Lot of truth to this for sure. As a director for a TAPS family team out of Canada. I can say that we don't know if they exist at all. I only use such instruments as a point of interest. Never make a claim based on it either. Certain readings may point out extreme sources of EMF in the home in the base reads more for their other symptoms not ghosts. Pics, not a chance.. dust mostly. EVP, under controlled enviro maybe. But TV is TV for sure.
I'm so confused. Why does someone explain how a staged show's methods are not working for something that this certain someone has no valid information about to begin with.
PS: I really enjoy watching Ghost Adventures. It's fun.
although I agree with most of what you say and you cant trust most of what you see on tv I have to ask the question have you yourself been on many investigations? because any seasoned ghost hunter will tell you yes you have to go scientifically about your findings and using the equipment but there are experiences and evidence caught that just can not be explained away by science its ok to be skeptical we are too but people have discovered this and its always a great day to go ghost hunting
Very well put. Some of the shows are fun to watch (ie Ghost Adventures) but the people on them are obviously scientifically illiterate. Best leave the putatively paranormal to trained parapsychologists.
Somebody once wrote something interesting after being accused of being "Close minded"
"So don't focus on buzzword labels like "closed minded" or "true believer". You can be both of those things and still be able to properly analyze evidence and draw a supported conclusion. You can also be guilty of neither fault, and yet be unable to distinguish a well-supported conclusion from mountains of poor evidence."
Good episode of Skeptoid. Perhaps some more people should listen to it.
Hey i saw first you " Science's Worshipper"... no offence.. :p ask science plz why u research no ghosts when they have no property ,, how u came to know about them :P oh scientific method...
This man is not a skeptic, he is a close minded fool. His other videos (organic farming, pacific trash island, etc) show that he does not embrace facts at all, but is actually willing to skew them in order to embrace the commonly perceived "skeptical" view that is held by most skeptics. Being skeptical is fine, but financially preying on skeptics with erroneous opinions poorly disguised as facts, is disgusting.
Come on guys, a skeptic is not a nay-sayer. A skeptic is someone who wants the truth and is willing to change their views based on new evidence. That is true open mind thinking and a fantastic and way of life. I'm sure Brian wears the badge with pride. As do I. PS. Calling someone a "Dick" and other names does NOT valid your arguement, its just poor taste.
He says ghosts do not have any KNOWN detectable properties. How the hell does he know that if its not known? WTF?... Oh well, another skeptic and I understand that. When he wakes up one night and sees a full bodied apparition standing at the foot of his bed, he'll delete this vid. All this proves is HE hasn't had an experience yet....
@patpathegreat You just bit yourself in the ass just as you typed "presumption". I'm sorry to say this my friend but that's a logical falicy. Even if I weren't a skeptic, I'd be more inclined to believe him than you.
Sorry for calling Brian a bad name. I am indeed naughty. But I am indeed a full time researcher who pends an obsessive amount of time attempting to document anomalous activity. This gives me bit a a gripe when people outright deny existance.
Documenting this type of activity is difficult as the subject matter is spontanious and hard to prove, but that doesn't stop me trying. Thankyou Z4RUM4N for pointing out my fault. But Im afraid facts still don't exist as theoreticaly nothing does.
@MrIainlawrence Uh, you're thinking of truths, not facts. Something becomes fact when it's been shown to be accurate through repeat experiments. There are facts. You describing yourself as a 'psychical resrearch investigator' and constantly calling Brian Dunning a dick, makes it pretty sure you aren't a real researcher.
Still I am interested in what the alternate argument is.
I think this guy's right for the most part. Many EVP's can be summed up simply as chamber reverb. But his explanations don't quantify or justify the times when humans are removed from the environment. I want to believe in ghosts, but shows that dumb things down (or toss in psychics) really pee on the question of living space anomalies and the after life.
This is so true. That's why I watch paranormal shows for entertainment and not actually expecting a Scientific Investigation.
Just by setting up, holding and/or using the equipment you run the risk of interfering with it. We don't have equipment yet that can "pick up" a spirit or soul.
Also, they seem to forget that "unexplained does not mean paranormal". Science is still, and will always discover knew things and uses or knowledge about known things.
U must be a skeptic. Hello, spirits take energy, theres actually an energy pump for spirits to "feed" off of. I'm a huge fan of Ghost Adventures(Zak Bagans Lover rite here) and they explain each tool THEY KNOW WAT THEY'RE DOING AND USING
@TheEmoKimiko This guy is a total skeptic. Zak has been scratched by a demon at Bobby Mackey's Music world. Whats his science for THAT? This guy is a skeptic, maybe he should go on a lockdown, then see if his science can protect him from evil entities.
@helloweenskeeper Admitted I haven't a clue who Zak is, but a quick google search quite clearly indicates he does not use the scientific method.
I've done a 'lockdown' once myself as a child (it was isolated albeit we did go into the garden occasionally), absolutely nothing paranormal happened, and yes this was a supposedly haunted house.
Why don't these guys ever go along on ghost hunts and then debunk the data/voices etc. that they capture? The editor of skeptic magazine was on Paranormal Challenge and couldn't explain a child's voice captured live while he was there
some of the equipment i agree with what he is saying..a simple digital recorder does a lot...i have picked up many voices that are unexplainable...i have seen and heard so much through out my life..to know ghost are out here, or spirits...and a digital camera works wonders...anything else is just to much money spent.
@ChadFKNLawrence I agree, his "Scientific" method of debunking the EVP method was, blah blah its staged blah blah. How about being a true scientist and experimenting. This guy is a fraud and a disgrace to true researchers.
Well seeing Ghost has been documented threw out History from all over the world for Thousands of Years,Not just by common people but by Kings,Queens,Presidents,Poor people and Rich people....Even the Bible has stories about visitation from Spirits...So if you don't believe in the Paranormal it really doesn't matter because maybe one day something will happen that might change your mind and you wouldn't be the first skeptic to change his or hers mind about the matter:)
I completely agree with the science part and that these shows are all fake but I really wish you to live a "ghost" experience as its 100% real! And I'm not talking about stupid sounds and just objects moving...
@airgear1977 You might dislike it mate but like it or not there is definitely something happening on another dimension. Let me ask you, what is your religion?
@airgear1977 You might dislike it mate but like it or not there is definitely something happening on another dimension. Let me ask you, what is your religion?
@airgear1977 You might dislike it mate but like it or not there is definitely something happening on another dimension. May I ask what your religion is?
@airgear1977 You might dislike it mate but like it or not there is definitely something happening on another dimension. May I ask what your religion is?
It has been quite evident from exiting show participants, that Ghost Hunters is staged. In fact, at first, they were left to their own devices. But now, they even have a "staging crew" that arrives before the production crew, to "set things up". I am so glad that someone has finally pointed out the miss-use of the instruments on that show. I used an IR thermometer for years doing Heat and Air work, and the beam simply registers the temp of a surface...NOT open air. Ghost hunters is bunk!
