You sit there and pose all these EX-Catholic "writers" and apostates and, like I said in an earlier post, you ignore questions posed to you by giving more Anti-Catholic blatherings. Like I also said, you will not be able to have your prejudiced, hateful outlook when you are before the Throne of Christ, ALONE. There won't be any turning around to blame the Catholics THERE with your finger pointing. It'll be more of a ONE on one. I'll continue to pray for you. God bless!
@bheadh I am very well aware of the Judgement seat of Christ in which ALL Christians will be judged for what they did. (1Cor. 3:12-15)
I will NOT be judged at the Great White throne judgement where all the LOST people will be judged (Rev. 20:11,12)
That said, I will be (as a Christian) judged for NOT telling others about the Catholic church as it is called MYSTERY Babylon (Rev. 17) and ALL the "mysteries" are to be proclaimed as "GOOD STEWARDS" are supposed to do. (1Cor. 4:1)
@KingJamesBible Boy, you've got God all wrapped up and ready to submit to where YOU THINK you're going to be in HIS heaven. I guess you think you can will yourself right up in the front seat, "As a wise master builder might do" .."FIRE will test the quality of EACH mans worth". You keep on bringing up the Judgement of Revelation, like you're God, or going to be throwing people into hell yourself. You're not MY judge or anyone elses. No matter how much you condescend and belittle people. I pray4U
@bheadh "FIRE will test the quality of EACH mans worth"
1Cor3:13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.
1Cor.3:15 If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but HE HIMSELF SHALL BE SAVED; yet so as by fire.
The WORKS burn, NOT the man. Christian's judgement for what they did, not any determination on IF a man will be saved (going to heaven)
@KingJamesBible Just remember the "he shall suffer loss but he himself will be saved, YET SO AS BY FIRE part. You don't know exactly what "burns" because you havn't been there yet, (there you go claiming to know what goes on in GODS heaven) you know, in front of Christs judgement seat, alone. You sure do take alot of liberties with The Word. You will be judged as you judge others. I'd remember that one too.
It's a clear as the nose on your face if you can READ, can you read?
Every man's WORK shall be made manifest
The WORK is manifested of what SORT it is. God is judgeing the work of the Christian, the "sort" will show MOTIVES. Corinthians is wriiten to CHRISTIANS, not lost folks. The white throne judgement (in revelation) is for LOST folks, it's written to whosoever will read it.
Yeah, we all see what kind of "works" you do (by just looking at your prideful and pompous rhetoric...but like you said earlier thats my (pegogative) and they aren't holy. You have so much faith in your "whisked away" fantasy, now you're claiming to seat yourself in Gods heaven and use condemnation and abuse of anyone that disagrees with you.as your so-called calling cards. You twist scripture , without explaining ANYTHING.. I'll serve God. Rather than watch you destroy peoples faith in Christ
Yeah, we all see what kind of "works" you do (by just looking at your prideful and pompous rhetoric...but like you said earlier thats my (pegogative) and they aren't holy. You have so much faith in your "whisked away" fantasy, now you're claiming to seat yourself in Gods heaven and use condemnation and abuse of anyone that disagrees with you.as your so-called calling cards. You twist scripture , without explaining ANYTHING.. I'll serve God. Rather than watch you destroy peoples faith in Christ
Where do you get your "statistics"? Out of a population of 305 million in Africa 145 million are Catholic. Nigeria has the largest seminary in the world. Catholicism is the fastest growing Church, there and in Asia.(do your own research, it's obvious that you haven't. More RC martyrs in the 20th than ALL previous centuries combined. (mostly in China) So, I guess Mother Teresa wanted to "control" the "poorest of the poor" to cntrol their lives before they died? C'mon.
All anyone has to do is read the Bible and Know the catholic church is way off the Mark..the streets ran with Blood becasue of Catherine de Medici in France..give me a break..the Catholic Church burnt Johnathan Huss alive slowly over a fire for preaching the Gospel message..and Jesuits are scary and at least 50% of them are Homosexuals in Gonzaga..a Priest told me that..so you can defend the Catholic church all you want but you need to clean house and seek purity and holiness in the word of God.
@KingJamesBible yep//I think Tyndales death was perticularily horrible to, considering that he was such an incredible mind, speaking at least 9 languages so fluently that you could not even tell an accent. But Catholics calm there conscience through works and ritual, instead of Obedience and scripture..:(..they do not believe in the sufficiency of Christ and his work on the cross..very unfortunate."It is so hard to believe because it is so hard to obey". Soren Kierkegaard
@KingJamesBible How about King Henry VIII "murderous and bloody history"? Executing anyone who stood in his way, just so he could divorce his wife (which is FORBIDDEN by Christ) and then having the "next" wife executed? How about the "murderous and bloody history" of Oliver Cromwell? 100,000 innocent people were murdered by his "army".Brush up on your history pal.
@bheadh I could care less about henry the VIII, he has nothing to do with the Bible and your Cromwell accusation is eroneous. On the other hand, consider the conservative estimate of 50,000,000 people murdered by the Catholic church (approx, 550 ad - 1945) and documented by many sources including and especially by official Roman Catholic sources and Roman Catholic writers.
New Schaff Herzog encyclopedia of religious knowledge 1908, The catholic encyclopedia 1907 + many more
You inspire hatred and dis-unity among Christians (not very Christ like is it?). You base your agenda on what you've "heard" not on the facts of history. Christ also asked us to love our enemies and pray for those who persecute you..etc. (I pray for you, do you for me? honestly..b4 you read this, have you prayed for me?, doubt it) You condemn and judge others as if YOU were God, you're not. Maybe when you answer all the questions people have asked here truthfully MAYBE people wil take it serious
@bheadh "You inspire hatred and dis-unity among Christians"
What Christians would that be? Christians all thoughout history have preached against the Roman Catholic government and their pagan religiosity. To NOT to do so is a sin.
@KingJamesBible "All throughout history"? Like who, bfore 1520? We've already discussed the "Albigensians" (you know, the GNOSTICS) You are so blinded by your prejudices that you forget the message "to love one another as I have loved you". You still haven't answered the question of how Christianity (where your very "church" came from) spread throughout Europe in the years after Christ? If the Church "changed" which "church" took it's place? Anyone?
Geez... aren't you tired of all this puerile talk??
It's time to GROW UP... stop being a child.
The Catholic Church is the Church founded by Christ on Peter (Mt 16.18-19). The lineage of Catholic bishops today goes HISTORICALLY back to the Apostles. That is simply a fact.
Sorry, but Jesus promised his Church would never err.
You have been blinded by the wicked actions of wicked men who CALLED THEMSELVES Catholics. Every one of your critics has nothing to do with the REAL Catholic Teachings.
Tu es Petrus, et super hanc petram ædificabo Ecclesiam meam, et portæ inferi non prævalebunt adversus eam.
The Church is CHRIST'S BODY. It will NEVER perish, nor will it fail.
St John Chrysostom said that Hell is paved will bishop's skulls. Why? Because he was preoccupied with the wicked attitude of the people who called themselves the successors of Christ, yet conducted themselves unworthily. Stop criticizing THE CHURCH, you're mixing up two completely different things.
@KingJamesBible yeah no doubt.. but the scripture does say to watch out for wolves in sheeps clothing..:) I love Catholics and I respect them, but come on..the Bible has tobe our final authority..if not than anything can go and people like Bishop Skilstad and Morning star Boys ranch, and the dead baby cemetary in Spain and on and on will just happen again. The priests are no better than anyone. They are no different and should be judged by the standard the Bible and not the vatican.
Albegensians are around today. They are NOT Christian. They have a gnostic faith. AS A "CHRISTIAN" DON'T YOU KNOW THIS? The Catholic Church was The Church instituted by Christ. If The Holy Spirit wasn't with The Church during the "dark ages" how, then did it convert the whole of the middle east & Europe during the "dark" age? Which "church" replaced it and converted Europe? You can get all the false claims of heretics from the middle ages all you want and other so called "researchers". It's fals
@bheadh The Catholic church is a political heirarchy with Satan at the very head. It appears as "christian" to the world. You must be of the world since you actually think this is some type of "christian" institutiion. The true church was persecuted BY this wicked pedophile, organization and it is by the Christians the church has prospered. Many forget that it was Christians who were preaching to the likes of Martin Luther when he went for his walks through the providence.
@KingJamesBible Yes this "institution" feeds the most people and IS the biggest charity organization in the world. All people are sinners. Even the pope. I already see you are of the world because you judge others You won't be able to blame Catholics when you are before the Lord ALONE. Which "true Church" are you talking about? The Lutherans? the Methodists? None of these were around before 1500. The "albegensians" are a self described gnostic faith. Persecute us now. they'll be after YOU next
@bheadh The Catholic church may indeed feed some people to get "control" of those them. It's not any different than any other governement (Vatican is a government) GIVING out "HANDOUTS" to get control over them. It's happening right now in the USA as an example.
@KingJamesBible Riiiiight! There must be NEWS of this "control"...Where is this happening "in the U.S."? Nobody converts to a religion to be "controlled" and for the last 3 years the R.C.C. has had the MOST converts of all "christian" churches & mostly from those "churches". Listen to Dr. Scott Hahn ( a former protest-ant minister) No answers for my last set of questions!!!! Maybe you should brush up on your HISTORY so you have a leg to stand on. You contradict your own posts here .
@bheadh "Where is this happening "in the U.S."?" Are you joking? There are scores of volumes written documenting this. If you're looking for CNN to tell you.. forget it.
Here's a start >
The Vatican Moscow Washington Alliance by Avro Manhattan
@KingJamesBible Oh yeah, thanks for agreeing with me on the R.C.C. being the most charitable (charity means love) organization on the face of the planet. Christ asked The Father at the last supper "that they may be ONE as You and I are ONE". I don't think Christ had in mind that his flock would be 30,000 "churches" as today. Did you do the research on the sorcerer "king" James? Martin Luther , by the way, was a anti-semite and took 7 books OUT of the bible, he wanted to take out James as well.
@bheadh Calling the Catholic church "charitable" is like calling ANY government charitable. It's done to gain confidence (and reliance) from people to ultimately get control over thier lives. It has nothing to do with giving them the Gospel so that they can be saved... like a Christian outreach will do.
@KingJamesBible Yes the Vatican is one of the wealthiest Sovreign nations in the world and represented as a nation state in the United nations. It is crazy how much wealth the RCC has.
@doobersmanster Friend, the Catholic Church has been LOOSING MONEY for years.
More than 80% of it's supposed "wealth" comes from its possessions, i.e. estate... that is churches, colleges, hospitals, convents, ETC.
The Book of Acts teaches how Christians shared all they had. The Catholic Church being the largest christian denomination in the world, it is only expected that it is the "wealthiest". That being said, the Catholic Church is also THE MOST charitable organisation in the world.
@Gazdo01 Ok :) I am not denying that the catholic church does a lot of good things..I am from eastern Washington and whether we are catholic or not we all love our Gonzaga Bulldogs:) Spokane is full of Catholics and Irish, My aunt was Catholic:)..I believe that the Catholic churches wealth is < yes, in real estate holdings predominatly. I am a Bible Lover and I know that many things are not correct according to the Bible, such as a seperate Priesthood (nicolaitian).
@Gazdo01 Not really..if that was true then why is the catholic church neck deep in the ecumenical movement? Why do they take a vow of celebacy, poverty? why do they use pagan imagery and ritual? I mean ther is too much to list..I love catholics though and just think they have been decieved. to me it is very sad, becasue A lot of Catholics are the nicest people you will ever meet in your life:) like you:)
@doobersmanster "All anyone has to do is read the Bible and Know the catholic church is way off the Mark"
Oh geez... Where to begin? My best advice to you is READ the Church Fathers, READ what the Church actually teaches, READ what are the BASIS for all we teach, and please dont rely on what you've been told. If you are honnest, if you really want to learn, then you'll turn to the great Catholic figures and models, not to the opponents of the Church. That being said, let's begin...
@doobersmanster 1. Celibacy. What is intrinsically wrong with it? As a Catholic, I believe Christ is the absolute model, an example for humanity. More than that: I believe he was the PERFECT MAN. So, why do you criticize celibacy? Wasn't Jesus celibate?Did Jesus specifically say that those who CAN remain celibates SHOULD indeed remain celibate ? (Mt 19.12)
A priest acts "in persona Christi", that is, in the name, and with the authority, of Christ.
@doobersmanster Therefore, are your surprised some men are freely ready to live a celibate life? Where does the word CELIBACY come from? Two latin words: caelum and habitare... Which mean the "one who lives in Heaven". And indeed, what did Jesus taught about humans after they die? That we will live like angels, without getting married.
What did Jesus ask of his disciples? To leave EVERYTHING behind and follow Him. It is a great challenge to love your Lord with ALL your heart, yet marry.
@doobersmanster But, you'll be happy to know something knew... I bet you didn't know that NOWHERE does the Catholic Church teach that celibacy is a necessity for priests. Indeed, if you look at Eastern Catholics, married men can become priest. In the West, absolue celibacy is a matter of tradition. But I repeat, nowhere does the Church DOGMATICALLY teach that religious people have to remain celibates.
@doobersmanster Also, the Catholic Tradition teaches that Paul is the Greatest of all Apostles. He too remained celibate. Was he wrong?? Au contraire!
What does Paul teach? What about those who CAN remain celibate, LIKE HIM... not only is it a good thing that they remain that way, but they SHOULD ! (1 Cor 7.8) It's even BETTER (7.38)
What is the meaning of the words CONSACRATED LIFE? People who fully give themselves to the Lord... Try and meditate on this tradition, passed on till today.
@doobersmanster 2. Poverty. Did you watch the video I've sent you? The Catholic Church doesn't teach poverty per say. There is nothing wrong with money, as long as it doesn't become our priority, nor the center of your spiritual life. Please find me where the Catholic Church teaches dogmatically that we should live in POVERTY?
On the other hand, what did Jesus teach? Lk 18.25... And, in order to be PERFECT, get rid of ALL POSSESSIONS (Mt 19.21) and follow Him.
