Halo:Reach Armor Lock Problem

[HaloReachKell]

Your shields dont recharge unless someone

Hits you or energy swords you or hammers you

[MrsicoTube]

Holy fucking shit it a god-damn game mechanic. Man up or play another game! Are fucking snipers OP?

[TheHelljumper22]

thumbs up if u think who ever uses amorlock is a noob

[ramjamflimflam]

This is just one reason I lost interest in this game. Sorry Halo but your time is gone. Love ya though!

[iiTz343]

@ramjamflimflam Halo's time isn't gone. Reach was just flawed after being hyped up. Halo 4 is still in production so we'll see where it goes from there.

[00duke1]

Honestly, to be chep like this, one has to be better at armor-locking than the one's shooting/meleeing are at shooting/meleeing. It is known that if you are shot while in armor-lock, you will live but it still resets the sheild recharge. In all of your examples, the shooters didn't exploit this and instead allowed the locker to recharge. Another fact is that melee is incrediably ineffective and should never be used against a locker. Tip: Keep shooting, throw grenades, NEVER get close.

[lemler33]

i have a problem were sometimes people break through my amour lock when it still has about 50% left on it =/

[iShYnEBoYJR]

it a glitch that all

[gamesmaster4ever]

Wow..this just proves how broken it was....

[kennysdeaths111]

i like armour lock but i see these problems clearly!

[Volt704]

Its a game, you cant expect no problems after all

[Burkbang]

all armor lock users are fucking gay noobs

[KraZXIXLuey]

also the last example looked like an aimbot

[jdcr444]

I hate hate armor lock with a burning passion, it's like Second Chance(If you play CoD) but it wouldn't be such a problem if it was removed from MP Matchmaking.

[hornedragon]

i wish bungie would fix it but there not i wonder how pissed they would get if they played against it. like the entire other team had it.

[Smite311]

this is funny because Bungie isn't going to fix it

[ShadowJLDVSR]

Am... dude actually the guy with the EVA I think he is one of those hackers, because He doesnt have the armor lock and he do a Double Kill and it didnt appears the medal, but Still after the recharged more than half shield, it dissapears with ONE shot, that means that system or that process between the recharge, the internet, and the damage wasnt perfectly made. Maybe you should use another example from a custom game.

[donuts254]

Get over it no lifer

[dragonballzleon]

wow thase people must really be noobs using armor lock all the time

[shadow1854]

Coming from someone that has emp blasted thousands of players, and has thousands of rejection medals and hundreds of armor lock kills.. A lot of the stuff in this video happen because of lag.. If you get out of armor lock, someone shoots you and your shield recharges there is a problem with connection, not the armor ability.

[tooschoolforcool]

How is this video only 3k views? Put this shit up on bungie forums where it'll get noticed

[drag00n77]

you guys are noobs i take down armour lockers on a daily basis...even if they get an extra second of invincibility it wont be enough when facing me...if you have trouble killing armour lockers then get better at the game because they are pretty easy to kill...shoot enemy...enemy locks armour...enemy unlocks armour...proceed killing...it just buys them time...which almost never helps..so whats the big deal?

[MultiThisguy123]

The person in example2 doesnt get hurt beacause he still had the blue shielding over him

[99GTvert]

that one at :34 is complete bullshit. i had similar happen to me a few times yesterday...dropped their shields with the AR and moved in for a melee, but they go into AL as i clash with them...but after the melee action, my player is like disoriented and sluggish for a second allowing the AL'er to do damage.

i wish they would adjust the timing of AL to balance it out somewhat.

[LP6704svMurcielago]

half of those were him not fully recovered from armorlock

[LP6704svMurcielago]

lag who cares

[OmegaProject16]

Ummmmm... So basically what you're crying about it lag. kthxbai

[iusethisoneforcrap]

it is fail.

[turtleman1208]

Armour lock is...........debatable. People using melee, AL, melee ar quite annoying, as well as beingg able to negate sticky grenades. but that thing is SO -blam-ing useful when the other team are stomping all over your spawn in vehicles.

[chuckar0o]

The Armor lock issue has already been addressed...