@tristbjorn the soul.... the item of life that makes you who you are. Im not talking about the heart or the brain or in the human body but the item that makes you have life after death
@CafecitoConLeche Oh so I guess you know how these shows are made and produced? I myself am actually making the first only full ghost hunting channel. You need to not sit back and kick up your feet and instead go out and try it before pretending you know what your talking about. Give me 100% flawless proof that god is fake and then you can prove that this is as well.
"Give me 100% flawless proof that god is fake and then you can prove that this is as well." You got me there, didnt think about it, I guess you are absolutely right, since is impossible to prove a negative ghosts are probably real.
Instead of going ghost hunting, why dont you better try to get to the end of the rainbow and get the pot of gold, because, you know; if you cant prove god doesnt exists then the gold may be there!
Theory generates testable predictions that can be consistently observed because they obey physical laws. All human senses and every single instruments we invented can only possibly interact with physical universe. Ghosts are by definition non physical. Therefore, there is no experiments that can be done about ghosts. The ghost hunting shows have no working theory about ghosts; they don't even work in controlled environment. They are just their to entertain gullible audience.
suck a cock brian dunning,get a fucking life and a real fucking job and quit talking shit.look at what you do, your standing in front of a green screen putting google photos behind yourself, and making a shitty 3 minute video, so go fuck yourself sideways,
@masonkaynegoforth dude, calm down!!! This guy is much smarter than many, many people on the internet. He's telling the complete truth. stop trying to act like your smarter than anyone else.
@masonkaynegoforth whoa so much hostility for no reason. why in the world are you insulting a guy who is doing something so nice and necessary? and in such a childish manner too...i'm sure brian will take your statement all the more seriously for it!
Oh really?? Do you think so? Well, I certainly will think about it! Cause my life definately depends on what some strange moron behind a screen with a sad life thinks about me. But the thing is how sad you have to be to attack people with their lack of education, when in fact you don't know anything about them. I don't need to prove anything to you, because I'm proud of myself and my amount of knowledge ,enough to realize that talking to you is quite pointless. Good luck with your miserable life
@riplox1986: It's ok to be skeptic until you experience something for yourself. I think "ghosthunting" would be more respectable among the general public if it would be referred to as "paranormal or spirit" investigating. Ghosthunting sounds too negative and childish which makes alot of people want to ignore it.
TAPS and other ghost hunters confuse correlation with causation. They associate ghosts with intense EMF fields without really knowing if ghosts cause them. Ghost hunters start with the conclusion "ghosts exist" then try to prove it which is NOT science. Science looks for evidence, then uses the evidence to shape a conclusion. You need to be able to collect evidence objectively, and realize that you might be wrong. A real scientist can learn that he is wrong and be okay with it.
@puppyloveforu I would say it's ok to be a sceptic ESPECIALLY when you experience something for yourself. Unless you subscribe to the arrogant "I can't explain it, so it MUST be a ghost!" line.
Even though he's right about non contact thermometers note being able to detect cold spots he fails to discredit anything about the use of ambient thermometers which DO NOT read surface temperature. Cold spots have been a consisted documented characteristic in haunted locations by parapsychologists such as Loyd Auerbach,
what an EGO this man has??? LOL .... THE TRUTH IS..... like you know everything the best hahahaah....please scientist leave your jobs and put there this guy instead, cause he's going to save our world!!! Cause the TRUTH IS this guy revealed all the secrets we've been questioning the whole life...GET OUT man hahahahahhaah Even though I don't trust these ghosthunters either still you'r too much for me... and i still believe they inFACT!!! DO exist...WRONG??? inFACT RIGHT. :-DD
Not everything in this video is accurate information. As far as EMF meters are concerned the Trifield Natural Meter description states when set to SUM setting" Human beings and animals usually emit an electric field which is easily detectable using the Natural EM Meter. In fact, the meter can be used as a motion-activated intruder alarm. It is so sensitive that it can detect the presence of a person through a wall. its sensitivity is of interest to researchers in the field of parapsychology. "
Im a ghost hunter and ive got a few things on my night cam, but i do agree with this video and what its saying about ghost hunting shows like taps which have been shown up to be fake drama. course they are, its all about viewers and i dont believe a word they say,, but that doesnt mean the little man (like me) wondering about haunted places doing it quietly with no fame involved isnt as real as it gets. we have to use the tools available and ive seen too much evidence and know spirit is real...
@strich23 the only part they act on, is the reveal! You can tell, because in TAPS Jason, and Brian, sometimes Steve are HORRRIBLE actors. but, I love the show. They don't really use that stuff, they mostly only use EVP instruments, and the EMF detector. When the claims are like when people see shadows, that's when they use the Inferred Camera,
Sorry but your argument doesn't disprove any thing. Through out history people had to use instruments or objects to get different results for purposes not intended for its original use. I.E a bird to detecte gas a key and kite to conduct electricity. But those tools can put them on the right track
I am a paranormal investigator and I do use an EMF detector, night vision cameras and voice recorders. I will stand up and say that paranormal investigating is NOT an exact science. We have to go with what has worked for some and use theory for most. My group "First Person Ghost Hunters" just did an investigation last night, we all clearly heard a voice ask "are you laughing at me" yet our voice recorders did not pick it up. We are dealing with the unknown and doing what we can.
@Banchy1970 yeah right if these ghosts are really humans shouldnt have to go hunting to find them. why would ghosts be more active at night!? its the time we naturally fear from childhood so its no surprise our imagination can go a lil wild.
@117cam I have asked myself the same question about why do we look for ghost at night. I have heard many stories of paranormal activity happening during the day however we paranormal investigators always hunt at night? You bring up a good point and I think I will have our team do a daytime investigation. I will post a video of the outcome. I truely believe in ghost and spirits and I have this investigation team to try and prove they are among us.
@117cam I'm not judging you, your belief in nothing is your right. Just making a coralation to the disbelief in God to not believeing in ghost. Why would you believe in ghost, if you don't believe in an after life then there would be no ghost. So at the most we can agree to disagree.
but yet i disagree with that lol why would you need an afterlife in order to have a ghost? dont bother answering there is no solid fact u can give to prove an afterlife... ghosts (providing they're possible) may just be a natural phenomenon (some how???) lol
@117cam my thought on ghost and after life is if we have no soul or spirit then there is nothing to release (ghost or spirt) ghosts (providing they're possible) may just be a natural phenomenon (some how???) This is a possibility, I don't discount anything, thats why I do what I do.
What I have seen here is an argument that there is no proof these instruments work in detecting ghost or spirits. On the flip side of that, there is no proof that those instruments do not work. If you don't believe in the after life there is no amount of proof that can be presented.
@Banchy1970 The burden of proof is on the person making the claim. I can claim that my lucky pen puts king cobras to sleep, and indeed there isn't any proof that it doesn't. But before walking into a cobra pit, you'd probably want some proof. My pen may very well work, but without proof you have no reason to believe me.
