Hey everyone. Just wanted to let you all know that the 1st demo of Cantata For Dancing IV is up. Please go to OCRemix in the workshop section to hear it or go to Oren Productions and listen. Let me know what you all think.
Everybody... Seriously, Kefka is probably the greatest villain in Final Fantasy history. He was the FIRST and ONLY one to ever want and then become a god. He also does it without any real motivation or help from some demon or other powerful entity. And, before I stop, he does way more EVIL things than Sephiroth. Sephiroth may be okay, but Kefka kicks so much more ass...
@AwsmChimera Um... Garland became Chaos, God of Discord in Final Fantasy I, and Mateus Palamecia became both Emperor of Hell (Devil) and Emperor of Heaven (God) after his original mortal form was killed. So... he actually wanted and became a god before Kefka did.
@krat0s9001 Yeah, but his point is still valid. Kefka was not the "first and only" to want and become a God. And tbh I hate when people compare him to Sephiroth. They're not even similar. It's like comparing Cloud and Zidane, or Shadow and Snow.
@krat0s9001 That's my point, you wouldn't do it lol And no he wasn't, I won't bother listing others since if you look not far below blaze has actually already said it himself. There are 5 final fantasy games before VI and they all follow a pretty similar trend - the main villain wanting to more or less become a God, or a being with unrivaled power. I'm not sure about III mind you, I haven't managed to get my hands on the original III yet and I've not managed to get into the DS version yet.
@dianateabag I believe it is a mockery of it since that part is played in his third tear which represents his narcissism, selfishness, and his... i supposed poetic mind just like the third tear looks very much like... I forgot but its a very famous greek or roman sculpture
I wanted to officially announce that Jeremy and I are at work on the fourth installment of the Cantata For Dancing. We are both very excited to be working with each other once again and are also excited about this amazing arrangement. At 12+ minutes it will be the longest of the movements. It will also be the highest quality as I've completely upgraded my DAW's and also upgraded to a 64 bit host. We'll keep you posted as we progress.
Please tell me that picture of Kefka is moving slightly... Either that or I'm hallucinating and should go to sleep... But this song is a masterpiece...
And you FFVII/Advent Lovers. Angels don't kill, even with one wing. An Angel is not an angel with both wings, so calling him an angel is just nonsense.
@Noke0 actually Angels do kill. i mean, look at the Devil, he's an angel who was cast out of heaven. and now what does he do? Steal, Kill, and Destroy. but i agree that calling him an Angel is absolute nonsense.
What I like most is that Kefka knew he wasn't strong enough to act on his Chaotic Evil intentions, so he used backstabbing Neutral Evil tactics, once ascending to god hood becoming Chaotic.
Wisdom confers power, power confers right. Simply, if you are able to do something, because of your cunning, cleverness, or intelligence, then it is your right to do that that thing or rule over the bested person. For most that means we place ourselves on top of some small set of achievements. For Kefka, it meant he got to become a God. A simpler more immutable statement of his divine right as ruler of all things, I do not know of
@AlaricSinclair Wisdom, however, is not the same as cunning, cleverness or intelligence. A person can be those three other things and yet lack wisdom. Wisdom is a deep understanding and realization of people, things, events or situations, resulting in the ability to choose or act or inspire to consistently produce the optimum results with a minimum of time, energy or thought. Kefka doesn't really understand people. He knows how to manipulate them, but he doesn't understand them.
The fact that there's even debates about who is better (Sephy vs. Kef) means Kefka is, at the very least, up there as far as memorable villains are concerned (Seph had all that FF VII hype and movies for Kekfa's sake, all Kef had was a PSP game appearance that doesn't do him justice and a couple of scenes in a FMV for the PS1.
i like how everyone's fighting about Kefka and Sephiroth, but nobody mentions how Emperor Mateus beat them both to it. And became TWO gods... And he's probably hotter than Sephiroth. Kefka's still awesome.
This song is incredible. It just resumes all the evil, perversion and joy for death and destruction in Kefka's mind (in short, what I always have been dreaming of during my high school). It's really epic. I was waiting for a version like this.
@silvertigrex you must have a crapton of reply commentary... But yeah.
Kefka is a Villain, clear and true.
Sephiroth is a bit more mysterious and confusing, but he's an Antagonist, not a villain.
Both are imposing and dangerous and worthy of being feared, but they truly aren't similar entities...
If you want a comparison point. Look at Hojo. He's the closest thing to a villain you can get in FF7 (other then Shin-ra) and add Dirge of Cerberus in his repertoire and he's well worthy.
@Safer7Sephiroth Interesting interpretation, but following what is presented in VII (and Advent Children), that's not the case. The Promised Land is a state of mind, an ideal or desire (for the Cetra, it was to be assimilated into the Lifestream and become one with the planet). Sephiroth (like Shin-Ra), thought the Promised Land was the Northern Crater. In that case, Sephiroth had already found it, and just wanted to become a god (maybe another "promise land" desire).
Although Kefka is my favorite villian, and zeromus/seph/kuja/ulti/etc were pretty decent too, I'd say Garland(ff1, not ff9) is by far the most dangerous villian of all. He fucking TIME-TRAVELED, and then made himself immortal after he got there.
The REAL difference between Kefka & Sephiroth is evident! Kefka realize his dream but got destroyed at the end. He did'nt come back like Sephiroth who will always live in the Stream Of Life ;) Sephiroth's best because he can come back from Death!
Anyway! AtmaWeapon (FF8) & Weapon (FF7) are stronger than theses 2 boss!
For me there is one big difference between Kefka and Sephiroth. I love both of them, they are both great villains. However, Kefka accomplished his goal of becoming a god and ruling the world, were as Sephiroth failed in his goal of truly becoming one with the planet. For me, that's the winning factor.
I would prefer the world of FF7 over FF6 any day but, you got to admit that villain wise, Kefka was way better then Sephiroth. I'm a big fan of FF7 but other FF7 fans have to get real. Are you liking Seph more because he's "cool" because he's "hot"? Because it's what? You're crazy fandom getting in the way? Grow up, that's not what a real villain is. Kefka got his job done right, he's not a mama's boy, he isn't overused, and a lot of material in FF7 is from this game if you haven't noticed.