"Now poverty has no intrinsic goodness, but is good only because it is useful to remove the obstacles which stand in the way of the pursuit of spiritual perfection." And that cupidity, vain glory, and excessive solicitude are the three obstacles which riches put in the way of acquiring perfection.
Sorry, Catholics follow Jesus, no one other: "Everyone of you that doth not renounce all that he possesseth, cannot be my disciple" Lk 14.33
@doobersmanster 3. Pagan imagery. That is WAY TOO COMPLEX to discuss here. All I have to say is that this subject has been solved for the past 1200 years.
Sorry for suggesting LECTURE, but you should really READ this : newadvent (dot) org/cathen/07664a (dot) htm
Also, very easy to find on the Internet: SUMMA THEOLOGIAE, by St Thomas Aquinas. Go to Part IIIa, Question 25, Article 3.
There you will find a RATIONNAL and BIBLICAL case for the veneration of images.
@doobersmanster 4. Ritual?? What's wrong with them? The Jewish tradition is filled with rituals. Being the Great Continuity of the Jewish Tradition, we Catholics also have Great Rituals.
@doobersmanster 5. Ecumenism? Ok, what wrong with that? As Catholics, we believe we are instrusted with the WHOLE TRUTH of Revelation. Does that mean that everyone else is 100% wrong? No... There are RAYS OF TRUTH in every philosophy. God being the creator of ALL MANKIND, humans being created in the IMAGE OF GOD, I expect truths in every culture around the world. We are LUMEN GENTILUM... a "Light to the Nations". Read the encyclical...
Plus, this might be insightfull: /watch?v=roum4zbJ8ZQ
@doobersmanster Friend, some years ago, I too was exactly like you: surrounded by anti-Catholic friends and false propaganda. I had just lost my father, and turned to christianity for some spiritual comfort. I began reading carefully the Bible and was convinced the Church was wrong, that it didn't carry the AUTHENTIC faith. So, I sought for myself. I wanted to find out what the first christians were like, what had led to this christian REVOLUTION in the first century, in the Roman Empire.
@doobersmanster Going back to the roots, I began reading the Apostollic Fathers, like Clement of Rome, Ignatius of Antioch, Polycarpus of Smyrna, Papias...Why? Because they were disciples of the Apostles themselves, and they lives at a time when the Gospels didn't even exist. When I finished, I was led to the Church Fathers... There aren't too many of those, but WOW it just blew my mind. Such knowledge, such wisdom... And a love for God that I couldn't find anywhere else.
@doobersmanster I read about the great heresies, like Arianism, Marcionism, Nestorianism, Monachism, Donatism, Monophysitism, ETC ETC, who all pretended to be authentic Christianity, but were STRONGLY opposed by... The Catholic Church.That is when I got interested in the Church Councils, which defined the great dogmas of our faith (that you and I share). That led me to the Cathecism, and the Encyclicals, and to the lifes of great SAINTS.
I simply fell in love with the CC, the bride of Christ.
This is ridiculous. Do the research and see for yourself how your "KJV" was produced. I'll give you a hint. James I (VI of Scotland) was a known homosexual and sorcerer. He had another KNOWN sorcerer (even today this is said to be true) John Dee travel to Venice to consult with kabbalistic Jews to conjure up...you guessed it..the "KJV". I do not think Christ wanted His Church to constantly be under the threat of the Romans. This is false history. Christianity spread throughout Europe "dark age"
@bheadh King James unjustly accused - Stephen A. Coston, sr.
. Read it and learn some facts. There is not a chance in hell James was a queer or a sorcerer. It was the Roman Catholic Jesuit order that tried to STOP the King James Bible... dummy. You never herad of Guy Fawlks? They still celebrate his day in England.
@KingJamesBible Just becuase 1(modern) guy writes a book that James wasn't gay or a sorcerer doesn't make it untrue.. (I noticed you didn't comment on the "albegensian" issue) All the other historians claim he was. I also noticed you resort to name calling. Says alot about you. When Martin Luther (a heretical Catholic priest...so was Calvin) and Henry the VIII left the Church (the ONLY Church in western Europe for 1500 years) it started the breakdown of Christianity. Now we have 30,000.Churches
@bheadh In the Bible, the majority are wrong... in the Bible.. you understand. Everything should be based on what God said, not our "human" "understanding"
King James detested queers and only AFTER he was dead (and couldn't defend himself) did the JESUITS make these claims A denomination does not make up a "Church". PEOPLE make up the church. There have been and will always be saved people in almost any "denomination" but that is SPITE of what that demonation may teach, not BECAUSE of it.
@bheadh A;; Martin Luther and Calvin did was read the Bible...maybe you should too and you will come to the same conclusion as they did..they did not want to divide the Church..neither did erasimus, and he stayed Catholic. They just chose God and his word over the RCC. I think they made the hard choice and the right one..I hope you will too someday. The reformation was not about destroying the Priesthood, but establishing it to all beleivers in Jesus Christ. 1st peter 2:9
@doobersmanster "They didn't want to divide the Church"? Are you serious? M. Luther was given every opportunity to stay in the Church, he didn't. So every believer is a priest? That is why we have 30,000 + "churches" today. Every "preacher" and his brother has the opportunity now to be his OWN "priest" with his OWN agenda. By the way, NONE of these "priests" agree with each other on dogmatic issues. Christ prayed to the Father that the Church may be ONE and it was for over 1000 years, not 30,000
The Catholic Church is the only church came from the First church, Saint Peter was the first Pope. The History of the Church is and always been there, for almost 2000 years. You can can believe whatever you want to believe. All other churches started after the Catholic church. Later on they named the Church Catholic, which came from the greek word and means universal and a Lifestyle.
also, KJB, priests in certain Rites in The Church may marry, ie, the Byzantine, Melkite, & Maronite Rites. Only in the Latin Rite they may not unless given a special dispensation by a Bishop, like a married episcopal minister who wants to enter THE CHURCH & be a priest may get a dispensation. "What you bind on earth is bound in heaven" -Jesus. This is BOUND w/God. You disagree? Doesn't matter. Ur OUTSIDE THE ONLY CHURCH THERE IS !!
@Stinger4186 "MAY" marry based on what? "special dispensation" Does he give "special dispensation" for all those pedaphiles as well?? What about the current pope who (IN HIS WORDS) denies Jesus Christ as the Messiah!! Still not going to comment on that PROVEN FACT from HIS WORDS, not some conspiracy or what I think or what some fundamentalist thiks, WHAT HE SAID!!!!! You like to squirm away from this and cannot address it as it shows what a complete JOKE the entire Catholic cult really is.
He "may" should he desire to be married, einstein. Also, The POPE never said that Jesus Christ was NOT the Messiah! That's how you losers interpret him saying, but he never said that
Look, the Church was begun by Jesus; He ordained the apostles as His 1st Bishops. The NT wasnt even written yet. The NT was written by BISHOPS "of" THE CHURCH. The Church came before the NT was written, not after. Im amazed at the millions of stupid people that dont see this. U dont even follow the Bible
@Stinger4186 "U dont even follow the Bible " Let me translate this for you. You don't follow the Bible AS the Roman Catholic church DICTATES IT., but the fact is I follow it for what it SAYS. Big Difference. This is why the Roman Church BANNED (for hundreds of years as long as they could GET AWAY WITH IT) people from reading it as they would CLEARLY see the LIES and frabrications the Roman Catholic church CLAIMS.
@KingJamesBible This is why the Roman Church BANNED (for hundreds of years as long as they could GET AWAY WITH IT) people from reading it as they would CLEARLY see the LIES and frabrications the Roman Catholic church CLAIMS. >>> WRONG. Because people would see all ther NONSENSE in the bible. And that is exactly what happened when they allowed people to read the bible.
Try writing something truthful for a change after you have been taught to read in any language.
You are wrong again, and as RainhadoCanto4 put it so succinctly, "And that could not have been more appropriate, for EVERYTHING THAT COMES OUT OF THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH IS UNCLEAN, its POPES PROSTITUTING IT at every turn, kissing Korans, taking the Sign of the Tilak, bowing in mosques, placing Buddha atop the "tabernacle," making their prayer sites INTERFAITH, such as Fatima..."
KJB: Bishops & priests were married up through the 12th century, so yes, at the time of this letter, bishops could marry. "What YOU bind on earth is bound in heaven" -Jesus to Peter, Mt16:17-19.. This changed due to Mt19:12 & 1Cor7:32.
@Stinger4186 I see, so *some* catholic bishops followed the Bible on this ONE point (for a while) but no longer, but that's OK because, we (the Catholic church) are given "specail revelation" (CULT ALERT!! CULT ALERT!!) to change it at OUR whim. and you actually "used" a verse completlyl OUT OF CONTEXT to justify it.... Oh brother!
KJB: Again, by no fault of ur own are you outside The Church of the Bible. You don't actually follow the words of Christ, Paul & Peter.. A fundamentalist is s.o who is outside The Church & belongs to an "invented" assembly that came about in the last few centuries since the 1600s is all. No authority from God
@Stinger4186 You are a complete FOOL (or should I say TOOL), a fundamentalist is someone who believes the fundamentals DUH, I like your PRIVATE definition as given above, spoken like a jesuit priest.
Luther removed 7 books from the Septuagint & kept the Hebrew Canon (only 39 books of the OT when the Septuagint is 46 books). Luther removed 7 books from the original bible b/c "he" thought they weren't necessary! He added the word "alone" to Rom3:28, & that word was not part of Paul's letter where he said "we're saved by faith". Luther added "faith alone", & that's FALSE!
@Stinger418 Unlike the slanderous contempo cultists and deluded of the ungodly and popish revisionist ilk manifestly given over to sophistry and vain deceit, the linguistic geniuses and world-class prodigies who translated the Old and New Testaments into the exemplary English of the King James Bible were masters of their native tongue as well as Greek and Hebrew.
No factual error in the Biblical text of the AV1611 has ever been proven by anyone in 400 years.
also, you wrote the "canon of scripture". I'm impressed you actually know this term! Of which, didja know luther removed the Septuagint from the original bible that had been in existence over a thousand yrs? He had some balls to do that & that's forbidden. He compiled his "own" bible w/ no authority, by removing & adding to scripture. The KJV is basically a stepchild of luther's gutenberg bible. Parts added & removed w/ no authority from GOD to do so!!
Modern apostasy recapitulates Satan's words to Eve in Eden: "Yea hath God said...?" To lead lambs astray and hold lost men and women in bondage, Rome (the Mother of Harlots and Abominations according to Revelation 17) has through sophistry, murder, intimidation, censorship, deceit, and every manner of wicked device over the centuries promoted its corrupt mistranslation of the Holy Scriptures along with the vile private interpretations which she has wickedly devised.
The Alexandrian cultists and popish toadies who oppose the King James Bible always align with the opinions of men rather than the text of the Holy Scriptures itself.
They also oppose the inspiration of Holy Bible, and usually substitute a revamped German Higher Criticism for believing the sound Biblical doctrine of Scriptural preservation verbatim by the LORD.
White-heads, devotees of James White, are among the shallowest sort of such pedants who hate the King James Bible
KJB: Paul even states he has no written gospel. Gal1:11-12. The Church was begun by Jesus before the NT was ever written! I love the scriptures, but you people don't understand TIMELINES of when the early texts were written! This is important. For example, Peter left Antioch in 42AD & headed for Rome. Along the way, Mark accompanied him. Mark wrote his gospels from Peter's sermons in Rome. Where's this written? See yet? They're BISHOPS! Christ's ordained AUTHORITY! 2Cor10:8; Tit2:15
Try reading something other than popish propaganda, swill from the gutter by atheist activists and their hack supporters, or the works of Calvinistic ideologues who substitute their own neo-Augustinian rhetoric for valid hermeneutic methodology. Neither any Vatican operative, nor partisan sectarian, nor you, nor any other opinionated eisegete has ever proven a linguistic or historical fact that refutes the verbal inerrancy of the King James Bible in English.
@Stinger4186 1Timothy 3:2 A bishop then must be blameless (NOT pedophiles), THE HUSBAND OF ONE WIFE, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach; This verse dis-qualifies any Roman Catholic who CLAIMS the "title" of Bishop.
KJB: just curious.. How do YOU intepret the verse "be obedient to all he doctrines & TRADITIONS we tell you whether orally or by letter"..? How do "you" make that out? What ur version of exegesis on that? Got an answer? Gonna ignore that? Do you know whether ur exegesis is "correct" although another fundy mite intepret it another way? Hmm?
As kaderoder wrote, "You silly catholics are fooled into worshipping and tricked into performing rituals that belong to very old Pagan cults. You then proclaim your gullibility by defending a device, of which you know very little. The Bible is very clear about the RCC. It is described by so many characteristics, that one would have to be hypnotised to ignore it."
When – if ever – did you come under the conviction that you are a lost sinner on your way to hell?
from my other mesg, I meant to put the LAST verse in John's gospel. By the way, John was a Bishop. All of the apostles were. Paul was. Barnabus, Timothy & Titus. Phlemon was. Linus & Clement were Bishops. Where do you find Bishop again? 1Tim3; Tit1:7; 1Pt2:25; Acts (elders were Bishops).. It's all there hoss
"For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect" (1Corinthians 1:17).
“Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six” (Revelation 13:18).
Rome is the great whore that straddles the beast, and you are just another lost and blind dupe of the Vatican,
KJB: A fundy is a funda"mentalist", or, someone who is outside The Church & doesn't actually "follow" the Bible. You cherry pick & ignore a lot of scripture. The parts you think you understand, you give "private" interp's of what "YOU" think it means.. Because you may think it means something, does not necessarily make it correct! Also, if Jesus did something, is that not "bible worthy"? Yet, not all He did got recorded. Ast verse of John. There's only ONE Church
How does it feel to be a Biblical illiterate like you who is also a blatant historical ignoramus but posts vile and witless defamations against regenerated believers in the Lord Jesus Christ and even worse against the inerrant King James Bible, which is the Holy Scriptures, preserved by the LORD?
