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  • Funny, but it's easy to be on the Hokie bandwagon when they're doing well. I remember in the 80s and 90s when you couldn't find 35k at Hokie games.

  • Scott stadium is horrible compared to Lane. Not even on the same level

  • you guys dont know what the fuck your talking about...uva is the #2 public school in america look it up...and second we have a better all around achool...all you have is agriculture and football and were getting better at football

  • @MxstangHD lolol same bullshit about uva academics........ ahahah this makes me sick

  • @gjm8eh we're talking about the 21st century. not 20 years ago. Would you like me to go over the scores from 2004-2011?

  • been to scott stadium for VT-UVA game to see my Hokies about a month ago. Stadium was loud through out the whole game because there were so many tech fans

  • UVA ALWAYS SUCKS DICK 

  • @slimshadyfever #basketball

  • AHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH­AHAHHAHAHAHAHAAHAHA

  • I like how u tone out the UVA crowd. U panzy tech fuck.

  • stop talkin about vt's dumbass academics. UVA has produced many great players:Chris Long 2nd pick in 2008 NFL draft,Heath Miller one of the top tight ends in the NFL, Matt Schaub, the list goes on. VT has a great football program i admit, but UVA has been great before too

  • fuck vt

  • Love how UVA fans resort to academic talk...............during a football conversation. lol.

  • Entersandman much more better than a horse and zoro wanna be coming out and oh by the way the horse shit in the rd on the way to game wonder why knew what was coming

    

  • So... how about that 38-0 win today? Weren't you guys playing your own stadium today? Oh, and weren't you playing for a spot in the ACC championship? you HOOS are fucking soft and you know it. Go cry like your big baby bitch of a coach Mike London

  • Hoos are classy as $H1T!

  • that would be false tech graduates make more money than uva graduates look it up retard.....also tech has two number one draft picks.

  • @gjm8eh the only people that know that are UVa fans. no one else cares. and when's the last time u all beat a top 5 team? and when's the last time u all beat us. it's amazing how uva fans try to argue even though they haven't beaten tech since 2003.

  • @NoahDyeGoHokies Firstly, it's clear reading comprehension isn't one of your strengths. I never denied the fact that VT is better at football than UVA. I'm just pointing out we have you in every other sport. Period. End of story. Also, we beat FSU in the 90's when they were the #1 team in the country. So that win alone ties VT's all time record against top 5 teams. I find it humorous...UVA wins a couple football games and makes the top 25, and the Hokies world begins to crumble beneath them.

  • Tech has the better team. Nobody's going to deny that. But Hokie fans, let's get something straight. VT football is not a national powerhouse. Instead of making general claims, back up statements with evidence. Tech is 1-26 all time against top 5 teams. That's correct, a 3.7% win%

    Other "pussy" sports

    Basketball - UVA 2 Final Fours, VT 0

    Baseball - UVA >> VT

    Soccer - 6 nat'l ships, VT 0

    Lacrosse - 6 nat'l ships, VT 0

    Boxing - 2 nat'l ships, VT 0

    Other: UVA 6, VT 0

    Total Count: UVA 20, VT 0

  • @gjm8eh which sport makes the most money?

  • loudness refers to the structure of the stadium. you cant fit 100 thousand people in that stadium now can you. have fun being overrrated and only 98% of america knowing it. so im going to have fun watching my HORNS and good luck with your "national championship season" like youve been talking about the past 10 years.

  • @smooshmagoosh horns? what about that 5-7 season they had last year? Wow, they're great. also considering Virginia Tech has the longest away win streak and longest streak of 10- win seasons in the country, I'd say we're pretty consistent.

  • @KrazeekatVideos bla bla va tech is so good with their 7 conference championships and 1 number one draft pick. that def holds a candle next to 32 conf champ. and 4 national titles and being a powerhouse since 1939. every team has a bad season, the chokies should know that losing to jmu and getting squished playing stanford. the only team you beat out of con last year was ecu.

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  • this is the gayest thing I have ever seen, oh and when vt grads get out of college, have fun working for a UVA grad.

  • @rmms6 yeah, i'll have, but when i graduate with enge degree and a phd in that, you can enjoy working for me cause in my major's book, we're lightyears ahead of you guys

  • @rmms6 you are soooo dumb!! VT grads make more! Also, I'd like to see your engineering program get anywhere close to ours. All of your undergraduate crap is the same or worse than ours except law and business.