I love FF and I really love this piece of music and love to read up one what people think about the piece. But every freaking time I come to a dancing mad video, instead of witty comments about how amazing this track is I see "DERP! SEPHIROTH'S A MOMMA'S BOY! HAH DERP I LOVE COMPARING TWO DIFF VILLAINS LIKE EVERYONE ELSE DOES TO MAKE MEH LOOK KEWL!"
For goodness sakesI know its his theme but talk about the music more than the clown himself for once people. Wouldn't kill ya.
It all depended on personal preference. If you like a loud, brazen maniac with pure evil and wicked One liners, Kefka's your character of choice. If you like the cold, collected puppetteer who plays with his foes hearts, Here comes sephiroth ready to make your day.
I'm a typical Final Fantasy VI fanboy, Kefka is better than Sephiroth because I prefer VI over VII. I also like to spend my time going on as many Kefka related videos as I can stating my opinion on which villian I think is better.
But being serious,l this is awesome, the guys who do songs for OCRemix are quite talented people.
Kefka: A great villain whose greatest atrocity may be his sense of fashion. He's brainwashed innocents, poisoned kingdoms, wiped out nearly all the Espers, gained control of the Warring Triad, betrayed his Empire, orphaned children, and gave the world the equivalent of a botched face-lift. Kefka did more than destroy. He made destruction glorious. And unlike most villains, Kefka enjoyed the satisfaction of having obtained and used his power for over a year before being defeated.
Sephiroth: While definitely better-dressed than The Clown, Sephiroth's is hardly original in scheming. Kefka became a god and tried to kill everyone, and Sephiroth tried to kill everyone in order to become a god. He even pulled a reverse-Zande and sought vengeance when he found out he wasn't human.
He has the most detailed history of the FF villains, and at times you actually feel sorry for him. He's a hero who becomes a villain, and not overnight.
@N3bu14Gr4y he actually did become evil overnight which is totally unbelievable considering he was at first presented as someone with a cool head and someone who is not emotionally weak.
Time to end the "Who's the best villain" argument.
Garland: became Chaos through an ontological paradox. When the Light Warriors defeated him, it was as if he never existed. Thus, the Light Warriors lived out their lives unsung and unemployed. Rather pitiful for the villain and the heroes.
Mateus: Became the rulers of Hell AND Heaven, and destroyed nearly every city with his cyclone. The heroes who slayed him may very well have trapped themselves in Hell. Pretty brutal villain.
Zande: By far the whiniest villain. He didn't seek revenge because of MagiTek or Mako experimentation on him, or because he was denied immortality. He wanted revenge because he was given humanity. LAME!
Cloud of Darkness: Possibly the most one-dimensional villain of the bunch. She exists solely to return the world to the Void whenever there is too much light or darkness. However, she gets props for actually killing the heroes. (Curse you, Dorga and Unne!)
Golbez: "Cecil...I am your brother." Cecil: "No... That's not true!... THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE!" That is all.
Zemus: Possibly the most successful villain, as he massacred billions of individuals by throwing their frozen souls into volc--sorry, wrong person. Zemus has an entire moon as his vessel. Being an alien, it's likely he's destroyed other worlds in the past. Brownie points to him for his Zeromus form looking like something out of Lovecraft.
Exdeath: Almost as narrow-minded as Cloud of Darkness, and even more obsessed with the Void. He took huge chunks out of the planet and sent them into the Void, but was thwarted from erasing everything by Bartz and company. To quote Kefka's Dissidia line, "Destruction without Death? Bo-ring!"
An honorable mention goes to the necromancer Enuo. While he didn't destroy the world, his actions lead to it being split in two. Breaking worlds in two is badass, right? RIGHT?
Now now, fanboys - Kefka, Sephiroth, and the rest are all aweome. And they all screwed up spectacularly, which is what makes them such excellent characters.
Kefka wanted power. He got it. And he found out that power is meaningless. Cue the omnicidal clown-laugh of rage and despair.
Sephiroth wanted godhood... and almost got it. He was a master puppeteer. He just couldn't quite get one of his puppets right. Cue Omnislash.
@tetrisclock absolutely. ff7 fails to uphold the epic, dramatic tone of ff6. if cloud and gang hadn't tried to stop sephiroth, then you're right; he would've won, but that would mean the game was over, since the entire plot is centered around sephiroth. kefka, on the other hand, wasn't actually considered the main antagonist until the floating island scenario, where he killed gestahl and destroyed the entire world.
@MegidramonX i get where you're coming from, but you have to realize something: sephiroth WANTED to destroy the world, but he didn't get that far. Kefka wanted to destroy everything...and did. not only that, but he made a tower from the REMAINS OF THE WORLD HE DESTROYED. flag me if you will, but sephiroth has NOTHING on kefka. ff7 is just overrated because of the drooling fanboys out there that orgasmed when it hit shelves as the first 3D ff game.
are we STILL debating who's the better villain? dude, kefka all the freakin way! sephiroth's a little momma's boy, whereas kefka...he...he probably KILLED his own mother! kefka wins hands down! there IS no debate!
Also if Cloud and friends hadn't even lifted a finger against Sephiroth, the game would have ended the same way.
Sephiroth succeeded in calling down the meteor, but it was destroyed by mother earth or whatever. That means that Cloud could have died at anytime along his path, and Sephiroth would still have been defeated.
Kefka is the Best of all villians in FF series, 'couse he was the only one who actually commit he's goal: He Destroyed the World and Became a God in the process.
Now now, fanboys - Kefka, Sephiroth, and the rest are all aweome. And they all screwed up spectacularly, which is what makes them such excellent characters.
Kefka wanted power. He got it. And he found out that power is meaningless. Cue the omnicidal clown-laugh of rage and despair.
Sephiroth wanted godhood... and almost got it. He was a master puppeteer. He just couldn't quite get one of his puppets right. Cue Omnislash.
@Shmook1 Sad thing is, about the time Advent Children came out, I know I read one of the people who worked on FF VII said that Sephiroth was actually the one in control during the events of the game, not Jenova. Bull. Shit. Sephiroth, though bad ass and all, was a puppet.