By the way, Rome, the Mother of Harlots and Abominations, abandoned the Douai long before it supported Hitler’s rise to power
@Stinger4186 mentalists = a person who believes that the mind and its functions are a legitimate area of psychological research. Your definition of a mentalist does not match the dictionary (someone who is outside) AND you still have not sai what a "fundy" is. You are one messed up individual. What you should be concerned with is your soul. You are on your way to a devil's hell where all the popes are.
correction: Linus is from 2Tim4:21, not 1Tim4:21. He succeeded Peter as presiding Bishop of the Church. He was martyred by the Roman soldiers by being fed to the lions. Where's that in the Bible? It's not, yet it's still true. Not all that Jesus did got "written", scholar. Read the last verse of John. Unreal with you people. Ur a bunch of poor simpletons
Those Vatican shills like you who cherish your misleading remarks and eisegeses may in fact prefer the works of Madame Helena Blavatsky, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Dean Koontz, Inigo de Loyola, Mao Tse Tung, and Josef Ratzinger, a. k. a. Pontifex Maximus Benedictus XVI.
For the English-speaking peoples, however, the King James Bible is the Holy Scriptures, preserved by the LORD and free of errors, omissions, and additions as an irrefutable matter of historical fact
KJB: also, as I've posted before, all of the apostles, Paul, Timothy, Titus, Barnabus, Philemon, Linu (1Tim4:21) & Clement (Phil4:3) were Bishops of "The Church". Christ began THE CHURCH, & it is "tended" by the successor to Peter w/all AUTHORITY from Christ. This is Christ's holy Church. Ur a made-up assembly with "errant" exegesis, tho ur well-intended. There are many fools & ignorants in the world, even in Christian assemblies
Show me one child who was molested by a paedophile popish Romanist "clergyman," and Pontifex Maximus Benedictus XVI, a former member of the Hitler Jugend, can easily give you the names of a thousand others. Josef Ratzinger, a.k.a. the pope of Rome, the great whore, personally protected a paedophile popish Romanist "clergyman" who sodomized 200 boys in Bavaria while he was moved from one parish to another.
When--if ever--were you convinced that you are a lost sinner bound for hell?
KJB: The 55K assemblies I refer to are the fundy "assemblies" invented over the last few hundred yrs. You all interpret the Bible differently & hold no authority from Christ. You "think" you do is all. Even Jesus knows there are fools & ignorants out there. All of the NT was written by Bishops in The Church except Luke. He wasn't a Bishop. Also, you were never a Catholic. I don't believe you. Ur not even of "The Church". Ur fundy assembly isn't The Church of The Bible
@Stinger4186 I've noticed several times you referred to me as a "fundie" I'm not sure what that is. Care to elaborate?
We do have fun(dy), at times though. Just because something is true and might even be associated with the church does not mean God wants in his canon of scripture. He'll put in there what HE wants and ONLY want he wants. The deaths of the apostles, for example, are NOT recorded.(save one) So what? God didn't thik it was worthy of "scripture" I suppose, you do, God doesn't
Your constipated views and oddball perceptions of myth as "fact," irrefutable historical fact as "myth," inchoate suspicions and irrational ranting as "logic," vulgarity as "proof," and patent sophistry as "reality" already qualify you as a long-term resident of "A Clockwork Orange."
Verbally inerrant in English as a matter of historical fact, on the other hand, the King James Bible is the Holy Scriptures, preserved by the LORD, in the lingua franca of our contemporary world.
per my last comment, as Jesus was obedient to the Father. Jesus IS God! The word incarnate.. The pope is a Bishop (1Tim3; Tit1:7; 1Pt2:25; 1Tim5:17; Heb13:17; Acts -"elders"). The pope today is the 265th successor to the apostle Peter who tends the flock (Jn21:15-17; Mt16:17-19) & holds the Keys which are a symbol of AUTHORITY FROM GOD. He's a slave of Christ! THE CHURCH is Christ's Body on earth, but there's only ONE CHURCH, not 55K
@Stinger4186 There are far more than 55K Catholic churches and many of them have scores of differences between them. The Church is HIS BODY (Col. 1:24), I am IN that body, like it or not. Belonging to a particular church (like any one of those 55K(?) makes NO difference. You're In Christ or you're not. When I got saved I got into that body (I was NOT in Christ's body as a catholic) because the catholic church does not teach Biblical salvation.
kjb: you don't even follow the bible. All of the writers of the NT except LUKE were BISHOPS OF THE CHURCH. I seriously doubt you were a Catholic. You don't know any better. The Church was instituted by CHRIST, & Jesus left Peter to tend the flock as presiding Bishop. Let me ask you this, my "erudite" scholar.. What do you know about St. Mark? What's his story? Do you know how he wrote his gospel, my exgete einstein? Tell me.. I gotta see this
kjb: since ur so erudite, what does this mean: "BE OBEDIENT TO ALL THE DOCTRINES & TRADITIONS WE TELL YOU WHETHER ORALLY OR BY LETTER" 2Thes2:15... LIST EM ALL OUT. FIND EM IN THE BIBLE! I'm serious! FIND EM! What's 1Cor11:2 mean? What's 1Cor15:3? 1Cor11:23? 2Tim2:2? Come on einstein, tell me
kjb: ur exegesis of 2Cor3:3 is not correct! The Holy Sp was SPEAKING THRough THEM in their AUTHORITY. The Bible wasn't OUT YET! How often do you need to be told this? Also, look it up! It's no secret! The timelines of the written codices aren't kept a secret! Look em up. Also, the word of God not written w/ink is Sacred Tradition. B4 the written word gets written , it's SPOKEN by God. But not all was recorded. What's 2Thes2:15?
kjb: you keep quoting scripture, HOWEVER, Ur quoting the words of people who are ALREADY OF THE CHURCH! Everyone who is an author of a particular codex of the NT was a BISHOP of the Church. You simetons think they all had a bible in hand.. The 1st epistke was 50AD. The last was 59AD. The 1st written gosp was in 61AD. Unreal
KJB: you claim I don't have a Bible? I have studied Theology & the Bible for the last 20 yrs AND I teach it.. LOL. Why do you think you keep getting slam-dunked all day, & twice on the weekends? You fundy simpletons can't go head to head with me. Ur the one who doesn't "know" the bible, nor Christian history, Maynerd
@Stinger4186 No you do not have a Bible, you have a satanic perversion, ALL Catholic Bibles ARE perversions which contain PROVEN lies that can be proven in a court of law. You don't even know that the Epistles in 2 cor 3:2 ARE PEOPLE! You are a complete moron who doesn't qualify to teach daily vacation bible school, but then again you're lost and on your way to hell. In the churches I've attended you must be SAVED first and foremost BEFORE teaching anything "Bible"
AGAIN, ALL OF THE APOSTLES, PAUL, TIMOTHY, TITUS, PHILEMON, LINUS, CLEMENT, JUDE, ETC --> WRITERS OF THE NT, WERE ALL BISHOPS OF THE CHURCH!!!
The only writer who wasnt a BISHOP was LUKE! HOW DID MARK RECEIVE HIS GOSPEL? DID GOD DROP IT FROM THE SKY? DID IT LAND ON HIS BREAKFAST TABLE? DID HE RECEIVE IT IN A DREAM?
Since you are the Bible scholar, exegete, "final word" appointed by Christ with The Keys (LOL!), tell me my biblical einstein w/ all unerring exegesis & hermeneutics!
correction: Linus & Clement werent "writers" of the NT, the others were, but I meant to write BISHOPS. They were all Bishops of the Church. As God was obedient to the Father, He wasnts us to be obedient to his Church! Things dont "have" to be in the bible to be valid. Not all that Paul preached is in the Bible. Not all Jesus did is in the Bible. It's not recorded that Mark was Bishop of Alexandria and was martyred there by being dragged thru the streets behind horses! The CHURCH has AUTHORITY
KJB: you dolts think the bible fell outta the sky dontcha? Why not google this: The Council of Rome (384); the Council of Hippo (393); he Council of Carthage (397 AD).. Google the gospel of Peter, Thomas, & Mary Magdalene. Google the Acts of St John. Google the Ascension of Isaiah.. Were it not for The Church, Maynerd, ur butt wouldn't even have a Bible, & yes, You ARE A liar & you don't know any better. Ur a simpleton. Period
@Stinger4186 If you insist on calling me a liar, be prepared to prove that. I don't think you're lying... but you are decived by the satanic cult called catholism, of which I WAS a menber (growing up) and I got SAVED, as in S A V E D . I was an UNsaved Roman Catholic for 27 years and NOW a born again Bible believer for almost 25. I KNOW the difference and You, son. are as lost as a golf ball in high weeds. Now put up or shut up and also explain how YOU justify a Christ rejecting leader!!!!!!!
kjb: no, you friggin simpleton, they didn't have a BIBLE back then.. How many times does your dumbass need to be told this?! THe bible wasn't out at the time. It didn't come out until 419 AD, Maynerd.. The apostles & Paul preached the "spoken word" called Sacred Tradition. They didn so in their authority. How could Paul tell Gatians NOT to listen to other gospels in Gal 1:9? Whose authority? The authority GIVEN THEM BY GOD. There wasn't a bible back. Ur hilarious how much a simpleton you are
KJB: biblically speaking, the epistles were written BEFORE The written gospels were.. WHY then, are they parked behind the gospels if they were written FIRST?? There's a $64000 question for ya! Do you know?
@Stinger4186 Why is Job the FIRST book ever written (in the entire world) not listed first? We could ask questions like this all day long (and there are answers) but there's no point for YOU to dwell on this when 1) you're gong to hell 2) Your leader of your church is an avowed anti-Christ 3) Yuo don;t believe ANY Bible on this earth is the Word of God
KJB: What you wrote is totally incorrect, LOL! What does "THE WORD OF GOD NOT WRITTEN WITH INK" mean, einstein? (2Cor3:3) Also, "The TRADITION I rec'd from the Lord" -1Cor11:23; "That which I received (from God), I handed on to you". Read 1Cor 11:2; 2Tim2:2; "be obedient to the doctrines &TRADITIONS we 'tell' you whether orally or by letter" 2Thes2:15. What's this, SCHOLAR?
@Stinger4186 According to HIS WORDS in HIS WRITINGS (Not my opinion or yours for that matter) he claims Jesus Christ is not the Messiah. Why do you keep denying this Documented FACT! You're are as blind as a bat stumbling in backwards and you'll go to hell with the SAME DENIAL
when I write they had no written word, they had no GOSPEL, except that which was passed on by Paul & the apostles & other clergy whom they ordained. You simpletons think that they all had a bible in hand when there was no printing press, & any codex was strictly protected. You people never cease to amaze me by the lack of knowledge you have. You think in 21st century terms, not the 1st century AD. Ur not even THE CHURCH anyways!
KJB: Question: do you enjoy getting slammed dunked all day? You have no leg to stand on. Even those of the bible at the time they preached the gospel had bo written word. It was Sacred Tradition, WHICH IS ALSO THE WORD OF GOD. THAT IS "HOW" THE WRITTEN WORD GOT WRITTEN IN THE 1st PLACE. BEFORE IT WAS WRITTEN, IT WAS SPOKEN BY GOD. SACRED TRADITION & SACRED SCRIPTURE ARE NOT MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE.. Ur not a biblical scholar. By no fault of ur own you don't KNOW any better
@Stinger4186 I never said I was a Biblical scholar, I'm a student of the scriptures (Which I have in my hand) and you don't. You have a piece of satanic garbage which denies Jesus Christ (in may places) but no surprise since YOUR LEADER thinks (Papa Rat) Jesus Christ is not the Messiah oh humm
Ur a student of the scriptures? Really? THE SCRIPTURES ACCORDING TO WHOSE EXEGESIS? IS IT UR PREACHER'S VERSION OF EXEGESIS & HERMENEUTICS OF THE BIBLE? WOW! SHOULD I BELIEVE HOW UR PREACHER INTERPRETS THE BIBLE VERSUS THE OTHER FUNDAMENTALIST PREACHER DOWN THE STREET FROM YOU THAT DOESNT INTERPRET THE BIBLE THE EXACT SAME WAY AS UR PREACHER?
You people even go against the BIble! The Bible says: "There's NO part of scripture that's for private interpretation" 2Pt1:20
KJB: Really? Wow! I never knew the NT was "written" that early! No documentation of the gospel was OUT that early. Paul even says the gospel he preaches isn't written in Gal1:11-12. What does "..the WORD OF GOD NOT WRITTEN WITH INK" mean to you in2Cor3:3 mean my exegete scholar? Hmm? What's 2Tim2:2? Tit2:1? What's Tit1:7?
@Stinger4186 The Bible does NOT say the Word of NOT written in ink in 2 cor. 3:3. This is your problem. You don't have a Bible so you're screwed up and on top of that you're going to hell. You need to get saved and get yourself a real Bible and not that flap-jack piece of satanic garbage you're been told is a bible.
2Co 3:2 Ye (that's PEOPLE) are our epistle written in our hearts, known and read of all men:
2Co 3:3 Forasmuch as ye (PEOPLE not WORDS.. IDIOT) are manifestly declared to be the epistle of Christ ministered by us, written not with ink, but with the Spirit of the living God; not in tables of stone, but in fleshy tables of the heart.
Nothing whatsoever to do with the written Word of God... you stupid BLIND idiot!
KJB: Do you know who Tychicus is of Eph6:21? Guess what? He was a BISHOP who was ordained by St. Andrew the apostle & he was the bishop of Chalcedon.. Hmm. Where do you find that in the bible? Maybe that's WHY ur assembly isn't THE CHURCH b/c you exegete "scholars" who are about as sharp as a bowling ball don't know any better..
@Stinger4186 And what does this have to do with the price of tea in china?? Why be concerned about Tychicus when Pope Rat claims Jeuss Christ is not the messiah according to HIS WORDS in HIS BOOK. Not MY opinion or what you claim is a "liberal media blah blah blah" No comment? tsk tsk. I understand why, I would refuse to comment on this too if I looked to theis man as a "leader" of my church and he made comments like that.