If ghost hunters say that they are detecting ghosts, they need to have some evidence to back them up.
You sir need to try ghost hunting in a place that really is haunted using these things that "don't work" and see if you can get any evidence... everyone is entitled to an opinion but before you judge something you should least try it out first you are right about the thermal thing though that's why they use an ambient sensor now so this way they are testing the air temp and not the wall temp
Did you even watch the video? He doesn't claim ghosts don't exist. He says nobody has come up with a valid scientific test that verifies ghosts' existence.
Hmmm. I think he should re-review some of his facts. The show he kept showing in the background TAPS (I hope he wasn't always referring to them) has already had a member come out in the open and admit they use fishing line in some of their videos. Not all their evidence is fake, but a handful of it is. There are things in the world that no one can explain, and I suppose until someone experiences something, they will never understand.
"There are things in the world that no one can explain, and I suppose until someone experiences something, they will never understand."
This assumes that personal experience is the ultimate evidence for the existence of something, when in actual fact, people can be and often are mistaken. That's why we need science in the first place. People's subjective experience is coloured and interpreted by their biases and presuppositions.
Following this guys over simplistic rationals are boreing. I preffer a more complex way of looking at the universe. True ghost hunting TV shows like drama, but still the Universe is just to complex to follow this guys simple-minded talk.
@GrowingTreeAz Everyone knows there's things we don't understand. But jumping to conclusions and assuming ghosts is not good. Even worse is believing something simply because reality is too boring.
@ltearthworm : Beleving in a complex universe does not indicate in just beleveing in ghosts. It is an outlook that there is much out there we just dont know about. Being narrow minded like this guy is indeed boreing!
"Being narrow minded like this guy is indeed boreing!"
Requiring objective evidecne before believing something is not narrow-minded. He said himself that maybe one day ghosts will be found to exist. Well, what about you? Is there any evidence that would convince you that ghosts don't exist? Be open-minded now. That is, open to the possibility that ghosts don't exist.
@smaakjeks : 99.99% of the Ghost videos posted on youtube are faked. The contemporay concepts of ghosts probably are not even real. However, the universe is muliti-demensional thus "Paranrmal" in all porbability is real and does exsists. I can reffer you to some paranormal vides that have an enhanced probability of not being faked.
Wow, people certainly are touchy when their beliefs in the paranormal are called into question. Especially the gentleman below who so eloquently suggested that Mr. Dunning, "Go eat a dick", because he doesn't agree with his opinion on ghost hunting. These ghost hunting shows are nothing more than entertainment and should be viewed as such. None of the people in any of these shows use the scientific method. Their investigative practices are questionable and the results are highly dubious.
@pghxskaterx You're sorry for me? Ok, that's fine but I don't need a bunch of supernatural woo-woo to make the world interesting. Thanks, and happy ghost hunting.
@pghxskaterx I fail to see how my lack of belief in the supernatural makes me simple minded. If I am to believe in ghosts and the supernatural, I'm going to need quite a bit more proof than what has been provided to me thus far by over dramatized ghost hunting shows and paranormal investigators that do not follow the scientific method. Engaging in ad hominem attacks aren't going to help your argument very much, either.
Ghosts are non corporeal, so there are no instruments that would be able to detect them. Before I new anything about science, I knew this and wondered what the ghost hunters were doing with all the equipment they had. lol!
what the fuck is wrong with you i do this for a living fuck you go eat a fucking dick do you know how many ghosts there are in the avg. town its 5 ghosts! so think 5 times and then talk once
rading these comments, I sit here wondering how many actually listened to what he was saying. Researchers look for anomalies, period. We can;t say they are ghosts at all - it's all just data. Nothing more.
Ghost Hunting SHOWS, on the other hand, pass this shit off as gospel. And they thrive because there is a HUGE segment of their fan base that believe anything that comes out of their mouths. They then package their findings into ghost hunting equipment stores, and expensive seminars.
"True. But have you noticed scientist can't PROVE that ghosts aren't real."
Right you are. It's very hard to show negative evidence, and science doesn't PROVE anything one way or another. The Earth has not been proven to be spherical. It's just that the vast amounts of evidence we have that would substantiate or contradict the spherical shape of the earth all points to it being spherical. Anyway, that which is posited without evidence can be discarded without evidence.
@smaakjeks so if scientist are only going by amounts of evidence I think there is plenty of stories videos and pictures that are not edited or fixed to say that this is a real thing.
"I think there is plenty of stories videos and pictures that are not edited or fixed to say that this is a real thing."
But those are anecdotes, not scientific data. There is no way to test what these people experienced in order to determine what it was. Also, a mysterious experience does not automatically mean it was ghosts. There are plenty of other explanations, known or unknown to science, that could be the answer. So, why jump to ghosts as the first answer?
@smaakjeks I'm talking if it all happened in the same place. And true people shouldn't jump straight to ghost there ARE plenty of other logical reasons but what happens when you run out of logical explanations? Keep in mind no scientist has prove God is real with scientific research but don't you see miracles happen everyday? Things that aren't scientifically possible.
"what happens when you run out of logical explanations?"
But how do you know when you've run out? There are scientists all around the world working on explanations not yet found for natural events and phenomena. So, even if you exhaust all known mundane explanations, there might be unknown ones going on. Also, even if all mundane explanations were somehow excluded, how does one go about discriminating one supernatural explanation from another? Why go for ghosts specifically?
@smaakjeks nobody can prove that ghosts are real. No amount of evidence is going to do it for a scientist. Some people remain skeptics even if something paranormal happened to them. Why? I don't know. Personally I think they are afraid of what they don't know. Personally I go for ghosts because it seems logical. The stories has been around for centuries who am i to classify it as a lie?
"Some people remain skeptics even if something paranormal happened to them."
But again, how do you determine when something paranormal has happened, and how does one distinguish one paranormal thing from another? These are very important questions.
Someone says they saw a ghost. Okay? What if they saw a trans-dimensional traveler (or whatever)? Or what if they had a hallucination? Anyone can have them, no matter how healthy they are. So how does one investigate this?
@smaakjeks true these can happen. But one thing remains constant when you see a ghost the feeling you get. It's an instinct in your body that gets your adrenalin pumping. Also example my cousin seen a picture of her great grandma that had died before she was born. She never had seen her before and as soon as she saw the picture she said oh that's so and so we asked her how she knew and she said she sees her in the house all the time. Whats another explanation for that?
"But one thing remains constant when you see a ghost the feeling you get."
You may get the feeling from trans-dimensional travelers, and everyone just thinks they're ghosts.
"Whats another explanation for that?"
The trans-dimensional beings told her about her great grandma while she was sleeping and she forgot where she got the information from. Or, it could have been a myriad of other explanations, natural or supernatural.
It isn't more realistic. But, it isn't less realistic than ghosts, either. See, that's the thing. The mere fact that we have some preconception of what ghosts are or how they behave, doesn't allow us to know one way or another whether ghosts, if they exist, really do behave like we think they do. All we have is a label for certain kinds of unknown experiences. Nothing about the experiences allows us to link them up with a specific supernatural idea.
