I think the concept is interesting. What I think is going to be surprising is if he can make it perform as well as a standard silencer. That means 30DB on the current market. The design shown looks like it adds 4.5" at most past the crown. They say it will take a 2.25" flash hider. That means 2.9" of baffle space is supposed to provide 30DB of reduction. From that perspective the design looks most like a BR TUOTE suppressor and those do 18-24DB. "DB Depends of FH" seems convenient.
Cheap doesnt mean loud. Cheap comes down to quantity and manufacturing. Most materials used in average-performance cans are not expensive, what makes them expensive is that its a niche market.
As Eric said, its sheetmetal with only two machined parts. Those machined parts are the muzzle adapter and the mount in the tube, neither of which is overly complex.
Considering their parent company specializes in sheetmetal, I doubt it will be hard to come up with a quality solution.
@phreakish1 Ok, so a cheap, simple, short, inefficient silencer from a company not experienced in making silencers and it's going to also compete in sound performance with $1000 designs by experienced companies? That is absurd.
@phreakish1 You completely missed the point on it being "short". He FUCKING SAID IT WASN'T EFFICIENT. Got it? So if it is in the same ballpark size as others, and it ISN'T EFFICIENT, then it will not be quiet. Good lord you are a moron. Yes, that is a personal attack. deal with it. And no, Vltor is not experienced with silencers.
@phreakish1 lol,not much difference between expensive and cheap Silencers if you open them up but what materials are used are the most important.The idea of the over the barrel,is to get the air to travel rearward,it would also need expansion holes on the rear to release the pressure or release the air after the blaster.There nt too effective and yes they are the size of a average can but I would bet ant any money that a average cans lengh coming straight from the thread is more quieter.
Its not 3/4 the way in, its barely 1/3 the way in. Also, the area around the barrel still gives expansion volume. The reason for having it mount OVER the barrel, is to reduce the added length, while still offering more volume. Also, since the can doesnt rely completely on the muzzle threads for alignment, it should stay better centered to the barrel.
@phreakish1 Your right there but it will still effect the Silencer as there is no expansion holes or any thing for the air to escape.A lot of these sell where I am in the UK but they are always longer and make up the lengh of a normal silencer,when they are effective,so pretty pointless but yes,it is better then nothing and if this sells for say $30-40 bucks,its worth a go.
LOL no i was talking about the silencer how will it silence as well since it loses 3/4 its length going over the barrel i was not talking about the flash suppressor...
what would that prove? i know how a suppressor works all the gasses that come out expand into pockets inside the silencer so the sound of the explosion is reduced i just wanted to know how having so much of the silencers space taken up buy the barrel being inside of it how it would as effectively as a normal silencer where it attaches to the end of the barrel with more room for the gasses to expand that was my only point
@BigSean1992 Basicly,it delays the air but the hole idea is to have the rear vented so by the time the air bounces off the baffles and returns down the silencer and outer Barrel,the Bullet would be gone and so there for the full blast would not be heard (it would be delayed) and in this time it would cool down and be quieter.These can be effective but no where as near as a normal fitted one,unless it returned down the barrel further and it was vented.It will hide most of the flash.
@BigSean1992 I was looking at how far it went in too and I would say (keep away) as its based on the looks type of design rather then the multi baffled type which has always been the most effective type.This works more like a stripper and I recon it has 1,may be 2 baffles max,which is simply no good,while better then nothing,you could (if its cheap enough) add your own baffles???Now theres a Idea,I would think twice about fitting this to any thing big caliber as the metal may not last to long.
This piece of junk is still vaporware. Just goes to show you, don't get a stiffy over anything at Shot until things are shipping.
justinwbohner 1 week ago
the silencer is okay.
SuperRip7 4 months ago
that is really sick
rileyma100 9 months ago
2:11 - Butt Scratch!
13098519 1 year ago
looks nice but I'd like to hear it at the range! Any chance of the 2nd video ?
AusJackal 1 year ago
@AusJackal
We are all big fans of VLTOR, so we will do more vids, we just haven't seen any of these at the range yet
GunWebsites 1 year ago
@GunWebsites Thanks for the reply guys. I am looking forward to the range videos.
