viMasterJag i gotta hand it to you, you post alot of jaguar videos and i really admire and appreciate your passion for the jaguar, sadly a console ive never owned or played but your vids are a good watch
God, they fight like a pair of hippos. And why did they make a voice sample for when the guy was about to fall out of the ring, and not when he gets hit?
I can't describe with words how frustrating this game is :) Just fought against Junior and lost... I'm pretty much so pissed off right now that I'll sell this piece of shit.
i have to disagree with most of these post about Atari making terrible games.Because there Arcade Games were incredible.What few companies that got involved with the system produced fairly decent games.The others who worked for Atari were just sitting on there ass collecting a check! That pissed me off.Because if you ever saw Rayman on the Atari Jaguar you would say they had no abilities.
Everything is superior to the final product of Superman 64, including Lester the Unlikely. I rather play Lester the Unlikely than Superman 64. I rather play ET on the Atari. I rather than Dr. Jeckyl and Mr. Hyde. I rather play any cruddy game over Superman 64. Because other games will just either give you nightmares or make you hate games for a long period of time. Superman 64 breaks people.
If Jack Trammel's Atari was smart they would have not wasted money on cloning games and made incentives for 3rd parties to port games to their system. Fight for Life is a mere Virtua Fighter ripoff that Atari did in house for cheap and it shows.
@viMasterJag While indeed Francois Bertrand worked on Virtua Fighter, he was just responsible for the camera and collision detection system in that game, he was not the lead programmer, only one of a larger team. In FFL he was literally the ONLY programmer and had to do this in 18 months on a system he had never worked before and that just did not handled 3D that well, therefore the final result. It is a miracle this game even made it into market with such circumstances.
@TheSciFiCat Ah, interesting! Thanks for clearing that up. Atari Corp was a notoriously small company (a far fry from Atari Inc's glory days), and notorious cheapskates as well. I'm not at all surprised that one programmer wrote this game. But in all fairness, Atari didn't have a snowball's chance in hell of competing in 1995.
@viMasterJag Yeah, that was the sales pitch at the time. But they guy they nabbed was French, not Japanese. My guess is he was "part of the Virtua Fighter team" in a six-degrees-of-Kevin-Bacon sort of way.
I see all these comments saying this was a piece of crap, but has anyone ever realized that this was a looooong time ago!? Of course it's crap, and most of you were probably born after this came out and had its era. This may be garbage but it's a founding system. One of the first and will always be remembered!
This game is awful compared to Virtua Fighter. Fight For Life came out in 1996, and it doesn't even look or play anywhere near as good as Sega's Virtua Fighter that came out in 1993. In 1996, Virtua Fighter 3 was released, and that game was probably one of the most amazing looking and playing 3D fighting games around at the time. Fight For Life on the other hand looked extremely outdated and was played extremely sloppy-like. Controls are stiff, and movesets are very limited.
This game doesn't seem TOO bad for it's time, It could of still used fighters that looked at least a bit less then figurines and mabye more/better sound effects
Jaguar was an interesting system.. Got it on my hands on 1999 a bit late :P but played quite a few games and I my personal opinion is that the developers should have pushed the system in 2D limits. It should have been really fun.. Take a look at the scalling on Super Burnout.. Sweet reminds me of the Arcade systems ;) In 3D except Alien vs Predator everything else didn't look that good. In example this game cannot be compared with the superior Virtua Fighter in 32X
the jag was interesting in so many aspects the specs were unusual and yet powerful but at the end of it all it was too ahead of it's time,hard to program for,and simply lacked the third party support it deserved,it's like having a katana in a battle but not knowing how to swing it to win the match,I have to say that this is the only console that I always wonder how the games would've looked had they pushed it's true untapped power.
the jag was interesting in so many aspects the specs were unusual and yet powerful but at the end of it all it was too ahead of it's time,hard to program for,and simply lacked the third party support it deserved,it's like having a katana in a battle but not knowing how to swing it and win the match,I have to say that this is the only console that I always wonder how the games would've looked had they pushed it's true untapped power.
@viMasterJag Disgusting.... I threw up looking at these God awful graphics and listening to that terrible audio. Atari Jaguar is the worst gaming system of all time. Stop playing that shitty Jaguar and get a Playstation and start playing every game! P.S. change your name to viMasterPlaystation GOD!
@playstation4evah I'll never own a gaystation as long as it's created by Sony.
I hate Sony and I've hated every one of their consoles.
The Jaguar actually had great audio for a cartridge system. It's ok that you're a PS/Sony fanboy, but don't come here with your exaggerations stating that the Jag is the worst system of all time... there have been worse... much worse.
Anyone (like me) who grew up with the earlier systems knows there was much worse.
@viMasterJag That's exactly right. The Jag had some of the best audio hardware of any console up until the 6th generation. You just can't compare the Jag and the Playsatan directly, for reasons already mentioned. Worst gaming system ever? My Jaggi gave me a lot of fun times, so I'd have to go with the Odyssey2 / Videopac G7000. It used the controller from the IBM PC Keyboard as its CPU!
It comes down to this: Do you have fun with your console? IF the answer's yes,w ho the hell cares?
@shalroth I completely agree. The Jaguar had excellent sound. it had CD quality sound that was 16-bit stereo. The number of sound channels was only limited by the software. It had two DAC's(stero) that converted digital data to analog sound signals plus it had full stereo capabilities.
@playstation4evah Ok, you love the playstation. That's fine. I hope you enjoy it. But please respect the fact that we enjoy playing games on these minority systems. You might as well say "OMG that game looks like gash on the NES, you should play the Xbox version". The Jaguar was a remarkable piece of hardware and yes, its easy to criticize a machine with 6MB of ROM space for cod andgf when you've got 700MB of CD space. SO I hope you're proud of yourself.
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I can not believe this was a 64 bit system! The game looks like shit. Street Fighter on th SNES was a million times better in every catagory.The SNES was only a 16 bit system. Atari has always been garbage!!!
@clock655321 Dude, that is seriously not cool If you don't like the game, that's fine, but don't become offensive to others that might actually enjoy it. Chances are we're far far cleverer than you and you wouldn't comprehend the reasons why we find such things enjoyable..
@clock655321 You sound like someone who never even played an Atari system back when they were commercially viable. Atari was known as a great company back in the day, hence your comment of "Atari has always been garbage" doesn't really make sense.
@SNESosT Bitch do your research first the super nes and the atari jaguar are both from the 90s. However the snes was a 16 bit system and the jaguar was 64 bit system the snes had better sound and graphics do the math you dump piece of $hit!!!!
@SNESosT Bitch do your research first the super nes and the atari jaguar are both from the 90s. However the snes was a 16 bit system and the jaguar was 64 bit system the snes had better sound and graphics do the math you dump Turd!
@SNESosT Bitch do your research first the super nes and the atari jaguar are both from the 90s. However the snes was a 16 bit system and the jaguar was 64 bit system the snes had better sound and graphics do the math you dumb Turd!
I really don't think this game looks that bad, but it represents everything that Atari got wrong in the nineties. The suits in Atari's management should never have pushed for this genre of game to be developed, even though the programmers surely did the best they could with the concept and the hardware - much like Howard Warshaw did with the E.T. brief.
