3 - Totally agreed! I've been long aware of the shortcomings of the Western reductionist paradigm & the anthropic prinicple. Iit is good to remain open to other angles from which to consider the observations which gave rise to these both reductionism & CAP. And that even the mind/brain division may be as much an illusion as is making a distinction between matter & energy. Useful for practical & conversational purposes, but not real. Thanks for your comment! Enjoying all here!

[Jefferdaughter]

@whitenightf3 - Obviously, not all 'scientests' either see intellegence or design in the Universe. Some still just see accidents. I have the deepest respect for those who practice true science- the search for objective truth- with an open mind, and little for the work of those with closed minds, regardless of how many letters they have behind their names. But like the Cartesians & Newtonians, they can only see what they believe, and they can only see/believe so far...

[kristypiazza1]

Yes.. the Sun does communicate with us. When I recently woke up the Sun was the first to activate my body with light energy. It actually has a language of symbols it gives us in meditation. The colors it shows off to me are fun. It feels me with lots of love. Enjoy everyday and appreciate the Sun.

[kicomm]

I just watched this after the Prof Brian Cox BBC lecture on quantum physics. Cox is a key public scientists and I get the impression he would regard Greg's position as 'woowoo' which is the standard dismissal that mechanistic scientists offer to anything that suggests that consciousness may exist outside of the chemical interactions going on in our brains. Buddhists have no problems accepting that there can be different level of consciousness in many different things, rocks, animals etc..

[whitenightf3]

@kicomm Scientists like Sheldrake are showing us that the doctien that consciousness emanates from the brain is just a unporoven assumption that materialist hold to a dogma.

You have people born without brains who survive and function just look up the work of Dr John Lorber.

Everything is conscious and life is perpetual in that it keeps recurring, check out Anthony Peake who puts a strong case forward for Eternal Recurrence.

[kicomm]

@whitenightf3 Thanks, will check out A.Peake. I also look forward to Sheldrake's new book 'The Science Delusion', which will no doubt take the arguments to the materialists. I've also heard about hydro-cephalus before. Think there was a book called 'Megabrain' which talked about it, but yeah, mind blowing stuff.

[whitenightf3]

@kicomm Hi the idea that consciousness comes through the brain came from William James. This model of the brain accounts for all phenomena that materialist denies exist dubbed under the umbrella term psi. Other evidence comes from transplant surgery where people receiving the organ begin to tap into the memories of the donor. So something more than just tissue is being moved from one body to another.

[battlebauble]

Saddly, this type of intellectual show wouldn't fly on American TV now days. Damn shame. Thanks, Graham!

[Dlyndsay]

Thank you for your wonderful Graham :)

[AppanParsu]

Science and Religion go hand in hand, one helps explain the other. I like Mr Sams theories, not sure of the 'star' of a movie, made me laugh though. I'll be keeping an eye out for his book.

[mikrobluess]

Thanks alot

[pax256]

Hmm, not sure I agree with everything here. I think intelligence is the result of that self organizing principle and we get governments and rules out of it that can make our lives better and more efficient. I do strongly agree consciousness cant be dismissed and is likely the basis for reality and the most important fact of that is consciousness's ability to observe itself on a continuous and ubiquitous basis not related to any need for feeding it information from the senses or the brain.

[weesoul]

Typical vanity of man to think that the universe revolves around us lol

go with nature and what your heart tells you. Thanx for sharing this vid :)

[MrSchpankme]

Very Insightful. Man needs to admit that almost everything they've been taught is a lie. Who are these born liars called humans?

[TravisAaronSanders]

Thank you for this post, Mr. Hancock.  You are such an inspiration and a blessing for all of us, my eyes are wide open and waiting for the next post. :)

[siebzigfinger]

respect nature and all there is !! nothing to do with religion..feel nature :)