Ron, m'lad... you don't have the slightest idea what a collapsing building looks like.... so we don't expect you to have any better idea of the unmistakable signature-tune of what Controlled Demolition looks like either.
On second thoughts: a person so accustomed to fronting a 9/11 camera as you undoubtedly are, MUST know that WTC7 is the falling fingerprint of Controlled Demolition.
You think you can't afford to admit the fact.
Assuming your backers who pay your wages, I guess you're right.
I've been in the area several times since the incident. People dont like to talk to much about these events, especially after the Federal/Media version came out trying to imply that a Boeing jetliner crashed there. The Feds have had a reputation in the past that leads one to believe, if you talk, you could have an accident late one night,, with no witnesses.
Everyone at the Pentagon walked around with nothing to collect, No engines with the exception of a Global Hawk sized engine, about 2 ft x 5 ft. A Boeing 767 eng. is 12 feet by 9 feet. Big difference. No bodies were found, no suitcases, NO tail section, where did the Tail section go off to?? 2 engines gone, bodies gone, No black boxes, NO shipping containers, or sealed food containers found NONE whatsoever. Keep making the bogus vids I will be glad to critique them with my red pen.
Alex Jones is a raving lunatic. No respect for evidence. How can anyone take seriously a man who presents a poorly corroborated story about a countdown as "fact"? I do take certain people in the truth mvt seriously. Not him. By no stretch of even the most twisted imagination.
@cchris874 Its obvious that your a hack, an antitruther shillster. Millions of people love Alex Jones, and follow him everyday,all over the world. Its too late to stop the movement. Its in motion, and unstoppable. People all over the world know that 9/11 was an inside job now, and the government knows and fears the outcome, thus the onslaught of patriot act, jackbooted nazis begining to react to this fear. Your a mere punk on the computor, this thing is coming unravelled real quick.
The greatest conspiracy of all is that we were attacked by tourist boxcutter terrorists. Thats the biggest laugh. Were not laughing. The US govt has lost all credibility.
@paskettle Yet another naive conspiracist, Always ignoring everything that hurts their theory. They used boxcutters to slice peoples necks from behind, then had other items like mase and fake bombs to keep passangers at bay. They didn't just stand there with a box cutter threatening people. Too bad you weren't on that plane
@tommyboy31885 Oh, so you were there on the planes and did in fact observe these 5'8" skinny boxcutter terrorists overtaking everyone on the plane with these massive boxcutters? You dont know what the hell your saying. There is no proof that any hijackings had taken place on 9/11, theres no black boxes, no bodies, no engines, no tail sections, no suitcases, no personal effects, no food trays, or food containers, no soda or liquor bottles or storage bins found what so ever at any location.
@paskettle This is the KEY pont, nothing was found to verify that any plane crash had taken place at open farm area at shanksville. This area only had one farm house aprox 1/2 mile away from the alledged crash site, and supposedly the family was at home doing chores outside at that time and observed it.
People in the area, medics first responders, all stated that they found nothing at the crash site. NOTHING> These so called terrorist turned up in Pakistan very much alive and talking.
Not addressed to me, but c'mon. You're telling us the government would create a fake plane wreck - WITH NO WRECKAGE? That would be the oddest government plot I've heard of. Further, FOR WHAT PURPOSE? Truthers like to always say "who benefits?" Clearly, there is no possible benefit for crashing a plane into rural grass AFTER the towers had been hit, AFTER WTC #2 had collapsed, and AFTER the Pentagon was hit.
@cchris874 You look and listen with the decernment skills of a 4 year old child. This is a grown up world your living in. Big Govt's do dirty things, sometimes to thier own people. Stalin, Pol Pot, Khymer Rouge, Fidel Castro, the Dark Ages. Even the US Gov has used wicked methods in dealing with its people. Dr Kings march in Selma Al firehoses on American citizens. The siliencing of JFK assasination witnesses. This same US Govt is capable of all kinds of Mayhem, they proven it time and..
I don't understand what the truth mvt has to gain by posting false claims, since they are easily refuted by a few clicks of a mouse in most cases. There are truthers who are honest: Gregory Urich, for example. I have nothing against truthful truthers. But why promote claims that anyone can look up and refute? This is not a way to advance the truth, whatever it may be in the case of 911. You're the one brainwashed here, as you have so many facts flat out, unambiguously wrong.
"No black boxes" Wrong, the FDR for flight 93 was found and a report is available online. Same for F77
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"No bodies" Wrong. Some bodies were seen in Pentagon by firemen.
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"No engines. . . . " Wrong again, parts of both of F93's engines were indeed found, and there is pictorial evidence of F77s engines. "Persoanl effecets" and indeed the vast majority of the wreckage for F93 was dug up under the crater.
@cchris874 Your full of grade A bull-oney!!. No debris field was found at all in Shanksville, I have been there on the ground, and I did talk with people in the Somerset Co Pa, area and Lambertsville. NO planes, NO engines, NO, bodies, NO, suitacases, NONE. No food containers, NO smell of Jet Fuel. One man had worked in the USAF and new the smell of jet fuel, NONE. No clothing, NO bottles, or soda cans, or purses, wallets, shoes NONE whatsoever. Ive actually been there.
The County Coroner ID'd almost every passenger on the flight. There were two sizable pieces of fuselage of the plane posted on the web. People in nearby Indian Lake saw debris from the plane that fell in their town. Numerous witnesses reported seeing the plane. State trooper claimed he found engine part. Black Box found.
If you want links to all this, just PM me. Or even better, try doing some actual research of your own.
@cchris874 Your a lier, I was in this county of Somerset Pa. There was no debris field found, no black box can be found becuase there was no plane crash. So if you say that someone alledgedly found a black box near Shanksville, its was planted by some jackass. No engines is the killer that nails your feeble arguement. 2 big jet engines 9x12 feet, Hah its a bust, no tail sections, sorry, no plane crash at Shanksterville. NO bodies, its over, the truth movement is winning again bam.
@paskettle What? If I was on the planes smartguy I would be dead. There were calls from the planes thats how we know. All black boxes were found (except in WTC), bodies were identified, you just choose to ignore that evidence. And how could the U.S. government possibly benefit from faking the crash of flight 93?