A brave effort to be sure, but not the Jaguar's finest hour, and a shame it was its swansong.
It doesn't look bad in the effect that it's probably the best that the Jag could do with these effects on a stock Jag.
You're right to say it shouldn't have been made. It would have been better for Atari to focus on getting games that were more innovative working (maybe paying better for games that would have been classics like Black Ice White Noise or Heart of Darkness)
@shalroth What would have been great is if Atari ponied up the money needed to actually polish this off and release it after extensive testing, but that was not the way Atari management saw it.
It was kinda funny in an interview about this game the sole programmer pretty much said this is about the best that the Jag can do with a 3d fighting game. At least it's better than anything that the 3DO could do... ;-)
(It's also funny that the stripped down 32x version of VF was leagues better than this!)
@jvilla1983 ... which just goes to show graphics does not a great game make, but gameplay. And gameplay really doesn't have as much to do with the amount of bits a system can throw around as graphics & sound do.
If you work with a system's hardware & limitations, you can still make a fun game to play.
It seems some Jaguar developers were just going for the graphics and not polishing up the game play on some games.
@viMasterJag Yeah, that's a good argument but if a console is crippled technically it is also difficult to provide an adequate gameplay experience for people. Games that demanded fast paced gameplay like polygonal racers are pretty shocking on the Jag.
@ItsCoolFromSaturn The thing is, good graphics (with fast action and good controls) on the Jaguar was certainly possible. Look at later releases like Zero 5 and even Iron Soldier 2 was an improvement on the first. The Jag could do it, but I truly believe some of the games were, in a sense, half-assed. You're right, the Jag did have hardware bugs, but other games in its library show they weren't technically crippling to a point.
@viMasterJag I didn't say it wasn't possible. I've got a long list of games I enjoyed playing on the Jaguar.
It's very possibly to produce a great game on the Jaguar, like it's possible to make a great game on any console. It's just when you look at the library of games available on it...the good games are kind of overshadowed by the poorly developed ones.
Sorry if it sounded like I was coming down on the jag, I love it really.
Fucking hell, the games on the Jaguar really look like shit. I swear to God, I honestly think the SNES had way better looking games. No way that the Jag was 64bit.
@Lightf00t1 Just the Jag's color palette alone crushes what the SNES could do. Let's not even take into consideration the many many many other things the Jag could do better.
It boggles my mind that you could even make such a comment and be serious about it.
Yeah, I understand that I'm most likely talking crap. I don't know much about computers/consoles, at least not technical things like "bits". I think I was just shocked at how terrible the graphics look now. But then pretty much all games of that age look terrible now.
I remember wanting an Atari Jaguar so bad when it first came out, but it was impossible to get one. Then not long after it flopped and I was relieved I'd got a SNES instead. Mind you, I got stung when I got an Amiga CD32.
@Lightf00t1 The thing about classic consoles is the graphics will always look like crap now. Our minds are used to modernized versions of the games and have a hard time looking back.
I don't regret getting a Jaguar for Christmas of '94 (still have it,) but the SNES obviously has a bigger library of games. They don't "look" better, because they simply cannot, but there are more.
@Lightf00t1 One thing that people need to understand is yes, the Jaguar is a 64 bit machine, however, it is an "early" 64 bit machine, technologically.
It's power was clearly in its 2D game experience, but it could do some 3D well. Granted, not as well as future consoles that had hardware 3D capability, but still, it was good for its time.
How can you say it's 64bit if the main graphics CPU (Tom), the DSP (Jerry) and the main controller (m68000) are all 32bit? Yes, the Object handler and Blitter are 64bit, but that's not the entire system itself..
@godseraser So you're saying if the Jaguar is 64 bit, then every processor has to be 64 bit, right?
If that is the case, then the Genesis could be considered an 8 bit, because of the Z80, the N64 32-bit, because of its 32-bit system bus -- you see what I'm getting at?
There is and never has been any concrete way of defining a system's "bitness."
Other multi-processor systems were similar in that their processors did not always calculate the same amount of bits as the others.
Oh please, it's all about the CPU and GPU, which are 32-bit on the Jaguar. Just because the Jaguar has some 64-bit components and the N64 has one that isn't, doesn't make them equal.
The Jaguar was 32-bit and N64 64-bit, simple as that.
@finngamer WHOAH, WHOAH! who said they were equal?! You're putting words in my mouth.
The POINT was the Jaguar is 64-bit, because it's a 64-bit architecture just as the N64 is, because of the same reason -- and both have components that are NOT 64-bit.
You, unfortunately, don't know what you're talking about.
Equal as in both are 64-bit, that's what you are talking about.
Just because the Jag has 64-bit co-processors doesn't make it 64-bit whereas the Nintendo 64's CPU being 64-bit, does.
Don't get me wrong, I really like the Jag, but I've always found it funny that Jag fans are so adamant about this fiction. The N64's Reality Co-Processor has internal 128-bit processing, but that doesn't make it 128-bit. Or maybe you feel it should be up to the highest nominator as with the Jag? Of course not.
@finngamer You're missing the point, which I've been talking about for a while now.
There has been no consortium saying "this and this = an X-bit machine." People have their opinions, but that does not equal fact. There's never been a consensus stating that you must have so many parts of the machine a certain "bit" in order for it to be called X-bit.
The coders who worked with software on the Jag claimed it was a 64-bit architecture and I tend to agree with those who know.
Sure, there isn't consensus on it, but it's just funny nobody claims the N64 is a 128-bit machine just by having one 128-bit part. And I don't either. So that means there IS a line to be drawn on "how many parts to have".
But since this has been debated for 15 years I don't think we'll come to a consensus now. ;)
Actually, there is a factual base if a system is x-bit and that is the size of a data register, meaning the native size of a number the system can work at full speed.
Back in the day, the marketing departments lied about that routinely. The whole bitness thing was always just marketing blah for the technological illiterate and doesn't say much anyway, especially when it comes to game programming.
@alizta I'd like to see a reference for that as I have never truly seen a set definition as to how an x-bit system is classified as such.
I agree with the marketing aspect -- that's really what it comes down to.
As long as people are able to make use of the hardware, you will see impressive games. The Jaguar had some -- not as many as I'd like, but there are some.
While the N64 did have a 64 bit processor, it only had a 32 bit system bus while the Jaguar had a 64 bit system bus. Plus how cares how many bits they had it is only a opinion. The gameplay matters not the graphics and also who cares about bits. No one talks about bits anymore when comparing system. The bit wars died long ago.
@ATARI800XLfan Possibly one of my favorite comments on here.
Well said. People continue coming in here complaining about the amount of bits the Jaguar is supposed to be, when they should not be worried about that at all.
The only reason I ever bring it up myself is in response to those people.
@viMasterJag Thank you for the response. That is how I feel with modern games and gamers. They say consoles like the Wii suck because it is less powerful and that it has worse graphics. I also hate it when they say there system is better like the PS3 being better then the 360 because the graphics are better, it is the game play and game library. I have played some games that looked good but played horrible.I say whats bits who cares about bits.Gameplay not Graphics
@ATARI800XLfan It would be getting really obnoxious at this point anywhichways. 128 bit and then, I think it's actually supposed to be at 256 bit now, except there isn't any difference between this and the last generation of consoles graphically, so stressing that point would be useless anyways.