AusJackal 1 year ago
The ARFCOM AAC fanbois can suck my cock. Don't read any threads posted on ARFCOM full retard.
LVhatersofh8rs 1 year ago
I think the concept is interesting. What I think is going to be surprising is if he can make it perform as well as a standard silencer. That means 30DB on the current market. The design shown looks like it adds 4.5" at most past the crown. They say it will take a 2.25" flash hider. That means 2.9" of baffle space is supposed to provide 30DB of reduction. From that perspective the design looks most like a BR TUOTE suppressor and those do 18-24DB. "DB Depends of FH" seems convenient.
manoftin2 1 year ago
Good luck. I can't wait to hear one. I am using Phantom flash hiders. AAC products are horribly expensive.
556suppressor 2 years ago
It won't be very quiet, but it is an interesting concept.
fastguy45 2 years ago
we'll see
GunWebsites 2 years ago
Wow, you can test a suppressor by ear that has never been fired?
phreakish1 1 year ago
@phreakish1 Sure can! He said it would be "cheap and simple" and "not the highest efficiency". We already have one - the Tac 65. It is not quiet.
fastguy45 1 year ago
Cheap doesnt mean loud. Cheap comes down to quantity and manufacturing. Most materials used in average-performance cans are not expensive, what makes them expensive is that its a niche market.
As Eric said, its sheetmetal with only two machined parts. Those machined parts are the muzzle adapter and the mount in the tube, neither of which is overly complex.
Considering their parent company specializes in sheetmetal, I doubt it will be hard to come up with a quality solution.
phreakish1 1 year ago 2
@phreakish1 Ok, so a cheap, simple, short, inefficient silencer from a company not experienced in making silencers and it's going to also compete in sound performance with $1000 designs by experienced companies? That is absurd.
fastguy45 1 year ago
Simple, yes, most suppressors are actually simple.
Short? its in the same ballpark as most .223 cans at just over 8". Many other designs of this length also return over the barrel.
Not experienced? You obviously dont know much about the companie(s).
Absurd? not in the least, time will tell.
phreakish1 1 year ago 4
@phreakish1 You completely missed the point on it being "short". He FUCKING SAID IT WASN'T EFFICIENT. Got it? So if it is in the same ballpark size as others, and it ISN'T EFFICIENT, then it will not be quiet. Good lord you are a moron. Yes, that is a personal attack. deal with it. And no, Vltor is not experienced with silencers.
fastguy45 1 year ago
He said (meant) no claims of max efficiency. You're way off base. Way, way off base.
You obviously (once again) have little knowledge of the companie(s).
Let me guess, you spent way too much on an over rated can and are a bit butt hurt right now, right?
Either way, you lose. G'nite.
phreakish1 1 year ago 5
@phreakish1 lol,not much difference between expensive and cheap Silencers if you open them up but what materials are used are the most important.The idea of the over the barrel,is to get the air to travel rearward,it would also need expansion holes on the rear to release the pressure or release the air after the blaster.There nt too effective and yes they are the size of a average can but I would bet ant any money that a average cans lengh coming straight from the thread is more quieter.
whosthedaddy11 1 year ago
@whosthedaddy11 You obviously have no idea how suppressors work.
phreakish1 1 year ago
LMAO, "always stays tight" xD
god, sorry... i was just really aroused when i saw this vid and that made me LOL so hard xD great vid 5/5 lolz :')
MadamKouassi 2 years ago
Are you 12?
CRL49 1 year ago
@CRL49 Actually, I'm 15. :D
Don't give me that "Don't joke around when talking about guns" bullshit :P
I really don't give a toss, I have a gun, I was horny when I saw this vid, what he said made me LOL. So just leave it at that, good sir. :)
MadamKouassi 1 year ago
Figured as much.