@OrcishSlacker there is that info, I am aware of it, that Sephiroth was controlling the Jenova courpse, but the fact is, that there are so many Jenova cells in Sephiroth that he was doing what Jenova wanted anyway, and he was fused with Jenova's head, and so possibly the will/plan was its. (p.s.: I call Jenova an it cause it's an alien and Aries's/Arieth's mom called Jenova it/he in the computer version(so I've read))
@OrcishSlacker there is that info, I am aware of it, that Sephiroth was controlling the Jenova courpse, but the fact is, that there are so many Jenova cells in Sephiroth that he was doing what Jenova wanted anyway, and he was fused with Jenova's head, and so possibly the will/plan was its. (p.s.: I call Jenova an it cause it's an alien and Aries's/Arieth's mom called Jenova it/he in the computer version(so I've read))
@OrcishSlacker I am aware of that statement, that Sephiroth was controlling the Jenova courpse, but the fact is, that there are so many Jenova cells in Sephiroth that he was doing what Jenova wanted anyway, and he was fused with Jenova's head, and so possibly the will/plan was its. (p.s.: I call Jenova an it cause it's an alien and Aries's/Arieth's mom called Jenova it/he in the computer version(so I've read))
@Asheco I'd like to point out the so called Magic God died. The Soldier lives forever inside the planet. And the so called destroyed world still exist hmmm but how can that be if it was "destroyed"? Kefka fanboys love to exagerrate to compensate for what little they know about the things they love. As far as I'm concerned their goals don't compare yet the Kefka fanboys keep making little useless "destroyed" points towards sephiroth. When they in fact fail to know what destroy means.
@Xandersama The idea of a "Destroyed" World doesn't means that the Planet litterally xplodes. It only represent the human idea of an End of times.. Like the Armageddon, we All understand the End of the World as the Destruction of Human life as we know it. Kefka DID destroy the world... Anyway, this is the best villan orchestaded music ever.. [and somehow, the begining reminds me of One Winged Angel.. funny]
@Xandersama Who cares if he lives forever? That doesn't make him a more capabale or interesting villain. You know, he didn't literally destroy the planet. They meaned he destroyed the surface, civilization ect. Destroyed doesn't have to mean he blew up the planet. You took it too literally. They don't exaggerate. I like Sephiroth but I personally think he's way overrated. He's not that great. Kefka was the best in my opinion. He also had a sense of humor which many FF villains lack.
@Xandersama Their goals do compare. The reason the arguments can be made is because of how similar the two games are. Sure, there are key differences, but there is a lot about VII that was taken from VI. Kefka wanted to become a god, and by doing so he ruled the world. Sephiroth wanted to become a god and decided that destroying the world was the path to do so. There are differences in their goals, but they are close to being the same thing.
@Asheco The world was technically not destroyed. It still remained standing.
By your logic it makes KUJA a better villain than Kefka because he DID destroy a world!
And Kefka is did; Sephiroth can return from death.
Then again both villains are awesome in their own right. This whole debated started simply because FF 7 was more successful than FF 6: a reason that sparked ridiculous anger amongst fan boys.
@shenloken2 Finally, someone who speaks the truth of things. I give you praise for being one of the few people who can actually use FACTS to compare characters instead of just typing in all caps and throwing insults at people in order to get your point(s) across, while also acting unbiased about the issue at hand. If only there were more people like you around, then there wouldn't be so much stupidity in the FF community (seriously).
@Asheco I'd say the fact that he got that much of an advantage and then still failed is more a testament to the power of a sneak attack and his own incompetence after the fact. Sephiroth was guilty of hubris, and the assumption that he was unstoppable. That the writers chose a moment just prior to the fan-girl advent for him to be undone by the protagonist and his unlikely band is telling: Had he ascended, Cloud and company would be well and truly fucked, but Kefka lost as a god. Sephiroth>Kefka
@ArtificiusTheFirst See, your problem is staking who is better on how easily each lost, not what each accomplished before they lost. Sephiroth killed a flower girl. Kefka wiped out civilization and brought magic itself to an ultimate end, the near equivalent of destroying Heaven in the FF universe.
@OverlordLS So, not even a little consideration for style points? In the Final Fantasy universes, that's all that matters! Sephiroth was resurrected by the fan girls with sequels because he makes 'em moist, what with his silvery, flowing hair and a giant phallic symbol he deflowers women with. Kefka remains dead and ignored because no one likes a schizophrenic clown except for basement-dwellers. You have to at least admit that on the meta scale, Sephiroth beats Kefka. Yes, no?
@ArtificiusTheFirst Heh, I'll give him that! Kefka's only good with the ladies if he brainwashes them. We all know Terra was his whore when she was in the service of the Empire. :P
In the end, as a man Sephiroth is far more successful. But Kefka's got him beat in everything else, and probably doesn't care about women anyways. He probably lasered them all, at any rate.
@Asheco Yes... And other BIG diferent is: Sephiroth destroys the solar system and die before become a god, because if it had been transformed, he will became inmortal.
@Asheco I love both and you're right. However Kefka for most of the game was non-treating, expect if he had people under his command. While Sephiroth, is treating and didn't need anyone by his side.
Does the Cult of Kefka sing this? XD
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Hey everyone. Just wanted to let you all know that the 1st demo of Cantata For Dancing IV is up. Please go to OCRemix in the workshop section to hear it or go to Oren Productions and listen. Let me know what you all think.
derako1980 1 month ago in playlist Dancing Mad, Derek Oren and Jeremy Robson
I played the first part at the same time as this... Amazing.
jioplip 1 month ago
1:52 I just imagine Kefka killing millions to this part.
MayorAmazing 4 months ago
Everybody... Seriously, Kefka is probably the greatest villain in Final Fantasy history. He was the FIRST and ONLY one to ever want and then become a god. He also does it without any real motivation or help from some demon or other powerful entity. And, before I stop, he does way more EVIL things than Sephiroth. Sephiroth may be okay, but Kefka kicks so much more ass...
AwsmChimera 5 months ago
@AwsmChimera Um... Garland became Chaos, God of Discord in Final Fantasy I, and Mateus Palamecia became both Emperor of Hell (Devil) and Emperor of Heaven (God) after his original mortal form was killed. So... he actually wanted and became a god before Kefka did.