  • wow kinda hard to compare the two when you change uva's, shows how much better uva is

  • VT= trashy rednecks who get thugs from hampton to play for them

  • @willclem81 "thugs" that get 3.4 and up GPAs and kick the shit out of prep school recruits from UVgAy

  • @willclem81

    That's funny because UVA is doing the same thing to try and win......keyword of the sentence try.

  • Saying that this video is biased is an understatement lol

  • A. This thread is stupid. Settle down everyone, its just a little video.

    B. The video footage in Lane is also stupid. We got killed that night.

  • Also to finish off my list of comments on here cause I'm about to head out and not wast my morning or day talking on youtube videos. It would be nice to see a video that was an ACTUAL comparison and no disrespect uva but, there are no espn videos or anything of good quality to compare it to..

  • Hokie=Douchbag!! 

  • @rals75 That insult means so much when you can't even spell it.

  • @rals75 Cavs=Fuckin wine drinkin three cheese eating soft as hell weinies

  • @bburgicecold How many national championships does VT have? NONE!! They suck at every other sport. But i guess it doesn't matter as long as the football team is good. All that counts is football right? The other sports are meaningless. The tide is changing on the football field. Keeping talking ignorance and using profanity. How old are you? By the way great baseball and basketball tam this year?

  • @rals75 Glad you liked the video!

  • @rals75 Hey bitch, Virginia Tech will always be better than UVA so shove a dick in ur ass. And btw ill use however much profanity i want to.

  • you should have played "Pocket full of sunshine" for UVA

  • I don't even look at UVA as a rivalry anymore, we continually stomp there ass into the ground. GT, UM, FSU are bigger rivalries to me.

  • @GHOSTntheMACHINE agreed 100%

  • Tech's claims to fame: student murders, a dog killing quarterback, and a loud stadium. You guys are such a vital part of society. Real quality stuff.

  • @zombiekiller Medal of Honor recipient, multiple bronze star recipients, largest stand public university Corps of Cadets, nothing worth anything though you're right.

  • @zombiekiller You know you have no class when you joke about an extremely sensitive subject. Little does your UVA mind remember about Yeardley Love. What about her? A UVA lacrosse player continually beaten by her boyfriend and told the police he didn't mean to? Both the boys and girls UVA lax teams knew about him abusing her but didn't do anything. Next time have something better insulting to say about the Hokies. I mean we've only had 7 straight 10 win seasons and 18 straight bowl appearances.

  • @zombiekiller Also man bringing up a major tragedy that affected so many people's lives across the world just so you can try to have a comeback about this video....real classy.

    I try to be respectful with fans of any school and have discussions about our programs and rag on each other some and joke around. Then uva fans pull stuff out like that and you ask why we are not going to be respectful to you??? It's a little ridiculous.

    good job man, stay classy zombie

  • always funny to see the VT inferiority complex come into play. you FINALLY, after all these years, got a decent football team....and it's the only decent thing about your university, so you milk it and milk it and milk it for all it's worth. have you ever noticed that EVERYBODY, not just Cavaliers, hate Virginia Tech? it's because you're the most obnoxious group of arrogant rednecks that ever lived. and you explode with rage when people point that out. it would be funny if it wasn't so old.

  • @zombiekiller You obviously don't know shit about college football OR rednecks. Ever been to a UGA game? You'd get your stupid little ass stomped out just for wearing anything that wasn't UGA, Go to an LSU night game, watch what happens. GO TO BAMA, talk about rednecks period and you'll get your ass stomped.

  • @zombiekiller ha rednecks? come to hampton virginia

  • @zombiekiller Actually Zombie. When we went to Nebraska and they came to VT. We were constantly complimented on how nice all of our fans were and how respectful. It was the same story when Ohio came down and for multiple other schools when they came down and said how respectful and friendly we are. The only schools that get a little more disrespect and dislike us are, of course uva, unc, duke, md, and miami, Why do those schools get more disrespect?....because they constantly show no respect.

  • @zombiekiller yeah and youre a cocksucker. be original. and youre a uva fan? damn i am soooooooo sorry

  • I hope UVA can come see us in Charlotte and Miami. Like I really wanna know how UVA fans still run their mouth? I don't see what they have to back it up. Oh yeah @bwood the real questions are how did the William and Mary game feel and how does it feel getting your ass handed to 37-7 by a team that lost to jmu?