CRL49 1 year ago
Its not 3/4 the way in, its barely 1/3 the way in. Also, the area around the barrel still gives expansion volume. The reason for having it mount OVER the barrel, is to reduce the added length, while still offering more volume. Also, since the can doesnt rely completely on the muzzle threads for alignment, it should stay better centered to the barrel.
phreakish1 2 years ago
@ phreakish1
well said, thanks
GunWebsites 2 years ago
@phreakish1 Your right there but it will still effect the Silencer as there is no expansion holes or any thing for the air to escape.A lot of these sell where I am in the UK but they are always longer and make up the lengh of a normal silencer,when they are effective,so pretty pointless but yes,it is better then nothing and if this sells for say $30-40 bucks,its worth a go.
whosthedaddy11 1 year ago
@whosthedaddy11 You obviously have no experience with suppressors, or their purchase. Fail x2
phreakish1 1 year ago
How does that work??? The flash suppresor is like 3/4 thru the silencer don't see how that works well
BigSean1992 2 years ago
Well you're obviously retarded.
allusernamestaken12 2 years ago
why am i retarded can you please explain how it works if your IQ is so damn high
BigSean1992 2 years ago
It's going to function whether you see it or not, read a book or something.
allusernamestaken12 2 years ago
LOL no i was talking about the silencer how will it silence as well since it loses 3/4 its length going over the barrel i was not talking about the flash suppressor...
BigSean1992 2 years ago
Go look for a video with a 50 cal suppressor
allusernamestaken12 2 years ago
what would that prove? i know how a suppressor works all the gasses that come out expand into pockets inside the silencer so the sound of the explosion is reduced i just wanted to know how having so much of the silencers space taken up buy the barrel being inside of it how it would as effectively as a normal silencer where it attaches to the end of the barrel with more room for the gasses to expand that was my only point
BigSean1992 2 years ago
@ BigSean1992
The suppressor does not need to be all in front of the barrel, many of the large caliber types go way back behind the muzzle.
It's all about volume, not placement in relation to the muzzle
GunWebsites 2 years ago
@BigSean1992 Basicly,it delays the air but the hole idea is to have the rear vented so by the time the air bounces off the baffles and returns down the silencer and outer Barrel,the Bullet would be gone and so there for the full blast would not be heard (it would be delayed) and in this time it would cool down and be quieter.These can be effective but no where as near as a normal fitted one,unless it returned down the barrel further and it was vented.It will hide most of the flash.
whosthedaddy11 1 year ago
@BigSean1992 I was looking at how far it went in too and I would say (keep away) as its based on the looks type of design rather then the multi baffled type which has always been the most effective type.This works more like a stripper and I recon it has 1,may be 2 baffles max,which is simply no good,while better then nothing,you could (if its cheap enough) add your own baffles???Now theres a Idea,I would think twice about fitting this to any thing big caliber as the metal may not last to long.
whosthedaddy11 1 year ago
whats inside suppressors?
saj12100 2 years ago
baffles
jimbo45cal 2 years ago
Baffles.
ketel1 2 years ago
Magic... and gun monkies.
phreakish1 1 year ago
how much $ ?
ealnav 2 years ago
@ ealnav
no specific price yet
GunWebsites 2 years ago
woooo hoooo
shitpickle1128 2 years ago
wow a average joe suppressor its about time way to go vltor.
fatdan172501 2 years ago 3
★★★★★
MadBadVoodo 2 years ago
Bloke suppressor, lol i like that =D
JaySkuh 2 years ago
VOLKS-suppressor. Deaf much?
phreakish1 1 year ago
In the video hes calling it the bloke suppressor as a...Kinda sell name cause its cheap and anyman can own one...
JaySkuh 1 year ago
Trust me, he says 'VOLKS-suppressor', hence the VS-1, if it was 'bloke' it would be BS-1 which wouldnt sell very well :P
'VOLKS' as in 'volkswagon' means 'the people', hence a can for the everyman.
phreakish1 1 year ago
Lawl, BS one, rewatched video and your right =D
JaySkuh 1 year ago
I know :D
Patiently awaiting test results from VLTOR and a release date now..
phreakish1 1 year ago
good video keep up the good work
360steven 2 years ago
pretty sweet!
TacticalGearReview 2 years ago