@tommyboy31885 You dont listen very well. The supposed black boxes were planted like a mannlicher carcano rifle on the 6th floor. The phone calls were faked manipulated hoax. How govt benefits? They got what they wanted, an excuse to start global war especially in the gulf region, were the OIL was hidden. Haliburton, KBR, Dick Chaney,Big Oil, Larry Silvertein =Millions of dollars gained, along with control which is the most important thing. The patriot Act. 9/11=US govt black operation.
@paskettle First there was no evidence, now there is evidence but it was planted. See how you guys think? no matter how factual something is, you will only accept or ignore it if it supports your theory.
And I wasn't asking how government gained from 9/11, I was talking about flight 93.. If their goal was middle east oil, why risk any more by faking another plane crash when 2500 are dead at wtc. No 4th crash coverup, no fake calls needed, and the U.S. would still be at war in middle east
@tommyboy31885 Ya see, your thinking with shrewdness of a limonade stand. You need to think as though you know that your going ahead with your plans to effect war all over the world, and you need a catalyst to get all of the US behind you. A pretext for War, global war, not just a clean up job down in Central Am. They had to make it look like any plane going anywhere was in danger, at any time. I know the facts concerning Flt 93, thats why Im confident on the fact of no debris field, NONE.
"in the 6 years since these conspiracy theories have been swirling around, no one has yet adduced a plausible motive for bringing down building 7. There's simply no way of fitting this into a coherent conspiracy theory" by Ron Wieck.
Riiiiiight, since you can't think of a motive, therefore, the crime did not happen. AMAZINGLY MORONIC LOGIC FROM A MORON. Watch Dimitri Khalezov on my channel provide not only the motive but the detailed explanation of how WTC 1,2 and 7 came down.
@blackjerryboymetal hes a nut job like all truthers, thats why they get kicked out of every where they go and the patriot act thinks they are terrotists.....lol goof balls
3:53 just look at 7 lathering up, dark grey mystery fireless smoke coming from the windward side of the building AND wher have the towers gone? that's the first floor walkway on the left people!
@blackjerryboymetal WTC 7 and the towers came down at virtually free-fall speed, meaning that the lower floors, with all their steel and concrete, provided no resistance to the upper floors; to believe this could happen without explosives is to believe in magic. Dont breed.
@Seigu007 911 wasn't an inside job, santa doesn't exist, and nibiru will not be returning in 2012, looks like the only one who believed in magic is you , SORRY EPIC FAIL!!
@macro202 what, thats it? are you just another post and run troll? What did I tell you about being stupid and repetitive? Stop trying to act intelligent. It just makes you look what you already are,"dumb."
@blackjerryboymetal Are you brain dead idiot? No building in history has ever collapsed due to fire. People like you represent the idiocy of today. Just another dumb american shit.
@blackjerryboymetal On moonshine again? Name a single fire that ever caused a steel-framed high-rise building to collapse like WTC 1, 2 & 7. Oh golly you can't. Want to try the First Interstate Bank Building which was a 62-story skyscraper in LA? The fire lasted for 3 1/2 hours. The building never collapsed. Demolition is the only answer—demolition by your government.
@blackjerryboymetal Of course it did if you watch the film. The demolition explosives pulverized all three buildings almost perfectly so that the fine, powder-like debris fell perpendicular to the ground covering a wide area (powder tends to do that). This is what one expects with demolition, especially when government issue nano thermite is used.
@blackjerryboymetal You haven't proved your bullshit fiction that "tower 1" caused, hours later, WTC7 to fall perfectly into its own footprint the way demolished or "pulled" buildings normally do, without exception. What's the matter son, can't admit your Nazi America country murdered its own citizens, looking for a pretext by which to invade Central Asia and the Middle East? BTW, that URL you sent was a dead link. Hahahaha!
@blackjerryboymetal Stop with the bullshit. There was no major fire as you allege—and buildings don't all into their own footprint when on fire. In fact no high rise building on fire as ever collapsed!
@blackjerryboymetal Total bullshit. I suppose you and your stooge buddies also believe JFK was killed by a lone assassin and we actually landed on the moon! Hahahaha!
Ron Weick avoids explaining why such a well constructed building like WTC-7, for no apparent reason, collapses much like a building being demolished. Perhaps Ron believes an invisible plane hit the building—but perish the thought that WTC-7 was pulled down by preset demolition charges.
Roland Weick is a well known liar. On Hardfire he even claimed that there was 2million kgs of aluminum in the planes involved at WTC - do the math - that's over 2,000 TONS!! The fact that he has made his way onto the airwaves so often only confirms to me he is a government shill who makes false claims without proof.
@Howeird2001 -- were did he say there was 2,000 tons of aluminum came from the planes? give me the link to that. im pretty sure he said it was 200 tons and NOT 2,000 tons.
Critical thinking? BBC being the most hostile to Bush policies? But, of course, if Pomaroo is at all informed, he would know about the David Kelly affair, where David ended up dead and the head of BBC resigned along with the reporter who wrote the article about the fact that there were no WMD's. Needless to mention , the BBC was careful about what it said about Bu$h and his corporate gubmint after that...G:
It has been demonstrated time and time again that Alex Jones is a liar. No one heard a countdown. Kevin McPadden said he heard a pulsing sound from a radio that sounded like a countdown, he then changed his story saying it was a literal countdown. No one is capable of identifying molten steel on sight. Not one recording or seismograph has explosions in correspondence with the collapses. If anyone says "Nuh uh! Nano thermite" they have never actually read the Jones paper. And yes I can prove it.
@Seigu007 no motive, Huh. What about the SEC cases that had to close and be dropped because of the loss of files contained in the building. I mean that was only billions of dollars these people ripped off. People that had ties to key people in the bush administration at that time.
Is this guy wieck on fucking crack? the removal of habeus corpus from the u.s constitution under the bush administration and the patriot act are both against civil liberties. This guy wieck is obviously a neo-con.
A. If you want motive mr.wieck the files of corporate fraud were housed there B. The difference between the pope and building 7 is that we could not physically see the pope, now could we. Wieck is something else, he believes oswald was the lone gunman even though the book depository was behind jfk's car and you can clearly see jfk was also shot from the front because his head goes flying back. This guy wieck can not be taken seriously.