  • I don't care about any argument a UVA fan tries to pull together about Scott Stadium being anything like Lane Stadium. It's UVA...they have nothing on a Hokie crowd. I don't recall Scott Stadium ever being in a top 10 list for loud places whereas Lane is in ALL of them. 

  • Oh and yah...that WAS another hokie Choke job. When Miami came up in November, and whipped your ass. Classic Chokies.

  • @bwood21390 wow what's with all the haters?

  • Wow, way to go TyyyyyRoddddddd. Whiping the American flag like it's your bath towel you ignorant fuck.

    I guess that's what happens when none of your thug players ever go to class and learn about the principles that makes America great. Or how to spell.

    Lame ass video. Come to Scott for a night game. It's rocking. I've been to games at Lane and Scott, and though Tech fans are typically drunker and more racist, UVA gets loud. Keep it up though Chokies.

    And by the way - Good job w/ JMU!

  • @bwood21390 holy shiit are joking with "Come to Scott for a night game. It's rocking" first off you obviously haven't been to lane stadium and scotts stadium has no design to it at all just a 3/4 circle and the fans arent very supportive i went to a game last year and the crowd was totally dead like to the point its not even comparable to blacksburg

  • @friedpeanutbutter I HAVE been to Lane. 2004 UVa vs. Tech game, it was a big game. The place was jumping, but no more than Scott for a big night game.

    If you came to Scott Stadium last year...the team went 3-9 last year. Of course it was totally dead you schmuck. Do you understand everyone hated Al Groh and wanted him out. No one went to games last year, dumbass. When UVa has decent teams, and it's a big game, Scott is as loud as Lane. I've been to both for big games.

  • @bwood21390 i couldn't disagree more with Scott being as loud as lane stadium and you know that's not true

  • @friedpeanutbutter On the average, Tech fans are louder the whole game, sure. Some UVA fans bug the hell out of me...they'd rather be gardening than be at the game...but when the stadium's at its loudest for a big game, Scott is raucus. I'm just telling you man. Mike London has UVA on the rise...wait till they get back in the top 25 and go there when Miami's in town or FSU or something like that...place will be jumping. I promise you.

  • @bwood21390 thats false. i have too lane rapes scott in the mouth. just stop talking

  • @friedpeanutbutter As for Lane being beautiful and Scott having no design...oh my goodness. Lane is four sets of tall bleachers in a cow pasture that they just added a rock facade to like 4 years ago. Scott is nestled in the middle of the campus, has a view of Monticello mountain, you've got the Hill for students and the pergolas around there like ther rest of the Jeffersonian architecture on campus. It's gorgeous and unique. The last thing you can rag on are the aesthetics of Scott Stadium.

  • @bwood21390 I take it you've never been to a night game at Lane Stadium. You should've been there for the Georgia Tech/Virginia Tech game this season. The place was absolutely deafening when David Wilson returned the kickoff for the winning touchdown. Or when they played Enter Sandman for a second time, sending the crowd into a total frenzy?

    As for JMU, that was one bad game. Look what has happened since then. We won every game and the ACC championship. A lot more than UVA can say.

  • @bwood21390 Just fyi man, that is Marcus Vick in this video whipping the flag because yes, he was a thug and he should have only played WR at VT. I always wanted Bryan Randall as our QB and let him get the full time rather than wasting it by sharing it with Marcus. Just because Marcus had the Vick name everyone freaked out but, I hated him in the QB spot from the get go. As for Scott being as loud....dude we rank in the top 5 for toughest stadiums. 2003 Miami and 2007 Clemson. Those were loud!

  • UVA has a weak ass entrance anyway

  • lane stadium didn't seem to help much vs. james madison... haha joke

  • Super. A really long video from the night we got our asses handed to us by the Canes.

  • Go Hokies

  • does uva have a football team I thought they moved to the sewers of London or is that what it is going to be

  • Nice Video! Lane Stadium is bigger, not the beauty or class as Scott Stadium. It is a fact that many VT students could not get in UVA, but VT has kicked UVA's butt in football. VT is not a top 10 academic school or top 10 in the Director's Cup as UVA, but VT has a decent basketball team. Which is the prettiest color, blue and orange or blood and orange? Lane is a neat stadium, but please don't compare the Casssssselll to the John Paul Jones Arena.