@smaakjeks Nothing about the experiences allows us to link them up with a specific supernatural idea.
Nothing? Alright I'll give you a little example of actual evidence. Goldfeild hotel. was built way back when it's a known fact in the books that the owner killed a girl in room 11 he chained her to the heater for weeks before. some honest guys get an recording of a young woman clearly crying. Now how could that be anything else?
Lot of truth to this for sure. As a director for a TAPS family team out of Canada. I can say that we don't know if they exist at all. I only use such instruments as a point of interest. Never make a claim based on it either. Certain readings may point out extreme sources of EMF in the home in the base reads more for their other symptoms not ghosts. Pics, not a chance.. dust mostly. EVP, under controlled enviro maybe. But TV is TV for sure.
bujingodai 6 days ago
I'm so confused. Why does someone explain how a staged show's methods are not working for something that this certain someone has no valid information about to begin with.
PS: I really enjoy watching Ghost Adventures. It's fun.
trexation 1 week ago
although I agree with most of what you say and you cant trust most of what you see on tv I have to ask the question have you yourself been on many investigations? because any seasoned ghost hunter will tell you yes you have to go scientifically about your findings and using the equipment but there are experiences and evidence caught that just can not be explained away by science its ok to be skeptical we are too but people have discovered this and its always a great day to go ghost hunting
jagpitshow757 1 week ago
just because ghosts do not have any "KNOWN" properties, does not rule out the fact that they could INFACT have physical properties.
mockmockers123 1 week ago
in fact this video only tells us how much we dont know so there is no real valid conclussion
mockmockers123 1 week ago
Very well put. Some of the shows are fun to watch (ie Ghost Adventures) but the people on them are obviously scientifically illiterate. Best leave the putatively paranormal to trained parapsychologists.
MrParanormalist 2 weeks ago
Somebody once wrote something interesting after being accused of being "Close minded"
"So don't focus on buzzword labels like "closed minded" or "true believer". You can be both of those things and still be able to properly analyze evidence and draw a supported conclusion. You can also be guilty of neither fault, and yet be unable to distinguish a well-supported conclusion from mountains of poor evidence."
Good episode of Skeptoid. Perhaps some more people should listen to it.
AJBa83 1 month ago
Hey i saw first you " Science's Worshipper"... no offence.. :p ask science plz why u research no ghosts when they have no property ,, how u came to know about them :P oh scientific method...
TheAqibkhan 1 month ago
This man is not a skeptic, he is a close minded fool. His other videos (organic farming, pacific trash island, etc) show that he does not embrace facts at all, but is actually willing to skew them in order to embrace the commonly perceived "skeptical" view that is held by most skeptics. Being skeptical is fine, but financially preying on skeptics with erroneous opinions poorly disguised as facts, is disgusting.
TheKronicBabe 1 month ago
@TheKronicBabe at least he backs up his claim with evidence. What do you use? insults, practically meaningless in science's mind.
lman318 1 month ago
Wrongggggggggffffggggggggg
THEPRANKSTARS100 1 month ago
i like how he doesn't eliminate the possibility of ghosts
RainAngel111 1 month ago 2
ghosts are not real they are called black spirits riley
velcrofog 1 month ago
There was a time when people did not believe that a ship made of metal can sail.
There was a time when people did not believe that a plane made of metal can fly.
There was a time when people did not believe that talking over the ocean was possible without wires.
There was a time when people did not believe in... bla-bla-bla... the list can go on & on.
Do NOT try to explain things you (yourself) have no idea what you're talking about.
New discoveries are coming fast - just be open-minded...
dmatuse 2 months ago 2
Come on guys, a skeptic is not a nay-sayer. A skeptic is someone who wants the truth and is willing to change their views based on new evidence. That is true open mind thinking and a fantastic and way of life. I'm sure Brian wears the badge with pride. As do I. PS. Calling someone a "Dick" and other names does NOT valid your arguement, its just poor taste.
wasabigun 2 months ago
All his videos are mostly half-truths. He is half right in this video and his thinking needs to a little futher.
GrowingTreeAz 2 months ago in playlist InFact
U guys r dumb ghost do exist and science isn't the answer to everything
zinzun69 2 months ago
@zinzun69 Dunning provides evidence, where's yours?
Wizzie0 2 months ago
He says ghosts do not have any KNOWN detectable properties. How the hell does he know that if its not known? WTF?... Oh well, another skeptic and I understand that. When he wakes up one night and sees a full bodied apparition standing at the foot of his bed, he'll delete this vid. All this proves is HE hasn't had an experience yet....
creativepaint1 2 months ago
"IN FACT" you didn't qualify yourself as an expert in any way, so the presumption is: your lying...
patpathegreat 2 months ago
@patpathegreat You just bit yourself in the ass just as you typed "presumption". I'm sorry to say this my friend but that's a logical falicy. Even if I weren't a skeptic, I'd be more inclined to believe him than you.
Wizzie0 2 months ago
@patpathegreat what?
BlazingGamer23 2 months ago
hahaha
"what was that?!!!"
KCIDvGIBvATTOGi 3 months ago
Sorry for calling Brian a bad name. I am indeed naughty. But I am indeed a full time researcher who pends an obsessive amount of time attempting to document anomalous activity. This gives me bit a a gripe when people outright deny existance.
Documenting this type of activity is difficult as the subject matter is spontanious and hard to prove, but that doesn't stop me trying. Thankyou Z4RUM4N for pointing out my fault. But Im afraid facts still don't exist as theoreticaly nothing does.
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MrIainlawrence 4 months ago
@MrIainlawrence Uh, you're thinking of truths, not facts. Something becomes fact when it's been shown to be accurate through repeat experiments. There are facts. You describing yourself as a 'psychical resrearch investigator' and constantly calling Brian Dunning a dick, makes it pretty sure you aren't a real researcher.
Still I am interested in what the alternate argument is.
Z4RUM4N 3 months ago
Well, Zak Bagans uses provocation AND the scientific method to confirm what he already knows is true.
He's been scratched, mark of the trinity, thats demonic. Whats your science for that knucklehead?
helloweenskeeper 4 months ago
I think this guy's right for the most part. Many EVP's can be summed up simply as chamber reverb. But his explanations don't quantify or justify the times when humans are removed from the environment. I want to believe in ghosts, but shows that dumb things down (or toss in psychics) really pee on the question of living space anomalies and the after life.
TheBigNext 4 months ago
This is so true. That's why I watch paranormal shows for entertainment and not actually expecting a Scientific Investigation.
Just by setting up, holding and/or using the equipment you run the risk of interfering with it. We don't have equipment yet that can "pick up" a spirit or soul.
Also, they seem to forget that "unexplained does not mean paranormal". Science is still, and will always discover knew things and uses or knowledge about known things.