One need not provide an adequate alternative explanation for the collapse of building 7 in order to point out discrepancies and inconsistencies contained within the official explanation. This is an elementary concept and it's quite remarkable that this Coincidence Theorist is incapable of grasping this.
7 came down cause that is wear they were setting off the explosives for the wtc, it also had all the files for enron and world com cases, also it was owned by silverstein. no suprise the goverment never exlplained how building 7 fell
When you can't debate, spew 10 minute long sentences of pure hyperbole and disconnected thoughts on anything to do with conspiracies.
This bloke acts like a 5 year old in debates or in reaction to any critical questions put to him, which is probably which so many conspiracy nuts look up to him.
so the government was powerfull enough to pull off this perfectly executed plan, with the media in on it, yet for some reason they would allow all sorts of videos on mainstream internet sites that revealed their master plans?
These clowns are so desperate to only give Alex enough time for a sound bite before they shut him off and then sit back and talk in a calm and condescending way. The funny thing is that the final NIST report discredits Ron Wieck far more than Alex Jones!
Be afraid. Be very afraid - IF 9/11 was NOT a conspiracy by rogue elements of our own gov't. Because that means that the United States is NOT able to protect its airspace. We have been told that we have a very good defense system. We are led to believe that the millions of dollars taxpayers spend on Homeland Security is enabling our gov't to protect us. 9/11 proved that UNTRUE. We are unable to protect our country from KNOWN terrorists with knives and box cutters. Be very afraid!
What you are saying is that the american security system CAN'T fail. I don't think anyone could say that the USA performed well during that day, but is that evidence for a conspiracy?
Jones was muted because he wouldn't STFU and let someone else talk. It was not HIS show where he can blather all he wants and control the conversation. (Actually he had two segments by himself before Wieck came on.)
I haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaate Fox News. That's the problem with truthers: if I disagree with a truther, I must be a Republican/Neo-Conservative sympathizer. Guess what? YOU'RE WRONG. I HATE THEM AS MUCH AS YOU DO, but for actual reasons, like the war in iraq, the economy, health care crisis, gas crisis, their foreign policy, etc. etc. etc.
This is more than just black and white dumbass. There are tons of shades of grey in between those two.
Who the fuck are you calling "dumbass"? You just blamed Iraq, the economy, the health care crisis, the gas crisis, and American foreign policy on ONE MINOR MEDIA OUTLET. A little bit fucking naive, don't you think? Obviously denying the Truthers (ho! a pun!) doesn't make you a neo-con, but you can still be a part of the problem without being a Bush voter.
If those on the ground knew the cause of the collapse of WTC7 before it collapsed, why -- 7 years later -- is there not a plausible explanation for the cause of the collapse?
The only way it could be known in advance that wtc7 would collapse would be if it was a controlled demolition.
We don't need to "fit" the destruction of WTC7 into a coherent theory; motive is not critical. We know from the visual evidence that WTC7 was a controlled demolition.
Once again, THERE ARE MORE THAN TWO EXPLANATIONS FOR ANY EVENT. Stop thinking, it's just fires that did it, OR the building was blown up. There's shit we don't know about that happened in the building (like any crisis), that just can't be explained.
This guy is an idiot. He never really talked about WHY WTC 7 fell. But the FACT is the FBI and CIA did the 1993 WTC bombings. Listen to their phone call where the FBI agent talks to the terrorist they hired to build the bomb. Wake up, people.
BTW, you dumb American sheep can continue to believe the official lie and watch your country fall like Rome. Your dollar is sinking fast, middle class eliminated, education churning out dumb as rock kids, manufacturing jobs going to China, high tech jobs going to India. You have nothing left but at $9Trillion and growing debt to pay to your creditors. Your kids are going to pick up the tab. The future American is a slave. China and Russia will own your asses.
Mr. Wieck is full of shit. WTC7 is the smoking gun. It was controlled demolition. Buildings do not fall straight down into their foot print at near free fall speed due to sporadic fires and random debris hitting it. The steel was never tested for explosive residue. Why?
Did you see ANY of the North Tower hit Tower 7, or does being a truther make you blur that part out? THE DEBRIS is what caused the structural damage and fires in the building. The firefighters couldn't control the fires (no water pressure for the hoses = damaged during collapses, probably), and they decided to stop the search for others, fearing that the tower would collapse, WELL BEFORE IT DID. NOT BECAUSE OF A CONSPIRACY, but because of planning disaster relief.
Exactly what damage did the debris from the WTC1 cause to WTC7? How many steel columns were severed by the debris from the WTC1? And if the debris didn't severe all of the columns then what simultaneously cut all the steel columns?
Is there really a plausible reason -- not just mere assertion -- to believe that random fires can cause a nice symmetrical collapse? If so, I haven't heard it.
Being a conspiracy liar means never having to confront real evidence. No, felicity, WTC 7 is not a smoking gun. Your evil movement hasn't come close to fitting the collapse into any sort of coherent theory. It was not a controlled demolition as no evidence for the use of explosives has been found--no detonator caps, no bits of wiring, no seismic spikes. No simultaneous explosions were heard (a random blast is characteristic of an office fire, not a demolition).
No evidence of explosives- no caps, no wiring, etc, have been found ... yeah and who exactly were/are they going to be found by? All the curious minded citizens who had free access to the site? I'm sure the conspirators would report all such findings. Oh wait a minute no... You're funny. Now let's fade Alex out. Don't forget to get the moon landing in. Classic.
Evidence that "curious-minded citizens" would not be able to recognize would have been found by the 7,000 FBI agents assigned to the investigation. They would have been found by the Protec investigation (you could--but you won't!--read Brent Blanchard's paper).
You prefer, however, to swell the ranks of your imaginary conspiracy. And after almost seven years, NOBODY leaks anything! You can continue to pretend that EVERYONE is in on it, but the jihadists remain proud of their accomplishment.
IF it was a government conspiracy then OF COURSE they would not find, allow to be found, or publish any findings or any evidence that does not jive with the cover story & that would expose the conspiracy or lend credence to the theory. Using this lack of evidence as evidence that WTC7 did indeed simply fall down on itself is utterly absurd & reveals the dishonest nature w/which you engage debate on this topic. Look out! There's a jihadist right behind you! Oh no, that's just your self-loathing.