KJB: Ur IQ couldn't fill a thimble. Hey Maynerd, have you ever wikpedia-ed Timothy, Titus, Barnabus, Philemon etc including all the apostles & Paul? Do that w/each of em.. Guess what u'll find, Maynerd? --> they were all BISHOPS in the Church. It's no secret. You simpletons try to change history as if they weren't. You sad morons don't know any better. Read 2Pet1:20, 3:16 & 1Tim3:15
@Stinger4186 Thus saith wikpedia? Not thank you, not that it's ALL wrong but there are sufficient reasons (for those who KNOW BETTER) not to "trust" wikpedia, no surprise YOU would reference it. What I want to know is how you justify your leader Claiming Jesus Christ is NOT the Messiah, referenced in the DOCUMENTED video you claim you have not watched (but I suspect you did)
That's ok, Maynerd. It doesnt matter if you look at wikipedia or not. You can stay in ur little fantasy world with all ur made-up private interps of the Bible with no authority from Jesus to do so. I know ur well intentioned, but u simpletons lack a scholarly look at history & the early Church. U all think the Bible dropped outta the sky. It was the Church in the 1st place that compiled the chosen books. Hey Maynerd, how come the gospels of Peter, Thomas, Mary Magdalene didnt get included?
@Stinger4186 so, NOT looking to wickedpedia means you're living in a fantasy world? (cukoo cukoo fruitcake alert here) Are you a zionist? Have stock in the website? What kind of idiotic statement is that? There is a 1peter and a 2Peter in my Bible. Thomas and mary Magdalene are NOT inspired so not included
KJB: My point is, even wickipedia is an online encyclopedia. It's not "biased".
Also, Consider this: I ask you a question like, "Do you follow the Bible?" You respond yes. Then I ask you why then do you overlook much of the BIble? This is WHY i responded to you before that you dont even "follow" the Bible! You only "cherry pick" verses like every other protestant assembly outside of the Church, AND you give errant "private" exegesis of the Bible. You mean well, but ur exegesis is way off
Have you ever read Jesus' words in Mt 23:31-37? Read verse 37 several times.. Also, Lk 11:42-52
Whoredoms, fornications, scarlets, purples, gold, jewels, incense, chariots, fine linens, wax, fine wood plagues (Ez14) etc etc can ALL be found in the OT re: JERUSALEM. In fact, 1/3 of the OT os God's displeasure of Jerusalem. Start with Ex 24 onward. Go to 1&2 Kings, Ezek, Isa, Jeremiah, Amos & u'll see that all of this is re: JERUSALEM. That place was a cesspool of wickedness
There's NO WAY that the pope would make that claim! He is PETER'S SUCCESSOR AS THE PRESIDING BISHOP OF THE CHURCH! THE CHURCH CANNOT GIVE A FALSE DOGMA! I havent seen ur video, but it's either tampered with by someone dubbing their voice over the pontiff's! The pope is a BISHOP & the 264th successor to the apostle. All Bishops in the Church are successors to the apostles
@Stinger4186 No way he would make such a claim?? Well, he did and I provided the documented evidence and am asking YOU to comment. NOT seeing the video will make that impossible... so WATCH the video.... sigh.... Being brought up Catholic I know all about what the cat church teaches and not just from my study AS a Christian but from personal experience BEING a Catholic. Thank God many of my Catholic friends / relatives got saved... your turn
Thers is NO WAY you were ever a Catholic! There's no other CHURCH. You belong to an assembly outside THE CHURCH, & I seriously doubt that the pope, the successor to the apostle Peter & slave of Christ, would EVER claim Jesus isnt the Messiah. I simply dont believe it, & Im not going to watch your Romper Room video that was probably made by the liberal media. You're about as much a Catholic as hitler was a rabbi. You're intelligience couldnt fill a thimple. I babysit you in here, Maynerd
@Stinger4186 Name calling is one thing, now you're calling me a Liar!. Your treading in deep water now...
You say "PROBABLY made by.." when you DON'T KNOW, You doing a good job showing yourself to me the moron you are. You're like a monkey with his fingers in his ears refusing to see any evidence that shatters his cherished delusions.
Got saved? There's no other Church, Maynerd. You're a Baptist? Look up John Smyth. He "invented" that assembly in the 1600s. He originally was from England then moved to Amsterdam. He had a "following" based on his charisma & "private" interpretive analysis of the Bible, a book compiled by THE CHURCH in the 1st place.. You poor souls are a bunch of simpletons. You mean well, but you're sharp as a bowling ball. You have no "authority" given to you by GOD. That authority is THE CHURCH
@Stinger4186 Getting saved is so easy a child can do it. Getting saved is NOT dependent on what some "church claims" but what God says (The Bible) The Bible says that God has exalted HIS WORD above is his OWN NAME so nothing is more important than that, including the Church or should I say.. what YOU CALL "the church" I've been saved for 25 years, not you or any pope can do anything about that. sorry, I am not only saved but I'm seated (right now) in heavenly places with him.
KJB: Let's see just WHAT Jesus says about THE CHURCH: "HE WHO DOES NOT 'HEAR' THE CHURCH LET HIM BE AS A 'HEATHEN' & A PUBLICAN" -Mt18:17-18
All infallible truth, Maynerd, COMES THRU THE ONE CHURCH! Again, if something's NOT in the bIble to placate you, it DOESNT MATTER! The word of God comes in TWO WAYS: The SPOKEN WORD & THE WRITTEN WORD. Before the WRITTEN word was put into WRITING, Maynerd, GOD HAD TO SPEAK IT first! But, NOT ALL of God's word got WRITTEN! 2Cor3:3; Gal1:11-12; Isa55:11
"The gospel I preach has not been given by any MAN, but a revelation of Jesus Christ Gal1:11-12 ("written" that is; the written gosp wasnt out YET, Maynerd!)
"Be obedient to all the doctrines & TRADITIONS we tell u whether orally or by letter". Again, the "spoken" word
Again, "Parathisos" means "Tradition". (Note: THIS IS NOT THE SAME AS HUMAN TRADITIONS FOR THE ZILLIONTH TIME!) --> Sacred Tradition, "Parathisos" is the "spoken word of God that the apostles had when they went out evangelizing & growing THE CHURCH. They HAD no Bible back then! They were the 1st BISHOPS. The Church came BEFORE the NT, not AFTER! The hagiographers of the NT already were Bishops "OF" THE CHURCH overseen by Peter. Linus succeeded Peter as presiding Bishop. Clement was pope #4
@Stinger4186 The Written Word is the FINAL Word, no longer do we need to rely on the spoken Word since the canon is NOW (Got that) NOW COMPLETE. Now, you either stop talking down to me or you get banned. First, last and final warning. I am tired of weeding though your insults in trying to figure out what you are saying. Maynerd, simpleton and other assorted UNNECESSARY "digs" will result in a ban. got that? ok
KJB: No it's not. Jesus never said that in the NT, and it's not written as such in the Old Testament. See? This is what I mean. You ignorant fundies dont KNOW any better. Jesus continues to speak today through His Church. What's bound on earth is bound in heaven. Jesus said to His apostles before they even had a BIBLE, "He who does not HEAR the CHurch, let him be as a heathen & a publican." The CHURCH came before the NT was written, not after, & those that wrote it were "OF" The Church! BIshops!
Also, Maynerd, there was NO compiled BIble for 400 yrs after Christ! The Bible isnt the "authority" insofar as it's NO ONE'S authority but the CHurch to give the exegesis of the scriptures! NOT ur assembly that is OUTSIDE THE CHURCH! See yet? Jesus gave your assembly NO Authority. Ur assemb.y was invented c. 1600 by John Smyth in Amsterdam! Jesus gave Authority to His Church in c. 33AD, my simpleness. That's Mt16:17-19; 2Cor10:8; Heb13:17; 1Pt5:1-5; Mt18:17-18
@Stinger4186 Incorrect, Peter said we have a MORE SURE WORD and that was a reference to the WRITTEN Word in CONTRAST to actually HEARING form God personally. Peter spent time with Jesus Christ (like all the apostles) and heard DIRECTLY from him (can't get any better than that!!) so any "verbal" word is TRUMPTED by the WRITTEN Word. The book of revelations is the OBVIOUS "CONCLUSION" so NO other additional "canon" exists and that includes "claims" which ALL the cults like to "claim" "they" have
KJB: why not go to zenit.com, Maynerd. You can see the daily dossiers coming each day from the Vatican. It's free. U'll see the words of bishop pope Benedikt. He speaks the words of Christ. Hey Maynerd, again ur trailer park assembly is NOT the Church of the Bible. You poor simpletons "think" it is.. Ur wrong. You don't know any better, 135 IQ! LOL
@Stinger4186 Did you watch the video evidence? Documented PROOF that papa RAT is an Anti-Christ? What kind of a "good Catholic" are you? Not to spend 7 minutes watching it so that you could intelligently tell me HOW it's wrong, fake, etc. Missing the intelligence to do so? Yep, thought so. You've spent more than 7 minutes calling be derogatory names. (Typical of those with nothing to say and not very bright)
kjb: ur like a little girl.. Benedikt is a slave of Jesus Christ. You go about this mantra that the pope is the anti-Christ. I seriously doubt ur IQ is 135. LOL. Yeah, & I'm the easter bunny if ur IQ is that high.. The pope is a BISHOP, he holds The Keys, & he is Peter- successor. Don't like it? Doesn't matter
@Stinger4186 Slave yes, of Satan since he says Jesus Christ is "Not necessarily the Messiah" HIS WORDS, not mine. Watch the Proof and stop being such a weasel.
You sit there and pose all these EX-Catholic "writers" and apostates and, like I said in an earlier post, you ignore questions posed to you by giving more Anti-Catholic blatherings. Like I also said, you will not be able to have your prejudiced, hateful outlook when you are before the Throne of Christ, ALONE. There won't be any turning around to blame the Catholics THERE with your finger pointing. It'll be more of a ONE on one. I'll continue to pray for you. God bless!
bheadh 1 month ago
@bheadh I am very well aware of the Judgement seat of Christ in which ALL Christians will be judged for what they did. (1Cor. 3:12-15)
I will NOT be judged at the Great White throne judgement where all the LOST people will be judged (Rev. 20:11,12)
That said, I will be (as a Christian) judged for NOT telling others about the Catholic church as it is called MYSTERY Babylon (Rev. 17) and ALL the "mysteries" are to be proclaimed as "GOOD STEWARDS" are supposed to do. (1Cor. 4:1)
KingJamesBible 1 month ago
@KingJamesBible Boy, you've got God all wrapped up and ready to submit to where YOU THINK you're going to be in HIS heaven. I guess you think you can will yourself right up in the front seat, "As a wise master builder might do" .."FIRE will test the quality of EACH mans worth". You keep on bringing up the Judgement of Revelation, like you're God, or going to be throwing people into hell yourself. You're not MY judge or anyone elses. No matter how much you condescend and belittle people. I pray4U
bheadh 1 month ago
@bheadh "FIRE will test the quality of EACH mans worth"
1Cor3:13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.
1Cor.3:15 If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but HE HIMSELF SHALL BE SAVED; yet so as by fire.
The WORKS burn, NOT the man. Christian's judgement for what they did, not any determination on IF a man will be saved (going to heaven)
KingJamesBible 1 month ago
@KingJamesBible Just remember the "he shall suffer loss but he himself will be saved, YET SO AS BY FIRE part. You don't know exactly what "burns" because you havn't been there yet, (there you go claiming to know what goes on in GODS heaven) you know, in front of Christs judgement seat, alone. You sure do take alot of liberties with The Word. You will be judged as you judge others. I'd remember that one too.
bheadh 1 month ago
@bheadh "You don't know exactly what "burns" "
It's a clear as the nose on your face if you can READ, can you read?
Every man's WORK shall be made manifest
The WORK is manifested of what SORT it is. God is judgeing the work of the Christian, the "sort" will show MOTIVES. Corinthians is wriiten to CHRISTIANS, not lost folks. The white throne judgement (in revelation) is for LOST folks, it's written to whosoever will read it.
KingJamesBible 1 month ago
Yeah, we all see what kind of "works" you do (by just looking at your prideful and pompous rhetoric...but like you said earlier thats my (pegogative) and they aren't holy. You have so much faith in your "whisked away" fantasy, now you're claiming to seat yourself in Gods heaven and use condemnation and abuse of anyone that disagrees with you.as your so-called calling cards. You twist scripture , without explaining ANYTHING.. I'll serve God. Rather than watch you destroy peoples faith in Christ
bheadh 1 month ago
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Yeah, we all see what kind of "works" you do (by just looking at your prideful and pompous rhetoric...but like you said earlier thats my (pegogative) and they aren't holy. You have so much faith in your "whisked away" fantasy, now you're claiming to seat yourself in Gods heaven and use condemnation and abuse of anyone that disagrees with you.as your so-called calling cards. You twist scripture , without explaining ANYTHING.. I'll serve God. Rather than watch you destroy peoples faith in Christ
bheadh 1 month ago
Where do you get your "statistics"? Out of a population of 305 million in Africa 145 million are Catholic. Nigeria has the largest seminary in the world. Catholicism is the fastest growing Church, there and in Asia.(do your own research, it's obvious that you haven't. More RC martyrs in the 20th than ALL previous centuries combined. (mostly in China) So, I guess Mother Teresa wanted to "control" the "poorest of the poor" to cntrol their lives before they died? C'mon.
bheadh 1 month ago
All anyone has to do is read the Bible and Know the catholic church is way off the Mark..the streets ran with Blood becasue of Catherine de Medici in France..give me a break..the Catholic Church burnt Johnathan Huss alive slowly over a fire for preaching the Gospel message..and Jesuits are scary and at least 50% of them are Homosexuals in Gonzaga..a Priest told me that..so you can defend the Catholic church all you want but you need to clean house and seek purity and holiness in the word of God.
doobersmanster 1 month ago
@doobers Amen, sadly many Catholics are blind and do not even consider their bloody murdereous history.
