@martin07259 thanks so much, i've been trying it but because I'm a beginner I didn't know how not to break my head against the floor but with that tip now I can hold it for a few seconds
that's very funny. I can hold the frog stand for over 1 minute, but for the tuck planche, I have only 3-4 secs at best. Though my arms can hold me, I can't hold my legs in the tucked position for long :(
and after the 10X3, would it be for example 8x4 or 6x5 or something? or the 10 sets per day is good for longer holds too? i'm just asking your opinion about it
Hmm, good question. Yeah you could progress like that. I used to do that for my regular training for the planche.
With GTG (grease the groove) the main thing to keep in mind is that it must be frequent. So, I reckon, anything between 5 - 10 sets a day is frequent enough.
If you feel strong enough to hold it for longer than 3 secs than I don't see a problem with that.
I mean, you can still stick to your other longer sessions just as long as it doesn't include the same exercise as the one you're using for GTG.
I reckon it's a good way to get used to an exercise before adding it into a longer training session. Then when you come across a new exercise yo just repeat the process.
Anyway, you sound like you're on track haha. Good luck :D
At this stage of the progression it is working the arm and shoulder muscles. They have to remain tense to keep yourself upright. It's preparing them for the harder progressions like the tuck planche, straddle planche, and eventually the full planche. By then you'll be using your whole body to maintain the static postion.
I tried it just now though. What I tend to do is I take a short, fast breath through my nose then let the air escape through my mouth naturally. I try to keep it in a rhythm.
I'm not sure if this is the ideal way to breathe but it's what feels natural to me.
Wait... for a frog stand, you put your elbows on your knees? Makes more sense. I'm trying to do one into a handstand, but it hasn't worked for me yet :p
Haha, both ways are fine I think. I started off with my legs on the outside. When I felt comfortable with that I started doing it with them behind the elbows. As you say, it's just a way to increase the difficulty of the exercise.
I think one thing that makes quite a big difference is how far your feet are from your hands in the starting position.
In this video my feet were too far apart from my hands which resulted in me tilting forward too much.
So, if you start with your feet very close to your hands you will not tilt so much when your feet leave the ground. I think this could help with balance and will allow more room to lean forward.
Just play around with different starting positions and see what happens :)
Yeah, at first I think it is alright to keep your arms bent. As you build up strength it becomes easier to straighten out your arms. For me it took about a month of doing the bent arm frog stand before I could do the straight arm variation.
I'm slowly working through the advanced tuck at the moment. It will probably take me another 5 weeks or so to get that down I reckon.
You don't want to go to failure on isometric holds like this. They're too intense once you lose form, so it's the same as if you went past failure doing, say, bench presses. It damages your muscle fibers more than you want, and it screws with the central nervous system connection to the muscle.
good stuff man try to keep the arms as straight as possible because you will build more strength that way. thats more a advanced frogstand? keep it up man.
@martin07259 thanks so much, i've been trying it but because I'm a beginner I didn't know how not to break my head against the floor but with that tip now I can hold it for a few seconds
iLoGiiKzv0 11 months ago
i tip forward - scared of breaking my nose lol. you are good!
gotahc 1 year ago
this trains ur wrist
qiankundanuoyi1 1 year ago
good hold dude!
Marquito76r 1 year ago
man I HAVE TO DO THIS A SCHOOL FOR P.E OR I GET A F watching video so i know how to do them
flypro360 1 year ago
Hey little froggy, where do you get your information from for form and learning to progress from froggy to planche etc?
Lewis1985 2 years ago
@Lewis1985 here you go
dragondoor com/articler/mode3/229/
kalonjikalonji 2 years ago
That's awesome. Get those arms straighter tho! :D
bboyfloss 2 years ago 2
nice man, the guy, sommer says to put your hands right in front of your toes, can u do it like that. It makes it so much harder
nba8340 2 years ago
that's very funny. I can hold the frog stand for over 1 minute, but for the tuck planche, I have only 3-4 secs at best. Though my arms can hold me, I can't hold my legs in the tucked position for long :(
kiwarrior888 2 years ago
I had the same problem.. When I started my tuck planches I could only hold them for 3 -4 secs.
What I did, for starters, was I used a GTG type method to build up my initial strength..
For example, I would do the tuck planche for 3 secs, 5 - 10 times per day, spread throughout the whole day.