7 Wtc did not fall into it's own footprint. It horribily damaged fitterman hall and the barclay vesey building and the steel was never tested because it was mixed up with the twin towers steel since as we all know not many people know of building 7.
during a crown court trial heard in cardiff crown court 1st february 2001 I adduced and jury accepted that bbc journalists had lied with a view to sending me to prison...
if bbc journalists can tell lies under oath,why should we trust that in any event?
Everyone else gets to talk, but Alex Jones is faded out and has to shout out information before he is cut off again. This is not a sharing of ideas. It's putting your own ideas out and cutting off a person when his ideas don't go along with yours.
These buildings collapsed almost straight down. Fire just doesn't do that to steel buildings. You don't have to have a degree or be an expert to see that. Open your eyes.
jones was faded because he wouldn't shut up about his stupid web sites. how many hi-rises were built like wtc 1&2, had 767s crash in to them, had 6 floors instantly on fire ? its a miracle they didn't collapse immediately.
What an ingnorant ass, all "coincidences" are just too conveniently pointing in the same direction, NOrad, WAR GAMES,ON & ON, THIS GUT IS FULL OF SHIT
Once againm the burden of proof is on the conspiracy therists to actually investigate who the hell gave BBC those reports, and stop claiming this one point to be a damn smoking gun, when in fact it means literally nothing to the overall idea you people have of that day.
David Ray Griffin says that having a comprehensive theory only leads to debunkers picking it apart, and suggests that 'doubting by the point' is the only way to cast doubt on the official 9/11 story.
Ron, m'lad... you don't have the slightest idea what a collapsing building looks like.... so we don't expect you to have any better idea of the unmistakable signature-tune of what Controlled Demolition looks like either.
On second thoughts: a person so accustomed to fronting a 9/11 camera as you undoubtedly are, MUST know that WTC7 is the falling fingerprint of Controlled Demolition.
You think you can't afford to admit the fact.
Assuming your backers who pay your wages, I guess you're right.
MrAutobuildit 3 weeks ago
I've been in the area several times since the incident. People dont like to talk to much about these events, especially after the Federal/Media version came out trying to imply that a Boeing jetliner crashed there. The Feds have had a reputation in the past that leads one to believe, if you talk, you could have an accident late one night,, with no witnesses.
paskettle 2 months ago
Everyone at the Pentagon walked around with nothing to collect, No engines with the exception of a Global Hawk sized engine, about 2 ft x 5 ft. A Boeing 767 eng. is 12 feet by 9 feet. Big difference. No bodies were found, no suitcases, NO tail section, where did the Tail section go off to?? 2 engines gone, bodies gone, No black boxes, NO shipping containers, or sealed food containers found NONE whatsoever. Keep making the bogus vids I will be glad to critique them with my red pen.
paskettle 2 months ago
Alex Jones is a raving lunatic. No respect for evidence. How can anyone take seriously a man who presents a poorly corroborated story about a countdown as "fact"? I do take certain people in the truth mvt seriously. Not him. By no stretch of even the most twisted imagination.
cchris874 2 months ago
@cchris874 Its obvious that your a hack, an antitruther shillster. Millions of people love Alex Jones, and follow him everyday,all over the world. Its too late to stop the movement. Its in motion, and unstoppable. People all over the world know that 9/11 was an inside job now, and the government knows and fears the outcome, thus the onslaught of patriot act, jackbooted nazis begining to react to this fear. Your a mere punk on the computor, this thing is coming unravelled real quick.
paskettle 2 months ago
@paskettle
If you are so impressed with Mr. Jones, we can test his specific claims:
1- there was a countdown, which he describes elswhere as "smoking gun proof"
2- the firemen stated there would be a controlled demolition.
Tell where this proof is:
Regarding #1, I'd like something more than witness "Mike" and his claim of "pulse" like unidentified words. That's "proof" in your eyes?
For #2, there is a single fireman who says it's "gonna blow up." Is that it?
cchris874 2 months ago
Alex Jones is a fucking idiot. The only people dumber than Jones are the morons that believe and follow his bullshit
Truthers are fucking idiots. Retarded monkeys are smarter than Truthers.
12weasel100 2 months ago
The greatest conspiracy of all is that we were attacked by tourist boxcutter terrorists. Thats the biggest laugh. Were not laughing. The US govt has lost all credibility.
paskettle 3 months ago
@paskettle Yet another naive conspiracist, Always ignoring everything that hurts their theory. They used boxcutters to slice peoples necks from behind, then had other items like mase and fake bombs to keep passangers at bay. They didn't just stand there with a box cutter threatening people. Too bad you weren't on that plane
tommyboy31885 2 months ago
@tommyboy31885 Oh, so you were there on the planes and did in fact observe these 5'8" skinny boxcutter terrorists overtaking everyone on the plane with these massive boxcutters? You dont know what the hell your saying. There is no proof that any hijackings had taken place on 9/11, theres no black boxes, no bodies, no engines, no tail sections, no suitcases, no personal effects, no food trays, or food containers, no soda or liquor bottles or storage bins found what so ever at any location.
paskettle 2 months ago
@paskettle This is the KEY pont, nothing was found to verify that any plane crash had taken place at open farm area at shanksville. This area only had one farm house aprox 1/2 mile away from the alledged crash site, and supposedly the family was at home doing chores outside at that time and observed it.
People in the area, medics first responders, all stated that they found nothing at the crash site. NOTHING> These so called terrorist turned up in Pakistan very much alive and talking.
paskettle 2 months ago
@paskettle
Not addressed to me, but c'mon. You're telling us the government would create a fake plane wreck - WITH NO WRECKAGE? That would be the oddest government plot I've heard of. Further, FOR WHAT PURPOSE? Truthers like to always say "who benefits?" Clearly, there is no possible benefit for crashing a plane into rural grass AFTER the towers had been hit, AFTER WTC #2 had collapsed, and AFTER the Pentagon was hit.