KingJamesBible 1 month ago
@KingJamesBible yep//I think Tyndales death was perticularily horrible to, considering that he was such an incredible mind, speaking at least 9 languages so fluently that you could not even tell an accent. But Catholics calm there conscience through works and ritual, instead of Obedience and scripture..:(..they do not believe in the sufficiency of Christ and his work on the cross..very unfortunate."It is so hard to believe because it is so hard to obey". Soren Kierkegaard
doobersmanster 1 month ago
@KingJamesBible How about King Henry VIII "murderous and bloody history"? Executing anyone who stood in his way, just so he could divorce his wife (which is FORBIDDEN by Christ) and then having the "next" wife executed? How about the "murderous and bloody history" of Oliver Cromwell? 100,000 innocent people were murdered by his "army".Brush up on your history pal.
bheadh 1 month ago
@bheadh I could care less about henry the VIII, he has nothing to do with the Bible and your Cromwell accusation is eroneous. On the other hand, consider the conservative estimate of 50,000,000 people murdered by the Catholic church (approx, 550 ad - 1945) and documented by many sources including and especially by official Roman Catholic sources and Roman Catholic writers.
New Schaff Herzog encyclopedia of religious knowledge 1908, The catholic encyclopedia 1907 + many more
KingJamesBible 1 month ago
The catholic church is nothing but paganism with a thin veneer of Christianity over it....David Hunt
doobersmanster 1 month ago in playlist More videos from KingJamesBible
You inspire hatred and dis-unity among Christians (not very Christ like is it?). You base your agenda on what you've "heard" not on the facts of history. Christ also asked us to love our enemies and pray for those who persecute you..etc. (I pray for you, do you for me? honestly..b4 you read this, have you prayed for me?, doubt it) You condemn and judge others as if YOU were God, you're not. Maybe when you answer all the questions people have asked here truthfully MAYBE people wil take it serious
bheadh 1 month ago
@bheadh "You inspire hatred and dis-unity among Christians"
What Christians would that be? Christians all thoughout history have preached against the Roman Catholic government and their pagan religiosity. To NOT to do so is a sin.
KingJamesBible 1 month ago
@KingJamesBible "All throughout history"? Like who, bfore 1520? We've already discussed the "Albigensians" (you know, the GNOSTICS) You are so blinded by your prejudices that you forget the message "to love one another as I have loved you". You still haven't answered the question of how Christianity (where your very "church" came from) spread throughout Europe in the years after Christ? If the Church "changed" which "church" took it's place? Anyone?
bheadh 1 month ago
Geez... aren't you tired of all this puerile talk??
It's time to GROW UP... stop being a child.
The Catholic Church is the Church founded by Christ on Peter (Mt 16.18-19). The lineage of Catholic bishops today goes HISTORICALLY back to the Apostles. That is simply a fact.
Sorry, but Jesus promised his Church would never err.
You have been blinded by the wicked actions of wicked men who CALLED THEMSELVES Catholics. Every one of your critics has nothing to do with the REAL Catholic Teachings.
Gazdo01 1 month ago
@Gazdo01 "Sorry, but Jesus promised his Church < (?) (huh??) would never err."
Chapter and verse... please.
KingJamesBible 1 month ago
@KingJamesBible
Tu es Petrus, et super hanc petram ædificabo Ecclesiam meam, et portæ inferi non prævalebunt adversus eam.
The Church is CHRIST'S BODY. It will NEVER perish, nor will it fail.
St John Chrysostom said that Hell is paved will bishop's skulls. Why? Because he was preoccupied with the wicked attitude of the people who called themselves the successors of Christ, yet conducted themselves unworthily. Stop criticizing THE CHURCH, you're mixing up two completely different things.
Gazdo01 1 month ago
@KingJamesBible yeah no doubt.. but the scripture does say to watch out for wolves in sheeps clothing..:) I love Catholics and I respect them, but come on..the Bible has tobe our final authority..if not than anything can go and people like Bishop Skilstad and Morning star Boys ranch, and the dead baby cemetary in Spain and on and on will just happen again. The priests are no better than anyone. They are no different and should be judged by the standard the Bible and not the vatican.
doobersmanster 1 month ago
@doobersmanster "Bible has tobe our final authority"
Sorry friend, but Sola Scriptura has no scriptural basis... What a contradiction, don't you think?
Of course the Bible is a IMPORTANT and MAJOR authority... but don't forget Sacred Tradition and the Magistarium.
Not EVERYONE can speak for the Church. The protestants have 40 000 more popes than the Catholics do.
"The priests are no better than anyone"
The priest's authority doesn't come from who he is, but from the grace he's recieved.
Gazdo01 1 month ago
Albegensians are around today. They are NOT Christian. They have a gnostic faith. AS A "CHRISTIAN" DON'T YOU KNOW THIS? The Catholic Church was The Church instituted by Christ. If The Holy Spirit wasn't with The Church during the "dark ages" how, then did it convert the whole of the middle east & Europe during the "dark" age? Which "church" replaced it and converted Europe? You can get all the false claims of heretics from the middle ages all you want and other so called "researchers". It's fals
bheadh 1 month ago
@bheadh The Catholic church is a political heirarchy with Satan at the very head. It appears as "christian" to the world. You must be of the world since you actually think this is some type of "christian" institutiion. The true church was persecuted BY this wicked pedophile, organization and it is by the Christians the church has prospered. Many forget that it was Christians who were preaching to the likes of Martin Luther when he went for his walks through the providence.
KingJamesBible 1 month ago
@KingJamesBible Yes this "institution" feeds the most people and IS the biggest charity organization in the world. All people are sinners. Even the pope. I already see you are of the world because you judge others You won't be able to blame Catholics when you are before the Lord ALONE. Which "true Church" are you talking about? The Lutherans? the Methodists? None of these were around before 1500. The "albegensians" are a self described gnostic faith. Persecute us now. they'll be after YOU next
bheadh 1 month ago
@bheadh The Catholic church may indeed feed some people to get "control" of those them. It's not any different than any other governement (Vatican is a government) GIVING out "HANDOUTS" to get control over them. It's happening right now in the USA as an example.
KingJamesBible 1 month ago
@KingJamesBible Riiiiight! There must be NEWS of this "control"...Where is this happening "in the U.S."? Nobody converts to a religion to be "controlled" and for the last 3 years the R.C.C. has had the MOST converts of all "christian" churches & mostly from those "churches". Listen to Dr. Scott Hahn ( a former protest-ant minister) No answers for my last set of questions!!!! Maybe you should brush up on your HISTORY so you have a leg to stand on. You contradict your own posts here .
bheadh 1 month ago
@bheadh "Where is this happening "in the U.S."?" Are you joking? There are scores of volumes written documenting this. If you're looking for CNN to tell you.. forget it.
Here's a start >
The Vatican Moscow Washington Alliance by Avro Manhattan
KingJamesBible 1 month ago
@KingJamesBible Oh yeah, thanks for agreeing with me on the R.C.C. being the most charitable (charity means love) organization on the face of the planet. Christ asked The Father at the last supper "that they may be ONE as You and I are ONE". I don't think Christ had in mind that his flock would be 30,000 "churches" as today. Did you do the research on the sorcerer "king" James? Martin Luther , by the way, was a anti-semite and took 7 books OUT of the bible, he wanted to take out James as well.
bheadh 1 month ago
@bheadh Calling the Catholic church "charitable" is like calling ANY government charitable. It's done to gain confidence (and reliance) from people to ultimately get control over thier lives. It has nothing to do with giving them the Gospel so that they can be saved... like a Christian outreach will do.
KingJamesBible 1 month ago
@KingJamesBible Yes the Vatican is one of the wealthiest Sovreign nations in the world and represented as a nation state in the United nations. It is crazy how much wealth the RCC has.
doobersmanster 1 month ago in playlist More videos from KingJamesBible
@doobersmanster Friend, the Catholic Church has been LOOSING MONEY for years.
More than 80% of it's supposed "wealth" comes from its possessions, i.e. estate... that is churches, colleges, hospitals, convents, ETC.
The Book of Acts teaches how Christians shared all they had. The Catholic Church being the largest christian denomination in the world, it is only expected that it is the "wealthiest". That being said, the Catholic Church is also THE MOST charitable organisation in the world.
Gazdo01 1 month ago
@Gazdo01 Ok :) I am not denying that the catholic church does a lot of good things..I am from eastern Washington and whether we are catholic or not we all love our Gonzaga Bulldogs:) Spokane is full of Catholics and Irish, My aunt was Catholic:)..I believe that the Catholic churches wealth is < yes, in real estate holdings predominatly. I am a Bible Lover and I know that many things are not correct according to the Bible, such as a seperate Priesthood (nicolaitian).
doobersmanster 1 month ago
@doobersmanster Friend, the Catholic Church has assembled the Bible. The whole life of the Church is based on the Bible.
Biblical Interpretation and The Liturgy : /watch?v=aBb3644HCmc
Gazdo01 1 month ago
@Gazdo01 Not really..if that was true then why is the catholic church neck deep in the ecumenical movement? Why do they take a vow of celebacy, poverty? why do they use pagan imagery and ritual? I mean ther is too much to list..I love catholics though and just think they have been decieved. to me it is very sad, becasue A lot of Catholics are the nicest people you will ever meet in your life:) like you:)
doobersmanster 1 month ago
@doobersmanster "All anyone has to do is read the Bible and Know the catholic church is way off the Mark"
Oh geez... Where to begin? My best advice to you is READ the Church Fathers, READ what the Church actually teaches, READ what are the BASIS for all we teach, and please dont rely on what you've been told. If you are honnest, if you really want to learn, then you'll turn to the great Catholic figures and models, not to the opponents of the Church. That being said, let's begin...
Gazdo01 1 month ago
@doobersmanster 1. Celibacy. What is intrinsically wrong with it? As a Catholic, I believe Christ is the absolute model, an example for humanity. More than that: I believe he was the PERFECT MAN. So, why do you criticize celibacy? Wasn't Jesus celibate?Did Jesus specifically say that those who CAN remain celibates SHOULD indeed remain celibate ? (Mt 19.12)
A priest acts "in persona Christi", that is, in the name, and with the authority, of Christ.
Gazdo01 1 month ago
@doobersmanster Therefore, are your surprised some men are freely ready to live a celibate life? Where does the word CELIBACY come from? Two latin words: caelum and habitare... Which mean the "one who lives in Heaven". And indeed, what did Jesus taught about humans after they die? That we will live like angels, without getting married.
What did Jesus ask of his disciples? To leave EVERYTHING behind and follow Him. It is a great challenge to love your Lord with ALL your heart, yet marry.
Gazdo01 1 month ago
@doobersmanster But, you'll be happy to know something knew... I bet you didn't know that NOWHERE does the Catholic Church teach that celibacy is a necessity for priests. Indeed, if you look at Eastern Catholics, married men can become priest. In the West, absolue celibacy is a matter of tradition. But I repeat, nowhere does the Church DOGMATICALLY teach that religious people have to remain celibates.
Gazdo01 1 month ago
@doobersmanster Also, the Catholic Tradition teaches that Paul is the Greatest of all Apostles. He too remained celibate. Was he wrong?? Au contraire!
What does Paul teach? What about those who CAN remain celibate, LIKE HIM... not only is it a good thing that they remain that way, but they SHOULD ! (1 Cor 7.8) It's even BETTER (7.38)
What is the meaning of the words CONSACRATED LIFE? People who fully give themselves to the Lord... Try and meditate on this tradition, passed on till today.
Gazdo01 1 month ago
@doobersmanster 2. Poverty. Did you watch the video I've sent you? The Catholic Church doesn't teach poverty per say. There is nothing wrong with money, as long as it doesn't become our priority, nor the center of your spiritual life. Please find me where the Catholic Church teaches dogmatically that we should live in POVERTY?
On the other hand, what did Jesus teach? Lk 18.25... And, in order to be PERFECT, get rid of ALL POSSESSIONS (Mt 19.21) and follow Him.
Gazdo01 1 month ago
@doobersmanster What does Thomas Aquinas say about this?
"Now poverty has no intrinsic goodness, but is good only because it is useful to remove the obstacles which stand in the way of the pursuit of spiritual perfection." And that cupidity, vain glory, and excessive solicitude are the three obstacles which riches put in the way of acquiring perfection.
Sorry, Catholics follow Jesus, no one other: "Everyone of you that doth not renounce all that he possesseth, cannot be my disciple" Lk 14.33
Gazdo01 1 month ago
@doobersmanster 3. Pagan imagery. That is WAY TOO COMPLEX to discuss here. All I have to say is that this subject has been solved for the past 1200 years.
Sorry for suggesting LECTURE, but you should really READ this : newadvent (dot) org/cathen/07664a (dot) htm
Also, very easy to find on the Internet: SUMMA THEOLOGIAE, by St Thomas Aquinas. Go to Part IIIa, Question 25, Article 3.
There you will find a RATIONNAL and BIBLICAL case for the veneration of images.
Gazdo01 1 month ago
@doobersmanster 4. Ritual?? What's wrong with them? The Jewish tradition is filled with rituals. Being the Great Continuity of the Jewish Tradition, we Catholics also have Great Rituals.
Gazdo01 1 month ago
@doobersmanster 5. Ecumenism? Ok, what wrong with that? As Catholics, we believe we are instrusted with the WHOLE TRUTH of Revelation. Does that mean that everyone else is 100% wrong? No... There are RAYS OF TRUTH in every philosophy. God being the creator of ALL MANKIND, humans being created in the IMAGE OF GOD, I expect truths in every culture around the world. We are LUMEN GENTILUM... a "Light to the Nations". Read the encyclical...