An anomaly today could be tomorrow's e
xXxlaniparisxXx 4 months ago
there's alot of hate on this video. not sure why. great job
stewdemonkey 4 months ago 3
This Guy Is Full Of Scientific SHIT!
346gerard 4 months ago
U must be a skeptic. Hello, spirits take energy, theres actually an energy pump for spirits to "feed" off of. I'm a huge fan of Ghost Adventures(Zak Bagans Lover rite here) and they explain each tool THEY KNOW WAT THEY'RE DOING AND USING
TheEmoKimiko 4 months ago
@TheEmoKimiko This guy is a total skeptic. Zak has been scratched by a demon at Bobby Mackey's Music world. Whats his science for THAT? This guy is a skeptic, maybe he should go on a lockdown, then see if his science can protect him from evil entities.
helloweenskeeper 4 months ago
@helloweenskeeper Admitted I haven't a clue who Zak is, but a quick google search quite clearly indicates he does not use the scientific method.
I've done a 'lockdown' once myself as a child (it was isolated albeit we did go into the garden occasionally), absolutely nothing paranormal happened, and yes this was a supposedly haunted house.
Z4RUM4N 3 months ago
Why don't these guys ever go along on ghost hunts and then debunk the data/voices etc. that they capture? The editor of skeptic magazine was on Paranormal Challenge and couldn't explain a child's voice captured live while he was there
kstars101 4 months ago
Ur dumb
DanyandRachelle 4 months ago
What a fag man
Davieboii1 4 months ago
some of the equipment i agree with what he is saying..a simple digital recorder does a lot...i have picked up many voices that are unexplainable...i have seen and heard so much through out my life..to know ghost are out here, or spirits...and a digital camera works wonders...anything else is just to much money spent.
ChadFKNLawrence 4 months ago
@ChadFKNLawrence I agree, his "Scientific" method of debunking the EVP method was, blah blah its staged blah blah. How about being a true scientist and experimenting. This guy is a fraud and a disgrace to true researchers.
BillyrayJBl 2 months ago
Well seeing Ghost has been documented threw out History from all over the world for Thousands of Years,Not just by common people but by Kings,Queens,Presidents,Poor people and Rich people....Even the Bible has stories about visitation from Spirits...So if you don't believe in the Paranormal it really doesn't matter because maybe one day something will happen that might change your mind and you wouldn't be the first skeptic to change his or hers mind about the matter:)
artistheat 4 months ago
think this guys going to be a ghosts very soon
djscomputers 5 months ago
I am a paranormal investigator, but agree with him 100%.
Jonste24 5 months ago
this guy is a dickhead
deadfish30 5 months ago
I completely agree with the science part and that these shows are all fake but I really wish you to live a "ghost" experience as its 100% real! And I'm not talking about stupid sounds and just objects moving...
solidsn2011 5 months ago
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airgear1977 5 months ago
@airgear1977 You might dislike it mate but like it or not there is definitely something happening on another dimension. Let me ask you, what is your religion?
solidsn2011 5 months ago
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@airgear1977 You might dislike it mate but like it or not there is definitely something happening on another dimension. Let me ask you, what is your religion?
solidsn2011 5 months ago
@airgear1977 You might dislike it mate but like it or not there is definitely something happening on another dimension. May I ask what your religion is?
solidsn2011 5 months ago
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@airgear1977 You might dislike it mate but like it or not there is definitely something happening on another dimension. May I ask what your religion is?
solidsn2011 5 months ago
Ghost adventures is better than Ghost Hunters...
Plus, who wants to bet this pussy would go in there with them?
HHHdahman 5 months ago
@HHHdahman
woudln't
HHHdahman 5 months ago
It has been quite evident from exiting show participants, that Ghost Hunters is staged. In fact, at first, they were left to their own devices. But now, they even have a "staging crew" that arrives before the production crew, to "set things up". I am so glad that someone has finally pointed out the miss-use of the instruments on that show. I used an IR thermometer for years doing Heat and Air work, and the beam simply registers the temp of a surface...NOT open air. Ghost hunters is bunk!
FatDaddy4Fun 5 months ago 5
@DarkFigure666 then how do you explain the brick toss from ghost adventures?
survivealist 5 months ago
@survivealist Hmm, you got me there. There's no human way of tossing bricks, after all, especially not on film...
MidgardEagle 5 months ago
@MidgardEagle there was no other human just Nick and Zak, Aaron wasnt there that night
survivealist 5 months ago
@survivealist Why do I get the feeling we only have the producers' word for that.
MidgardEagle 5 months ago
@MidgardEagle There are so many stories about ghosts and such don't you think that maybe one or two of them are true?
survivealist 5 months ago
this guy never saw the brick toss debunked
survivealist 5 months ago
@DarkFigure666 yes yes I know after the point of life has been taken from the body what becomes of the soul the immortal part of you?
survivealist 5 months ago
@survivealist what immortal part of you? Nothing so far points to an existence of any such thing
tristbjorn 5 months ago
@tristbjorn the soul.... the item of life that makes you who you are. Im not talking about the heart or the brain or in the human body but the item that makes you have life after death
survivealist 5 months ago
@survivealist and where, would this soul be?
Z4RUM4N 3 months ago
@Z4RUM4N Wandering the earth thinking it is in Limbo.
survivealist 3 months ago
@DarkFigure666 so you don't belive that souls wander the earth lookng for the light?
survivealist 5 months ago
heh, i'd like to see brian debuff exorcisms and anomalies that cannot be put under ghost hunting
lman318 5 months ago
this guy didn't show any pictures of Ghost Adventures. Hmmm(:
fjramiz 6 months ago
1/3 people believe in ghosts. 2/3 people are wrong. This guy........ Is retarded, to say the least.
dancerdevil123 6 months ago
This is the biggest bull shit video ever. The point of the shows is just experimentation, its just theory there not 100%.
WHATSaDavid 6 months ago
@WHATSaDavid The point of the show is just to be show an entertain a bunch of idiots who would swallow anything...
CafecitoConLeche 6 months ago
@CafecitoConLeche Oh so I guess you know how these shows are made and produced? I myself am actually making the first only full ghost hunting channel. You need to not sit back and kick up your feet and instead go out and try it before pretending you know what your talking about. Give me 100% flawless proof that god is fake and then you can prove that this is as well.
WHATSaDavid 6 months ago
@WHATSaDavid
"Give me 100% flawless proof that god is fake and then you can prove that this is as well." You got me there, didnt think about it, I guess you are absolutely right, since is impossible to prove a negative ghosts are probably real.
Instead of going ghost hunting, why dont you better try to get to the end of the rainbow and get the pot of gold, because, you know; if you cant prove god doesnt exists then the gold may be there!
CafecitoConLeche 6 months ago
@CafecitoConLeche Who knows man... You ain't done shit to prove it wrong! So watch your tongue.