Where are your critical thinking skills?
cchris874 2 months ago
@cchris874 You look and listen with the decernment skills of a 4 year old child. This is a grown up world your living in. Big Govt's do dirty things, sometimes to thier own people. Stalin, Pol Pot, Khymer Rouge, Fidel Castro, the Dark Ages. Even the US Gov has used wicked methods in dealing with its people. Dr Kings march in Selma Al firehoses on American citizens. The siliencing of JFK assasination witnesses. This same US Govt is capable of all kinds of Mayhem, they proven it time and..
paskettle 2 months ago
@paskettle
I don't understand what the truth mvt has to gain by posting false claims, since they are easily refuted by a few clicks of a mouse in most cases. There are truthers who are honest: Gregory Urich, for example. I have nothing against truthful truthers. But why promote claims that anyone can look up and refute? This is not a way to advance the truth, whatever it may be in the case of 911. You're the one brainwashed here, as you have so many facts flat out, unambiguously wrong.
cchris874 2 months ago
@paskettle
"These so called terrorist turned up in Pakistan very much alive and talking."
huh?
unclesamsnephew666 2 months ago
@paskettle
"No black boxes" Wrong, the FDR for flight 93 was found and a report is available online. Same for F77
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"No bodies" Wrong. Some bodies were seen in Pentagon by firemen.
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"No engines. . . . " Wrong again, parts of both of F93's engines were indeed found, and there is pictorial evidence of F77s engines. "Persoanl effecets" and indeed the vast majority of the wreckage for F93 was dug up under the crater.
Who are you trying to kid?
cchris874 2 months ago
@cchris874 Your full of grade A bull-oney!!. No debris field was found at all in Shanksville, I have been there on the ground, and I did talk with people in the Somerset Co Pa, area and Lambertsville. NO planes, NO engines, NO, bodies, NO, suitacases, NONE. No food containers, NO smell of Jet Fuel. One man had worked in the USAF and new the smell of jet fuel, NONE. No clothing, NO bottles, or soda cans, or purses, wallets, shoes NONE whatsoever. Ive actually been there.
paskettle 2 months ago
@paskettle
"No debris field in Shanksville"
The County Coroner ID'd almost every passenger on the flight. There were two sizable pieces of fuselage of the plane posted on the web. People in nearby Indian Lake saw debris from the plane that fell in their town. Numerous witnesses reported seeing the plane. State trooper claimed he found engine part. Black Box found.
If you want links to all this, just PM me. Or even better, try doing some actual research of your own.
cchris874 2 months ago
@cchris874 Your a lier, I was in this county of Somerset Pa. There was no debris field found, no black box can be found becuase there was no plane crash. So if you say that someone alledgedly found a black box near Shanksville, its was planted by some jackass. No engines is the killer that nails your feeble arguement. 2 big jet engines 9x12 feet, Hah its a bust, no tail sections, sorry, no plane crash at Shanksterville. NO bodies, its over, the truth movement is winning again bam.
paskettle 2 months ago
@paskettle
When were you there?
cchris874 2 months ago
@paskettle What? If I was on the planes smartguy I would be dead. There were calls from the planes thats how we know. All black boxes were found (except in WTC), bodies were identified, you just choose to ignore that evidence. And how could the U.S. government possibly benefit from faking the crash of flight 93?
tommyboy31885 2 months ago
@tommyboy31885 You dont listen very well. The supposed black boxes were planted like a mannlicher carcano rifle on the 6th floor. The phone calls were faked manipulated hoax. How govt benefits? They got what they wanted, an excuse to start global war especially in the gulf region, were the OIL was hidden. Haliburton, KBR, Dick Chaney,Big Oil, Larry Silvertein =Millions of dollars gained, along with control which is the most important thing. The patriot Act. 9/11=US govt black operation.
paskettle 2 months ago
@paskettle First there was no evidence, now there is evidence but it was planted. See how you guys think? no matter how factual something is, you will only accept or ignore it if it supports your theory.
And I wasn't asking how government gained from 9/11, I was talking about flight 93.. If their goal was middle east oil, why risk any more by faking another plane crash when 2500 are dead at wtc. No 4th crash coverup, no fake calls needed, and the U.S. would still be at war in middle east
tommyboy31885 2 months ago
@tommyboy31885 Ya see, your thinking with shrewdness of a limonade stand. You need to think as though you know that your going ahead with your plans to effect war all over the world, and you need a catalyst to get all of the US behind you. A pretext for War, global war, not just a clean up job down in Central Am. They had to make it look like any plane going anywhere was in danger, at any time. I know the facts concerning Flt 93, thats why Im confident on the fact of no debris field, NONE.
paskettle 2 months ago
lol alex, you're an idiot. end of story
cjnewson88 4 months ago
"in the 6 years since these conspiracy theories have been swirling around, no one has yet adduced a plausible motive for bringing down building 7. There's simply no way of fitting this into a coherent conspiracy theory" by Ron Wieck.
Riiiiiight, since you can't think of a motive, therefore, the crime did not happen. AMAZINGLY MORONIC LOGIC FROM A MORON. Watch Dimitri Khalezov on my channel provide not only the motive but the detailed explanation of how WTC 1,2 and 7 came down.
anthonyc31 5 months ago
@blackjerryboymetal hes a nut job like all truthers, thats why they get kicked out of every where they go and the patriot act thinks they are terrotists.....lol goof balls
kushsmokkeralt 8 months ago
3:53 just look at 7 lathering up, dark grey mystery fireless smoke coming from the windward side of the building AND wher have the towers gone? that's the first floor walkway on the left people!
(has Alex sussed out the Wiek truth yet?)
MarkB1ngham 9 months ago
@blackjerryboymetal WTC 7 and the towers came down at virtually free-fall speed, meaning that the lower floors, with all their steel and concrete, provided no resistance to the upper floors; to believe this could happen without explosives is to believe in magic. Dont breed.
Seigu007 9 months ago
@Seigu007 911 wasn't an inside job, santa doesn't exist, and nibiru will not be returning in 2012, looks like the only one who believed in magic is you , SORRY EPIC FAIL!!
kushsmokkeralt 8 months ago
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macro202 3 months ago
@macro202 what, thats it? are you just another post and run troll? What did I tell you about being stupid and repetitive? Stop trying to act intelligent. It just makes you look what you already are,"dumb."