Your regular shield and AL shield r 2 separate things... A melee,regular weapon will have little effect the spilt-second after AL releases...however the best way to beat this is with a power weapon or grenades (Because they can immediately removed ur shield and damage the healthbar)...

[Dogfather95]

Someone actually spent the time to make a video and Youtube channel about Armor Lock? Wow, its just a fucking game.

[ArmorL0ck]

@Dogfather95 yeah a whole 30 minutes and I'm not even getting paid

[Seandude451]

@Dogfather95 Tell that to machinama and IGN

[Bauzi514]

You need to proove your thesis with experiments set on a LAN connection. Otherwise I will just call it lag and latency.

[ElliotDrake]

Armor Lock is like a tampon, it's for pussies.

[Zomechin]

@ElliotDrake Armor Lock isn't for pussies, it's for people who are smart and who take advantage of what the game provides them. Don't blame the people who use armor lock, blame the developer who idiotically created it.

[xFallensk8er420x]

@Zomechin at least you agree it was idiotically created. but i blame the people who use it and the idiot who created it. halo is dead to me now

[alexl162]

this video is fucking stupid. On the other guys screen he was in armour lock before the final headshot etc, this is what client authorative hit detectio is, stop clouding the fucking issue.

[ujustgotownedbykevin]

i don't have a problem with armour lock, sure it's annoying but it can be used differently, just to block grenade damage, sword lungers and noobs who just sprint and double beat down. if im playing guys who are whoring the sword, spamming grenades or trying to double beat me down all the time, of course im going to use the most effective counter to those people. im guessing most of the people who bitch about AL are in one of these groups of people.

[HoverKitteh]

lag

[MrSlimification]

This is very sad. it just a game.

[Spralsh]

You get a quarter of a seconds worth of invulnerability after exiting Armour Lock, enough time to take one step. All the examples have him being shot during that first step. After that, then it was fair game.

This is the sole reason why the invulnerability was implemented. So as soon as you exit Armour Lock, you won't be able to get killed instantly.

[A3LeggedGoat]

@Spralsh herp derp. Reward the person who was outplayed by making him invulnerable to damage. AL is retarded.

[Spralsh]

@A3LeggedGoat To be honest, the other people got outplayed. They stood too close to the Armour Locker it's hilarious.

[ViewtifulJoe13]

@A3LeggedGoat Yo! Aren't you from b.net, sir? :P

[ArmorL0ck]

@Spralsh This is the whole problem with Armor Lock. I'm okay with AL except for this 'invulnerability' immediately after coming out of AL. It's one thing to get ouplayed, go into AL, and get saved by your teammates. But it's entirely unfair and game-changing when you get outplayed, go into AL, and then get to have the first step while being invincible. You, the armor locker, is no longer they prey but the predator.

[ArmorL0ck]

@Spralsh Example 4 highlights this perfectly. The armor locker gets melee'd removing his shields and then goes into AL. When AL expires the blue guy melee him again but because of the 'frosting' he takes no damage, however during this time armor lock both saved his life AND took down the blue player's shields allowing him to take a beat-down to the grill, survive, and then beat-down the blue guy and earn the kill.

The blue player beat down the red guy TWICE and died instead of earning a kill.

[ArmorL0ck]

@Spralsh All the red guy did was hit a button, allowing him to live when he should have died, and then armor lock did the rest - took away the blue players shields and negated a beat-down - allowing the red player to simply hit RB to earn a cheap kill.

It doesn't matter if the blue player 'stood to close' or is an idiot for getting EMP'd. His 2nd beat-down on the SAME PLAYER should have earned him a kill.

[Dcxcman]

@Spralsh But you SHOULD get killed instantly coming out of armor lock. Armor lock is meant to buy time until teammates can help or protect from grenades, rockets, et cetera. If you go into armor lock on the brink of death after being truly outplayed, you should not be granted time to attack AND BE INVINCIBLE AT THE SAME TIME.

[DoingYourGrandpa]

All of these issues, I assure you, are caused simply by your mom.