BlazeIgnitus 3 months ago
@BlazeIgnitus Soul of Rebirth was made long after ff6.
krat0s9001 2 months ago
@krat0s9001 Yeah, but his point is still valid. Kefka was not the "first and only" to want and become a God. And tbh I hate when people compare him to Sephiroth. They're not even similar. It's like comparing Cloud and Zidane, or Shadow and Snow.
skullkid325 2 months ago 2
@skullkid325 yes he was, who compares snow to shadow?
krat0s9001 2 months ago
@krat0s9001 That's my point, you wouldn't do it lol And no he wasn't, I won't bother listing others since if you look not far below blaze has actually already said it himself. There are 5 final fantasy games before VI and they all follow a pretty similar trend - the main villain wanting to more or less become a God, or a being with unrivaled power. I'm not sure about III mind you, I haven't managed to get my hands on the original III yet and I've not managed to get into the DS version yet.
skullkid325 2 months ago
From 3:37 it reminds me a lot of toccata and fugue from Bach o.o
dianateabag 5 months ago
@dianateabag I believe it is a mockery of it since that part is played in his third tear which represents his narcissism, selfishness, and his... i supposed poetic mind just like the third tear looks very much like... I forgot but its a very famous greek or roman sculpture
JuanDVene 4 months ago
@JuanDVene The Pieta. A very famous (and often immitated) sculpture by Michelangelo.
MrClickity 3 months ago
This is truly godly.
Blues2Dark 5 months ago
3:37-6:17 WOW, how I'd like to listen with the organ and the chores of Regensburg's Dom, in Germany!!
luchosab1 5 months ago
I wanted to officially announce that Jeremy and I are at work on the fourth installment of the Cantata For Dancing. We are both very excited to be working with each other once again and are also excited about this amazing arrangement. At 12+ minutes it will be the longest of the movements. It will also be the highest quality as I've completely upgraded my DAW's and also upgraded to a 64 bit host. We'll keep you posted as we progress.
Thanks again for all your support!
-Derek-
derako1980 5 months ago in playlist Dancing Mad, Derek Oren and Jeremy Robson
Whoa... You, Sir, have blown my mind...
AwsmChimera 5 months ago
only a truly god can put his will over every creature
MegaSamuraizero 6 months ago
Please tell me that picture of Kefka is moving slightly... Either that or I'm hallucinating and should go to sleep... But this song is a masterpiece...
Churros007 6 months ago
And you FFVII/Advent Lovers. Angels don't kill, even with one wing. An Angel is not an angel with both wings, so calling him an angel is just nonsense.
Noke0 6 months ago
@Noke0 actually Angels do kill. i mean, look at the Devil, he's an angel who was cast out of heaven. and now what does he do? Steal, Kill, and Destroy. but i agree that calling him an Angel is absolute nonsense.
Android2751 6 months ago
Let's just all remember who became a god first :D
Noke0 6 months ago
I'm feelin these remixes as much as I dislike Kefka, most idiotic and suicidal boss ever, and they wasted such awesome music on him.
zasalamel2011 6 months ago
What I like most is that Kefka knew he wasn't strong enough to act on his Chaotic Evil intentions, so he used backstabbing Neutral Evil tactics, once ascending to god hood becoming Chaotic.
MrScorn 6 months ago
If there is no reasoning, what's left?
PaxtheDreamer 7 months ago
dissidia sucks
Skoomaheadmrmush 7 months ago
@Skoomaheadmrmush I only played if for Kefka. At least in that game he still had a strange personality
Dantarn 7 months ago
@Dantarn but he wasn't nearly as cool as he was in FFVI
Skoomaheadmrmush 7 months ago
Wisdom confers power, power confers right. Simply, if you are able to do something, because of your cunning, cleverness, or intelligence, then it is your right to do that that thing or rule over the bested person. For most that means we place ourselves on top of some small set of achievements. For Kefka, it meant he got to become a God. A simpler more immutable statement of his divine right as ruler of all things, I do not know of
AlaricSinclair 7 months ago 18
@AlaricSinclair Wisdom, however, is not the same as cunning, cleverness or intelligence. A person can be those three other things and yet lack wisdom. Wisdom is a deep understanding and realization of people, things, events or situations, resulting in the ability to choose or act or inspire to consistently produce the optimum results with a minimum of time, energy or thought. Kefka doesn't really understand people. He knows how to manipulate them, but he doesn't understand them.
BlazeIgnitus 4 months ago 3
@BlazeIgnitus Or perhaps to add to the horror of his actions, he DOES understand them, and is precisely why he seeks to destroy them.
OverlordLS 3 months ago
@AlaricSinclair Cool story bro. Needs more wizards.
Ninjadude973 2 weeks ago
Kefka just slapped God in the face, spit on Jesus face, and laughed madly while pointing at Satan's face.
That's how i see his ascending to divinity in FFVI
Truly a remarkable villain, if may say so myself.
Tr3s3ntos 7 months ago
@Tr3s3ntos Too bad neither Satan nor God or Jesus exists in the Final Fantasy Universe.
MrScorn 6 months ago
( 3:20 - 3:35 ) Gave me major goosebumps.
This remix is just so great. I'm sure if Nubuo Uematus listened to this he would think this was awesome as well.
CommodoreGroovy 7 months ago
Kefka>Sephiroth, nuff said
BigGreen204 7 months ago
So beautiful.... =3
florifan12 7 months ago
The fact that there's even debates about who is better (Sephy vs. Kef) means Kefka is, at the very least, up there as far as memorable villains are concerned (Seph had all that FF VII hype and movies for Kekfa's sake, all Kef had was a PSP game appearance that doesn't do him justice and a couple of scenes in a FMV for the PS1.
At least they both have awesome music...
Kefkadet 7 months ago
i like how everyone's fighting about Kefka and Sephiroth, but nobody mentions how Emperor Mateus beat them both to it. And became TWO gods... And he's probably hotter than Sephiroth. Kefka's still awesome.
nightstorm131 8 months ago
@nightstorm131
He has some kind of skull on his dick..... (dissidia)
How is that appealing?
XGiftedGamerX 7 months ago in playlist Epic Songs
If I need quick inspiration for roleplaying a demon I turn this music on quickly and everything begins to flood into place.
draconic33 9 months ago 2
This song is incredible. It just resumes all the evil, perversion and joy for death and destruction in Kefka's mind (in short, what I always have been dreaming of during my high school). It's really epic. I was waiting for a version like this.
luchosab1 9 months ago
Kefka destroyed the planet by the half-way point of the game. Technically, Sephiroth was dead before 7 even began.