Plus, this might be insightfull: /watch?v=roum4zbJ8ZQ
Gazdo01 1 month ago
@doobersmanster Friend, some years ago, I too was exactly like you: surrounded by anti-Catholic friends and false propaganda. I had just lost my father, and turned to christianity for some spiritual comfort. I began reading carefully the Bible and was convinced the Church was wrong, that it didn't carry the AUTHENTIC faith. So, I sought for myself. I wanted to find out what the first christians were like, what had led to this christian REVOLUTION in the first century, in the Roman Empire.
Gazdo01 1 month ago
@doobersmanster Going back to the roots, I began reading the Apostollic Fathers, like Clement of Rome, Ignatius of Antioch, Polycarpus of Smyrna, Papias...Why? Because they were disciples of the Apostles themselves, and they lives at a time when the Gospels didn't even exist. When I finished, I was led to the Church Fathers... There aren't too many of those, but WOW it just blew my mind. Such knowledge, such wisdom... And a love for God that I couldn't find anywhere else.
Gazdo01 1 month ago
@doobersmanster I read about the great heresies, like Arianism, Marcionism, Nestorianism, Monachism, Donatism, Monophysitism, ETC ETC, who all pretended to be authentic Christianity, but were STRONGLY opposed by... The Catholic Church.That is when I got interested in the Church Councils, which defined the great dogmas of our faith (that you and I share). That led me to the Cathecism, and the Encyclicals, and to the lifes of great SAINTS.
I simply fell in love with the CC, the bride of Christ.
Gazdo01 1 month ago
@doobersmanster Here's something you might find very insightfull:
/watch?v=EOaJTObCsLs
Gazdo01 1 month ago
This is ridiculous. Do the research and see for yourself how your "KJV" was produced. I'll give you a hint. James I (VI of Scotland) was a known homosexual and sorcerer. He had another KNOWN sorcerer (even today this is said to be true) John Dee travel to Venice to consult with kabbalistic Jews to conjure up...you guessed it..the "KJV". I do not think Christ wanted His Church to constantly be under the threat of the Romans. This is false history. Christianity spread throughout Europe "dark age"
bheadh 1 month ago
@bheadh King James unjustly accused - Stephen A. Coston, sr.
. Read it and learn some facts. There is not a chance in hell James was a queer or a sorcerer. It was the Roman Catholic Jesuit order that tried to STOP the King James Bible... dummy. You never herad of Guy Fawlks? They still celebrate his day in England.
KingJamesBible 1 month ago
@KingJamesBible Just becuase 1(modern) guy writes a book that James wasn't gay or a sorcerer doesn't make it untrue.. (I noticed you didn't comment on the "albegensian" issue) All the other historians claim he was. I also noticed you resort to name calling. Says alot about you. When Martin Luther (a heretical Catholic priest...so was Calvin) and Henry the VIII left the Church (the ONLY Church in western Europe for 1500 years) it started the breakdown of Christianity. Now we have 30,000.Churches
bheadh 1 month ago
@bheadh In the Bible, the majority are wrong... in the Bible.. you understand. Everything should be based on what God said, not our "human" "understanding"
King James detested queers and only AFTER he was dead (and couldn't defend himself) did the JESUITS make these claims A denomination does not make up a "Church". PEOPLE make up the church. There have been and will always be saved people in almost any "denomination" but that is SPITE of what that demonation may teach, not BECAUSE of it.
KingJamesBible 1 month ago
@bheadh A;; Martin Luther and Calvin did was read the Bible...maybe you should too and you will come to the same conclusion as they did..they did not want to divide the Church..neither did erasimus, and he stayed Catholic. They just chose God and his word over the RCC. I think they made the hard choice and the right one..I hope you will too someday. The reformation was not about destroying the Priesthood, but establishing it to all beleivers in Jesus Christ. 1st peter 2:9
doobersmanster 1 month ago
@doobersmanster "They didn't want to divide the Church"? Are you serious? M. Luther was given every opportunity to stay in the Church, he didn't. So every believer is a priest? That is why we have 30,000 + "churches" today. Every "preacher" and his brother has the opportunity now to be his OWN "priest" with his OWN agenda. By the way, NONE of these "priests" agree with each other on dogmatic issues. Christ prayed to the Father that the Church may be ONE and it was for over 1000 years, not 30,000
bheadh 1 month ago
The Catholic Church is the only church came from the First church, Saint Peter was the first Pope. The History of the Church is and always been there, for almost 2000 years. You can can believe whatever you want to believe. All other churches started after the Catholic church. Later on they named the Church Catholic, which came from the greek word and means universal and a Lifestyle.
joannelarcher 3 months ago
JESUS SAVES!!
Tommy5297 4 months ago
great video
benzion888 7 months ago
The catholic church is the way of truth and is the orignal Church of Jesus Christ.
joannelarcher 8 months ago
@joannelarcher yes, common error and the reason for this video for clarification.
KingJamesBible 8 months ago
Jesus is the only way, truth and life. we dont need anyone except Jesus to be saved
southernsales777 8 months ago
@southernsales777 Amen and Amen
KingJamesBible 8 months ago
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zetetikos123 10 months ago
Any one here knows Bro Eli Soriano?
zetetikos123 10 months ago
@zetetikos123 Never heard of him until now, anything in particular you would like us to know?
KingJamesBible 10 months ago
@KingJamesBible Because he is a bible preacher.
zetetikos123 10 months ago
also, KJB, priests in certain Rites in The Church may marry, ie, the Byzantine, Melkite, & Maronite Rites. Only in the Latin Rite they may not unless given a special dispensation by a Bishop, like a married episcopal minister who wants to enter THE CHURCH & be a priest may get a dispensation. "What you bind on earth is bound in heaven" -Jesus. This is BOUND w/God. You disagree? Doesn't matter. Ur OUTSIDE THE ONLY CHURCH THERE IS !!
Stinger4186 11 months ago
@Stinger4186 "MAY" marry based on what? "special dispensation" Does he give "special dispensation" for all those pedaphiles as well?? What about the current pope who (IN HIS WORDS) denies Jesus Christ as the Messiah!! Still not going to comment on that PROVEN FACT from HIS WORDS, not some conspiracy or what I think or what some fundamentalist thiks, WHAT HE SAID!!!!! You like to squirm away from this and cannot address it as it shows what a complete JOKE the entire Catholic cult really is.
KingJamesBible 11 months ago
@KJB:
He "may" should he desire to be married, einstein. Also, The POPE never said that Jesus Christ was NOT the Messiah! That's how you losers interpret him saying, but he never said that
Look, the Church was begun by Jesus; He ordained the apostles as His 1st Bishops. The NT wasnt even written yet. The NT was written by BISHOPS "of" THE CHURCH. The Church came before the NT was written, not after. Im amazed at the millions of stupid people that dont see this. U dont even follow the Bible
Stinger4186 10 months ago
@Stinger4186 "U dont even follow the Bible " Let me translate this for you. You don't follow the Bible AS the Roman Catholic church DICTATES IT., but the fact is I follow it for what it SAYS. Big Difference. This is why the Roman Church BANNED (for hundreds of years as long as they could GET AWAY WITH IT) people from reading it as they would CLEARLY see the LIES and frabrications the Roman Catholic church CLAIMS.
KingJamesBible 10 months ago
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@KingJamesBible This is why the Roman Church BANNED (for hundreds of years as long as they could GET AWAY WITH IT) people from reading it as they would CLEARLY see the LIES and frabrications the Roman Catholic church CLAIMS. >>> WRONG. Because people would see all ther NONSENSE in the bible. And that is exactly what happened when they allowed people to read the bible.
tallliza 6 months ago
JJ: you don't follow the bible, though..
"He who hears YOU hears ME" -Jesus to His apostles, the 1st bishops..
"laying on of hands & ordaining othrs by elders (bishops)" -Acts
"office of Bishop" 1Tim3
"a bishop is God's steward" -Tit1:7
"elders (Bishops) that RULE well are worthy of double honor" -1Tim5:17
"He who does not hear THE CHURCH, let him be as a heathen & a publican" -Jesus. There's ONE CHURCH, not 55K "assemblies"
Stinger4186 11 months ago
@Stinger4186
Try writing something truthful for a change after you have been taught to read in any language.
You are wrong again, and as RainhadoCanto4 put it so succinctly, "And that could not have been more appropriate, for EVERYTHING THAT COMES OUT OF THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH IS UNCLEAN, its POPES PROSTITUTING IT at every turn, kissing Korans, taking the Sign of the Tilak, bowing in mosques, placing Buddha atop the "tabernacle," making their prayer sites INTERFAITH, such as Fatima..."
jjpetkusiii 9 months ago
KJB: Bishops & priests were married up through the 12th century, so yes, at the time of this letter, bishops could marry. "What YOU bind on earth is bound in heaven" -Jesus to Peter, Mt16:17-19.. This changed due to Mt19:12 & 1Cor7:32.
"Next"
Stinger4186 11 months ago
@Stinger4186 I see, so *some* catholic bishops followed the Bible on this ONE point (for a while) but no longer, but that's OK because, we (the Catholic church) are given "specail revelation" (CULT ALERT!! CULT ALERT!!) to change it at OUR whim. and you actually "used" a verse completlyl OUT OF CONTEXT to justify it.... Oh brother!
KingJamesBible 11 months ago
KJB: Again, by no fault of ur own are you outside The Church of the Bible. You don't actually follow the words of Christ, Paul & Peter.. A fundamentalist is s.o who is outside The Church & belongs to an "invented" assembly that came about in the last few centuries since the 1600s is all. No authority from God
Stinger4186 11 months ago
@Stinger4186 You are a complete FOOL (or should I say TOOL), a fundamentalist is someone who believes the fundamentals DUH, I like your PRIVATE definition as given above, spoken like a jesuit priest.
KingJamesBible 11 months ago
Luther removed 7 books from the Septuagint & kept the Hebrew Canon (only 39 books of the OT when the Septuagint is 46 books). Luther removed 7 books from the original bible b/c "he" thought they weren't necessary! He added the word "alone" to Rom3:28, & that word was not part of Paul's letter where he said "we're saved by faith". Luther added "faith alone", & that's FALSE!
Stinger4186 11 months ago
@Stinger418 Unlike the slanderous contempo cultists and deluded of the ungodly and popish revisionist ilk manifestly given over to sophistry and vain deceit, the linguistic geniuses and world-class prodigies who translated the Old and New Testaments into the exemplary English of the King James Bible were masters of their native tongue as well as Greek and Hebrew.
No factual error in the Biblical text of the AV1611 has ever been proven by anyone in 400 years.
jjpetkusiii 11 months ago
also, you wrote the "canon of scripture". I'm impressed you actually know this term! Of which, didja know luther removed the Septuagint from the original bible that had been in existence over a thousand yrs? He had some balls to do that & that's forbidden. He compiled his "own" bible w/ no authority, by removing & adding to scripture. The KJV is basically a stepchild of luther's gutenberg bible. Parts added & removed w/ no authority from GOD to do so!!
Stinger4186 11 months ago
@Stinger4186
Modern apostasy recapitulates Satan's words to Eve in Eden: "Yea hath God said...?" To lead lambs astray and hold lost men and women in bondage, Rome (the Mother of Harlots and Abominations according to Revelation 17) has through sophistry, murder, intimidation, censorship, deceit, and every manner of wicked device over the centuries promoted its corrupt mistranslation of the Holy Scriptures along with the vile private interpretations which she has wickedly devised.
jjpetkusiii 11 months ago
mark wrote his gospel, not gospels. I put an "s" at the end of gospel by mistake
Stinger4186 11 months ago
@Stinger4186
The Alexandrian cultists and popish toadies who oppose the King James Bible always align with the opinions of men rather than the text of the Holy Scriptures itself.
They also oppose the inspiration of Holy Bible, and usually substitute a revamped German Higher Criticism for believing the sound Biblical doctrine of Scriptural preservation verbatim by the LORD.
White-heads, devotees of James White, are among the shallowest sort of such pedants who hate the King James Bible
jjpetkusiii 11 months ago
KJB: Paul even states he has no written gospel. Gal1:11-12. The Church was begun by Jesus before the NT was ever written! I love the scriptures, but you people don't understand TIMELINES of when the early texts were written! This is important. For example, Peter left Antioch in 42AD & headed for Rome. Along the way, Mark accompanied him. Mark wrote his gospels from Peter's sermons in Rome. Where's this written? See yet? They're BISHOPS! Christ's ordained AUTHORITY! 2Cor10:8; Tit2:15
Stinger4186 11 months ago
@Stinger4186
Try reading something other than popish propaganda, swill from the gutter by atheist activists and their hack supporters, or the works of Calvinistic ideologues who substitute their own neo-Augustinian rhetoric for valid hermeneutic methodology. Neither any Vatican operative, nor partisan sectarian, nor you, nor any other opinionated eisegete has ever proven a linguistic or historical fact that refutes the verbal inerrancy of the King James Bible in English.
jjpetkusiii 11 months ago
@Stinger4186 1Timothy 3:2 A bishop then must be blameless (NOT pedophiles), THE HUSBAND OF ONE WIFE, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach; This verse dis-qualifies any Roman Catholic who CLAIMS the "title" of Bishop.
KingJamesBible 11 months ago
KJB: just curious.. How do YOU intepret the verse "be obedient to all he doctrines & TRADITIONS we tell you whether orally or by letter"..? How do "you" make that out? What ur version of exegesis on that? Got an answer? Gonna ignore that? Do you know whether ur exegesis is "correct" although another fundy mite intepret it another way? Hmm?
Stinger4186 11 months ago
@Stinger4186
As kaderoder wrote, "You silly catholics are fooled into worshipping and tricked into performing rituals that belong to very old Pagan cults. You then proclaim your gullibility by defending a device, of which you know very little. The Bible is very clear about the RCC. It is described by so many characteristics, that one would have to be hypnotised to ignore it."
When – if ever – did you come under the conviction that you are a lost sinner on your way to hell?
jjpetkusiii 11 months ago
from my other mesg, I meant to put the LAST verse in John's gospel. By the way, John was a Bishop. All of the apostles were. Paul was. Barnabus, Timothy & Titus. Phlemon was. Linus & Clement were Bishops. Where do you find Bishop again? 1Tim3; Tit1:7; 1Pt2:25; Acts (elders were Bishops).. It's all there hoss
Stinger4186 11 months ago
@Stinger4186
No, not at all.
