I keep thinking I'll only watch a little bit of Mangini's solos cause they're all so long, but I always end up staying for the whole thing... damn he's good :O
Mangini is the best drummer that ever lived because:
1. He puts all he has in every hit
2. He´s mind is split in 4, unmatched limb indepence
3. Unmatched speed
4. Unmatched theoretical understanding of polyrythms and odd time signatures
5. Can play any style and any known rythm
All the above enables him to create solos, rythms and patterns never heard before. on top of that he´s a showman. And last but not least, he plays AMBIDEXTROUSLY on his symmetrical kit, which is the coolest kit ever..
He is incredibly fast... but I have yet to find a clip on youtube of him playing anything musical or nice to listen to...
I'm not saying that he can't - there are plenty of comments pointing out how good & versatile he is & I'm prepared to believe this - but most youtube clips are of him demonstrating incredible speed. Take this as a criticism of his fans, if you like, but that seems to be the only thing most youtubers are interested in....
@SAHBfan No it´s not speed it´s rythms and patterns. New thinking. This IS nice to listen to for us who gets it. But don´t worry, I don´t get Picasso, but then again I am not really a painter
i don't see him do much speedy stuff with his feet im not taking away from his amazing hand speed but im not seeing any speed from his feet it's kind of disapointing
@SuperGilbs He´s had problems for a while with his knees. He now has gone through knee surgery on both his knees and are still recovering. Even on the DT audition he wasnt fully up to speed (haha). But just wait, until the tour with DT he will be back in business, and I expect will blow our minds as per usual. Knowing him, he is extremely meticulous in his preparations. Read the 18 page special in Drumhead magazine and you will see what I mean ;-)
@nengstro wow yeah thanks for not being a dick when i asked that i actually had no idea that he was having problems with his knees so thanks for telling me
@SuperGilbs He´s had knee surgery, that´s why.He will be up to speed with his old self for a while. Read his extensive interview in the latest Drumhead Magazine, it´s awesome. Really like Mike and his drumming, love for him to be in DT...
@SuperGilbs At this time he just had had knee surgery due to excessive double bass drumming over the years......Watch the newer vids from his Solos on tour with DT and you will see he is getting up there again. But I have read he needs to change his technique to spare his knees, which might take some more time - so give him 6 months from now.....
lol ur not hearing the kit mic. and its extremely rhymthmical you just dont know what your talking about. nothing is ever random and he never goes out of time its all polyrhythms. its a clinic so of course its lots of fast stuff
not saying u did but u said it wasnt rhythmical. thats not an opinion either it is or it isnt and this is obviously very rhythmical. maybe you meant musical thats a little more subjective
My point is that it's good to go to a drum clinic and see Mangini (and other musicians) do fast rolls that you can't do yourself. If he did regular rolls that I can do at home myself then I might as well listen to myself at home and not go to a clinic.
Some people don't understand that there are musical displays then there are technical displays. When someone is displaying technique, you can't judge the music and say that the music is not good. And when someone is displaying music, you can't say the technique is not highly skilled.
dude first im a kid i dont understand your highschool words 2 i dont see that the music is not good he,s is god on the drums dude and his toms sound great nothing wrong with not at al
That was an joke he made earlier about people ripping on him bc he "only plays fast" and people not understanding that this is a drum solo clinic... He can do what he wants
hey man, thanks so much for uploading this video. i really love mangini's playing and as you said below, he's not just all about playing fast, he's about playing musically. he played the zeppelin medley in australia and it was AMAZING.
"Chopzilla" drummers like Mike Mangini and Virgil Donati approach drumming like it's a race car event.. All about who can drive the fastest..
I guess there's a place for 'sports approach' to drumming but too often it sends the wrong message to young drummers who play way too busy, don't listen, and can't figure out why they are not working!
before he did this whole clinic, he saw me and asked if this was going on YouTube... i said most likely.
he said he hates youtube because of all the people on there who think all he can do is play fast. remind you of anyone?
and the part of the solo where he had to readjust his cymbal... it was at that part that he said "o, my bad, i guess its because i was playing fast and not musically"
and here you go, critiquing the fastest drummer in the world... if you think there is no technique, if you think there is less skill put into what he is doing, then you put something up hot shot.
Drummers like Steve Smith, Jack DeJohnette, Billy Hart, Billy Cobham, Dennis Chambers, Steve Gadd, Antonio Sanchez are some of the baddest drummers and though they can play lightning fast have great instincts, always play musically, and above all they LISTEN and compliment the music they are playing.
A - yes, he can play a good groove. right before this solo he did a 45 minute led zeppelin medley and he nailed every single beat.
