looks like the traditional wing chun. more emphasis on footwork along with controlling opponents center of gravity. Yip Man witheld his knowledge as many masters had in the past, only chooseing 1-2 true indoor disciples. They said he learned 2 separate systems. First taught by Lueng Jan then Lueng Bik.
Now, the commentary is better understood, thanks. First, in this video, Sifu Kwok Fu is not saying those things. He is not in the video. This video looks at Sifu Lun Kai, teaching his disciple, Neldo Sacomani, from Argentina. Second, the Grandmaster Yip Man, he taught all his Wing Chun full in Foshan, his first disciples (although they are alive, two of his original disciples, Lun Kai and Kwok Fu).
They learned the full original Wing Chun from Grandmaster Yip Man, long time before that the students of Hong Kong and his sons. The Wing Chun who taught in Hong Kong is "similar", but it has differences with the Wing Chun in Foshan, which "may be" original. What Kowk Fu says, is "probably" true, because older brothers, transmit the Wing Chun to younger brothers.
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Es cierto, es un video excelente que gracias al Sifu (Maestro) Neldo Sacomani lo podemos ver en la web, porque es de su colección privada, de sus viajes a China para entrenar el más puro Kung Fu Tradicional, y no tuvo inconveniente en compartirlo con todos.
Those elderly gentlemen must have been awesome when they were young. Their ease of skill, speed and fluidity are very impressive. Thanks for posting this, Wing Chun has many branches of its family tree and its good to see other members of the same family.
right, its almost ( personally ) frustrating watching the other dude force his technique however, he is an excellent rep compared to what i have seen on the tube ( red pants ).
awesome video! I love how there seems to be a dialogue, they all seem to be learning from each other, that is so great. This is good quality VT/WC kung fu. Thanks for posting I love watching this stuff..
i was always told that yip man taught everyone wing chun the same...yet everyone seems to do it differently...i really like this video and would like to know more about this sifu...and about yip man and when he was teaching in foshan...help??
LOL，I am a Chinese, extremely surprised saw you that warm-hearted study YONG CHUN (this is this KONG FU China pronounces), it is KONG FU which unceasingly develops, if you want again to step into deeper KONG the FU domain, but also must study and understand other KONG FU consummates oneself, I leave FOSHAN to be extremely near.
Is Pan Nam's system different thatn their's, because as I saw Kon Sifu working on the dummy, he was doing many of the same moves that is in Pan Nam's dummy form.
Actually, that would be, Leung Ting's "WT" is similar to Lun Kais actual, real ving tsun. Leung Ting is not at the "top of the totem pole". I think I'm getting extremely sick of the arrogance of WT people. I think every sifu of wing chun or ving tsun should send Leung Ting a knife.
looks like the traditional wing chun. more emphasis on footwork along with controlling opponents center of gravity. Yip Man witheld his knowledge as many masters had in the past, only chooseing 1-2 true indoor disciples. They said he learned 2 separate systems. First taught by Lueng Jan then Lueng Bik.
Daddyo94521 5 months ago
Is it just me, or is there no sound in this video?
Far7anR 1 year ago
@Far7anR : my friend, is a video without sound.
wailofoshan 1 year ago
用腰馬,配合陰柔勁手法,八掛步同子午朝形拳理真另我獲益良多！師祖教出两位这樣出色的前輩, 真係難得。希望你們的徙弟們能青出於篮: 继續流傳下去。可惜住係英国,太遠了;否則必登門拜訪-多多学習学習。
yiuming117 1 year ago
@yiuming117 : 谢谢 !
wailofoshan 1 year ago
Now, the commentary is better understood, thanks. First, in this video, Sifu Kwok Fu is not saying those things. He is not in the video. This video looks at Sifu Lun Kai, teaching his disciple, Neldo Sacomani, from Argentina. Second, the Grandmaster Yip Man, he taught all his Wing Chun full in Foshan, his first disciples (although they are alive, two of his original disciples, Lun Kai and Kwok Fu).
wailofoshan 1 year ago
They learned the full original Wing Chun from Grandmaster Yip Man, long time before that the students of Hong Kong and his sons. The Wing Chun who taught in Hong Kong is "similar", but it has differences with the Wing Chun in Foshan, which "may be" original. What Kowk Fu says, is "probably" true, because older brothers, transmit the Wing Chun to younger brothers.
wailofoshan 1 year ago
hawe u ewer heard these kwok fus words
the reason Man Sok specifically
taught me the 'Real ' Wing Chun kungfu before leaving
Mainland China was that he hoped that I could in turn
one day teach his kungfll techniques to his sons and
best students. " and wt that ip man teched in hong kong were"some
modified kungfu movements, because 'Man Sok ' would
not willingly teach other people the authentic Wing
Chun (Wing Tsun) kungfu! "
can u belive these respected seniors what comes out of their mouths
haanhasa 1 year ago
@haanhasa: My friend, do not understand what you say. can make it clearer in English, please ?
wailofoshan 1 year ago
@haanhasa Are you saying that they said these things? And are you saying that these statements are authentic, or garbage?
GonxhaMASH 1 year ago
a legend!
ffoecaf2006 1 year ago
@ffoecaf2006:
my friend, you're right !
thank you for putting your comment.
wailofoshan 1 year ago
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universetechnique 2 years ago
Muy buen video de chisao espectacular
luisvillano4 2 years ago
great stuff... can you tell me how lun kai put his wooden dummy in the ground? how it was connected so that it could move? thank you
GearsOfWar1235 3 years ago
I do not know.
anyone know?
wailofoshan 3 years ago
Muy buen video,no se porque las técnicas que explican los Sifus me recuerdan la aplicación del muñeco de madera.....