WHATSaDavid 6 months ago
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CafecitoConLeche 6 months ago
@WHATSaDavid
Theory generates testable predictions that can be consistently observed because they obey physical laws. All human senses and every single instruments we invented can only possibly interact with physical universe. Ghosts are by definition non physical. Therefore, there is no experiments that can be done about ghosts. The ghost hunting shows have no working theory about ghosts; they don't even work in controlled environment. They are just their to entertain gullible audience.
JaMoond 5 months ago
@DarkFigure666 Ghost are real. But i do respect your comment. But seeing is believing, some day it will happen to you.
MrJuicyfruitkush 6 months ago
I do believe Ghosts are real, but all those Ghost Hunting shows are complete bullshit.
aDinoSupremacist 6 months ago
Screw the haters, you've got some great videos, keep up the good work!
AlternatelyAnonymous 6 months ago
suck a cock brian dunning,get a fucking life and a real fucking job and quit talking shit.look at what you do, your standing in front of a green screen putting google photos behind yourself, and making a shitty 3 minute video, so go fuck yourself sideways,
masonkaynegoforth 6 months ago
@masonkaynegoforth dude, calm down!!! This guy is much smarter than many, many people on the internet. He's telling the complete truth. stop trying to act like your smarter than anyone else.
FalconAlpaca 6 months ago
@masonkaynegoforth whoa so much hostility for no reason. why in the world are you insulting a guy who is doing something so nice and necessary? and in such a childish manner too...i'm sure brian will take your statement all the more seriously for it!
DonFuego1 6 months ago
@DarkFigure666
you are wrong ghost are real you dont have 3rd eye so you cannot see them
hochangxian1 7 months ago
het a life guy and get a real job
kkk345ify 7 months ago
Oh really?? Do you think so? Well, I certainly will think about it! Cause my life definately depends on what some strange moron behind a screen with a sad life thinks about me. But the thing is how sad you have to be to attack people with their lack of education, when in fact you don't know anything about them. I don't need to prove anything to you, because I'm proud of myself and my amount of knowledge ,enough to realize that talking to you is quite pointless. Good luck with your miserable life
renski336 7 months ago
im a ghost hunter and i have hunted three ghosts yesterday. i have kept their heads in my drowning room.
MrBhargab123 7 months ago
Tell me, smart man, how come that I captured an EVP, saying my full name very clearly?
My full name is 26 characters long and is dutch, so, there can be no coincidence there.
You talk and think like a computer. Static and factual...and computers do the most stupid things because of that.
jimcarreyhimself 7 months ago
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@jimcarreyhimself "Tell me, smart man, how come that I captured an EVP, saying my full name very clearly?"
Pareidolia.
Our own names are one of the most recognizable sounds we've come to learn. Just like faces are one of the most recognizable images.
chaosqueued 7 months ago
im a ghost hunter dont say anything untill u do it it works yesterday i went ghost hunting and used all that equment
011zombie 7 months ago
And all this ghost hunting malarkey assumes that ghosts are real which there's no real evidence for whatsoever.
riplox1986 8 months ago
@riplox1986: It's ok to be skeptic until you experience something for yourself. I think "ghosthunting" would be more respectable among the general public if it would be referred to as "paranormal or spirit" investigating. Ghosthunting sounds too negative and childish which makes alot of people want to ignore it.
puppyloveforu 7 months ago
@puppyloveforu
TAPS and other ghost hunters confuse correlation with causation. They associate ghosts with intense EMF fields without really knowing if ghosts cause them. Ghost hunters start with the conclusion "ghosts exist" then try to prove it which is NOT science. Science looks for evidence, then uses the evidence to shape a conclusion. You need to be able to collect evidence objectively, and realize that you might be wrong. A real scientist can learn that he is wrong and be okay with it.
Slipknot808 7 months ago
@puppyloveforu I would say it's ok to be a sceptic ESPECIALLY when you experience something for yourself. Unless you subscribe to the arrogant "I can't explain it, so it MUST be a ghost!" line.
MidgardEagle 7 months ago
Even though he's right about non contact thermometers note being able to detect cold spots he fails to discredit anything about the use of ambient thermometers which DO NOT read surface temperature. Cold spots have been a consisted documented characteristic in haunted locations by parapsychologists such as Loyd Auerbach,
Contempiano1 8 months ago
what an EGO this man has??? LOL .... THE TRUTH IS..... like you know everything the best hahahaah....please scientist leave your jobs and put there this guy instead, cause he's going to save our world!!! Cause the TRUTH IS this guy revealed all the secrets we've been questioning the whole life...GET OUT man hahahahahhaah Even though I don't trust these ghosthunters either still you'r too much for me... and i still believe they inFACT!!! DO exist...WRONG??? inFACT RIGHT. :-DD
renski336 8 months ago
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MidgardEagle 7 months ago
Not everything in this video is accurate information. As far as EMF meters are concerned the Trifield Natural Meter description states when set to SUM setting" Human beings and animals usually emit an electric field which is easily detectable using the Natural EM Meter. In fact, the meter can be used as a motion-activated intruder alarm. It is so sensitive that it can detect the presence of a person through a wall. its sensitivity is of interest to researchers in the field of parapsychology. "
PN1011 8 months ago
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PN1011 8 months ago
TAPS :D
alyssaiguess 8 months ago
Im a ghost hunter and ive got a few things on my night cam, but i do agree with this video and what its saying about ghost hunting shows like taps which have been shown up to be fake drama. course they are, its all about viewers and i dont believe a word they say,, but that doesnt mean the little man (like me) wondering about haunted places doing it quietly with no fame involved isnt as real as it gets. we have to use the tools available and ive seen too much evidence and know spirit is real...
strich23 8 months ago
@strich23 the only part they act on, is the reveal! You can tell, because in TAPS Jason, and Brian, sometimes Steve are HORRRIBLE actors. but, I love the show. They don't really use that stuff, they mostly only use EVP instruments, and the EMF detector. When the claims are like when people see shadows, that's when they use the Inferred Camera,
alyssaiguess 8 months ago
listen here to who ever posted this video
is a total asshole and Ghost Hunting is Real and i have expirenced this my self
so this vid will be spamed because its offensive to Ghost Hunting
MrDOGGUY2009 8 months ago
I'd love to take this guy to some of the places I've investigated, let him sit there for a night by himself, then tell us that ghosts aren't real.
PResearchOrg 8 months ago
@PResearchOrg I notice spooky things at night =! ghost cause them
InterbredRollmops 6 months ago
This guy is talking crap! Anyone who does Paranormal Investigating knows only too well that you csan detect/record Ghosts with basic equiptment!
ghosthunternumberone 9 months ago
@ghosthunternumberone hahaha NO
fucktardickis 9 months ago
@fucktardickis What u saying NO to exactly??
ghosthunternumberone 9 months ago
what about evps
TheBenni10 9 months ago
Keep up the good work.
BTW . you sound similar to EdwardCurrent :)
10sodot 9 months ago
So ur with ur honey and yur making out wen the phone rigns.