A - most definitely. have you sat and listened to the intricacy of this solo? watch his feet, watch his hands... count what hes doing... keep the beat with the combinations of what his extremities are doing.
A - can you play a sensitive ballad with dynamics and brushes?
My point is; I believe Mike Magini is a fine drummer and could probably sit in on one of my jazz or funk gigs and actually swing..
What bothers me and is my point is too much emphasis in clinics (and it's perpetuated mostly by the drum industry to sell drums, sticks, & cymbals)is on this 'who's the fastest drummer' thing which has nothing to do with whether the drummer can actually play with taste, musicality, and good time, and using chops (rudiments) creatively and practically.
Teaching private lessons now for 13 years I get my share of guys who are totally influenced by the hype and just want lessons to play fast & flashy around the kit and with stick tricks and with no interest in learning to actually play the snare drum or drum kit with a musical approach and are often impatient and unwilling to commit to the many hours of practice to become a "Chopzilla".
Mike Magini I know can actually play. I was Mike and Dom Famularo do a clinic that was educational as well as entertaining. And if I recall Mike scatted Zappa's "Black Page"..
yeah people Definitely check out some Extreme, they are a good band, he was only on a couple albums I believe, but the albums he was on and the ones before he joined are good, the rest I can do without. Was he on any Steve Vai albums does anyone know?
he looks like he has the tourette syndrome when he changes his tempo
AltamenteFC 8 months ago
I fell special because i was there
thelegendofzelda97 8 months ago
I keep thinking I'll only watch a little bit of Mangini's solos cause they're all so long, but I always end up staying for the whole thing... damn he's good :O
CelestialTina 9 months ago
mike portnoy who?
AIRampage 9 months ago
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Mangini is the best drummer that ever lived because:
1. He puts all he has in every hit
2. He´s mind is split in 4, unmatched limb indepence
3. Unmatched speed
4. Unmatched theoretical understanding of polyrythms and odd time signatures
5. Can play any style and any known rythm
All the above enables him to create solos, rythms and patterns never heard before. on top of that he´s a showman. And last but not least, he plays AMBIDEXTROUSLY on his symmetrical kit, which is the coolest kit ever..
nengstro 10 months ago
He is incredibly fast... but I have yet to find a clip on youtube of him playing anything musical or nice to listen to...
I'm not saying that he can't - there are plenty of comments pointing out how good & versatile he is & I'm prepared to believe this - but most youtube clips are of him demonstrating incredible speed. Take this as a criticism of his fans, if you like, but that seems to be the only thing most youtubers are interested in....
SAHBfan 1 year ago
@SAHBfan No it´s not speed it´s rythms and patterns. New thinking. This IS nice to listen to for us who gets it. But don´t worry, I don´t get Picasso, but then again I am not really a painter
nengstro 10 months ago
Crazy singles on the snare!! His footwork is one of the best! Seen him live twice!
PhatPhunk 1 year ago
This makes me very happy! Mangini is awesome!
TheSetite 1 year ago
i don't see him do much speedy stuff with his feet im not taking away from his amazing hand speed but im not seeing any speed from his feet it's kind of disapointing
SuperGilbs 1 year ago
@SuperGilbs Poly rhythms don`t need to go fast. Trust me, he can go fast if he needs too
jhoov1407 1 year ago 2
@SuperGilbs He´s had problems for a while with his knees. He now has gone through knee surgery on both his knees and are still recovering. Even on the DT audition he wasnt fully up to speed (haha). But just wait, until the tour with DT he will be back in business, and I expect will blow our minds as per usual. Knowing him, he is extremely meticulous in his preparations. Read the 18 page special in Drumhead magazine and you will see what I mean ;-)
nengstro 9 months ago
@nengstro wow yeah thanks for not being a dick when i asked that i actually had no idea that he was having problems with his knees so thanks for telling me
SuperGilbs 8 months ago
@SuperGilbs He´s had knee surgery, that´s why.He will be up to speed with his old self for a while. Read his extensive interview in the latest Drumhead Magazine, it´s awesome. Really like Mike and his drumming, love for him to be in DT...
nengstro 8 months ago
@SuperGilbs At this time he just had had knee surgery due to excessive double bass drumming over the years......Watch the newer vids from his Solos on tour with DT and you will see he is getting up there again. But I have read he needs to change his technique to spare his knees, which might take some more time - so give him 6 months from now.....
nengstro 7 months ago
king of hi-hats
MrLeedom 1 year ago
3:20
oh even lawder.
Oddj0b 2 years ago
2:45
oh lawd.