Video game technology has platueaed (?). The only way to improve is with memory and sheer computing power. Fuck the bit wars, the graphics wars are dead. It all looks the same now.
It's all about understanding advertising and hardware. Sega and Atari are the only ones who boasted about their "system" being so many bits. Everyone else talked about "bits" but didn't specify the system as a whole as having so many bits. Atari and Game developers said the 64-bit of the Jag was because of its 64-bit data-bus. They never said "64-bit graphics." Technically the N64 is a 32-bit "system" w/a 64-bit CPU. The Jag is the reverse of that w/less ram and older late 80's technology.
@dstarks80 Actually sega and Atari are not the only ones who boasted about the system being so many bits. the TurboGrafx-16 was called that because it was 16-bit and even Nintendo did it with there N64 because it was supposed to be 64-bit. Though It look good Games like Rayman on the Jaguar had better looking 2D then even the N64 and Playstation did.
@ATARI800XLfan True. But Sega and Atari were the most aggressive with the whole bit thing. I agree with you on the Jags 2D abilities. Still enjoy my Jag to this day. Just purchased Zero-5 last week.
@finngamer The Reality Co-Processor has an internal 128-bit memory bus, but it does not have 128-bit registers. By your logic the PS3 is a 64-bit console as it uses a 64-bit memory bus for the system's 256MB of XDR RAM. Without a doubt the Jaguar was not as powerful as the N64, but it also released 3 years earlier. Also, most N64 games actually used 32-bit instructions to save memory.
Indeed. When people see something that isn't absolutely amazing, they like to say things like "no wonder the jaguar failed" and "this is the worst fighter I've ever seen," when in fact, there are others that are much worse LOL!
Well, given that those 3 systems were released after the Jaguar, their technology was better. 1 or 2 technology years is like a lifetime.
I think the Jaguar could certainly hold its own compared to some early titles released on those systems, however, later games are obviously more advanced, because coders had learned to take advantage of the power.
POor Jaguar. What a title! FIGHT FOR LIFE! HAHAHA! Kind of the exact name I would put on Atari's situation with the Jaguar. This last game was the system's Fight For Life incarnate!
That doesn't mean it didn't have the potential in the hands of the right coders, but the toolset for the Jaguar was lacking and sometimes you got games that weren't executed as well as others.
The game isn't great, but not as bad as some make it out to be. First, you have to know what you're doing when playing for it to be even remotely enjoyable.
Looking back at the game now, I really wish they just stuck with a solid, three-button config, versus making a five or six button config to take advantage of the ProController that nobody had to begin with, among other things..
Hmm,they sabotaged the final version? I'll have to take a look at that beta you've got.
In this game's defense,the fact that you can actually move around the arena in 3D is impressive. I may be wrong,but I don't think any fighting game up till this could do that. At any rate,its most famous competitor,Virtua Fighter 2,couldn't do it.
That said,the graphics and especially the moves look like a 1st wave 3D fighter,and the gameplay really is WAY too slow. Not the final bow the Jaguar deserved.
Atari was famous for not paying the companies that were programming for the Jaguar.
Francois Bertrand was the lead programmer for Fight for Life. He had previously designed the camera & collision detection system for Sega's original Virtua Fighter.
@ephiany1 Midway's 3D fighting game, War Gods, enabled you to move around the arena in 3D, it came out around the same time as Fight For Life. Unfortunately, War Gods was terrible. 3D movement in fighting game wouldn't be properly realized until the first Soul Calibur in 1998.
I remember my friend buying the jaguar. He paid quite a bit for it and bragged that it was cutting edge. They came out with very few games and it went tits up.
Xbox360 is not a 5th generation console. It is a 7th generation console. I do believe the N64 is not very capable of Smell of dooty 5 for 360 but it can handle the Wii's with a great engine. The N64 is far more powerful than the Atari Jaguar. At least you have fun.
If the N64 is 5th gen, then obviously the Jaguar is NOT. The point was, you're a dumbass for comparing them when they're not even in the same generation.
I thought I made that clear with the intentionally retarded comparison between the 360 & N64.
Well actually it does a better job than a windows pc, and I see it more as a return to the "home computer" days where the computer plays the video games without need for upgrade etc.
Though I still have a linux pc set up to play return to castle wolfenstein and a win98 partition for some stuff like battlezone nd compatibility with my ST and Atari Falcon.
If by doing a better job then a windows PC you mean "doing a hell of a lot less than any old PC" than I agree.
Oh and please, upgradable computers have been around even before the Amiga or the Atari ST, so don't even try to go there, those computers would usually get outdated in two years tops, a regular PC can as expensive or as cheap as you want it to be.
Of course the Jaguar and N64 are the same generation. Just because the Jaguar was early doesn't make it the tech king of the 4th generation, just the most powerless of the 5th. It's like the Dreamcast, it was a part of the PS2, Xbox, GC generation, not the previous.
@finngamer Nah, from a technological standpoint, after the Jaguar and 3DO, the big "3D Boom" happened, so it really doesn't make sense to put them in the same category, since the Jag & 3DO were not intended to be 3D polygon powerhouses like the PS & N64 were.
From a technological standpoint, the Jaguar has built-in capabilities to create 3D graphics, whereas the SNES and MegaDrive/Genesis do not.
This creates a clear separation between generations. Sorry, but just being low powered in 3D doesn't change the fact where the Jaguar should be compared to.
Well, even just by looking at the timeline of released consoles, the Jaguar and 3DO are closer to the later generation than the gen before. I see no need to "manufacture" a generation just for these two just because they compare badly to other consoles of their time.
By saying "there really wasn't any" do you mean there REALLY wasn't any or there KINDA wasn't any because it's so underpowered? Did the cartridges really all have special hardware on them like the polygon games on the SNES?
@finngamer No, the carts do not have any added power like the SNES needed.
If I remember correctly, the computations for polygons are done in software and not hardware on the Jaguar
I could be partially wrong in that the hardware "helped" in the polygon department -- I mean, that would make sense, but it does not have ANY dedicated polygon-creating hardware like the Playstation started with.
@viMasterJag im going to have to agree with you.the 3do and jag cannot be compared with n64 or ps1 because they were really pseudo 3d.not true 3d cosnoles like n64.
Yes wikipedia does say they are both from the same generation but it also say's it is not completely far to compare the two as the N64 came out three years later and as such the technology was three year more advanced, and had improved. For exapmple back in 1993 systems were not as capable at textured Polygons as they were in 1996 and it does say the Jaguar is almost more towards the earlier generation . That would be like comparing the PS1 and Dreamcast because they are only 3 to 4 years apart
My bad. Wiki said thad that it was a 5th gen console. I am sure though that it was toe to toe against Panasonic 3DO. I more up on the 5th gen to 7th Gen games. For 4th gen PC.