Seigu007 3 months ago
@blackjerryboymetal Are you brain dead idiot? No building in history has ever collapsed due to fire. People like you represent the idiocy of today. Just another dumb american shit.
Seigu007 9 months ago
@blackjerryboymetal On moonshine again? Name a single fire that ever caused a steel-framed high-rise building to collapse like WTC 1, 2 & 7. Oh golly you can't. Want to try the First Interstate Bank Building which was a 62-story skyscraper in LA? The fire lasted for 3 1/2 hours. The building never collapsed. Demolition is the only answer—demolition by your government.
mujaku 10 months ago
@blackjerryboymetal Of course it did if you watch the film. The demolition explosives pulverized all three buildings almost perfectly so that the fine, powder-like debris fell perpendicular to the ground covering a wide area (powder tends to do that). This is what one expects with demolition, especially when government issue nano thermite is used.
mujaku 10 months ago
@blackjerryboymetal You haven't proved your bullshit fiction that "tower 1" caused, hours later, WTC7 to fall perfectly into its own footprint the way demolished or "pulled" buildings normally do, without exception. What's the matter son, can't admit your Nazi America country murdered its own citizens, looking for a pretext by which to invade Central Asia and the Middle East? BTW, that URL you sent was a dead link. Hahahaha!
mujaku 10 months ago
@blackjerryboymetal Stop with the bullshit. There was no major fire as you allege—and buildings don't all into their own footprint when on fire. In fact no high rise building on fire as ever collapsed!
mujaku 10 months ago
@blackjerryboymetal Total bullshit. I suppose you and your stooge buddies also believe JFK was killed by a lone assassin and we actually landed on the moon! Hahahaha!
mujaku 10 months ago
@blackjerryboymetal you have such a feeble mind. People like you represent the idiocy of today.
Seigu007 10 months ago
Controlled demolition experts (including one in America) are now saying that it had to be a controlled demolition.
bcbobbie 11 months ago
Ron Weick avoids explaining why such a well constructed building like WTC-7, for no apparent reason, collapses much like a building being demolished. Perhaps Ron believes an invisible plane hit the building—but perish the thought that WTC-7 was pulled down by preset demolition charges.
mujaku 1 year ago
So, Ronald thinks fires brought down WTC7? Wow. Just goes to show you how stupid this american thinker is.
Seigu007 1 year ago
Roland Weick is a well known liar. On Hardfire he even claimed that there was 2million kgs of aluminum in the planes involved at WTC - do the math - that's over 2,000 TONS!! The fact that he has made his way onto the airwaves so often only confirms to me he is a government shill who makes false claims without proof.
Howeird2001 1 year ago
@Howeird2001 -- were did he say there was 2,000 tons of aluminum came from the planes? give me the link to that. im pretty sure he said it was 200 tons and NOT 2,000 tons.
58ravenfan 1 year ago
@Howeird2001 -- iv watched ALL the "hard fire" shows and I have never heard him say 2,000 tons on aluminum came from the planes.
58ravenfan 1 year ago
I must say that, except for the bullhorn and the wildly waving arms, Alex has a little edge on Ronald in the attractiveness department
wordgeezer 2 years ago
Video begins with pomaroo in silent prayer.
Critical thinking? BBC being the most hostile to Bush policies? But, of course, if Pomaroo is at all informed, he would know about the David Kelly affair, where David ended up dead and the head of BBC resigned along with the reporter who wrote the article about the fact that there were no WMD's. Needless to mention , the BBC was careful about what it said about Bu$h and his corporate gubmint after that...G:
wordgeezer 2 years ago
I guarantee you that Ronald Wieck has done a lot more research than Alex Jones has.
By research, I do not mean interviewing every conspiracy crackpot in the world and using their incoherent ramblings as evidence.
ReverendPl3bian 2 years ago
i guarantee he has not, he doesnt even know the theories hes trying to dispute
InfamousBonics 2 years ago
I find it hard to believe that you've read the NIST report.
ReverendPl3bian 2 years ago
It has been demonstrated time and time again that Alex Jones is a liar. No one heard a countdown. Kevin McPadden said he heard a pulsing sound from a radio that sounded like a countdown, he then changed his story saying it was a literal countdown. No one is capable of identifying molten steel on sight. Not one recording or seismograph has explosions in correspondence with the collapses. If anyone says "Nuh uh! Nano thermite" they have never actually read the Jones paper. And yes I can prove it.
BillBJJ78 2 years ago
ron wieck is a naive little boy.
Seigu007 2 years ago
@Seigu007 no motive, Huh. What about the SEC cases that had to close and be dropped because of the loss of files contained in the building. I mean that was only billions of dollars these people ripped off. People that had ties to key people in the bush administration at that time.
talltatguy 2 years ago
Is this guy wieck on fucking crack? the removal of habeus corpus from the u.s constitution under the bush administration and the patriot act are both against civil liberties. This guy wieck is obviously a neo-con.
doire7 2 years ago
LOL! Habeus Corpus was removed during the Civil War. I guess Lincoln was secretly behind the south seceding.
BillBJJ78 2 years ago
A. If you want motive mr.wieck the files of corporate fraud were housed there B. The difference between the pope and building 7 is that we could not physically see the pope, now could we. Wieck is something else, he believes oswald was the lone gunman even though the book depository was behind jfk's car and you can clearly see jfk was also shot from the front because his head goes flying back. This guy wieck can not be taken seriously.
doire7 2 years ago
One need not provide an adequate alternative explanation for the collapse of building 7 in order to point out discrepancies and inconsistencies contained within the official explanation. This is an elementary concept and it's quite remarkable that this Coincidence Theorist is incapable of grasping this.
paleopeneyes 2 years ago
7 came down cause that is wear they were setting off the explosives for the wtc, it also had all the files for enron and world com cases, also it was owned by silverstein. no suprise the goverment never exlplained how building 7 fell
robaquarian 2 years ago
When you cant debate - fade them out.
thewholesoul 2 years ago
When you can't debate, spew 10 minute long sentences of pure hyperbole and disconnected thoughts on anything to do with conspiracies.