Oddj0b 2 years ago
holy crap!! haha, awesome drumming Mike
persini 2 years ago 3
the kit sounds like paper and cardboard. i don't find it that rhymthmical. just fast. perhaps not so creative as other drummers.
eljaz 2 years ago
lol ur not hearing the kit mic. and its extremely rhymthmical you just dont know what your talking about. nothing is ever random and he never goes out of time its all polyrhythms. its a clinic so of course its lots of fast stuff
drumeric33 2 years ago
i didn't say random. i didn't say out of time. i was stating my opinion.
eljaz 2 years ago
not saying u did but u said it wasnt rhythmical. thats not an opinion either it is or it isnt and this is obviously very rhythmical. maybe you meant musical thats a little more subjective
drumeric33 2 years ago
well, maybe rhythmical is the wrong word, but i think you got the idea.
eljaz 2 years ago
to drumeric33:
At a drum clinic you want to see musicians do things that you can't do. I don't want to go a clinic to see a musician do things I can do myself at.
Stefan990 2 years ago
whats your point?
mangini is my teacher and my favorite drummer read the rest of my comments. the "playing fast and unmusically" comment was pure sarcasm
drumeric33 2 years ago
to drumeric33:
My point is that it's good to go to a drum clinic and see Mangini (and other musicians) do fast rolls that you can't do yourself. If he did regular rolls that I can do at home myself then I might as well listen to myself at home and not go to a clinic.
Stefan990 2 years ago
lol my point is, i agree.
drumeric33 2 years ago
to eljaz:
The drums don't sound good because of the way they are tuned. You can get those drums to sound much better.
Stefan990 2 years ago
@Stefan990 it is more the recording device, not as much the drums.
Flatliner0452 2 years ago
fuck you dude he,s a amezing drumer he is one of the drummers of steve vai noeb
norwayfinland 2 years ago
mm maybe ur right. i should just eat my words really. :D he's a pretty fucking great drummer.
eljaz 2 years ago
yeah he is;-)
norwayfinland 2 years ago
to norwayfinland:
Some people don't understand that there are musical displays then there are technical displays. When someone is displaying technique, you can't judge the music and say that the music is not good. And when someone is displaying music, you can't say the technique is not highly skilled.
Stefan990 2 years ago
dude first im a kid i dont understand your highschool words 2 i dont see that the music is not good he,s is god on the drums dude and his toms sound great nothing wrong with not at al
norwayfinland 2 years ago
to norwayfinland:
At 3:03 he says he "was playing fast not musically." This means he was displaying technique and not music.
Stefan990 2 years ago
That was an joke he made earlier about people ripping on him bc he "only plays fast" and people not understanding that this is a drum solo clinic... He can do what he wants
jhoov1407 2 years ago
THis guy should cover the Album ...And Justice for All by Metallica. Then, again, the drum parts for that are too easy for this guy.
Wiiman895 2 years ago 4
sou mais o RONALDO.... xD
paladinoleonam 2 years ago
no se si es el wey q esta grabando pero parece que se la esta metiendo mike mangini a distancia pinche pendejo deja de quejarte
hurantia 2 years ago
nice quick and accurate
199dan199 2 years ago
holy shit.....
TheDavyjr 2 years ago
pretty much this guys unreeeeallll
jhoov1407 2 years ago 2
hes teaching me :)
NBomb187 2 years ago
i love the criss crossed limb corrdination part at the beginning (right hand left against left hand right foot)
drumeric33 2 years ago
hey man, thanks so much for uploading this video. i really love mangini's playing and as you said below, he's not just all about playing fast, he's about playing musically. he played the zeppelin medley in australia and it was AMAZING.
so thanks again and MANGINI RULES!
bojosoto 3 years ago
"Chopzilla" drummers like Mike Mangini and Virgil Donati approach drumming like it's a race car event.. All about who can drive the fastest..
I guess there's a place for 'sports approach' to drumming but too often it sends the wrong message to young drummers who play way too busy, don't listen, and can't figure out why they are not working!
RANDY7751 3 years ago
again
here we are
before he did this whole clinic, he saw me and asked if this was going on YouTube... i said most likely.
he said he hates youtube because of all the people on there who think all he can do is play fast. remind you of anyone?
and the part of the solo where he had to readjust his cymbal... it was at that part that he said "o, my bad, i guess its because i was playing fast and not musically"
jhoov1407 3 years ago
and here you go, critiquing the fastest drummer in the world... if you think there is no technique, if you think there is less skill put into what he is doing, then you put something up hot shot.
ready... go
jhoov1407 3 years ago
When did drumming become just an ego driven competitive sport with the emphasis on the fastest hands and best stick tricks?