"For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect" (1Corinthians 1:17).
“Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six” (Revelation 13:18).
Rome is the great whore that straddles the beast, and you are just another lost and blind dupe of the Vatican,
jjpetkusiii 11 months ago
KJB: A fundy is a funda"mentalist", or, someone who is outside The Church & doesn't actually "follow" the Bible. You cherry pick & ignore a lot of scripture. The parts you think you understand, you give "private" interp's of what "YOU" think it means.. Because you may think it means something, does not necessarily make it correct! Also, if Jesus did something, is that not "bible worthy"? Yet, not all He did got recorded. Ast verse of John. There's only ONE Church
Stinger4186 11 months ago
@Stinger4186
How does it feel to be a Biblical illiterate like you who is also a blatant historical ignoramus but posts vile and witless defamations against regenerated believers in the Lord Jesus Christ and even worse against the inerrant King James Bible, which is the Holy Scriptures, preserved by the LORD?
By the way, Rome, the Mother of Harlots and Abominations, abandoned the Douai long before it supported Hitler’s rise to power
jjpetkusiii 11 months ago
@Stinger4186 mentalists = a person who believes that the mind and its functions are a legitimate area of psychological research. Your definition of a mentalist does not match the dictionary (someone who is outside) AND you still have not sai what a "fundy" is. You are one messed up individual. What you should be concerned with is your soul. You are on your way to a devil's hell where all the popes are.
KingJamesBible 11 months ago
correction: Linus is from 2Tim4:21, not 1Tim4:21. He succeeded Peter as presiding Bishop of the Church. He was martyred by the Roman soldiers by being fed to the lions. Where's that in the Bible? It's not, yet it's still true. Not all that Jesus did got "written", scholar. Read the last verse of John. Unreal with you people. Ur a bunch of poor simpletons
Stinger4186 11 months ago
@Stinger4186
Those Vatican shills like you who cherish your misleading remarks and eisegeses may in fact prefer the works of Madame Helena Blavatsky, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Dean Koontz, Inigo de Loyola, Mao Tse Tung, and Josef Ratzinger, a. k. a. Pontifex Maximus Benedictus XVI.
For the English-speaking peoples, however, the King James Bible is the Holy Scriptures, preserved by the LORD and free of errors, omissions, and additions as an irrefutable matter of historical fact
jjpetkusiii 11 months ago
KJB: also, as I've posted before, all of the apostles, Paul, Timothy, Titus, Barnabus, Philemon, Linu (1Tim4:21) & Clement (Phil4:3) were Bishops of "The Church". Christ began THE CHURCH, & it is "tended" by the successor to Peter w/all AUTHORITY from Christ. This is Christ's holy Church. Ur a made-up assembly with "errant" exegesis, tho ur well-intended. There are many fools & ignorants in the world, even in Christian assemblies
Stinger4186 11 months ago
@Stinger4186
Show me one child who was molested by a paedophile popish Romanist "clergyman," and Pontifex Maximus Benedictus XVI, a former member of the Hitler Jugend, can easily give you the names of a thousand others. Josef Ratzinger, a.k.a. the pope of Rome, the great whore, personally protected a paedophile popish Romanist "clergyman" who sodomized 200 boys in Bavaria while he was moved from one parish to another.
When--if ever--were you convinced that you are a lost sinner bound for hell?
jjpetkusiii 11 months ago
KJB: The 55K assemblies I refer to are the fundy "assemblies" invented over the last few hundred yrs. You all interpret the Bible differently & hold no authority from Christ. You "think" you do is all. Even Jesus knows there are fools & ignorants out there. All of the NT was written by Bishops in The Church except Luke. He wasn't a Bishop. Also, you were never a Catholic. I don't believe you. Ur not even of "The Church". Ur fundy assembly isn't The Church of The Bible
Stinger4186 11 months ago
@Stinger4186 I've noticed several times you referred to me as a "fundie" I'm not sure what that is. Care to elaborate?
We do have fun(dy), at times though. Just because something is true and might even be associated with the church does not mean God wants in his canon of scripture. He'll put in there what HE wants and ONLY want he wants. The deaths of the apostles, for example, are NOT recorded.(save one) So what? God didn't thik it was worthy of "scripture" I suppose, you do, God doesn't
KingJamesBible 11 months ago
@Stinger4186
Your constipated views and oddball perceptions of myth as "fact," irrefutable historical fact as "myth," inchoate suspicions and irrational ranting as "logic," vulgarity as "proof," and patent sophistry as "reality" already qualify you as a long-term resident of "A Clockwork Orange."
Verbally inerrant in English as a matter of historical fact, on the other hand, the King James Bible is the Holy Scriptures, preserved by the LORD, in the lingua franca of our contemporary world.
jjpetkusiii 11 months ago
per my last comment, as Jesus was obedient to the Father. Jesus IS God! The word incarnate.. The pope is a Bishop (1Tim3; Tit1:7; 1Pt2:25; 1Tim5:17; Heb13:17; Acts -"elders"). The pope today is the 265th successor to the apostle Peter who tends the flock (Jn21:15-17; Mt16:17-19) & holds the Keys which are a symbol of AUTHORITY FROM GOD. He's a slave of Christ! THE CHURCH is Christ's Body on earth, but there's only ONE CHURCH, not 55K
Stinger4186 11 months ago
@Stinger4186 There are far more than 55K Catholic churches and many of them have scores of differences between them. The Church is HIS BODY (Col. 1:24), I am IN that body, like it or not. Belonging to a particular church (like any one of those 55K(?) makes NO difference. You're In Christ or you're not. When I got saved I got into that body (I was NOT in Christ's body as a catholic) because the catholic church does not teach Biblical salvation.
KingJamesBible 11 months ago
kjb: you don't even follow the bible. All of the writers of the NT except LUKE were BISHOPS OF THE CHURCH. I seriously doubt you were a Catholic. You don't know any better. The Church was instituted by CHRIST, & Jesus left Peter to tend the flock as presiding Bishop. Let me ask you this, my "erudite" scholar.. What do you know about St. Mark? What's his story? Do you know how he wrote his gospel, my exgete einstein? Tell me.. I gotta see this
Stinger4186 11 months ago
kjb: since ur so erudite, what does this mean: "BE OBEDIENT TO ALL THE DOCTRINES & TRADITIONS WE TELL YOU WHETHER ORALLY OR BY LETTER" 2Thes2:15... LIST EM ALL OUT. FIND EM IN THE BIBLE! I'm serious! FIND EM! What's 1Cor11:2 mean? What's 1Cor15:3? 1Cor11:23? 2Tim2:2? Come on einstein, tell me
Stinger4186 1 year ago
kjb: ur exegesis of 2Cor3:3 is not correct! The Holy Sp was SPEAKING THRough THEM in their AUTHORITY. The Bible wasn't OUT YET! How often do you need to be told this? Also, look it up! It's no secret! The timelines of the written codices aren't kept a secret! Look em up. Also, the word of God not written w/ink is Sacred Tradition. B4 the written word gets written , it's SPOKEN by God. But not all was recorded. What's 2Thes2:15?
Stinger4186 1 year ago
kjb: you keep quoting scripture, HOWEVER, Ur quoting the words of people who are ALREADY OF THE CHURCH! Everyone who is an author of a particular codex of the NT was a BISHOP of the Church. You simetons think they all had a bible in hand.. The 1st epistke was 50AD. The last was 59AD. The 1st written gosp was in 61AD. Unreal
Stinger4186 1 year ago
KJB: you claim I don't have a Bible? I have studied Theology & the Bible for the last 20 yrs AND I teach it.. LOL. Why do you think you keep getting slam-dunked all day, & twice on the weekends? You fundy simpletons can't go head to head with me. Ur the one who doesn't "know" the bible, nor Christian history, Maynerd
Stinger4186 1 year ago
@Stinger4186 No you do not have a Bible, you have a satanic perversion, ALL Catholic Bibles ARE perversions which contain PROVEN lies that can be proven in a court of law. You don't even know that the Epistles in 2 cor 3:2 ARE PEOPLE! You are a complete moron who doesn't qualify to teach daily vacation bible school, but then again you're lost and on your way to hell. In the churches I've attended you must be SAVED first and foremost BEFORE teaching anything "Bible"
KingJamesBible 1 year ago
KJB:
AGAIN, ALL OF THE APOSTLES, PAUL, TIMOTHY, TITUS, PHILEMON, LINUS, CLEMENT, JUDE, ETC --> WRITERS OF THE NT, WERE ALL BISHOPS OF THE CHURCH!!!
The only writer who wasnt a BISHOP was LUKE! HOW DID MARK RECEIVE HIS GOSPEL? DID GOD DROP IT FROM THE SKY? DID IT LAND ON HIS BREAKFAST TABLE? DID HE RECEIVE IT IN A DREAM?
Since you are the Bible scholar, exegete, "final word" appointed by Christ with The Keys (LOL!), tell me my biblical einstein w/ all unerring exegesis & hermeneutics!
Stinger4186 11 months ago
correction: Linus & Clement werent "writers" of the NT, the others were, but I meant to write BISHOPS. They were all Bishops of the Church. As God was obedient to the Father, He wasnts us to be obedient to his Church! Things dont "have" to be in the bible to be valid. Not all that Paul preached is in the Bible. Not all Jesus did is in the Bible. It's not recorded that Mark was Bishop of Alexandria and was martyred there by being dragged thru the streets behind horses! The CHURCH has AUTHORITY
Stinger4186 11 months ago
KJB: you dolts think the bible fell outta the sky dontcha? Why not google this: The Council of Rome (384); the Council of Hippo (393); he Council of Carthage (397 AD).. Google the gospel of Peter, Thomas, & Mary Magdalene. Google the Acts of St John. Google the Ascension of Isaiah.. Were it not for The Church, Maynerd, ur butt wouldn't even have a Bible, & yes, You ARE A liar & you don't know any better. Ur a simpleton. Period
Stinger4186 1 year ago
@Stinger4186 If you insist on calling me a liar, be prepared to prove that. I don't think you're lying... but you are decived by the satanic cult called catholism, of which I WAS a menber (growing up) and I got SAVED, as in S A V E D . I was an UNsaved Roman Catholic for 27 years and NOW a born again Bible believer for almost 25. I KNOW the difference and You, son. are as lost as a golf ball in high weeds. Now put up or shut up and also explain how YOU justify a Christ rejecting leader!!!!!!!
KingJamesBible 1 year ago
kjb: no, you friggin simpleton, they didn't have a BIBLE back then.. How many times does your dumbass need to be told this?! THe bible wasn't out at the time. It didn't come out until 419 AD, Maynerd.. The apostles & Paul preached the "spoken word" called Sacred Tradition. They didn so in their authority. How could Paul tell Gatians NOT to listen to other gospels in Gal 1:9? Whose authority? The authority GIVEN THEM BY GOD. There wasn't a bible back. Ur hilarious how much a simpleton you are
Stinger4186 1 year ago
KJB: biblically speaking, the epistles were written BEFORE The written gospels were.. WHY then, are they parked behind the gospels if they were written FIRST?? There's a $64000 question for ya! Do you know?
Stinger4186 1 year ago
@Stinger4186 Why is Job the FIRST book ever written (in the entire world) not listed first? We could ask questions like this all day long (and there are answers) but there's no point for YOU to dwell on this when 1) you're gong to hell 2) Your leader of your church is an avowed anti-Christ 3) Yuo don;t believe ANY Bible on this earth is the Word of God
KingJamesBible 1 year ago
KJB: What you wrote is totally incorrect, LOL! What does "THE WORD OF GOD NOT WRITTEN WITH INK" mean, einstein? (2Cor3:3) Also, "The TRADITION I rec'd from the Lord" -1Cor11:23; "That which I received (from God), I handed on to you". Read 1Cor 11:2; 2Tim2:2; "be obedient to the doctrines &TRADITIONS we 'tell' you whether orally or by letter" 2Thes2:15. What's this, SCHOLAR?
Stinger4186 1 year ago
also, I'm commenting. The pope never said Jesus isn't the Messiah. Ur assembly is full of a bunch of very simple people
Stinger4186 1 year ago
@Stinger4186 According to HIS WORDS in HIS WRITINGS (Not my opinion or yours for that matter) he claims Jesus Christ is not the Messiah. Why do you keep denying this Documented FACT! You're are as blind as a bat stumbling in backwards and you'll go to hell with the SAME DENIAL
KingJamesBible 1 year ago
when I write they had no written word, they had no GOSPEL, except that which was passed on by Paul & the apostles & other clergy whom they ordained. You simpletons think that they all had a bible in hand when there was no printing press, & any codex was strictly protected. You people never cease to amaze me by the lack of knowledge you have. You think in 21st century terms, not the 1st century AD. Ur not even THE CHURCH anyways!
Stinger4186 1 year ago
correction: had NO written word, per my last mesg.
Stinger4186 1 year ago
KJB: Question: do you enjoy getting slammed dunked all day? You have no leg to stand on. Even those of the bible at the time they preached the gospel had bo written word. It was Sacred Tradition, WHICH IS ALSO THE WORD OF GOD. THAT IS "HOW" THE WRITTEN WORD GOT WRITTEN IN THE 1st PLACE. BEFORE IT WAS WRITTEN, IT WAS SPOKEN BY GOD. SACRED TRADITION & SACRED SCRIPTURE ARE NOT MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE.. Ur not a biblical scholar. By no fault of ur own you don't KNOW any better
Stinger4186 1 year ago
@Stinger4186 I never said I was a Biblical scholar, I'm a student of the scriptures (Which I have in my hand) and you don't. You have a piece of satanic garbage which denies Jesus Christ (in may places) but no surprise since YOUR LEADER thinks (Papa Rat) Jesus Christ is not the Messiah oh humm
KingJamesBible 1 year ago
KJB:
Ur a student of the scriptures? Really? THE SCRIPTURES ACCORDING TO WHOSE EXEGESIS? IS IT UR PREACHER'S VERSION OF EXEGESIS & HERMENEUTICS OF THE BIBLE? WOW! SHOULD I BELIEVE HOW UR PREACHER INTERPRETS THE BIBLE VERSUS THE OTHER FUNDAMENTALIST PREACHER DOWN THE STREET FROM YOU THAT DOESNT INTERPRET THE BIBLE THE EXACT SAME WAY AS UR PREACHER?