SixWingZombi 9 months ago
@SixWingZombi ........BUT THEN HE CAME BACK~! LEIK A GHOSHT!!!! XD But okay. :|
PetrossDelta 9 months ago
this is the only song worth of a exclusive folder in my track list, so many magnificent versions
Isuzusama 9 months ago
Both kefka and sephiroth are cool! Just in entirely diffrent ways.
silvertigrex 10 months ago 29
@silvertigrex Every Final Fantasy villain is bad ass in their own ways in my opinion.
They all had their own ways of causing havoc and grief
strifey07 9 months ago 2
@silvertigrex you must have a crapton of reply commentary... But yeah.
Kefka is a Villain, clear and true.
Sephiroth is a bit more mysterious and confusing, but he's an Antagonist, not a villain.
Both are imposing and dangerous and worthy of being feared, but they truly aren't similar entities...
If you want a comparison point. Look at Hojo. He's the closest thing to a villain you can get in FF7 (other then Shin-ra) and add Dirge of Cerberus in his repertoire and he's well worthy.
Testsubject909 5 months ago
@Testsubject909 Oh yeah, well agreed. I would probably compare Kefka and Hojo way before I would Kefka and Sephiroth.
skullkid325 2 months ago
@silvertigrex do not blaspheme! a mere human with a 6 wings god! please
JKordero 5 months ago
the game clearly says he acended to godhood...lol its just a game bro
silvertigrex 5 months ago
@9100040000 Havoc wing too, unless I'm mistaken.
OcaTrilby 10 months ago
I wanna hear the dondondondondOn DON dondondondon- you know what I mean.
lnfamousDog 10 months ago
@lnfamousDog you're talking about Sephiroth's theme? then why are you here?
GamingIdiot42Neo 10 months ago
@GamingIdiot42Neo I'm talking about dancing mad. *sigh* I'm not that good at describing things.
lnfamousDog 10 months ago
@lnfamousDog oh... sorry, I love FF6 but I don't have dancing mad memorized.
GamingIdiot42Neo 10 months ago
@GamingIdiot42Neo It's all right. I was talking about the part when you fight kefka in his god form.
lnfamousDog 10 months ago
seems a bit too happy almost in quire,but still amazing none the less.
piromaniac9999 10 months ago
@piromaniac9999
Seems more ominous to me. I imagine Kefka acting all "holy" and saying godly phrases.
Imitating and even mocking religion itself, which would totally fit Kefka!
XGiftedGamerX 10 months ago
@XGiftedGamerX what makes this amazing to me is how it represents a holyer than holy figure smashing down upon the world betraying his worshippers.
Remember this:he more subtle during the world of balance before he became a god.
And that being that he wasn't subtle and pretty obvious that he was up to something.
Gestahl thought he could control kefka but he proved to outwit him by getting the best of him and ruling the world.
piromaniac9999 10 months ago
I almost want to dislike videos just to see how many people would post stupid commentsXD
TheJacobLB 10 months ago
Amazing piece of music :D
Feraswondervahnn 10 months ago
The one person who disliked this video was Sephiroth
MrTheDlanor 10 months ago
@MrTheDlanor no it was terra
solidvipersnake 10 months ago
@solidvipersnake no it was both
bustersowrdsmen81 8 months ago
@bustersowrdsmen81 or maybe they were fps fb
solidvipersnake 8 months ago
なんという美しい。素晴らしい出来ですね。「妖精乱舞」第3楽章が一番好きです。
viciousclown4923 10 months ago
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viciousclown4923 10 months ago
OMFG!!! 1:19 !!!! !!!!!!!!!!
musica para trabajar!! y CONQUISTAR! Cuando al final me vuelva loco y conquiste Tierra, esta musica tocara sobre los restos del planeta!! :muahaha:
que maestro, Uematsu!!
citizendin 10 months ago
As Nobuo Uematsu proved, and this music piece demonstrated: there's no reason an orchestra shouldn't have an electric guitar.
GrandSupremeDaddyo 10 months ago 2
I prefer a Mad jester than a Silent Killer
andretatontos 11 months ago 3
Sephiroth didn't want to become a god, he wanted to merge with the planet and fly it around like a space-ship to find the promised land
Safer7Sephiroth 11 months ago
@Safer7Sephiroth Interesting interpretation, but following what is presented in VII (and Advent Children), that's not the case. The Promised Land is a state of mind, an ideal or desire (for the Cetra, it was to be assimilated into the Lifestream and become one with the planet). Sephiroth (like Shin-Ra), thought the Promised Land was the Northern Crater. In that case, Sephiroth had already found it, and just wanted to become a god (maybe another "promise land" desire).
BeingBadAtMaths 2 weeks ago
Although Kefka is my favorite villian, and zeromus/seph/kuja/ulti/etc were pretty decent too, I'd say Garland(ff1, not ff9) is by far the most dangerous villian of all. He fucking TIME-TRAVELED, and then made himself immortal after he got there.
sharkmaster99 11 months ago 2
@sharkmaster99 Pulled off that Xanatos Gambit like nobody's bidness. :)
zsybrant 11 months ago
@sharkmaster99 I think ultimecia made herself in time travel too :P
andretatontos 10 months ago
1:51 - Holy shit. O:
Joaquin602001 11 months ago
The REAL difference between Kefka & Sephiroth is evident! Kefka realize his dream but got destroyed at the end. He did'nt come back like Sephiroth who will always live in the Stream Of Life ;) Sephiroth's best because he can come back from Death!
Anyway! AtmaWeapon (FF8) & Weapon (FF7) are stronger than theses 2 boss!