@redfoxbennaton YOur the one that's comparing this game with the N64. Fucking retard. Learn your shit before you go typing shit up on youtube it makes you look like a serious dumb fuck.
viMasterJag i gotta hand it to you, you post alot of jaguar videos and i really admire and appreciate your passion for the jaguar, sadly a console ive never owned or played but your vids are a good watch
cocacolaholic 5 days ago
God, they fight like a pair of hippos. And why did they make a voice sample for when the guy was about to fall out of the ring, and not when he gets hit?
bagnumberthree 2 weeks ago
dear lord, this sucks.
juiaob 2 weeks ago
Words cannot describe how unbelievably awful this game is.
Lightf00t1 1 month ago
I can't describe with words how frustrating this game is :) Just fought against Junior and lost... I'm pretty much so pissed off right now that I'll sell this piece of shit.
McZakke 2 months ago
Is there any way to get the music for this game?
MechWarrior141 3 months ago
i sleeped the whole day when i watched this
Hiramthedude 3 months ago
I dont understand you could make some SHIT like this and not know it sucks.
JackDaScarecrow 3 months ago
& to think this actually came out AFTER the 1st virtue fighter. This sucks.
Thatdeal79 4 months ago
i have to disagree with most of these post about Atari making terrible games.Because there Arcade Games were incredible.What few companies that got involved with the system produced fairly decent games.The others who worked for Atari were just sitting on there ass collecting a check! That pissed me off.Because if you ever saw Rayman on the Atari Jaguar you would say they had no abilities.
warsun99 4 months ago
=O
So epic!
CDCST57 6 months ago
I started jacking off at 0:46 this song and watching this gives me a serious hard on
magussucks 6 months ago
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TheRedCoke 6 months ago
"whoa, whoa, whoa"
XDeadSheepX 6 months ago
"I'll wait here while you slowly walk towards me for the attack."
"Okay."
"........"
*kicks*
ge5undhe17 7 months ago
what the fuck i'm watching
ffixdmc3 8 months ago
FIGHT FOR LIFE!!!!!!!!
FUCK YEAHHH!!!!!!
blueaxial 8 months ago
Horrible game...poor jaguar
RyudointheWay 8 months ago
wow, I think Jenny lost the fight because she got bored
RossJams 9 months ago
lol someone got this for christmas...
Skrimpish 9 months ago 3
@Skrimpish hahaha made me chuckle that one!
cocacolaholic 8 months ago
Check out EGM issue #150 from 2002 is you can find it, Seanbaby lists this piece o' crap as the #3 worst game of all time
misterbetta1 10 months ago
@misterbetta1 Yeah, but seanbaby is just about the most biased "reviewer" of all major video game magazines... ever.
There are SO many more games that are worse it's ridiculous, but he's one of those tards who can't stand anything Atari.
viMasterJag 10 months ago
I cannot believe this was rated worse than Superman 64? This is actually better than Superman 64.
SmartGuy4today 5 months ago
@SmartGuy4today Strangely the Superman 64 beta is also vastly superior to the final product.
joeottoson 2 weeks ago
Everything is superior to the final product of Superman 64, including Lester the Unlikely. I rather play Lester the Unlikely than Superman 64. I rather play ET on the Atari. I rather than Dr. Jeckyl and Mr. Hyde. I rather play any cruddy game over Superman 64. Because other games will just either give you nightmares or make you hate games for a long period of time. Superman 64 breaks people.
SmartGuy4today 2 weeks ago
Didnt Atari just release that crappy game test drive unlimited 2? im surprised they are still around.
agetro82 10 months ago
Did gaywads make this game?
unsanitized 10 months ago
@unsanitized No, they made you.
viMasterJag 10 months ago 16
That was embarrassing to watch.
moriya2k2 10 months ago
Does this game have Sentinel?
Pikawil64 10 months ago
If Jack Trammel's Atari was smart they would have not wasted money on cloning games and made incentives for 3rd parties to port games to their system. Fight for Life is a mere Virtua Fighter ripoff that Atari did in house for cheap and it shows.
vh9network 10 months ago 6
@vh9network One of the designers of Virtua Fighter was part of the team for Fight for Life, FYI.
viMasterJag 10 months ago
@viMasterJag
who? What SEGA AM2 staff member worked on this abomination. This is news to me.
vh9network 10 months ago
@viMasterJag While indeed Francois Bertrand worked on Virtua Fighter, he was just responsible for the camera and collision detection system in that game, he was not the lead programmer, only one of a larger team. In FFL he was literally the ONLY programmer and had to do this in 18 months on a system he had never worked before and that just did not handled 3D that well, therefore the final result. It is a miracle this game even made it into market with such circumstances.
TheSciFiCat 9 months ago
@TheSciFiCat Ah, interesting! Thanks for clearing that up. Atari Corp was a notoriously small company (a far fry from Atari Inc's glory days), and notorious cheapskates as well. I'm not at all surprised that one programmer wrote this game. But in all fairness, Atari didn't have a snowball's chance in hell of competing in 1995.
gamesDAMNED 6 months ago
@viMasterJag Yeah, that was the sales pitch at the time. But they guy they nabbed was French, not Japanese. My guess is he was "part of the Virtua Fighter team" in a six-degrees-of-Kevin-Bacon sort of way.
gamesDAMNED 6 months ago
@viMasterJag funny cuz i made up a song called "fight for life"
123viperdude 1 month ago
@vh9network From what I know the development tools were really difficult, whatever that means. Any info on Jagaur development kits?
LHarveySpades12 7 months ago
@vh9network It was coded by one guy who had worked at Sega previously.
joeottoson 2 weeks ago
looks boring
leppaberry 11 months ago
I see all these comments saying this was a piece of crap, but has anyone ever realized that this was a looooong time ago!? Of course it's crap, and most of you were probably born after this came out and had its era. This may be garbage but it's a founding system. One of the first and will always be remembered!
xXrunneRRunnerXx 1 year ago
Pfffffffffffffffff!!!!!!!!
papo112 1 year ago
this game was garbage. no matter what analises you try on it. it was a piece of crap then and its a uber piece of crap now.
rocharox 1 year ago
Fucking terrible game. But it brings me back to the days of "Wow look it's 3D polygonal graphics omg!!!1".
BudzMcgr33n 1 year ago
That looks like the most boring fighting game ever.
Saieras 1 year ago
Pobre Jaguar, fue incapaz de mantener el tipo.
dercetto 1 year ago
This game is awful compared to Virtua Fighter. Fight For Life came out in 1996, and it doesn't even look or play anywhere near as good as Sega's Virtua Fighter that came out in 1993. In 1996, Virtua Fighter 3 was released, and that game was probably one of the most amazing looking and playing 3D fighting games around at the time. Fight For Life on the other hand looked extremely outdated and was played extremely sloppy-like. Controls are stiff, and movesets are very limited.