  • @uvacheer wow all that and VT grads get paid more on average

  • Thanks for only making us watch 30 seconds of UVA Football.

  • Frank and Pud give circle jerks during halftime at Lame Stadium (not a typo).

  • lmao

  • this is not at all how uva's entrance is. you are just too embarrassed to put up the actual entrance. go hoos

  • @singletaryss44but still the tech entrance would dominate

  • Ahhhh. This says it all!!! Great Video. Go Hokies!!

  • im sure they just play opera when uva comes out of the tunnel

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  • LOLOLOLOLOLOL......that was a good laugh.

    Nice game against BC.

  • R U SERIOUS!!!

  • hahahahahaha

    nooo

    best place for a football game in america

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  • Do you sit around making up things just for the sake of doing it.

  • With all due respect,do you get wasted before you post.

  • you have clearly never experienced enter sandman at lane stadium

  • ha this is funny but when i went to uva their entrance was actually beast

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  • haha i'm not much of a fan of either team... but this was fucking hilarious

  • how many national championships does Virginia Tech have?

  • is that seriously the only comeback uva fans have? congratulations, you have championships in water polo and horseback riding, why don't u go suck down a martini while reciting an entire shakespearean play, and then complain about how bad uva sucks at real sports..do the acc a favor and move to fcs..you might actually have a chance of winning some games

  • Actually, we're lacking championships in those sports, but believe me we're working on it.

    Ass. Way to belittle hundreds of your fellow student athletes.

  • @moonxsuk wo wo wo wo! Martinis? Come on man that's a little too much for them. They just sip down Zimas....

  • LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL....try harder and enjoy your ass whooping in our home away from home, Scott Stadium.

  • whoa dude u have national championships in mens soccer, men and womens lacrosse, and womens cross country. sports that no one gives a shit about, nor are they sports that have a future

  • Soccer and lacrosse are the country's most up and coming sports, just a fun fact. If anything is at the peak of it's popularity, it's football

  • it is the most frightening place to play in college football.

  • does the VT marching band play "Dueling Banjos" when they take the field?

  • its Enter Sandman by Metalica

  • Thanks for posting this, I had forgotten that UVA has a football team.

  • Well, they found out 2 weeks ago, bitch.

  • @mach3moe I had forgotten Tech had a school

  • @wahoowa7777 Ya that's why were ranked higher in engineering and architecture than UVgAy and were a bigger school

  • im sure miami thought it was a very tough place to play in that game.......

  • yeah thats right. UVA plays opera music. thats exactly what happens you stupid fuck

  • LOL hilarious

  • I'd have to concede tht odds of beatng VT this year r slim.All hinges on QB play in the new offense,so don't count us out. But I won't be holding my breath.Aout the "VT FB players are dumb" comments. I think VT students hear that & get defnsv because they (mistakenly) feel that we're saying VT STDNTS are dumb-which you aren't! But make no mistake,your PLAYERS are dumber than ours. Just look at the number of them taking COMPLETELY BOGUS majors--its ridic and, sorry to say, supported by stats

  • shut the fuck up rich boy

  • you can blame me for being rich, but i earned it by studying, bitch. and by not majoring in Apparel Management like most of VT football players!!!!!!!!

  • and our players take weak majors cuz there to busy PLAYING FOOTBALL and not counting up their trust fund

  • couldn't have said it better myself!!!!!!

  • Oh I forgot. Wahoo's or Cav's or whatever you call yourself these days, I have a request. Can you please leave at the end of the third quarter again so that all the Tech fans can boo and tease you as you leave? That was hilarious two years ago.

  • The suggestion that UVa has any chance of winning is laughable. Even if the teams were somewhat close in skill/coaching you can throw home field advantage out the window. You know it's more discouraging than motivating when you look into your own stadium and see as much maroon as you do suit and ties haha.

  • VT is gunna crush UVa in November. Its gunna be nothing new. UVa sucks...obviously.

  • Does Tech have a national championship in any sport? Nope and never will.