Weedopia 11 months ago
For me there is one big difference between Kefka and Sephiroth. I love both of them, they are both great villains. However, Kefka accomplished his goal of becoming a god and ruling the world, were as Sephiroth failed in his goal of truly becoming one with the planet. For me, that's the winning factor.
avatartbk 11 months ago
I love how there is a part where this sounds like a religious fanfare, it really captures Kefka`s cruel mocking of religion
vhunter13 1 year ago
I would prefer the world of FF7 over FF6 any day but, you got to admit that villain wise, Kefka was way better then Sephiroth. I'm a big fan of FF7 but other FF7 fans have to get real. Are you liking Seph more because he's "cool" because he's "hot"? Because it's what? You're crazy fandom getting in the way? Grow up, that's not what a real villain is. Kefka got his job done right, he's not a mama's boy, he isn't overused, and a lot of material in FF7 is from this game if you haven't noticed.
dichotomy14138 1 year ago
I love FF and I really love this piece of music and love to read up one what people think about the piece. But every freaking time I come to a dancing mad video, instead of witty comments about how amazing this track is I see "DERP! SEPHIROTH'S A MOMMA'S BOY! HAH DERP I LOVE COMPARING TWO DIFF VILLAINS LIKE EVERYONE ELSE DOES TO MAKE MEH LOOK KEWL!"
For goodness sakesI know its his theme but talk about the music more than the clown himself for once people. Wouldn't kill ya.
Xandersama 1 year ago
but of course I'm free for debating sessions. you'll never know what you'll learn through those so if you want to debate, give me a subject.
solidsnakethornburg 1 year ago
kefka for president!!!
adarkerlink 1 year ago 29
@adarkerlink but in a country without nuclear weapons! :)
TheObermotz1 1 year ago
@adarkerlink he want YOU to take off the sand in is boots XD
number999999999 1 year ago
@number999999999
oWo sure lord Kefka! *cleans his boots*
adarkerlink 1 year ago
I do like his character, but Sephiroth wasn't even the best villain in FFVII. Jenova and Hojo were both far more interesting, in my opinion.
ScrabbitTheRabbit 1 year ago 2
It all depended on personal preference. If you like a loud, brazen maniac with pure evil and wicked One liners, Kefka's your character of choice. If you like the cold, collected puppetteer who plays with his foes hearts, Here comes sephiroth ready to make your day.
DoinkTonberry 1 year ago
I'm a typical Final Fantasy VI fanboy, Kefka is better than Sephiroth because I prefer VI over VII. I also like to spend my time going on as many Kefka related videos as I can stating my opinion on which villian I think is better.
But being serious,l this is awesome, the guys who do songs for OCRemix are quite talented people.
BubonicCraig 1 year ago
I like Golbez better than Kefka and Sephiroth.
:)
SanasSweetMode 1 year ago
@SanasSweetMode ya gotta admit golbez as a cockroach even ith only a hand existing h still lived on XD
number999999999 1 year ago
@SanasSweetMode Golbez is a pretty awesome villain, but the game kinda falls apart for me when you learn that he's been brainwashed.
avatartbk 11 months ago
what I dislike in this version is that they turn the obvious organ solo in aviolin solo.
Great choirs though...
cptOrgazmo 1 year ago
1:55 Christmas!
normaleruser4 1 year ago
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normaleruser4 1 year ago
arent there originally only 2 parts to this song? whats the dif with the extra part?
strife725 1 year ago
@strife725 No, there are 4 parts originally. All 4 of them are represented in the 3 clips.
ReuWil 1 year ago
@ReuWil hm...well iv always considered the part with the progressive drum beat to be part 2 and everything before that part 1 haha
strife725 1 year ago
*sigh* Oh, Kefka... You wonderfull thing, you...
I think, by far, Kefka is the best villain WHEN IT COMES TO CHARACTER
When it comes to actions, the best is Kuja... (He is THE manipulative bastard of the series)
*Waits for fanboys to flame*
cuquira95 1 year ago
@cuquira95 KEFKA IS FANTASTIC
kuja is pretty fucking sweet my second fav ff villain :P
scatularfortitude 1 year ago 2
@scatularfortitude 1st...?
921144666 1 year ago
@921144666 kefka
scatularfortitude 1 year ago
Six-Winged God. ;)
IheartGardevoir 1 year ago
Put this in a 3d remake of FF6!
mattiathekaiju 1 year ago 2
1:53 onwards - THE EPIC CANNOT BE CONTAINED.
Joaquin602001 1 year ago
Three words... Kefka is Epic!
kefka151 1 year ago
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zalak321 1 year ago
Kefka: A great villain whose greatest atrocity may be his sense of fashion. He's brainwashed innocents, poisoned kingdoms, wiped out nearly all the Espers, gained control of the Warring Triad, betrayed his Empire, orphaned children, and gave the world the equivalent of a botched face-lift. Kefka did more than destroy. He made destruction glorious. And unlike most villains, Kefka enjoyed the satisfaction of having obtained and used his power for over a year before being defeated.
N3bu14Gr4y 1 year ago
Sephiroth: While definitely better-dressed than The Clown, Sephiroth's is hardly original in scheming. Kefka became a god and tried to kill everyone, and Sephiroth tried to kill everyone in order to become a god. He even pulled a reverse-Zande and sought vengeance when he found out he wasn't human.
He has the most detailed history of the FF villains, and at times you actually feel sorry for him. He's a hero who becomes a villain, and not overnight.
N3bu14Gr4y 1 year ago
@N3bu14Gr4y Props to you for doing at all without letting bias shine through. So who's your favorite then?
skullkid325 1 year ago
@skullkid325 That would take away the fun of his impartial analysis.
deadlypudding 1 year ago
@skullkid325 Like deadlypudding said, that would take away the fun. But the video I posted this on MIGHT be an indicator. ; )
N3bu14Gr4y 1 year ago
@N3bu14Gr4y kewl.
steelskin134 1 year ago
@N3bu14Gr4y he actually did become evil overnight which is totally unbelievable considering he was at first presented as someone with a cool head and someone who is not emotionally weak.
Allistar123 1 year ago
Time to end the "Who's the best villain" argument.
Garland: became Chaos through an ontological paradox. When the Light Warriors defeated him, it was as if he never existed. Thus, the Light Warriors lived out their lives unsung and unemployed. Rather pitiful for the villain and the heroes.
Mateus: Became the rulers of Hell AND Heaven, and destroyed nearly every city with his cyclone. The heroes who slayed him may very well have trapped themselves in Hell. Pretty brutal villain.
(cont.)
N3bu14Gr4y 1 year ago
Zande: By far the whiniest villain. He didn't seek revenge because of MagiTek or Mako experimentation on him, or because he was denied immortality. He wanted revenge because he was given humanity. LAME!
Cloud of Darkness: Possibly the most one-dimensional villain of the bunch. She exists solely to return the world to the Void whenever there is too much light or darkness. However, she gets props for actually killing the heroes. (Curse you, Dorga and Unne!)