RunningWildVidya 1 year ago
damn this looks great!
karamOG 1 year ago
This game doesn't seem TOO bad for it's time, It could of still used fighters that looked at least a bit less then figurines and mabye more/better sound effects
Since the atari jaguar was supposedly "64-bit"
iopkluj123 1 year ago
Jaguar was an interesting system.. Got it on my hands on 1999 a bit late :P but played quite a few games and I my personal opinion is that the developers should have pushed the system in 2D limits. It should have been really fun.. Take a look at the scalling on Super Burnout.. Sweet reminds me of the Arcade systems ;) In 3D except Alien vs Predator everything else didn't look that good. In example this game cannot be compared with the superior Virtua Fighter in 32X
sybnios 1 year ago
the jag was interesting in so many aspects the specs were unusual and yet powerful but at the end of it all it was too ahead of it's time,hard to program for,and simply lacked the third party support it deserved,it's like having a katana in a battle but not knowing how to swing it to win the match,I have to say that this is the only console that I always wonder how the games would've looked had they pushed it's true untapped power.
maleficus1000 1 year ago
the jag was interesting in so many aspects the specs were unusual and yet powerful but at the end of it all it was too ahead of it's time,hard to program for,and simply lacked the third party support it deserved,it's like having a katana in a battle but not knowing how to swing it and win the match,I have to say that this is the only console that I always wonder how the games would've looked had they pushed it's true untapped power.
maleficus1000 1 year ago
this game gives Tekken a run for its money!
179107199999 1 year ago 3
looks like FUN
thatsagoodboat 1 year ago
@thatsagoodboat heheh... finding news ways to indicate sarcasm on the internet.
Too much will just look like yelling. Ex.: THIS GAME IS SO RIVETTING I'M TOTALLY NOT FALLING ASLEEP.
egdeltur666 1 year ago
Ow ow wow! Hands down the worst fighting game ever. This makes Shaq Fu look like Mortal Kombat.
kffeine 1 year ago
Wait, that was the computer playing. Holy shit, I've never seen such a terrible computer controlled character, or a match drag on this long.
D4MVP 1 year ago
I feel bad for the one dude who spent almost two years making this. U_U
SWBJACMK 1 year ago
@viMasterJag Disgusting.... I threw up looking at these God awful graphics and listening to that terrible audio. Atari Jaguar is the worst gaming system of all time. Stop playing that shitty Jaguar and get a Playstation and start playing every game! P.S. change your name to viMasterPlaystation GOD!
playstation4evah 1 year ago
@playstation4evah I'll never own a gaystation as long as it's created by Sony.
I hate Sony and I've hated every one of their consoles.
The Jaguar actually had great audio for a cartridge system. It's ok that you're a PS/Sony fanboy, but don't come here with your exaggerations stating that the Jag is the worst system of all time... there have been worse... much worse.
Anyone (like me) who grew up with the earlier systems knows there was much worse.
viMasterJag 1 year ago
@viMasterJag That's exactly right. The Jag had some of the best audio hardware of any console up until the 6th generation. You just can't compare the Jag and the Playsatan directly, for reasons already mentioned. Worst gaming system ever? My Jaggi gave me a lot of fun times, so I'd have to go with the Odyssey2 / Videopac G7000. It used the controller from the IBM PC Keyboard as its CPU!
It comes down to this: Do you have fun with your console? IF the answer's yes,w ho the hell cares?
shalroth 1 year ago
@shalroth I completely agree. The Jaguar had excellent sound. it had CD quality sound that was 16-bit stereo. The number of sound channels was only limited by the software. It had two DAC's(stero) that converted digital data to analog sound signals plus it had full stereo capabilities.
ATARI800XLfan 1 year ago
@playstation4evah Ok, you love the playstation. That's fine. I hope you enjoy it. But please respect the fact that we enjoy playing games on these minority systems. You might as well say "OMG that game looks like gash on the NES, you should play the Xbox version". The Jaguar was a remarkable piece of hardware and yes, its easy to criticize a machine with 6MB of ROM space for cod andgf when you've got 700MB of CD space. SO I hope you're proud of yourself.
shalroth 1 year ago
Whoa, whoa, whoa
riproskaie 1 year ago
kimura's walk made me laff
MrDonkeydong155 1 year ago
Fuck this GAYme.
8bitJoker 1 year ago
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I can not believe this was a 64 bit system! The game looks like shit. Street Fighter on th SNES was a million times better in every catagory.The SNES was only a 16 bit system. Atari has always been garbage!!!
clock655321 1 year ago
@clock655321 Are you retarded?
bobbystar101 1 year ago
@bobbystar101
If you like this game, you make some one with down syndrome look like a Harvard Graduate!!
clock655321 1 year ago
@clock655321 Dude, that is seriously not cool If you don't like the game, that's fine, but don't become offensive to others that might actually enjoy it. Chances are we're far far cleverer than you and you wouldn't comprehend the reasons why we find such things enjoyable..
shalroth 1 year ago
@bobbystar101
The First Nintendo and the Sega Master System had better sound than this turd of a game. But hey turd for turd.
clock655321 1 year ago
@clock655321 Actually, no.
viMasterJag 1 year ago
@clock655321 You sound like someone who never even played an Atari system back when they were commercially viable. Atari was known as a great company back in the day, hence your comment of "Atari has always been garbage" doesn't really make sense.
viMasterJag 1 year ago 16
@viMasterJag kasumi ninja was better
ilikemunting 1 year ago 2
@clock655321 im sure if street fighter 2 appeared on the jag it would of been arcade perfect, this game is supposed to be 3d afterall
cocacolaholic 1 year ago
@clock655321 thats right man, compare a system from the 70's with a system fro mthe freakin 90's.............idiot
SNESosT 1 year ago
@SNESosT Bitch do your research first the super nes and the atari jaguar are both from the 90s. However the snes was a 16 bit system and the jaguar was 64 bit system the snes had better sound and graphics do the math you dump piece of $hit!!!!
clock655321 1 year ago
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@SNESosT Bitch do your research first the super nes and the atari jaguar are both from the 90s. However the snes was a 16 bit system and the jaguar was 64 bit system the snes had better sound and graphics do the math you dump Turd!
clock655321 1 year ago
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@SNESosT Bitch do your research first the super nes and the atari jaguar are both from the 90s. However the snes was a 16 bit system and the jaguar was 64 bit system the snes had better sound and graphics do the math you dumb Turd!
clock655321 1 year ago
piece of shit game
cyberyanmar 1 year ago
I really don't think this game looks that bad, but it represents everything that Atari got wrong in the nineties. The suits in Atari's management should never have pushed for this genre of game to be developed, even though the programmers surely did the best they could with the concept and the hardware - much like Howard Warshaw did with the E.T. brief.
A brave effort to be sure, but not the Jaguar's finest hour, and a shame it was its swansong.
shalroth 1 year ago 2
@shalroth
It doesn't look bad in the effect that it's probably the best that the Jag could do with these effects on a stock Jag.
You're right to say it shouldn't have been made. It would have been better for Atari to focus on getting games that were more innovative working (maybe paying better for games that would have been classics like Black Ice White Noise or Heart of Darkness)
jvilla1983 1 year ago
@shalroth
"I really don't think this game looks that bad, but it represents everything that Atari got wrong in the nineties."
The first mistake was Jack Tramiel putting his idiot son Sam Tramiel in charge of Atari. It all went down from there..
jvilla1983 1 year ago
@shalroth What would have been great is if Atari ponied up the money needed to actually polish this off and release it after extensive testing, but that was not the way Atari management saw it.
viMasterJag 1 year ago
I"m feeling the "64-bit" love here... are you?