After about a week or so my tuck was solid enough to use in a more conventional programme.
bongobear43 2 years ago
thank you, I'll be on it.
and after the 10X3, would it be for example 8x4 or 6x5 or something? or the 10 sets per day is good for longer holds too? i'm just asking your opinion about it
kiwarrior888 2 years ago
Hmm, good question. Yeah you could progress like that. I used to do that for my regular training for the planche.
With GTG (grease the groove) the main thing to keep in mind is that it must be frequent. So, I reckon, anything between 5 - 10 sets a day is frequent enough.
If you feel strong enough to hold it for longer than 3 secs than I don't see a problem with that.
bongobear43 2 years ago
hehe thx again, I train with 5 secs today.
my main problem in my training programme is that I usually train in one long session - obviously GTG is against that, so I'll change my habits :D
kiwarrior888 2 years ago
Not a problem :)
I mean, you can still stick to your other longer sessions just as long as it doesn't include the same exercise as the one you're using for GTG.
I reckon it's a good way to get used to an exercise before adding it into a longer training session. Then when you come across a new exercise yo just repeat the process.
Anyway, you sound like you're on track haha. Good luck :D
bongobear43 2 years ago
this exercise is for what muscle in particular?
haris000000 2 years ago
At this stage of the progression it is working the arm and shoulder muscles. They have to remain tense to keep yourself upright. It's preparing them for the harder progressions like the tuck planche, straddle planche, and eventually the full planche. By then you'll be using your whole body to maintain the static postion.
bongobear43 2 years ago
How do you breathe? I find it hard to breathe calmly while doing this.
Sylar000000 2 years ago
Hey, that's actually a good question.
I've never paid much attention to that.
I tried it just now though. What I tend to do is I take a short, fast breath through my nose then let the air escape through my mouth naturally. I try to keep it in a rhythm.
I'm not sure if this is the ideal way to breathe but it's what feels natural to me.
bongobear43 2 years ago
dude that was really good i going to try that later.
mcdonaldsfries 2 years ago
Wait... for a frog stand, you put your elbows on your knees? Makes more sense. I'm trying to do one into a handstand, but it hasn't worked for me yet :p
SeijiiNakamaru 2 years ago
Wow!!! 44 seconds!!!!
massibest83 2 years ago
Hey great work there!
I am beginning on my front lever and planche as well. Any advice on how to straighten your back in the frog stand position?
orangyorange 2 years ago
I do it with the legs more outside of the arms, I guess you're version is harder (and prolly the correct one)? :o
elegantdouchebag 2 years ago
Haha, both ways are fine I think. I started off with my legs on the outside. When I felt comfortable with that I started doing it with them behind the elbows. As you say, it's just a way to increase the difficulty of the exercise.
bongobear43 2 years ago
Ok! :)
Just found the saying on the top of your profile, what a great line! *memorize*
Combined with the music of this vid I can feeeel the truth behind it. :D
elegantdouchebag 2 years ago
Hey, Good work! I am also new to this and have difficulty leaning forward/getting my legs up in the air.
any tips? I have done some research but all they saying is lean forward.
Thanks a lot
lancelotchua 2 years ago
I think one thing that makes quite a big difference is how far your feet are from your hands in the starting position.
In this video my feet were too far apart from my hands which resulted in me tilting forward too much.
So, if you start with your feet very close to your hands you will not tilt so much when your feet leave the ground. I think this could help with balance and will allow more room to lean forward.
Just play around with different starting positions and see what happens :)
bongobear43 2 years ago
i dunno how to do it straight armed i keep them a ltitle bent like you, nut this is wrong?
ouijaouija 2 years ago
Yeah, at first I think it is alright to keep your arms bent. As you build up strength it becomes easier to straighten out your arms. For me it took about a month of doing the bent arm frog stand before I could do the straight arm variation.
I'm slowly working through the advanced tuck at the moment. It will probably take me another 5 weeks or so to get that down I reckon.
bongobear43 2 years ago
You don't want to go to failure on isometric holds like this. They're too intense once you lose form, so it's the same as if you went past failure doing, say, bench presses. It damages your muscle fibers more than you want, and it screws with the central nervous system connection to the muscle.
mrgfunkyman 2 years ago
Im on the advanced tuck planche.
rodman332 3 years ago
Haha, I did my manna-middle split hold today... I did it for like 20 seconds and was to bored so I just quit. xP
Good work and good luck.
matthewmovement 3 years ago
good stuff man try to keep the arms as straight as possible because you will build more strength that way. thats more a advanced frogstand? keep it up man.
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kane123369 3 years ago
Thanks for the tip. Yeah, I'll work on keeping them straight.
bongobear43 3 years ago