N3bu14Gr4y 1 year ago
Golbez: "Cecil...I am your brother." Cecil: "No... That's not true!... THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE!" That is all.
Zemus: Possibly the most successful villain, as he massacred billions of individuals by throwing their frozen souls into volc--sorry, wrong person. Zemus has an entire moon as his vessel. Being an alien, it's likely he's destroyed other worlds in the past. Brownie points to him for his Zeromus form looking like something out of Lovecraft.
N3bu14Gr4y 1 year ago
Exdeath: Almost as narrow-minded as Cloud of Darkness, and even more obsessed with the Void. He took huge chunks out of the planet and sent them into the Void, but was thwarted from erasing everything by Bartz and company. To quote Kefka's Dissidia line, "Destruction without Death? Bo-ring!"
An honorable mention goes to the necromancer Enuo. While he didn't destroy the world, his actions lead to it being split in two. Breaking worlds in two is badass, right? RIGHT?
N3bu14Gr4y 1 year ago
Now now, fanboys - Kefka, Sephiroth, and the rest are all aweome. And they all screwed up spectacularly, which is what makes them such excellent characters.
Kefka wanted power. He got it. And he found out that power is meaningless. Cue the omnicidal clown-laugh of rage and despair.
Sephiroth wanted godhood... and almost got it. He was a master puppeteer. He just couldn't quite get one of his puppets right. Cue Omnislash.
Both deserve their place as awesome villains
and both get defeaded...
kasman2 1 year ago
@tetrisclock absolutely. ff7 fails to uphold the epic, dramatic tone of ff6. if cloud and gang hadn't tried to stop sephiroth, then you're right; he would've won, but that would mean the game was over, since the entire plot is centered around sephiroth. kefka, on the other hand, wasn't actually considered the main antagonist until the floating island scenario, where he killed gestahl and destroyed the entire world.
aaooppeerr 1 year ago
@MegidramonX i get where you're coming from, but you have to realize something: sephiroth WANTED to destroy the world, but he didn't get that far. Kefka wanted to destroy everything...and did. not only that, but he made a tower from the REMAINS OF THE WORLD HE DESTROYED. flag me if you will, but sephiroth has NOTHING on kefka. ff7 is just overrated because of the drooling fanboys out there that orgasmed when it hit shelves as the first 3D ff game.
aaooppeerr 1 year ago
what's this kefka vs sephiroth thing? I think it's all based on opinion but it's turning into those Kirk vs Picard arguments lawl
XlordchaosforteX 1 year ago
Kirk ftw, bro.
tetrisclock 1 year ago
This is way too busy...
MrLordlyCalibur 1 year ago
@Atheistenpapst i'll raise the funds!
aaooppeerr 1 year ago
are we STILL debating who's the better villain? dude, kefka all the freakin way! sephiroth's a little momma's boy, whereas kefka...he...he probably KILLED his own mother! kefka wins hands down! there IS no debate!
aaooppeerr 1 year ago
@aaooppeerr How about this: BOTH villains are great in their own way?
Also, the whole "Mama's boy" thing is getting as old as it is inaccurate.
MegidramonX 1 year ago
Both Sephiroth and Kefka tried to destroy the world.
Kefka actually succeeded.
tetrisclock 1 year ago
Also if Cloud and friends hadn't even lifted a finger against Sephiroth, the game would have ended the same way.
Sephiroth succeeded in calling down the meteor, but it was destroyed by mother earth or whatever. That means that Cloud could have died at anytime along his path, and Sephiroth would still have been defeated.
That's not good story-telling if you ask me.
tetrisclock 1 year ago
This so owns the Distant Worlds version. Don't get me wrong, I love DW, but I thought their version was lackluster.
wageboy 1 year ago
final fantasy vi should be remade, but it should be made for a nintendo console, its about time it comes back where it all started
b09h 1 year ago
sephiroth was a momma's boy with 1 wing he'll fly himself in circles....Kefka is an insane badass 6 winged GOD who succeeded in destroying the world.
AaronGir 1 year ago
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Kefka is the Best of all villians in FF series, 'couse he was the only one who actually commit he's goal: He Destroyed the World and Became a God in the process.
Asheco 1 year ago
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Asheco 1 year ago
Now now, fanboys - Kefka, Sephiroth, and the rest are all aweome. And they all screwed up spectacularly, which is what makes them such excellent characters.
Kefka wanted power. He got it. And he found out that power is meaningless. Cue the omnicidal clown-laugh of rage and despair.
Sephiroth wanted godhood... and almost got it. He was a master puppeteer. He just couldn't quite get one of his puppets right. Cue Omnislash.
Both deserve their place as awesome villains.
kasman2 1 year ago 43
@kasman2 Actually, Sephiroth WAS the puppet, and massively missinformed, all Hojo's fault,
Shmook1 1 year ago
@Shmook1 Sad thing is, about the time Advent Children came out, I know I read one of the people who worked on FF VII said that Sephiroth was actually the one in control during the events of the game, not Jenova. Bull. Shit. Sephiroth, though bad ass and all, was a puppet.
OrcishSlacker 1 year ago
@OrcishSlacker there is that info, I am aware of it, that Sephiroth was controlling the Jenova courpse, but the fact is, that there are so many Jenova cells in Sephiroth that he was doing what Jenova wanted anyway, and he was fused with Jenova's head, and so possibly the will/plan was its. (p.s.: I call Jenova an it cause it's an alien and Aries's/Arieth's mom called Jenova it/he in the computer version(so I've read))
Shmook1 1 year ago
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@OrcishSlacker there is that info, I am aware of it, that Sephiroth was controlling the Jenova courpse, but the fact is, that there are so many Jenova cells in Sephiroth that he was doing what Jenova wanted anyway, and he was fused with Jenova's head, and so possibly the will/plan was its. (p.s.: I call Jenova an it cause it's an alien and Aries's/Arieth's mom called Jenova it/he in the computer version(so I've read))
Shmook1 1 year ago
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@OrcishSlacker I am aware of that statement, that Sephiroth was controlling the Jenova courpse, but the fact is, that there are so many Jenova cells in Sephiroth that he was doing what Jenova wanted anyway, and he was fused with Jenova's head, and so possibly the will/plan was its. (p.s.: I call Jenova an it cause it's an alien and Aries's/Arieth's mom called Jenova it/he in the computer version(so I've read))
Shmook1 1 year ago
@kasman2 The BIG difference for all those Sephiroth fan boys is: Kefka DID destroy the world and rise as a God ... the Soldier didn't.