It was kinda funny in an interview about this game the sole programmer pretty much said this is about the best that the Jag can do with a 3d fighting game. At least it's better than anything that the 3DO could do... ;-)
(It's also funny that the stripped down 32x version of VF was leagues better than this!)
jvilla1983 1 year ago
@jvilla1983 ... which just goes to show graphics does not a great game make, but gameplay. And gameplay really doesn't have as much to do with the amount of bits a system can throw around as graphics & sound do.
If you work with a system's hardware & limitations, you can still make a fun game to play.
It seems some Jaguar developers were just going for the graphics and not polishing up the game play on some games.
viMasterJag 1 year ago
@viMasterJag Yeah, that's a good argument but if a console is crippled technically it is also difficult to provide an adequate gameplay experience for people. Games that demanded fast paced gameplay like polygonal racers are pretty shocking on the Jag.
ItsCoolFromSaturn 1 year ago
@ItsCoolFromSaturn The thing is, good graphics (with fast action and good controls) on the Jaguar was certainly possible. Look at later releases like Zero 5 and even Iron Soldier 2 was an improvement on the first. The Jag could do it, but I truly believe some of the games were, in a sense, half-assed. You're right, the Jag did have hardware bugs, but other games in its library show they weren't technically crippling to a point.
viMasterJag 1 year ago
@viMasterJag I didn't say it wasn't possible. I've got a long list of games I enjoyed playing on the Jaguar.
It's very possibly to produce a great game on the Jaguar, like it's possible to make a great game on any console. It's just when you look at the library of games available on it...the good games are kind of overshadowed by the poorly developed ones.
Sorry if it sounded like I was coming down on the jag, I love it really.
ItsCoolFromSaturn 1 year ago
I love how the health bar just disappears. Who the fuck thought of that stupid idea???
Lemon77UG 2 years ago
Fucking hell, the games on the Jaguar really look like shit. I swear to God, I honestly think the SNES had way better looking games. No way that the Jag was 64bit.
Lightf00t1 2 years ago
@Lightf00t1 LOL! SNES couldn't even touch this.
viMasterJag 2 years ago
@Lightf00t1 Just the Jag's color palette alone crushes what the SNES could do. Let's not even take into consideration the many many many other things the Jag could do better.
It boggles my mind that you could even make such a comment and be serious about it.
viMasterJag 2 years ago
Yeah, I understand that I'm most likely talking crap. I don't know much about computers/consoles, at least not technical things like "bits". I think I was just shocked at how terrible the graphics look now. But then pretty much all games of that age look terrible now.
I remember wanting an Atari Jaguar so bad when it first came out, but it was impossible to get one. Then not long after it flopped and I was relieved I'd got a SNES instead. Mind you, I got stung when I got an Amiga CD32.
Lightf00t1 2 years ago
@Lightf00t1 The thing about classic consoles is the graphics will always look like crap now. Our minds are used to modernized versions of the games and have a hard time looking back.
I don't regret getting a Jaguar for Christmas of '94 (still have it,) but the SNES obviously has a bigger library of games. They don't "look" better, because they simply cannot, but there are more.
viMasterJag 2 years ago
@Lightf00t1 One thing that people need to understand is yes, the Jaguar is a 64 bit machine, however, it is an "early" 64 bit machine, technologically.
It's power was clearly in its 2D game experience, but it could do some 3D well. Granted, not as well as future consoles that had hardware 3D capability, but still, it was good for its time.
viMasterJag 2 years ago
@viMasterJag -
How can you say it's 64bit if the main graphics CPU (Tom), the DSP (Jerry) and the main controller (m68000) are all 32bit? Yes, the Object handler and Blitter are 64bit, but that's not the entire system itself..
godseraser 2 years ago
@godseraser So you're saying if the Jaguar is 64 bit, then every processor has to be 64 bit, right?
If that is the case, then the Genesis could be considered an 8 bit, because of the Z80, the N64 32-bit, because of its 32-bit system bus -- you see what I'm getting at?
There is and never has been any concrete way of defining a system's "bitness."
Other multi-processor systems were similar in that their processors did not always calculate the same amount of bits as the others.
viMasterJag 2 years ago
Oh please, it's all about the CPU and GPU, which are 32-bit on the Jaguar. Just because the Jaguar has some 64-bit components and the N64 has one that isn't, doesn't make them equal.
The Jaguar was 32-bit and N64 64-bit, simple as that.
finngamer 2 years ago
@finngamer WHOAH, WHOAH! who said they were equal?! You're putting words in my mouth.
The POINT was the Jaguar is 64-bit, because it's a 64-bit architecture just as the N64 is, because of the same reason -- and both have components that are NOT 64-bit.
You, unfortunately, don't know what you're talking about.
viMasterJag 2 years ago
Equal as in both are 64-bit, that's what you are talking about.
Just because the Jag has 64-bit co-processors doesn't make it 64-bit whereas the Nintendo 64's CPU being 64-bit, does.
Don't get me wrong, I really like the Jag, but I've always found it funny that Jag fans are so adamant about this fiction. The N64's Reality Co-Processor has internal 128-bit processing, but that doesn't make it 128-bit. Or maybe you feel it should be up to the highest nominator as with the Jag? Of course not.
finngamer 2 years ago
@finngamer You're missing the point, which I've been talking about for a while now.
There has been no consortium saying "this and this = an X-bit machine." People have their opinions, but that does not equal fact. There's never been a consensus stating that you must have so many parts of the machine a certain "bit" in order for it to be called X-bit.
The coders who worked with software on the Jag claimed it was a 64-bit architecture and I tend to agree with those who know.
viMasterJag 2 years ago
Sure, there isn't consensus on it, but it's just funny nobody claims the N64 is a 128-bit machine just by having one 128-bit part. And I don't either. So that means there IS a line to be drawn on "how many parts to have".
But since this has been debated for 15 years I don't think we'll come to a consensus now. ;)
finngamer 2 years ago
@viMasterJag
Actually, there is a factual base if a system is x-bit and that is the size of a data register, meaning the native size of a number the system can work at full speed.
Back in the day, the marketing departments lied about that routinely. The whole bitness thing was always just marketing blah for the technological illiterate and doesn't say much anyway, especially when it comes to game programming.
alizta 1 year ago
@alizta I'd like to see a reference for that as I have never truly seen a set definition as to how an x-bit system is classified as such.
I agree with the marketing aspect -- that's really what it comes down to.
As long as people are able to make use of the hardware, you will see impressive games. The Jaguar had some -- not as many as I'd like, but there are some.
viMasterJag 1 year ago
While the N64 did have a 64 bit processor, it only had a 32 bit system bus while the Jaguar had a 64 bit system bus. Plus how cares how many bits they had it is only a opinion. The gameplay matters not the graphics and also who cares about bits. No one talks about bits anymore when comparing system. The bit wars died long ago.
ATARI800XLfan 2 years ago 12
@ATARI800XLfan Possibly one of my favorite comments on here.