U anser it n the vioce is "wut r u doing wit my daughter?"
U tell ur girl n she say "my dad is ded".
THEN WHO WAS PHONE?
fucktardickis 9 months ago
@fucktardickis it was her Mom
Banchy1970 9 months ago
@fucktardickis the mom?
0790ryan 8 months ago
Sorry but your argument doesn't disprove any thing. Through out history people had to use instruments or objects to get different results for purposes not intended for its original use. I.E a bird to detecte gas a key and kite to conduct electricity. But those tools can put them on the right track
jakixs 10 months ago
@jakixs pffft ur just hopeful that ghosts are real, dont worry i was once too till i got wise
117cam 10 months ago
It's fine if people don't believe in ghost.
Whatever helps them sleep at night.
You won't believe them until you have an actual encounter.
Knightimex 10 months ago
fuck science, science ruins everything.
MrRockinCanada 10 months ago
@MrRockinCanada becos it carries truth and ruins fantasy! i know hey!
117cam 10 months ago
@MrRockinCanada
Pathetic..
ManuelGarciaUlloa 9 months ago
I am a paranormal investigator and I do use an EMF detector, night vision cameras and voice recorders. I will stand up and say that paranormal investigating is NOT an exact science. We have to go with what has worked for some and use theory for most. My group "First Person Ghost Hunters" just did an investigation last night, we all clearly heard a voice ask "are you laughing at me" yet our voice recorders did not pick it up. We are dealing with the unknown and doing what we can.
Banchy1970 10 months ago
@Banchy1970 yeah right if these ghosts are really humans shouldnt have to go hunting to find them. why would ghosts be more active at night!? its the time we naturally fear from childhood so its no surprise our imagination can go a lil wild.
117cam 10 months ago
@117cam I have asked myself the same question about why do we look for ghost at night. I have heard many stories of paranormal activity happening during the day however we paranormal investigators always hunt at night? You bring up a good point and I think I will have our team do a daytime investigation. I will post a video of the outcome. I truely believe in ghost and spirits and I have this investigation team to try and prove they are among us.
Banchy1970 10 months ago
@Banchy1970
oh yeah n there is no proof ghost have ever existed in any way except psychologically. its ur imagination mate. bam!
117cam 10 months ago
@117cam by any chance are you an atheist?
Banchy1970 10 months ago
@Banchy1970 yes but that should be considered irrelevant unless u want to compare and judge religion, ghosts and fairies as equally true things...?
117cam 9 months ago
@117cam I'm not judging you, your belief in nothing is your right. Just making a coralation to the disbelief in God to not believeing in ghost. Why would you believe in ghost, if you don't believe in an after life then there would be no ghost. So at the most we can agree to disagree.
Banchy1970 9 months ago
@Banchy1970
but yet i disagree with that lol why would you need an afterlife in order to have a ghost? dont bother answering there is no solid fact u can give to prove an afterlife... ghosts (providing they're possible) may just be a natural phenomenon (some how???) lol
117cam 9 months ago
@117cam my thought on ghost and after life is if we have no soul or spirit then there is nothing to release (ghost or spirt) ghosts (providing they're possible) may just be a natural phenomenon (some how???) This is a possibility, I don't discount anything, thats why I do what I do.
Banchy1970 9 months ago
@Banchy1970 wouldnt metal detecting be a more profitable hobby? lol jokes jokes lol good luck
117cam 9 months ago
What I have seen here is an argument that there is no proof these instruments work in detecting ghost or spirits. On the flip side of that, there is no proof that those instruments do not work. If you don't believe in the after life there is no amount of proof that can be presented.
Banchy1970 10 months ago
@Banchy1970 The burden of proof is on the person making the claim. I can claim that my lucky pen puts king cobras to sleep, and indeed there isn't any proof that it doesn't. But before walking into a cobra pit, you'd probably want some proof. My pen may very well work, but without proof you have no reason to believe me.
If ghost hunters say that they are detecting ghosts, they need to have some evidence to back them up.
ii121 10 months ago
You sir need to try ghost hunting in a place that really is haunted using these things that "don't work" and see if you can get any evidence... everyone is entitled to an opinion but before you judge something you should least try it out first you are right about the thermal thing though that's why they use an ambient sensor now so this way they are testing the air temp and not the wall temp
MrJimijoe 10 months ago
@pat880111
Did you even watch the video? He doesn't claim ghosts don't exist. He says nobody has come up with a valid scientific test that verifies ghosts' existence.
smaakjeks 10 months ago
Hmmm. I think he should re-review some of his facts. The show he kept showing in the background TAPS (I hope he wasn't always referring to them) has already had a member come out in the open and admit they use fishing line in some of their videos. Not all their evidence is fake, but a handful of it is. There are things in the world that no one can explain, and I suppose until someone experiences something, they will never understand.
tommynemec2 11 months ago
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@tommynemec2
"There are things in the world that no one can explain, and I suppose until someone experiences something, they will never understand."
This assumes that personal experience is the ultimate evidence for the existence of something, when in actual fact, people can be and often are mistaken. That's why we need science in the first place. People's subjective experience is coloured and interpreted by their biases and presuppositions.
smaakjeks 10 months ago
I love this video. He said everything i've been telling people for years.
phoenixdvt 11 months ago
Is it just me or does this guy never blink in the video?
Da1337Mon 11 months ago
Someone get this men a tv show... NOW!!!!
guelmeneses 11 months ago
Following this guys over simplistic rationals are boreing. I preffer a more complex way of looking at the universe. True ghost hunting TV shows like drama, but still the Universe is just to complex to follow this guys simple-minded talk.
GrowingTreeAz 1 year ago
@GrowingTreeAz Everyone knows there's things we don't understand. But jumping to conclusions and assuming ghosts is not good. Even worse is believing something simply because reality is too boring.
Really though, reality is pretty awesome.
ltearthworm 10 months ago
@ltearthworm : Beleving in a complex universe does not indicate in just beleveing in ghosts. It is an outlook that there is much out there we just dont know about. Being narrow minded like this guy is indeed boreing!
GrowingTreeAz 10 months ago
@GrowingTreeAz
"Being narrow minded like this guy is indeed boreing!"
Requiring objective evidecne before believing something is not narrow-minded. He said himself that maybe one day ghosts will be found to exist. Well, what about you? Is there any evidence that would convince you that ghosts don't exist? Be open-minded now. That is, open to the possibility that ghosts don't exist.
smaakjeks 10 months ago
@smaakjeks : 99.99% of the Ghost videos posted on youtube are faked. The contemporay concepts of ghosts probably are not even real. However, the universe is muliti-demensional thus "Paranrmal" in all porbability is real and does exsists. I can reffer you to some paranormal vides that have an enhanced probability of not being faked.