[MAXPWNAGE00001]

So what have we learned? 1. Armor Lock is extremely laggy. There is a large amount of time in which he doesn't look like he is in armor lock but is invincible 2. Shields CAN recharge while in AL Really, Bungie just remove it, you have created a glitchy, laggy mess of an AA

[GeNisM666]

To me armor lock only becomes an issue when an entire team are whoring the shit out of it, so in that sense bungies logic is broken. If they're going to end the complaints it needs to be handled, either in fixing it or making it a map based pick up. IMO they should do the pick up route for normal slayer non vehicle games, and keep it a default loadout for gametypes with vehicles. Problem solved.

[awexsome2034]

The "frosting" is there to prevent AL from being useless from assasinations but I think just not counting time in AL towards the time needed to let the sheilds recharge and it would be very well balanced.

[Texasboy712]

I love all the hate directed at me. LOL

MLG/Competitive fanboy tears are delicious.

Get used to AL guys. It isnt going to change.

[Bobbe92]

@Texasboy712 I always laugh when they whine at me on live, I got an overkill using armor lock recently because the idiots tried to melee me in AL so their shields went down and I came out and throwed a good ol' nade, I dont see why according to them it was a cheap kill because they tried to melee me in the first place when I'm using AL, also killng AL is easy just time a 'Nade and he is done

[wwwe2587064]

@NarutosReviews ok lets say a ghost was charging at you and you had armor lock and u couldnt move what wud u do? hmm use armor lock so its not gay at all i think the users are gay not the ability

[Dcxcman]

@NarutosReviews Please don't compare gay people to armorlockers. That's incredibly insulting.

[MRIStudios]

Shhhhh,Sage might nerf it.

[F45B]

There is a split second of time after you come out of the lock when you can still take more damage than you normally could, but if it is from a weapon that would kill you in one hit it will kill, like rockets. This is because the armor lock shield still hasn't fully dissipated, so the player's normal shields still haven't taken any damage, so they can start recharging.

As for #1, that was fair. They were out of combat long enough for them to start recharging.

[CuteGurlZoey]

Problem with armor lock?Simple.Give up and go find easier prey.

Best case scenario is some one on your team finished off the offending player(or you get an assist in FFA)

Worst case scenario AL user follows you and kills you.

Either way they still used their AA in the way it was meant to be used,to avoid taking damage.

Evade is used the same way as Armor lock to avoid damage by using cover and as a distance closer like sprint and a quick maneuver like jet pack but people don't complain about it.

[UnQuebecoisBleu]

I have to say that... you définetely have no life to make such video. This looks like you're just pissed off by the game and you want other people to think like you. But we won't. 'cause halo reach is awesome.

[xmat123x]

@UnQuebecoisBleu Shut up frenchy. Armorlock is pure bullshit right now and this further proves that it should be either fixed/nerfed or even taken out. People who try to fight evidence such as this are most likely players heavily exploiting such defect in the game.

[UnQuebecoisBleu]

@xmat123x

Cry more.

[iTzBurg3Rsempai]

Cry moar.

No seriously.

Get used to it.

[SneakiRogue]

1. Fair

2. Lag

3.AL was still on

4. you guys just suck, seriously that was sad.

5. he was breathing right on the guy with AL's shoulder he deserved to lose

Basicaly what Texasboy712 said,that added, when you leave AL you get  1 sec of being invincible

[gamesmaster4ever]

@SneakiRogue

AL, fair?

Lol nope.

[UltimateHigh]

You can put bullets into the guy armor locking in order to keep him from recharging his shield.

Regardless, the Armor Lock loadout(maybe as a pick up too) is absolutely TERRIBLE for any kind of competitive play. Even more so in the hands of a team working together cohesively. It's trolling in video game form, basically LOL.

Invis as a load out is wack too. It's annoying while enabling a bitch to be able to play as a bitch at all times.

[appidydafoo]

Seriously, this is flagrant bullshit and the only AA which allows you to cheat death in such an obvious way.

[kevtyan]

all i could notice was how cool the EMP blasts looked..