Well said. People continue coming in here complaining about the amount of bits the Jaguar is supposed to be, when they should not be worried about that at all.
The only reason I ever bring it up myself is in response to those people.
viMasterJag 1 year ago
@viMasterJag Thank you for the response. That is how I feel with modern games and gamers. They say consoles like the Wii suck because it is less powerful and that it has worse graphics. I also hate it when they say there system is better like the PS3 being better then the 360 because the graphics are better, it is the game play and game library. I have played some games that looked good but played horrible.I say whats bits who cares about bits.Gameplay not Graphics
ATARI800XLfan 1 year ago
@ATARI800XLfan The N64 was FAR more advanced than the Jaguar. Look at these specs:
CPU: 64-bit R4300i RISC (93.75MHz) / 64-bit data paths, registers with 5-stage pipelining
Co-processor: 64-bit RISC (62.5MHz)
RAM: 4MB (36Mb) upgradeable
Graphics: Pixel Drawing Processor (RDP) built into co-processor
Colors: 16.7 million (32,000 on screen)
Polygons: 150,000 per second
Resolution: 640x480 pixels
Sound: 16-bit stereo (up to 100 PCM channels possible)
I agree, bits dont matter, though.
ROD006 1 year ago
@ATARI800XLfan It would be getting really obnoxious at this point anywhichways. 128 bit and then, I think it's actually supposed to be at 256 bit now, except there isn't any difference between this and the last generation of consoles graphically, so stressing that point would be useless anyways.
Video game technology has platueaed (?). The only way to improve is with memory and sheer computing power. Fuck the bit wars, the graphics wars are dead. It all looks the same now.
egdeltur666 1 year ago
@ATARI800XLfan
wow I guess that explains why the jaguar's graphics kick the n64's ass
Supertomiman 5 months ago
@Supertomiman exactly.
ATARI800XLfan 5 months ago
@Supertomiman The N64 didn't come out until one or two years later so it bias to compare both systems like that.
philiptwood 4 months ago
It's all about understanding advertising and hardware. Sega and Atari are the only ones who boasted about their "system" being so many bits. Everyone else talked about "bits" but didn't specify the system as a whole as having so many bits. Atari and Game developers said the 64-bit of the Jag was because of its 64-bit data-bus. They never said "64-bit graphics." Technically the N64 is a 32-bit "system" w/a 64-bit CPU. The Jag is the reverse of that w/less ram and older late 80's technology.
dstarks80 1 year ago
@dstarks80 Actually sega and Atari are not the only ones who boasted about the system being so many bits. the TurboGrafx-16 was called that because it was 16-bit and even Nintendo did it with there N64 because it was supposed to be 64-bit. Though It look good Games like Rayman on the Jaguar had better looking 2D then even the N64 and Playstation did.
ATARI800XLfan 1 year ago
@ATARI800XLfan True. But Sega and Atari were the most aggressive with the whole bit thing. I agree with you on the Jags 2D abilities. Still enjoy my Jag to this day. Just purchased Zero-5 last week.
dstarks80 1 year ago
@finngamer The Reality Co-Processor has an internal 128-bit memory bus, but it does not have 128-bit registers. By your logic the PS3 is a 64-bit console as it uses a 64-bit memory bus for the system's 256MB of XDR RAM. Without a doubt the Jaguar was not as powerful as the N64, but it also released 3 years earlier. Also, most N64 games actually used 32-bit instructions to save memory.
inb4newfags 1 year ago
@inb4newfags By my logic? I said the N64 ISN'T 128-bit, read my comment again. The N64 should be 128-bit by the JAGUAR logic, not mine.
But it's not, the N64 is 64-bit.
finngamer 1 year ago
@godseraser So, the moral of the story is a system does not have to have all 64-bit processors to be considered 64-bit.
Hell, even the N64 (which Nintendo claimed to be the FIRST 64 bit machine) did not have a full 64-bit architecture, which I specified above.
viMasterJag 2 years ago
to me at least it doesnt suck as bad as kabuki warriors or shaq fu
aznjohn15 2 years ago
Indeed. When people see something that isn't absolutely amazing, they like to say things like "no wonder the jaguar failed" and "this is the worst fighter I've ever seen," when in fact, there are others that are much worse LOL!
viMasterJag 2 years ago
so how powerful was the Jaguar, in comparison to the PS1, Saturn and N64?
I know this game doesnt boast great graphics for the time but that doesnt mean its pushing the system.
lightdark28 2 years ago
Well, given that those 3 systems were released after the Jaguar, their technology was better. 1 or 2 technology years is like a lifetime.
I think the Jaguar could certainly hold its own compared to some early titles released on those systems, however, later games are obviously more advanced, because coders had learned to take advantage of the power.
viMasterJag 2 years ago
those dudes take really puny steps
aznjohn15 2 years ago
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aznjohn15 2 years ago
so Kasumi Ninja is the Mortal Kombat rip off...and This is the Virtua Fighter rip offf...i see a pater goin on here
3pac95 2 years ago 2
One of the guys from Virtua Fighter actually made this game.
viMasterJag 2 years ago
i read on wikipedia that guy actually made the game by himself
aznjohn15 2 years ago
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aznjohn15 2 years ago
So they're basically blood sprinklers??
POor Jaguar. What a title! FIGHT FOR LIFE! HAHAHA! Kind of the exact name I would put on Atari's situation with the Jaguar. This last game was the system's Fight For Life incarnate!
dogeymon83 2 years ago
Eh, maybe, but Jaguar still rawks!
viMasterJag 2 years ago
not exactly the virtua fighter and tekken killer now was it
nooblet911 2 years ago
Obviously not.
That doesn't mean it didn't have the potential in the hands of the right coders, but the toolset for the Jaguar was lacking and sometimes you got games that weren't executed as well as others.
viMasterJag 2 years ago
The game isn't great, but not as bad as some make it out to be. First, you have to know what you're doing when playing for it to be even remotely enjoyable.
Looking back at the game now, I really wish they just stuck with a solid, three-button config, versus making a five or six button config to take advantage of the ProController that nobody had to begin with, among other things..
austinmackert 2 years ago
they r so fucking slow in this game
streetshinobi407 2 years ago 2
the characters look lik they are polygons or not
impishkid922 2 years ago
Other than the music this game seems horrible.
ModelJames13 2 years ago 2
Hmm,they sabotaged the final version? I'll have to take a look at that beta you've got.
In this game's defense,the fact that you can actually move around the arena in 3D is impressive. I may be wrong,but I don't think any fighting game up till this could do that. At any rate,its most famous competitor,Virtua Fighter 2,couldn't do it.
That said,the graphics and especially the moves look like a 1st wave 3D fighter,and the gameplay really is WAY too slow. Not the final bow the Jaguar deserved.
ephiany1 2 years ago
That's what I heard.
Atari was famous for not paying the companies that were programming for the Jaguar.
Francois Bertrand was the lead programmer for Fight for Life. He had previously designed the camera & collision detection system for Sega's original Virtua Fighter.
viMasterJag 2 years ago
@ephiany1 Midway's 3D fighting game, War Gods, enabled you to move around the arena in 3D, it came out around the same time as Fight For Life. Unfortunately, War Gods was terrible. 3D movement in fighting game wouldn't be properly realized until the first Soul Calibur in 1998.