GrowingTreeAz 10 months ago
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@GrowingTreeAz
You didn't answer my question.
smaakjeks 10 months ago
Wow, people certainly are touchy when their beliefs in the paranormal are called into question. Especially the gentleman below who so eloquently suggested that Mr. Dunning, "Go eat a dick", because he doesn't agree with his opinion on ghost hunting. These ghost hunting shows are nothing more than entertainment and should be viewed as such. None of the people in any of these shows use the scientific method. Their investigative practices are questionable and the results are highly dubious.
SkywalkersHeadband 1 year ago
@SkywalkersHeadband If you think ghost's aren't real then I'm sorry for you.
pghxskaterx 1 year ago
@pghxskaterx You're sorry for me? Ok, that's fine but I don't need a bunch of supernatural woo-woo to make the world interesting. Thanks, and happy ghost hunting.
SkywalkersHeadband 1 year ago
@SkywalkersHeadband You're happy with being simple minded. Don't need supernatural for the world to be interesting. K good points
pghxskaterx 1 year ago
@pghxskaterx I fail to see how my lack of belief in the supernatural makes me simple minded. If I am to believe in ghosts and the supernatural, I'm going to need quite a bit more proof than what has been provided to me thus far by over dramatized ghost hunting shows and paranormal investigators that do not follow the scientific method. Engaging in ad hominem attacks aren't going to help your argument very much, either.
SkywalkersHeadband 1 year ago 2
@pghxskaterx Why would you be sorry for someone that doesn't believe in ghosts?
LonesomeTroubadour 11 months ago
Ghosts are non corporeal, so there are no instruments that would be able to detect them. Before I new anything about science, I knew this and wondered what the ghost hunters were doing with all the equipment they had. lol!
Ricardius1710 1 year ago
what the fuck is wrong with you i do this for a living fuck you go eat a fucking dick do you know how many ghosts there are in the avg. town its 5 ghosts! so think 5 times and then talk once
TheAnsproduction 1 year ago
rading these comments, I sit here wondering how many actually listened to what he was saying. Researchers look for anomalies, period. We can;t say they are ghosts at all - it's all just data. Nothing more.
Ghost Hunting SHOWS, on the other hand, pass this shit off as gospel. And they thrive because there is a HUGE segment of their fan base that believe anything that comes out of their mouths. They then package their findings into ghost hunting equipment stores, and expensive seminars.
soberdave1971 1 year ago
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This guy is prolly one of those scientist who doesn't believe in God
LiveLoveDANCE2006 1 year ago
@LiveLoveDANCE2006
I think you'll find most scientists don't believe ghosts exist.
smaakjeks 10 months ago
@smaakjeks True. But have you noticed scientist can't PROVE that ghosts aren't real. It goes both ways.
LiveLoveDANCE2006 10 months ago
@LiveLoveDANCE2006
"True. But have you noticed scientist can't PROVE that ghosts aren't real."
Right you are. It's very hard to show negative evidence, and science doesn't PROVE anything one way or another. The Earth has not been proven to be spherical. It's just that the vast amounts of evidence we have that would substantiate or contradict the spherical shape of the earth all points to it being spherical. Anyway, that which is posited without evidence can be discarded without evidence.
smaakjeks 10 months ago
@smaakjeks so if scientist are only going by amounts of evidence I think there is plenty of stories videos and pictures that are not edited or fixed to say that this is a real thing.
LiveLoveDANCE2006 10 months ago
@LiveLoveDANCE2006
"I think there is plenty of stories videos and pictures that are not edited or fixed to say that this is a real thing."
But those are anecdotes, not scientific data. There is no way to test what these people experienced in order to determine what it was. Also, a mysterious experience does not automatically mean it was ghosts. There are plenty of other explanations, known or unknown to science, that could be the answer. So, why jump to ghosts as the first answer?
smaakjeks 10 months ago
@smaakjeks I'm talking if it all happened in the same place. And true people shouldn't jump straight to ghost there ARE plenty of other logical reasons but what happens when you run out of logical explanations? Keep in mind no scientist has prove God is real with scientific research but don't you see miracles happen everyday? Things that aren't scientifically possible.
LiveLoveDANCE2006 10 months ago
@LiveLoveDANCE2006
"what happens when you run out of logical explanations?"
But how do you know when you've run out? There are scientists all around the world working on explanations not yet found for natural events and phenomena. So, even if you exhaust all known mundane explanations, there might be unknown ones going on. Also, even if all mundane explanations were somehow excluded, how does one go about discriminating one supernatural explanation from another? Why go for ghosts specifically?
smaakjeks 10 months ago
@smaakjeks nobody can prove that ghosts are real. No amount of evidence is going to do it for a scientist. Some people remain skeptics even if something paranormal happened to them. Why? I don't know. Personally I think they are afraid of what they don't know. Personally I go for ghosts because it seems logical. The stories has been around for centuries who am i to classify it as a lie?
LiveLoveDANCE2006 10 months ago
@LiveLoveDANCE2006
"Some people remain skeptics even if something paranormal happened to them."
But again, how do you determine when something paranormal has happened, and how does one distinguish one paranormal thing from another? These are very important questions.
Someone says they saw a ghost. Okay? What if they saw a trans-dimensional traveler (or whatever)? Or what if they had a hallucination? Anyone can have them, no matter how healthy they are. So how does one investigate this?
smaakjeks 10 months ago
@smaakjeks true these can happen. But one thing remains constant when you see a ghost the feeling you get. It's an instinct in your body that gets your adrenalin pumping. Also example my cousin seen a picture of her great grandma that had died before she was born. She never had seen her before and as soon as she saw the picture she said oh that's so and so we asked her how she knew and she said she sees her in the house all the time. Whats another explanation for that?
LiveLoveDANCE2006 10 months ago
@LiveLoveDANCE2006
"But one thing remains constant when you see a ghost the feeling you get."
You may get the feeling from trans-dimensional travelers, and everyone just thinks they're ghosts.
"Whats another explanation for that?"
The trans-dimensional beings told her about her great grandma while she was sleeping and she forgot where she got the information from. Or, it could have been a myriad of other explanations, natural or supernatural.
smaakjeks 10 months ago
@smaakjeks but how his a trans-dimensional being any more realistic than a ghost?
LiveLoveDANCE2006 10 months ago
@LiveLoveDANCE2006
It isn't more realistic. But, it isn't less realistic than ghosts, either. See, that's the thing. The mere fact that we have some preconception of what ghosts are or how they behave, doesn't allow us to know one way or another whether ghosts, if they exist, really do behave like we think they do. All we have is a label for certain kinds of unknown experiences. Nothing about the experiences allows us to link them up with a specific supernatural idea.
smaakjeks 10 months ago
@smaakjeks Nothing about the experiences allows us to link them up with a specific supernatural idea.
Nothing? Alright I'll give you a little example of actual evidence. Goldfeild hotel. was built way back when it's a known fact in the books that the owner killed a girl in room 11 he chained her to the heater for weeks before. some honest guys get an recording of a young woman clearly crying. Now how could that be anything else?
LiveLoveDANCE2006 10 months ago