[Newcomer119]

Armor lock is cool, dont be hating on it. :)

[Spacestefano]

i hate it when ppl use armor lock like that at 32 seconds

[TinnedWaffles]

To fix this there should be a delay, like Drop Shield, of your armor actually locking. So only when you're crouched you actually Armor Lock.

And it should remain in first person view.

[Pro3tag]

I agree that it should probably be fixed, and Bungie will probably fix it in the near future, but still man. Really? I've had a few moments in matchmaking where i go "wtf how did he kill me?" but they are easily avoidable once you play through the game a couple of times. Just dont be retarded and charge a guy in armor lock. Wait at a distance. Or run away.

[dre8z]

Please disregard the first clip of the shields recharging for all you idiots who think that is the problem I'm trying to highlight. It's not. That clip was put in purely as evidence that shields CAN recharge while in armor lock as I was unaware that they could when this was made.

[jimmygott]

Play with an Aussie latency and you'll know this is all bullocks. Never seen any of this shit happen ever.

[asmileyface199]

Example 4 was lag. The others were armor lock issues. Please for the love of god bungie fix armor lock if you want us to play regular DMRs with all armor abilities in Arena,

[Masterrulax]

Stop complaining kids.

[Texasboy712]

Stop whining.

1. was fair.

2. was pure lag.

3. If you see the glow then he is still shielded by Armor Lock.

Armor Lock was extremely nerfed from the beta when it was actually fine but because you little competitive bitches cant adapt we have a Spamfest DMR, a severly inaccurate Magnum, and a weak Focus Rifle.

ADAPT, DIE, or go back to Halo 3.

[ArmorL0ck]

@Texasboy712

Dude, I'm not whining. And I know #1 was fair, I never stated otherwise. I was simply proving shields *can* recharge while in armor lock. That is all.

However in hindsight I probably should have left that out as it is not really an issue just an annoyance.

[MrSarmet]

@Texasboy712 God you are fucking stupid

[MikeAKAEarl]

@Texasboy712 Armor lock disrupts the flow of the game and takes absolutely no skill. It's the save me button. ... And if you think the Magnum is innacurrate you must be terrible.

[Snowboarder3195]

@Texasboy712 tard

[rickyboi89]

@Texasboy712 obvious armor lock whore

[michaelboredass]

@Texasboy712 "Was pure lag" ahahaha what an idiot.

[GeNisM666]

@Texasboy712

Whoa, the magnum was more accurate in the beta?

[Texasboy712]

@GeNisM666 It held it's accuracy at farther distances than it does now.

[GeNisM666]

@Texasboy712

I wish they would bring it back to its former glory then because it seems like it could be more reliable, not too much of an upgrade but just a little to the accuracy would make it more reliable. IMO

[357Y1]

@Texasboy712 texas boy is pompus fuck, gtfo

NOWWWWWWWW

[AkimboLizard]

@Texasboy712 lol, I love when 11 year olds think that saying adapt or die makes them sound cool, gtfo, the internet is for grown-ups

[xAzureKitsunex]

@Texasboy712 I loved the beta weapons for all the facts the stated. The focus rifle is like the most useless weapon now lol.

[weegeetailsdoll]

the answer? lag...

[NvnLikeAnyOther]

The ONE thing in Reach I consider to be a failure. :(

[blondbassist]

I don't think that introducing a "Hold LB To Become Invincible" option is smart for any game.

[UpgradeX869]

Acually you do have a couple seconds of being invincable after coming out of armor lock so that you can turn around and face your enemie

And armor lock is not the least useful you just have to know how to use it

[dont4ndare]

this is so fucking stupid, and so fucking annoying

[VitalVampyr]

Shields recharge in armor lock: So?

Taking damage while not in armor lock: Games have bugs, deal with it.

Issue not addressed in video: Armor Lock is the least useful armor ability by far.

[Gawpi]

@VitalVampyr You should play arena then Luls.

[iWalshy]

judging by this footage all being from the same game I'd say latency until I see a few examples of it. Must have been really annoying in game though.

[Kenryuenryu]

its normal that shields recharge in armor lock, but yeah kinda weird. that doesnt happen to me