RANDY7751 3 years ago
guitars did it too
zacz19 3 years ago
Q. Can he tastefully and with good time play rock, funk, bebop, or latin with a rhythm section and making it all groove?
Q. Does he put the music first and listen to the other musicians or does he overplay forcing them to go with his ideas?
Q. Can he play a sensitive ballad with dynamics and with brushes?
RANDY7751 3 years ago
Drummers like Steve Smith, Jack DeJohnette, Billy Hart, Billy Cobham, Dennis Chambers, Steve Gadd, Antonio Sanchez are some of the baddest drummers and though they can play lightning fast have great instincts, always play musically, and above all they LISTEN and compliment the music they are playing.
RANDY7751 3 years ago
RANDY
seriously, cut it out
heres the deal
A - yes, he can play a good groove. right before this solo he did a 45 minute led zeppelin medley and he nailed every single beat.
A - most definitely. have you sat and listened to the intricacy of this solo? watch his feet, watch his hands... count what hes doing... keep the beat with the combinations of what his extremities are doing.
A - can you play a sensitive ballad with dynamics and brushes?
jhoov1407 3 years ago
Yes I can actually play a sensitive ballad with brushes and with color as well as with dynamics, and I LISTEN..
RANDY7751 3 years ago
My point is; I believe Mike Magini is a fine drummer and could probably sit in on one of my jazz or funk gigs and actually swing..
What bothers me and is my point is too much emphasis in clinics (and it's perpetuated mostly by the drum industry to sell drums, sticks, & cymbals)is on this 'who's the fastest drummer' thing which has nothing to do with whether the drummer can actually play with taste, musicality, and good time, and using chops (rudiments) creatively and practically.
RANDY7751 3 years ago
Teaching private lessons now for 13 years I get my share of guys who are totally influenced by the hype and just want lessons to play fast & flashy around the kit and with stick tricks and with no interest in learning to actually play the snare drum or drum kit with a musical approach and are often impatient and unwilling to commit to the many hours of practice to become a "Chopzilla".
RANDY7751 3 years ago
Mike Magini I know can actually play. I was Mike and Dom Famularo do a clinic that was educational as well as entertaining. And if I recall Mike scatted Zappa's "Black Page"..
RANDY7751 3 years ago
Whoops, the word is 'saw'..
RANDY7751 3 years ago
I meant to say 'I saw Mike and Dom Famularo' ..
I have a tendency to rant a little and I know I'll probably get the lion's share share of nasty comments.. lol..
This isn't so much about Mike Magini as it is about how the industry turns the artistry of drumming into a 'pissing contest'..
RANDY7751 3 years ago
well you failed to state that it is more about the industry than mike... and next time, message me.
again, it is a drum clinic... it is essentially a solo, so for him to do what he wants, he is more than able to, i know i cant do what he can do.
i understand what you mean by wanting to go fast all the time, and for alot of mainstream bands, that is so.
but again, message me about this...
jhoov1407 3 years ago
not bad for a guy who used to write codes for the patriot missile system ... \m/
stringriffer00 3 years ago
haha wtf was that at 512?
SlipperyPimp7 3 years ago
haha
that was me groaning bc of his pure awesomeness
jhoov1407 3 years ago
ha well thats understandable
SlipperyPimp7 3 years ago
love it! he is the god of drums.
yeah people Definitely check out some Extreme, they are a good band, he was only on a couple albums I believe, but the albums he was on and the ones before he joined are good, the rest I can do without. Was he on any Steve Vai albums does anyone know?
vastar87 3 years ago
5:12 xD
BajsIBrallanBengt 3 years ago
Thanks a lot for posting. That was awesome
11111phil11111 3 years ago
Haha. I was sitting way at the back. Looking at the moniter with the foot view.
buckethead77 3 years ago
Haha i was there too!!! i was sitting like a little bit over to left i was the kid haha
claytoonthespoon 3 years ago
ha i think i talked to you after
wanted to know where you got the autograph signed
haha, small world
jhoov1407 3 years ago
Haha I was there!
I wanted that snare :(
buckethead77 3 years ago
ha really?
where were you sitting?
and yeea... i wanted that snare too.. but someone unworthy got it... eerrg
jhoov1407 3 years ago
Wow, that guy is amazing!
novanine 3 years ago
Finally - new Mangini stuff! Thanks dude! Please upload anything else you have. He's the man.
Peartyboy 3 years ago
yea man
my pleasure to put it up... it was a sick night
ha, im still high off the mangini
yo, check out my other videos too, ill check your outt
jhoov1407 3 years ago