RunningWildVidya 1 year ago
Atari supposedly hired a programmer from Sega to code this game.
richardhutnik 2 years ago
for real?
cLaRkDamn 2 years ago
Yes. Google the history of Fight for Life. There is a bunch of info on the Net regarding it.
richardhutnik 2 years ago
Cool this game has side step.
redfoxbennaton 2 years ago
I remember my friend buying the jaguar. He paid quite a bit for it and bragged that it was cutting edge. They came out with very few games and it went tits up.
scoticus01 2 years ago
This game makes me feel sorry for the Jaguar...and Atari arguing the "64-bit" thing did not help!!
VideyoJunkei 2 years ago
Thank goodness we have 5th gen consoles like the N64 that are capable enough for pixar quality graphics and fast game play un like that dead Jaguar.
redfoxbennaton 2 years ago
Well, if we're going to make dumb-ass comparisons like that, then my 360 kicks your N64's ass.
Let's see your N64 pull off Call of Duty: World at War.
... see, sounds idiotic, doesn't it.
viMasterJag 2 years ago
Xbox360 is not a 5th generation console. It is a 7th generation console. I do believe the N64 is not very capable of Smell of dooty 5 for 360 but it can handle the Wii's with a great engine. The N64 is far more powerful than the Atari Jaguar. At least you have fun.
redfoxbennaton 2 years ago
You didn't understand...
It's a STUPID comparison.
No shit the 360 is a 7th generation.
If the N64 is 5th gen, then obviously the Jaguar is NOT. The point was, you're a dumbass for comparing them when they're not even in the same generation.
I thought I made that clear with the intentionally retarded comparison between the 360 & N64.
... some people's kids...
viMasterJag 2 years ago
the jaguar is 5th gen
it competed with 3do cd32, ps1 and saturn then in 1996 the n64 finally game out.
BTW the n64 can not handle wii graphics by a long shot.
Anyway... you hate sony? Why?
and buy a 360?!
The bigger of 2 evils is clearly microshaft wtf
mynameisleeyesitis 2 years ago
Personally I think the bigger evil is sony
st1ka 2 years ago
How come?
Sony never ruining the entire of computing.
mynameisleeyesitis 2 years ago
Last time I checked sony was the one who wanted to create a console that would eliminate the need for a computer.
So you could say that sony's objective IS the "ruining of the entire of computing"
st1ka 2 years ago
Well actually it does a better job than a windows pc, and I see it more as a return to the "home computer" days where the computer plays the video games without need for upgrade etc.
Though I still have a linux pc set up to play return to castle wolfenstein and a win98 partition for some stuff like battlezone nd compatibility with my ST and Atari Falcon.
bobbystar101 2 years ago
If by doing a better job then a windows PC you mean "doing a hell of a lot less than any old PC" than I agree.
Oh and please, upgradable computers have been around even before the Amiga or the Atari ST, so don't even try to go there, those computers would usually get outdated in two years tops, a regular PC can as expensive or as cheap as you want it to be.
If anything Sony is the one who's killing the PC
st1ka 2 years ago
It plays the latest games and runs linux.
It does more than any old windows pc.
I never said upgradable computers werent around before ST, even the Dragon. What I did imply was home computers, as in home not workplace.
Obviously nothing will replace pc's in the workplace.
Anyway I am more interested to know why you love microsoft so much?
and why you think you know what your talking about?
bobbystar101 2 years ago
Of course the Jaguar and N64 are the same generation. Just because the Jaguar was early doesn't make it the tech king of the 4th generation, just the most powerless of the 5th. It's like the Dreamcast, it was a part of the PS2, Xbox, GC generation, not the previous.
finngamer 2 years ago
@finngamer Nah, from a technological standpoint, after the Jaguar and 3DO, the big "3D Boom" happened, so it really doesn't make sense to put them in the same category, since the Jag & 3DO were not intended to be 3D polygon powerhouses like the PS & N64 were.
viMasterJag 2 years ago
From a technological standpoint, the Jaguar has built-in capabilities to create 3D graphics, whereas the SNES and MegaDrive/Genesis do not.
This creates a clear separation between generations. Sorry, but just being low powered in 3D doesn't change the fact where the Jaguar should be compared to.
finngamer 2 years ago
@finngamer I also didn't say it was the same generation as the SNES, right?
I clump the 3DO & Jag in their own category. They were almost "in between" generations. Maybe even "bridging."
It seems there are clear separations between both eras before & after the Jag & 3DO.
And no, there really wasn't any hardware on the Jag for 3D. It was done with software, so you're wrong on that account.
viMasterJag 2 years ago
Well, even just by looking at the timeline of released consoles, the Jaguar and 3DO are closer to the later generation than the gen before. I see no need to "manufacture" a generation just for these two just because they compare badly to other consoles of their time.
By saying "there really wasn't any" do you mean there REALLY wasn't any or there KINDA wasn't any because it's so underpowered? Did the cartridges really all have special hardware on them like the polygon games on the SNES?
finngamer 2 years ago
@finngamer No, the carts do not have any added power like the SNES needed.
If I remember correctly, the computations for polygons are done in software and not hardware on the Jaguar
I could be partially wrong in that the hardware "helped" in the polygon department -- I mean, that would make sense, but it does not have ANY dedicated polygon-creating hardware like the Playstation started with.
viMasterJag 1 year ago
@viMasterJag im going to have to agree with you.the 3do and jag cannot be compared with n64 or ps1 because they were really pseudo 3d.not true 3d cosnoles like n64.
lionkingfan 1 year ago
Yes wikipedia does say they are both from the same generation but it also say's it is not completely far to compare the two as the N64 came out three years later and as such the technology was three year more advanced, and had improved. For exapmple back in 1993 systems were not as capable at textured Polygons as they were in 1996 and it does say the Jaguar is almost more towards the earlier generation . That would be like comparing the PS1 and Dreamcast because they are only 3 to 4 years apart
ATARI800XLfan 2 years ago
redfoxbennaton your a fucking dumbass. Your comparing N64 with this game it's not in the same generation you fucking dumb ass.
magussucks 2 years ago
My bad. Wiki said thad that it was a 5th gen console. I am sure though that it was toe to toe against Panasonic 3DO. I more up on the 5th gen to 7th Gen games. For 4th gen PC.
redfoxbennaton 2 years ago
@redfoxbennaton in other words I owned your ass. Raped like a bitch! Get the fuck off youtube kid.
magussucks 6 months ago
@magussucks still with this stuff?
redfoxbennaton 6 months ago
@redfoxbennaton YOur the one that's comparing this game with the N64. Fucking retard. Learn your shit before you go typing shit up on youtube it makes you look like a serious dumb fuck.
magussucks 6 months ago
@magussucks sorry god!
redfoxbennaton 6 months ago
does this game has fatalities
JadMaster3 2 years ago
I think so... lemme check the manual...
Ok, nevermind. I don't think it does.
viMasterJag 2 years ago
oh oh woh, hahahah i just wonder i much is it today
8H2324 2 years ago