You people even go against the BIble! The Bible says: "There's NO part of scripture that's for private interpretation" 2Pt1:20
Stinger4186 11 months ago
KJB: Really? Wow! I never knew the NT was "written" that early! No documentation of the gospel was OUT that early. Paul even says the gospel he preaches isn't written in Gal1:11-12. What does "..the WORD OF GOD NOT WRITTEN WITH INK" mean to you in2Cor3:3 mean my exegete scholar? Hmm? What's 2Tim2:2? Tit2:1? What's Tit1:7?
Stinger4186 1 year ago
@Stinger4186 The Bible does NOT say the Word of NOT written in ink in 2 cor. 3:3. This is your problem. You don't have a Bible so you're screwed up and on top of that you're going to hell. You need to get saved and get yourself a real Bible and not that flap-jack piece of satanic garbage you're been told is a bible.
KingJamesBible 1 year ago
@KingJamesBible Context is the difference
2Co 3:2 Ye (that's PEOPLE) are our epistle written in our hearts, known and read of all men:
2Co 3:3 Forasmuch as ye (PEOPLE not WORDS.. IDIOT) are manifestly declared to be the epistle of Christ ministered by us, written not with ink, but with the Spirit of the living God; not in tables of stone, but in fleshy tables of the heart.
Nothing whatsoever to do with the written Word of God... you stupid BLIND idiot!
KingJamesBible 1 year ago
KJB: Do you know who Tychicus is of Eph6:21? Guess what? He was a BISHOP who was ordained by St. Andrew the apostle & he was the bishop of Chalcedon.. Hmm. Where do you find that in the bible? Maybe that's WHY ur assembly isn't THE CHURCH b/c you exegete "scholars" who are about as sharp as a bowling ball don't know any better..
Stinger4186 1 year ago
@Stinger4186 And what does this have to do with the price of tea in china?? Why be concerned about Tychicus when Pope Rat claims Jeuss Christ is not the messiah according to HIS WORDS in HIS BOOK. Not MY opinion or what you claim is a "liberal media blah blah blah" No comment? tsk tsk. I understand why, I would refuse to comment on this too if I looked to theis man as a "leader" of my church and he made comments like that.
KingJamesBible 1 year ago
KJB: Ur IQ couldn't fill a thimble. Hey Maynerd, have you ever wikpedia-ed Timothy, Titus, Barnabus, Philemon etc including all the apostles & Paul? Do that w/each of em.. Guess what u'll find, Maynerd? --> they were all BISHOPS in the Church. It's no secret. You simpletons try to change history as if they weren't. You sad morons don't know any better. Read 2Pet1:20, 3:16 & 1Tim3:15
Stinger4186 1 year ago
@Stinger4186 Thus saith wikpedia? Not thank you, not that it's ALL wrong but there are sufficient reasons (for those who KNOW BETTER) not to "trust" wikpedia, no surprise YOU would reference it. What I want to know is how you justify your leader Claiming Jesus Christ is NOT the Messiah, referenced in the DOCUMENTED video you claim you have not watched (but I suspect you did)
KingJamesBible 1 year ago
KJB:
That's ok, Maynerd. It doesnt matter if you look at wikipedia or not. You can stay in ur little fantasy world with all ur made-up private interps of the Bible with no authority from Jesus to do so. I know ur well intentioned, but u simpletons lack a scholarly look at history & the early Church. U all think the Bible dropped outta the sky. It was the Church in the 1st place that compiled the chosen books. Hey Maynerd, how come the gospels of Peter, Thomas, Mary Magdalene didnt get included?
Stinger4186 1 year ago
@Stinger4186 so, NOT looking to wickedpedia means you're living in a fantasy world? (cukoo cukoo fruitcake alert here) Are you a zionist? Have stock in the website? What kind of idiotic statement is that? There is a 1peter and a 2Peter in my Bible. Thomas and mary Magdalene are NOT inspired so not included
KingJamesBible 1 year ago
KJB: My point is, even wickipedia is an online encyclopedia. It's not "biased".
Also, Consider this: I ask you a question like, "Do you follow the Bible?" You respond yes. Then I ask you why then do you overlook much of the BIble? This is WHY i responded to you before that you dont even "follow" the Bible! You only "cherry pick" verses like every other protestant assembly outside of the Church, AND you give errant "private" exegesis of the Bible. You mean well, but ur exegesis is way off
Stinger4186 1 year ago
@Stinger4186 you mean it's not SUPPOSED to be biased, it is (in many places) and with so many other resources available it becomes a non-resource.
KingJamesBible 1 year ago
@KJB:
Have you ever read Jesus' words in Mt 23:31-37? Read verse 37 several times.. Also, Lk 11:42-52
Whoredoms, fornications, scarlets, purples, gold, jewels, incense, chariots, fine linens, wax, fine wood plagues (Ez14) etc etc can ALL be found in the OT re: JERUSALEM. In fact, 1/3 of the OT os God's displeasure of Jerusalem. Start with Ex 24 onward. Go to 1&2 Kings, Ezek, Isa, Jeremiah, Amos & u'll see that all of this is re: JERUSALEM. That place was a cesspool of wickedness
Stinger4186 1 year ago
correction:
Exodus 26 onward
"Come out of her" is Isaiah 52 re: JERUSALEM
Stinger4186 1 year ago
KJB:
There's NO WAY that the pope would make that claim! He is PETER'S SUCCESSOR AS THE PRESIDING BISHOP OF THE CHURCH! THE CHURCH CANNOT GIVE A FALSE DOGMA! I havent seen ur video, but it's either tampered with by someone dubbing their voice over the pontiff's! The pope is a BISHOP & the 264th successor to the apostle. All Bishops in the Church are successors to the apostles
How do you interpret Jn21:15-17? Mt16:17-19? 1Tim3? 1Pt2:25? Tit1:7? Jn15:16? 1Tim5:17? Heb13:17? 1
Stinger4186 1 year ago
@Stinger4186 No way he would make such a claim?? Well, he did and I provided the documented evidence and am asking YOU to comment. NOT seeing the video will make that impossible... so WATCH the video.... sigh.... Being brought up Catholic I know all about what the cat church teaches and not just from my study AS a Christian but from personal experience BEING a Catholic. Thank God many of my Catholic friends / relatives got saved... your turn
KingJamesBible 1 year ago
KJB:
Thers is NO WAY you were ever a Catholic! There's no other CHURCH. You belong to an assembly outside THE CHURCH, & I seriously doubt that the pope, the successor to the apostle Peter & slave of Christ, would EVER claim Jesus isnt the Messiah. I simply dont believe it, & Im not going to watch your Romper Room video that was probably made by the liberal media. You're about as much a Catholic as hitler was a rabbi. You're intelligience couldnt fill a thimple. I babysit you in here, Maynerd
Stinger4186 1 year ago
@Stinger4186 Name calling is one thing, now you're calling me a Liar!. Your treading in deep water now...
You say "PROBABLY made by.." when you DON'T KNOW, You doing a good job showing yourself to me the moron you are. You're like a monkey with his fingers in his ears refusing to see any evidence that shatters his cherished delusions.
KingJamesBible 1 year ago
KJB:
Got saved? There's no other Church, Maynerd. You're a Baptist? Look up John Smyth. He "invented" that assembly in the 1600s. He originally was from England then moved to Amsterdam. He had a "following" based on his charisma & "private" interpretive analysis of the Bible, a book compiled by THE CHURCH in the 1st place.. You poor souls are a bunch of simpletons. You mean well, but you're sharp as a bowling ball. You have no "authority" given to you by GOD. That authority is THE CHURCH
Stinger4186 1 year ago
@Stinger4186 Getting saved is so easy a child can do it. Getting saved is NOT dependent on what some "church claims" but what God says (The Bible) The Bible says that God has exalted HIS WORD above is his OWN NAME so nothing is more important than that, including the Church or should I say.. what YOU CALL "the church" I've been saved for 25 years, not you or any pope can do anything about that. sorry, I am not only saved but I'm seated (right now) in heavenly places with him.
KingJamesBible 1 year ago
KJB: Let's see just WHAT Jesus says about THE CHURCH: "HE WHO DOES NOT 'HEAR' THE CHURCH LET HIM BE AS A 'HEATHEN' & A PUBLICAN" -Mt18:17-18
All infallible truth, Maynerd, COMES THRU THE ONE CHURCH! Again, if something's NOT in the bIble to placate you, it DOESNT MATTER! The word of God comes in TWO WAYS: The SPOKEN WORD & THE WRITTEN WORD. Before the WRITTEN word was put into WRITING, Maynerd, GOD HAD TO SPEAK IT first! But, NOT ALL of God's word got WRITTEN! 2Cor3:3; Gal1:11-12; Isa55:11
Stinger4186 1 year ago
cont'd:
Maynerd, the "spoken word" Paul referred to as PARATHISOS in Greek.
"The tradition I rec'd from the Lord" 1Cor11:23
"That which I rec'd I handed on to you" 1Cor15:3
"The word of God NOT written with INK" 2Cor3:3
"The gospel I preach has not been given by any MAN, but a revelation of Jesus Christ Gal1:11-12 ("written" that is; the written gosp wasnt out YET, Maynerd!)
"Be obedient to all the doctrines & TRADITIONS we tell u whether orally or by letter". Again, the "spoken" word
Stinger4186 1 year ago
KJB:
Again, "Parathisos" means "Tradition". (Note: THIS IS NOT THE SAME AS HUMAN TRADITIONS FOR THE ZILLIONTH TIME!) --> Sacred Tradition, "Parathisos" is the "spoken word of God that the apostles had when they went out evangelizing & growing THE CHURCH. They HAD no Bible back then! They were the 1st BISHOPS. The Church came BEFORE the NT, not AFTER! The hagiographers of the NT already were Bishops "OF" THE CHURCH overseen by Peter. Linus succeeded Peter as presiding Bishop. Clement was pope #4
Stinger4186 1 year ago
PS:
I saw ur video. The pope never said Jesus isnt the messiah
Stinger4186 1 year ago
@Stinger4186 The Written Word is the FINAL Word, no longer do we need to rely on the spoken Word since the canon is NOW (Got that) NOW COMPLETE. Now, you either stop talking down to me or you get banned. First, last and final warning. I am tired of weeding though your insults in trying to figure out what you are saying. Maynerd, simpleton and other assorted UNNECESSARY "digs" will result in a ban. got that? ok
KingJamesBible 1 year ago
KJB: No it's not. Jesus never said that in the NT, and it's not written as such in the Old Testament. See? This is what I mean. You ignorant fundies dont KNOW any better. Jesus continues to speak today through His Church. What's bound on earth is bound in heaven. Jesus said to His apostles before they even had a BIBLE, "He who does not HEAR the CHurch, let him be as a heathen & a publican." The CHURCH came before the NT was written, not after, & those that wrote it were "OF" The Church! BIshops!
Stinger4186 1 year ago
Also, Maynerd, there was NO compiled BIble for 400 yrs after Christ! The Bible isnt the "authority" insofar as it's NO ONE'S authority but the CHurch to give the exegesis of the scriptures! NOT ur assembly that is OUTSIDE THE CHURCH! See yet? Jesus gave your assembly NO Authority. Ur assemb.y was invented c. 1600 by John Smyth in Amsterdam! Jesus gave Authority to His Church in c. 33AD, my simpleness. That's Mt16:17-19; 2Cor10:8; Heb13:17; 1Pt5:1-5; Mt18:17-18
YOU DONT KNOW THE BIBLE!
Stinger4186 1 year ago
@Stinger4186 Incorrect, Peter said we have a MORE SURE WORD and that was a reference to the WRITTEN Word in CONTRAST to actually HEARING form God personally. Peter spent time with Jesus Christ (like all the apostles) and heard DIRECTLY from him (can't get any better than that!!) so any "verbal" word is TRUMPTED by the WRITTEN Word. The book of revelations is the OBVIOUS "CONCLUSION" so NO other additional "canon" exists and that includes "claims" which ALL the cults like to "claim" "they" have
KingJamesBible 1 year ago
correction: a THIMBLE
Stinger4186 1 year ago
KJB: why not go to zenit.com, Maynerd. You can see the daily dossiers coming each day from the Vatican. It's free. U'll see the words of bishop pope Benedikt. He speaks the words of Christ. Hey Maynerd, again ur trailer park assembly is NOT the Church of the Bible. You poor simpletons "think" it is.. Ur wrong. You don't know any better, 135 IQ! LOL
Stinger4186 1 year ago
@Stinger4186 Did you watch the video evidence? Documented PROOF that papa RAT is an Anti-Christ? What kind of a "good Catholic" are you? Not to spend 7 minutes watching it so that you could intelligently tell me HOW it's wrong, fake, etc. Missing the intelligence to do so? Yep, thought so. You've spent more than 7 minutes calling be derogatory names. (Typical of those with nothing to say and not very bright)
KingJamesBible 1 year ago
kjb: ur like a little girl.. Benedikt is a slave of Jesus Christ. You go about this mantra that the pope is the anti-Christ. I seriously doubt ur IQ is 135. LOL. Yeah, & I'm the easter bunny if ur IQ is that high.. The pope is a BISHOP, he holds The Keys, & he is Peter- successor. Don't like it? Doesn't matter
Stinger4186 1 year ago
@Stinger4186 Slave yes, of Satan since he says Jesus Christ is "Not necessarily the Messiah" HIS WORDS, not mine. Watch the Proof and stop being such a weasel.
KingJamesBible 1 year ago
KJB: the pope is NONE of the things you wrote in