This bloke acts like a 5 year old in debates or in reaction to any critical questions put to him, which is probably which so many conspiracy nuts look up to him.
pigeonshouse 2 years ago
Alex Jones is the biggest nut job in the world. I can't believe he is an actual leader of the conspiracy movement.
AmericasFan 2 years ago
oh my god alex jones is a fucking retard...as are all "truthers"
rjs87 2 years ago
Good video. I enjoyed listening to Alex being faded out! lol
terrymanning1 2 years ago
Alex Jones is a traitor and will be skinned alive by militias when he is dumped by the cia
TsunamlTruth 2 years ago
hey did you like that film i sent you??
TsunamiTruth 2 years ago
so the government was powerfull enough to pull off this perfectly executed plan, with the media in on it, yet for some reason they would allow all sorts of videos on mainstream internet sites that revealed their master plans?
that really doesn't add up
NeckRAS 2 years ago
"A twenty story ghash"
Even NIST admits that's a lie.
These clowns are so desperate to only give Alex enough time for a sound bite before they shut him off and then sit back and talk in a calm and condescending way. The funny thing is that the final NIST report discredits Ron Wieck far more than Alex Jones!
vidmanx0 3 years ago
bacon is a drug addled fool.
twolaneblacktop3000 3 years ago
"Fade alex jones out please."That was hilarious.I wish Youtube would do that.
dsglop 3 years ago
MetaphorInVain
You don't read much, do you?
goocross 3 years ago
Be afraid. Be very afraid - IF 9/11 was NOT a conspiracy by rogue elements of our own gov't. Because that means that the United States is NOT able to protect its airspace. We have been told that we have a very good defense system. We are led to believe that the millions of dollars taxpayers spend on Homeland Security is enabling our gov't to protect us. 9/11 proved that UNTRUE. We are unable to protect our country from KNOWN terrorists with knives and box cutters. Be very afraid!
goocross 3 years ago 2
What you are saying is that the american security system CAN'T fail. I don't think anyone could say that the USA performed well during that day, but is that evidence for a conspiracy?
MetaphorInVain 3 years ago
total biased clip and a retard uploader
yahoochatter 3 years ago 2
there is anouther rearded uploaded who uploads clips bashing alex jones
hes name is jonlukasc
hes a shill for the NWO
TsunamiTruth 2 years ago
fuck this shit, alex keep on fucking up the new world orders agenda!
cerpinTHEmute 3 years ago 5
@cerpinTHEmute I thought the new worlds orders agenda was to take over the WCW? we're those videos faked too? INSIDE JOB!!!
kushsmokkeralt 8 months ago
@kushsmokkeralt god damn, i made that comment 3 years ago...anyway yur a funny guy, its not like thats the oldest joke in the book or anything..
cerpinTHEmute 8 months ago
Jones was muted because he wouldn't STFU and let someone else talk. It was not HIS show where he can blather all he wants and control the conversation. (Actually he had two segments by himself before Wieck came on.)
buddhaglass 3 years ago
I haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaate Fox News. That's the problem with truthers: if I disagree with a truther, I must be a Republican/Neo-Conservative sympathizer. Guess what? YOU'RE WRONG. I HATE THEM AS MUCH AS YOU DO, but for actual reasons, like the war in iraq, the economy, health care crisis, gas crisis, their foreign policy, etc. etc. etc.
This is more than just black and white dumbass. There are tons of shades of grey in between those two.
ytguy12345 3 years ago
Who the fuck are you calling "dumbass"? You just blamed Iraq, the economy, the health care crisis, the gas crisis, and American foreign policy on ONE MINOR MEDIA OUTLET. A little bit fucking naive, don't you think? Obviously denying the Truthers (ho! a pun!) doesn't make you a neo-con, but you can still be a part of the problem without being a Bush voter.
Hostile 3 years ago
If those on the ground knew the cause of the collapse of WTC7 before it collapsed, why -- 7 years later -- is there not a plausible explanation for the cause of the collapse?
The only way it could be known in advance that wtc7 would collapse would be if it was a controlled demolition.
We don't need to "fit" the destruction of WTC7 into a coherent theory; motive is not critical. We know from the visual evidence that WTC7 was a controlled demolition.
Ewilds 3 years ago 3
Once again, THERE ARE MORE THAN TWO EXPLANATIONS FOR ANY EVENT. Stop thinking, it's just fires that did it, OR the building was blown up. There's shit we don't know about that happened in the building (like any crisis), that just can't be explained.
ONCE AGAIN, that doesn't mean it's a CONSPIRACY!
ytguy12345 3 years ago
This guy is an idiot. He never really talked about WHY WTC 7 fell. But the FACT is the FBI and CIA did the 1993 WTC bombings. Listen to their phone call where the FBI agent talks to the terrorist they hired to build the bomb. Wake up, people.
JackNeedles 3 years ago 2
BTW, you dumb American sheep can continue to believe the official lie and watch your country fall like Rome. Your dollar is sinking fast, middle class eliminated, education churning out dumb as rock kids, manufacturing jobs going to China, high tech jobs going to India. You have nothing left but at $9Trillion and growing debt to pay to your creditors. Your kids are going to pick up the tab. The future American is a slave. China and Russia will own your asses.
felicity5150 3 years ago 3
Did doesn't have anything to do directly with 9/11, especially not the stupid topics that truthers bring up.
What's happening now is a result of the dumbass government in America, and no one is denying that the country is in a extremely bad place right now.
Once, this has nothing to do with the actual topic of the video.
ytguy12345 3 years ago
Mr. Wieck is full of shit. WTC7 is the smoking gun. It was controlled demolition. Buildings do not fall straight down into their foot print at near free fall speed due to sporadic fires and random debris hitting it. The steel was never tested for explosive residue. Why?
felicity5150 3 years ago 5
Did you see ANY of the North Tower hit Tower 7, or does being a truther make you blur that part out? THE DEBRIS is what caused the structural damage and fires in the building. The firefighters couldn't control the fires (no water pressure for the hoses = damaged during collapses, probably), and they decided to stop the search for others, fearing that the tower would collapse, WELL BEFORE IT DID. NOT BECAUSE OF A CONSPIRACY, but because of planning disaster relief.
ytguy12345 3 years ago
Exactly what damage did the debris from the WTC1 cause to WTC7? How many steel columns were severed by the debris from the WTC1? And if the debris didn't severe all of the columns then what simultaneously cut all the steel columns?