  • no one gives a flying fuck about track and field or swimming championships..i play lacrosse and your beloved cavaliers got jimmywhipped by cornell..a freaking ivy league school..and if ur gonna argue about ur IQ shit than tell that to the big red..GO TECH

  • Enjoy your pathetic football team.

    LOL - WILLIAM AND MARY

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  • Do you even have any idea what you are talking about??

  • WahooFan5, I speak on the behalf all other UVa fans when I say that you should probably stop posting comments. You're making a complete ass of yourself....truly.

  • LOL! no FBS team should ever loose to an FCS team. And besides, Tech played #2 Alabama first day and lost because Alabama is actually an awesome team. They would never even consider Uva as an opponent

  • haha that is funny, is that why UVa played usc that was number 3 at the time because no team would think of playing them? WOW

  • USC blew this year and UVA got fucking rocked by them.

  • @sleepfortheteam The same USC that had Marc Sanchez? And went to the Rose Bowl? You dipshit

  • WOW

    you got absolutely ravaged by USC after they payed you to come play you to add a guaranteed win to their schedule. You did the same thing for WIlliam & Mary, paying them to play you, except you were so bad that they actually beat you

  • @ElPrestono Hahaha. How's it feel now, JMU bitches?

  • @bwood21390 well i mean considering were going to the acc championship feels pretty good thanks for asking

  • dont worry tech fans, uva cant accept the fact they suck in football, who cares about what your IQ's are on a football field, you arrogant pricks. every argument you guys bring up can instantly be denied, al groh looks like a rat, along with his joke coacing staff, i pity you ledzep2go, you probably know alot about football if you honestly think virgina tech cant handle a spread offense, who is this guy? thats the easiest offense for tech to stop dumbass

  • UVA fans, you know to get into tech its like a 3.8 right. stop bringing that into valid arguments. get off your knees, yall are a joke to the ACC, you have nothing on Beamer, or Virgina Tech , accept you suck.

  • And I wouldn't be surprised if the GPA standard rises, since they told me at orientation that this year's freshman class GPA, coming into Tech, was 3.95ish.

    Nevertheless, it's ignorant if not pointless to bring academics into the VT/UVA rivalry. After all, how exactly can you accurately compare the programs of a technical school vs. a liberal arts school?

  • UVA fans can't say anything because Va Tech pretty much own you in football, you cavs are just Duke #2 in football i dont even know why your school has a football team

  • Nice video montage. I'd say the UVa entrance is fairly accurate, except I've been to a ton of games and don't recall there having been classical music playing. Might wanna check yer facts. . K have fun down in Redneck Country, see you up in Cville for the Arse Whooping in November. Have fun trying to contain the spread offense.

  • LOL...hahaha are you a comedian??

  • Nope, just optimistic like any good fan at this time of year. Plus we're due for a win, and I'd say it's our best shot in awhile..... if only we could lower the academic standards a bit, dammit!!

  • Haha..I guess you are due for one...but don't act like your academic standards are that great for your football team...you guys recruit fairly well but just...suck

  • "see you up in Cville for the Arse Whooping in November. Have fun trying to contain the spread offense." Are you basing this off the past, or what? I mean I guess we should be worried. Let's see, I'm gonna rank the games Virginia Tech has that I'm worried about (#1 being the most worried) 1. Alabama 2. Georgia Tech 3. Nebraska 4. North Carolina 5. Miami 6. Boston College 7. NC State 8. East Carolina 9. Maryland 10. Duke 11. UVA 12. Marshall Congrats, Blacksburg is terrified.
  • I like how you people Alabama #1...For me Virgina Tech or LSU should be our toughest....Good Luck with the season.

    ROLL TIDE!

  • yeah tech sucks they've never won a national championship in any sports EVER. Uva has won three in one year before. So overall we got better sports, and smarter kids. yeah yall have more fans but the IQ probably about 2:1. as for that sign that says Vick's Burg are not both in jail?... dont try and talk about academics cuz we are the second best public school in the nation... hmm thats funny tech's not on that list.

  • uh, tech is on that list..... dumbass.

  • Wahoofan123---you're probably one of those obnoxious guy who brings up his SAT score in casual conversation. Congratulations on your IQ. And on UVa's public school ranking. You must be really smart if you're bragging about your intelligence on a YouTube video. And as for the other sports---a) who cares? and b) you probably don't follow those other sports. You just act like it to cultivate your "cultured" UVa image. I'm onto your shit Wahoofan123. Have fun staying at home this bowl season.