Asheco 1 year ago 38
@Asheco And that Sephiroth was in fact the puppet of his mother...
Seryeth 1 year ago
@Asheco If 2 villians in a row destroyed the world, the games would explode.
shadeslay406 1 year ago
@Asheco Furthemore, while both were crazy, kefka was hilarious, while Sephiroth was an emo.
DarknessIsTheTruth 1 year ago
@Asheco I'd like to point out the so called Magic God died. The Soldier lives forever inside the planet. And the so called destroyed world still exist hmmm but how can that be if it was "destroyed"? Kefka fanboys love to exagerrate to compensate for what little they know about the things they love. As far as I'm concerned their goals don't compare yet the Kefka fanboys keep making little useless "destroyed" points towards sephiroth. When they in fact fail to know what destroy means.
Xandersama 1 year ago
@Xandersama The idea of a "Destroyed" World doesn't means that the Planet litterally xplodes. It only represent the human idea of an End of times.. Like the Armageddon, we All understand the End of the World as the Destruction of Human life as we know it. Kefka DID destroy the world... Anyway, this is the best villan orchestaded music ever.. [and somehow, the begining reminds me of One Winged Angel.. funny]
Asheco 1 year ago
@Xandersama Who cares if he lives forever? That doesn't make him a more capabale or interesting villain. You know, he didn't literally destroy the planet. They meaned he destroyed the surface, civilization ect. Destroyed doesn't have to mean he blew up the planet. You took it too literally. They don't exaggerate. I like Sephiroth but I personally think he's way overrated. He's not that great. Kefka was the best in my opinion. He also had a sense of humor which many FF villains lack.
Yabuturtle 1 year ago
@Xandersama Their goals do compare. The reason the arguments can be made is because of how similar the two games are. Sure, there are key differences, but there is a lot about VII that was taken from VI. Kefka wanted to become a god, and by doing so he ruled the world. Sephiroth wanted to become a god and decided that destroying the world was the path to do so. There are differences in their goals, but they are close to being the same thing.
avatartbk 11 months ago
@Asheco The world was technically not destroyed. It still remained standing.
By your logic it makes KUJA a better villain than Kefka because he DID destroy a world!
And Kefka is did; Sephiroth can return from death.
Then again both villains are awesome in their own right. This whole debated started simply because FF 7 was more successful than FF 6: a reason that sparked ridiculous anger amongst fan boys.
shenloken2 10 months ago 2
@shenloken2 Finally, someone who speaks the truth of things. I give you praise for being one of the few people who can actually use FACTS to compare characters instead of just typing in all caps and throwing insults at people in order to get your point(s) across, while also acting unbiased about the issue at hand. If only there were more people like you around, then there wouldn't be so much stupidity in the FF community (seriously).
Genesjss 10 months ago
@Genesjss
Or in the Sonic fanbase....
*Sigh*
XGiftedGamerX 10 months ago
@XGiftedGamerX Yup...
Genesjss 10 months ago
@Asheco
Blasting a huge hole into the planet should still count
DrMlieko 10 months ago
@Asheco
- that and sephiroth was a suicide bomber...
MasterHypnose 10 months ago
@MasterHypnose Nah, Kuja. now he was a suicide bomber. :P
relentlessgod 9 months ago
@Asheco waaaaaaaaait, then how do you win?
PetrossDelta 9 months ago
@PetrossDelta You face Kefka after the world has ended. Kefka becoming a god is only the halfway part of VI.
avatartbk 8 months ago
@avatartbk oooooOOOOOOOOOH! I get it now. :P
PetrossDelta 8 months ago
@Asheco I'd say the fact that he got that much of an advantage and then still failed is more a testament to the power of a sneak attack and his own incompetence after the fact. Sephiroth was guilty of hubris, and the assumption that he was unstoppable. That the writers chose a moment just prior to the fan-girl advent for him to be undone by the protagonist and his unlikely band is telling: Had he ascended, Cloud and company would be well and truly fucked, but Kefka lost as a god. Sephiroth>Kefka
ArtificiusTheFirst 8 months ago
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OverlordLS 8 months ago
@ArtificiusTheFirst See, your problem is staking who is better on how easily each lost, not what each accomplished before they lost. Sephiroth killed a flower girl. Kefka wiped out civilization and brought magic itself to an ultimate end, the near equivalent of destroying Heaven in the FF universe.
OverlordLS 8 months ago
@OverlordLS So, not even a little consideration for style points? In the Final Fantasy universes, that's all that matters! Sephiroth was resurrected by the fan girls with sequels because he makes 'em moist, what with his silvery, flowing hair and a giant phallic symbol he deflowers women with. Kefka remains dead and ignored because no one likes a schizophrenic clown except for basement-dwellers. You have to at least admit that on the meta scale, Sephiroth beats Kefka. Yes, no?
ArtificiusTheFirst 8 months ago
@ArtificiusTheFirst Heh, I'll give him that! Kefka's only good with the ladies if he brainwashes them. We all know Terra was his whore when she was in the service of the Empire. :P
In the end, as a man Sephiroth is far more successful. But Kefka's got him beat in everything else, and probably doesn't care about women anyways. He probably lasered them all, at any rate.
OverlordLS 8 months ago
@Asheco Yes... And other BIG diferent is: Sephiroth destroys the solar system and die before become a god, because if it had been transformed, he will became inmortal.
But... I prefer Kefka, xD
ElCanonCosmo 8 months ago
@Asheco I love both and you're right. However Kefka for most of the game was non-treating, expect if he had people under his command. While Sephiroth, is treating and didn't need anyone by his side.
Zeno111195 8 months ago
@Asheco Because the people fighting Kefka were pussies.
Doodorz 8 months ago
@Asheco The BIG difference for all you kefka die-hard fans is: pretty much everyone hates clowns.
Despite that, he's still pretty awesome =P cool music too, although nowhere near my personal favorites.
(feral) CHAOS FTW!!!
balrog0444 7 months ago 2