Is there really a plausible reason -- not just mere assertion -- to believe that random fires can cause a nice symmetrical collapse? If so, I haven't heard it.
Ewilds 3 years ago 2
Being a conspiracy liar means never having to confront real evidence. No, felicity, WTC 7 is not a smoking gun. Your evil movement hasn't come close to fitting the collapse into any sort of coherent theory. It was not a controlled demolition as no evidence for the use of explosives has been found--no detonator caps, no bits of wiring, no seismic spikes. No simultaneous explosions were heard (a random blast is characteristic of an office fire, not a demolition).
RonaldWieck 3 years ago
No evidence of explosives- no caps, no wiring, etc, have been found ... yeah and who exactly were/are they going to be found by? All the curious minded citizens who had free access to the site? I'm sure the conspirators would report all such findings. Oh wait a minute no... You're funny. Now let's fade Alex out. Don't forget to get the moon landing in. Classic.
NormanSweetcream 3 years ago
Evidence that "curious-minded citizens" would not be able to recognize would have been found by the 7,000 FBI agents assigned to the investigation. They would have been found by the Protec investigation (you could--but you won't!--read Brent Blanchard's paper).
You prefer, however, to swell the ranks of your imaginary conspiracy. And after almost seven years, NOBODY leaks anything! You can continue to pretend that EVERYONE is in on it, but the jihadists remain proud of their accomplishment.
RonaldWieck 3 years ago
IF it was a government conspiracy then OF COURSE they would not find, allow to be found, or publish any findings or any evidence that does not jive with the cover story & that would expose the conspiracy or lend credence to the theory. Using this lack of evidence as evidence that WTC7 did indeed simply fall down on itself is utterly absurd & reveals the dishonest nature w/which you engage debate on this topic. Look out! There's a jihadist right behind you! Oh no, that's just your self-loathing.
NormanSweetcream 3 years ago
really?
twolaneblacktop3000 3 years ago
@felicity5150 WTC7 to a retard = smoking gun!! unexplained WTC7 to a smart person = read reports, get explanation
kushsmokkeralt 8 months ago
@felicity5150
7 Wtc did not fall into it's own footprint. It horribily damaged fitterman hall and the barclay vesey building and the steel was never tested because it was mixed up with the twin towers steel since as we all know not many people know of building 7.
marvelfannumber1 5 months ago
haha alex jones is such a fraud. he sounds like a tape being rewound backwards.
crwnikeboy 3 years ago
ALEX JONES:
The Revolution Will Be Merchandised
Where have we gone wrong?
watch my channel video "using their words against them"
ElDiabloBlanco911 3 years ago
Wow, an amazing amount of brainwashed stupid sheep commenting on this video
piscesgutt 3 years ago
good video, alex jones is a lying,fraudulent conman just promoting his pathetic web sites.Ron Wieck did really well staying cool.
911TRUTHINATOR 3 years ago
Explosions, explosions,explosions...what else do you need?
riceowlex 3 years ago
Makes the media their own worst enemy...kind of ironic ain't it..I can't wait to fry every last one of them!
riceowlex 3 years ago
during a crown court trial heard in cardiff crown court 1st february 2001 I adduced and jury accepted that bbc journalists had lied with a view to sending me to prison...
if bbc journalists can tell lies under oath,why should we trust that in any event?
notrustbbc 3 years ago
richard bacon is known in the uk for his cocaine snorting activities, although he tells us now he does not partake!
notrustbbc 3 years ago 2
Everyone else gets to talk, but Alex Jones is faded out and has to shout out information before he is cut off again. This is not a sharing of ideas. It's putting your own ideas out and cutting off a person when his ideas don't go along with yours.
These buildings collapsed almost straight down. Fire just doesn't do that to steel buildings. You don't have to have a degree or be an expert to see that. Open your eyes.
AttractionInAction 3 years ago
jones was faded because he wouldn't shut up about his stupid web sites. how many hi-rises were built like wtc 1&2, had 767s crash in to them, had 6 floors instantly on fire ? its a miracle they didn't collapse immediately.
911TRUTHINATOR 3 years ago
you sir, are a moron
piscesgutt 3 years ago
Your ideas intrique me and I'd like to subscribe to your newsletter.
ClunkityClunk4Truth 3 years ago 2
well genius,it wasn't just the fires that did all the damage now was it?
crwnikeboy 3 years ago 2
What an ingnorant ass, all "coincidences" are just too conveniently pointing in the same direction, NOrad, WAR GAMES,ON & ON, THIS GUT IS FULL OF SHIT
compilingevidence 3 years ago
Jesus Christ, Alex just spouts bullshit and hopes no one will notice.
ClunkityClunk4Truth 3 years ago
You are braindead
piscesgutt 3 years ago
Hard-hitting analysis.
ClunkityClunk4Truth 3 years ago
I'm enjoying Jones' attempt at fillibustering Ron, to the point Mr. Bacon had to 'fade him out'.
ClunkityClunk4Truth 3 years ago 2
Good stuff!
Watch my funny conspiracy video blog!
meewsic 3 years ago
Die.
ClunkityClunk4Truth 3 years ago
Ron Wieck , what a crock of lies. This is real good and proper disinformation...
Of course the BBC 'lost' their archive for that uneventful day in september 2001
xtcongo 3 years ago
Once againm the burden of proof is on the conspiracy therists to actually investigate who the hell gave BBC those reports, and stop claiming this one point to be a damn smoking gun, when in fact it means literally nothing to the overall idea you people have of that day.
ytguy12345 3 years ago 2
David Ray Griffin says that having a comprehensive theory only leads to debunkers picking it apart, and suggests that 'doubting by the point' is the only way to cast doubt on the official 9/11 story.
What a crock of shit...
ClunkityClunk4Truth 3 years ago
With that hard-hitting analyis your precious 'new investigation' shall commence...well, never.
ClunkityClunk4Truth 3 years ago 2
It's WIECK, not WICK or WEICK... sorry about that Ron. :-(
buddhaglass 3 years ago