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  • to answer what we drink at uva at tailgates: beer, lots of tequila, occasionally rum, vodka, brandy, whisky. I have yet to see wine at a tailgate in the past 6 years I've been going to games. for food: grilled chicken, hamburgers, chips, beer battered bratwurst, and hotdogs. sorry tech, that diss of brie cheese and wine at UVa tailgates doesn't work anymore. Sorry to disappoint you.

  • you're still pussies

  • owned

  • UVA likes to make fun of Tech because our mascot is a Turkey, but aren't you nicknamed after a bunch of fucking fish?

  • If you are going to make fun of the term Wahoo at least know what it originates from. It has nothing to do with the fish, it comes from a chant ( Wahoowa ....... )

  • Wrong pinhead, the term "wahoo" was given to UVA fans after a reporter saw the students drinking like crazy. But what were they really downing? Zima? Wines? Crack open a beer or buy a keg fags

  • You clearly have no clue what you are talking about. That is probably some myth created by Tech fans so that they could bash UVA. Seriously, what do you think is more likely? Your fabricated story, or the obvious fact that the term "Wahoo" comes from a chant we say at the end of each fight song. Common sense dipshit.

  • shut up who cares about academic we all know VT is better than UVA all around

  • At what?

  • eyyy uva boy, tech's academic environment is atrocious? VT has surpassed UVA in many academic colleges and as for our sports teams being terrible....i dont know where you got that information but VT is better at many, many sports than UVA is, football, basketball, soccer, wrestling...the list goes on

    your prolly just another wHOO fan caught up in the uva identity crisis cuz now Virginia Tech is THE university of Virginia

  • You could pick and choose a few areas that VA Tech has better academics, say agriculture. Still, if we talk about graduate schools like Darden or UVA Law, it isn't close.

  • pick and choose huh?

    You're entire science program is shit compared to Virginia Tech's

  • This whole thing is stupid. But what do you expect from a school who has one stronghold, one thing they can brag about, one fucking glimpse of hope for the future. Va Tech has an atrocious academic environment-not to mention they suck in almost all other sports. THE University of Virginia is one of the most well-rounded universities in America, and i'm pretty sure they've been ranked the TOP state university quite a few times. So go ahead Tech, celebrate you're decent football team.

  • Hey Einstein, I think you meant "celebrate YOUR decent football team". People who live in grammatically incorrect houses shouldn't throw around literary criticism... or something.

  • THAT is the best entrance in college football...nothing like a night game in Blacksburg.

  • Tech's football team entrance doesn't make up for the ridiculous school system. Read a book retards. And get some better security.

  • What bitch of a mother compelled you to be such a dick?

  • Just putting tech in their place.

  • that's the most stuck up snob answer I have ever heard, and you didn't even answer my question... WHAT BITCH OF A MOTHER COMPELLED YOU TO BE SUCH A DICK?

  • The same one that compelled me to stand up for a good school when little fucks like you try to make fun of them because your fucking football team is better. Get a life.

  • buckeysrbeast5, you're a no-nothing prick. Cincinnatti has been to 10 bowl games. Brian Kelly is building that program. I'm a Tech fan by the way. Also, how'd you enjoy seeing the Buckeyes get their ass beat by Texas? How long has it been since you've won a bowl game now?

  • alright you must be a hokie dont get all excited cause you won the orange bowl because you played cincanati who has like never been in a bowl game

  • since when has ohio state actially won something?

  • if im not mistaken cincanti was favored in that game to win so why dont u get ur facts right.

  • and by "you" i mean buckeysrbeast5

  • the vt tunell is the smallest tunell in the ncaa div 1 it shows there the closet team in the country hopefully in 3 years i will be in that tunnell :)

  • This is just funny... pure and simple! No need for this arguing back and forth!

    Very well done! Very simple but funny! (and slightly true haha)

  • a wahoo is indeed a fish that drinks twice it's weight. Washington and Lee startedd calling us that around the 1915's and uva students took pride in their drinking abilities, so the name stuck. it has nothing to do with the cavalier. just the fact that we drink a lot.

  • Oh please, what do you faggots drink? Zima? Fruit Cocktails? Flavored Waters?

  • ... of semen