Saludos
Alachung58 3 years ago
Alachung58, deben ser del muñeco de madera. ;-)
wailofoshan 3 years ago
Excelente video!
pachimen 3 years ago
Hola pachimen !
Es cierto, es un video excelente que gracias al Sifu (Maestro) Neldo Sacomani lo podemos ver en la web, porque es de su colección privada, de sus viajes a China para entrenar el más puro Kung Fu Tradicional, y no tuvo inconveniente en compartirlo con todos.
wailofoshan 3 years ago
Those elderly gentlemen must have been awesome when they were young. Their ease of skill, speed and fluidity are very impressive. Thanks for posting this, Wing Chun has many branches of its family tree and its good to see other members of the same family.
gragrn 3 years ago 2
very spritely for their age, gives hope!
OctoBox 3 years ago
these guys are realy impressive without trying ,economy of footwork,minimal power max effect .
terryhuard 4 years ago
right, its almost ( personally ) frustrating watching the other dude force his technique however, he is an excellent rep compared to what i have seen on the tube ( red pants ).
opticannon 3 years ago
really great!!!
wingchunlearner 4 years ago
interesante, tu shifu es una persona muy preparada; solo quisiera pedirte de favor que si tienes mas videos del shifu Sacomani los subieras.
Recuerda el ving tsung no es una via marcial solamente sino un estilo de vida.
saludos desde mexico
SHEWUSENG 4 years ago
SHEWUSENG: hay dos nuevos videos del Sifu Sacomani.
Los nombres para buscarlos son:
1- Foshan Ving Tsun Lap Sao
2- Ving Tsun Foshan Golpes de entrada
wailofoshan 4 years ago
muchas gracias.
SHEWUSENG 4 years ago
awesome video! I love how there seems to be a dialogue, they all seem to be learning from each other, that is so great. This is good quality VT/WC kung fu. Thanks for posting I love watching this stuff..
keithdoeskungfu 4 years ago
This is one of the best VING TSUN schools in Argentina, the Sacomani Sifu learned Ving Tsun there in Foshan (Guandong) for several years.
Can write this e-correo on its website "WuHsingChuan."
wailofoshan 4 years ago
i was always told that yip man taught everyone wing chun the same...yet everyone seems to do it differently...i really like this video and would like to know more about this sifu...and about yip man and when he was teaching in foshan...help??
nirpal24 4 years ago
I learned a lot from this video. It doesnt matter what lineage it comes from.
Can somebody tell me if there are books or other stuff about this Foshan Ching wu?
maekelon8 4 years ago
Lineage: GGM Yip Man > GM Lun Kai > Sifu Sacomani (from Argentina).
Real Ving Tsun Foshan !
wailofoshan 4 years ago
What's the lineage of this sifu? Is it from the Yip Man line? The footwork was a bit different.
stonecrusher69 4 years ago
Sifu Sacomani is disciple of the Master LunKai (in the video).
Master LunKai is one of the first disciples of GM Yip Man, in Foshan (previous to all of Hong Kong).
Yes it is from Yip Man line.
And yes, the footwork is different, is the classic Yip Man Ving Tsun Foshan.
wailofoshan 4 years ago
this just blew my mind
NYCNECH 4 years ago
just leave it as Wing Chun Kung Fu,
Yong Chun Kong Fu is something you make up
bwang 4 years ago
LOL，I am a Chinese, extremely surprised saw you that warm-hearted study YONG CHUN (this is this KONG FU China pronounces), it is KONG FU which unceasingly develops, if you want again to step into deeper KONG the FU domain, but also must study and understand other KONG FU consummates oneself, I leave FOSHAN to be extremely near.
killgm 5 years ago
This is one of the best Ving Tsun schools in Argentina, the Sacomani Sifu learned Ving Tsun there in Foshan (Guandong) for several years.
Can write this e-correo on its website "WuHsingChuan."
wailofoshan 4 years ago
nice video, but why didn't you put an audio on it?
VingDragon 5 years ago
Is Pan Nam's system different thatn their's, because as I saw Kon Sifu working on the dummy, he was doing many of the same moves that is in Pan Nam's dummy form.
meelah2986 5 years ago
Awesome footage, thanks for sharing.
jsanagus 5 years ago
Great video. I teach ching wu also and its very rare to see it around. so well done on getting that footage
crazymexi 5 years ago
You are a very lucky man to have studied with both masters.
shengchenfan 5 years ago
From what i've seen of Lun Kais Ving Tsun there seem to be alot of simularities to Leung Tings WT. He looks like a good Sifu.
tillerbear 5 years ago
Actually, that would be, Leung Ting's "WT" is similar to Lun Kais actual, real ving tsun. Leung Ting is not at the "top of the totem pole". I think I'm getting extremely sick of the arrogance of WT people. I think every sifu of wing chun or ving tsun should send Leung Ting a knife.
VingTsunTX 4 years ago
take a chill pill. He didnt say LT was number one, only that they looked similar.
Guess you can read what you want into a statement
He even say the sifu looks good. Why didnt you comment on that or did it not go well with your selfrighteousness
jejo68 4 years ago
evaaa los viejitos ahi eh!! aguante EL Bri!!
Califragistico 5 years ago
Is Lun Kai Sifu the very same one Ip Man taught at Foshan in the early 1940's? How did you fine them? Please tell us some more.
mofotox 5 years ago
Exactly!
He is the same person that you say (Lun Kai Sifu).
The first disciple (together with Kowk Fu Sifu) of the great master of Ving Tsun, Yip Man.
Sacomani Sifu (of Argentina) is a disciple of master Lun Kai and also he trains with Kwok Wai Zhang (son of Kwok Fu) there in Foshan City.
wailofoshan 5 years ago